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Alt-sex-fetish-fashion-archive-name: FAQ-Part2 Version: 3.0 Last-modified: 23-Feb-96 See reader questions & answers on this topic! - Help others by sharing your knowledge FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS AND OTHER INFORMATION. ================================================= These are the questions I've seen asked often on both this and other newsgroups, or those I've asked myself when I first got into this wonderful world. I've compiled the answers from all over, and put it all together - this is the result. 1. Questions and answers --------------------- What is a fetish and what is fetishism? Well, according to Websters Unabridged Encyclopedic Dictionary, (1989 edition) the definitions are as follows: Fet-ish: 1. An object regarded with awe as being the embodiment or habitation of a potent spirit or ashaving magical potency. 2. Any object, idea etc., eliciting unquestioning reverence, respect, or devotion. 3. (Psychology). Any object, part of the body etc., that, although not of a sexual nature, causes an erotic response or fixation. Also spelled 'fetich'. Fet-ish-ism: 1. Belief in, or use of fetiches. 2. (Psychiatry). The compulsive use of some object or part of the body as a stimulus in the course of attaining sexual gratification. 3. Blind devotion. Also spelled 'fetichism'. For our use it is clearly the definitions 2 and 3 (for 'fetish') and 2 plus perhaps 3 (for 'fetishism') that is relevant, the object being some form of clothing, outfit or footwear. Who are wearing fetish fashion? All kinds of people! - There's secretaries, editors, presidents, housewives, students, workmen, politicians, models and even unemployed among those known to enjoy the fashions. Perhaps you're next? When do people wear their fetish fashions? Often to fetish parties or while engaging in a scene at home. Some wears something along with regular clothing on a daily basis, just to 'stay in touch' with their fetish. My site doesn't carry alt.sex.fetish.fashion - How can I participate in the discussions? Check out the "How to Receive Banned Newsgroups" FAQ, avaliable in alt.censorship, alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk, alt.internet.services, news.misc, alt.answers, and news.answers. It gives all sorts of ways you can access newsgroups not otherwise avaliable at your site. Is this document available on WWW as a true html-document? YES! - If you're reading this via WWW, you're reading it! - If you're reading this via Usenet, it's available as this URL: http://login.dknet.dk/~pg/WWW/FAQ/contents.html What is the WWW? The World-Wide Web, a hypertext-based multimedia information system. Please consult the newsgroup comp.infosystems.www or the FAQ for this newsgroup for any other or additional information. Are there any sites on the WWW that carry fetish fashion oriented pictures? Check out my fetish fashion page at URL: http://login.dknet.dk/~pg/WWW/fetish.html ! Is it true that high heels damage the foot? No, not when we're talking quality footwear and healthy feet. All footwear may cause damage to the feet if too small or too badly designed. High heels are no exception, but studies even show that it actually may be healthy (better) to wear heels in the range 2"-3" than to wear flats! Lani Teshima-Miller <teshima@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu> writes: The problem is not with feet--it's with your back and your posture. High heels throw your whole spine out of whack because of the way it makes you stand--makes it curve differently. I think it used to lead to sore backs for me. Why do some women (and men) enjoy (or even prefer) to wear high heels? Ask them! - No, seriously, it may be that they both find them comfortable and enjoy what they're doing to the posture. There can be no doubt that high heels enhance both the legs and the overall posture and this makes the appearance much more sexy. And sex is power... Do some women really find high heels to be comfortable? Yes! - Most prefer more ordinary heel heights like 3", but some find higher heels even more preferable, and some even find 5" heels to be comfortable! Some even wear 6" heels on a regular basis, although those are more often to be found in connection with a scene - worn in the bedroom. Even 7" heels exist, but these are rarely seen. Can excessive wearing of high heels in any way be damaging? Yes, but in no way permanent. Non-stop wear can cause a shortening of the tendons in the back of the legs, causing pain when wearing heels lower than usual. Ignoring this pain can damage the tendon permanently, but the condition can be cured by wearing slightly lower and lower heels for an extended period. Some of the people suffering from this problem chose to handle it by wearing high heels all the time, and the story of one of these, Jessica, a 24 year old woman, can be found at the end of this section of the FAQ. It is a die-hard myth that all high heels damage the foot. This is not true! - Badly designed (cheap) heels might cause corns or worse, but well-designed, well-fitting high heels DOES NOT damage anything when worn even on a daily basis, as long as the feet gets to rest at least during the sleep period or similar (the feet needs shoeless rest). Fanatic 24h wear is another story... Is there anything important to know when starting to wear high heels? Lani Teshima-Miller <teshima@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu> writes: There is one very important thing to remember about high heels and starting to wear them, is that many people don't have trained ankles. You have to first learn how to walk in them, learn how not to wobble (by training your balance and ankles), and learn how to react when you happen to bend your ankle. I used to do this A LOT but never sprained it because I'd worn high heels all the time. But if your ankle's not used to it, watch out! How do I get my girlfriend to wear high heels (or boots or clogs) more often, particularly in the bedroom? Ms. Margo writes: First good thing to try is to ask her, but not when you're already in bed. Try some evening after dinner, "I really think you have beautiful legs and feet. I would love it if you would wear heels to bed some time." It's always easier if the other person feels that they are giving you a gift rather than being pressured into doing something that might make them uncomfortable. Buy her a really nice pair of heels. Well made, and unfortunately expensive, shoes will fit better and be much more comfortable than the $20 "all man made materials" throwaways that most shoe stores carry. I have a pair of extremely expensive thigh-high leather boots that fit perfectly. I can be on my feet all night, either at home or out at an event like ManRay, and my feet don't hurt. Shoe pads are good. The little Dr. Scholls (sp?) pads for the balls of the feet will make any high heels more comfortable. More comfortable = worn more often! Other good tricks are to rub the feet with hand lotion and go to bed with cotton socks on. Three nights in a row of this will make even my 6" heels comfortable for a full evening. Exercise will help to stretch the tendons in the ankles and calves. A good one is just to walk on your toes for a bit each day. Another good one is one skiers do - put your toes on the edge of a phonebook with your heels hanging off, raise and lower your heels stretching gently. If she is walking in high heels on a pile rug, offer your arm for support. Many women feel "unstable" in high heels and the extra support is comforting. To get her into bed with the shoes on, you might just try carrying her to the bed while she is dressed, and removing everything but the shoes. If all else fails, you could always go for the bondage shoe straps which lock the heels on, but I suspect this would freak her out worse than the shoes. Talk to her if she seems uncomfortable about your requests. Find out exactly what makes her feel uncomfortable and help her with those issues. Many women have been raised to see this kind of behavior as "kinky", "sick", or "slutty". Assure her that whatever makes two people happy is just fine. Assure her that you hold her in the highest respect and don't question her virtue. Assure her that you want to be perfectly honest with her, rather than hiding your desires from her. And last, but not least, compliment her if she does wear heels for you. Best of luck in your quest. A love for high heels is a wonderful, abet expensive, joy. My brand new patent leather high heels seem too tight in the toes and too wide in the heel - What do I do? Jeffrey Hurwit writes: Patent leather stretches a little eventually, as does any shoe material. Also, the material is of course new, so consequently a bit stiff. Once you put a few "miles" on them, they should soften up and have more give. If these were plain leather (not patent), I'd recommend neetsfoot oil to accelerate the softening process. But the patent finish would be impervious to it, and the oil (if applied from inside the vamp) could damage the finish. I would suggest (unless it's too late) that you spend several hours with them on carpeted floors to make sure that they'll work out, so that you can return them if they don't. Noire writes: I put double half-sole cushions in the bottom, right under the ball of the foot where the most pressure (and pain) builds. The pads take up enough space that the shoes fit fairly comfortably and they also keep my feet from sliding forward. I'd recommend using them for any heels. I've comfortably worn shoes that were this tight in the toes, but never such high heels. Does that make a difference? Jeffrey Hurwit writes: In my experience it does-- the higher heels tend to shift your weight more to the balls of your feet. Your feet will also tend to slide forward, putting more pressure on your toes. Ms. Margo writes: Yes it does, since most of your weight will be on the balls of your feet and that's a lot of pressure on your toes. If all else fails, go to a dance shop and buy some lambswool (which they sell for toe shoes) to wrap around your toes to prevent blisters. Do you have any tips on learning how to walk in high heels? Jeffrey Hurwit writes: Ankle training and ankle strength are very important, or you could twist an ankle and seriously hurt yourself. I found that walking (and hiking), bicycle riding, and ice skating all helped. Balance is of course important. Think of a line, like the blade of an ice skate, under the mid- dle of your foot from heel to toe, and try to center your weight over it for each foot as you walk. Experiment with your posture to balance your weight between your heels and the balls of your feet, first while standing still, then while walking. You'll probably want something or someone handy to help steady yourself while you're getting the knack. When you do go out, always be conscious of where you walk. Finally, restrictive clothing probably isn't a good idea while you're trying to learn... Ms. Margo writes: Well, take an emory board or a small bit of sandpaper and rough up the bottoms so they're not so slick. That will help to keep the shoe from sliding out from under you if you get your balance wrong. Try not to do your first practice on shag carpet - the heels will catch. Try not to use your arms to balance you. Practice walking with your hands held in the small of your back. This will keep you from looking like a T-Rex in stilletos. Take much smaller steps than you normally would. This will also help to keep your shoes underneath your center of gravity. Keep your ankles stong and firm by lifting up until you're standing on your tiptoes several times a day (best done without shoes). Or hang your heels off the edge of a phonebook and lower your heels as far as you can and then raise up on tiptoe. Don't pull the muscles, just gently strech. Take every opportunity to sit down and rest your feet. Take your escort's arm (even if they don't offer it) and use them to help balance when going down sidewlks, over uneven surfaces, or going down stairs. For three night's before the big occasion, go to bed with your feet slathered in hand cream and wearing cotton socks. This will soften up your feet and help prevent blisters. (Keep a band-aid or two in your bag just in case. They also come in handy for protecting against rough seams inside the shoes.) Throw a pair of flats or sneakers in your car, just so that if your feet are killing you by the end of the night, you don't have to climb three flights of stairs to your apartment in 5" spikes. How can a person stand in high heels and walk a long time? When I hear stories about people dancing all night in 6 inches heels I'm always skeptic. leatherrose@intex.net (Rikki) writes: I have found that some people can wear heels "much" easier than others. I have been wearing heels since the second grade and never had a problem with heels and now wear exclusivly 5" or higher. If you are one of those who are "stilletolly chanllenged" then I suggest exercise the calf muscles, walk on the balls of your feet even when barefoot, and try a clunky heel to get used to the heigth of the heel. PS: boots might support your ankle a bit! Karen (karenc@ottawa.net) writes: The key here is that you have to work at it. It takes balance, and strength to wear heels consistently. I have worked myself up to a minimum height of 3.5 inch heels for everyday wear (boots for winter and shoes for the office). Exercise is a good idea to build up the calf muscles. My personal suggestion to ensure a pleasuable experience is correct sizing of the shoes. Do not be convinced that you can't find the write size...women's shoes can be found in many sizes and widths (which is usually the hard part). If you are a wide width, do not be satisfied with B width shoes...go for the D's, Es or whatever it takes. It will make your goal more obtainable. Ankle support at first will help. It may be wise to gradually move from boots to shoes. Pumps provide more stability than slings or sandals, so work towards pumps first. What is PVC? PVC is an acronym for PolyVinylChloride, a form of plastic. It is in many ways similar to rubber (latex) but is less stretchy and is usually sown together instead of being glued or molded. It comes in many colors, including transparant, but red and black are the most common. Isn't tight clothing uncomfortable? Nope. Correctly designed it's both supportive and shapeenhancing and doesn't need to be any more restrictive or uncomfortable than whatever you'd consider 'normal' clothing. Naturally it can be uncomfortable but then it's worn particularly for the uncomfortability or to achieve some special effects like a small waist or to show off the legs or the butt particularly well. Is it true that wearing rubber can cause the skin to rot? Yes and no. If you let the skin breathe now and then, and keep a good hygiene, there should be no problems whatsoever. Is corsets dangerous to wear? No more than a scarf or a tie - if it's too tight it may cause serious damage, but when worn correctly, it's just like any other garment. One thing that is very important to remember is, that only very few people can wear off-the-rack corsets. Just about everyone else is much better off getting a custom made (and fitted) corset. If the corset doesn't fit perfectly it will cause problems and perhaps more or less serious damage. Do people still wear corsets today? Sure! - A lot fewer than in the Victorian Age, but there's still thousands all over the world that wouldn't be caught dead without the corset laced on, and I'm not talking about fat, old ladies that needs to keep the fat under control! How and with what do I polish leather? margo@netcom.com (Ms. Margo) writes: Get an old pair of your jeans. Put them on. Sit down on the floor. Polish the leather on your thigh until it feels like the jeans are going to catch on fire. Different types of leather polish differently. Some types of leather will polish minimally, others will take a good gloss. How do I treat black leather so it becomes soft, supple and maintains its fabulous gleam. margo@netcom.com (Ms. Margo) writes: Lexol is the stuff you want. Be careful using it on thin or garment leathers because while the item is still damp with Lexol it can be stretched very easily. I ruined a nice pair of gloves once by putting them on when they were still damp after being Lexoled. Allow them to dry well before use. If you have an item that's very dirty use saddle soap to clean it before you use the Lexol conditioner. To make things shine you really have to buff them. Old jeans or old socks and lots of elbow grease works well. What material was CatWomans outfit in the Batman II movie made of, who designed it and can I get one too? It was designed by Paul Barrett-Brown of The Rubber Mask and Costume Company... although Andy Wilkes of Syren manufactured all the suits used for filming. You can contact Syren (address in supplier list) for details on how to get your own CatWomans outfit. The material used was latex rubber, polished to a shine. Did Michelle Pfeiffer really wear high heeled boots in the Batman II movie, or was it a trick? No, it wasn't a trick. She did wear boots with no less than 5" stiletto heels for all her shots, but the stuntwoman doing the stunts for her wore considerably lower heels. Michelle handled herself very well indeed on those high heels, running, spinning and performing martial arts movements flawlessly - to the amazement of most of the crew. Way to go, Michelle! Source: Michael Singer "Batman Returns: The Official Movie Book", page 28. ISBN 0-553-37030-8 How do I get my latex or PVC garment on? Rich Greenberg <richgr@netcom.com> writes: Baby powder helps here, or if you look at SCUBA diving wet suit material, one version has smooth nylon on the inside and latex on the outside. How do I make my latex or PVC garment shiny? margo@netcom.com (Ms. Margo) writes: I firmly believe that one should use pure talc for latex rather than baby powder, which contains oils. However, I know that there are plenty of laissez-faire folks out there who use baby powder and have never had a problem. For the record, I use only pure talc on my latex. I'm a bit paranoid since I had a lovely hood that disolved a hole from being put away without being washed. I have learned my lesson; you can't cheat when it comes to caring for latex. I use Black Beauty polish when I want a serious shine. (Tip: Apply it with one of those large flat foam brushes that hardware stores sell for painting moldings.) I do find that just plain water will remove excess powder and leave a nice shine. It's cheaper and has no chemical smell. What is the best care for latex garments? Kris Davidson writes: The following is from a piece of paper the guy at Body Worship gave me when I made my pur- chase. It is entirely a direct quote. TAKING CARE OF YOUR LATEX WEARING Before wearing, remove all jewelry as it may catch and tear your rubber. Ensure that your body is completely dry. Smooth a small amount of powder onto your skin and lightly dust the inside of the garment. Take your time getting into your garment. You will quickly learn the best and easiest technique for dressing. On sleeved garments that must be pulled on over the head, we advise that you put one arm in first then the head and lastly the remaining arm. Ease the rubber onto your body, being careful not to grab with fingernails. CLEANING Follow these simple steps and your latex will look flawless every time you wear it. Wash in hand warm water with a drop of liquid hand soap. Clean inside and out and rinse well in clean water. Hang up to dry away from direct sunlight and when complataly dry, dust with a little powder and store in a cool, dry place. POLISHING To bring out the deep glossy shine of the latex. First wipe off any powder from the outside with a soft lint free cloth. Using either "Black Beauty" or "Armorall", spray a light film onto the surface and buff to an even shine. DO'S & DONT'S - DO USE WATER BASED LUBRICANTS IF NEEDED. - DO STORE IN A COOL DARK PLACE. - DO CLEAN YOUR LATEX AFTER USE. - DO DRY AND POWDER YOUR LATEX FOR STORAGE. - DON'T USE OIL OR GREASE PRODUCTS (BABY OIL, VASELINE, ETC.) - DON'T EXPOSE TO STRONG SUNLIGHT OR U.V. LIGHT. - DON'T EXPOSE TO HEATERS OR NAKED FLAME. - DON'T WASH YOUR LATEX IN ANY TYPE OF WASHING MACHINE. - DON'T DRY YOUR LATEX IN ANY TYPE OF DRYER. - DON'T USE HARSH ABRASIVES, STRONG CLEANERS OR SOLVENTS ON YOUR LATEX. What is the difference between 'gluing' and 'cementing'? jhurwit@netcom.com (Jeffrey Hurwit) writes: Glue sticks things together by adhesion. It more or less flows into the "rough" surface (of even something smooth, like glass) of whatever it is you want to join, creating a bond. Examples are using rubber contact cement to glue wood, paper, etc. (but not rubber), white glue on anything, superglue (believe it or not), and most adhesive tapes. The main point about glues is that the bond is only physical, based on its ability to grip the surface it's being used to join. Cement, however, bonds things together chemically. The simplest kind of cement consists of some material that is the same as what is to be joined, which has been dissolved in a solvent. When such a cement is applied to the surface that's to be joined, the solvent eats into the surface, dissolving or at least softening a small portion of it. (The action of the solvent is limited by the fact that it's already been saturated with the material dissolved in it.) When the surfaces to be joined are brought into contact, the softened or partially liquefied materials flow together, forming a chemical weld (when all the solvent has evaporated) that is indeed as strong or stronger than the material which is being joined. Examples are rubber contact cement when used on a rubber that has the same chemical base as the cement (so that the solvent will attack it), such as wetsuit cement (neoprene in a solvent), tire and innertube patch cement; also PVC pipe cement, airplane "glue" or model cement (effective on styrene plastics), and the specialized plastic cements (the correct one has to be used for the particular plastic involved) available at plastics supply houses. The main point about cements is that, if the right (chemically compatible) cement is not being used, you will have only a glue at best, and the bond probably won't be very strong at all. In order to find the right cement, the material to be joined must first be positively identified. Like someone already mentioned, you have to know if your rubber is in fact natural rubber (and what kind of rubber it is), or if it's a plastic synthetic. Whenever I need to cement something (frequently some plastic thingy that I need to repair), I usually just take it to a (plastics) shop, and let the experts tell me what kind of cement I need for it. Which glue is used to repair rubber? Jeffrey Hurwit writes: If you don't mind doing a little more research, and your own simple chemistry, you could possibly make your own (glue). Many rubber and plastic cements (eg. such as the neoprene cement surfers and divers use to patch wetsuits) are nothing more than some of the rubber or plastic dissolved in an appropriate solvent. When applied to the material to be bonded, the solvent eats into and softens the surface, allowing it to integrate with what's dissolved in the solvent. As the solvent evaporates, the whole thing becomes bonded together. So all you need to do is find out what is the solvent for latex. If a shop that sells plastics and/or rubber can't tell you, a chemistry prof at your local university possibly could. A science librarian at a college library could also possibly help you find out. Tony@morgan.demon.co.uk (Tony Kidson) writes: As an ex-chemist, I believe that Xylene is a good solvent for this application. Bill Lemieux <blemieux@nyx.cs.du.edu> writes: Best-Test paper cement is a _latex_ based cement available at art stores. Any other cement you can find that contains latex as a binder, and heptane as the solvent, will also work. You will also need to buy some Bestine cement thinner. Thin the cement about 1:1- it contains too little solvent as it comes in the can. The basic operation is to clean both surfaces of your seam (allow about 1/2" overlap for seams in most material, perhaps 1/4" in only the thinnest latex), then apply cement to both surfaces, and allow it to dry for several minutes. Allow to dry in free air, without a fan. Seam is ready to join when cement no longer appears glossy, typically at_least five minutes. Do not attempt to join immediately. After joining the seam, use a narrow roller, such as a nylon or wooden ink brayer, also available at art stores, to roll the seam under high pressure. This is necessary for a good strong joint. Now the problems: 1. As soon as you put cement on the latex, the solvent will swell the surface, causing a lot of curling. This is impossible to prevent with any glue that will make a decent joint. To make the latex manageable, especially on curved seams, make a clamping jig that is considerably longer than the seams you'll want to glue. It can be made of wood, or angle iron, so long as it will provide even and complete compression, the length of the seam. Now, clamp one end of the seam at one end, and stretch the seam until it is straight, then close the jig on it, holding it flat and stretched out. Too much stretch will make the seam curl over. Now do the same to the mating edge, and glue as above. I never said it would be easy. 2. Heptane is incredibly bad for you, despite the fact that it smell very nice, as solvents go. Use only in a well ventilated area, and keep a fan (on slow) at your back, to carry the fumes away from you. Failing that, get and use a respirator mask that will remove organic solvent vapors. How to actually perform the act of repairing rubber/latex? an68270@anon.penet.fi (Rubber Lover) writes: The real trick invovles holding the seam together while you glue the patch in and also in keeping the patch from curling after you apply the cement. Here's how I've done it repairs for over 25 years now... You'll need to get rubber cement (Elmer's, etc.), rubber cement thinner, acetone, drafting tape and pure talc. Place the torn spot face up on a flat surface and work the split area closed along its original lines. When the tear is aligned place a strip of drafting tape over the tear area to hold it togther. *** NOTE *** Use drafing tape instead of masking tape!!! Drafting tape looks just like masking tape but has a greatly reduced tack to it (it ain't as sticky!). Now place a strip of tape over your patch material (on the shiny side) and you may now cut (with scissors) a patch that will exactly cover the area to be repaired (I always give about 1/4 to 3/8 of an inch of coverage on either side of the tear). Next, lay the patch over the area to be glued and apply a very small piece of tape to keep it aligned (Like a hinge). Now lay the patch over to expose the gluing surface. It helps to put some waxed paper under the patch so that you don't slop glue onto areas not to be patched. Pour some of the acetone onto a cloth and clean the areas to be cemented. This includes the patch as well. Do this in a ventilated area. Thin a small quantity of the rubber cement by about half with the cement thinner and apply it to both surfaces (patch and patch area). Wait about two minutes or so until the glue has dried (maybe longer) and then gently roll the patch over the tear area. Wait a few minutes before removing the tape but DO remove the tape! Sprinkle the patched area with talcum powder to kill the tack of the remaining cement and voila'. Away you go. Does sweat damage latex? Yes and no. Sweat in itself contains body oil that like other oils slowly disintegrates the material. But it needs time to perform its corrosive deed and thus a simple rinsing with a mild dishwash soap will clean it enough. Left to itself, the oil with either eat through the material or cause it to harden and become fragile. But the sweat from a days wear will not even begin to do any damage before you remove the garment and rinse it, and thus may be considered 'harmless'. How do I measure the length of my feet to find the correct shoe size? Tina H. <terjeh@ifi.uio.no> writes: Sitting on a chair, wearing your usual hosiery or socks, place your foot on a plain piece of cardboard. Have someone hold a different piece of cardboard vertically at the heel, then draw a line where the two cardboard pieces meet. Then hold the cardboard at the end of the longest toe. Draw a line here as well. Now remove your foot and measure the distance in centimeters or millimeters between the two lines. Now consult the shoe size conversion table in the next part of the FAQ. How do you measure the height of a heel? CyberQueen@cdspub.com (JoAnn Roberts) writes: There are at least two different ways that manufacturers measure the height of a heel. The most common method is to measure from the base of the heel to the point where the heel first meets the sole, i.e. the inside edge of the heel. The height is measured in eighths of an inch. The other method used is to measure from the base straight up the centerline of the heel until it intersects the sole. This gives a slightly higher measurement than the first method. In either case, the actual increase in your height is greater because you get elevated by the amount at the back of the heel. Also, the larger the shoe size the easier it is to wear a higher heel. It's got to do with the triangle formed by the heel height and length of the shoe. A smaller size has a much steeper angle for the same heel height. These answers are not definite nor complete. If you've got a better answer (in your opinion), do send it to me along with your reason for it. This is a section where your input is needed, so if you feel you've got the answer or corrections/expansions to the answers to any of these questions - send them to me! 2. Corsets 101. ------------ The following was written by Ms. Margo in response to a letter from dq861@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (R. Thomas Haden), both of whom has very kindly given me permission to publicise it. If you find any errors or omissions in this segment, please do post a follow-up. It will be appreciated. The corset is a very old garment. If we use the term to loosely describe a garment meant to constrict the waist of the wearer, then there are examples of corsets depicted on statuettes from Minoan Crete dating to approximately 1600 B.C. The corset as we know it today, with its stays, busk, and laces, came into general vogue in the mid 1700's and reached it's height of popularity at the turn of the century and began to decline in the 1920's with the invention of camiknickers, the forerunner of the modern teddy, and brassieres. At the height of its popularity the corset was available in many specialized forms. There were tennis corsets, swimming corsets, hip corsets, electrical corsets, abdominal strengthening corsets, men's corsets, training corsets (complete with crossing shoulder straps and attachable thigh-high boots, to prevent the young trainee from removing her corset), and amazingly, maternity corsets. There were several magazines exclusively devoted to corset culture. Most notably among them was "The Wasp", published in London. It was felt that corsets not only molded a Lady's body, but also her character. It compressed her waist, raised her bosom, flattened her stomach, rounded her hips, straightened her back, lifted her head, shortened her steps to an appropriate 12" gait, kept her from being wild and tomboyish in her behavior, and "instilled a properly submissive attitude." Where or whom would you recommend for custom work? B.R. Creations Post Office Box 4201 Mountain View, California 94040 U.S.A. B.R. Creations is run by Ruth Johnson. She is very dedicated to corsetry and makes the best corsets on American soil. (Actually, she produces some of the only ones, but who's quibbling.) Her corsets are meant for daily wear are very durable. She also produces a corsetry newsletter that comes out four times yearly. Her color catalog is $7.00 for the U.S. and Canada, $10 for overseas. The Corset Newsletter (6 issues/year) is $18.00 for the U.S. and Canada, $24.00 for overseas. Several months ago, my fiance' and I purchased a Vollers corset (Deep Waist Nipper). At the time, it was 4 inches smaller than her waist. She has, however, recently lost weight to the extent that when fully laced, the corset fits her normally. Rather, there is no body modification at all. You are correct about the 4" of reduction from the normal waist measurement for a first corset. But given that she has now lost enough weight that the corset no longer causes any body modification, I would recommend a new corset with a 2" decrease from her current laced waist. Where would I go for a custom-job, and would we have to appear in person, etc? While it's wonderful to be able to be hand fitted for a corset, a perfectly fitting corset can be made from measurements. B.R. supplies an order form that specifies the measurements necessary for the properly fitting corset. If you have a tape measure, you can get a well fitting corset. What are the customs for having a made-to-measure corset done? Choose the style that you like from the several that they offer in the catalog. Choose a fabric that suits your tastes and projected uses for the corset. On request B.R. will supply samples of the satins, brocades, cottons, leathers, and metallic leathers that they use for their corsets. Choose any trim options that you wish, such as satin or velvet edging, lace or ribbon overlay, rhinestone trim, satin lining, or extra garters. Depending on the style and fabrics you select, a custom made corset costs $150.00-$350.00 U.S. Measure carefully, and order your corset. It will take about 6-8 weeks to be made by hand and will be sent to you by post. If you have any questions, contact them by mail or phone. They are very knowledgeable and willing to help you. What should the reduction measurements on the corsets be? I know that 4" for a first try is pretty standard from talking to makers, but how does one get into advanced work and how far can one go? Yes, a 4" reduction from the natural waist is recommended for your first corset. (Before you start serious corsetry training, it is recommended to lose excess weight.) When one trains down to the point that the corset no longer fits snugly, a new corset should be ordered with a reduction of 2" from the current laced waist. The first 6" will go fairly quickly, but as a rule, further reductions go much more slowly. As you go further into waist training, you find that adjustments have to be made in the lifestyle, especially in eating habits. Meals will have to be much smaller and more frequent. Since the corset compresses the intestines rather severely, a large heavy meal will cause discomfort at best and serious pain at worst. It is recommended to have 5-6 light meals, rather that the 3 large meals most people eat, and to let out the laces a few inches before eating - retightening an hour or so later. Since the success of the training depends on the amount of time that a corset is worn, rather than how tightly it is laced, sleeping will be altered to include sleeping in the corset. Eventually only a few hours a day for washing will be spent without the corset. Rapidly lacing to a very small waist will appear to have the quickest results, but it is the easiest way to actually harm your body. It is much better to lace the corset snugly, but not uncomfortably so, and wear it for a longer period of time. How far can you trim a waist over time? There are three schools of thought on how small a waist can be achieved with tightlacing. One school says to target a waist that is 10" smaller than the starting waist. So a woman with a 28" waist could aim for an ultimate goal of 18". The other school says that the waist should a fraction of the bust. The starting reduction should be 3/4 of the bust measurement, a moderate reduction should be 5/8 of the bust measurement, and the minimum reduction for a decent Lady should be no less than 1/2 of the bust measurement. So our woman with the 28" starting waist who has a 36" bust (approximately a 34B bra size) would start by aiming for a waist of 27", train down to a waist of 22 1/2", and go no smaller than a waist of 18". This method has the advantage of working for a visually balanced figure. The final school says to target a waist that is at the same size, or slightly smaller than the measurement of the upper thigh. This method has the advantage of being sensitive to the person's body 0weight and percentage of body fat. If weight is gained or lost then the waist can be targeted relative to the thigh measure. The world's smallest waist belonged to Mrs. Ethel Granger (deceased). At her ultimate her waist measured just 13". This took a lifetime of work to achieve and she lived to the ripe old age of 77. However, her figure was so modified, with her lower ribs collapsed, that few would find it attractive. I've heard about serious back problems that are associated with corsets, are there ways that these can be prevented that allow the fun of corsets to be enjoyed? If you have a properly fitting hourglass corset, then the amount of pressure that is put on the lower back is reduced. A wasp-waist or S- Curve corset will put more pressure on the spine and bend it at severe angles. An hourglass or pipe-stem corset is designed as a small hemisphere above a larger hemisphere, connected by a short stem. A wasp-waist corset is designed as a small cone over a large cone. An S-Curve, Gibson Girl, straightfront, or "ice cream cone" corset is designed like an ice cream cone with the ice cream stuck on the wrong end, with a small cone over a larger hemisphere. These types of corsets have had various periods of popularity. To properly wear a wasp-waist corset one must begin training in adolescence, to prevent the rib cage from growing normally. However, some tightlacers do wear them. But a properly fitting corset should not be painful to wear. My ASCII art skills are minimal, but I will attempt the drawings: Hourglass: ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) <-----Normal Waistline ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) <-----Normal Hipline ( ) ( ) Wasp-waist: \ / \ / \ / \ / <-----Elevated Waistline / \ / \<-----Normal Waistline / \ / \ / \ / \ <-----Normal Hipline / \ / \ S-Curve: \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / <-----Normal Waistline ( ) ( ) ( ) ( ) <-----Normal Hipline ( ) ( ) To keep the pressure on the lower back to a minimum have a well fitting corset; this will help to support the body rather than crimp it. Do not overlace it; pull the laces snug and tight, but not uncomfortably so. If the compression is painful, unlace the corset and start again. Do not lace it too rapidly; lace it snugly and if necessary tighten the laces after the corset has been worn for a few hours. Do not try to lace the corset tight in one pass; tighten the laces in stages to allow your internal organs time to adjust to the compression. Lace from both ends to the middle pullers rather than from top to bottom; this will help to keep the laces from sliding and also help to keep from overlacing the bottom of the corset relative to the top. Do not try to force positions that the corset will not allow. Especially harmful to the back is bending forward from the waist. Instead, bend the knees and reach down. Keeping your body in good shape will also help to strengthen your back. You might want to start a regime of "crunches" (not straight leg sit-ups) or other exercises that strengthen the muscles of the abdomen and lower back. Eventually, you'll feel more comfortable in your corset than out of it. I can't find very much information on corsets. All help and any knowledge you wish to give to me are appreciated! I would recommend "Body Play" magazine to you. It is put out by Fakir Musafar and almost every issue contains something about corsetry or body modification. There is a nice series on corsets that begins with issue #3. The Fakir is sometimes too much into the Shamanism of body modification for my taste, but he is very knowledgeable and writes well. There is also a nice article on corsets in an S&M context in "Sandmutopia Guardian", issue #11. Body Play c/o Insight Books Post Office Box 2575 Menlo Park, California 94026 U.S.A. Subscriptions (4 issues/year) are $45.00 U.S. and Canada, $55.00 overseas. Back issues are $12.00 U.S. and Canada, $14.00 overseas. Sandmutopia Guardian Desmodus, Inc. Post Office Box 410390 San Francisco, California 94141 U.S.A. Subscriptions (6 issues/year) are $24.00 U.S. and Canada, $35.00 overseas. Order back issues from: RoB, Inc. 24 Shotwell Street San Francisco, California 94103 U.S.A. 3. Corsets - Embracing a labour of love. ------------------------------------- The following was written by: THOMAS B. LIERSE <staylace@aol.com> PRESIDENT, LONG ISLAND STAYLACE ASSOCIATION (AVOCATIONAL VICTORIAN AND EDWARDIAN CORSETRY) Copyright (C) 1992 by Tes Staylace Corset training is, by its nature and intended outcome, a "labour of love". Without commitment, all efforts will fail. One must remember the three components of successful figure training: Diet, exercise, and the proper selection and use of the garment. The diet component is interpretive: Other than the fact that special attention should be paid to the waist area muscles, any regimen which reduces body fat is satisfactory. It is important to remember that fat exists on the inside of your body, as well as the outside, and hinders the proper transit and relocation of internal organs during tightlacing (It also simply takes up space, and the goal of corset training is to reduce mass). Six meals, rather than the customary two per day, is suggested. Obviously, these meals should be small, and consistent with comtemporary healthy diet recommended. Your first corset should be purchased in a size that is four inches less than your measured girth; that is, CLOSED. The importance of having your corsets professionally fitted, especially for training purposes, cannot be overemphasized. Your comfort and health, to say nothing of proper visual impact, DEPEND upon an exact fitting. In addition, most chaffing can be avoided by wearing a properly sized garment. The key word in garment-size progression is "gradual". One wants to treat oneself with love, and it takes TIME for a body to acclimate itself to the strictures of tightlacing. These four inches should be taken in slowly, day by day, or week by week if necessary. Once this has happened, and one is comfortable, the next progression should be to a garment a further four inches smaller--This may take two months or six, depending on the trainee. The older corset should be used for night confinement: One should almost ALWAYS be corsetted, except for toilette ac- tivities. Never be without a corset for more than an hour. If this is impossible, a wide training belt should be purchased--organ and lower rib displacement is the goal and the body reacts well to consistency. However, one must NEVER be uncomfortable, especially when sitting (in a straight-backed chair, of course!). You must pay special attention to your skin: The wearing of a corset will of, course, deprive healthy skin of proper exposure to air (oxygen). This will tend to dry it or, at times (depending on the wearer) cause chaffing, especially if perspiration is present. Thus, it is important to apply moisturizing oils or lotions to the skin at every possible opportunity, followed by talc, especially if one has a tendency to perspire excessively. Care must also be paid in keeping the garment clean, as oil and chemicals will tend to shorten its life. One of the more popular devices used for such purpose is a sheath made of a material commonly referred to as "bathing suit" cloth; these spandex-like tubes can easily be fashioned and worn underneath the corset. Of course, you must have a clean one for every new corsetted day! While many like the idea of pretty lingerie underneath, be aware that corset pressure will tend to stretch and/or rip delicate fabrics (the spandex tube, however, will shrink to accommodate your ever-smaller stays!). Efficient ways for donning your stays include the lacing bar, and laying prone on the floor. Both these methods allow the waist to contract to its smallest circumference, permitting easier application of the garment. Also bear in mind that it is possible for you (with practice) to put on your own corset, without assistance, after you are down to your desired girth. However, it is recommended that you employ a SENSITIVE partner to help you during training, as the rigor can be demanding. Remember that only the person inside a corset truly knows, from moment-to-moment, the effects of the lacing. A well-made corset will be sold with an insert, generally made of the same material as the garment itself, which will fit under the lacing, to prevent binding of the skin as the laces are pulled closed. So far as choice of materials for a corset, one will find that various types fulfill various requirements. For instance, a leather corset will mold easily to the body and breathe, while a latex or hard rubber garment will induce perspiration, which, for some, provides an excellent way to spur on weight loss. However, the average person will find a cotton or coutil garment (perhaps with an overlay of brocade or silk to add spice and sexiness) to be quite satisfactory. One should just keep in mind that most garments, regardless of material, require a "breaking-in" period of several wearings. Most corsets come with cotton lacings. I recommend they be replaced with the stronger (and less bulky) nylon version. A well-constructed garment, especially one made for training, will have double-stays (the sprung-metal rods sewn into the corset vertically at regular intervals all round). In addition, a strong cloth "ribbon", usually sewn into the interior, should circle the corset horizontally from the lacingstay to the frontbusk (a busk being a much wider stay which anchors the front hook-and-eye clo- sure). This feature strengthens the corset and aids in the prevention of tearing. Those who value posture training while preparing for a small waist might also consider optional shoulder-straps. These will hold the shoulders back and, thus, the head erect. Of course, a matching laced "neck-corset" achieves the same end with more aesthetic quality. The effect of a tightly-laced corset is further enhanced by the wearing of high-heeled shoes, even while training. These tend to thrust the body forward, providing a visually pleasing balance to the your picture of loveliness. A tiny waist is a wonder to behold - exotic artistry of the female form; the end-result of such diligent training is highly satisfying. But the pride of knowing that one is capable of the self-discipline to accomplish such a feat is reward unto itself! 4. Jessica - Wearing high heels for an extended period of time. ------------------------------------------------------------ Through a friend on the net I heard about this now 24 year old woman named Jessica who's been wearing 4"-5" heels for the past 10 years or so, more or less non-stop. I got in touch with her and she didn't mind sharing her footwear experiences with us. I've edited some of her replies to my queries into a whole which follows below - mostly in her own words: I started wearing them when I was about 15. I started and refused to wear anything else because I wanted to get used to them. After about a year it was difficult to flatten my foot so I just wore heels always instead. After about 3 years I couldn't wear anything lower than 4" or it would really really hurt. I've been in them since. I have tried to get help but nothing worked. Most doctors say to slowly wear lower heels. When I try anything lower than 4", my calves really hurt almost immediately and my calves will hurt for the next few days during which I have to wear 5" heels or so, or it will hurt. I guess I started wearing them when I was pretty young and still growing, and I grew into them, and can't change now. I used to really hate the heels because I was so limited, but I have accepted it ok. Yes, I have shoes, I think they're called mules, that I wear at night sometimes and in the shower. I can walk on my toes if I have to, but my calves get tired real fast. Mules are heels, like pumps, but with nothing covering the heel of my foot, so they sort of slip on like slippers. I don't sleep in them often but I have many times. Sometimes after I have been wearing them all day it hurts when I try to take them off. I guess my foot gets used to being in such a tight shoe all day that it can't handle being pulled out of the shoe too fast. So I just wear them to bed and usually the next day I can take them off, but sometimes it takes even longer. It usually just happens with my new shoes. I have a ton. I have about 50 pair of 4" and higher heels, and about 5 or 6 pair of boots with 4"-5" heels. Most of them are black, because black goes with everything. I have about every color though! In the winter I wear my boots mostly. The beach? Well, I don't do that too much but I would just wear an old pair of pumps, but it's hard for me to walk on sand or anything like that because my heels tend to sink into the sand and that causes my foot to try to go flat, and it hurts when I let that happen. I work in a professional setting, so heels are almost required, so I'm ok thank goodness. I started wearing them because I liked how they looked and I really wanted to get used to them so that they wouldn't bother me when I wore them. I thought that if I just wore them all the time that I would get used to them and they would feel normal to me, so I wore them and did everything in them all day long. I am 24, 5'7" in my heels (that was another reason I started wearing them and wanted to get used to them. I was only 5'2"). My problem doesn't seem to bother anyone really. I get foot massages all the time because I need them so much. I don't discourage women from wearing them. In fact, I think I almost encourage people since they see me wear them always and have no trouble with them. I have mixed responses from people. I usually don't really care what people think though. I just wear what I want to wear. Yes.. I drive a lot, but if it's only a few blocks I'll walk. I probably walk just as much as everyone else does. I can handle it. The only problem with walking too much in heels is that the heels wear out fast. I only have a few pairs higher than 5". I have 4 or 5 pair that are 5 1/4 I think. My foot is already somewhat hyperextended when I wear those though. I only wear a size 7, so 5" are quite high already. I find 4 1/2" to be the most comfortable. 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