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Index of questions:

XI. Where can I get these packages and what tutorial information is available?
	A. Tcl and Tk
	B. The Tcl/Tk User Contributions Archive
	C. Expect available via e-mail.
	D. EMACS and other editor modes for Tcl
	E. The tk toolbox project (obsolete)
	F. [tv]grind definitions for tcl/tk/expect
	G. BNF style notation for Tcl
	H. Tcl/Tk Quick Reference Guides
	I. Hilit 19 Tcl mode
	J. HTML versions of Tcl man pages and FAQ.
	K. Japanese translation of Tk 3.6 manuals
	L. Latex styles for the Tcl/Tk Workshop 94.
	M. Tcl References for various platforms
	N. The "How do I speed up a Tcl/Tk application" doc
	O. http files without a WWW client
	P. The patch and gzip commands, along with other useful utilities
	Q. Source code from published books
	R. Documentation relating to Perl's Tk interface
	S. Tutorials on various subjects
        T. Unicode and other specialized fonts

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From: FAQ Tcl/Tk Package Catalog Subject: -XI- Where can I get these packages and what tutorial information is available? Tcl and Extended Tcl have been posted to comp.sources.misc in the past, appearing In volume 25 and then Tcl appeared again in volume 26 and can be found at most comp.sources.misc archive sites in the tcl and tclx directories. These are quite old versions actually, but are still usable. A few of the sites which either mirror the Tcl/Tk submissions or have special versions are: <URL: http://tcl.activestate.com/ > - official home of Tcl/Tk base code <URL: ftp://ftp.procplace.com/pub/tcl/ > - official ftp home for comp.lang.tcl contributed sources archive <URL: ftp://ftp.syd.dit.csiro.au/pub/tk/ > - shadow of the user contrib and base <URL: ftp://iskut.ucs.ubc.ca/pub/X11/tcl/ > <URL: ftp://ftp.switch.ch/mirror/tcl/ > <URL: ftp://ftp.cs.tu-berlin.de/pub/tcl/ > - Does not seem to be answering <URL: ftp://ftp.Germany.EU.net/pub/programming/tools/tcl/ > <URL: ftp://ftp.hrz.uni-kassel.de/pub/tcl/ > - base software <URL: ftp://ftp.informatik.tu-muenchen.de/pub/comp/programming/languages/tcl/ > <URL: ftp://ftp.mpi-sb.mpg.de/pub/tcl/ > <URL: ftp://ftp.tu-bs.de/pub/languages/tcl/ > <URL: ftp://ftp.uni-paderborn.de/unix/tcl/ > <URL: ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/languages/tcl/ > - user software archive <URL: ftp://ftp.ibp.fr/pub/tcl/ > - shadow of base,user,expect,ak,tkwin and comp.lang.tcl archive <URL: ftp://ftp.jussieu.fr/pub/tcl/ > <URL: ftp://ftphost.comp.vuw.ac.nz/ > - VUW <URL: ftp://ftp.sra.co.jp/pub/lang/tcl/ > <URL: ftp://oskgate0.mei.co.jp/free/X/toolkits/tcl/ > - shadow of ftp.cs only <URL: ftp://ftp.ncc.up.pt/pub/tcl/code/ > - some code mirrored <URL: ftp://ftp.luth.se/pub/languages/tcl/ > - some code mirrored <URL: ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/lang/tcl/ > - some code mirrored <URL: http://src.doc.ic.ac.uk/packages/tcl/ > <URL: ftp://src.doc.ic.ac.uk/packages/tcl/tcl-archive/ > - shadow of user archive <URL: ftp://src.doc.ic.ac.uk/usenet/news.answers/comp.lang.tcl/ > - shadow of FAQs <URL: ftp://unix.hensa.ac.uk/pub/yggdrasil/usr/lib/xf-2.3/ > <URL: ftp://ftp.cs.columbia.edu/pub/archives/tcl/ > - shadow of user, etc. <URL: http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/tclx/ > - home of TclX <URL: ftp://ftp.sterling.com/programming/languages/tcl/ > <URL: ftp://ftp.uu.net/languages/tcl/ > - shadow of base code only <URL: ftp://gatekeeper.dec.com/pub/UCB/tcl/sprite/ > - shadow of base only <URL: ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/ > - contains port of extended Tcl and extended Tk to this OS. <URL: ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/languages/tcl/ > <URL: ftp://ftp.rge.com/pub/languages/tcl/ > <URL: ftp://wuarchive.wustl.edu/languages/tcl/ > Note also that there are a number of CD-ROMs now available with a snapshot of various Tcl archive sites on them. (See "bibliography/part1") for details. Another site which is available is <URL: http://ftpsearch.ntnu.no/ > . Once you enter this site, just type the name of the package you are wanting and you should get back a list of ftp sites where the package is available.
From: -XI- Where can I get these packages and what tutorial information is available? Subject: -A- Tcl and Tk <URL: http://tcl.activestate.com/ > contains a description of all the files available on the site. Most of the files are compressed tar or zip files; to get back the original directory hierarchies, type a command like the following for each file you retrieved: zcat tk8.0.tar.Z | tar xf - This will create a directory named tk8.0 with all the source files and documentation for that release. For files with ".gz" extensions, use a command like the following instead of the one above: gunzip -c tk8.0.tar.gz | tar xf - Each of the releases has a README file in the top-level directory that describes how to compile the release, where to find documentation, etc. In addition to the information here, there are many other Tcl/Tk extensions, scripts, and applications in the Tcl contributed archive, which is currently located in the public FTP directory <URL: ftp://ftp.procplace.com/pub/tcl/ >. There is also a collection of Web pages on Tcl and Tk at the URL <URL: http://tcl.activestate.com/ >. Questions or problems with any of these distributions should be directed to the <URL: news:comp.lang.tcl > newsgroup.
From: -XI- Where can I get these packages and what tutorial information is available? Subject: -B- The Tcl/Tk User Contributions Archive Contributions to the Tcl/Tk Contrib Archive are most welcome -- please visit <URL: ftp://ftp.procplace.com/pub/tcl/ > and read about how to contribute. *WARNING*! Archive maintainers will *NOT* be automatically archiving anything posted to comp.lang.tcl or previously to the mailing list. So if you want your nifty porting instructions for getting Tcl up on your Seiko wrist watch or your pen computer to be saved for others benefit, be sure to ftp them into the archive. Note: I have noticed that some authors prefer to use plain names rather than incluing version level type names. This means that a user mush a) make note of when they get a package, and b) check the date on the archive occasionally to see if a newer version of the package has appeared.
From: -XI- Where can I get these packages and what tutorial information is available? Subject: -C- Expect available via e-mail. Besides being available via <URL: ftp://ftp.cme.nist.gov/pub/expect/ >, expect can also be received by email by sending the message "send pub/expect/expect.shar.Z" to <URL: mailto:library@cme.nist.gov > .
From: -XI- Where can I get these packages and what tutorial information is available? Subject: -D- EMACS modes for Tcl EMACS itself can be found at <URL: http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs.html > and <URL: http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/voelker/ntemacs.html > among other places. <URL: mailto:snl+@cs.cmu.edu > (Sean Levy) has hacked a version of Emacs's C mode into a tcl-mode.el. He mentions that you must use semi-colons at the end of each statement to get indentation to work right, but he found that easier than doing without. The code is on <URL: ftp://ftp.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/user/snl/pub/ > (don't forget binary mode) . <URL: mailto:jules@kauri.vuw.ac.nz > (Julian Anderson) was also working on an Emacs Tcl minor mode to fundamental. <URL: mailto:tromey@busco.lanl.gov > (Tom Tromey) has contributed a tcl.el which is better than his former tcl-help.el. This is a modified version of Chris Lindblad's Tcl editing mode. This new editing mode contains the help code, a tcl interaction mode, menus, font lock support, etc. It is available on the Emacs Lisp Archive at <URL: ftp://archive.cis.ohio-state.edu/pub/emacs/elisp-archive/modes/ > <URL: http://drip.colorado.edu/%7Etromey/src/tcl.el >. <URL: mailto:schmid@fb3-s7.math.TU-Berlin.DE > (Gregor Schmid) has written a major mode for tcl scripts. He posted tcl-mode 1.1 to gnu.emacs.sources in March and it should be on the Ohio State emacs elisp-archive - but I was not able to locate it. The latest version of xemacs (formerly lemacs) mentions that it has a tcl-mode built in. Use (add-hook 'tcl-mode-hook 'turn-on-font-lock) to turn on color highliting. Donal K. Fellows <URL: mailto:fellowsd@cs.man.ac.uk > has an extra elisp library at <URL: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/%7Efellowsd/tcl/#fontlock > which provides enhanced syntax highlighting (font lock). An alternative URL mentioned was <URL: http://r8h.cs.man.ac.uk:800/tcl/ >. Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <URL: mailto:larsi@ifi.uio.no > has written Expect functionality in an elisp package. It is going to be included in Emacs in a future release. Email the contact about details. David Schweikert <URL: mailto:dwschwei@stud.ee.ethz.ch > has written a tcl/tk mode for JED. You can download it at: <URL: http://www.ee.ethz.ch/%7Edwschwei/jed/tclmode.sl >. Other editors have syntax highlighting for Tcl. For instance CRISP, GWD <URL: http://www.gwdsoft.com/ >, and some vi-based editors are frequently mentioned. Also there is moonshine, which can be found at <URL: http://www.rednecksoft.com/ >. jEdit is a Java based Open Source text editor which has Tcl syntax highlighting amount its features. See <URL: http://www.jedit.org/ > for more details.
From: -XI- Where can I get these packages and what tutorial information is available? Subject: -E- The tk toolbox project (obsolete) The Tk Toolbox & Toolchest project. The Toolchest consisted of convenience routines for Tcl and Tk - a kind of a ibc for Tcl. The toolchest was a collection of commonly used code and some specialized code such as file selectors, dialogs that take care of keyboard traversal through items automatically, etc. Unfortunately, the development effort has currently come to a stop on this project and it is not yet known when it will be started again. There was, at one point in the past, a mailing list for discussion of the tk toolbox, kindly provided by Ari Lemmke. To subscribe, one wrote a message with the line: X-Mn-Admin: join tktools in the body or header of the message, and sent this message to <URL: mailto:linux-activists-request@niksula.cs.hut.fi > . Then to write to the list, messages were sent to <URL: mailto:linux-activists@niksula.cs.hut.fi > with the line X-Mn-Key: TKTOOLS added to the header or the body of the message. One especially had to remember this step when replying to messages from the list. For more info about the list server (mailnet), one sent an empty message to <URL: mailto:linux-activists-request@niksula.cs.hut.fi > . Intermediate snapshots were announced on this mailing list. If you had problems or were willing to donate code or whatever, you could contact the code maintainer (one of the three main implementors) at <URL: mailto:tlukka@snakemail.hut.fi > or <URL: mailto:lukka@helsinki.fi > .
From: -XI- Where can I get these packages and what tutorial information is available? Subject: -F- [tv]grind definitions for tcl/tk/expect <URL: mailto:M.T.Hamilton@lut.ac.uk > (Martin Hamilton) has come up with a preliminary grindcap definition for Tcl, Tk and expect. These are available as <URL: ftp://ftp.procplace.com/pub/tcl/sorted/packages-7.6/print/vgrind.defs >. <URL: mailto:andyr@wizzy.com > (Andy Rabagliati) has come up with a preliminary grindcap definition for Tcl. Contact him for more details.
From: -XI- Where can I get these packages and what tutorial information is available? Subject: -G- BNF style notation for Tcl <URL: mailto:tb06@CS2.cc.lehigh.edu > (TERRENCE MONROE BRANNON) in July of 1993, posted some yacc code for a tcl-to-c parser. This, along with Adam Sah's Tcl compiler, are a couple of sources with which folk could start.
From: -XI- Where can I get these packages and what tutorial information is available? Subject: -H- Tcl/Tk Quick Reference Guides Paul E Raines (<URL: mailto:raines@slac.stanford.edu > has writen some quick reference guides for Tcl. You may find the web page for them at <URL: http://www.slac.stanford.edu/%7Eraines/tkref.html >. He has versions for Tcl 7.4, 7.5, 8.0, and Tk 8.4.3 . The tar files contain the TeX and PostScript versions of a 3 column listing of all widget methods and options and summaries of the wm, winfo, pack, place and bind commands. This material is based on work done by Jeff Tranter <URL: mailto:tranter@pobox.com > to code up quick reference information in TeX. Dave Bodenstab <mailto:imdave1@mindspring.com > is working on an updated version (Tcl/Tk 8.4.3) of Paul and Jeff's work. It can be found at <URL: http://www.bodenstab.org/files/tkref-8.4.3.tgz >. Ron Patterson has created a TealInfo-based Palm Pilot Quick Reference guide <URL: http://www.palmgear.com/software/showsoftware.cfm?prodID=2532 > which requires the shareware TealInfo application from <URL: http://www.tealpoint.com/ > .
From: -XI- Where can I get these packages and what tutorial information is available? Subject: -I- Hilit 19 Tcl mode AI. Aaron Roydhouse <URL: mailto:aaron@comp.vuw.ac.nz > wrote, and <URL: mailto:Julian.Anderson@comp.vuw.ac.nz > (Julian Anderson) posted, the following: (hilit-set-mode-patterns 'tcl-mode '(("\\s #.*$" nil comment) ("^#.*$" nil comment) ("\"[^\\\"]*\\(\\\\\\(.\\|\n\\)[^\\\"]*\\)*\"" nil string) ("\\$[-_a-zA-Z]+" nil varref) ("^source.*$" nil include) ("\\b\\(global\\|upvar\\)\\b" nil decl) ("\\b\\(error\\|debug\\)\\b" nil decl) ("^\\s *proc\\s +\\(\\w\\|[_']\\)+" nil defun) ("\\b\\(set\\|lset\\|list\\|if\\|case\\|while\\|switch\\|then\\|else\\| for\\|foreach\\|return\\|expr\\|catch\\)\\b" nil keyword))) Dwight Shih <URL: mailto:dwight@crl.com > later posted the following font lock mode: (defvar tcl-font-lock-keywords (list (list (concat "\\b\\(" (mapconcat 'identity '("set" "lset" "list" "if" "case" "while" "switch" "then" "else" "for" "foreach" "return" "expr" "catch" "puts" "proc" "trace") "\\|") "\\)\\b") 1 'font-lock-keyword-face t) (list (concat "\\b\\(" (mapconcat 'identity '("global" "upvar" "uplevel" "error" "debug") "\\|") "\\)\\b") 1 'font-lock-type-face t) (list "^\\s *proc\\s +\\(\\(\\w\\|[_']\\)+\\)" 1 'font-lock-function-name-fac e t)) "keywords for tcl-mode") (defun font-lock-set-defaults () "Set `font-lock-keywords' to something appropriate for this mode." (setq font-lock-keywords (cond ((eq major-mode 'lisp-mode) lisp-font-lock-keywords) ((eq major-mode 'emacs-lisp-mode) lisp-font-lock-keywords) ((eq major-mode 'c-mode) c-font-lock-keywords) ((eq major-mode 'c++-c-mode) c-font-lock-keywords) ((eq major-mode 'c++-mode) c++-font-lock-keywords) ((eq major-mode 'tex-mode) tex-font-lock-keywords) ((eq major-mode 'perl-mode) perl-font-lock-keywords) ((eq major-mode 'tcl-mode) tcl-font-lock-keywords) ((eq major-mode 'texinfo-mode) texi-font-lock-keywords) (t nil)))) Donal K. Fellows <URL: mailto:fellowsd@cs.man.ac.uk > also has provided <URL: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/%7Efellowsd/tcl/tcl-font.el > which provides better colorization of Tcl, recognizing Tcl comments more frequently. See <URL: http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?TclMode > for information regarding XEmacs's tcl.el and GNU EMACS 20.[47].1 .
From: -XI- Where can I get these packages and what tutorial information is available? Subject: -J- HTML versions of Tcl man pages and FAQ. Tom Phelps <URL: mailto:phelps@cs.berkeley.edu > has written a program which allows one to translate formatted man pages into many formats, including HTML. (See "part4") for details on RosettaMan/PolyglotMan. There is a frame based version of the Tcl/Tk man pages at <URL: http://www.tcltk.com/TclTkMan/TclTkManPages.html >. Also at the same site is a keyword cross reference. An official home for the man pages for Tcl 7.5/Tk 4.1, Tcl 7.6/Tk 4.2 and Tcl 8.x/Tk 8.x can be found at <URL: http://tcl.activestate.com/man/ > or <URL: http://tcl.activestate.com/resource/doc/manual/ >. For instance, at <URL: http://tcl.activestate.com/man/tcl8.1/contents.htm > is Tcl 8.1 man pages. These are also available at <URL: http://www.elf.org/tcl8.0.tar.gz >. <URL: http://www.gnt.net/%7En5ial/Tcl/ > is a set of indexes for the man pages, created by Jim Graham <URL: mailto:jim@n5ial.gnt.net >. Another set of Tcl documentation is available at <URL: http://gardiner.ucolick.org/opt/tcl/tclX8.0.4/tcl/help/tcl/ >. A set of the Tcl/Tk 8.0 man pages translated to Russian is avaiable at the following pages: Ms Windows <URL: http://www.florin.ru/win/tcl-tk/I_gu10.htm > KOI-8 <URL: http://www.florin.ru/koi/tcl-tk/I_gu10.htm > IBM 866, Alternative <URL: http://www.florin.ru/alt/tcl-tk/I_gu10.htm > ISO <URL: http://www.florin.ru/iso/tcl-tk/I_gu10.htm > A PDF version of the Tcl/Tk man pages can be found at <URL: ftp://tcl.activestate.com/pub/tcl/doc/ >. Versions of Tcl/Tk docs can also be found at <URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tcldocs/files/ > where one can find the docs in PDF or Windows cfm format. The docs are available in either strictly Tcl/Tk 8.4.4 format, or extended docs, including Tcllib and a number of other extensions and useful information. The author makes these available at <URL: http://www.dgroth.de/ >. Also, <URL: http://www.dgroth.de/tcl8.4.4/ > is a Java/HTML version of the documentation.
From: -XI- Where can I get these packages and what tutorial information is available? Subject: -K- Japanese translation of Tk 3.6 manuals Toshiya Kitayama <URL: mailto:kitayama@sra.co.jp > and nakaya@sra.co.jp have made a Japanese translation of Tk 3.6 manual pages except pack-old.n available at <URL: ftp://ftp.sra.co.jp/pub/lang/tcl/jp/tk3.6jp.man.tar.gz >. If you have questions or comments, send them to <URL: mailto:tcl-jp-bugs@sra.co.jp >.
From: -XI- Where can I get these packages and what tutorial information is available? Subject: -L- Latex styles for the Tcl/Tk Workshop 94. Yasuro Kawata <URL: mailto:yasuro@maekawa.is.uec.ac.jp > released the Latex styles as well as a sample document and sample .dvi file to the news group. Contact this user directly for a copy.
From: -XI- Where can I get these packages and what tutorial information is available? Subject: -M- Tcl References for various platforms o Duane Murphy <URL: mailto:duane_murphy@wc_smtp_knet.WC.Novell.com > provided a way for Macintosh users to access the information regarding Tcl built-in commands via a tool known as ZigRef. It can be found at <URL: ftp://hitchhiker.space.lockheed.com/pub/TCL/ >. This version corresponds to Tcl 7.3. o A commercial tutorial available online can be found at <URL: http://www.skillshare.com/skillshare/dr/tcl/mod1.html >. Note that this is a commercial project - see the page for details of cost. o A PostScript version of the tcl7.6p2/tk4.2p2 manual pages (with page numbers, generated Table of Contents as well as index) have been uploaded to neosoft. You will find the following files in <URL: ftp://ftp.procplace.com/pub/tcl/sorted/info/man/ >. tcl7.6p2-tk4.2p2-man-2ps.README # README for the double sided PS file. tcl7.6p2-tk4.2p2-man-2ps.tar.gz # The double sided PostScript files. README # The same as the README above. tcl.ps # The user's manual pages (388 pages/194 sheets of paper) tcl-c.ps # The C interface manual pages (342 pages/171 sheets of paper) tcl7.6p2-tk4.2p2-man-1ps.README # README for the single sided PS file. tcl7.6p2-tk4.2p2-man-1ps.tar.gz # The single sided PostScript files. README # The same as the README above. tcl.ps # The user's manual pages (299 pages/sheets of paper) tcl-c.ps # The C interface manual pages (251 pages/sheets of paper) o Postscript (both one and two up) and PDF versions of Tcl/Tk 8.4.1 man pages are available from Glenn Herteg < mailto:eponymousalias@yahoo.com > .
From: -XI- Where can I get these packages and what tutorial information is available? Subject: -N- The "How do I speed up a Tcl/Tk application" doc <URL: ftp://ftp.procplace.com/pub/tcl/sorted/packages-7.6/info/doc/speedup.doc.gz > is a text document with examples on how to speed up Tcl 6.x/Tk 3.x application performance. Thanks to Stephen O. Lidie <URL: mailto:lusol@turkey.cc.lehigh.edu > for the work! Another document on this subject can be found at <URL: http://ptolemy.eecs.berkeley.edu/tycho/tycho0.2/tycho0.2/doc/coding/performance.html >. Yet another document on Tcl performance can be found at <URL: http://purl.org/tcl/wiki/TclPerformance >.
From: -XI- Where can I get these packages and what tutorial information is available? Subject: -O- http files without a WWW client The following information has been gathered from a variety of sources. Within the various Tcl FAQs there are references to items in the form of <URL: http://www.w3.org/hypertext/WWW/MarkUp/html-spec/html-spec.txt >. These are in a form which are useful to WorldWideWeb (WWW) clients. But for those unable to use WWW for some reason, there is a modicum of relief. To access these files via email: 1. Address a message to: <URL: mailto:webmail@www.ucc.ie > 2. There is no need for a Subject: line. 3. In the body of the message, type: GO http://www.w3.org/hypertext/WWW/MarkUp/html-spec/html-spec.txt 4. Any URL can be substituted for the sample above. Eventually you should get back the file in question. 5. The only restriction is this serves text (HTML and plain) by HTTP only, no graphics, and no FTP. For more information about accessing internet files via e-mail, pick up a copy of the following document: "INTERNET BY-EMAIL" Summary: This guide will show you how to retrieve files from FTP sites, explore the Internet via Gopher, search for information with Archie, Veronica, or WAIS, tap into the World-Wide Web (WWW), and even access Usenet newsgroups using E-MAIL AS YOUR ONLY TOOL. This document is now available from several automated mail servers. To get the latest edition, send e-mail to one of the addresses below. To: <URL: mailto:listserv@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu > (for US/Canada/etc.) Leave Subject blank, and enter only this line in the body of the note: GET INTERNET BY-EMAIL NETTRAIN F=MAIL To: <URL: mailto:mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu > (for Eastern US) Leave Subject blank, and enter only this line in the body of the note: send usenet/news.answers/internet-services/access-via-email To: <URL: mailto:mailbase@mailbase.ac.uk > (for UK/Europe/etc.) Leave Subject blank, and enter only this line in the body of the note: send lis-iis e-access-inet.txt You can also get the file at <URL: ftp://ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu/NETTRAIN/ >, <URL: ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/internet-services/ >, <URL: ftp://ftp.mailbase.ac.uk/pub/lists/lis-iis/files/ > Note this file is available in over 30 languages. For the list of translations, send email to <URL: mailto:BobRankin@MHV.net > with Subject: send list as the subject of the message. Sometimes, folk ask how to post to usenet via email. Here's what I have seen mentioned: To post, use an e-mail->Usenet gateway. Send an a e-mail messages to {newsgroup}@{servername}. For example, to post to comp.lang.tcl through nic.funet.fi, address your mail to <URL: mailto:comp.lang.tcl@nic.funet.fi >. Here are a few e-mail->Usenet gateways that have been reported. A recent email indicates that none of these may be operational any longer. group.name@news.demon.co.uk group.name@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu group.name@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca group.name@nic.funet.fi group.name.usenet@decwrl.dec.com
From: -XI- Where can I get these packages and what tutorial information is available? Subject: -P- The patch and gzip commands, along with other useful utilities The patch command is used to apply updates to a source package. It assumes that you have the previous version of the source package in an uncompressed format as well as a file containing one or more modifications that need to be applied to the original code. The GNU project's version of the patch command is the one most commonly used on USENET. The primary archive for this project is <URL: ftp://prep.ai.mit.edu/pub/gnu/ >. You will find the source code located at this FTP site. Source code for the gzip package, a very common compression format used on Unix (files compressed with gzip typically end in either .gz or .tgz), can be found at this site as well. For binary versions of either of these programs, you will have to search what ever the appropriate archive sites are for your machine. First, get a version of patch and compile and install it. Then you might follow a hypothetical scenario such as this: The tcl8.3/README says "apply them to the source directory"! $ mkdir /usr/tcl83 # Pick this directory as appropriate $ cd /usr/tcl83 $ mv $HOME/tcl8.3.0.tar.gz /usr/tcl83/. $ mv $HOME/tcl8.3.1.patch.gz $HOME/tcl8.3.2.patch.gz /usr/tcl83/. $ mv $HOME/tcl8.3.3.patch.gz /usr/tcl83/. $ gzip -d < $PWD/tcl8.3.0.tar.gz | tar xvf - $ cd tcl8.3 $ gzip -d < ../tcl8.3.1.patch.gz | patch -p1 $ gzip -d < ../tcl8.3.2.patch.gz | patch -p1 $ gzip -d < ../tcl8.3.3.patch.gz | patch -p1 $ $PWD/configure --prefix=/usr/tcl83 $ make $ make test $ make install assuming your *.gz files all reside in your $HOME directory initially. This ends up creating a /usr/tcl83/bin, include, and lib directory. The binary program tclsh8.3 goes into /usr/tcl83/bin . If you already have gunzip-ed the files in a different directory (such as /usr/tcl83/patch/), you could use them like this: $ cd /usr/tcl83/tcl8.3 $ patch -p < ../patch/tcl8.3.1.patch You will get messages from patch ("hmm, this looks like" and "hunk #n succeeded") which will scroll off your screen quite fast. One user has suggested that if you are using Unix, you can use the script command to keep all of the output in a log file which you can then peruse later. You should not get rejected, failed, or wrong version messages. If you get those types of messages, you may have missed a patch that needed to be made, or may be attempting to patch a version of the files not intended to be patched, or may be in an incorrect directory, or using a bad version of patch. If the patch is being applied later, you will want to execute a "make clean" before the make without arguments, to be sure that you have gotten rid of any files which need to be recreated during the install process. You need to be careful as well trying to perform make on different machines - if you have to switch computers between makes, you should execute a "make distclean" followed by another configure command. This ensures that the various assumptions made by the configuration program are accurate. Another alternative would be to create different subdirectories for each hardware/software platform on which you build the tcl binaries. Also, be aware that most patches to date have been built expecting patch version 2.1. Patch version 2.2 thru 2.3 at least, and perhaps version 2.4, have had incompatibilities that may fail in peculiar ways. Also note that at least Solaris 2.5.1 comes with a patch command quite a bit older than 2.1, and it too is incompatibile with many patch files, causing many different kinds of failures. Another command to which <URL: news:comp.lang.tcl > users sometimes are referred is a command history filter. These are programs which sit between the user's shell and a program and attempt to provide a history mechanism to commands which have no such capability. The most frequently mentioned of these programs is "ile". The master site for the newest version of ile is <URL: ftp://ftp.inria.fr/system/user/lile-2.0.tar.z >. Another commonly referred command history program is "fep". The master ftp site for the source code for it is <URL: ftp://ftp.sra.co.jp/pub/cmd/ >. A useful place to begin looking for source code for these and other programs is <URL: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/ > and its mirrors. A WWW site for this would be <URL: http://www.freebsd.org/ >. Windows users have begun asking how to format and display the man pages which come with Tcl, Tk and other applications. One recently recommended tool was CAWF. Cawf v1.0 is a C version of the nroff-like "Amazingly Workable (text) Formatter. Source & executables are available at various DOS software archives such as <URL: http://www.execnet.com/ >. With cawf, it seems likely you could format the raw nroff into text. Another alternative might be <URL: http://web.dcs.bbk.ac.uk/%7Emick/html/ > which is a Perl script which formats raw roff codes into formatted output. <URL: http://www.parallax.co.uk/%7Erolf/download/manServer.html > is another of this genre - perl scripts which convert man pages to html without using nroff. <URL: http://www-rn.informatik.uni-bremen.de/software/unroff/ > is a Scheme package which translates *roff documents into HTML. Then, you could go to <URL: http://www.oac.uci.edu/indiv/ehood/ > and pick up the man2html, which will take the formatted files produced and generate HTML. Or you could get RosettaMan , which is a part of the TkMan suite. In the tknt package (which was a port of Tcl/Tk/Tcl-DP/BLT/incr tcl to Windows NT, there was included a man2hlp.zip file containing the free source for a utility which converted the Tcl man pages into WinHelp pages. There are of course commercial packages that folk will be willing to sell you for this purpose as well. The package <URL: ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/gnu/djgpp/v2gnu/ > has a README which begins: This is a port of GNU Groff version 1.10 to DJGPP v2.01 or later. It appears to work even under MSDOS, not just Win*. Find the home page for DJGPP at <URL: http://www.delorie.com/djgpp/ >. Another user suggestions locating a package called DOS/DPMI from a simtel mirror site to find Windows versions of man.exe and groff. To extract files from gzip'd tar files while using Windows, see Winzip <URL: http://www.winzip.com/ >. I believe there is a free alternative - perhaps someone will let me know about it. <URL: http://www.edv.agrar.tu-muenchen.de/~syring/win32/UnxUtils.html > is a distribution of common GNU utilities ported to native Win32. Another useful utility, this time for the Macintosh folk, is suntar, which can extract files from a tar file. I have seen notes indicating that Tcl and Tk can be compiled using the gcc free compiler in unix as well as Win32 (EGCS, FSF, cygwin32, mingw32) environments. Also, Win32's lcc should work. See <URL: http://www.xraylith.wisc.edu/%7Ekhan/software/gnu-win32/ > <URL: http://www.xraylith.wisc.edu/%7Ekhan/software/tcl/ > <URL: http://www.cygnus.com/misc/gnu-win32/ > <URL: http://sourceware.cygnus.com/cygwin/ > <URL: http://www.cs.virginia.edu/%7Elcc-win32 > <URL: ftp://ftp.franken.de/pub/win32/develop/gnuwin32/mingw32/porters/Mikey/ > <URL: ftp://ftp.freesoftware.com/pub/sourceware/cygwin/latest/ > <URL: ftp://ftp.yggdrasil.com/mirrors/site/sourceware.cygnus.com/pub/cygwin/latest/ > <URL: ftp://ftp.freesoftware.com/pub/sourceware/cygwin/latest/ > <URL: http://www.hwaci.com/sw/mktclapp/win32-compile.html > <URL: http://www.mingw.org/ > <URL: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/mingw/MinGW-1.1.tar.gz > In gnu-win32 directory on cygnus, fetch either usertools.exe for the user level Unix-like tools, or cde.exe for the complete C development environment. At the sourceware web site, pick the full.exe file to install a full development environment. Many users mention using the bash shell or other similar shells on their Windows machines, so that they can get a mechanism similar to #! on Unix for launching their scripts. Be sure that you understand <URL: http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/faq/faq_9.html#SEC145 > very well, perhaps even discussing it with a lawyer, before using cygwin to produce software you wish to sell. Nothing there prevents you from doing this - however, there are a variety of considerations that one needs to make, when using tools some of which are covered by the GPL. Some users ask about additional sources of icons to use. One person suggests <URL: http://www.ibm.com/IBM/hci/resources/icons/icons.html >. Emacs can convert Tcl code into HTML using the M-x htmlize-buffer command on an Emacs buffer full of Tcl. This requires Hrvoje Niksic's htmlize.el package. Contact Emil Astrom <URL: mailto:emil@sics.se > if you need help locating the package. At least one user has recommended "Noweb" as a program for building documentation into your Tcl application. See <URL: http://www.cs.virginia.edu/%7Enr/noweb/intro.html > for more details. If you visit <URL: http://www.cs.wisc.edu/%7Eghost/ >, you will find pointers to source and binary distributions (Linux, Windows, MacOS, other) of PostScript viewing software, useful for viewing a variety of PostScript versions of man pages, Tcl reference manuals, etc. If you visit <URL: http://www.adobe.com/ > you can find a number of binary versions of acroread, which is a PDF viewer useful for some of the other reference documents. One Windows NT tool occasionally mentioned is the kill command found <URL: http://phoenix.liu.edu/~mdevi/util/page1.htm > . This is another set of NT tools that includes a kill: <URL: http://www.itribe.net/virtunix/files/unix95.7.zip >.
From: -XI- Where can I get these packages and what tutorial information is available? Subject: -Q- Source code from published books The source code from Brent Welch's book can be found at <URL: ftp://ftp.prenhall.com/pub/software/welch/ >. The source code from John Ousterhout's book can be found at <URL: ftp://tcl.activestate.com/pub/tcl/doc/ >. The source code from Don Libes' book can be found with the expect source code itself. (See "part04") for more details. The source code from Harrison and McLennan's Effective Tcl: Writing Better Programs in Tcl and Tk book can be found at <URL: http://www.awl.com/cseng/titles/0-201-63474-0/efftcl-ex.tar.Z >. The source code from Harrison's Tcl/Tk Tools can be found at <URL: ftp://ftp.oreilly.com/pub/examples/power_tools/tclt/ >. The examples from D. Tveter's "Pattern Recognition Basis of Artificial Intelligence" was recently moved to <URL: http://www.dontveter.com/nnsoft/bp.tar.gz >. The examples from Doyle and Schroeder's Interactive Web Applications with Tcl/Tk can be found at <URL: http://www.eolas.com/tcl/ >.
From: -XI- Where can I get these packages and what tutorial information is available? Subject: -R- Documentation relating to Perl's Tk interface A PostScript format overview of Perl's Tk interface is available from <URL: ftp://mox.perl.com/pub/perl/ext/TK/ >. A remedial course in perl/Tk, based on the mini-scripts distributed in the UserGuide.pod file, can be found at <URL: http://w4.lns.cornell.edu/%7Epvhp/ptk/pod/ >. The perl/Tk <URL: news:comp.lang.perl.tk > proto-FAQ can be found at <URL: http://phaseit.net/claird/comp.lang.perl.tk/ptkFAQ.html > This is maintained by <URL: mailto:Cameron@Lairds.com > Cameron Laird. John Stoffel <URL: mailto:john@WPI.EDU > wrote some thoughts comparing Malcom Beatties tcl/tk perl extension and pTk (perl/Tk). This can be found at <URL: http://pubweb.bnl.gov/%7Eptk/ > along with the rest of the mailing list comments, code samples, help, etc. <URL: mailto:jefpin@bergen.org > has written up information about pTk (Perl/Tk) in a book or reference manual format. It is available at <URL: http://www.crusoe.net/%7Ejeffp/PERL/ >. Stephen O. Lidie <URL: mailto:Stephen.O.Lidie@lehigh.edu > has obtained permission to republish the very first Perl/Tk article to appear in The Perl Journal <URL: http://tpj.com/ >. You can find "Perl and the Tk Extension", aimed towards the Perl/Tk beginner, at <URL: http://www.Lehigh.EDU/sol0/ptk/ >. All sample source code can be found at <URL: http://tpj.com/ > by selecting the Programs link on this page. A Perl/Tk reference card can be found at <URL: http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/LUSOL/ >. It covers pTk 800.005 . Olivier Bouteille <bouteille@dial.oleane.com > has offered to make available texinfo formatted documentation for Tk 800.011. Email him for details. Texinfo files for Tcl/Tk have been created by <URL: mailto:chen@posc.org > and can be found at <URL: http://members.tripod.com/gchen2/tcl-info/ >.
From: -XI- Where can I get these packages and what tutorial information is available? Subject: -S- Tutorials on various subjects Warning: Several of the following sites, unfortunate, do not seem to be kept up to date with regards to ftp site URLs, reflecting code from the current versions of Tcl, etc. There are often questions concerning X security, in particular relating to Tk's default requirment to refuse to perform send actions when the user is using xhost rather than xauth for his/her security. See <URL: http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/documents/ciac2316.html > for a tutorial on X security. Also see <URL: http://www.ice.ru/%7Evitus/works/x11.html > Vivek Khera <URL: mailto:khera@cs.duke.edu > has written a primer on setting up your environment for xauth (by default a requirement under Tk 3.3) in the document <URL: ftp://ftp.procplace.com/pub/tcl/sorted/packages-7.6/misc/Xauthority.gz > (or <URL: ftp://ftp.procplace.com/pub/tcl/sorted/misc/Xauthority >. Kevin Kenny <URL: mailto:kennykb@acm.org > has also written a series of documents on how to resolve various xauth situations. See <URL: http://purl.org/tcl/wiki/ > for details. See also <URL: http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/documents/ciac2316.html#2.0 > . Nat Pryce <URL: mailto:np2@doc.ic.ac.uk > has begun a project to collect Tcl programming idioms or patterns. See <URL: http://www-dse.doc.ic.ac.uk/%7Enp2/patterns/tcl/ > for the root of this document. See <URL: http://www-dse.doc.ic.ac.uk/%7Enp2/patterns/scripting/tcl/ > is another document he has on a similar topic. Nat has also written instructions on better integrating Tcl/Tk scripts with the Windows NT shell. See <URL: http://outoften.doc.ic.ac.uk/%7Enp2/software/tcl-setup.html > for the details. Frank Pilhofer <URL: mailto:fp@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de > has written an article on getting dynamic extensions written in C++ to work. It can be found at <URL: http://www.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de/%7Efp/Tcl/tcl-c++/ > in various formats. The text only covers Unix issues. Cameron Laird <URL: mailto:Cameron@Lairds.com > has written a number of extremely useful Web pages full of tips for Tcl programmers. Start at <URL: http://phaseit.net/claird/comp.lang.tcl/ > and look through the pages there. For instance, at <URL: http://phaseit.net/claird/comp.lang.tcl/tcl_compilers.html > you will find an article discussing Tcl compilers. At <URL: http://phaseit.net/claird/comp.lang.tcl/tcl-examples.html > you will find various examples of Tcl coding examples. The <URL: http://phaseit.net/claird/comp.lang.tcl/HowToC.html > page provides pointers and info on "how to use C with Tcl". There are many other useful pages for Tcl programmers found here. Also, take a look at <URL: http://phaseit.net/claird/comp.software-eng/remediation.html > which covers the considerations that should be taken when modularizing one's code. At <URL: http://phaseit.net/claird/comp.unix.programmer/linking-unix.html > you will find discussions relating to the various problems relating to linking programs under the various Unix platforms. Cameron has begun <URL: http://phaseit.net/claird/comp.lang.tcl/tcl_tutorials.html > which covers his personal notes on online tcl tutorials and that he recommends. A brief introductory tutorial to Tcl/Tk can be found at <URL: http://http2.brunel.ac.uk:8080/%7Ecsstddm/TCL2/TCL2.html >. Another one is available at <URL: http://www.pconline.com/%7Eerc/tcl.htm >. Yet another tutorial is a software package that is downloadable. See <URL: http://www.msen.com/%7Eclif/TclTutor.html > for the details. It covers Tcl 7.6, 8.0, 8.1 on Unix, Windows 95/NT and Macintosh. A tutorial from 1994 is located at <URL: http://www.decus.org/decus/papers/tcl.html >. Another tutorial, on Tcl and Tk in 5 easy lessions, can be found at <URL: http://herzberg.ca.sandia.gov/TclCourse/ >. You can check out the first module to a Tcl/Tk class, which is available at a price from the author, at <URL: http://www.skillshare.com/skillshare/dr/tcl/mod1.html >. An online "cookbook", which is a great resource, can be found at <URL: http://www.itd.clrc.ac.uk/Publications/Cookbook/ >. A brief tutorial on Tcl, Tk, and Expect can be found at <URL: ftp://ftp.lgc.com/landmark/users/papers/WMorse/ >. This was written by Will Morse <URL: mailto:will@Starbase.NeoSoft.com >. Another Tcl presentation appeared at <URL: http://kiwi.emse.fr/JJG/TCL/tcl.html >. A third appears at <URL: http://slsun2.epfl.ch/LOGICIELS/TclTk/COURS/TclTk_cours.html >. There is at least one another link at <URL: http://www.lisi.ensma.fr/members/grolleau/tcltk/ > These three last tutorials are still alive (at least today), and seem to cover Tcl7.x and TK4.x. Foils from a Tcl/Tk class taught in German by M.Boltes <URL: mailto:m.boltes@fz-juelich.de > was found under <URL: http://www.kfa-juelich.de/zam/newsevents/courses/Folien.html >. There also appears to be one or more German Tcl related postscript documents at <URL: http://www.kfa-juelich.de/zam/docs/Folien.html >. Materials from a course taught at the University of Chicago can be found at <URL: http://www.lib.uchicago.edu/keith/tcl-course/tcl-course.html >. Tom Tromey <URL: mailto:tromey@cygnus.com > has provided his Tcl style guide at <URL: http://drip.colorado.edu/%7Etromey/tcl-style-guide.html >. John Ousterhout has written an engineering style guide that describes the coding, documentation, and testing conventions that will be used at Sun in the coding of the C code in the Tcl core and has graciously made it available to other Tcl/Tk developers. It is located at <URL: ftp://tcl.activestate.com/pub/tcl/doc/ > and <URL: http://tcl.activestate.com/doc/engManual.ps >. A second style guide, covering the writing of Tcl scripts, can be found at <URL: ftp://tcl.activestate.com/pub/tcl/docs/ > and <URL: http://tcl.activestate.com/doc/styleGuide.pdf >. A tutorial titled "User interfaces with Tcl/Tk" can be found at <URL: http://www.scism.sbu.ac.uk/tkteach/ >. It was written by Fintan Culwin <URL: mailto:fintan@sbu.ac.uk >. A tutorial covering SCO's Visual Tcl can be found at <URL: http://www.computronics.be/courses/vtcl/CONTENTS.html >. A brief tutorial on Tcl can be found at <URL: http://www.python.org/doc/life-preserver/BriefTclTk.html >. This is a portion of the Python Tkinter Life preserver documentation which can be found at <URL: http://www.python.org/doc/life-preserver/ >. The beginnings of an intro to Python/Tkinter can be found at <URL: http://www.pythonware.com/fredrik/tkdraft/ >. A short manual on Tcl (cira 1994) in Japanese was found at <URL: http://ai-www.aist-nara.ac.jp/doc/documents/kenji-i/tcl.html >. Another non-English introduction to Tcl can be found at <URL: http://www.etsimo.uniovi.es/dptos/epm/pi/gedop/intrtcl.html > and at <URL: http://www.etsimo.uniovi.es/tcl/tutorial/ >. Mac Cody <URL: mailto:macody@swbell.net > has the syllabus from a Tcl class he has conducted available online at <URL: http://www.dfw.net/%7Emcody/syllabus/syllabus.html >. Jean-Claude Wippler <URL: mailto:jcw@equi4.com > has written a tutorial on how to use a Tcl extension. See <URL: http://www.equi4.com/jcw/extuse.html > for pointers to his work. A small Expect tutorial is at <URL: http://www.decus.org/decus/papers/tcl.html >. A guide to some of the criteria in making particular program design decisions can be found at <URL: http://purl.org/tcl/wiki/297.html >. Its author is Alexandre Ferrieux <URL: mailto:alexandre.ferrieux@cnet.francetelecom.fr >. A Tcl-Java tutorial can be found at <URL: http://ptolemy.eecs.berkeley.edu/%7Ejohnr/tutorials/tcljava98/ >. This is the basis of a tutorial presented at the 1998 Tcl conference. There's a Tcl manual at <URL: http://udgftp.cencar.udg.mx/tutoriales/tcl/contenido/tcl2.html > but there was some concern about the accuracy of the info. There is a brief introduction to Tcl and Tk by the developer .com site at <URL: http://www.developer.com/reference/library/0672310120/html/ch30.htm >. This article appears to be related to Red Hat Linux Unleashed. and appears to have been written by Rick McMullin. A Linux Tcl-Tk-HOWTO can be found now at <URL: http://space.tin.it/computer/tlqhr/TclTk-HOWTO.html > Eventually it will appear at <URL: http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/ldp.html > and <URL: http://www.linux-howto.com > as well as many Linux mirror sites. It is a collection of documents describing how to use Tcl and Tk on a Linux system. A guide to using namespaces and packages is available at <URL: http://www.wjduquette.com/tcl/namespaces.html >. A guide to creating object commands can be found at <URL: http://www.wjduquette.com/tcl/objects.html >. A collection of "how to" guides is available at <URL: http://tcl.activestate.com/resource/doc/howto/ >. One recent one discusses the internationalization programming features of Tcl 8.x. >From the "Tcl/Tk for Programmers" book, find chapters on Tcl Basic syntax <URL: http://www.Mapfree.com/sbf/tcl/book/select/Html/2.html >, Regular Expressions <URL: http://www.Mapfree.com/sbf/tcl/book/select/Html/7.html >, Tk Way of Thinking <URL: http://www.Mapfree.com/sbf/tcl/book/select/Html/11.html >, Geometry Management <URL: http://www.Mapfree.com/sbf/tcl/book/select/Html/13.html >, and Browser Plugin <URL: http://www.Mapfree.com/sbf/tcl/book/select/Html/21.html >. See <URL: http://www.hwaci.com/sw/tcldoc/beta2.tar.gz > for the second public beta release of the XML sources for the core Tcl/Tk documentation. <URL: http://www.hwaci.com/sw/tcldoc/html/ > is the web site which discusses more about the effort. Also, see <URL: http://www.hwaci.com/sw/tcldoc/html/ > for web based versions of the Tcl and Tk man pages. Some more up to date work on this effort has been put on <URL: http://tmml.sourceforge.net/ >. See <URL: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/%7Efellowsd/tcl/option-tutorial.html > for a tutorial on the tk option command. Donal Fellows also has an article about getting the Tk send to work. See <URL: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/%7Efellowsd/tcl/secure.html >. See <URL: http://cscene.org/CS2/CS2-08.html > for an article on using Tcl as a scripting language for a C application. See <URL: http://6916.lcs.mit.edu/manuals/tcl/ > for _Tcl for Web Nerds_ - an online book by mailto:lsandon@mit.edu to provide basic Tcl information for someone using Tcl as a web programming language. <URL: http://www.cs.cornell.edu/Info/Projects/zeno/Tcl-DP/Tutorial/tutorial.html > is an introduction on the use of the Tcl-DP extension. A summary of the way that Tk makes uses of resources, from a perl/Tk perspective, can be found at <URL: http://www.sct.gu.edu.au/%7Eanthony/info/X/hints.Resources > The "Tcl for Web Nerds" resource at <URL: http://photo.net/teaching/manuals/tcl/ > provides an overview of Tcl. For information at building Tcl extension using Cygnus's Cygwin environment, take a look at <URL: http://www.flightlab.com/%7Ejoe/tcl/cygwin-howto.txt > <URL: http://tcl.activestate.com/support/howto/winext.html > <URL: http://tcl.activestate.com/support/howto/stubs.html > <URL: http://www.xraylith.wisc.edu/%7Ekhan/software/gnu-win32/ > <URL: http://sourceware.cygnus.com/cygwin/faq/faq_toc.html > A tutorial concerning linking with static tcl and tk libraries can be found at <URL: http://www.xmission.com/%7Egeorgeps/static-executables.html >. A tutorial on how to use Turkish letters with Tcl/Tk 8.2 can be found at <URL: http://home.germany.net/100/170561/turkbind.html >. A tutorial for Tcl and Tk can be found at <URL: http://hegel.ittc.ukans.edu/topics/tcltk/tutorial-noplugin/ >. A collection of web based Tcl/Tk tutorials can be found at <URL: http://ic.net/%7Ecflynt/realprog/tutorls.htm >. A tutorial discussing the use of Xlib to draw into a Tcl/Tk window can be found at <URL: http://www.xmission.com/~georgeps/Xlib_TclTk.html >.
From: -XI- Where can I get these packages and what tutorial information is available? Subject: -T- Unicode and other specialized fonts Chinese fonts: <URL: ftp://ftp.ifcss.org/pub/software/fonts/gb/hbf/ > ISO 10646-1 fonts: <URL: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/download/ucs-fonts.tar.gz >
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Mar 5, 2023 @ 7:19 pm
Regardless if you believe in God or not, this is a "must-read" message!!

Throughout history, we can see how we have been strategically conditioned coming to this point where we are on the verge of a cashless society. Did you know that the Bible foretold of this event almost 2,000 years ago?

In the book of Revelation 13:16-18, we read,

"He (the false prophet who deceives many by his miracles--Revelation 19:20) causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666."

Speaking to the last generation, this could only be speaking of a cashless society. Why so? Revelation 13:17 tells us that we cannot buy or sell unless we receive the mark of the beast. If physical money was still in use, we could buy or sell with one another without receiving the mark. This would contradict scripture that states we need the mark to buy or sell!

These verses could not be referring to something purely spiritual as scripture references two physical locations (our right hand or forehead) stating the mark will be on one "OR" the other. If this mark was purely spiritual, it would indicate both places, or one--not one OR the other!

This is where it comes together. It is amazing how accurate the Bible is concerning the implantable RFID microchip. Here are notes from someone named Carl Sanders who worked with a team of engineers to help develop this RFID chip:

"Carl Sanders sat in seventeen New World Order meetings with heads-of-state officials such as Henry Kissinger and Bob Gates of the C.I.A. to discuss plans on how to bring about this one-world system. The government commissioned Carl Sanders to design a microchip for identifying and controlling the peoples of the world—a microchip that could be inserted under the skin with a hypodermic needle (a quick, convenient method that would be gradually accepted by society).

Carl Sanders, with a team of engineers behind him, with U.S. grant monies supplied by tax dollars, took on this project and designed a microchip that is powered by a lithium battery, rechargeable through the temperature changes in our skin. Without the knowledge of the Bible (Brother Sanders was not a Christian at the time), these engineers spent one-and-a-half-million dollars doing research on the best and most convenient place to have the microchip inserted.

Guess what? These researchers found that the forehead and the back of the hand (the two places the Bible says the mark will go) are not just the most convenient places, but are also the only viable places for rapid, consistent temperature changes in the skin to recharge the lithium battery. The microchip is approximately seven millimeters in length, .75 millimeters in diameter, about the size of a grain of rice. It is capable of storing pages upon pages of information about you. All your general history, work history, criminal record, health history, and financial data can be stored on this chip.

Brother Sanders believes that this microchip, which he regretfully helped design, is the “mark” spoken about in Revelation 13:16–18. The original Greek word for “mark” is “charagma,” which means a “scratch or etching.” It is also interesting to note that the number 666 is actually a word in the original Greek. The word is “chi xi stigma,” with the last part, “stigma,” also meaning “to stick or prick.” Carl believes this is referring to a hypodermic needle when they poke into the skin to inject the microchip."

Mr. Sanders asked a doctor what would happen if the lithium contained within the RFID microchip leaked into the body. The doctor replied by saying a (...)
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Apr 5, 2023 @ 5:17 pm
Whether or not you believe in God, read this message!

All throughout time, we can see how we have been carefully conditioned coming to this point where we are on the verge of a cashless society. Did you know that Jesus foretold of this event almost 2,000 years ago?

In Revelation 13:16-18, we read,

"He (the false prophet who deceives many by his miracles--Revelation 19:20) causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666."

Speaking to the last generation, this could only be speaking of a cashless society. Why? Revelation 13:17 states that we cannot buy or sell unless we receive the mark of the beast. If physical money was still in use, we could buy or sell with one another without receiving the mark. This would contradict scripture that states we need the mark to buy or sell!

These verses could not be referring to something purely spiritual as scripture references two physical locations (our right hand or forehead) stating the mark will be on one "OR" the other. If this mark was purely spiritual, it would indicate both places, or one--not one OR the other!

This is where it comes together. It is amazing how accurate the Bible is concerning the implantable RFID microchip. These are notes from a man named Carl Sanders who worked with a team of engineers to help develop this RFID chip:

"Carl Sanders sat in seventeen New World Order meetings with heads-of-state officials such as Henry Kissinger and Bob Gates of the C.I.A. to discuss plans on how to bring about this one-world system. The government commissioned Carl Sanders to design a microchip for identifying and controlling the peoples of the world—a microchip that could be inserted under the skin with a hypodermic needle (a quick, convenient method that would be gradually accepted by society).

Carl Sanders, with a team of engineers behind him, with U.S. grant monies supplied by tax dollars, took on this project and designed a microchip that is powered by a lithium battery, rechargeable through the temperature changes in our skin. Without the knowledge of the Bible (Brother Sanders was not a Christian at the time), these engineers spent one-and-a-half-million dollars doing research on the best and most convenient place to have the microchip inserted.

Guess what? These researchers found that the forehead and the back of the hand (the two places the Bible says the mark will go) are not just the most convenient places, but are also the only viable places for rapid, consistent temperature changes in the skin to recharge the lithium battery. The microchip is approximately seven millimeters in length, .75 millimeters in diameter, about the size of a grain of rice. It is capable of storing pages upon pages of information about you. All your general history, work history, criminal record, health history, and financial data can be stored on this chip.

Brother Sanders believes that this microchip, which he regretfully helped design, is the “mark” spoken about in Revelation 13:16–18. The original Greek word for “mark” is “charagma,” which means a “scratch or etching.” It is also interesting to note that the number 666 is actually a word in the original Greek. The word is “chi xi stigma,” with the last part, “stigma,” also meaning “to stick or prick.” Carl believes this is referring to a hypodermic needle when they poke into the skin to inject the microchip."

Mr. Sanders asked a doctor what would happen if the lithium contained within the RFID microchip leaked into the body. The doctor replied by saying a terrible sore would appear in that location. This is w (...)

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