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Subject: Re: [ADMIN] This list has been upgraded to Lyris!
|Tue 1998-08-18 Dave Barr <barr@cis.ohio-state.edu> list.faq
| >I'm happy to announce that we have just upgraded this list to Lyris, the
| >list software which will carry us into the next generation of virtual
| >communities. It has a number of built-in features to make your life easier,
| >and is fully extensible so that we can write our own custom solutions to
| >meet your needs.
|
| To quote a somewhat famous hacker: "your software stinks and so do you".
|
| This list software stretches the boundaries of reason and Internet
| compliance. It's going to have to be heavily hacked on, or perhaps
| trashed altogether, in order to really have my vote.
|
| Reply-To: is set to the list, making personal replies impossible for
| many people without manual intervention. Get rid of Reply-To: and
| use Mail-Followup-To:. It's not an official standard (yet) but at
| least it's a correct solution.
I agree completely.
And in case Joshua needs more reference material to read, please consult:
29.8 Mail-Copies-To header
[Suggested by Lars, the Author of Emacs Gnus]
...Mail-Copies-To: is a header line used in messages on
Usenet to direct copies by email of followups to posts.
http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/rfc/mail-copies-to.html
[SL Baur <steve@xemacs.org>] The `Mail-Copies-To:' header should
control how your email (and Usenet) client prepares a followup
message. It gives control to the sender of a message whether
`courtesy' duplicate copies of messages should be sent.
There are two forms:
Mail-Copies-To: never
Do not automatically include the sender of the message being
responded to. There are two canonical examples.
Usenet:
From: foo@foo.bar
Newsgroups: comp.emacs.xemacs
Mail-Copies-To: never
A followup in a conforming client should generate in the response
message headers:
Newsgroups: comp.emacs.xemacs
Email:
From: foo@foo.bar
To: mailing-list@somewhere.com
Cc: luser@somewhereelse.com
Mail-Copies-To: never
A followup in a conforming client should generate in the response
message headers:
To: mailing-list@somewhere.com
Cc: luser@somewhereelse.com
The second form includes a properly formed RFC822 email address as
the parameter:
Mail-Copies-To: someaddress@somewhere.com
In this case, the sender of the message is specifically requesting
that responses to the message not only go to the main forum (either
mailing list or Usenet newsgroup), but a duplicate copy should also
be sent to `someaddress@somewhere.com'. There are (again) two
canonical examples.
Usenet:
From: foo@foo.bar
Newsgroups: comp.emacs.xemacs
Mail-Copies-To: foo@foo.bar
A followup in a conforming client should generate in the response
message headers:
Newsgroups: comp.emacs.xemacs
Cc: foo@foo.bar[1]
Email:
From: foo@foo.bar
To: mailing-list@somewhere.com
Cc: luser@somewhereelse.com
Mail-Copies-To: foo@foo.bar
A followup in a conforming client should generate in the response
message headers:
To: mailing-list@somewhere.com
Cc: luser@somewhereelse.com, foo@foo.bar[2]
There is no requirement that the address in
`Mail-Copies-To' match the `From' address. Footnotes: [1] Or `To:
foo@foo.bar' [2] It is also acceptable to put `foo@foo.bar' in the
To: line.
29.9 Mail-Followup-To and Reply-To-Personal headers
[21 Nov 1997, Mutt Development List <mutt-dev@cs.hmc.edu]
Jacob Palme just today submitted an Internet-Draft
describing Mail-Followup-To. Jacob, the Working Group chair Chris
Newman and I all regard this as complementary to my own
Reply-To-Personal proposal, an early version of which I posted here
and which was also submitted as an Internet-Draft just today. In
fact had me week been a bit less harried Jacob and I would have
issued a joint draft. Within a few days you should be able to view
these drafts in the IETF drafts directory on ds.internic.net under
the names
draft-ietf-drums-mail-followup-to-00.txt Jacob Palme's draft on the
proposed Mail-Followup-To header.
draft-ietf-drums-replyto-personal-00.txt My draft on
Personal-Reply-To
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