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is a bullmastiff a true fightng dog

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Question by dawg breeder
Submitted on 11/29/2003
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is a bullmastiff a true fightng dog


Answer by greenockaldo
Submitted on 1/9/2004
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as i said in the other thread-

a boerbol would have little chance against another large mastiff...like a fila for example...a boerbol is not a fighting dog...it is a guard dog...like the bull mastiff...these are not fighting dogs

fighting dogs are-

Shar Pei
Tosa Inu
Akita Inu
American Pit Bull Terrier
Staffordhire Bull Terrier(not the american staffy though)
Bull terrier

and several others...boerbol,rottweiler,bull mastiff- excellent guard dogs- not fighting dogs

however these dogs due to there size and power will a lot of the time maul a smaller fighting dog e.g. pittbull...i mean how can a 80lbs pitt compete with a 200+lbs monster...it wouldnt get a chance to out fight it...

boerbols do not take out leopards on there own...they may chase a leopard away...but if it came to a one on one fight a leopard would easily beat one normally

they use filas for hunting jaguars in south america...jaguars are pound for pound the most powerful big cat in the world...

filas easily go to weights of almost 250lbs- and thats all muscle...i would say they are the most likely to beat any dog in a pitt

 

Answer by smiley
Submitted on 3/16/2004
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is the american pittbull the top fighting dogs because they fight bears and will eat a tosa a filas a boerbol and akita for fun

 

Answer by G@SAIYN6.COM
Submitted on 4/17/2004
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NO BUT AN EXCELLENT GAURD DOG.I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO SAY THAT THE BIGGER THE DOG THE MORE SLOWER AND EXHAUSTED THE DOG WOULD BE ,ESPESCIALLY FIGHTING A DOG LIKE A PITBULL WHICH HAS HIGH STAMINA.WEIGHT AGAINST THESE DOGS DON'T COUNT AT ALL.TRUST ME I'VE SEEN IT PLENTY OF TIMES.AND NOT JUST IN THE USA.

 

Answer by adam 69
Submitted on 4/19/2004
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A BULLMASTIFF ALTHOUGH FEROCIOUS AS A GUARD ISN'T BUILT PROPERLY 4 FIGHTING. IT CAN WEIGH UPWARDS OF 200LBS AND MANOEOVERING THAT AGAINST A SWIFT PITT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT. AGAINST ANOTHER BIG DOG I FEEL THIS IS THE CHAMPION FIGHTER...HAVING 1 MYSELF AND SEEING WHAT HE CAN DO I CAN NEVER SEE A BULLY LOSING TO AN AKITA OR EVEN ROTTY

 

Answer by big
Submitted on 5/7/2004
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Bullmastiff is pound for pound the best guard dog or fighting dig it could take a rotty a fila a saintbernard doberman german shepherd and most likely a pitbull.

 

Answer by Jay
Submitted on 5/7/2004
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Bullmastiffs are probaly the most fearless, Biggest, Meanest dogs around. If any one has it it will be known for miles while u walk the dog people stay at home so when you see a bully out side you wont see no one else.

 

Answer by dog man
Submitted on 5/9/2004
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I believe the english mastiff in good condition of good breeding is second to none.

 

Answer by KANE
Submitted on 5/11/2004
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BULLMASTIFFS ARE JUST GOOD GAURD DOGS,BUT MAKES A GOOD FIGHTER AGAINST LARGER DOGS LIKE ITSELF.PITBULLS ARE JUST TOO FAST FOR ANY LARGER DOGS.NOT ONLY ARE THEY FAST, BUT THERE ARE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PITS THAT ARE USED FOR FIGHTING.SOME WEIGHING 30-TO THE 125IBs WITH A DEADLY BITE.THESE OTHER LARGE DOGS ARE JUST GOOD FOR BEING BIG,BUT ANY TRUE KILLING PITBULL USUALLY END A FIGHT QUICK.BULLMASTIFFS JUST DON'T QUALIFY.

 

Answer by you are all dumb
Submitted on 5/18/2004
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only two breeds can withstand the physical stresses of pit fighting.every breed of dog and every kind of animal have been tried.the biggest fighter is the tosa,but the best is the pitbull.no other dog of any breed would even have 2 seconds of a chance.this is for real,not just an opinion. pound for pound no ANIMAL can touch a pitbull, its been proved time and time again.

 

Answer by You all Suck
Submitted on 5/26/2004
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Hmmm...what a bunch of insecure boys, having to boost their sense of masculinity by owning big, fearsome dogs and arguing which can take out which in a fighting ring.  Pathetic - you'll never understand that animals, especially dogs (which, as a rule, are trusting, devoted animals) weren't put here for YOUR entertainment - for you to put in harm's way needlessly.  What a joke - if you have such a need for power and bloodshed, keep it amongst yourselves - don't bring animals into it.

 

Answer by paddy
Submitted on 5/27/2004
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bullmastiff's are a fine guard dog but you all appear to be overlooking the presa canario which is clearly the best guard dog in the world and would have any pit bull for breakfast and probably the bull mastiff too.
Whereas bullmastiff's are slow to mature, full of hereditary health problems and like most large mastiff's have short life spans and are an old dog no sooner than they come come into their prime. Check out the presa!

 

Answer by jodieboi
Submitted on 6/4/2004
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Bullmastiff look mean but actually its a gentle dog. if you wanna see a true fighting dog... see akita, presa, tosa, and pitbull. they are the toughest fighting breeds.

 

Answer by unknown
Submitted on 6/6/2004
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Listen, I'm going to make this as simple as I can. This is just how it is and there's nothing you can do about it.

(All dogs are ranked as if they were GAME BRED)
If the dogs are not game bred then the fights outcome can be unpredictable.

Dogs that can fight...

First Class
- APBT
- Tosa Inu

Dogs that have little or no chance of beating the first class...

Second Class
- Dogo Argentino
- American Bandogge
- English Bull Terrier
- American Staffordshire Terrier
- American Bulldog
- Presa Canario
- Bully Kutta
- Fila Brasileiro

Dogs that have little or no chance of beating the second class...

Third Class
- Caucasian Ovtcharka
- Neapolitan Mastiff
- Spanish Bulldog, and Spanish Alano (could be 2 breeds, or could be 1)
- Cane Corso
- Mallorquin Bulldog (Ca De Bou)
- Gul Dong
- Dogue De Bordeaux
- Guatemalan Bull Terrier
- Indian Bull Terrier
- Staffordshire Bull Terrier

And finally dogs that have no chance or little of beating the third class but can still hold their own...

The fourth class
- German Shepherd
- Doberman
- Rottweiler
- Shar Pei
- Alaskan Malamute
- Bullmastiff
- Wolf Hybrids
- Chow Chow (yes, even the Chow Chow)
- Most of the ovtcharkas
- A few shepherds.
- Akita Inu
- Thai Ridgeback
- Tibetan Mastiff, (and almost every other of mastiff origin that I didn't name, including the Boerboel and others)

The Fourth Class can go on forever. It mainly consists of your most common, popular breeds that you think so highly ofÖ

Believe it or not, when it comes down to, pound for pound that's just how it is!

 

Answer by True_Pits
Submitted on 6/17/2004
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More funny post...lol Couldn't this person easily research a breed and see what it is?

Bull Mastiff isn't any kind of fighting, an itellegent home guard dog. They are big mastiffs which were not ment for fighting and are rather gentle animals with other dogs, cats, ect and even people. But have a sense of protection and territorial drive and will guard their residents/master. I've seen several "beaten" and run away from other dogs when they escaped from their yards. From a Boxer and a Lab. None of those 3 breeds are fighters but they could be aggressive to other dogs, doesn't mean they are a fighting breed. Bullmastiffs are known for their gentleness with kids and other animals.

You can hardly get a straight or truthful answer anymore. Then people start adding this dog and that breed and turn the thread into something else.

Adam69 is right about them not being built properly at all and they would be severally short winded. Even though they don't way upwards of 200lbs? MALES should be no more in excess of 130lbs less for females. Rottweilers are no type of fighting dogs...lol Akitas are rumored to be a fighting breed but so many have curred in their intitail imports and "the dog that could whip the pit" the "new ultimate fighting dog" that its not even funny. People thought they had something, sadly they found out different.

But Akitas can be HIGHLY aggressive and try to pick fights and even kill other dogs.

"Bullmastiff is pound for pound the best guard dog or fighting dig it could take a rotty a fila a saintbernard doberman german shepherd and most likely a pitbull."

Wow I hope thats a joke...lmao bullmastiffs are friendly creatues that have no interest in fighting. You do know that right? Could never take a pit bull. Other breeds mentioned are not fighting dogs and if two aggressive dogs of those breeds met its anyones guess. It depends on how aggressive each dog is and which would quit and save itself first. This is on the individual dog not the breed-Fila, St Bernard, Bullmastiff, ect, but the the attitude, level of aggression and fight/flight the individual of that breed possess.

"BUT THERE ARE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PITS THAT ARE USED FOR FIGHTING.SOME WEIGHING 30-TO THE 125IBs WITH A DEADLY BITE."

You'll find that those 125lbs "pits" are actually from mastiff breeding..lol those are not the game dogs. Those are usually under 60lbs. 25-60lbs. No 100lbs CHs anywhere to be found, unless your looking for weight pull CHs and not fighting CHs.

"presa canario which is clearly the best guard dog in the world and would have any pit bull for breakfast and probably the bull mastiff too."

To what are basing this opinion on? Just curious. Presa's are no more a fighter then the Bullmastiff. Although they can be more aggressive with their same sex. Presas are an extremely efficient and deadly guard dog, same with the Fila not a fighting dog. How long do you think those dogs would really enjoy a fight.

 

Answer by True_Pits
Submitted on 6/17/2004
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Unknown's list is silly. This is just out of control. All you can do is sit back and laugh.

"Listen, I'm going to make this as simple as I can. This is just how it is and there's nothing you can do about it.

lol..nothing we can do about it. Anyone can post a bunch of BS, true nothing we can do about it.

"(All dogs are ranked as if they were GAME BRED)
If the dogs are not game bred then the fights outcome can be unpredictable."

lmao How can you even post such a list. As if they were game bred. Since none of those dogs are game bred and there isn't a large enough sample population, how in this world can you PREDICT those outcomes are make such ridiculous classifications????? How could you know that a gamebred Akita would loose to a Dogue De Bordeaux? A gamebred Corso would have no chance against a American Bulldog? Empty statements that are meaningless when none of these animals are gamebred and their is no way to predict the outcome and no reasoning behind this. And wolf hybrids? How do you gamebreed wolf hybrids? They will have a lot of their wolf instincts in all aspects of their lives including fights which would lead them to not be a fighter at all.



I just don't see the numbskull reasoning behing this list. Why is the Staffordshire Bull Terrier in class three? How do you come by that figurement. If you have APBTs in class one then it is only logical to have SBTs in class one. Gamebred SBT and APBTs going into the box against one another have the equal chances of defeat and victory as an APBT vs an APBT and a SBT vs a SBT. That really makes no sense at all. And somehow gamebred American Staffordshire Terrier, that makes me crack up. AmStaff is the show version of the APBT. We are supposed to take it as if these dogs were ever or would be gamebred and this is the predictable outcome? Use that brain power. The American Staffordshire Terrier is the APBT, bred away from performance. If you have gamebred AST instead of breeding them into a show dog you would have an APBT. They would be one in the same breed. So why are they in class two again?

The outcome is "predictable" in a fight between two dogs, yet so unpredictable. You can guess on breed vs breed, but it really depends on that individual and factoring in each advantage and disadvantage. Its likely to end quickly when one decides it wants to give up and thats it, its about the dog not the breed. It is in no way possibly to predict what the outcome would be if all these breeds were gamebred. Wow I can't even believe Dobies made the list..lol gamebred Dobies. Where do people come up with this stuff.  Dogo Argentino didn't make the list at all.

 

Answer by Pas
Submitted on 6/19/2004
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Sorry, I just couldn't help myself. I read this post and am amazed at this nonsense. For people that denounce the practice of dog fighting in pit bulls there sure is allot of speculation on which breed could whip the other. True_Pit is right there is no way to know exactly what breed could whip the other because none of these dogs are currently used in the[] except for the pit bull and the tosa.  These are true fighting dogs because they have been proven to be consistently game.  And, not surprisingly, are bred to be game.  Other breeds aren't.

Now this doesn't mean that the tosa or pit bull are unbeatable because all dogs are beatable. But what you have to consider is the quality of the pit or tosa in question. Yes, I've heard of those stories that "my rottie, dobbie, chow chow beat or killed a pit."  But was it a show or go pit? Because I'd bet dime to donuts that it wasn't bred for the [].  

But, as I mentioned earlier, the nonsense has to stop because what's going to end up happening is some moron is going to test out thier theory and end up with a dead dog. Or, even worse the dog is going to be ditched b/c they don't want to take it to the vet and explain what happened. To end the speculation, let's just say you have the world's toughest dog and leave it at that. God Bless.

 

Answer by macker
Submitted on 6/22/2004
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bullmastiffs are just great guard dogs thats it. they'dbe a match for a rotti or a german shep but thats it. And who is the idiot that said that filas are used to hunt jags.....retard they were originally used for that but were proved to be too slow , so then there job became hunting runaway laves in brazil. i know because i have an argentine dogo and they are the only breed that was bred specifically to hunt jags, puma and wild boar in packs of 4 with some dogos being able to take down puma alone. i'veseen dogos take pits quickly and of course it goes both ways. i know because i'vehunted all over south america and no dog can do what a dogo can.

 

Answer by BIG BULLY BULLMASTIFF
Submitted on 6/28/2004
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BULLMASTIFFS ARE THE BEST GUARD DOGS AROUND AND COULD EASILY RIP APART ONE OF THOSE OVER RATED PIT BULLS. I COULD RIP APART A PIT BULL WITH MY BARE HANDS. YOU WANT TO TRY MY BIG BULLY BULLMASTIFF AGAINST ANY ONE OF YOUR pitbulls THAN BRING IT. I HAVE NO FEAR. MY BULLMASTIFF WILL EAT A TEENY TINY 60 LB. PIT FOR LUNCH. DON'T DOUBT THIS BIG MOUTH. YOU DO NOT WANT ANY PART OF MY BULL. PITS ARE OVERRATED. BULLMASTIFFS, ROTTWEILERS, AND FILA MASTIFFS ARE THE TOUGHEST DOGS OUT THERE. AND I OWN ALL 3 AND LET ME TELL YOU. MY 3 DOGS COULD TAKE 10 OF YOUR TINY PIT BULLS PUNK.

 

Answer by bully k
Submitted on 6/29/2004
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bully kuuta is the best fighting dog in the world over all, altough american pitt bulls are tough as are toasa the bully kutta is the most poerfull

 

Answer by kk
Submitted on 6/29/2004
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i need to see some fotage, are there any good dog fighting clips on the net, free ones.
but i agree the the bully kutta is powerful

 

Answer by Needles to be said
Submitted on 6/29/2004
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First of all Pitbulls are over rated and the person who gave dogs first, second and
third class ratings don't have a clue. First of all a Pitbull's bite power is not as strong as a Bullmastiff's. And what the bullmastiff lack in speed they make up in power. That is the opposite for the pitbull.
Also pitbull are usually trained to fight and Bullmastiff aren't. If that person really knew a thing about dogs they would know that the pitbull goes for the throat. Like all wild animals, but the bullmastiff
neck is 85% muscle and skin is very tough against bites. The Bullmastiff tires quicker than the pitbull, but the bullmastiff never quites until its enemy is
down for the count or dead. Pits are really one of the worlds most dumbest dogs around.
Trust in me I had both Pit and bullmastiff.
by far the only dog that can hang with a mastiff is a canario or Japenese AKITA.

 

Answer by English Check
Submitted on 6/29/2004
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Everyone who has posted before me should really go back to school and take an English class.  It's really embarrassing to be reading this and think that other people are listening to your garbage when you use the word "loose" instead of "lose" and "First of all" followed by "First of all."  And your present tense and past tense is horrible.  Get a spell checker if you're really that stupid.  Or just keep your mouth shut, it's the only way someone will think you know something.

(Oh hell, there's even a check box down here that says "Check spelling."  You all must be idiots.)

 

Answer by macker
Submitted on 6/30/2004
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bullmastiffs arent fighting dogs and neither are akitas or sharpeis...these 2 were but havent been for many decades their along the line of an english bulldog with the akita having more gameness. bullmastiffs are guard dogs thats it , my argentine dogo could easily beat one. dogos are 45 to 60 kilos of pure muscle and jaws.

 

Answer by KO.ZEUS04
Submitted on 7/1/2004
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MOMS DOG

 

Answer by KO.ZEUS04
Submitted on 7/2/2004
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We all know what type of dogs are fighting dogs,there is really know one breed that could kill another breed 100% of the time.
Its all in who raises the dog and how they are raised.I know some of you are clearly making up fights that you say happened,just because you want your breed of dog to be the toughesdt and in your eyes you may think you have the toughest dog alive.
I seen pits that kill and pits that are scared of its own shadow.
All i know is if im like most of you and live in a neighborhood that has a fence and you want a guard dog,i dont see how you could top a dog like the bul mastiff,neo mastiff. then theres the other class of guard dogs (dobermans,rotts,akitas,german shepherds)
I know most of yall are saying dogs like Tosa'sand Fila's Carsos,,but how many of us can afford those?

 

Answer by macker
Submitted on 7/2/2004
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well i got my dogo in argentina for about 800 bucks. Filas run for about the same and even cheaper. in peru i found dogos for 80 bucks and filas were also along that range. corsos arent that common but wont run for more than 300 bucks in peru. N. mastiffs are also pretty cheap here. pits are practically free at about 90 soles in peru, thats about 26 dollars, and theyre not little 30 pounders theyre pits that when grown weigh in at 70 to 90 pounds.

 

Answer by poppa j
Submitted on 7/10/2004
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Listen to me, I have bred pitbulls from 35lbs to 105lbs I have bred presa canarios from 105lbs to 150lbs I have bred tosa Inus from 95lbs to 250lbs.  I have engaged all of them in fights among them and bar none no dog on earth and compare to the agile Tosa Inu.  Presa are the next as long as they get it over with in 15 minutes after that they pretty much give up.  pitbulls pound for pound are the best fighting machine but up against a 120 or 145 pound presa no contest ever.  thes 3 are the true fighting dogs.

 

Answer by i believeyou
Submitted on 7/15/2004
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heheheh yep pritty funny well i think in most  cases you will find that them mastiff  breeds      would if not always come out on top  over  apbt   90% of the time im not saying that apbt cant take it up with the larger dogs  im just sayin they just too big to handle  to strong  anyway ive seen apbt take to a dogo and believe me that dogo had held of it like a dole  that poor pit had no chance  .
as i said it all comes down to the size strength of them dogs (not saying apbt cant win)

 

Answer by shocka
Submitted on 7/15/2004
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yo, poppa j who you kiddin'. You a dumb foo'. Even I know dat aint always tru. I seen madd dogs fight and da tru king of the pits is an all apbt bout 30 pound, rednose, wit regular size head not a lab head but not a toad head either. All da pros noe wat im talkin bout rite... and noe mastiff can compare. and fo i beleiveyou is dat yo boyfriend LOL whats up wit da statistics where u come wit dat bull? u fools needa shut up or get shot up... much love to da rest... 1

 

Answer by macker
Submitted on 7/15/2004
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a 30 pound pit against a130 pund presa or dogo...hahahahahhahahahahahha you must be a child......wait........hahahahahahahhahhah ok, ok ,ok i promise im done know.

 

Answer by shocka
Submitted on 7/16/2004
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ha ha ha ha ha ha ok ima stop, no i cant haha haha haa ha ha ha ok ok

 

Answer by NEAL
Submitted on 7/17/2004
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MACKER IS A SUCKWET

 

Answer by macker
Submitted on 7/17/2004
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yeah shoka i thought youd end up laughing at yourself!!!!!!!! hahahahahahahahahahh....ok cool! and neal why do you follow me from forum to forum?????? didnt you say you like getting drunk with your tosa skittles....why dont you take a break from the shiny, shiny screen and suck on a bud!!!!

 

Answer by Neal
Submitted on 7/18/2004
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no suckie boy you are just everywhere!pushing your stupid DINGO!WHY DON'T BUTCH AND I SMOKE A BUD AND LAUGH AT YOU?

 

Answer by sooooboooo
Submitted on 7/18/2004
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Your a bunch of sick retards.

 

Answer by .
Submitted on 7/18/2004
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at least we have an EXCUSE HOW BOUT YOU?

 

Answer by macker
Submitted on 7/18/2004
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neal you and your split personalities!!!! you have what i would call the mailman syndrome!!hahahahhahah. Are you a mailman neal? hey by the way hows your tosa skittles, he still banging you? hahahahahah youi probably dont even have a tosa...hows a pig farming red neck like you suppose to afford that thing?

 

Answer by NEAL
Submitted on 7/20/2004
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HOW ABOUT A LIAR PUNK KID LIKE YOU JACKER? BRING YOUR DINGO ON AND WE SEE YOU HAS WHAT. LIAR ASS JACKER!YOU AIN'T GOT NOTHING BUT THE INTERNET AND A WISH.

 

Answer by macker
Submitted on 7/20/2004
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neal you get less articulate every time you post anything. you don't have a tosa you probably don't even have a dog, you expect us to believe that a pig farmer like you is married and that you went to japan and bought a tosa for 3500 bucks.....????!!!!!!! hahahahahahahahahaha puss!!!! get a real job and then post something you redneck!

 

Answer by antman
Submitted on 7/21/2004
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yall are so stupid why are yall hating on the apbt.dont u know that when they made the breed they made it to kill any thing.dont u think they knew what they was doing.i understand a tosa can fight but if u get a real apbt with some fire in it its hard to whipe it.

 

Answer by macker
Submitted on 7/21/2004
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oh neal.......i see your an idiot....why don't you go bang yur dog skittles and make him call you neal 2 or firedrag, or any of your other personalities. your not fooling anyone puss we all know who you are....oh and yur mom said that she wont be back for about a week, im gonna use duke as a stud for you mom and he'll bang her for about a week. puss!

 

Answer by anonimus
Submitted on 7/22/2004
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can english bulldog kill pit bull or akita

 

Answer by dogggie trainnnerrrrrrrrr
Submitted on 8/4/2004
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here it goes these are all the classes for the best fighting dogs

1st class
tosa inu /1 of the greatest fighters
APBT / they always go for the throat nice grip n power ful
akita /best of all the akita is a great fighter the akita tosa /bull mastiff are the only ones that can take a pit
fila mastiff / great an heavy fighter
bull mastiff/ stay in the fight till the oponent is down
2nd class
- American Staffordshire Terrier
doberman
Dogo Argentino
Tibetan Mastiff,
Rottweiler good guard dogs big n strong
Neapolitan Mastiff
3rd class
german shepard good police dogs
alaskan malamute strong for snow /sleding
Thai Ridgeback
american bull dog

 

Answer by doggieeee mannn
Submitted on 8/4/2004
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the dogs who are the best fighting dogs IN RANKS
1ST CLASS
TOSA
APBT
AKITA
BULL MASTIFF
FILI MASTIFF
STAFFRODSHIRE
American Staffordshire Terrier
2ND CLASS
AMERICAN BULL DOG
ROTTWEILER
DOBERMAN
Tibetan Mastiff,
3RD CLASS
GERMAN SHEPARD
ALASKAN MALAMUTE
SIBERIAN HUSKY
Dogo Argentino

 

Answer by dog tagg
Submitted on 8/4/2004
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the best fighting dog would have to be the akita tosa pit bull all three are ranked
first class fighters
the sencond class fighter are dobe rott
german shepard alakan malamute /
3rd class fighters are shar pei
boxer occasinally
bull matiff  

 

Answer by wolfer
Submitted on 8/5/2004
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the irish wolfhound would kill any dog if it was truely aroused. it would break its back.

 

Answer by kyle
Submitted on 8/12/2004
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Bullmastiffs are great guard dogs but in a fight with a pit it wouldn't have the endurance. tosas and  pits were bred to fight its in their genes but not the bullmastiffs.they are great dogs but werent bred to fight.

 

Answer by kyle
Submitted on 8/12/2004
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dogos are beutifuldogs they were bred for hunting though i dont doubt there ability atosa or pit as the upperhand in MOST cases. dogos were made with the cordoba dog wich is now extinct it was so mean it would attack its mate during breeding.

 

Answer by brian
Submitted on 8/14/2004
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nothin can beat a bullmastiff when he is protecting his family. before he died my 10 year old bullmastiff had enough fight left in him to completely destroy the neighbors pit bull who would have mauled me.

 

Answer by lucas
Submitted on 8/17/2004
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tosa ken what about that you gang of fags

 

Answer by Roastcha
Submitted on 8/20/2004
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An Enlish Bulldog wouldnt hold no contest toward neither of those dogs. The Bulldog just couldnt do it the pitbull no way if the enlish bulldog could beat a pitbull it would beat anydog almost because of its height. And the akita has a strong and fat neck. Either way no it wouldnt. I seen a bulldog fight some mix breed. Looking like a husky without the curly tail. They fough and the dog mauled the englishbulldog then the bulldog grabbed on. Then the dog simply shook the bulldog and bit its back to relieve itself of the bulldog. But in the end the bulldog did win because the dog got tired and the bulldog harly used up any of its energy. It was just a back yard fight though.

Halla

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Answer by Kwomy
Submitted on 8/27/2004
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You are all stupid American knobheads, who cares what dog can beat what dog? you all need to go and learn how to read and write before you are qualified enough to determine what dog is the hardest (by the way it's a WOLF stupid) and anyone who fights dogs for fun are little pea brained neandethals with no respect for dogs at all.

 

Answer by Chaotic-kenn
Submitted on 9/6/2004
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It is simple to understand that there are some breeds better suited to the ring however even these breeds can be beaten by more prepared animal. I breed pitts and know that they are a strong and dangerous advisary however if not bred AND TRAINED for the ring they can be beaten by any dog that has the heart.

 

Answer by 198
Submitted on 9/7/2004
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i have a rhodesian ridgeback female that has recently had pups, the neighborhood isnt great, and one day i had just got through walking her when a male pit was trying to get into the pin with the pups, my female pulled the chain from my hand took off after the pit, theyy were tangled up for about 1 or 2 mins, when my ridgeback locked onto the pits throat, might have been lucky or goes to show some dogs with a bad ass rep really dont make a damn, especially when the other dogs instinct kicks in

 

Answer by josh69
Submitted on 9/8/2004
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the american pitbull terrier will beat any dog that it is up agianst.and thats not just saying that.i know cuz i own bout 8 of them and they will kill faster than any other dog that i know....

 

Answer by sjv
Submitted on 9/16/2004
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rejects

 

Answer by silentkiker
Submitted on 9/18/2004
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Once I had a Rottweiler imported from GErmany, boy that dog is different from todays american rotts, well it was 1 1/2 years old and this brownish colored "walked" Pit bull just wanted to attack him by the neck which he kinda did but my dog manuvered and jerked  his head down on to the ground with the pit on his back,he tried to get up but my rott ripped open its stomach before it tried to regain on its feet to attack again.Sometimes wrong things happen at the wrong time.

 

Answer by pitbulfan
Submitted on 9/19/2004
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A Pit bull is by far the best fighting dog, although it does not have the size of a Tosa or a Fila it has the speed and definitely has the jaws.American Staffordshire Terriers Are Just As Good Fighters As The APBT However Are Considered Not As Good,THEIR THE SAME DOG.Dogo Argentino Are The Best Guardian's And Protectors Of Family And Their Size Gives Help In The Ring Can A Dogo Argentino Beat A American Staff?

 

Answer by Logon
Submitted on 10/16/2004
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hell no!
An akita will kill most dogs my Akita has Beat Pitbulls Boxers and others

 

Answer by common sence
Submitted on 10/17/2004
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1st of all I dont like dog fighting.But I have had pitbulls,american bulldogs,and rottweilers.Now I have the best.I will tell you pitbulls are the best pound for pound dogs,period.But I have had the gamest pitbull I have ever known and my american bulldog ate it for lunch.But if you want to be real about it my Neapolitan Mastiff would eat any dog around he's a 200 pound killer.Ask anybody who knows about them they are breed to be killers.They have skin that lets them take more damage than any other dog around and way more of a powerfull bite.Anyway when you kids grow up and relize fighting dogs is for men with small penises,get ya some money and buy you a home protecter and the toughest dog in the world a Neapolitan mastiff!

 

Answer by KING KONG
Submitted on 10/22/2004
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If there was a doggie Olympics and the event's consisted of dog fighting, Big Game hunting, small game hunting, ratting Bull,Lion,Tiger and Bear bating. Weight pulling and sled pulling. Herding and shuntzhund. The Akita's would win more gold medals because they can do everything.

 

Answer by JACO
Submitted on 11/1/2004
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PITBULLS ARE THE BEST FIGHTING DOORS THERE IS! THEY GO STRAIGHT FOR THE THROAT!!!

 

Answer by Rage
Submitted on 11/1/2004
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Are Chinese Shar-pei able to do anything as a guard dog?

 

Answer by danger
Submitted on 11/4/2004
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Bullmastiff is the best gaurd and fighting dog. They are fearless and have very strong skin I personally have seen a bullmastiff beat a pit. Bullmastiffs are the best fighting dog as they have a locking jaw. they can give and take bites as the are such a big dog. Also My bullmastiff beated a american bulldog and staffodshire bull terrier.Bullmastiffs are fighting dogs!

 

Answer by
Submitted on 11/5/2004
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i have a blue pit and a rotty. overall my rottweiler dominates, and trust me, my pit is viscious. both have had police training, and without a doubt my rott would kill my pit if i gave it the chance. being that my rott is a female she is slightly smaller than a male ( 115lbs.) even taking into consideration that she is larger than my pit, she is just as quick, and stands her ground much better...basically she dominates over my pit.........point being...possibly in a state of nature pits could own rotts, however, when trained rotts are the most loyal, intelligent,loving, protective and viscious attack/gaurd dogs. maybe if some of you would take the time to realize that its all about the training, you could understand that many dogs could win in fights of all situations. therefore, lists are incredibly inaccurate.however, when dealing with dogs in a state of nature, i would put the tosa inu in its own class.

 

Answer by breederx
Submitted on 11/6/2004
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Once again just like anything, this question is not cut and dry. There are many determining factors so the answer is yes and no. Depends on the breeding, personality, stock, upbringing, and owner. However I will say that the guy who said he's seen a bullmastiff run from a fight must have been mistaken, it wasn't a bullmastiff, or it was not fully mature. A full grown male bullmastiff can easily carry 170lbs of muscle and the most game of them would defeat a pitbull without question. I owned a 165lb bullmastiff as a youth in Philly where there were many mean, ill-treated pitbulls and their irresponsible owners. Once while walking my bullmastiff, a young thug was walking his pit-bull without a leash and the pit ran up to my dog and attacked but he couldn't grab on to the bullmastiff throat because of the thickness of his neck and saggy skin. It took all of about two to three minutes before my bullmastiff destoryed the pit by grabbing the throat and shaking him with massive force. So in general terms a good bullmastiff will defeat a good pitbull any day of the week.

 

Answer by Kent
Submitted on 11/15/2004
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What about a Presa Canario?

 

Answer by blademan
Submitted on 12/1/2004
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hey all thebest fighting dog of all is a chocolate lab no doubt .. i had mine fight and it beats up every dog in the world ... it can beat a dragon ....suckers

 

Answer by Nazi Dogs
Submitted on 12/3/2004
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Dogs werent made for your entertainment....

your probaly alln*ggers anyway
so i dont know why im wasting my time telling you this

 

Answer by un-i-tee 3:28
Submitted on 12/7/2004
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Anthony stay off  the computer and quit hatein on the cane corso and the tosa you know that your pitts stink. Besides I was over at your house the other day and Zero was backing off your to t.j.{his chow ya'll
and if you think queen{his pitt} is so bad how come she hasn't showed up to fight shouge?{my mastiff} This is Peewee ,brittany and jake. Call us when you see this.

 

Answer by Whododnedat
Submitted on 12/8/2004
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You are all wrong!!..pound for pound a Jack Russell is the best!!......What a thought?..does anyone know where i can find a 150lb JR???   lol!! you are all way too serious!!!..why on earth would you want to fight your innocent dogs?.....would any of you fancy taking on a 400lb wrestler?..lol!

 

Answer by pimp
Submitted on 12/9/2004
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u all are just unawer of the boxers true toughness it can beat anything out there

 

Answer by Joel77
Submitted on 12/17/2004
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The 2 toughest dogs in the world are the Japanese Tosa Inu and American Pit bull terrier.

No one else comes close.

 

Answer by DeD
Submitted on 12/18/2004
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American Pit Bull is a vicious dog, no doubt... However i think that it cannot overpower a mastiff and will hardly do any damage to it, im a big fan of german sheperds and other wolf kind breeds, remember no dog can take a mountain wolf 1v1 so any wolf breed has an advantage in a fight. There are dogs in europ none of u have even heard off. There is a european dog called The ''Sharp Planinac'',(im not sure of english name for it). That dog is 4 times the size of a pit bull and each of it hairs is about 10 cm. A pitbull would be dead before it even got a touch on this dog. Also Pit bulls are agressive and stupid, When i was a child i saw a pit bull rip another dogs ear off.

Shortly after that the owner of the victim dog killed the pit bull with his bare hands. HE pushed its eyes out of its skull

 

Answer by Be simple
Submitted on 12/20/2004
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Well , I don't know where you all get your information from , but my friend's bullmastiff killed a pitbull 2 weeks ago , when the pit attacked him on his turf . I think alot has to do with genetics , fearlessness and luck , coz one good bite can end the fight , nomatter what dog it is . Pitbulls are nice , no doubt , but im just following up on some comments from earlier , sum1 saying that bullmastiff is all the way on the bottom , and pit is all the way on top , so much for that ..

 

Answer by Be simple
Submitted on 12/20/2004
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Oh , one more thing , I think that bullmastiffs that have long history or father and mother bullmastiffs aren't exactly it . I have an american bullmastiff who's relative from 2 generations back is an American Bulldog , I got a monster :)

 

Answer by DAWGY
Submitted on 12/23/2004
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WELL, I OWN A BOERBOELS AND HAVING SEEN MANY OF THEM INTERACT WITH PITS AND AMBULLS.  I HAVE TO SAY THAT IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE DOG.  I HAVE SEEN SOME BULLIES THAT WOULD TRASH A PIT.  THE DIFFERENCE BEING THAT PITS DON'T QUIT.  THERE ARE DOCUMENTED CASES OF PITBULLS STILL FIGHTING WITH TWO BROKEN LEGS.  ALL PRJUDICES ASIDE THEY ARE "GAME BRED."  THEY HAVE A HUGE PAIN TOLERANCE.  THINK ABOUT IT BACK IN THE DAY ONLY THE CHAMPIONS WERE BRED OUT.  THE OTHERS WERE DEAD.  IT WAS SELECTIVE BREEDING AT ITS BEST.  IT'S REALLY HARD TO SAY WHAT DOG WOULD WIN BUT HAVING OWNED A PIT I KNOW THAT THEY DON'T STOP UNTIL PULLED AWAY OR DEAD.  

 

Answer by ARRR
Submitted on 12/25/2004
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Akita would win a English bulldog and handle most pit bulls

 

Answer by YEAH!
Submitted on 12/29/2004
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my dog is a realy good strong fighting dog,he's half rottweiler a half american pitbull terrior.i have size,strength,and power spliced with stamina,speed a skill, very intimidating.i didn't pay for it but i traded my pure-bred rotty and my german shepard for it eqauling to $1,300.he's won every single fight he's been in and wasn't chewed up too bad,not much actualy. he's 26 1/4 inches tall and weighs 135 lbs.,nice!right now he has an 866 pound per square in bite,watch out!

 

Answer by colaz
Submitted on 1/4/2005
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i hate dogs fightig but ill put u straight on two things.  pound for pound the bullmastiff is the most courageous dog in the world.
pitbulls that are trained to fight in pits,  would kill anything in the pit, to fast to quick. put that pitbull in an open feild, sorry  the bullmastiff would throw it around like a rag doll.its in the training.

 

Answer by john william batey    (kenzo)
Submitted on 1/9/2005
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THE BULLMASTIFF IS NOT A FIGHTING DOG IT WAS A BREED AS A GAMEKEEPERS GUARD DOG IT WAS CROSSED WITH THE OLD BULL DOG AND THE MASTIFF.

 

Answer by adam69
Submitted on 1/10/2005
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hell no mate not without a heart attack. an american bulldog might put up a fight but an english bully vs a pitbull is like tyson vs danny devito.

 

Answer by Big boy
Submitted on 1/16/2005
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What


 

Answer by ramboblaze
Submitted on 1/17/2005
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First of all I am not trying to disrespect anyone, but some of you have no idea what you are talking about.Anyone that would fight an animal for there own amusement is a punk. If you are so tough you would do the fighting yourself. If you want to brag about how your dog defended you against harm with his life that is one thing and most of the breeds mentioned above would do so, thats fine. Measure how tough your dog is by how loyal he is to you, do you know that no matter what your dog would defend you and your family with his life,if yes, I would agree that your dog is pretty tough, finally I would like to add that anyone with half a brain knows that pound for pound the apbt is the best fighting dog in the world. I am not saying another breed could not beat a pit in the ring i am saying pound for pound. I have never herd of or read anything that would suggest that a mastiff, or any other breed outside a Tosa Inu, or apbt being breed for fighting or gameness. So I would suggest that most of you      
do some research before you talk about something you have no clue about. If you want to think your dog is the best that is fine i know i do, all i am asking is you do not fight then. If you were half a man you would do the fighting yourself. P.S. Love your dog not fight them.

 

Answer by bigboerboel
Submitted on 1/21/2005
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wanna know who wins in a fight... you guys do well done! u get a dog which can only bring you love and you throw it into a pit and make fight other dogs and get ripped apart and bitten countless times on the face and body... as for boerboels leave them alone we didnt export boerboels to america for you u tossess to throw them in a pit... they are the most wonderfull dogs when reared properly... i hope u dog fighters all burn in hell cos thats what u deserve

 

Answer by macker2
Submitted on 1/23/2005
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macker is a fraud im a mate of his but hate his guts... the only dog he has is a poodle!

 

Answer by Laz_Mac
Submitted on 1/26/2005
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You guys need to take a raincheck. You have no idea about the true nature of dogs. Yes, you can predict the outcome of a dog fight all you want. The truth is dogs fight to kill, and just like a fight between humans the outcome is all about who gets in the first meaningful blow. Prediction is good, if your a betting man and plan on making some cash, but if you put a SBT against, lets say, a Bullmastiff......the SBT is the predicted winner, but one good bite from the Bullmastiff, and the SBT might as well be a pigeon, because its buggered. Same goes for any dog fight. Speculation is futile.

 

Answer by vicous
Submitted on 1/27/2005
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fila good dog kill SKITTLES in 15 second or less probaly less

 

Answer by Hillary
Submitted on 1/30/2005
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Are you guys sick?  You should all go to hell for even thinking of fighting dogs.  Its wrong and unworthy of any doing.  I hope one day all who fight dogs for any reason should be put in jail for life.  I have a bullmastiff and anyone would come near her to fight I would go down before her.  I'm just as protective over her and she is of me.  Your sick and need to help.  Dogs were not put on earth to fight for entertainment or money.  I cant stress enough as to how demented and wrong dog fighting is and should be stopped.

 

Answer by rafa
Submitted on 2/8/2005
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Everyone get this straight a bull mastiff is not a fighting dog,it can be if you train it.A dogo argentino can easily kill a bull mastiff, even a bull terrier can too, alot of strong dogs can.A bull mastiff was not meant to fight.

 

Answer by christ
Submitted on 2/13/2005
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i know what is true. i really think the doberman pinscher is the toughest dog. i use to dog fight my doberman female took on two 90 lb pit bull males one after each other and she killed one. she came out with some cut to her eye. and she was 1 1/2 she is 8 now.

 

Answer by Dog Man
Submitted on 2/22/2005
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this is a interesting topic so i thought i'lladd my two cents.im not suprised to see that the apbt was mentioned. i am happy to see that the akita, presa, and tosa was mentioned. the akita , what can i say? do u know how many stories i have heard of akitas handing pitbulls their asses? i mean just a couple of months ago when i was walkin my dog( i have a akita)and this guy was tellin me he witnessed a fight between a akita and pitbull and the akita destroyed the pitbull. literally ripped its face off. another story  i heard of a 140lb akita getting it on with a pitbull , with the pitbull dying in the fight. remember the akita was crossed with the tosa to increase its size and fighting ability. the original akita were more like medium sized dogs. my akita has proven himself time and time but i do have a problem with alot akita breeders, i feel they are shyin away from their original purpose as a guard dog and focus more on looks. presas are just pure machines.  but i would say the tosa is probably the best fighting breed closly followed by the akita,presa, and american bulldog. thas right a bulldog, ( i heard that one guy bought  a lion to make it fight his bulldogs, he had 3 each weighin 150lbs) the lion managed to kill one of them b4 the other 2 managed to kill it. so my list is this:

Tosa
Akita
Presa Canario
American Bulldog
APBT
Dogo Argentino
Fila Brasiliero ( i have one also)

i dont condone fighting, but call it as i see it. apbt'sare not man kilin machines like the media trys to make them, they are actually people friendly. very good fighters, one of the best but they are beatable.

 

Answer by badtodabone
Submitted on 2/22/2005
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Just my opinion what i have seen or heard over the years>
The bullmastiff is not a fighting dog as it wasnt breed for that purpose (originally used to catch poachers in Britain).
However it does have some good charictoristics that would qualify it as a fighting dog, size, stenght,powerfull jaws. dog aggressive.
Its hard to compare dogs like for like cos situations and dogs differ just as in a street fight.  None of the dogs mentioned here would be be 100% succesful.
Ive had four bullmastiffs two male two
female.  I have yet to see any of them lose in a fight and trust me they have had many, all purely by accident which is why i never let any of my dogs off the lead anymore EVER!  From what i have observed they have the skills to take on most dogs but to actually kill a dog can take time and i beleive that the pitbull maybe more determined and fitter in the end and thus would prevail.  I dont know what happens in a dog fight when its left to its concluesion as i have always beat my dogs off the other dogs they are atacking, but from what i have seen they are very aggresive in battle and i have never witnessed this level of violence from any other dog.  bearing in mind i havent seen many of these dogs fight.  But dogs my bullmastiffs have delt with over the years on dog walks have been.
Staffies on three occasions very overated in my opinion.
Rhodision ridgebacks twice. scared of other dogs faggots.
Dog de bordeuex x 2 no game like big slobbery labradors.
St bernard my female felled a 200lbs+ lump and i had to poke her in the eye for her to get jaws off neck.
Im not sure if they could live with really fit game fighting dogs but all the rest no worries.

 

Answer by LISTEN UP FOOLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! dogman
Submitted on 3/7/2005
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Well sounds like everyone is a pro in the dog fighting world. I'm sure all the old timer are LTAO! Please, if you don't learn anything from this nonsense atleast learn this. Yes I will agree that the (true game dogs not show dogs) pitbulls are pound for pound the best fighting dogs.Any dog that weight the same as a pitbull will have no chance as far as gameness will go. The only way a 30 pound pit can beat a 100 lbs monster is if he isn't killed first and tired out the bigger dog. Just for the sake of arguing pitbulls are fought under a contracted weight. Think of it like pro boxing, we would never even imagine that a 120 lbs guy will beat a 200 lbs guy in the ring going for 12 rounds.

Thats my two cent!!! take it and grow from it.

 

Answer by papabing
Submitted on 3/7/2005
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bunch of idiots!
Pardon true pits and pas

 

Answer by Gsegs
Submitted on 3/10/2005
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Apbt are the best around

 

Answer by TT
Submitted on 3/24/2005
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I would choose a dog for protection over myself and family not fighting. Most people That i have talked to Say Pit would win in a fight. imo if any dog that was the size of a Bull got ahold of something the size of a pit its over Ragg Doll Beatings till the stuffing comes out but if the pit could get the neck first Night Night for the Bull.

Your dog should be your best friend not your..... actuly it should hold a status even higher you two will never fight over a pair of Titts they will never talk you into doing something dumb. They wont dislike you if all you eat is chicken.  any dog will fight kill or die for its master it is what they do...  What do some  of the people here do to deserve that much loylty ?  You did such a good job buster here u go boy i got u a tredmill Enjoy..  Looks like some need to grow up or u will be a poodle amongst pits,Bullys,Rotties, Want to Guess that outcome ?

 

Answer by Ricardo Ribeiro
Submitted on 3/25/2005
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Go to the Web and fin 2 Portuguese dogs: Fila s. miguel and castro laboreiro ,

after dat you speek


 

Answer by sacred
Submitted on 3/26/2005
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I have bred bullmastiffs for several years. I have a few bullmastiffs that would kill a majority of pitbulls, but of course, I also selectively breed for gameness as I believe the bullmastiff has become a little too docile.

HOWEVER, the best pit bulls are going to beat the best bullmastiffs in a fight. Period. The top two fighting dogs are the Tosa Inu and American Pitbull Terrior (I will stay out of the argument over which one is better, but personally I would bet on a conditioned 75lb pit). However, there is a breed of dog called a bandog that is a cross between bullmastiffs and pitbulls and they are every but as deadly. However, the problem with those dogs is that they do not breed true and eventually turn back into a pitbull (more or less).

Now, we're talking about dogs fighting dogs, but you have to understand that bullmastiffs were designed to stop MEN. I have had a pitbull bite me ... in the leg. I am 6'1 220lbs and have trained in muay thai and brazillian jiu jitsu for 10 years. Let me tell you that when I kicked the dog with my shin it was airborn and while it kept coming (it was a pitbull after all) it kept on getting pelted. I honestly did much more damage to the 45lb pitbull than it did to me and I would be shocked if it didn't suffer from broken ribs (goodness knows I've broken  larger human ribs in the ring). Now, why didn't the dog really have a chance to hurt me? Because I am too damn big. All of my vital componants on my body are too high. He couldn't hurt me in any serious way (in my mind a few stitches is hardly anything to write home about). So then why are there so many reported deaths by pitbull attack? Most of the deaths are children or older people (though not all). Bottom line - if a dog wants to seriously injure a human being, it needs to knock that human being down. The very same characteristics that allow the pitbull to have its stamina are the same limiting characteristics that hinder its ability as a man stopper.

Those same larger mastiff breeds (word to the not so wise: pitbulls have mastiff lineage) that aren't great against other dogs are much better manstoppers. And when you want to talk about a guard dog/man stopper - there is NOTHING better than a bullmastiff. Maybe a few dogs as good though (american bulldogs come to mind, and there are other similar built breeds).

One note: If I had to have a dog other than a bullmastiff, it just might be a presa canario, dogo or cane corso. I have no experience with these dogs, but from what I know they are very appealing. I do have experience with a red nosed pit female who was wonderful and also very dog/animal aggressive (no surprise there). I have some pictures of my bullmastiffs if anyone would like to see what they are SUPPOSED to look like these days (rippling with muscle and obtaining proper type) I would be happy to share. As I said, I firmly believe MY bullmastiffs would give quite a few pitbulls a beating. But, I have bred for gameness. Still, pitbulls are bred for something different, and the best pits are going to beat the best bullmastiffs, or really anything else. Though, again, I am talking about conditioned 70 - 80lb dogs. Not the smaller or giant builds that everyone has seen (my red nosed pit female was 49 lbs).


  

 

Answer by chris bully
Submitted on 3/29/2005
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are bullmastiffs ok in the house?

 

Answer by Tyler
Submitted on 3/29/2005
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A bullmastiff is not interested in any in a fight. It's not interested in prolonging a fight either. If it is threatened by someone or another dog, it may run away this is possible.    But if the owner is attacked by another dog or person the bullmastiff is only interested in the kill. My vet grew up with many Bulls living on a farm. He has many stories. The Bull isn't interested in the length of the fight. It only wants to kill the offending object quickly. It will use brute strength. They don't just down and hold. They were muzzeled back in the day in the game of chasing down a man. All records were kept. No man ever won. In a ring it feels no real passion for a fight if the owner is not in danger. The breeder I got mlbs Bull from said his neighbors pit (about 65lbs) jumped the fence and went towards his 8 year old daughter. Probably wasn't going to hurt her. Most pits are friendly if socialized. Bulls are naturally reserved with strangers. You must socialize them. Anyway, one of his adult males,about 135lbs, immediatly leaped thru the air grabbing the pit by the neck and shook the pit breaking his neck. My friend felt bad though. He never saw that kind of speed or aggression in any of his Bulls. I believe a Bullmastiff is a people protecter. This is why you should never train one to attack or guard.  Its instincts and lineage is solidified. No need for us to encorage it.

 

Answer by what
Submitted on 3/29/2005
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no doubt it

 

Answer by safebra
Submitted on 3/30/2005
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no way a english bulldog couldnt deal with a poodle.  no mouth all wrinkles.   its a toy dog. a shadow of its former self that bears no ressemblance to the original bulldog which was by all accounts pretty indesctructable.

 

Answer by ufc KO
Submitted on 3/30/2005
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As for fighting dogs many breeds have been used in the pit but people were quickly losing their dogs and they're not cheap even for the idiots that steal them have to feed them. As people wised up to this they realised only a few breeds were suited to fighting other dogs this has nothing to do with strength I mean the strongest man in the world isn't the UFC champion or WBO champion is he?

Japanese Tosa Inu, American Pitbull, any form of bull terrier (inc. bully kutta which has evolved from english bull terrier), and the presa canario are the dogs used for fighting. The facts are the Tosa Inu and American Pitbull are the most sucessful at fighting other dogs, PERIOD.

Bull Mastiffs, fila brasileira, Cane corso, Rottweiler, Dobermann, Bulldogs (inc. Bandogge), dogue de bordeaux,and sharpei are all powerful animals and can cause other dogs serious harm but against a dog with the sole purpose for fighting they will have no chance, against each other it's un-predictable which will win, it depends on individual, even if they were trained for fighting they would'tovercome any of the fighting dogs because it isn't in their instinct. These dogs make excellent guard dogs, the Bull mastiff is probably the best guard dog because it isn't overly agressive and wont kill the intruder they'll just hold them down by their neck.If you want a guard dog to hurt the intruder then the fila brasileira.  

Doggo Argentino, Alano espanol, Japanese Akita, wolf hybrids, and german shepherds, are all hunting dogs it is their instinct, from the previous messages i can see people are fascinated with dangerous dogs in which case the doggo argentino and the akita are probably the most dangerous dogs for everyday life make sure you have a really tall fence because if they escape they'll hunt anything down (people, animals).

you can go to prison if your dog does something bad.

The Bull mastiff is the ultimate dog it's an unsurpassed protector of it's owner(s) and property and is good with kids and friends of the family. As long as you don't mind the slobber, and it does get every where.  

 

Answer by colin
Submitted on 4/2/2005
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pitbulls my rse bulls  are the hardest dogs out there

 

Answer by BULLY
Submitted on 4/18/2005
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CAN THE AMERICAN BULLDOG KILL THE AKITA OR WILL THE AKITA KILL THE AMERICAN BULLDOG ?

 

Answer by Big Country
Submitted on 4/20/2005
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The best fighting dog in the world is an american pitbull terrior for the simple fact is that the worlds best fighting dog is grand champion may day ROM and he is a registered american pitbull terrior.

 

Answer by dogster
Submitted on 4/28/2005
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Pit Bull best fighter? Let me relate an experience. While walking my dog we always passed
by the home of a pit bull owner. Each time the dog snarled, growled and jumped at the storm door.
On this particular day the dog jumped against the door, which was not closed tight, and sprang out
snarling and growling while rushing toward me. My dog tore the leash from my hand and
met the pit halfway. Within moments the pit lay in a pool of its own blood, dead. My
dog? A German Shepherd. The pit owner tried to sue, which went nowhere, and many
in the neighborhood later told me they were pleased the pit was dispatched.

 

Answer by dog vet
Submitted on 5/9/2005
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whoever said that bull-mastiffs are fighting dogs is an idiot. Presa canario, cane corso, argentenian dogo, japanese tosa, and the american pitbull terrior are among the toughest and best guard dogs in the world. The pitbull and tosa stand in their own category. If a presa even came close to wining a fight against a pit  that would be a fluke. Presas do not have the maneuver capabilities a pitbull has nor the stamina. Pound for pound the pitbull is the strongest dog with the strongest bite and the most athletic; therefore making it the most feared of any breed.

 

Answer by ponds arm
Submitted on 5/9/2005
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pit bulls are the number one fighting dog because they are quick strong of have or can have very bad tempers i have never seen a pit to lose a dog fight.And dog knowing my dog i know their is not a dog who can mess with him my dog messed my cousins
rock.

 

Answer by jord
Submitted on 5/12/2005
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sbt is the best

 

Answer by Korsan
Submitted on 5/23/2005
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my bully did craget the head of a pittbull.
but the reseon for it was that the pittbull did   try to get my bully 2 time after that my bullmastiff did give him a leasen...

 

Answer by koha
Submitted on 5/23/2005
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I,m sorry to say to all of you all but a AKITA will wipe everything out hands down. I have seen it done many of times. They have incredible killer instinct. Piece Out Homies!

 

Answer by Eating your dogs for lunch
Submitted on 5/27/2005
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English Bull Terriers are the all that and some.  You guys better ask somebody.  They are truly the gladiators of the canine race.

 

Answer by ..
Submitted on 6/1/2005
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the presas are the best fighting dogs

 

Answer by AkitaLover_83
Submitted on 6/3/2005
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I have owned many Akitas, and most of them loved to fight.  I had one female that beat up on every dog in the neighborhood, Including a 40 lbs. female pitbull.  I'm not saying an akita will win every fight with a pitbull, but from what I've seen they handle themselves pretty well.

 

Answer by slobbers
Submitted on 6/24/2005
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a true fighting dog is a japenese akita also make lovable companions and will sacrifce their life to protect their owner... their is no other dog that comes near!!!

 

Answer by dog lover
Submitted on 7/4/2005
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look im an animal lover to heart and i own a bullmastiff and i dont want it to fight but one day my neibors had the fighting pit and my dog my bullmastiff was out well the pit got away and befor i new it they were fighting and i thought my dog is dead u know a pit agianst a bullmastiff not a match and my dog took pain with out flinching and i had to put my dog down because it was protecting my from a pit and ended up killing the pit and the rotty they sent after my dog it had a few injorys but all in all the others were dead and im not one to talk about dogs fighting but the bullmastif is at the top at the list its fear less and and withstands pain oh and just so ur wondering there were also bread for fighting back with the romans as well as being great gard dogs

 

Answer by bandog
Submitted on 7/5/2005
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I own a 1/4 Presa 1/4 corso 1/2 neo mastiff, and i must admit she is a guard dog not a fighting dog. The pit is the best they are made for fighting. They will just keep fighting no matter what, where most dogs will give up. A mastiff or bandog etc is for people big size to take big people. not that i would want to mess with a apbt either though. check out http://greys-holt-kennels.co.uk
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Answer by -apbt-bp-luvr
Submitted on 7/22/2005
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apbt r the best fighting dogs in the world idc wat yall say they can kill a tosa easily becuase of size the apbt can rip its throut open or out

 

Answer by Chris Kanuck
Submitted on 7/28/2005
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My pug can kill your bulldog!

 

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Answer by presaowner
Submitted on 8/12/2005
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i own a presa canario and i seen it fight a pitbull before, i could easily say that the pitbull didnt last to long and i had to haul my dog off of what was left, and that was not easy.. they do make a good gaurd dog point of story

 

Answer by mark uk
Submitted on 8/14/2005
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I first want to clarify a few misconceptions people (no brainers) have about APBT.
1) Pit bull - refers to any dog that fights in a pit .
2) A pitbull is not trained to go the for the throat in a fight. It punish the same bit over and over agin until the other dog cur's . They will punish the lip or other tender places relentlesy until the other dog's bottle goes.
3) An APBT- Is not even f*cking American!!!! they did not build a bigger staff...the irish done that with the Irish staffordshire bull terrier along time before it even went to ther usa. Do you want to know what the difference is? Answer...nothing apart from the name and the stupidity of asmerican's thinking it is their dog!!! ha ha ha ha
And it would stand no chance againd a 200 pound tosa, bully kutta , central caucasion shepard or any other big molloser....why?
How is a 50 pound dog going to fight a highly vicious fighter like the kutta, which is three times bigger?
I agree the APBT ( Irish Staffordshire- real name )is pound for pound the best fighter ...if the dog is pound for pound!!!! think about it...It's like prince nazeem fighting Tyson....he would get killed.
Last bit of rant....I love people who say " if pitbull's are not the best, why do they use them fore fighting more than any other breed " !
Answer cos they are cheap and easy to feed,have you ever seen a bully kutta in your neighbourhood?
Answer no because they are to expensive to buy and replance!!!!
THE POOR OWN APBT!!!!
Any way it would stand no chance against the EBT unless it was pound for pound....
Now red-necks...control your anger...lol

 

Answer by mark uk
Submitted on 8/14/2005
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I first want to clarify a few misconceptions people (no brainers) have about APBT.
1) Pit bull - refers to any dog that fights in a pit .
2) A pitbull is not trained to go  for the throat in a fight. It punish the same bit over and over agin until the other dog cur's . They will punish the lip or other tender places relentlesy until the other dog's bottle goes.
3) An APBT- Is not even f*cking American!!!! they did not build a bigger staff...the irish done that with the Irish staffordshire bull terrier along time before it even went to ther usa. Do you want to know what the difference is? Answer...nothing apart from the name and the stupidity of asmerican's thinking it is their dog!!! ha ha ha ha
And it would stand no chance againd a 200 pound tosa, bully kutta , central caucasion shepard or any other big molloser....why?
How is a 50 pound dog going to fight a highly vicious fighter like the kutta, which is three times bigger?
I agree the APBT ( Irish Staffordshire- real name )is pound for pound the best fighter ...if the dog is pound for pound!!!! think about it...It's like prince nazeem fighting Tyson....he would get killed.
Last bit of rant....I love people who say " if pitbull's are not the best, why do they use them for fighting more than any other breed " !
Answer cos they are cheap and easy to feed,have you ever seen a bully kutta in your neighbourhood?
Answer no because they are to expensive to buy and replace!!!!
THE POOR OWN APBT!!!!
Any way it would stand no chance against the EBT unless it was pound for pound....
Now red-necks...control your anger...lol

 

Answer by LUTONZ THUG
Submitted on 8/16/2005
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WELL I AM YOUNGSTER AT THE MOMENT BU TI TELL YOU I KNOW MORE ABOUT DOGS HERE THEN MOST OF U LOL THE HARDEST BREED AND THE BREED THAT LOVES THE PIT IS THE PITBULL AND THE TOSA THEM TO ARE THE REALI FIGHTING DOGZ OTHERS HAVE INTENSION AND ARE AGGRESIVE BUT NOT AS MUCH AS THEU ARE N HOW HARD THEY ARE IN A PIT SIZE N HIEGHT DOES MATTR BU TNOT ALLL WAYZ DEPENDS ON THE BREED AND WHAT KINDA DOG IT IS MEANING VECIOUS AND THAT BUT I HAVE SED WHAT  HAD TO

 

Answer by Anton111
Submitted on 8/20/2005
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LOL! This is by far the funniest thread I've encountered in the internet!Heellooo anybody home???!!! Get this girls the APBT is pound for pound the best fighting dog ever!For hundreds of years these dogs were bred to fight, endure pain,  and scratch til death.A 38lb gamebred pitbull will eat a 120 lb bullmastiff anytime!An APBT will simply tear an akita into pieces. You guys made my day LOL!  

 

Answer by franklyn
Submitted on 8/26/2005
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the pitbulls ,bullmastiff,rotty and others have the same strenght it just depends on how you bring them up.
Pl s can some one send me a fila

 

Answer by dan
Submitted on 9/4/2005
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i reckon that the true champ is the APBT,
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Answer by wolfman
Submitted on 9/5/2005
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the ability of a dog to fight depends on its temperment and training. you talk about pound for pound. so what! pick your best walter wieght fighter, and I'll pick an average heavey wieght and see what happens!
I used to train dogs for the u.s. air force to guard nucular storage areas. In the traing of these dogs they are physicaly and mentaly abused. that is how we get the desired response. my bullmastiff is a level R-II in french ring trials. bullmastiffs were bred to assist gamewardens to stop poachers. I do not condone the fighting of dogs, but with todays anobolics I could train any med/large frame dog to be dam near beatable.

 

Answer by wolfman
Submitted on 9/5/2005
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the ability of a dog to fight depends on its temperment and training. you talk about pound for pound. so what! pick your best walter wieght fighter, and I'll pick an average heavey wieght and see what happens!
I used to train dogs for the u.s. air force to guard nucular storage areas. In the traing of these dogs they are physicaly and mentaly abused. that is how we get the desired response. my bullmastiff is a level R-II in french ring trials. bullmastiffs were bred to assist gamewardens to stop poachers. I do not condone the fighting of dogs, but with todays anobolics I could train any med/large frame dog to be dam near beatable.

 

Answer by you've got to be kidding me
Submitted on 9/9/2005
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your all a bunch of dumb-asses

 

Answer by Guarddog1
Submitted on 9/12/2005
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Which is the toughest manstopper dog? Scenario late night 3am. Two to three men over 200 lbs, who are use to brawls bust through the door intent to hurt or kill you yielding bats. Which dog if you could chose ONE would you want greeting those men and becomming their nightmare. And I want a quick response from the dog and the men fight back?
Lets talk:

 

Answer by davo
Submitted on 9/22/2005
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not a chance to slow and not a hard bite

 

Answer by slobo
Submitted on 9/22/2005
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I cnt believe wat u ppl r saying.Dis can beat dis,dis pitbull can kill dat in seconds because of its speed and everyfin else.DAMN!!!Enough of dis bs. Im sik n tired of this jiberish. You wana know da truth.Da truth of a dog dat can TERMINATE any dog in one bite or two, but the 3rd,Owner if your watching, u could just say your prayers.Most ppl say a pit bull could take a dog twice its size.OK.Fair enough, but when a pitbull comes face to face with a sarplaninac.There is no possible chance for victory.I must say again.If the owner is watching we'll,get a body bag. Or shud i say.DOGGYBAG.The sarplaninac could take on at least 2 wolfs or three.But taking on three will leave some bruises or scars while a pitbull can hardly take on 1.Or by the way. Sarplaninac isnt a fighting dog or trained to kill like a pitbul or a tosa.This dog is born Predator and would kill any dog dat dares to cross his boundaries.It will only fight if it feels threatend or the master gives permission to attack but when pretecting da sheep.Better run.You guys dont believe me. search it up yourself "www.sarplaninac.com or on google". pitbull fans.Stop acting like a pitty cud kill the wrld.


 

Answer by sorlox46
Submitted on 9/25/2005
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Ok yes mastiffs and rottis and any guard dog is not built for fighting,but as guard dogs they are second to none.Pitt's do not have a strong protective nature and are worthless as pets or guard dogs.they were bred for fighting other dogs and nothing else.a pit will not stay and guard a person to the death like a mastiff or rott or Doberman will.

 

Answer by jalalal
Submitted on 10/4/2005
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hahahah

 

Answer by biggi
Submitted on 10/28/2005
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ur all forgetting the american bulldog, it could waste an akita.
but a apbt is by far the best talk some sense man u all kno that
an american bulldog could knock a rottweiler for six too.

 

Answer by dog master
Submitted on 11/3/2005
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you guys have no clue about the difference between guard dogs and fighting dogs. Mostly every type of dog has been tried for fighting, but only 2 breeds succeded, and they are tosas and pitbull terriers. bullmastiffs, filas, canarys, etc are excellent guard dogs, not fighting dogs. a hundred pound tosa or pitbull would beat any dog in a fight, and the only way a tosa would have a chance againt a pitbull if the tosa outweighs the pit by at least 40 + pounds. guard dogs do not have the stamina or game to beat a pitbull or tosa; the only way imaginable for any guard dog to beat one of these dogs, would be the guard dog because generally would be bigger than the pit, end the fight within a 2 minutes, the longer the fight goes the more in favor for the pit. I seen thousands of dog fights, and pitbull owners don't mind fighting their pit with larger dogs, unless its a larger pit or larger tosa, all others are welcome, because its always been easy money.

 

Answer by Bradley McGee
Submitted on 11/6/2005
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Chill guys,
The BM's ancestors are TRUE fighting dogs, but the original BM is a Man stopper, guard dog and dog of the rangers who went out to catch poachers at night.

English Bulldogs can't kill a APB or a Akita, what a senseless question. The type of guys who also founded the FCI ruined the English Bulldog breed. I owned a working-bred UKC Bull mastiff and it is a difference from the AKC Bull mastiff like  day and night!

Sad enough that many People waste their Time on fighting. Dogs should be bred for family dogs, hunting and herding dogs but NEVER for fighting or by the AKC bunch. NOBODY NEEDS THE AKC.

 

Answer by kronic
Submitted on 11/6/2005
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pit-bulls are the best fight dog or guard dog

 

Answer by pooface
Submitted on 11/13/2005
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american bulldogs have a good balance in people/dog aggression, and I believe in that way they are the best family pet - if u want all out dog fighting? - the tosa on paper is your dog, but remember - it ain't the size of the dog in the fight...it's the size of the fight in the dog... something to ponder for all the retards here - in english means - you cannot tell for sure by breed which dog will win! = you can have a good guess by breed, but saying tosa beats pit is foolish... grow up people!

 

Answer by Annoymous
Submitted on 11/16/2005
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The only thing a pit bull has that is an advantage for fighting is its ability to lock its jaw on the victim. But Presa canarios can typically be more ferocious and have more tenacity and they usually do not exceed 110 lbs. It doesn't matter what dog you may have its all about how you train. It could be as docile as a Great Dane or as mean as a wolf.

 

Answer by JIMI.H
Submitted on 11/18/2005
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Tosa Inu is the best fighter,when my tosa have a 6 months,he kills the pittbul without problems...

 

Answer by Corso 187
Submitted on 11/20/2005
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A bullmastiff definitely is not a fighting dog.The cane corso is by far the best mastiff as far as fighting or guarding.They are the only mastiffs in the world that have the stamina,agility and endurance to go the distance with any so called fighting dog.Their power matched with these 3 necessities to be considered a fighter makes it virtually the best fighting mastiff if it had to fight any so called fighting dog.I've seen a cane corso literally crush a pitbulls skull like a peanut protecting it's owners children from a pit that got loose.Corsos by nature are muzzle or head grabbers.Not neck biters like pits.This is their purpose on the farms in Sicily requiring them quite capable of protecting livestock from the likes of wolves or bears.If you love your pit or whatever you have being a so called fighting dog you will keep him clear of a Cane Corso.Trust me.

 

Answer by mani
Submitted on 11/26/2005
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People in this forum are very entertaining.

 

Answer by Needles to be said
Submitted on 12/2/2005
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I read that someone has been doing more educating on english than answering to the questions in the forum. Loose should be Lose and First of all followed by Fist of all. That is a real idiot. That person must have been spending more time playing with him or herself to long. But as I said before I have both dog Bullmastiff and Pitbull, and power vs speed is actually what we are dealing with. The speed of a Pitbull and the power of a Bullmastiff. That's easy Shaq vs Iverson who would win. Also I would like to add that it doesn't matter about pitt'sbeing breed to fight anybody can breed any dog to fight. It is strickly on if the dog wants to win or not and if the trainer get their dog ready to fight.

 

Answer by pg556
Submitted on 12/9/2005
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Most of you guys need to really do some research on guard dogs and fighting dogs. There are many fighting dogs in the world but only 2 of them have been consistently used. That is the APBT and Japan's Tosa. Remember that the real dogmen are not looking for the biggest baddest fighting dog. They want small fighting dogs( like the apbt) because they are less expensive to feed and the fights are more action-packed. You can also keep alot more of them on your yard. Therefore, the smaller apbt'shave been better bred. The Presa is an awsome dog. So is the Bull Mastiff, Dogo, Fila, all of them. They each served and continue serving a purpose like security work and hunting wild animals. But the true fighting dogs are the APBT and the Tosa because they are gamer than the other dogs. Have you noticed that all the dogs being compared to the APBT are much larger than a pit? As someone said before, all things being equal, no canine can withstand the APBT. This dog has been bred for many generations to fight other dogs. The same goes for the Tosa. All the other breeds mentioned have been bred for hunting and guarding. If you want a good wild boar or wild cat hunting dog, you can't go wrong with the Dogo Argetino. Want a large and fierce guard dog? Bull Mastiff, Presa and Fila! Another thing that was'ntmentioned was that most of  the real game bred apbt'sare not man aggressive. They need to be friendly with people because you have the two dog handlers in the pit plus the ref. A man aggessive pit would be too dangerous and that is why most dog men prefer a friendly apbt over a man aggressive pit.

 

Answer by German Shep Owner
Submitted on 12/9/2005
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I have no idea what dog is the better fighter. I just know I could never engage my dog in these pit fights, that's just me. I will say that I messed up a few weeks ago and didn't put my dog in his pen. I went to work and came home and he was gone. He stayed gone for 10 days. I had given up on him but I'll be damn if he didn't come home on that 10th day. However he came home with only 3-legs, his hind leg was missing. After a $600 vet bill and talking them out of putting them to sleep he's doing pretty good. This all leads to my point. My neighbor's mastiff must have been behind my house and I didn't know it. I took my German Shepherd out to let him take a leak but I was just holding his leash and didn't have it attached. This mastiff comes roaring around the side of my house and my shepherd engages him (on 3 legs). My shepherd still has 3 days before he gets his stiches out but he went right at this 170 pound monster. Wolf, my shepherd, goes about 105 pounds. It happened so fast, as I was going for my ball bat, my shep lost his balance because of that missing leg. The mastiff was just biting the side of his neck. My Shepherd regains his footing and gets a hold of the side of the mastiff's neck pretty good. The mastiff turns and gives up his other shoulder to my dog and then finally makes a break back towards my neighbor's yard. My shepherd even pursues him but I finally catch him and get his stubborn arse back in my house. So, who knows who is the toughest, define toughest. In a pit my sheperd would just be trying a way to get out while a pit would rip him apart. However if something comes in his territory it seems he'd fight anything, even with a missing appendage, peace.

 

Answer by BLACK
Submitted on 12/11/2005
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HOW I KNOW THIS IS A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE THAT DONT KNOW WHAT THERE TALKING ABOUT

 

Answer by rafc lunatic
Submitted on 12/14/2005
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whoehaha those american suckers think that the apbt is unbeatable,it's just american bluff!!!!!i'mfrom belgium,a country so little that you probably can't see it on a worldcard,but i have the good sense that the presa canario and the dogo argentino are much stronger than the apbt!!!!

 

Answer by YOU HATERS
Submitted on 12/17/2005
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I think most of yall are dog fighting haters.
I agree with Pas and English check 100%. You are all IDIOTS. Any dog lover would have more sense than most of you!

 

Answer by true dogo
Submitted on 12/23/2005
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Macker, stop embarrasing urself.
I dont belive u seen much, honestly, just wanna give the dogo a bad name in a place where it dont fits just cause of its looks that resembles to a giant pit, but a dogo differs alot from a pit.
If you go for dogfighting, go for the game breed lines of tosa inu and the pitts.
If you want a pp dog go for GS or a mallanois.
If you want a hogdog, finding catching and holding, then i go for the dogo as the first choice.
If you want a short range hog catchdog, ill go for a AB working lines or a good pit even tough the dogo are as good but has a nose and therfore a huntingdog with finding, winding prey abilities. not just a short range dog that you release when the prey is in sight jam up and catch a hold of it.
Most AB and pits are good at catching but not in finding, they lack nose.
Others than that youll find better examples in almost any area in other breeds.
The dogo is a huntingdog, traditional monteria criolla.
It would be useless if it had all the strong dogfighting instincts as some of the breeds who made it, referring to the early english bulldog,boxer,douge de bordeaux, EBT and foremost the perro presa cordoba fighting dog.
Many of the breeds who made the dogo at that time among them the EBT is almost unrecognizable comparing then and the standards today.
To balance these traits the pointer and irish wolfhound for example was mixed in`, breeds that has minor interest in fighting amongst eachother or at all, but good preydrive and noses, very important traits for a hunting dog.
Dogs that when released, focus the fight on THEMSELFES instead of the boar would be totally useless as u need to hunt with a pack of dogs when taking on a 200 kilo + boar.
Thats why sometimes a gamebreed dog can be a disadvantage in this way of hunting, and therfore are not used so often.
Yes, the dogo can fight and will in some cases do so, same sex, teritory and food and so forth, but thats the case with most dominant breeeds including GS, Dobies, rotts, and even poudles. Thats a thing that occours in almost every breed, and goes with individuals.
The dogo is by those who now the breed known for not being the part to start the fight among two dogs, even tough it clearly in same sexes case will try to dominance the scene.
A gamebreed dog such as a gamebreed pit will behave clearly different. will see a upcoming fight as play, wagging its tail, fun and clearly provoke and start a fight,not to defend it self not by aggression but by lust.
It has great eager to fight, it will do what it was made for naturally.
Just as good dogo would, but not fighting a dog, just the boar.
The dogo was made for big game hunting, secondly pp, even tough there are many better choises in that arena for several reasons.
But the purpose with the dogo argentino has never been to create a new fighting dog, if that was the case the the now exstinct, and also the base of the dogo the fighting dog of cordoba would have been just fine.
But shure the fighting dogs qualities are desireble traits in boarhunting, but with the dogo it is preserved but not with the tought of a another dog or for that case a human to be the target, only the boar.
If you want a fighting dog, then u should go with the pitts and tosas who has dogfighting in mind when was made and will be the most sucessfull choise in thet arena.
But dont dont spread your crap of all your false crap, and things you have not and will not see.

Best wishes with your dog, hope ur not will destroy him as his owner seems to bee.

 

Answer by wolf lover
Submitted on 12/28/2005
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Listen, you are all talking about pits and tosas. But, you have forgotten the wolf hybrid. True, it is not a fighting dog, but if provoked, a wolf hybrid will rip a tosa'snuts off. I would know. My big 250 dog(a wolf hybrid) had taken on 2 mastiffs, a number of pits and a tosa, winning each. So chew on that.

 

Answer by ts
Submitted on 1/13/2006
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bullmastiffs are some good dogs, but it mainly depends on how they are trained and raised mine is a half breed so she is kind of small but she is quick and bays wild hogs

 

Answer by Fritz Hill
Submitted on 1/14/2006
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Yes pound for pound no dog will beat a pit bull in a Pit. But out in the open it's a new ball game. I had a Boxer that killed 2 pits 2 rotts & a chow in my back yard. I never fault him & don't know why these dogs jumped or Doug under my fence. I just know they where dead when I got home from work.  

 

Answer by LatinoAsianPride
Submitted on 1/16/2006
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Trying to find the best finding dog is not really possible. Think, Iím crazy let me explain short sweet and to the point. Letís say you THINK you have found the best fighting dog out there. You fight the best dogs in the world. Now you may think since you have fought unbelievable opponents youíre the best but somewhere out in this cold harsh world will be a dog that can whip yours.

Itís like saying a big strong black person is a better fighter then a small smart, quick Asian. Or that a good sized well trained White person is better then a well rounded motivated Arabic. Itís impossible to tell. One might be bigger, stronger, smarter, more trained, or even more motivated. One day the black person might defeat the White and Arabic person. Then the next day the Asian Will beat them all.

Now these traits may be very helpful but they donít guarantee victory. You could do the most research possible and have the most equipped dog to fight and it will lose to someone or something else. Now, Iím not here to knock the small APBT, or the huge mastiffs, or anything in between. But there will always be good fighting dogs out there.

But if you want my opinion Iím sure APBT do win a lot but that doesnít mean the best. Iím sure if a 150 pound mastiff were to fall on a 30 pound APBT that it would do some damage. But I would have to say the most fit fighting dog would be a (WILD) White Wove because fighting is what it does everyday to survive they have (Size, quickness, strength, smarts) (Now this doesnít guarantee any thing but is good to have). I mean if you think about it the White Wolves fight with tigers to live (Have a average life span of 12 years in wild) (Not Bad) so they are at least pretty decent at fighting if you feel my groove. But if you donít consider White Wolves a dog then a White Wove Hybrid because they have all the traits mentioned above then what ever the other dog has.

Many say that wolves run away scared. Yes, this is true the wolf may run away so it doesnít have to fight. But if pushed and threatened with its territory it would fight with all it has. And that the most important element is will power.  

ďItís not the size of the dog in the fight but the fight in the dogĒ Some Agree with it more then others.

So mock and make fun all you want but thatís what it comes down to there will always be a stronger dog.


 

Answer by KEEPING IT REAL
Submitted on 2/1/2006
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YOU ALL PROBABLY HAVEN'T EVER EVEN SEEN A FIGHT, A GAME BRED DOGO WITH GOOD BLOOD LINES WILL CUR ANY PIT, DEAD GAME OR NOT, AFTER ABOUT  THIRTY MINUTES THE PIT WONT EVEN SCRATCH ANY MORE. FACT IS ALL OF YOU THAT KEEP SAYING A DOGO OR ANY OTHER DOG IS A HUNTING DOG IS JUST PLAIN STUPID. SURE FIGHTING ABILITY MAY DIFFER BUT GAMENESS IS THE TEST OF ANY FIGHTER AND DOG    CAN BE DEAD GAME, YES APBT IS MORE LIKELY TO AQUIRE IT THROUGH GOOD BLOOD LINES BUT THERE IS NO REASON WHY ONE DOG WILL BE A CUR AND ANOTHER BE DEAD GAME. THE POINT IS IF YOU HAVE A 120 POUND DEAD GAME DOGO, NO PIT WILL STAND A CHANCE WHEREAS A TOSA OF EQUAL SIZE WOULD FAIR BETTER. AND LETS NOT LET ALL YOU APBT JACKERS OUT THERE TALK CRAZY, WHEN YOU BEAT A TOSA OR DOGO, THATS CAUSE YOU HAVE A DEAD GAME PIT AGAINST A CUR HOUSE DOG. BUT I DO AGREE THAT A 30-40 LBS PIT IS ONE OF THE MOST FEARLESS FIGHTING MACHINE AND NO DOG OF EQUAL WEIGHT CAN STAND A CHANCE UNLESS THE PIT IS A CUR

 

Answer by bob
Submitted on 2/2/2006
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how many of you jackasses even seen a dog fight?  i bet my dad can whip your dad

 

Answer by hpbt
Submitted on 2/5/2006
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I`ve read through the whole topic and came to the following conclusion: there is maybe 1 or 2 guys who spoke before me, who have actually seen a living, breathing, real flesh and blood pit bull. The rest of you are just talking BS! The argument is useless! I have bred apbts and asts for more than 10 years. I have (unfortunately) seen dogfights when one or two of my dogs got loose by accident or when another dog came into our yard. I have seen a barely 25pound apbt grab a rotti by the throat and spin it like a ragdoll. We were three strong men standing dumbfounded because by the time we realized a fight was going on in our back yard (5 minutes tops) there was nothing for us to do. The poor dog that came into the yard was dead. The apbt was and is bred for GAME! Look after what GAME is and don't`t mix it up with aggression. Aggression is not the same. The only dog bred for GAME is the apbt. I rest my case.

 

Answer by ant
Submitted on 2/6/2006
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there the best

 

Answer by brucutu
Submitted on 2/14/2006
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I think that if you treat a pet to be a fighter it will be..
I had a pit bull in Brazil, and i had him as a pet, and not to be a fighter...
one day i was walking and a fila came out of the gate and ran towards to me and the first thing i thought was that the fila was so stupid to come into a fight against a pit..
the last thing i know my pit got in trouble, and my pit could not walk for 2weeks, and the fila was normal by the next day. So i think that every breed has the bad ass dog.......

 

Answer by c.j
Submitted on 2/18/2006
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neal and macker are the two most stupidest people on this site. i have a 70 pound apbt that will shred anything you two have to throw at it

 

Answer by michael wilson
Submitted on 2/18/2006
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pittbulls have no chance with presa canario.

 

Answer by Big D
Submitted on 2/19/2006
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I've seen many times an Akita defeat the Largest& and fastest of pitbulls. Tosa's are byfar the greatest fighter of them all. I've also seen the bullmastiff kick the dog mess out of a pitbull 7 out of 10 times.







 

Answer by Bullmastiff Owner
Submitted on 3/6/2006
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What a sad lot you all are , if you are really men take up pit fighting yourselves and leave the dogs alone !!
Seems to me you lot are sados without the guts to exp unarmed combat in person.
Trust idiots like you to ruin good people trusting dogs you dont deserve the honour of owning such noble animmals !!

 

Answer by SAM
Submitted on 3/25/2006
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i got a 130 pound red nose apbt that can jump 7 feet run 31 mph its much moore agile then any tosa or akita or presa , any mastif, or dogo. and i have seen alot of HUGE pure bred rednose pits that are by far .... the Ninjas of the dog world evry other large breed is pretty much a wresler or sumo guy. some of these breeds have more of a naturel instinct to gaurd property like the presa or mastifs, but we should all stop playing games and accept the FACT the the LARGE PITBULL (not the little 30 pounders) but the 100 pounders and the 80 pounders are by far the perfected version of all these other pit bull look alikes when it comes to actuel PHYSICAL CAPABILITYS. they also are great hunting dogs i dont think a big slow maastif is good at things like that . the only thing i dont like too much is how pits are so damn people freindly and a little bit to dog agressive .

 

Answer by GoodCat
Submitted on 3/29/2006
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No, an English bulldog can never beat an akita or a pitbull, even poorly breed Pits and Akitas  would still prevail quite easily.

 

Answer by Reflection
Submitted on 4/9/2006
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I agree with "English Check", most all of you need to learn how to read and write.  

It is very apparent that this forum is full of individuals with low self esteem, and an even lower intelligence.  

Y'all seem to have a need to compensate for something by having a testosterone, ego trip at the expense of these beautiful dogs.  

If any of you had one intelligent bone in your body you would spend your time loving these dogs and keeping them out of the hands of poor dog owners like you.  

I would never sell a dog to any of you PERIOD!

Get a life!  Dogs are our friends and they look out for us.  How about we look out for them and their best interests for a change.  

Quit trying to hide your own weaknesses by appearing to be tough by having a "tough" dog.  

Why don't you all go buy a toy poodle and then we will see who is insecure about themselves.  Only a truly strong and centered individual could do that.  

If you really loved dogs you wouldn't let them suffer at the expense of your own ego.  Why don't you all get a clue...  

And an English lesson or two.  

 

Answer by crazy
Submitted on 4/11/2006
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cane corso are the best guard dogs and a tosa would deffently beat a pit in a fight pound for pound the pit might be the toughtest dog but tosa are way out of a pits weight class wouldn't you think? A 160lbs tosa would beat a 65lbs pit any day I mean come on lets be realistic

 

Answer by ANON
Submitted on 4/18/2006
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I have an an Old English Mastiff do any of you know what that is is was breed by the romans as a war dog to fight in batttles. look it up!!!! its the biggest dog there is and some get to 300+ pounds in weight and can get to 35" in height. there is no bigger stronger dog as i said it was breed for war and used in the wars. look it Old English Mastiffs.!!!

 

Answer by Frightened
Submitted on 4/21/2006
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Wow. I'm stunned and quite frightened to see such depravity and sickness in humans who lack intelligence and compassion for animals. You guys are the sorriest human beings. There's NO excuse for your getting a thrill over fighting dogs that get maimed for life or are killed in a torturous manner. WHY is this fun to you all?

 

Answer by J Weav
Submitted on 4/24/2006
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People and their opinions?  I have seen the most inept of fighting dogs take on the supposed kings of the pit.  In the end all that really matters is the dog not the breed, or the training.  the end result is to many assholes that think bumping/ fighting their dogs is cool, fun, etc.  To end all this stupid banter, I will say that I have a Dogue De Bordeaux and have ownded a rott.  After owning said breeds I will say one thing  they will protect their owner no matter what.  And in the end I would put either of my dogs against anothers when it comes to protecting me.  Side note guard dogs to a large extent means fighting dog b/c it is hard to guard/protect if there is no fighting ability

 

Answer by reason
Submitted on 4/24/2006
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The fact is that deliberately entering dogs into a fight is sick, ignorant, and depraved.  Just what, exactly, is the point of this forum?  My guess is the TPS.  That stands for Tiny Pecker Syndrome.  If any good can come out of this, it will be when several of you mouth-breathers finally gather to hash it out.  That will be when the dogs turn on you, and your soft, pimpled bits are turned to squish and gore.  The rest of humanity will be grateful for the peace of mind that results from your removal from the gene pool.

 

Answer by Huey
Submitted on 5/8/2006
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Hi, i would like to know which dog will win.
If Tosa vs APBT which one will win....

 

Answer by bully lover
Submitted on 5/22/2006
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Where do you guys come from? Which breed can "rip" or "eat" another breed??  All of you should be banned from owning animals at all!  You have serious issues if you get your jollys from watching animals attack each other...what are you afraid to get in the ring yourself?  I suggest you take up ultimate fighting and start training yourselves if you are so blood hungry.  Try tasting your own blood instead of watching your poor animals.  Bullys are an amazing companion, family and yes guard dog.  I have met labs and goldens more vicious than bullys.  The beauty of this breed is they are laid back and loving only getting aggressive when their family or belongings are in danger.  My bull mastiff has never met a child she didn't want to slobber with kisses.  Get your act together men...get some therapy or taking up fighting yourself!!!  cheers True_Pits and  BIG BULLY BULLMASTIFF I wish I could rescue your dogs...

 

Answer by Its all good
Submitted on 5/24/2006
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YA! Those dogs i will say are good fighting dogs but, i dont think they compare 2 shar pei's That is a true and first fighting dog, look it up nick name is a chinese fighting dog, mine won 4 out of the 4 fights it was in first was a huskey, then akita, then Neapolitan Mastiff, and his lates 1 a pit an skrewed him up pretty bad! so dont get me rong those r all great fighting dogs and family dogs as well but when it comes down to it shar pei is a true fighting breed if giveing the option

 

Answer by d ice
Submitted on 5/31/2006
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my bullmastiff would take out a pitt bull bull terrier german shepard or akita anyday

 

Answer by beware of the owner
Submitted on 6/1/2006
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My buddy and I breed mastiffs and American's  He has this mastiff built more muscular than any of my pits.This pure beast is kut and weights a buck85 vicious son of a !itch. When I meet him, the dog, I thought it was "honey I blew up the dog" it looks just like a pit. Light brown blue eyes,my buddy tells curious peeps thats it some rare "Gorebreed". His name is "Tuffy" picture like when lions and tigers breed, the dogs from "Hulk". A sight to see I've checked google but nuth'n like it, sick!!!

 

Answer by ronald
Submitted on 6/12/2006
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do american bull dogs have lock jaw?
i heard they have the strongest bite of any dog is this true

 

Answer by Nicoderm CQ
Submitted on 6/16/2006
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All I'm saying about those dogs is my neighbor's dogs are 130lb+ Rotties. They want to kill everything they see. When the were of the leash and ran up to my 90lb pit. My pit who is not game bred stood on his back and the rottie was standing there
shaking like a punk. You all can keep telling yourselves Pits aren't the real deal
but your dogs definitely know better.

 

Answer by lil rott
Submitted on 6/19/2006
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The rottweiler can beat a bullmastiff I've been studying dogs for almost 7 years and I'm working on becoming a scientist on them
a rottweiler pound for pound is considered to be the the strongest dogs.
The Dogs that can fight by fact:
Rottweiler
Pitbull
Tosa Inu
Presa Canario
Cane Corso
Neopolitan Mastiff
Bully Kutta
Gull Terr
Ca De Bou
American Bulldog
Bull and Terrier Breeds
Mastiffs(English,Spanish,Tibetan,Boerboel etc.

 

Answer by the nameless one
Submitted on 7/1/2006
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Tosa'sbeat Pit Bulls 90% of the time in Japanese fights.

 

Answer by walkingdead
Submitted on 7/4/2006
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there isnt a dog made that a pitbull cant chew to peices. a big muscular neck only protects the throat until the flesh has been ripped from it. anyone who doubts the ability of the finest gamedog ever created has never seen one work. period.

 

Answer by walkingdead
Submitted on 7/4/2006
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and an english bulldog would suffer a terrible death if put in the box with a apbt. as with every other breed recognized by the akc, they've been bred for show for so long they now lack working ability. nice dogs tho.

 

Answer by PitKing
Submitted on 7/10/2006
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Pits are the best fighting dog.  Also they dont need to be trained to fight, it's in there blood.

 

Answer by wolf hybrid chik
Submitted on 7/13/2006
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English bulldogs are wusses, and by the way all of you, have you realized people don't use pit bulls as police dogs? well thats because they don't have the power to take down a fully grown man. do you ever here stories about men getting mauled by them? I don't. thats why the police use the awesome dogs: German shepherds and rottweilers.

 

Answer by jake
Submitted on 7/18/2006
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the American bulldog is the toughest dog iv seen them fight and there strength is amazing there's no dog as hard as an American bulldog and thats a well known fact


 

Answer by are you for real
Submitted on 7/20/2006
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This may well be one of the most idiotic discussions I've seen in a while!!  Leave the animals out of your sadistic fantasies, step into the pit yourselves if you want blood....

 

Answer by You people are Really STUPID
Submitted on 7/20/2006
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The only person that had said anything worth mentioning was tru_pit...and the only one that was right!!! It doesn't take a rocket scientist to LOOK UP THE INFO ON THE NET....you will find exactly what tru_pit said. Mastiffs are the MOST LAID BACK...friendliest, sweetest, most protective dog there is...they are not fighters....they run from rabbits...they run from poodles....COME ON PEOPLE....get real...Some of the most powerful dogs out there are small dogs...The dog DOES NOT HAVE TO BE A MONSTER...in weight....only heart!! Learn how to read, learn how to use the unternet...or go back to school!!! It appears that a lot of you need to! Good Day FOOLS!

 

Answer by You people are Stupid
Submitted on 7/20/2006
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Wow...how about you fools on here!!

 

Answer by connor
Submitted on 7/26/2006
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english bull terriers rule

 

Answer by sup hers proof that pitbulls are not the toughest dog
Submitted on 8/4/2006
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http://dog-training.bluehost.cz/degeneration/dogfighting.htm
thers proof that pitbulls get owned by real fighting dogs

 

Answer by doberman
Submitted on 8/11/2006
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no there 2 small

 

Answer by anonimus
Submitted on 8/16/2006
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no a english bulldog is a slow dog does not really have a bite and and is now and days a inside pet that does not even like to excesize

 

Answer by anonimus
Submitted on 8/21/2006
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pit and bulls dont have anything on an Akita  I've seen them get eatten by Akita's

 

Answer by Dead Game
Submitted on 8/30/2006
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The best fighting dog is the APBT, bar none. Pound for pound, they put every other dog to shame. Why? Because they were specifically bred for this purpose. They have one thing no other breed of dog has. Gameness. A lot of people talk the talk, but let's throw any dog in the box, and see how long it's willing to go. No other dog will fight to the death. No other dog will scratch across the ring on two broken legs, pushing itself across the floor with only its back legs. No other dog will lay there dying, still in holds, thinking that IT is winning. This is why the APBT is and will remain the best dog on dog combatant in the world. Tosas are very good fighters, but they go by a different set of rules. They don't go for hours like a pit bull can. I'm not saying a bulldog will win every fight, but it will die thinking it is winning. And the longer a fight lasts, the better the chance that the bulldog is gonna win. As for people talking about huge pit bulls. Yeah right. They are a medium sized dog. I'd say the majority weigh somewhere between 35-55 lbs. Larger ones tend to be looked down upon. I would suggest some of you research your dog breeds. Once again, there is only one dog bred for gameness. The American Pit Bull Terrier.

 

Answer by dog lover
Submitted on 9/2/2006
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Hasnt anyone ever heard that its the fight in the dog not the dog in the fight, there is no doubt there are some breeds that are bread for fighting and perform predictably, but i have seen the generally perceived lovable crazy golden retriever fight for over an hour for female access and whip the hell out of a rotty,  and a 70 pound pit bull to get it, he was extremely energetic and determined got all cut up but not much worse for the wear, he was an avid long distance swimmer, his owner said he used to follow the boat swinning from falmouth to marthas vineyard and this might have given him his great endurance, he was fearless and must have been, a born alpha dog

 

Answer by witters
Submitted on 9/6/2006
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I feel pity for you and your dogs.  I have a Japanese Akita and he does what he was bred to do.  He both protects & devotes his life to me.  I could not care less about which dog can kill the other, he is a family pet first, guard dog second.    It is the tempremants of the owners and not the dogs that should be brought into question. Why would you want to have an agressive dog?  

 

Answer by Bulldog
Submitted on 9/7/2006
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THE BULLDOG IS THE TOUGHEST DOG AROUND.  
None of your dog breads compare favorably to the bullodog.  Bulldogs are nice, but if provoked they could take out any of the dogs you folks mentioned.  The true English Bulldog is the toughest dog in the world.  Bulldogs rule.  Bulldogs are very strong and very fast and very powerful.  None of your dog breads compare favorably to the true king----the BULLDOG!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

 

Answer by rob
Submitted on 9/7/2006
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Old english bulldog was a great dog, with very strong jaws, very stong body, very nice speed in fighting and good stamina.Old english bulldog in far take down a bulls,and killed easy other dogs like a mastiffs and other big dogs than old english bulldogs.I think that old english bulldog can to win a pit bull or akita, pit bull created from old english bulldog and other breeds,but modern english bulldog created from old english bulldog and pug, modern english bulldogs cant to win pit bull or akita.

 

Answer by Wanderer
Submitted on 9/13/2006
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hmmmmmmm

 

Answer by split sides
Submitted on 9/14/2006
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I didn't believe it possible...

 

Answer by zeberdee off the magic roundabout
Submitted on 9/20/2006
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YES IVE SEEN A BULLDOG KILL AN AKITA BUT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE PITBULL!!!  

 

Answer by Mi$ty
Submitted on 9/25/2006
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You guys forgot Bully Kutta..

 

Answer by skwee-bo
Submitted on 9/27/2006
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you guys are so funny.  i own a game pit.  she is 61 lbs exactly.  guess what? she put a bull mastiff on his back.  i had an akita.  they got into it over some chicken bones.  he couldnt put his teeth on her.  why?  CUZ A GAME PIT IS TO QUICK.  THATS WHY THEY CALL THEM A "PIT" BULL.  you know like the pit they fight in.  you dont call a bull mastiff a pit mastiff.  and pretty much every country that has fighting dogs, such as the bully kutta, has had apbt impoted and bred into them at one point or another.  and just for the record.  i dont fight dogs.  i believe it is inhumane.  and they will get into fights with out my help.  i dont even clip thier ears or dock thier tails.  just something to think about.  my lil 61 lbs game pit shook off 4 dogs that jumped her.  a male rottie, eli blood pit(thats a stock fighting blood), a pit mix, and a german shepard mix.  she was 10 months old.  she was bit once on her back leg.  the rottie had his ankle broke, the pit mix has her throat ripped open and german shep mix had her whole muzzel shredded.  she put the pit on the ground and comensed to chewing.  KNOW THIS...  IT IS NOT THE SIZE OF THE DOG IN THE FIGHT BUT THE SIZE OF THE FIGHT IN THE DOG.   there is no dog with as much heart, as much backbone, as much fire in the blood as a good blooded american pit bull terrier.  man bred these dogs to be killers.  and they where bred in america. a country that has food and we dont eat our dogs.  think about that.

 

Answer by juan33
Submitted on 10/4/2006
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el staffordshire terrier es mas musculoso que el pibull

 

Answer by truth teller
Submitted on 10/8/2006
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The toughest, most fearless most couragous dog on earth is the Staffordshire Bull Terrier without question. The rotty, Bull Mastiff, etc would get ripped to shreds by the Staffy, Staffys are the gladiators of the canine world. Short, stocky and powerfull, they are the Mike Tyson of dogs. It isnt the size of the dog in the fight its the size of the fight in the dog.

STAFFORDSHIRE BULL TERRIER ARE THE ULTIMATE FIGHTING DOG AND 99% OF THE TIME THEY WOULD DESTROY ANY OTHER BREED UNLESS THEY WERE HAVING A VERY VERY BAD DAY

Any one that say other wise is deluded and needs to wake up and smell the coffee

 

Answer by gotem
Submitted on 10/13/2006
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i seen a yr/ old apbt,thrown in the pit with a10 month presa(80p)and they messed each

other up...neither one curred. just bumping- who knows -if both dogs are game?

 

Answer by malwahound
Submitted on 10/17/2006
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i own a couple of game bred bull terriers in india they are very good. they are as good as the pitbulls that are imported to india. the bull terr/gull terr is also equally good against a pit.
if u want to put a dog against a tosa or a dogo a bully kutta would be a good choice. what im trying to say is that these dogs are good matched against eachother. and what kind of an idiot even toks of fighting bullmastifs any dog which is agressive towards humans cannot be a gamedog. so ur mastifs and rots etc are guard dogs only capable of biting humans

 

Answer by gdubs
Submitted on 10/18/2006
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I have a Bull mastiff, and hes pretty dosile,although he only has 3 months he is already the boss, we have a 2 year old lab cross pointer and he call the shots, he is completely fearless. there is no way you can say which is the toughest breed , a friend of mine has a rotty that weighs 58 kilos and i saw him basically murder a japanese akita in less than 2 minutes, i have also seen a irish wolf hound completely destroy a pitbull , and they are not fighting dogs at all. its not the size of the dog in the fight its the size of the fight in the dog.........

 

Answer by Bill hoo
Submitted on 10/27/2006
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No an English Bulldog is not game enough or big enought to take down an APBT or an Akita Inu,I have both and believe me you dont want to get on da wrong side of my akita i had it on its lead in the park and sum dumb ass let his pit bull off the lead and it came and atacked my full grown American Akita my American akita mauled it 2 pieces...literally nut im not saying it would take down evry APBT as it depends on the actuall dog not the breed

 

Answer by Pete
Submitted on 10/31/2006
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Only if it's got a Chihauhua to watch it's back.

 

Answer by killarott
Submitted on 11/4/2006
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hae all u guys r fagzzz get a rott up against a dumb APBT

 

Answer by dozer
Submitted on 11/4/2006
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no they are not a fighting dog.
they can kill another dog do to their size and strenth but they don't have the true gameness to do it every time anainst other dogs that are game breed

 

Answer by greg
Submitted on 11/6/2006
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we'll,to corect you all,i have a rottweiler that has been in a fight with ,2 pitt'syes 2 pitt's,a German Shepard ,a french mastiff{about 150lbs}.my dog weighs 108lbs,'female',and no other dog has came close to beaten her,she killed a pitt bull in truly 8 seconds with one bite!!,i do not fight her at all,but people who live next to me never have their dogs caged in. so i can say honestly the rottie is a extremely tough dog

 

Answer by Unkown
Submitted on 11/10/2006
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The Top Fighting Dogs Are                                      
Pit Bull
Rottweiler
German Shepard
Shar Pei
Bull Mastiff                              

 

Answer by bandog
Submitted on 11/20/2006
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OMG are u all midgets or what ...
without dog ,no man ??
peekids .........

 

Answer by BMart
Submitted on 11/27/2006
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Thats a morbid question.

 

Answer by Killa
Submitted on 11/28/2006
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I honestly think that the shar pei can outfight any dog and thats what ive seen and thats how it is.

 

Answer by cav
Submitted on 11/30/2006
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english bull terriers are sick dogs but not fightin dogs   da sickest dog for fighting and the meanest  dog is the japanese akita deyld rip a pitbull to shreads for jokes there to strong and powerfull

 

Answer by Matagi
Submitted on 12/5/2006
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Ok guys now u got me involved.  Everyone seems to forget about the Akita.  Akita Inu is a bad ass and will hang with any of these dogs.  But an akita inu is a japanese akita.  The one u really gotta watch out for is the "Great Japanese Dog" which is also known as an American Akita.  Its like an akita inu on steroids.  What they did was take an akita inu and breed it with mastiffs pitbulls and a ton of other bad ass dogs and that is how u get the American Akita.  Why do u think Akita Inu's weight 60 - 80lbs and American Akitas's can weigh up to 140lbs and have heads the size of bears.  I personally own a male and female american akita and together they can take down an 800lb bear.  Do u think they worried about a 60lb pit.  Dont get me wrong there are other dogs out there that will give them a good run but they are deff at the top and were created to fight the larger Tosa's in Japan.  Dont ever sleep on an American Akita.  

 

Answer by TheCybologist
Submitted on 12/6/2006
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I own A Pitt."She" is 73lbs of mass....no fat. I did not raise her to fight. She is a house dog. I got her when I had a 137lbs Rott. He was abused and a little aggressive. She put him in his place when she was a pup. Hands down I have to say she is the most loving dog I have ever owned....but put her in a situation where it comes to teeth.....I say the pitt is gonna win. I have had 2 dogs attack her....She had them on the ground by the neck...looking at me for the ok.....before I could blink.  I have always told her to stand down...but if I were to give her the nod....Holy S&%t......I wouldn't want to imagine what would be left.

 

Answer by Stephanie Vong
Submitted on 12/15/2006
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My tiger could eat all of your dogs at once.  Haha!

 

Answer by junglez85
Submitted on 12/16/2006
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hey mutha fukaz let us be the judge and tell us where the fuking videos are.


THE DOGO WILL EAT ALL K-9's nuff sed

 

Answer by will
Submitted on 12/24/2006
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this is crazy stuff some of u have cluse into the dog fighting worl most do not as for the ones in favor of mastiffs and bull mastiffs being great fighting dogs and rottweilers and so on please im only gonna give facts its ur choice to here them atcual dogmen would agree in america the pit bull is and always has been number one however there are chances that u dont have a gamebred pit or u have a pit too large or u have a quit dog meaning will quit in a fight and yes theres a great possibillity that a number of diff dogs would beat this one he doesnt have the urge to fight like the true game bred pits a true gamebred pit is always number one in american land however tosa inu is the one and only dog in the world that can fight with a pit never knowing the outcome it could be the tosa or the pit the tosa always outweighs the pit so size that up

 

Answer by smsailing1
Submitted on 1/1/2007
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having watched many dogs rolled or pitted,  i know for a fact that the best fighting dogs pound for pound is the apbt.....but and i say but when they r pitted against the kangel they nearly always loose but we r talking about a much much larger dog.In turkey the pit and the kangel r fought sometimes but the kangel wins nearly 100% of the time ........also the caucasian wins most of the time but i think the caucasian charvarka and the kangel r related they r very similar

 

Answer by useyorhead
Submitted on 1/10/2007
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the only reason people use pitbulls for dog fighting is because of their stamina.  people like getting value for money, they want the fight to last.  a decent english bull or staffordshire bull terrier would easily kill a pit bull, too quickly for the "fans".  thats why they use pit bulls.  as for the tosa'sand such...?never seen them fight so cant comment.  as for the "pitbulls are the toughest" brigade?  I doubt they've ever seen a dog fight.  the dogs are game, true, but weight still count for something, just like a boxer.

 

Answer by jamessmith
Submitted on 1/15/2007
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bull mastift is the stoget fighting in the wordl couse i no i got one my one is 5 and wen i went down the rode my dog nerer kill a pit bull and a bull dog to ger

 

Answer by Ross
Submitted on 1/22/2007
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Bullmastiffs are loyal to their owners and are not really bred for fighting but i would them up there with the toughest dogs if it came down to it.. They just dont act on it as much as some breeds.

 

Answer by Meghan
Submitted on 2/8/2007
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Bull Mastiffs aren't mean or fighting dogs. Pitbulls are fighters. I have a pitbull and he got lose and attacked a doberman. There both ok but my pitbull did some serious damage though. So pitbulls are the fighters!!

 

Answer by Jac
Submitted on 2/8/2007
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Which is a better guard dog, the boerboel or the bullmastif

 

Answer by grimloch99
Submitted on 2/12/2007
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As for your classes those are junk i have seen a German Shepard tear  pitbull to shreds and yes it was a fighting pit  the shepard was defending it owner and it totally desomated the pitbull in like 20 secs he bit into the side of its neck and like 10 volient shakes it was dead that easy plain and simple its not the size of the dog it is the size of the fight in the animal

 

Answer by JJ
Submitted on 2/13/2007
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ur all thick saying apbt are the toughest they grow from 18 inches to 22 and weigh up to 22 to 110 pounds but american bulldogs grow from 22 inches to 28inches and weigh 70 to 130 pounds and are twice as powerfull as a apbt.

 

Answer by Be Serious
Submitted on 2/19/2007
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The Presa Canario, or Canary Island Dog was bred to fight, not sure where the above person got there info.  Although each dog is a case by case basis, the Rotti has a recorded average bite of over 120 lbs psi over the pit bull.  A pit just has the strongest "lb per lb".  Though the bite is slightly more, theoretically and most likely the Presa will always beat the Rotti do do it's size and tenacious and more athletic ability.  But let's face it, it all depends on the heart and drive of the dog in question.

 

Answer by yougottabekiddin
Submitted on 2/19/2007
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It's always fun to read such a discussion & to see how quick it goes to pot as the brags start rolling.  I'm also amazed that people aren't wise enough to realize that the arguement of which breed can beat another breed is a foolish & pointless discussion.  Sort of like saying all left handed people can out box all right handed people (or some such utter nonsense).  It's all relative & all impossible to prove.  

I've been raising & training dogs for a lot of years.  Seen a lot of stuff.  I've seen pits get killed by a mountain cur.  I've seen some pretty rough/tough dogs get killed by a female mastiff (not a dog fighter, she just didn't tolerate other dogs coming into her yard). So all the discussion of which breed can whip another is sort of like the two kids on the play ground fighting over whose dad can beat up the other dads.  

In general terms, there are certain breeds bred to be game for fighting other dogs.  It's also laughable at how easily it is for people to say a 40 lb dog can't beat a 200 lbs one.  You stick around dogs long enough & you'll find that those smaller dogs can move faster.  A dog can't win a fight with his insides hanging on his outsides & that's what happens with certain kinds of dogs.  A lot of livestock guardians just open up their opponents that way.  In the end, it only matters that on the day 2 dogs meet & get into it... who is the better on that day.  My livestock guardians just leave the remains of any predator who enters their domain.  Does that mean I'm going to load them up to go prove a point to someone?  Maybe pick a fight with some pit owner or something?  No way because I don't care if they're tougher than someone else's.

More importantly, I spend a LOT of time fighting breed ban legislation so that our big powerful working breeds aren't legislated into extinction.  Just a thought

 

Answer by big daddy
Submitted on 3/1/2007
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i love pits but i saw a akita dog walk the flor with a 50lb game pit but still say a pit is best but them akita dogs are monster

 

Answer by deadpirate
Submitted on 3/5/2007
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A pitbull does not have a chance aginst a Fila. Heres why, There once was a prize fighting pit. This pit bull was bad to the bone ya know, dont get me wrong they are bad mofos. But, this one pit had over 300 wins under his collar. Unbeatable right, ha. The owner of this pit also had a Fila, one day the pit got out of his cage. He and the Fila got into it, guess what happened next. The Fila grabbed this pit by his head and beat him aginst a tree until dead. The owner was dumbfounded he could not believe his prize fighting pit was just destroyed as if it were a toy. If that dont tell you, your just as smart as the pit. Savvy....

 

Answer by youngblood  (BLOOD)
Submitted on 3/9/2007
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all you guys just dont get it.PIT,TOSA,ETC,BLA,BLA,BLA they call me blood for a reason. but it wasn't all because of the other guy me was bloody aswell. usee its not the dog in the fight its the fight in the dog. AND A TRUE GAME DOG IS A (DEAD GAME) dog. but all of this nonsence is funny though so to go along eith this I have something that i only talk about its mean its baddddd to the BONE and nothing can touch it. its a hynea from africa

 

Answer by Gnasher
Submitted on 3/13/2007
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omg you gais a pug is like the toughest breed and no one not even a bulldog or godzilla or like Hitler could take one down.

I'm masturbatin' as I write this.

 

Answer by GhoulKraft
Submitted on 3/24/2007
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I would put my money on the Presa Canario. Its so muscular and powerful. I just don't see any dog coming close to beating it. If any dog could I would wager an APBT. That is a fight I would love to see!

 

Answer by The law man
Submitted on 4/1/2007
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Pit Fighting is illegal and an investigation has Started to lock up all you dog fighters

 

Answer by al
Submitted on 4/9/2007
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no a bullmastiff isnt a fighting dog it is a very good guard dog tho i have a 1yr old bullmastiff and a 1yr old cane corso that is very tuff the cane corso is serious i feed my dogs gravy train and turkey bones on a daily baces and there teeth are strong the bullmastiff is no challenge for a cane corso cane corso r the stongest dogs on earth

 

Answer by BOSS DOG
Submitted on 4/25/2007
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BULLMASTIFF IS NOT A FIGHTING DOG BUT IT IS A GUARD DOG . I HAVE BOTH BULLMASTIFF AND APBT ; AND LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING , MY BULLMASTIFF WILL RIP A NEW ASS-HOLE TO ANYBODY WHO COMES INTO MY HOUSE BUT IN A PIT MY APBT WILL TAKE HIM ; MY BULLMASTIFF IS 135LB AND MY APBT IS 85LB BUT HE COULD STILL TAKE MY BULLMASTIFF IN A DOG-PIT

 

Answer by Tyler
Submitted on 4/27/2007
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Bullmastiff's arent fighting dogs but they are good watch dogs...and yes APBT can get over 100 lbs and bullmastiff can get over 130 lbs..i have a male AKC registered bullmastiff who weighs 155lbs and stands 27 1/2 at the whithers

 

Answer by ww80ww
Submitted on 5/4/2007
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I cant understand why this conversation is even still going on.  No one should be pinning one dog against another to see who fights best. These are all peoples opinions and not expert advice.  Why people would want to destroy a dogs demenor and teach it to be aggresive is very dangerous and stupid.  Wait till the dog turns on you and goes for the owners throat.  You are asking for trouble.

 

Answer by irishman
Submitted on 5/23/2007
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u never fight a dog more dan a pound over r under his own weight! u neva fight a staff against a bull mastiff.. pound 4 pound a staff or pitbull is way betr fightr dan a bull mastiff! case closed

 

Answer by heng shang
Submitted on 5/31/2007
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the toughest dog I ever came across, was one I had for lunch in a korean restaurant. He was tough as boot leather

 

Answer by rully
Submitted on 6/6/2007
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hey !!!!
i dount know if u hear of an breed called bull terrier :)) but i cant ashure u thath an bt will kill 2 bull mastiffs while sleeping and an akita while hes drinking.
i asure u of thath and i want to mention thath i dont own an bt. i own an bullmastiff

 

Answer by Sieb Corso
Submitted on 6/11/2007
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Bull Mastiffs are big awkward dogs. They are good property protectors though. My neighbor has two and they are very slow. I have 3 pits and and just lost one Cane Corso/Pit mix over the rainbow bridge. My cane corso pit mix weighed 88 pounds and easily dominated my other three well sized pits. He had all the size muscle and a larger jaw than the pits, also had more slack skin to protect his neck area. Guys always wonder how tough their dog is, this is natural, of course you wish them no harm or harm to other dogs. Mine had their arguments but worked it out quickly. But there is something about Pits, that make them tough. My corso was strong but if he wasn't a pit mix he would not have known how to handle himself with such control and precision. Big pits and big pit mixes are just plain unbeatable.

 

Answer by trinidad killerpitt
Submitted on 6/15/2007
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pound 4 pound or not a pit is the king in the ring .in trinidad i would not say we ,but i test my pit by rolling him with three different breeds of dog ,rott,pressa,bullmastiff.and these go on for somtimes 20min,and ofcouse u no who wins

 

Answer by dog lover
Submitted on 6/16/2007
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you people make me sick.I own a staff, boxer and akita they are all rescue dogs because of idiots like you lot. What sort of twisted people are u getting off on animals suffering? U don't deserve to have animals.

 

Answer by jeremy
Submitted on 6/18/2007
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question i just got a fila and i want to know if they van hang with the big boys or not

 

Answer by google111
Submitted on 6/28/2007
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Ok, about the grammer issue, the internet (or at least this site) is for self expression, we are discussing dog fights, not anyone's grammatical prowess

 

Answer by Spoonher
Submitted on 7/5/2007
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english bulldog would have a massive heart attack,and die in the first 5 minutes

 

Answer by TosaKing
Submitted on 7/12/2007
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yo people a tosa is by far best fighting dog out their and apbt would be second an bullmastif well would be in 4th place sorry but it the truth the list is rite

 

Answer by rocco
Submitted on 7/15/2007
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   you guys know nothing about the history of Rotts, the roman empire used these dogs for war, known as roman rotts, used to control prisoners,attack enemys, when the roman empire fell, they left these dogs in Germany, the Germans used them for herding. There are only 3 breeds trusted and used by law enforcement, GERMAN SHEPPARD,ROTTS,MAYBE DOBERMANS. ROTTS ARE BUILT AND BREED FOR WAR(GOOGLE ROMAN ROTTS)THEY CAN GO HEAD TO HEAD WITH ANY DOG EXCEPT THE ITALIAN MASTIFF(WHICH CAN KILL ANY DOG YOU LISTED, ALSO THE PRESO CANARO WITH THE ITALIAN MASTIFF ARE THE TWO TOP DOGS. MY FRIENDS ITALIAN MASTIFF GOT IN A FIGHT WITH 3 AMERICAN BULL TERRIES(VENICE CA) AND KILLED ALL 3.
              ROCCO

 

Answer by ROCCO
Submitted on 7/16/2007
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     OF ALL THE DOGS LISTED THERE ARE ONLY TWO DOGS AT THE TOP, NEOPOLITIN MASTIFF(MALES AVERAGE 200-250 LBS) HAVE VERY LOOSE SKIN WERE A PIT OR ROTT CAN NOT GET A GRIP ON, MY FRIEND IN VENICE CA HAD 3 BIG PIT BULLS ATTACK HIS NEOPOLITIN MASTIFFS AT ONCE, AS THE MASTIFF WAS KILLING THE FIRST ONE THE PITS WERE TRYING TO GET A HOLD OF HIS LOOSE SKIN, AS THE MASTIFF FINISHED OF THE FIRST, IT KILLED THE SECOND THEN THE THIRD, NEO MASTIFF WAS 260LBS, HE DID GET 80 STITCHES ON HIS KNECK THOUGH.PRESO CANARIO DOGS ARE ANOTHER USED TO ATTACK LIONS 2 AT A TIME. I FEEL THESE TWO BREEDS STAND ALONE BY FAR, I ALSO I'M NOT FOR FIGHTING ANY DOG, I FEEL IT SICKENING TO SEE.

 

Answer by ROCCO
Submitted on 7/17/2007
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   TWO FACTS, TOUGHEST DOG, A NUMBER ONE, IS THE NEOPOLITIN MASTIFF,WEIGHT, MALE 200-250 LBS EXTREMLY WRINKLED VERY LOOSE SKIN AROUND WHOLE BODY, HEAD BIGGER THEN ANY OTHER DOG. SECOND PRESO CANARIO, HAS FRONT TEETH NO OTHER DOG BREEDS HAVE. THEY MAY NOT BE THE BEST FIGHTING DOG, BUT MIKE TYSON WASN'T THE BEST BOXER IN HIS PRIME, JUST PURE QUICK KNOCK OUT, IS WHAT ANY BREEDER WOULD WANT, WHO WOULD WANT TO FIGHT DOGS ANYWAY, EVERY DUDE SHOULD GET A DOG BREED TO DEAL WITH PEOPLE,(INTRUDERS,ROBBERS ETC.)ROTTWEILLERS ARE ON THE TOP OF THE LIST , USED BY THE ROMAN EMPIRE TO ATTACK AND CONTROL THE ENEMY. WHEN THE ROMAN EMPIRE FELL THEY LEFT THESE DOGS IN GERMANY, WERE THE FARMERS USED THEM FOR HERDING AND BY THE WAY I HAVE TWO ROTTS, THEY DON'T BARK AT PEOPLE, THEY SIT IN SILENCE UNTILL THE INTRUDER CROSSES A CERTAIN LINE, THEN THEY SPRING FOR PROTECTION.

 

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