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Consider OTHER NEWS GROUPS: Living (all the time) in the outdoors: rec.outdoors.marketplace (for ads) misc.rural rec.foods.preserving alt.lifestyle.barefoot alt.lifestyle.log-cabin.home alt.culture.beaches rec.outdoors.national-parks rec.photo.* specifically rec.photo.technique.nature nl.wandel (Holland) de.rec.reisen.camping it.sport.montagna (Italian) es.rec.deportes.aventura (Spanish) Skiing: (X-C or downhill) check rec.skiing.* [alpine|nordic|snowboarding|announce|backcountry| etc.] rec.skiing (our old parent) went away June 1994. Also firstname.lastname@example.org (now gatewayed to rec.skiing.nordic). Climbing: rec.climbing alt.lycra uk.rec.climbing (UK only) de.rec.alpinismus (German) Windsurfing: check rec.boats, rec.boats.paddle, rec.windsurfing Whitewater: rec.boats.paddle # Charles Daffinger, Indiana U. (deceased) References to whitewater are now in rec.boats.paddle Fishing alt.fishing alt.archery rec.outdoors.fishing rec.outdoors.fishing.fly rec.boats Surfing alt.surfing Hunting: rec.hunting (moderated) alt.archery if weapons related: rec.guns else if political talk.politics.guns talk.politics.animals if professional: sci.military alt.war.* Hang gliding rec.aviation.hang-gliding rec.aviation.[soaring|misc|ultralight|questions] http://cougar.stanford.edu:7878/HGMPSHomePage.html Mtn biking: rec.bicycles.off-road rec.bicycles.marketplace rec.bicycles.misc rec.bicycles.racing rec.bicycles.rides rec.bicycles.soc rec.bicycles.tech email@example.com http://cyclery.com http://cycling.org The international mountain biking list: firstname.lastname@example.org send a message to email@example.com SUBSCRIBE mtb END in the body of the message. Soon, a new newsgroup--rec.bicycles.offroad--is anticipated. Environmental issues of the outdoors sci.environment,ca.environment,talk.environment, etc. alt.save.the.earth,alt.destroy.the.earth INTERNET mailing list firstname.lastname@example.org - scholarly studies of environmental science Rescue: misc.emerg-services sci.med.emergency misc.survivalism rec.pets.dogs.rescue email@example.com Orienteering: rec.sport.orientteering mailing list: firstname.lastname@example.org email@example.com http://www2.aos.princeton.edu/rdslater/orienteering/orienteering.html Scouting: rec.scouting.*, Scouting references over there. Naturism/Nudist: rec.nude Non-rec interest groups sci.geo.fluids sci.geo.geology sci.geo.meteorology <URL:http://www.ucar.edu/dss/faq/weather-data.html> sci.bio sci.geo.satellite-nav bionet.* (professional biology) General foreign travel: uk.rec.walking de.*, sub.*: German newsgroups fj.rec.travel: requires 16-bit Kanji terms soc.culture.spain: nice history of dual (2 column) translation soc.culture.mexican: 8^) soc.culture.france: francais soc.culture.nepal: soc.culture.nordic: soc.culture.pakistan: soc.culture.tibet: ... you get the idea. aus.bushwalking: for down under rec.travel.* rec.travel.budget.backpack check the mailing list: firstname.lastname@example.org with message body: subscribe green-travel Not so "foreign" travel alt.culture.alaska Birding: rec.birds BIRDCHAT-REQUEST@ARIZVM1.BITNET Lyme Disease: LymeNet-L listserv group Subscriptions: Send a memo to listserv@Lehigh.EDU in the body write subscribe LymeNet-L <Your Real Name> AT (Appalachian Trail): email@example.com (that's at-L) with the word Subscribe in the body of the message PCT (Pacific Crest Trail): firstname.lastname@example.org (that's pct-L) with the word Subscribe in the body of the message Misc: rec.answers sci.med sci.med.orthopedics rec.knives: FAQ www.sff.net/people/pff/knife.html alt.mining.recreational ... etc. Mailing lists Outward Bound (the non-profit) http://www.outwardbound.org/ email@example.com with message body: subscribe outward_bound _your_email_address_ BACKPACK-L LISTSERVER@switchback.com with message body: SUBSCRIBE BACKPACK-L yourfirstname yourlastname %A Steven K. Roberts %Z firstname.lastname@example.org %T Computing Across America %O email@example.com http://microship.com Round-The-World Travel Guide An extensive compilation of tips from travellers, focusing on long-term budget travel, and is also useful for short-term and business travel. It covers nearly every aspect, from things to consider before leaving, to budgeting, planning, routes, duration of trip, modes of transportation including airline ticketing, accomodations, financial strategies, health issues, visas, travel insurance, and much more. It has references to both online and printed resources, with hypertext links in the HTML version. An archive site has also been created for journals from RTW trips. http://www.solutions.net/rec-travel/rtw/html/faq.html. While each of these pages was initially checked, there is no guarantee of long-term availability. Report problems for removal from the list. WWW pages (URL): http://mcmcweb.er.usgs.gov/drg/free_drg.html http://info.er.usgs.gov/doi/avads/announcements/index.html http://www.flash.net/~bhphiker/BHP/ http://www.ucc.ie/info/net/acronyms/acro.html http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/srss.html http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/Climbing/index.html http://pulsar.cs.wku.edu/~beeler/climbing.html http://www.eeb.ele.tue.nl/climbing/index.html http://www.eeb.ele.tue.nl/climbing/areas/uk/UK.html http://www.cage.curtin.edu.au/~climbing http://www.abalon.se/beach/aw/abbey.html http://www.gorp.com http://iquest.com/~nss http://www.fs.fed.us/whatsnew.htm http://www.gorp.com/atbook.htm #Adventurous Traveler Bookstore http://www.teleport.com/~walking/mcm.htm http://vm.cfsan.fda.gov/~mow/preface.html # giadria http://www.couloir-mag.com http://gdcinfo.agg.emr.ca/geomag/e_cgrf.html http://www.medfacts.com http://www.lcv.org http://www.hostels.com/ http://www.iyhf.org/ http://www.dejanews.com http://www.ipl.org/reading/books/ti.W.html http://chat.earthweb.com gopher://gopher.vt.edu:10010/02/149/5 ftp://darkstar.cygnus.com/pub/backcountry/fuel.names.txt http://www.chara.gsu.edu/sat.html http://www2.plasma.mpe-garching.mpg.de/sat/vsohp/brite.html http://www.census.gov/cgi-bin/gazetteer http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/seg/gmag/fldsnth1.pl http://rs560.cl.msu.edu/weather/interactive.html http://www.ucar.edu/WeatherInfo.html http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/srss.html http://www.mit.edu:8001/usa.html http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/seg/gmag/fldsnth1.pl # mag dec. http://thunder.atms.purdue.edu/index.html http://www.nps.gov # US National Park Service http://www.fws.gov/ # US Fish and Wildlife Service http://snow.water.ca.gov http://www.nohrsc.nws.gov/latest.html http://www.entertain.com/cmc/ http://www.cmc.org/cmc/ http://syzygy.math.ufl.edu/~sfm/ACL/acl.html http://www.tbc.gov.bc.ca/ http://www.inch.com/~dipper/highpoints.html http://www.oslonett.no/home/mariusbe/e-index.html http://www.desertgold.com http://WWW.LLBEAN.COM http://www.sweet-h2o.com/sweetwater http://www.monolake.org/ http://members.aol.com/hikenet/ http://trailplace.com/cgi-bin/htmlscript?category_bibliography.hts The URL for the Trailplace AT Bibliography is http://www.earthsketch.com/country.php?country=IRN # Ireland country Profile Abbey Web page: http://www.abalon.se/beach/aw/abbey.html http://www.magick.net/~siskiyou/ http://www.plix.com/~users/ab7iz/lookout/links.htm Caving: Send all submissions to firstname.lastname@example.org Send all subscribe/unsubscribe requests to email@example.com Visit the website at http://www.caversdigest.com/ alt.caving Comments about alt.caving from panel 1 From Panel 1: The formation of a usenet group on caving has long been a subject of controversy. Most cavers that live in the US and Australia prefer that caving remain "low profile", while cavers in Europe prefer a "high profile" approach. Much of this has to do with the type of caves and caving that occur in these regions, and the differences in conservation ethics. There are different types of resource management for different types of cave systems. Due to the often extensive destruction of cave resources that seems to occur in the US after a cave location has been made public, it was decided by the international caving community to keep electronic caving within a moderated mailing list (see below). This ensured that caves suffer minimal destruction, while still allowing caving information to be distributed on a world wide basis. This also made certain that information could reach the maximum number of individuals (e-mail is MUCH more extensive and reliable than usenet access). Alt.caving was formed in spite of opposition from the caving community. It was not formed by anyone associated with caves OR caving. The person that formed this group was actually interested in hollow-earth phenomenon, tombs, etc. Because the person forming this group also botched the formation process, it it NOT carried by many systems. This means that distribution is EXTREMELY limited and most people are unable to see or respond to this newsgroup. So what does all of the above mean? 1) Most of the experienced cavers CAN'T see or respond to the questions on alt.caving. Their news feeds don't carry it. It is unlikely that you will receive responses to your posts. 2) Because it was formed IN SPITE OF the cavers opposition, and because the group is unmoderated, the VERY few cavers that can see alt.caving are unwilling to give information out. They expect the person that is truly interested in caving to join the cavers mailing list, like everyone else. Again, because the mailing list is carried via e-mail, the maximum number of people can get it, and respond to it. Also remember, the cavers are only trying to protect the caves. Once a cave is destroyed, it is PERMANENT. 3) Because it lacks the support of the caving community, the information posted on alt.caving is suspicious, at the very best. The majority of people posting to the group are individuals with limited experience. (The more experienced cavers know about the mailing list and post there). Because most of the people posting to alt.caving ARE of limited experience, the information has a higher probability of being wrong, or only good for a certain type of cave. 4) The cavers are NOT trying to keep you from caving. Most cavers realize that it is impossible to learn caving from an electronic forum. There will be too many holes in the information provided. NOTHING can equal training. If the cavers are reluctant to give out information, it is because they are trying to ensure that you seek out and receive training from an instructor that knows what they are doing. Both rec.backcountry and rec.climbing are monitored by cavers. They will provide you with resources for training IF you ask for it. YOU CAN GET KILLED WHILE CAVING, especially if you don't know what you are doing! Of course, all individuals that are truly interested in caving are invited to join the cavers mailing list. See below for details. - Cindy Heazlit, NSS 22980F Any comments on the above should be directed to: firstname.lastname@example.org Please put put alt.caving in the subject line. Caving: Send all submissions to email@example.com Send all subscribe/unsubscribe requests to firstname.lastname@example.org Visit the website at http://www.caversdigest.com/ In the UK: uk.rec.caving ======================================================== And if your activity ISN'T mentioned, may we say nasty little things about it until you give us references. 8^) SPECIAL NOTE: DO NOT ASK OR ACCEPT MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE from the net. Do not ask in r.b, consider sci.med or misc.legal. These are licensed professions. You have no recourse if you take advice on these topics here. First aid is okay (good samatarian laws), but you should cross-post to sci.med or specific subgroup like sci.med.orthopedics, WITH A PROFESSIONAL: YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO SEE THEIR LICENSE, this is not the case on the net. In article <1991Aug5.email@example.com>, firstname.lastname@example.org (John S. Watson - FSC) writes: |> Mark Twain once said: |> "Be careful of reading health books, you might die of a misprint." |> Today we could replace "health books" with "usenet medical advice". Short explanation on network news groups. Netnews should not be regarded as a reliable information service. It is low priority for your computer. Different computers have different means of disseminating and presenting news articles. You may read terms like "nn," "rn," "notes" or "notesfiles" or "notesfolders," "bulletin boards," "BBS," "gnunews," "readnews," ad infinitum. This means 1) you may not get all articles on a topic, 2) the order in which articles come to you may not resemble a discussion. E.g., Subject: re: original topic Subject: original topic Or you may see "attribution" using '>' characters. These are reasons why others may see messages that you might not see. Increasingly, people in industry and government (typically not education) are starting to lose at work news access. It is possible to gain access to various free and pay for view Usenet services. If you need this, you need to obtain a copy of the nixpubs list. Ask around. What you are reading is an automated message posted once a month. This is sometimes called an FAQ or Frequently Answered/Asked Questions post. The purpose is to answer various types of basic questions for new comers as well as be a stable source of information for old foggies. Unfortunately, no conventions determine when an FAQ is posted. The structure of this FAQ is broken into 28 separate parts. Each part is intended to be small, and regularly posted (like clockwork). We could have one huge post, but that gets really cumbersome and it loses its effect. This new style is called a chain. Chains are the current experiment in FAQ design for large FAQs. We don't know how chains will works, but one problem we hope to solve is when a beginner posts a question have not seen the FAQ. Chains are designed with pointers to other panels which might have desired information. What is appropriate? Rec.backcountry is an unmoderated news group. Technically, this means anything, ANYTHING is appropriate. This is why I only support moderated newsgroups (moderation != censorship). Personal attacks are generally frowned upon. i.e., "Jane, you ignorant slut..." When in question/doubt, when in doubt, ask YOUR news administrator. TABLE OF CONTENTS of this chain: 26/ Other news groups of related interest, networking <* THIS PANEL *> 27/ Films/cinema references 28/ References (written) 1/ DISCLAIMER 2/ Ethics 3/ Learning I 4/ learning II (lists, "Ten Essentials," Chouinard comments) 5/ Summary of past topics 6/ Non-wisdom: fire-arms topic circular discussion 7/ Phone / address lists 8/ Fletcher's Law of Inverse Appreciation / Rachel Carson / Foreman and Hayduke 9/ Water Filter wisdom 10/ Volunteer Work 11/ Snake bite 12/ Netiquette 13/ Questions on conditions and travel 14/ Dedication to Aldo Leopold 15/ Leopold's lot. 16/ Morbid backcountry 17/ Information about bears 18/ Poison ivy, frequently ask, under question 19/ Lyme disease, frequently ask, under question 20/ "Telling questions" backcountry Turing test 21/ AMS 22/ Babies and Kids 23/ A bit of song (like camp songs) 24/ What is natural? 25/ A romantic notion of high-tech employment Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 04:53 EDT From: BROSIUS@ROO.FIT.EDU (Marc Brosius) Subject: Around-the-World Journal Hi, I am happy to announce the archiving of Russell Gilbert's Around-the-World Journal (with photos). It has been a great inspiration in planning my trip, and in assembling the RTW Travel Guide. The incredible hypertext version of his journal is available at: http://www.city.net/travel/atwj/ The ascii version should eventually be available also at: * ftp://ftp.digimark.net/rec-travel/rtw/absjnl/gilbert_jnl.txt If you do not have http access to city.net, please email Russell for the ascii version at email@example.com . TABLE OF CONTENTS AROUND-THE-WORLD JOURNAL: * Journal's Home Page * Introduction (Start here) * September (Dallas, Hawaii, Fiji) * October (Fiji, New Zealand, Australia) * November (Australia) * December (Australia, Hong Kong, Singapore) * January (Malaysia, Thailand) * February (Thailand, Nepal) * March (India, England, Wales, Scotland, Greece) * April (Greece, Ireland, Northern Ireland) * May, 1st Half (France, Switzerland, Italy) * May, 2nd Half (Italy, Austria, Germany, Czechoslovakia, Poland) * June (Germany, Sweden, Denmark, The Netherlands, Belgium) * Back Home (Dallas) OTHER JOURNAL ITEMS: * Photo Album (All the pictures, divided by country) * Comments (Notes from readers) * Expenses (A table of average costs per country) * Picture Notes (JPEG viewers, saving images, etc.) * Postscript (Entire journal--410Kb) * Plain Text (Entire journal--260Kb) * Copyright (The legal stuff) RELATED LINKS TO THE NET: * City.Net (Detailed country & city info--links to specific locations available throughout the journal) * Virtual Tourist II (Point-and-click world map--links to area maps available throughout the journal) * Marc Brosius' Round-The-World Travel Guide: + HTML: http://www.digimark.net/rec-travel/rtw/html/faq.html + FTP: ftp://ftp.digimark.net/rec-travel/rtw * The GNN/Koblas Currency Converter (Current Currency Rates) ======================================================================= Please let me know if you want to be on a mailing list for sporadic dispatches from our 2.5+ year trip, hopefuly starting in July. 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