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WHICH DOG IS THE BEST FIGHT DOG?

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Question by GUSS
Submitted on 11/28/2003
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WHICH DOG IS THE BEST FIGHT DOG?


Answer by aldogreenock
Submitted on 1/9/2004
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pound for pound APBT is the best at fighting

a Fila would beat it though through size and power


 

Answer by rich
Submitted on 1/28/2004
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I think that a staffordshire bull terrier is the best fighting dog. What do you guys think?

 

Answer by FiGhTeR
Submitted on 1/30/2004
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STAFFS R WEAK BTS R DA BEST

 

Answer by redmysticalrose
Submitted on 1/31/2004
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My question is why would someone even ask such a sick question? If you get your kicks out of watching dogs fight you need help and you need to spend some quality time in jail. I really wouldnt want to know what breed is the best due to the fact that I'm not a sick and disgusting human. I came her to find out info on the bullmastiff breed to find this?

 

Answer by pitman666
Submitted on 2/5/2004
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the apbt is the ultimate fighting dog!! the satffordshire bul terrior is totally different in attitude and will granted the fact hold its own againtst most breeds it was not ment for fighting...

 

Answer by bradleyn
Submitted on 2/10/2004
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i think the best fighter is the "dogo argentino" i know it kicks asses in all south amreica, although itīs not a breed made for fighting. just check it out !!!

 

Answer by argentino
Submitted on 2/24/2004
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bradleyn, I'm from Argentina. Dogo argentino is the perfected "perro de pelea cordobes" which means "cordobe's fighting dog" (Cordoba is a province of Argentina). It is used for huntin puma and "jabalí" (wild pigs), but breeders like to game them to proove them. They match them with APBT and EBT or any other game dog. Dogo is not the best breed for game dogs, but some of them are quiet good. But iīve never seen a dogo defeating a pit bull or a bull terrier. They just give good match.

 

Answer by DOGGYSTYLE
Submitted on 3/1/2004
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I was looking to get a dog, probably a staffy, but now I am thinking against it, not because I think they are dangerous but because everytime I think of one now I think of you people goading these poor animals into fights they dont need to have, why dont you attach yourself with gloves that have steel claws in them and do it to yourselves, you say these dogs are proud and brave and that is something which I do not doubt but I bet none of you would be willing to get into the ring with one.

 

Answer by baby cham
Submitted on 3/5/2004
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tosa inu r the best fighters

 

Answer by Fart Face Monkey
Submitted on 3/12/2004
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you guys are dorks man...go find something to do.  i farted

 

Answer by Durock
Submitted on 3/18/2004
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American Bulldogs- pound for pound the best fighters.

 

Answer by delboy
Submitted on 3/20/2004
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REGARDLESS WHAT YOU GUYS SAY THE ENGLISH BULL TERRIER WOULD WIPE THE FLOOR WITH ANY OF YOUR SUGGESTIONS SO FAR!!!!!

 

Answer by Yorkies Rule
Submitted on 3/25/2004
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If it's pound for pound the best fighting dog you're looking for, then hands down it's the Yorkshire Terrier.  Those things are small but vicious.

 

Answer by Rico
Submitted on 3/27/2004
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Pitbull and Amstaff evidenttly. you people don't know that yet? And to the people who think differently wake up suckers! you bet your life on other dog against a pit ?? I'm sure you don't.

 

Answer by junfan105
Submitted on 3/30/2004
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Do all you guys wear England shirts and have small cocks? It certainly sounds like it...

 

Answer by Calvy
Submitted on 3/31/2004
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Personally the American Pit Bull Terrier is top of the line in fighting, even though if they are never bred for, or abused they are very friendly and willing to please their masters.

American Pit Bulls are premium fighters, to answer your question, although it is my belief that if you don't eat your dog doesn't either, hence if your dog dies, you die.

Soon enough dog fighting will stop.

 

Answer by Dantraag
Submitted on 4/1/2004
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Well, I think if you research the topic you will find that it is probably a tie between the Tosa Inu and the American Pit Bull Terrier.  Many say Pit Bulls are the most ferocious and quick tempered while the Tosas are the strongest and most determined.  But, I'm sure if you had a strong dog of any breed it could do well in a fight.  It all depends on the dog.  I am a huge fan of the Akita and have seen them do some pretty heavy damage, though if I had to pic one ultimate fighting dog I would have to go with the Tosa.

 

Answer by momo
Submitted on 4/4/2004
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you guys have forgot about the rottweiler although it was not made to fight pound for pound a trained rott wiil kill a pit

 

Answer by Bully Boy
Submitted on 4/4/2004
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Performance bred american Bulldogs pound for pound and gameness are best, some may not have the determination of a pit because they are missing terrier but if u added a terrier dog to a American Bulldog u would get a Pit. American Bulldogs are much stronger.

 

Answer by Kev
Submitted on 4/4/2004
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AKITAS is very god fighther,

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Answer by mac
Submitted on 4/9/2004
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GET A LIFE.have you nothing better to do than brag about how hard your dogs are.dogs are pets not extensions of your so called machismo or street cred.

 

Answer by deez
Submitted on 4/12/2004
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pitbulls hands down.  All the other breeds you are mentioning are just big soft dogs that look good.  American bulldogs quit and no other dog comes close to the stamina of gameness of a pit.  I realize that the size of some of the other dogs may impress you but its obvious you are not dog men.  People are amazed by pits for a reason.  They are the top fighting dogs hands down.  I really dont understand how this is even an argument

 

Answer by deez
Submitted on 4/12/2004
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pitbulls hands down.  All the other breeds you are mentioning are just big soft dogs that look good.  American bulldogs quit and no other dog comes close to the stanima of gameness of a pit.  I realize that the size of some of the other dogs may impress you but its obvious you are not dog men.  People are amazed by pits for a reason.  They are the top fighting dogs hands down.  I really dont understand how this is even an argument

 

Answer by Filafan
Submitted on 4/15/2004
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Filas kill pitbulls. Look it up.
I don't breed dogs to fight, but I live next door to someone who does, and his damn pitbulls keep jumping my fence to get my smaller dogs.
So I'm buying a Fila.

Jump this.

 

Answer by kane
Submitted on 4/17/2004
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IN MY HONEST OPINION PITBULLS ARE THE MOST EXPERIENCED FIGHTERS. I SAY THIS BECAUSE I OWNED MANY OF SO CALLED FIGHTING DOGS LIKE ROTTS,AKITAS,AND AMERICAN BULLDOGS.THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT MOST PITBULLS BITES ARE PRESSURED AND DEADLIER THAN ANY OTHER DOG.ANY GAME-BRED PITBULLS USUALLY END A FIGHT IN ABOUT 5-7 MINUTES MAX.THE TOSA,ROTTS,AND ANY BIGGER DOG USUALLY RUN OUT OF STAMINA BEFORE THE REAL FIGHT BEGINS.NOT TO SAY THAT SOME DOGS HAVE LUCK AGAINST A PITBULL,BUT THATS USUALLY ABOUT IT. ESPESCIALLY IF THE PITBULL IS INEXPERIENCED.BUT TO A WELL EXPERIENCED PIT HIS 2nd OR 3rd BITE SHOULD BE HIS DEATHLOCK.TO INEXPERIENCED DOGFIGHTERS WATCH WHITEFANG.

 

Answer by hezay
Submitted on 4/19/2004
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i think bull terrier is the bet fighting dog because his mouth is full of strong teeth and staff bull terrier are great too

 

Answer by montana
Submitted on 4/19/2004
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most clever people know that the Akita kicks ass its got the (K I) 4 most of you fools that means killer instinct, which few dogs have got thats why the Akita is a killer dog, i would bet my house on a 130 pound Akita to wipe the floor with any of the dogs you guys have come up with

 

Answer by kyreme
Submitted on 4/22/2004
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pits are the master of fighting there is no way any dog could challenge a Pitt daaaaaaah

 

Answer by Jakob
Submitted on 4/24/2004
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Well what about the southafrican Boerboel??? I do not own one, but they are described as being almost as heavy as a english mastiff (80-90 kg) and as agile and athletic as a small terrier..... I think pound for pound, they would beat most of the dogs you have mentioned.... Have anyone heard about a Boerboel being matched in a fight??

 

Answer by Sasho
Submitted on 4/27/2004
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English Staffordshire terriers are to me the best fighters. Although they are smaller, they can keep on fighting for longer time than any other dog.

 

Answer by dog man
Submitted on 4/27/2004
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The akita is an amazing fighting dog.
I have had several encounters with some ignorant folkes letting their pibulls run free.  One damn asshole was walking his pit off leash, on a trail through the woods behind my neighborhood.  I was walking my akita and the pit attacked my dog. The fight did not last 10 seconds and the pit was on the ground with my 130 pound beast wrapped around his hole neck.  I have had a couple of bad run ins like this with several different pitbulls and orhter breeds, and my akita has dominated every time.  My akita almost killed my friends pitbull who thought it would be cool to watch them spar.  Well he did not think it was very cool when he spent alot money at the vet to get his dog stitched up.  

 

Answer by dog man
Submitted on 4/27/2004
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NiKOla
What the hell is a Ilirian Shepard?

 

Answer by heavy D
Submitted on 4/28/2004
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ANYBODY WHO DOESNT KNOW THE TOSA INU IS THE BEST FIGHTER,IS OBLIVIOUSLY SLOW.

 

Answer by Bull Dawg
Submitted on 4/29/2004
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Listen up punks, I have owned pit bulls all my life. They have jumped the fence a few times to attack other dogs. They have literally almost killed Akita's, Rott's, and Am Bulldogs.  Lucky for those Stupid ass dogs I was there to save their pathetic lives. Hands down the Pit bull is the Supreme Species. The owner of the 2 Akita,s that were Chewed up by my Pit bull is about to sue my ass. Call him up and he'll let you know that pit bulls are dominant over any thing. Come on man, a long time ago in England they were bred to take down Bears and Bulls. You can't mess with that kind of stamina and power.Peace

 

Answer by Powerhouse
Submitted on 4/29/2004
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Ya'llare all crazy, the Akita and the Dogo Argentina are great fighters but NO dog and I mean NO dog could ever kick a BULLMASTIFFS ass. Look at the size for instance: They are built like a Rottweiler but faster and stronger, they have lock jaw just like a pit and they can easily hold down a 250 pound man - its a fact..look it up !!! Yes there is all kinds of dogs that can fight great but the best has to be the BULLMASTIFF, thats why they cost around 1,000 dollars. They were voted the best Guard Dog 8 years in a row and still holds that title. So somebody reply to this a better dog than a BULLMASTIFF and I will have an arguement you cant beat !!!

 

Answer by listen up
Submitted on 4/29/2004
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English bullterrier is the best fighting dog.My bullterrier is kicking pit bulls big time.

 

Answer by dog man
Submitted on 4/30/2004
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And by the way powerhouse.  NO dog has lockjaw.  There is no such thing.  If you think a dog has something preventing its mouth from opening, when it bites, you're just plain retarded. And should not be posting any comments on this site.

 

Answer by Igor
Submitted on 4/30/2004
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Well there are interesting things here and I think there is no answer to this question.
The sarplaninac is a dog that could kill a bear ,and even if its a shepherd he is a good match for all game breed dogs.He is a mollosser with heavy bones and outstanding strength plus he has an 4inch long coat which gives him extra protection.A pit bull is no match for this dog because it couldn't harm him because of his coat,but I do agree pits are one of the best fighting dogs.

 

Answer by Legionar
Submitted on 4/30/2004
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Igor, Sharplaninac is a strong dog,but it would not last a  long time against:pitbull,staff or bullterrier.To me the best fighting dog is a a bullterrier.


What do you people think about bullteriers?

 

Answer by MAX THE PITBULL
Submitted on 5/1/2004
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POWERHOUSE.HAVE YOU GOT A KEY MY JAWS HAVE LOCKED UP

 

Answer by HEAVY D
Submitted on 5/2/2004
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  THE BREED ITSELF DOESNT NESESARILY MAKE THE PARTICULAR DOG A GREAT FIGHTER,THE WAY A DOG FIGHTS HAS ALOT TO DO WITH THE PARTICULAR DOGS CHARACTER....BEING OF GOOD STOCK DOESNT HURT EITHER THOUGH.

 

Answer by knowledge
Submitted on 5/2/2004
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Okay are we talking pound for pound?  How could any one mention a rot, a bull mastiff, a 130 pound akita.  Pound for pound if the pit weighed 130 then lets see the akita take it.  Put the akita up against a presa canario.  I own american bulldogs and would love to say that they are the best but I can't.  There were those few little words pound for pound.  I that case I would have to say a pit.  They fight for fun it is a game to them.  They are not even mad when they fight.  The baddest dog over all would have to be the presa canario.  Do the research get the knowledge

 

Answer by Bull Dawg
Submitted on 5/4/2004
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Bull Terriers are up there with the pit, but The Pit bull is still the higher dog. My friend owns a bull terrier and that thing is crazier than some of my pits. But a well bred pit bull has something average dogs ( Bull Mastiff, American bull dog, Akita, Rotts etc.) don't have, GAMENESS. A pit bull will not quit until either his foe or himself is dead. I mean nothing will stop him, nothing. It's been proven that other breeds give up after a few minutes. They put up a front with their size and viciousness. When it comes to battle they all turn their back after a few minutes except for the pit bull. That's the bottom line! Peace

 

Answer by Dave
Submitted on 5/4/2004
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Jakob mentioned the Southafrican Boerboel above. I have seen the Boerboel in several fights and I have seen a pitbull and a Staffordshire terrier been severly injured by this type of dog. The Pit actually died of an infection a few days later because of the wounds....... The Boerboel has the abillity to use its weight in combination with his powerfull bite. A dog trainer I know about in Southafrica normally uses Rots and German sheperds in his makin of watchdogs. For the fun of it he tried the Boerboel one time, and he realized that the cushin he used in he training (where the dogs bite the trainers arm) was far from enough. The Boer just bit right through it..... Be careful not to exaggerate the Pits abillities.. By the way, the Boerboel has its origins in the old dog from Holland "Bullenbijter" which is suppose to be one of the most ferocious dogs ever seen.
I also have been in Kochi, Japan to see Tosas in the Tosa-Ken fighting center against Pits. The pits does not stand a chance against the Tosas, only one time did I see a Pit win. Conclusion: Pits are a dying race in dogfighting.....

 

Answer by akita
Submitted on 5/4/2004
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akitas by a mile

 

Answer by Erik
Submitted on 5/5/2004
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by far the best fighting dog is a presa canario there bread to bring down bulls.  

 

Answer by shut-UP dumbass!
Submitted on 5/5/2004
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DAVE YOU ARE LIEING.YOU AIN'T SEEN NOTHING DON'T KNOW NOTHING.I CAN TELL YOU ARE A BLOW-HARD!SHUT-UP dave.everyBODY AIN'T STUPID!

 

Answer by EAT THIS FOOL!
Submitted on 5/5/2004
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its BRED YOU DUMB-CLUCK!BREAD IS WHAT YOU EAT!BY THE WAY EAT ME.

 

Answer by Dave
Submitted on 5/6/2004
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How funny. All these negative comments that are put in here.... I get the feeling, that most of the people in here, havenīt got any experience in handling or training any dogs at all. But obviously most people have an opinion on this matter. I think it is because these dogs that we are discussing here are amazing animals, that fascinates all of us. But please.....Letīs keep this discussion clean.
And to the inexperienced people in here: Speaking is silver, but silence is gold (famous word of saying).....

 

Answer by SHUT UP LITTLE DAVIE
Submitted on 5/8/2004
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YEAH WELL YOU BETTER KEEP YOUR TRAP SHUT THEN DAVE.

 

Answer by Big Dog
Submitted on 5/9/2004
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o yeh and to the dumb ass who said he wants to get a fila to kill them pitbulls, well u better hope that your neighbors pitbulls are not as tough as mine, i recomend u either get a bandog which is a mix between a pitbull and a mastif, or a Tosa, filas are weak, get a Tosa

 

Answer by Mr. Dogman
Submitted on 5/9/2004
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This seems most improbable. Few would probably disagree with the claim that pound for-pound the American Pit Bull Terrier is the finest fighting dog in the world. Moreover, the smaller Pits Bull are usually the gamest and the most talented. Thus, one of these little dogs can often defeat a substantially larger dog, especially if the other dog is not a Pit Bull. However, it should be noted that serious dog fighters are very careful to closely match weights in the most intensely contested matches. A difference of only a few pounds can count a lot in a dog fight.

Moreover, the claim that a smaller dog has a great advantage by being able to get to the throat more readily becomes very silly on close examination. (Editors Tosa on right) By that logic, a Jack Russell Terrier should be able to defeat the small Pit Bull, and a Chihuahua should be able to kill the Jack Russell, thus establishing the Chihuahua as the most formidable dog of all!

In point of fact, if a 30 pound Pit Bull went against a huge Fila like Gabriel, Jetson, Chaka, or Reno, the larger dog would crush the life out of the smaller dog long before the superior gameness or athletic ability of the Pit Bull came into play. Assuming the small Pit Bull did get a throat hold, it would most likely get nothing more than a mouthful of dewlap. It is commonly held that the only two real fighting dogs in the world are the American Pit Bull Terrier and the Japanese Tosa. I have heard it suggested that the ultra-rare Majorcan Presa (aka Ca de Bou) might also qualify. The Korean Jindo (looks like an Akita) is also reputed to be a very tough customer. Middle Asian Ovcharkas are also reported to be used for fighting in their homeland and may possess some talent.

Mixed matches between Pit Bulls and Tosas have produced mixed results. In Japan, one informant states, the Tosas defeat the Pit Bulls about 90 percent of the time. In such matches in the United States, the Pit Bulls have, with few exceptions, been victorious. However, such encounters typically involve Pit Bulls that are seasoned fighting dogs pitted against Tosas that have been little more than house pets.

Most Tosa breeders will have a story about how a dog from their bloodlines has killed or maimed a Pit Bull. It should be pointed out that there is a good deal of variation in the size and quality among both Tosas and Pit Bulls, the latter breed having suffered from the scourge of puppy mill breeding. In the case of a 140 pound Tosa of the finest East Japan fighting bloodlines against a 40 pound Pit Bull of indifferent breeding, I would have little doubt about the outcome.

On the other hand, a seasoned, game bred, game tested Pit Bull should be able to hold his own against almost any Tosa. As a matter of interest, several years ago a correspondent to the old Bulldog Review Magazine mentioned having visited Taiwan. He inquired about the presence of the Tosa fighting subculture in Taiwan. He was told that they had been killed off by Pit Bulls. One prominent Tosa breeder reported seeing four mixed matches in Hungary. One involved a large male Tosa against a Neapolitan Mastiff. This was a very one-sided slaughter that was soon halted to stop further harm to the Neo.

In the second bout, a smallish, young female Tosa fought to a draw with a male Pit Bull that was nearly as large as herself. In the other two bouts, the Tosas decisively defeated the Pit Bulls. In one of these contests, the Pit Bull was seriously mangled, loosing an eye in the fight. In both fights, the Tosas became more dominant as the fight progressed. Evidently, the Pit Bulls had tired from wrestling with the larger dogs. The same breeder mentioned having seen two spontaneous, accidental fights between Tosa'sand Fila'sat American dog shows. In both cases the Tosas very much dominated the action while it lasted.  

Proceeding to some of the other mastiff type breeds, the American Bulldog varies considerably in size and temperament. They seem to be capable of fighting ferociously and capable for a short period of time and then losing interest quickly. My informant tells me of a mixed match which an American Bulldog punished an Argentine Dogo non stop for about 15 minutes and then quit when the Dogo finally fought back. I have also heard of a mixed match between a Tosa and an American Bulldog in which the Bulldog quickly jumped out of the ring to avoid further punishment. The Argentine Dogo was developed primarily as a hunting /pack dog. It does have some fighting breeds in its make up and can give a good account of itself in a scrap, but not on the same level as level as the "real fighting dogs".

The Presa Canario has its origins as a fighting dog. Today, it is largely a reconstructed breed, with heavy infusions of English Mastiff and American Staffordshire Terrier. As a fighter, it is reported to be similar to the American Bulldog - furiously aggressive for the first few minutes of the fight but lacking in gameness and staying power. The Dogue de Bordeaux has not been used as a fighting dog for about a century. In a mixed match with the Tosa witnessed by my principle informant, the two dogs collided in the middle of the ring and the Tosa knocked the Dogue de Bordeaux cold.

The Cane Corso looks like a fighting dog, but really isn’t. In functions, it is more akin to the Fila; being primarily an estate guardian and protector of livestock. Also like Fila, it is a good pack dog. One of the leading Cane breeders tells me that he has as many as seven male Canes playing together peaceably. When all is said an done, the "Toughest Dog in the World" is probably either a 60 or 70 pound Pit Bull dog or a Tosa weighing about 130 pounds.

The Fila should not be considered a fighting dog. It was never bred for that purpose. It should be pointed out that the specialized fighting dogs are often of limited utility for much else. Many, if not most, Pit Bulls are too friendly to make effective property protectors, and many of them are stolen themselves.

A fair percentage of highly bred game Pit Bulls from the best fighting bloodlines are quite man-shy, and the same seems to be true with of Tosas, quite frequently, Other Pit Bulls and Tosas are very "waggy" in fact, for people whose primary interest in a dog is personal protection, I usually recommend the Fila over the Tosa, even though I dearly love my Tosa and am very partial to the latter breed.

 

Answer by dave
Submitted on 5/10/2004
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Thanks to Mr. Dogman for his contribution to this discussion. Clearly this is a very experienced dog owner, who knows what he is talking about. I give you 4 stars.

 

Answer by atique
Submitted on 5/10/2004
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akitas by far but pits are not far, but akitas are so big and so strong

 

Answer by look around
Submitted on 5/10/2004
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you dumb ass dave that was a tosa news letter editors reprint!click on toughest fighting breed mixed match you will find it.

 

Answer by BIGDOG
Submitted on 5/10/2004
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so what firedragon you put my nickname on something.nobodys worried about your lies.you are a twister of the facts.fuk off!

 

Answer by BIG DOG
Submitted on 5/10/2004
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FIREFAGGOT FUK YOU AND YOUR TOSAS!

 

Answer by Mr.Dogman
Submitted on 5/10/2004
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Yeh you are right it is a editors reprint, but its my reprint, i wrote the letter, and i would also like to add a few things, i keep seeing everyone talk about the akitas, well let me tell u this, akitas "WERE" used as fighting dogs in japan, then they started useing the tosa, how ever the akitas were pretty much domanating the fights, UNTILL the Japanese started to mix Euro dogs with the tosa, and eventually the Tosa's took over the dog fighting seen in japan, so yes akitas were used as fighting dogs once befor, but please remember they are not at all as tough as the fighting dogs of today, I have seen and watched alot of dog fights in my life, and im gonna have to say, that if you are from the U.S.A. and you are wanting to get into dog fighting, well the pitbulls is where its at, there is a reason why everyone uses pitbulls in the U.S. its because They are the dogs that win fights and make there owner money, alot of times its not a ego thing, like i have the toughest dog around, its more of a money thing, people fight these dogs to make money, now if a akita or any other breed of dog had the ability to take down these pitbulls in the box, they would obvisouly be used instead of the pitbull, because people want to win fights TO  win money$$$, so remember that, and appreciate the complament Dave

 

Answer by YOUR NOT JAN
Submitted on 5/10/2004
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OH YES YOUR JAN LIBOREL NOW!BOTHERING WITH THIS CRAP!

 

Answer by BIGDOG
Submitted on 5/10/2004
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COME THIS GUY IS NOT THE EDITOR.HE CAN'T EVEN SPELL.I HAVE --     READ THIS EDITOR FOR YEARS.SORRY DUDE I LOVE PITS BUT YOU AIN'T JAN!

 

Answer by Matt
Submitted on 5/11/2004
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I think that the Rottweiler would beat any dog. My Rott has killed two Pits and a German Shepard all at once with the help of my friends Rott.

 

Answer by clarkdog
Submitted on 5/12/2004
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My caucasian mountain will eat any dog for dinner. He weighs 170lbs and is solid muscle. He was bread to hunt bear and I'm still paying a settlement to a neighbor for what he did to their 95lbs of american pitt bull.

 

Answer by airedaleman
Submitted on 5/12/2004
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no one mentions the airedale, why? i understand its quite well known that an airedale will defeat any dog of the same weight. only once though as a youngster did i actually see a 'dale whup up on a pit. but neither was really experienced. can anyone tell me what website to go to in order to find out about the different types of fighting dogs? airedales in particular.

 

Answer by airedaleman
Submitted on 5/12/2004
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no one mentions the airedale, why? i understand its quite well known that an airedale will defeat any dog of the same weight. only once though as a youngster did i actually see a 'dale whup up on a pit. but neither was really experienced. can anyone tell me what website to go to in order to find out about the different types of fighting dogs? airedales in particular.

 

Answer by Shadyylee
Submitted on 5/12/2004
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LOL at the person acting like the editor, thats a buddie of mine, and no he isnt the editor but a VERY respected dog man, and a 95 pund pit, damn no such thing as a game pit that weighs 95 punds dont wonder why it got its ass kicked by a caucasian moutain, But like my buddie said, there is a reason why people fight pits, there the toughest dog, and if u dont belive me, lets set a date where we can fight one of my GAME pits against your dog? to pussie to? go figures

 

Answer by pits rule!
Submitted on 5/13/2004
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airedales are rough great fighter.they do not whip the very best pits i know this for i'veseenit.neither does anything else for that matter!

 

Answer by Dave
Submitted on 5/13/2004
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To Airedaleman: There is a site called www.touryukai.com, but that is not a free site. It got real videos of dogfights mostly between Tosas, and between APBT. Very good.
Or you can see Carl Semencicīs site on http://home.att.net/~semencic/. This guy is a serious doglover and has written several books on the subject.

 

Answer by Big D
Submitted on 5/13/2004
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A game bred American PitBull Terrier will always be the overall best fighting dog. Period. That's why people show up to the fight with APBT's They are the best at what they do, fight. If these other dogs were good then people would bring them to the fight, but they don't, because they don't want their dog to get killed and that's what would happen. The only other dog that consistently has a chance of winning is about a 130-140 pound Tosa (any bigger and they also get killed) and they have won their share. I know for a fact many Tosa'shave been killed by APBT's...in Japan, but so have some PitBull's Many times it simply depends on the dog itself and their gameness. All around the APBT will always win. Fila's Bullmastiff's Dogo's Canario's Bordeaux's, Neo's Boeborel's and American Bulldog's are all tough as nails, but rarely can go the distance. Some strains of Performance American Bulldog's are very very tough and have a lot of gameness, but the bigger Johnson dogs quit pretty fast. I've seen game 85-90 pound performance American Bulldog's (Standard and Ol'SouthernBulldogs)with broken bones, punctured lungs, and many other injuries that would make another dog quit only make these dogs try harder. It depends on their breeding program. They don't quit. But overall the game APBT will beat them as well. I chose to own Performance American Bulldogs because they are superior guard dogs and watch dogs than APBT as are most of the dogs I listed above. The funny thing is that even though the APBT is the overall toughest fighting dog in the world (and that has been proven to me 1000's of times over)they are also one of the worst watch dogs and guard dogs. They are actually very people shy or very friendly. The pitbull is the #1 ranked dog in the USA for dog thefts. They love people and get stolen very easily. If you want a great watch/guard dog get one of the dogs I listed above. If you want a great friend that can kick any other dogs ass, get an APBT. Note: The APBT does do very well in protection training and they will, however protect the people they love if they are attacked, but they don't compare to some of the other dogs I mentioned as far as protection of their property and family.

 

Answer by Big AL
Submitted on 5/13/2004
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I own a german shepard who was a great guard dog and had potential as a fighting dog//but when he died at the age 0f 12..I then bought an Akita from a breeder wow.... and believe me what a great watchdog.. an awesome fighting machine one day while walking him my  next door neighbors 130lb rotty got loose from the yard and sprung and attack my akita i let go of the leash and in no time my akita grab hold of the rottys troat and wouldnt let go i was amazed  and  a little nerveous... after ten minutes the rotty gave up and require 23 stiches..all depends on the dog and there genetic qualities ..the akita dogs are no joke..anyway to closed this argument akitas/ pitts/ rottys/ tosa etc are all powerful dogs..but i give the edge to the Akita

 

Answer by digdog
Submitted on 5/14/2004
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LOL damn all these akitas lovers, well yeh there good guard dogs maybe, but like everyone is saying a GAME APBT are THE!!!! best fighting dog, like everyone is saying also thats why they bring them to the box,

 

Answer by ME
Submitted on 5/14/2004
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do you have password for this site? www.touryukai.com

 

Answer by bigDOG
Submitted on 5/15/2004
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big D WE HAVE A DEBATE GOING ON ANOTHER SITE-WHAT HAS MORE PSI WOLF OR PIT BULL?YOUR THE ONE THAT SEEMS TO BE IN THE KNOW.OUT OF ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT ANSWER ON THESE TYPE -FAQ WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD A WOLF BE ABLE TO KILL A PIT OR PIT A WOLF?DO YOU KNOW OF ANY PIT FIGHTS LIKE THIS?

 

Answer by EBT Boy
Submitted on 5/15/2004
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Does anyone have a password for
for this site? www.touryukai.com?

 

Answer by stranger
Submitted on 5/15/2004
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best fighting is Turkish shepherd dog KANGAL ..
www.evcil.egitimi.com
www.kangal.tr.gs
www.kangaldogs.nl

 

Answer by Bandit5000
Submitted on 5/16/2004
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Yall can say what you want. You'redog can weigh 300 pounds, but once a an irish staffordshire terrier, an amstaff, or a pit gets a good hold, your dog can call it quits.  Those dogs will never let him go.  Your dog will get tired of struggling to get him off.  These dogs relax once their hold is on and saves up energy.  Once your dog lays down, they'll shake the mess out of him and possibly tear of a huge chunk of throat.  No other dogs in the world can do that.  I'm in Alaska where people fight wolves and the only dogs that beat wolves are pits.  I've seen it all fellas!

 

Answer by me
Submitted on 5/16/2004
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Hello Bandit5000, do you PROVE this?

video?

 

Answer by BIGDOG
Submitted on 5/16/2004
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O.K.BANDIT 5OOO-GO TO -WHAT HAS MORE PSI WOLF OR PIT BULL?THERES A GUY FIREDRAGONS THAT HAS SAID FOR THE LONGEST TIME THAT NO DOG HAS EVER KILLED OR WHIPPED AWOLF.WE HAVE ARGUED WITH GUY FOR AWEEK OR MORE NOW.HE KNOWS IT ALL!

 

Answer by me
Submitted on 5/16/2004
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WOLF kill PITBULL anytime.

wolf IS GOD FIGHTHER


 

Answer by JESUS
Submitted on 5/18/2004
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you should not fight GOD.just go with the flow.it does no good to fight GOD!

 

Answer by jimmy
Submitted on 5/19/2004
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(Perro de Presa Canario)??????? this is 1 of the best fighting dogs ever.look it up people i a cross between one of these and a APBT, its a killing machine, the canary dog shows when its fighting and its as big as the canary.

 

Answer by mrknowit
Submitted on 5/19/2004
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LOL Irish wolfounds can kill wolfs, thats what there meant for, so dont even say wolfs are bad asses if there is a dog out there bred to kill wolfs, lol !!!

 

Answer by LOL
Submitted on 5/19/2004
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NOT any dog kill WOLF, I PROVED WOLF is good fighter.

DO OU PROVE the Irish wolfounds KILL THE WOLF?


 

Answer by mrknowit
Submitted on 5/19/2004
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Perro de Presa Canario is a heavily reconstructed Bred of dog, even a japanese tosa can beat one of these things, i dont have to look up anything because im a dog man, and i fight dogs....... pitbulls that are game will beat any other dog out there other than another pitbull, go to http://home.socal.rr.com/mainliner/bulldoglinks.html and start doing some research on pitbulls, hey dont be jelous of us game pitbull owners, your dog is not as tough as ours and theres nothing u can do about it

 

Answer by jim
Submitted on 5/20/2004
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go to which has more psi wolf or pit bull.-  you have to read what this idiot firedragon [or neal]spouts off.

 

Answer by dont trip
Submitted on 5/20/2004
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um i know pitbulls are the best fighters

 

Answer by pitbull
Submitted on 5/20/2004
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no i prove that pitbulls beat wolfs, i have tapes..... i make money, im dogman, wolfs get killed by irish wolfhounds everyday, but thats only because wolfs are wossy dogs......

 

Answer by Big D
Submitted on 5/21/2004
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Big Dog,
Here's info that I always tell people when they ask about pitbulls bite power or "lock jaw" questions. This is info that has been put by a Dr that did research and the info is still out in some Pit Bull FAQ's.
Dr. I Lehr Brisbin of the University of Georgia states, "To the best of our knowledge, there are no published scientific studies that would allow any meaningful comparison to be made of the biting power of various breeds of dogs. There are, moreover, compelling technical reasons why such data describing biting power in terms of 'pounds per square inch' can never be collected in a meaningful way. All figures describing biting power in such terms can be traced to either unfounded rumor or, in some cases, to newspaper articles with no foundation in factual data."
Furthermore, Dr. Brisbin states, "The few studies which have been conducted of the structure of the skulls, mandibles and teeth of pit bulls show that, in proportion to their size, their jaw structure and thus its inferred functional morphology, is no different than that of any breed of dog. There is absolutely no evidence for the existence of any kind of 'locking mechanism' unique to the structure of the jaw and/or teeth of the American Pit Bull Terrier."
What's this mean, well basically that it's hard to really measure a dog's PSI. It's pretty safe to say that a Pitbull plain and simply has stronger jaw muscles that other dogs. They bite and they hold and have the true grit that a bulldog should have to not let go once they clamp down. Remember, these bulldogs of all kinds were used many years ago to hold on to a bulls noses and not let go when the bull was swinging them. That's insanely strong jaw power. So, if a pit has gameness and grit it simply won't let go if it doesn't want to, especially from another dog. Not only are pits and bulldogs game, hell, they're just plain stubborn and it's like pulling teeth to get them to do something they don't want to do.
As far as the whole wolf question. I know for a fact that pitbulls have fought almost everything you can think of from, badgers, wolves, wolverines, snakes, mountain lions, orangutans, you name it. It's crazy, but unlike the pit fights, these other staged matches are people want to bet, it's like Vegas, people want to bet on everything and anything. I know that pit bulls have killed a lot of animals, including wolves. Wolves and coyotes (and similar animals) are hunters, they fight for food and to live, but they are not fighting dogs and usually don't just fight to fight. I don't know about their jaw strength, but I'm sure it has to be pretty tough to rip and tear flesh and hide that they eat. There was a time when a lot of pit men tried a go at a wolf hybrid fighting dog as well as fighting wolves, but it didn't last long. So, yes, a pit will also pretty consistently kill a wolf. A pack of wolves, that's different. American bulldogs were also bred to break up wolf packs by killing the alpha wolf on farms and ranches to keep them out of the cattle and pigs. They were great at this because they fight like possessed demons for the first 15 minutes and usually can kill 2-3 wolves in that time and usually the rest of the pack scatters. A dog is a different animal when when you get them in their home environment. Certain breeds can be much more violent and aggressive if a threat is going on on their territory and around "THEIR" family. American Bulldogs and many other guard dogs mentioned in my previous post may not make the grade in the box, but threaten their family pack and I would be willing to bet you'll have a different fighter on your hands.
Note: as far as some of the other crazy staged fights in case anyone would ask....pits very rarely beat a poisonous snake (and those are incredibly ignorant matches for gambling addicts) I've never seen one, but have heard all about it. And for the record, the wolverine has got to be one of the toughest, nastiest, meanest animals in the world. A pit can kill one if he gets him quick, but a wolverine can rip a pit to shreds and fast. They are flat out mean and as violent as you've ever seen.


 

Answer by me
Submitted on 5/21/2004
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COOOOOOOOL you have VIDEO? --pitbull--


for fighting wolf please traqde with me, I have 45 minute video tosa and german sheperd more trade for you

 

Answer by pitbull
Submitted on 5/21/2004
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Thx for the information, your absoultey right, they have faught game pitbulls against alot of other animals, and the wolf is just plain out pussie, thx for some more proof of the pitbull beating down wolfs

 

Answer by Hey if u realy want video?
Submitted on 5/21/2004
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pm me when i am online name is shadyylee on AOL IM but, we can talk

 

Answer by me
Submitted on 5/21/2004
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HEY ALL do you share video of fighting dog with me?

 

Answer by rpg 243
Submitted on 5/22/2004
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Rotttie. All the way. I've seen rotts get a hold of apbt, and i'lltell u,they just won't let go. not only apbts: great danes, american bull dogs, presa canarios and akitas. As a matter of fact, i'venever seen an akita beat a rottweiler. they're tough, but they're soft. And they're just not as powerful. So all you akita lovers, stop hallucinating. it's crazy to say that an akita can beat a rott. Whoever says so doesn't have a clue of what they're talking about.

 

Answer by ME
Submitted on 5/23/2004
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Akita kill ROTTIE anytime. I am 2 ROTH ans 1 AKITA I am PROVE

 

Answer by BuLLTerr
Submitted on 5/23/2004
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I`m from Romania and people hunt gray wolfs with dogs and knives so don't f______g tell me that no dog can kill a wolf.Anyway I`m a Bullterrier lover but I must confess that the APBT is the greatest fighting dog, all you tosa, rott etc lovers GET REAL. I really want some video or pictures -usser@k.ro-

 

Answer by BRING IT
Submitted on 5/23/2004
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BRING THAT STUFF TO THE PIT.MAKE YOU SOME $$$$$$.OR LOSE SOME.$$$$$$ LOL.

 

Answer by Jakob
Submitted on 5/27/2004
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Everyone in this discussionforum are not facing the truth. Everyone knows that the undisputed champion of dogfighting is the Beagle..... Come on. Admit it.... This breed is the most ferocious and agressive youīll ever see...

 

Answer by bigDOG
Submitted on 5/27/2004
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well yeah a beagle can be surpriseing.a lot of dog in a small package.

 

Answer by Jakob
Submitted on 5/28/2004
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I am not an expert on this issue. But I was wondering about how an english bulldog would do in a dogpit?
I mean, the english bulldog is the ancestor to most of the modern fighting breeds not to forget.

 

Answer by dazzman
Submitted on 5/28/2004
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its the other way the english bull was bred out of the fighting bulldog.for his odd looks.he has a good bite but hes not quick and has not been proven[bred for]in the pit for many years.

 

Answer by jojo
Submitted on 5/28/2004
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bull dawg, don't forget to take your meds, you liying piece of crap. You know everything you said is a pile well stacked up s@#4

 

Answer by rednoseluv
Submitted on 5/28/2004
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i hope you dogfighters suffer like the soul of the dog you kill and torture when they lose your fight.  you don't deserve the love they give and on your deathbed you will feel their pain.  and, you will be caught...  most of you didn't graduate high school and i bet none of you have a college education.  that is the problem.

 

Answer by cedar gap
Submitted on 5/29/2004
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the staffordshire bull terrier was the first real fighting dog when the dog was first brought to america in the 1800s we wanted a slightly larger dog so the apbt terrier was created using the staffordshire bull terrier as the foundation the apbt is the best fighting dog followed close by its cousin the staffordshire bull terrier

 

Answer by akita dog
Submitted on 6/1/2004
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akita r not in the gladiator dog category for nothin, rotts aint even mentioned

 

Answer by tosa-pit bull thats all folks.
Submitted on 6/1/2004
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so they ain't as good as you bozo fukers think.the reason the pit bull and tosa is used is because truth is thats all that will fight over ten minutes.

 

Answer by Kumo the Akita
Submitted on 6/2/2004
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The Akita is an unstopable breed of dog. They  were designed for one reason to hunt bears and other large animals.Their attack is fierece. I owned an Akita so I think i would know. Had to put him down for killing my next door neighbours pitbull and for putting 46 stiches in the lady who lived there. He was only 1 and 1/2 years old not even fully grown.

 

Answer by Dogg 213
Submitted on 6/2/2004
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American Pit bull Terrier ..... that is where they get their name from ... they where breed for fighting...  

 

Answer by hangterisaan
Submitted on 6/2/2004
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the dogo canario or aka perro de presa canario kicks the most ass!

 

Answer by AmBull Owner
Submitted on 6/2/2004
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American Bulldogs and Pits period.
Dead Game.

 

Answer by khan
Submitted on 6/3/2004
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  illyrian shepherds and  sarplaninacs are the same . pitbulls are the most used fighters cuz theyre cheaper to buy in the US. 2-400 dollars for a pup. some even for less. english bull terriers start from around a thousand dollars a pup. and theyre both almost just as good when it comes to fighting. whenever another breed beats a bull terrier or its cousins , its just either pure luck or inexperience on the terriers part. or maybe even lack of condition. but thats about it. ciao

 

Answer by DOGG
Submitted on 6/3/2004
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WOULD YOU FEEL BETTER IF WE FOUGHT THEM IN A LARGE PIT?

 

Answer by khan
Submitted on 6/4/2004
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   a beagle???....lol

 

Answer by BEAGLES RULE!!!!!!
Submitted on 6/4/2004
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HEY BEAGLES DO O.K. FOR THEIR SIZE.I SEEN ONE LITTLE BEAGLE KILL CATS BIG AS SHE WAS WHENEVER SHE GOT THE CHANCE.AND THEY WILL FIGHT.THEY DO GOOD AGAINST DOGS THEIR SIZE.

 

Answer by Jakob
Submitted on 6/4/2004
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Hey... I have seen a Chihuahua kill 4 pit bulls and 4 Neos at the same time..... It jumped up and bit the throat and ate their lungs and their liver....... The Chihuahua is the ultimate fighting dog and you guys know it.......Admit it....

 

Answer by Roastcha
Submitted on 6/4/2004
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I don't believe there is a dog that cant be beat'nby another. In my experienced in dog fighting every single dog fighting breed has been beat'nby another. But the top 5 fighting dogs would have to be the Pitbull, Akita, American Bulldog, Canary dog, and the Bullmastiff. Halla at me about dog fighting jeffrey_normore@yahoo.com

 

Answer by bigDOG
Submitted on 6/4/2004
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YEAH THEY DO GOOD AGAINST STUFF THEIR SIZE.....HEY WAIT THERES NOT NOTHING THEIR SIZE!!!!!

 

Answer by HI! Roastcha
Submitted on 6/4/2004
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Roastcha,
do you have VIDEO for share with me for fightingdog?


 

Answer by AKITA APBT LOVER
Submitted on 6/4/2004
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I own a 86lb APBT and a 110lb Akita.  I love tough dogs but I'm against dog fighting.  Which dog is the toughest?  When they play the Akita dominates the APBT early but I can see the pit's gameness and endurance and if they were to get into it for real I believe the pit would win in the end, I wouldn't want to mess with either of them, the Akita is by far the better home protector.

 

Answer by AKITA PITBULL OWNER
Submitted on 6/4/2004
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I own a 86lb APBT and a 110lb Akita, I love tough dogs but I'm against dog fighting.  Which dog is the toughest? When the play the Akita dominates the Pit bull early but I can see the Pit's gameness and endurance kick in and if they ever got into a real fight I believe the Pit would win in the end.  The Akita is by far the better home protector.

 

Answer by AKITA PITBULL OWNER
Submitted on 6/5/2004
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MIXED MATCHED DOG FIGHTS. WHICH IS THE TOUGHEST BREED?

by Mr. Jan Libourel, Editor of HANDGUNS MAGAZINE and Editor of TOSA Newsletter
In issue #17 of FILATALK MAGAZINE, the claim appeared that the most deadly fighting dog in the world was a 30 pound Pit Bull Terrier.   It was also stated that smaller Pit Bull dogs can get underneath a larger opponent and rip out its throat in short order. The claim was made that such a dog could kill "even the most powerful Fila".  

Right: Gabriel, a Fila Brasileiro at 215 lbs owned by Shoo-its Mountain Filas

This seems most improbable. Few would probably disagree with the claim that pound for-pound the American Pit Bull Terrier is the finest fighting dog in the world. Moreover, the smaller Pits Bull are usually the gamest and the most talented. Thus, one of these little dogs can often defeat a substantially larger dog, especially if the other dog is not a Pit Bull. However, it should be noted that serious dog fighters are very careful to closely match weights in the most intensely contested matches. A difference of only a few pounds can count a lot in a dog fight.

Moreover, the claim that a smaller dog has a great advantage by being able to get to the throat more readily becomes very silly on close examination. (Editors Tosa on right) By that logic, a Jack Russell Terrier should be able to defeat the small Pit Bull, and a Chihuahua should be able to kill the Jack Russell, thus establishing the Chihuahua as the most formidable dog of all!

In point of fact, if a 30 pound Pit Bull went against a huge Fila like Gabriel, Jetson, Chaka, or Reno, the larger dog would crush the life out of the smaller dog long before the superior gameness or athletic ability of the Pit Bull came into play. Assuming the small Pit Bull did get a throat hold, it would most likely get nothing more than a mouthful of dewlap. It is commonly held that the only two real fighting dogs in the world are the American Pit Bull Terrier and the Japanese Tosa. I have heard it suggested that the ultra-rare Majorcan Presa (aka Ca de Bou) might also qualify. The Korean Jindo (looks like an Akita) is also reputed to be a very tough customer. Middle Asian Ovcharkas are also reported to be used for fighting in their homeland and may possess some talent.

Mixed matches between Pit Bulls and Tosas have produced mixed results. In Japan, one informant states, the Tosas defeat the Pit Bulls about 90 percent of the time. In such matches in the United States, the Pit Bulls have, with few exceptions, been victorious. However, such encounters typically involve Pit Bulls that are seasoned fighting dogs pitted against Tosas that have been little more than house pets.

Most Tosa breeders will have a story about how a dog from their bloodlines has killed or maimed a Pit Bull. It should be pointed out that there is a good deal of variation in the size and quality among both Tosas and Pit Bulls, the latter breed having suffered from the scourge of puppy mill breeding. In the case of a 140 pound Tosa of the finest East Japan fighting bloodlines against a 40 pound Pit Bull of indifferent breeding, I would have little doubt about the outcome.

On the other hand, a seasoned, game bred, game tested Pit Bull should be able to hold his own against almost any Tosa. As a matter of interest, several years ago a correspondent to the old Bulldog Review Magazine mentioned having visited Taiwan. He inquired about the presence of the Tosa fighting subculture in Taiwan. He was told that they had been killed off by Pit Bulls. One prominent Tosa breeder reported seeing four mixed matches in Hungary. One involved a large male Tosa against a Neapolitan Mastiff. This was a very one-sided slaughter that was soon halted to stop further harm to the Neo.

In the second bout, a smallish, young female Tosa fought to a draw with a male Pit Bull that was nearly as large as herself. In the other two bouts, the Tosas decisively defeated the Pit Bulls. In one of these contests, the Pit Bull was seriously mangled, loosing an eye in the fight. In both fights, the Tosas became more dominant as the fight progressed. Evidently, the Pit Bulls had tired from wrestling with the larger dogs. The same breeder mentioned having seen two spontaneous, accidental fights between Tosa's and Fila's at American dog shows. In both cases the Tosas very much dominated the action while it lasted.  

Proceeding to some of the other mastiff type breeds, the American Bulldog varies considerably in size and temperament. They seem to be capable of fighting ferociously and capable for a short period of time and then losing interest quickly. My informant tells me of a mixed match which an American Bulldog punished an Argentine Dogo non stop for about 15 minutes and then quit when the Dogo finally fought back. I have also heard of a mixed match between a Tosa and an American Bulldog in which the Bulldog quickly jumped out of the ring to avoid further punishment. The Argentine Dogo was developed primarily as a hunting /pack dog. It does have some fighting breeds in its make up and can give a good account of itself in a scrap, but not on the same level as level as the "real fighting dogs".

The Presa Canario has its origins as a fighting dog. Today, it is largely a reconstructed breed, with heavy infusions of English Mastiff and American Staffordshire Terrier. As a fighter, it is reported to be similar to the American Bulldog - furiously aggressive for the first few minutes of the fight but lacking in gameness and staying power. The Dogue de Bordeaux has not been used as a fighting dog for about a century. In a mixed match with the Tosa witnessed by my principle informant, the two dogs collided in the middle of the ring and the Tosa knocked the Dogue de Bordeaux cold.

The Cane Corso looks like a fighting dog, but really isn’t. In functions, it is more akin to the Fila; being primarily an estate guardian and protector of livestock. Also like Fila, it is a good pack dog. One of the leading Cane breeders tells me that he has as many as seven male Canes playing together peaceably. When all is said an done, the "Toughest Dog in the World" is probably either a 60 or 70 pound Pit Bull dog or a Tosa weighing about 130 pounds.

The Fila should not be considered a fighting dog. It was never bred for that purpose. It should be pointed out that the specialized fighting dogs are often of limited utility for much else. Many, if not most, Pit Bulls are too friendly to make effective property protectors, and many of them are stolen themselves.

A fair percentage of highly bred game Pit Bulls from the best fighting bloodlines are quite man-shy, and the same seems to be true with of Tosas, quite frequently, Other Pit Bulls and Tosas are very "waggy" in fact, for people whose primary interest in a dog is personal protection, I usually recommend the Fila over the Tosa, even though I dearly love my Tosa and am very partial to the latter breed.

Sincerely Jan Liborel , Editor Handguns Magazine

 

Answer by stefan
Submitted on 6/5/2004
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i own a 108 pound pitbull thats full of muscle that can take any dog ....in other words PITBULLS kick ASS!!!!!!!

 

Answer by COOK
Submitted on 6/5/2004
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theres a guy firedragon on-which has more PSI WOLF OR PIT BULL-SITE SAYS A WOLF CAN KILL YOUR 108LB. PIT.

 

Answer by me
Submitted on 6/5/2004
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hihihihihiihi!stefan

My big Alaskan Malamute PIN your PITBULL no problem


 

Answer by hihihihihikev.
Submitted on 6/5/2004
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SHUT-UP RETARD,KEVIN.NO THERE AIN'T NOBODY GOIN SEND YOU A DAMN DOGFIGHT VIDEO.SO GET OFF IT!!!!!!!!!!

 

Answer by unknown
Submitted on 6/5/2004
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Listen, I'm going to make this as simple as I can. This is jus how it is and there's nothing you can do about it.

Dogs that can fight...

First Class
APBT
Tosa Inu

Dogs that have little or no chance of beating the first class...

Second Class
Dogo Argentino
Bandogg
Bull Terrier
AmStaff
American Bulldog
Presa Canario
Bully Kutta
Fila

Dogs that have little or no chance of beating the second class...

Third Class
Caucasion Ovtcharka
Neo
Akita
Spanish Bulldog
Cane Corso
Ca De Boa
Gul Dong
Dogue De Bordeux
Guatemalan Bull Terrier
Indian Bull Terrier
Staffordshire Bull Terrier

And finally dogs that have no chance or little of beating the third class but can still hold their own...

The fourth class
German Shephard
Doberman
Rott
Shar Pei
Malamute
Bullmastiff
and other popular breeds(too many to mention)
Wolf Hybrids
The rest of the ovtcharkas

Beleive it or not, when it comes down to, pound for pound that's just how it is!

 

Answer by khan
Submitted on 6/7/2004
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ignore the first line of my reply. it was meant for another question.  as for the loser who has categorized fighting breeds , yu dont even know what yur talking about. bully kuttas can take on tosas , CUZ THEYRE THE SAME FRIKKIN THING!.....and gul dongs (lol)...(they call bull dogs gull dongs in local dialect , cuz the poor buggers dont know any better ) are just like pitbulls......no difference really , theyre "gamebred" bull and terriers!.....and loser , bull terriers are not second rate , by any frikkin standard!  ciao

 

Answer by BLUE
Submitted on 6/7/2004
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I THOUGHT BULLY KUTTAS WERE A PAKISTAN NATIVE FIGHTING DOG.

 

Answer by uknown
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ayo for the smart one gul dongs were created by crossing different varieties of bully kuttas with the indian bull terrier and taht aint no pit, ight?!? LMAO As for tosas and kutta being the same thing wat are u smokin?!?!? i think some one needs to wake u up from ur little wet dream that you're having. Also bull terriers are deffinitly second class cuz any dog that can take on dogo argentino is a top dog, don't beleive me? lol don't care cuz u aint nothin but a lil punk kid amateur, trying to be a big man behind his computer...

 

Answer by Jakob
Submitted on 6/8/2004
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As I have mentioned before, the very best fighting breeds is the Chihuahua, The Beagle and of course the Pekingese. Everyone knows that......
No honestly, I do not think it is possible to categorise them as unknown does up above. I mean, if some of the larger dogs get a good grip on a APBT or Tosa for that matter, they could easily be succesfull. The world is not that easy, but I guess you could say, that APBT and Tosas STATISTICALLY have won the most matches.
At the end of the road, it all comes down to the individual dog.

 

Answer by khan
Submitted on 6/8/2004
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they are!!!!.....but theres virtually no difference between them and tosas....they are "gamebred" mastiff like dogs.....and yu show a tosa to most of the ppl over here and they'll call it a bully kutta.....and there are more dogfights held in pakistan than in any country in the world!

 

Answer by Roastcha
Submitted on 6/8/2004
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Its me again still there is no 1 top dog. And to " unknown" shut up cuz u dont know what your talking about cuz the bullmastiff, German Shepherd, Akita, Caucasion Ovtcharka , American Bulldog, Bully Cuta, Tosa, and Pit are in the same catagory. You dont think top dog cuz just seing pit after pit is no fun. Mixed matched dog fights are the best. Look a a Doberman vs German Sheperd. Or Akita vs a American Bulldog, Pitbull vs a Canary dog. Then you have something to bet on. " unknown" you have'nseen all those dogs fight so you dont know what your talk'nabout. Yes the pit and the tosa probley 7 out of 10 times will beat other dogs but u still need to shut yo ass up. Get at me dawg

 

Answer by Roastcha
Submitted on 6/8/2004
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Hey look on animalsvoice.com and see two Caucasion Ovtcharkas fighting. Just look under animal fighting.

 

Answer by BIGDOG
Submitted on 6/8/2004
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HEY TYPE IN BEAR DOG FIGHT CLICK ON ANIMAL FIGHT PICTURES TO SEE PITS ON A BEAR

 

Answer by khan
Submitted on 6/9/2004
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see , even BIGDOG could'nt tell the difference between a pakistani bull terrier and a pitbull!...cuz they're virtually the same! those pictures show bear baits in pakistan. i've been to them.

 

Answer by BIGDOG
Submitted on 6/9/2004
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THEY ARE THE SAME ITS BECAUSE THE PAKISTANS JUST CALL THEM WHAT THEY WANT TO. THE NATIVE FIGHTING DOGS ARE NOT GOING TO CLOSE WITH A BEAR LIKE THOSE DOGS ARE.OTHER PLACES LIKE PAKISTAN HAVE FOUND THERE MUTTS TO BE LACKING,WHEN IT COMES TO THINGS LIKE BEAR BAITING.SO YOU SEE PITS WORLD WIDE THESE DAYS.

 

Answer by khan
Submitted on 6/9/2004
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those are bull terrier crossbreeds NATIVE TO PAKISTAN!....lol....yu come over here and i'll take yu to dogfights and bear baits....and yu can see for yurself....THEY ARE NOT AMERICAN PITBULLS!....most of the dogs are white for gods sake!....how many white pits out there btw? they are not pits but are very close...theyre 100% local!..i know!..yu dont!....lol

 

Answer by BIGDOG
Submitted on 6/9/2004
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YEAH RIGHT BOZO.I DON'NT THINK YOU KNOW JACK.

 

Answer by bigDOG
Submitted on 6/9/2004
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wow i see a white pit bull.right in  front of me.i can go outside and look at two more!how rare!

 

Answer by bigman
Submitted on 6/9/2004
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well khan, wut dogs are tougher, the bull kutta or the gul dong? just outta currious?

 

Answer by SHOTO
Submitted on 6/9/2004
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Hi pleople,
I dont know as much as you guys but i just wanted to ask you people if you know how a Neopolitan Mastiff would do in the arena.
I have never seen more than a street dog fight but the Neo sure does look like it can hold its own.Thanks.

 

Answer by shadyyyyyyyyy
Submitted on 6/10/2004
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The neo is not a fighting breed just a good guard dog, there pretty damn big, but there not agile or tough....

 

Answer by khan
Submitted on 6/10/2004
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the gul dong is a cross between a local bull terrier and a bully. theyre faster and more agile than the bully and more tenacious as well. in local lingo , they are also referred to as bully bull terriers. they are very similar to pitbulls. and are used widely for boar hunting and fighting. but ppl in the punjab (the largest province) prefer bullys cuz of their size. theyre impressive. huge , strong dogs with two or more handlers coming into the ring say more than a lil bull terrier dwarfed by most of the dogs there. but when it comes down to it , no experienced owner pits his bully against a good bull terrier. the bullys bite is not as punishing. and they cant hold on for as long. and the bully is'nt as stubborn as the bull terrier. its like pitting an american bulldog against a pitbull. some bullys are very good fighters. and have a great grip , but most just stand around panting after wrestling for a while. bull terriers and their croosbreeds punish their opponents. bulyys etc etc just wrestle. the dog that tires first loses. bully fights are'nt as damaging either. its cruel to pit a good kohati bull terrier against another. its just cruel. i saw a dogs tongue torn out in seconds once. the dog died the next day. cruel.and believe me bigdog , i KNOW my dogs. ;)

 

Answer by khan
Submitted on 6/10/2004
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neos are not fighting dogs. theyre guard dogs. fighting dogs are designed to fight. the breeders of these dogs always kept their function in mind. neos have weak hind legs for their size. too much skin around the mouth. breathing probs. a pit dog would "kill" a neo in 20 minutes. a bully or tosa would knock it off its feet. probably in the first collision. and would'nt let go. they are'nt fighting dogs!..period. but i hear theyre good guards.

 

Answer by khan
Submitted on 6/10/2004
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gul dongs are dogs with more bully and less bull terrier. bully bull terriers are more bull terrier and less bully. guldongs look like dogo argentinas. bully bull terriers look like pits. but theyre almost always white. but a good example of either will be tougher than any bully.

 

Answer by doug
Submitted on 6/10/2004
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www.tourykai.com click on history.shows that in japan they used everything.only tosa and pit works.

 

Answer by khan
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another sort of bull terrier crossbreed is also used in pakistan for hunting boar. a cross between a local bull terrier and a local greyhound. they have the body of a greyhound. a lil thicker. the head of a bull terrier for holding power. and course more guts and tenacity. thats something yu wont find anywhere else in the world.

 

Answer by khan
Submitted on 6/10/2004
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and that jap. site has'nt mentioned english bull terriers....cuz no one can claim that an EBT is NO MATCH for any dog!..and the two versions of pakistani fighting dogs have'nt been mentioned by name. take a pure kohati bull terrier to the ring and it can send the tosa or any other dog packing. the kohati is am amazing specimen. the look of the EBT . slightly larger. wide back , deep chest. amazing head. pink nose , sometimes black. and a flatter muzzle. kind of like the older EBT. these dogs are rare in pakistan now, cuz unfortunately  greedy locals have sold them all to the sheikhs of dubai. just a few left. very rare and its very improbable that the japs got hold of one of them to "test" against their dogs. and another great pakistani dog is the bully of sindh. a huge bully , longer in body , built like a tiger. huge head and paws , mostly brindle. bad temperament. longer than is tall. the sindhi bully too , is very very rare these days. in all my years over here and all the fights i've been too , i've only seen it once!..lol...impressive animal indeed!...would break a tosas back!...decsended from the mollossian dogs of alexanders armies...dogs that faced lions in the arenas of greece. he brought his dogs here. to sindh and their descendents are still occasionally seen. in the "deras" of local "wadheras"!. feudal lords of sindh.

 

Answer by The Creator
Submitted on 6/10/2004
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I had this funny thought......
Imagine if you were to start from the beginning with breeding the perfect fighting dog. You could choose from any breed you would like.
My suggestion is the following:
Irish wolfhound (height)/Fila Brasilero(size and aggression)/APBT (stamina and gameness)/Black russian terrier(Aggressivenes, awarenes).

What do you guys think? And what would your suggestion be?

 

Answer by Shoto
Submitted on 6/10/2004
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Thanks Shadyy and Khan,
Thanks i now know what to say if someone with a pit wants to match it against my Neo.
Is there any good websites where i can learn about best fight dogs .
And maybe some pictures of videos.
And i am from Central America ,is there any international law against me viewing such websites?

 

Answer by DOUG
Submitted on 6/10/2004
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Japan dog fighting is a passion and they have money.if they say tosa and pits i belive them and the site is PROOF.

 

Answer by bigDOG
Submitted on 6/10/2004
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WORLDS TOUGHEST FIGHTING BREED.USE GOOGLE..

 

Answer by shoto
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I just read this in a web site.
"The gigantic Irish Wolfhound is so strong that he can pick up a Mastiff or Bulldog. When he was pitted against either in a fight, he would pick his opponent up by the back and simply shake him to death".
I read this at http://www.indianchild.com/dogs.htm.
If this is true then how would a Pit bull do if grabbed...and of course i mean"if grabbed"by one of these dogs?.
Thanks.

 

Answer by shadylee
Submitted on 6/10/2004
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Hey khan u seem like u are pretty smart about thoughs pakistan Dogs, in your opion which two dogs are the best fighting dog? if u have an email or aol handle u can email it to me at shadyyleee@yahoo.com id like to be able to chat with ya !!!

 

Answer by khan
Submitted on 6/11/2004
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it may be a passion in japan , but its also a passion in pakistan. and its more common over here. fights are held all over the country 6 months of the year. yes , i'll admit , there are very few ppl out there with proper breeding regimens , but there are quite a few responsible breeders as well. ppl who love the sport and breed for the best. their dogs are very aggressive and game. and can take on any dog in the world. they will prove a good match. i dont wanna make any tall claims. cuz any dog can lose to another . but yu cant blame the loser if he put up a fight. if two ppl fight , one is bound to lose. thats why the sport is wrong , cuz ppl in pakistan often have their dogs destroyed or set them loose if they lose one single fight.

 

Answer by khan
Submitted on 6/11/2004
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these dogs cant be killed by "shaking"....lol...they're not shihtzus.........they are extremely muscular and agile dogs. with unmatched courage and determination. a pit bull or bull terrier or any fighting breed for that matter , will badly injure or even kill an irish wolfhound in a fight. ppl see these short scuffles on the rd. when dogs break loose and thats how they make their deductions. its just plain stupid!....once i had a dobermann and an old pakistani beardog (local bull terrier) at home. the bull terrier had no teeth in its mouth...least no canines...and the dobie was young....and one day suddenly attacked the bull terrier and bit him on the face...and he bled quite a lot and the dobie thought he had won. yu see , beardogs dont inherently attack other dogs and are not used to the idea. but a bull terrier is a bull terrier. and one day , (muzzled , i might add) the bull terrier attacked the dobie and beat him into the ground. could'nt bite him once , but the dobie could'nt even take the roughhousing!...i mean the bull terrier was using his neck to beat up on the bigger dog and the dobie was constantly being pounded into the ground. lol...and a few days later , no one was home and they broke loose and the bull terrier got hold of the dobie. with its very few teeth , it beat the hell out of the dobie!..and when we got there , i swear i saw something i never thought possible. my servant ran inside and came out with a lighter!... he had tried all the normal techniques but the BT just would'nt let go. so he proceeded to burn the tip of the dogs ear to make him let go. i swear and theres no exaggeration , the dog would'nt let go. his white ear went brown and he would'nt stop. then i told him to stop and i choked the dog myself for five minutes and then finally managed to pull him off!. so yu see my friend , theres nothing like a bull terrier or pitbull or staffie!...NOTHING!

 

Answer by bigDOG
Submitted on 6/11/2004
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THATS HARDLY A SURPRISE.Just what the dogs were bred for,so WHY would'nt they be the best fighters?

 

Answer by maximus
Submitted on 6/11/2004
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khan, you mentioned a staffie in your last post. (I have two white ones) and was just wondering if they have staffies were you live, and if so what are they like in tempermant and also what are they like in the fighting ring were you are?

 

Answer by khan
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like i said. they are all the best. bull terriers , pitbulls , staffies and their crosses. in this catagory , it just depends on the individual dog itself. they are all capable of defeating one another. it was a surprise cuz the dogs ear was burning and it still ignored it. its a sign of true gameness. and this dog was a crossbred local variety. yu hear about stuff like that but only rarely witness it. how many times have yu seen such determination demonstrated?..i bet yu've seen dogs fighting , but withstanding such pain?..i've seen many fights , but this one experience taught me how seriously brave these dogs really are. yu poke a lion or a bear with a burning torch and it'll scream out and run.

 

Answer by khan
Submitted on 6/11/2004
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staffies started the legacy. they are the original fighting dog. my friend has a staffy over here. white. beautiful dog. they will not fight unless yu "let" them fight. but with the right training they can take out any dog. theyre built for it . they were bred for it. size does'nt matter with these dogs. and ppl who tell yu it does , dont know what theyre talkin about. it is on record that a staff once held on to a bulls nose while the owner hacked off all its feet and the dog would'nt let go , just to prove the gameness of his breed to the audience. the dog was finally killed when the bull broke loose and ran and the dog was trampled under its feet only after its nostrils gave way. that is the staffie for you. the quintessential fighting dog. sure , they may not be bred for aggression anymore , but after a few trials  , and in experienced hands , it will fight to the death. its a simple impossibility that it will turn and run. staffies require a lot of exercise to make "fight condition".

 

Answer by rotty lover
Submitted on 6/11/2004
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I had a 1 year old male rotty. It got loose one day and ran down the street to two apbts and jumped over thier fence. While he was in the air one of the dogs jumped in the air and my rotty knocked it on his back. When he did he bit the the apbt on the neck a and ripped it's throat open. The other bull terrier was on the other side of the yard while my rotty was killing the first apbt. My rotty met the other dog in the middle of the yard. My rotty got bit in the side but the apbt didn't get it's jaws locked. My rotty bit the bull terrier on the back of the neck and locked his jaws.The apbt died of blood loss. There you go apbt lovers , your dog sucks balls compared to a rotty.  

 

Answer by bigDOG
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staffies were pit bulls until the A.K.C. did not want to register them as PIT BULLS. Khan do you see WOLF PITTED AGAINST DOGS ONE ON ONE?There is a guy on a site -which has more psi wolf or pit bull?[faqs.org. like this site]that has a CLAIMED for a month that NO DOG HAS OR CAN KILL OR WHIP A WOLF.I KNOW THIS IS NOT TRUE.BUT HE WILL NOT SHUT-UP.HE GOES BY-FIREDRAGONS AND HE GOES ON AND ON!PLEASE GO TO SITE AND READ HIM,HE IS A REAL NUT-CASE.AND BY THE WAY I THOUGHT YOU MEANT A DIFFERENT DOG SO SORRY I SAID YOU DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THE FIGHTING BREEDS.

 

Answer by maximus
Submitted on 6/11/2004
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oh and also rotts cant lock there jaws or if lock jaws are even true the they cant bite as hard as a pit it probaly wasnt even a pit i bet u it was a freaking labrador.

 

Answer by Bobby
Submitted on 6/11/2004
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I once saw a Boerboel in a dogfight. It almost killed a Bandog. I wonder if the Boerboel has any "bull" blood in itīs bloodlines? Anyone knows?

 

Answer by shadyyleee
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Hey khan, can u point me to some good breeders of the gul dong and or the bully bull terriers.... im very interested.... thx

 

Answer by danes
Submitted on 6/11/2004
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Any thoughts on great danes?  Where would it rank?  I have seen an angry 150 pound great dane take down a 100 lb. rot, and a 110 lb. akita in seconds, in different instances.  The great dane just seemed a lot faster, more agile, and stronger than both of those dogs.

 

Answer by khan
Submitted on 6/12/2004
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the rotti probably attacked a puppy if theres any truth to the story....rottis are no match for fighting dogs..end of story...dogs have killed wolves...in old england they used to pit staffies against she-wolves with cubs , cuz she'd prove more of a challenge then a male wolf. but even the she-wolf would be taken out quite effectively by the pit dog. but the male was no challenge at all. any female with her offspring will always fight more viciously (its a natural instinct) . its obvious that the ordinary wolf had no chance against the dogs. and even the she-wolf was always defeated. its just that the cruel ppl of the time wanted a better show . a "tad" more interesting..lol

there was once a kohati bull terrier in our village in the mountains . at that time , our village was surrounded by thick forest...and there was an abundance of wolves. one day , the dog went missing. my father's uncle (the owner) and some servants went looking for the dog. calling out its name , but nothing. then they heard a slight wining (the kind a dog does when he hears his master's voice) and headed in that direction , a lil into the forest. my dad followed em. the dog was lying there , in a pool of blood , deep bites all over his body.....and he just did'nt have the energy to move. and lying right next to him , was a dead wolf. with its throat badly mangled. and a trail of blood leaving it. the dog had chased wolves into the brush and was then attacked. it got hold of one and did'nt let go. and eventually killed it. the other wolves attacked the dog from every direction , badly wounding it. but the dog still survived , and was taken back to the village to recover and fight again. and he did. and he won. true story.



 

Answer by khan
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there are villages in sargodha and mianwali where yu can find great bully bull terrier dogs.  gul dongs are more widely available. but the best way is to go to the fights held across the country in the winters and talk to the owners. yu give em enough money and they'll get yu a dog , but its difficult to trust ppl over here , so u should have an influential local with u. lol. but there are no kennels etc offering good fighting dogs. yes , imported purebreds are being sold all over the bigger cities like lahore and karachi. another common trend over here is to go to fights and buy a good fighter right off the owner for around 500 - 1500 dollars or more , depending on how many fights the dog has won.  if yu want the best dogs in the country , go to kohat. and meet a local malik. and tell them yu want a pure kohati bull terrier. and u'll pay. lol..its all about the money in this country...if yu know what yur lookin for , yu should be able to get yur hands on one. but nothings easy in pakistan. NOTHING!..lol.



 

Answer by khan
Submitted on 6/12/2004
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tell that loser that dogs dont only kill wolves , they even take on HYENAS!..lol...unbelievable , but true. there was a khan in the city of quetta who once owned over a hundred EBTs and kohatis. his EBTs were all black brindle. he was widely known as the man with the black bull terriers!. he had a servant (around 6 and a half feet tall , very strong tribal man) who handled an indian hyena they kept in a dried up well for baiting purposes. my uncle especially went to quetta to witness these fights. he said the man would go into the well and bring the hyena out in a big sack..lol..sounds crazy. and would chain it to a post. and the khan's bull terriers were set on the hyena. one at a time for a lil while . and the dogs put up a great fight!. he told me that he thought the dog would be destroyed by the hyena's formidable jaws , but it turned out the hyena would find himself in something of a situation. lol. and none of the dogs was ever killed by the hyena. and both came off pretty much the same at the end of the fight. sometimes , the dogs would get a great grip on the hyenas neck and would then be pulled off ( to save the hyena from being killed ..lol). amazing fighters!



 

Answer by The creator
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Hey KHAN.
You seem to know a lot about this issue.
Do you think it would be possible to create a pit bull weighing 160-170 pounds?? because in my eyes, that would be the all over ultimate fighting dog.

 

Answer by khan
Submitted on 6/12/2004
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by crossings with larger dogs...but then it would defeat the purpose , cuz the breed would change into something else....and fighting dogs are of a particular size for one very reason , cuz thats the best size for a fighter to be. heavy dogs will tire out. filas , tosas etc cannot go on fighting after too long...bull terrier breeds can go on just as determined for much longer if prepared properly.its just about stamina. and smaller dogs manage to wiggle themselves out of tight situations. and their bodies are tightly packed. allowing for more endurance to severe punishment. muscle covers everything. thats why they are the only dogs capable of taking a bear's slap and then coming back for more. infact , they are probably one of the very few animals in the world with such resistance to brute force. pit a fila or a tosa against a bear and see what happens. it'll either refuse to scrath or be killed in a minute. the same would happen to a "larger" pit bull.

 

Answer by maximus
Submitted on 6/12/2004
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Khan, what kind of training do dogs uptake when they are being trained to fight in the place of which you live as the way you mention them they sound like some tough nuts?

 

Answer by bigDOG
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really huge dogs are freaks.just like the very biggest people are slow and short lived,so are dogs when they get to giant size.so there is a cut off point as to a dog being useful.khan seems to have a great deal of knowledge on dogs that fight.when he first came on i thought he was just blowing off like most,but he seems to be first rate!what is the large longish hair dog in Pakistan khan?i have seen pictures of them fighting,don't think they are that great from what i hear.i'm sure you know about them.why is it you know our English?are you from Pakistan?do you come to the U.S.A.?

 

Answer by shadyyleee
Submitted on 6/12/2004
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one problem khan im from the usa? hahaha, well im willing to pay shipping and all that stuff....

 

Answer by DBR
Submitted on 6/13/2004
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Why would you care who has the toughest dog or breed, it's just an ego thing. But I can tell you that every dog is different in its individual ways. But as a breed any type of bull and terrier mixed well win in a proper match. Originally the they were all called pit-bulls just raging in different sizes, now today the American Pit-bull Terrier is the favourite because it doesn't really have a breed standard in size and really isn't a show dog. Their tenacity,speed, pound for pound strength and gameness well beet any other breed. Don't get me wrong there are plenty of sulky APBT'sbut if they are game they well beat a Rott,Am Bull, Filia even a Tosa unless in Japan where the rules are different and they ant pure APBT'salso they are bashed and weaken before they fight. In Thailand the laugh when you talk about a Tosa beating a APBT because they fight them all the time, same as in Russia. Even if it's a 30lb APBT vs 200lb Tosa it well win, even though it looks like it is loosing for most of the fight then it turns it around and gets the advantage once the Tosa gasses out. Believe me they have been bred for 100's of years for specific reasons. Lets just say they are all as good as each other and love and cherish them instead of letting our own egos comparing which is the better fighter. CHEERS

 

Answer by khan
Submitted on 6/13/2004
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the ovtcharka type dogs are called "kuchis" , pronounced koochees , singular kuchi..or gaddis...pronounced guddee. they are central asian dogs and are commonly used in afghanistan. and sometimes in pakistan. they are good fighters against their own kind. but are no match for a true fighting dog. sometimes they beat up on an inexperienced bully or bull terrier for a lil while cuz the other dog cant get his teeth thru all that hair....but after a lil while , the fighting dog will find a hold that will work and send the message home...lol..yu are right. they are like caucasian ovtcharkas. not fighters. just amazing guard dogs. very aggressive towards ppl. and the fight they put on is just out of aggression , not gameness.
training in pakistan is the same as anyplace else. some ppl have their own "magic potions" and stuff...lol...but its all about a good diet and hard exercise. ppl have the dogs tied to bicycles and motorbikes and make them trot at a medium pace for as long as they deem appropriate. gradually increasing the jogtime. over a period of a couple of months before a major fight. they feed their dogs all sorts of rich stuff during this period. like butter , and other rich milk products. they'll make a 10 month old pup face an old dog with lil or no teeth (they've kept for this very purpose) (a test dog)...for a lil while...to get the taste of battle....and then they'll kickstart their dogs fighting careers with ordinary dogs , slowly climbing the stairs to the best dogs around...and if their dogs are still proving themselves , they will take em to the fights. and into the ring , to face the best dogs from all over the country.

but i personally prefer the old english methods. raw meat diet. plenty of exercise. at a slow trot. one or two trial fights. and then the big league. and i still believe a good EBT or pitbull would beat most of the dogs over here . the only pakistani dogs that could last a long , drawn out battle with these dogs  , are the pure kohati bull terrier or very good examples of bully bull terriers from punjab. bullys are great against larger dogs.
and yes , i've been to the USA. i was born there. and i've been back quite a few times as well. i've lived in different countries before finally coming here.

 

Answer by khan
Submitted on 6/13/2004
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i'll let yu know if i find a good example shady.

 

Answer by bIgDOG
Submitted on 6/13/2004
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well you may be right about somethings but the reason,people care about the toughest dog,is mainly a matter of INTEREST.most people love their dogs and just like to know about them,without fighting them.[that was not my post that said MY APBT KILLED 3 ROTTS AT ONCE]

 

Answer by bigDOG
Submitted on 6/13/2004
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here in the U.S.A. there is many pure white and almost all white pit bulls.the best pit i ever owned was red and white pure Cobly strain,weighing 70 lbs. he was a very smart and powerful pit.he could hang from a fully inflated,full size basketball.[yeah he would end up popping it.]we have some good all white pits right now and they are nice.but i also love the brindles.[seem to be alot of great dogs that are brindle]

 

Answer by khan
Submitted on 6/13/2004
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my dad used to keep pits when we were in the US. i remember a couple of em. one was brindle. the other was blackish. amazing dogs. i even have a pit at home over here. and an EBT female. shes my favourite. another male EBT is the fighting champ of the frontier province. and is at the farm in our ancestral village. also have a few local varieties over there. infact , i'm goin there tomorrow. will be back in a few days. and get back to you. till then , adios.

 

Answer by GoEast
Submitted on 6/15/2004
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My daddy's EBT fight against around 6-8 "kampung" dogs (stray dogs). Lost the battle, body and balls badly bitten by the pack, died 3 days later....manage to kill only one, the one he love most. u can feel the intensity of his love bite on the kampung neck and those crackin sound...grrr..crak..crak..zz..zzzz..zzz.

 

Answer by jono69
Submitted on 6/18/2004
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Rottweiler hands down,its power its agility and the fact that its jaw power is second to none,makes the rottweiler the ultimate fighting dog if this is your thing .me personally it makes a better family pet !

 

Answer by shadyyleee
Submitted on 6/18/2004
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LOL The rottweiler, LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!! a fighting dog? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thats funny, thats just to funny........ HAHAHAHHAHAHAH its agility? hahahhaha its biting power rofl, well it does make a family pet, but not a badass....... they def dont intimadate me like the pitbull would..... pitbulls are also stronger

 

Answer by Jakob
Submitted on 6/20/2004
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a 130 pound Tosa would take down any dog. Easily

 

Answer by Docker Jim
Submitted on 6/20/2004
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As Jakob says, a 130 pound Tosa would take down any dog. I agree, although I think a 130 pound Boerboel would be just as good a fighter. Those two breeds, looks amazingly alike. The Tosa is taller, but the Boerboel is wider across the chest. Amazing breeds those two. Have anyone seen or heard of Boerboels being matched in fights? I have seen it a few times, they are very succesfull in the pit.

 

Answer by SOCKER JIM'S NOSE
Submitted on 6/20/2004
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GO TO TOURYKAI.COM[WWW] IT TELLS HOW YOU LIE ABOUT SEEING ANYTHING.DOCKER JIM

 

Answer by Docker Jim
Submitted on 6/20/2004
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Look at this picture stupido.... Youīll see that the Tosa and the Boerboel is closely related.
http://www.bull-mastiff.de/tosa.html

 

Answer by Le Banner
Submitted on 6/20/2004
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allright all you pit bull lovers. Now take a good and close look at this dog I am going to present you. And if you read carafully, you will see experts writing about this breed. So do not tell me, that those pit bulls are the best fighting breeds in the world.
Look here: http://www.molosserdogs.com/modules.php?name=Encyclopedia&op=content&tid=887

 

Answer by O
Submitted on 6/20/2004
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TOUGHEST DOG IN THE WORD.TYPE IT IN.YOUR OTHER DOGS STAND NO CHANCE

 

Answer by one_1
Submitted on 6/21/2004
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    I saw that some body said no dogs have jaw lock. Pitbulls sure as hell do. My neighbor was a cop and her partner and her were sent to investigate a dogfight and one guy set his pitbull on her partner, so the people would have time to get away, well the dog grabbed the guy by the shoulder and he shot the dog and they had to saw the dogs bottom jaw off because they couldn't pry the dead dogs jaw open because it locked.

 

Answer by maximus
Submitted on 6/21/2004
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Docker Jim.. You just prove how thick you are buy saying that the Tosa and Boerboel are closely related Just because you think they look alike (which they dont!) because the boerboel was bred in AFRICA and the tosa is from JAPAN ..

 

Answer by maximus
Submitted on 6/21/2004
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I JUST LOOKED AT THE PHOTO OF THE TOSA AND THE BOERBOEL AND THEY HAVE GOT TO BE THE WORST BRED TYPES OF THERE BREED!! GO ON WWW.MOLOSS.COM AND CHECK OUT SOME REAL BOERBOELS AND TOSAS

 

Answer by dogs mate
Submitted on 6/21/2004
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great danes bunch of sissys!

 

Answer by master ob
Submitted on 6/22/2004
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all you people forget the presa canario which is a over size pitbull on steroids..although at the end of the day it all depends on the dog and a bit of luck the ultimate pit fighting dogs are apbt and tosas ..but i reckon a trained canario would probably beat the best of pits and prob even tosas which i rate tougher than the apbt all this of course i dont condone , hate people who fight dogs i just respect the fact that these are the hardest dogs in the world.but i wont take it away from my two rottys who are my best friends and god forbid if a theif broke in they would take him down with ease they are big and strong but as all our animals we keep should be pets not fighters

 

Answer by shadyyleee
Submitted on 6/23/2004
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And to the mentally retarted the link u gave me to this dog which is http://www.molosserdogs.com/modules.php?name=Encyclopedia&op=content&tid=887 LMFAO

 

Answer by Le Banner
Submitted on 6/24/2004
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Listen Shadyyleee... Pit Bulls are a tough breed, but they are increasingly being used to mix into stronger and better fighting breeds, as for example the Serbian Defence Dog on the above link. I mean, anyone can figure out (prob. not shadyyleee) that if you take a pitbull and mix it with the black russian terrier, the giant schnauzer and maybe some Fila or Tosa, you would get one hell of an fighter. Do your study and donīt tell me you know nothing. Zlatko one friend of mine, have got a serbian Defence Dog. It is one of those dogs that makes your trousers slobby. I tell you........

 

Answer by BIG DOG
Submitted on 6/25/2004
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THAT MAKES LITTLE SENSE.IF THE OTHER BREEDS NEED PIT BULLS TO MAKE THEM TOUGHER,THEN THE PURE PIT MUST BE BETTER TO START WITH..........DUH?

 

Answer by cmann19078
Submitted on 6/25/2004
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I AM GOING TO TELL YOU GUYS THIS ONE TIME ANYONE IN THIS ROOM THAT SAYS A ROTTIE ,DOBIE OR A GERMAN SHEPARD IS THE BEST FIGHTING DOG SHOULD NOT BE ARGUED WITH YOU KNOW THAT THE FOOL SAYING THAT HAS NO IDEA WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT WHY WASTE YOUR TIME TYPING AND THE OTHER FOOL THAT HAD TO PRY THE DEAD PITBULL OFF A COP BECAUSE THE JAWS WERE LOCKED YOU KNOW THAT THAT FOOL ALSO HAS NO IDEA WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT DONT WASTE YOUR TIME AND JUST ONE MORE THING I BET OUT OF ALL THE PEOPLE IN HERE ARGUING THE TOUGHEST BREED MAYBE JUST 2 OF YOU HAVE EVER BEEN TO A DOG FIGHT MAYBE YOU SEEN A FIGHT ON THE STREET AND YOUR DOG WON THAT FIGHT BUT THE PIT IS A WHOLE OTHER GAME AND ALL OF YOU THAT HAD DOGS THAT KILLED OTHER DOGS IN FIGHTS SHAME ON YOU FOR LYING UNLESS YOUR BULL BREED GOT A HOLD OF A LITTLE TOY DOG IT NEVER KILLED ANOTHER DOG AND RIPPED THE NECK OUT OF NOTHING THERE IS NO ANSWER TO THE TOUGHEST BREED BUT YOU CAN CERTAINLY MAKE A TOP 5 LIST BUT NO BREED IS GUARANTEED TO BE THE TOUGHEST JUST BECAUSE YOU BUY A CERTAIN BREED DOESNT MAKE HIM THE TOUGHEST IT JUST SAYS YOU HAVE A BREED WITH A HISTORY OF WINNING........CHRIS

 

Answer by Le Banner
Submitted on 6/26/2004
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Actually BigDog I do agree with you. The pit is prob. still one of the best fighting breeds, but over time better fighting breeds will be created with the pit bulls genes in it. I mean, everything changes all the time. 50 years ago, the microwaveoven would be science fiction, but nowadays it is almost an anticue.... The same will probably happen to the pit. New dogs will take over and rule the world of dog-fighting.
Actually I wonder, how the old bulldog would do in a match today. The bulldog from the year 1700-1800. Could be fun.  

 

Answer by BIGDOG
Submitted on 6/26/2004
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I understand the old time bulldog was pretty much the pit bull.in fact i have a 1856 book that shows the pit bulls picture[drawing]that looks like the present day pit,only its just called bulldog.

 

Answer by lutons don
Submitted on 6/26/2004
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LISN ALL U MOTHAFUKAS WE ALL KNOW DAT AKITAS R DA BEST MOTHAFUKIN  FIGHTERS DEY KIK YO ASS ANYDAY DER RUFF MAN TRUST ME IVE GOT ONE ITLL RIP U APART ITS HAD BARE FIGHTS AND IT AINT LOST 1 YET ITS A PRETTY BIG DOG ITS FRIENDLY AND PLAYFULL BUT ALSO VERY VERY VERY FIRECR AND RUFF AND TUFF!!!!

 

Answer by shadyylee
Submitted on 6/27/2004
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LOL hey my freind if u think the sdd is such a bad ass dog put your money where your mouth is, ill shut you up real quick, i have connections all around the usa, of course if you dont put your money where your mouth is its living proof that u have no idea what u are talking about,

 

Answer by Hyenasdabomb
Submitted on 6/29/2004
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Wolves,Rotts,Tosas,Akitas,APitBulls,Bulldogsetc...How about a bonafide kickass, killer like the Mother of all Fighting Dogs, a freakin' hungry-ass killing machine HYENA
with the jaw pressure off a GreatWhiteShark.

 

Answer by rims
Submitted on 6/30/2004
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hey all you people out there. The pit bull is the purest fighting dog and anyother dog that is considered a fighting dog has some pit in him. A pit has everything.And khan i dont think u know wut u are talking bout. A lot of stuff i read on other sites are what you post on ur sites.And all these dogs such as the bully originated in India and now has become modern pakistan. Specifically bewalpur i think is where it originated which was part of India. But u do know ur dogs but these pakistani dogs are all descendants of Old Indian dogs. Dog fights dont take place in India often cuz there is ACTUALLY A GOVERNMENT WITH LAWs. Im sorry but its the truth. BUT KHAN u do KNOW A LOT. But just wanted to lety u know
where these dogs really originated.ALso i dont think its very cool to scrap ur dogs to death its a cruel sport. And it also depends a lot on the dog itself. The Tosa i dont think could last a pit. If the pit stood its ground and attacked 25-35 minutes later the tosa would be dead tired. Thats where the pit bulls agility comes into place.

 

Answer by rims
Submitted on 6/30/2004
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o ya i forgot the SDD/serbian defense dog is not even a registered dog. Sorry LOL
the dog also has the purest fighting game pits in it so it wouldnt have been anything even if it is anything without the ULTIMATE PITBULL TERRIER

 

Answer by bb
Submitted on 6/30/2004
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the best dog fighter is the american pit bull terrier it wins most of the time a fila is not even a real fighting dog it would get its ass kicked by a pitbull any day

 

Answer by khan
Submitted on 6/30/2004
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hyenas are not even dogs yu idiot!. lol...and theyre not fighters. they just have a strong bite. cuz theyre nature's clean -up machines. scavengers!. they need strong jaws to crush large decaying bones. and dogs have hurt hyenas. in pakistan , they used to pit em against EBTs and kohati bull terriers in quetta some 30 years ago. the hyenas were saved from a devastating throat hold many a time. sometimes the dogs would get badly bitten and be pulled out of the fight. but lots of times , the hyena would be badly hurt. and some were even killed.

 

Answer by khan
Submitted on 6/30/2004
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  sorry to let yu down ol' boy , but my knowledge is not just "bookish". i own fighting dogs. my dad and his dad and uncles owned em before me. they run in the family. and all of pakistan was once india. lol..so?????...some ancestors of the bully dog were local and persian dogs. some were brought over by foreign invaders. no one really knows the exact history of the breed. everyones guessing. i just say what i believe to be true. i may be wrong. or i may be right. it is believed that they came from bahwalpur cuz the nawab of BWP owned many fine examples of the sindhi bully. some ppl say alexander took his mollossian dogs from india. some say it was the other way around. no ones sure. india may have a government with laws , but it still has one of the highest poverty rates in the world and poverty breeds corruption. .  india is not all its trumped up to be by the media. the paki and indian societies are virtually the same. the same illegal activities are commonplace in both countries. indians , on average , just dont have a taste for dogfighting. pakistani villagers and some city dwellers are a lot more into the sport. and thats y we've got some pretty good fighters in this country.

 

Answer by Le Banner
Submitted on 6/30/2004
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Listen rims. Serbian defence Dog is not a purebreed and the same goes for the pitbull. None of them is registered by the AKC. So what is a purebreed? The southafrican Boerboel is not registered by the AKC either, even though it is a very old breed. So what is your point????? The fact is, that the serbian defence dog can and do beat the pitbull terrier in the pit.
And I could ask you the same, the pitbull wouldnīt be anything without the bloodlines from the 1800 century bulldog. So the pitbull is just one big mix of breeds. YOU KNOW NOTHING. By the way, I am impressed by Khan and what he knows about this issue. So Rims, you are the one who knows nothing here in this forum....period

 

Answer by rims
Submitted on 6/30/2004
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o le banne the pit is not registered but the staff is and they are both "VIRTUALLY"
the SAME THING. And as for SDD's u cant even buy them around here and when u said something about them that was the 1st time i heard bout them.

 

Answer by Shotoking
Submitted on 6/30/2004
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Hi all ,

Just wanted to say that this is a very interesting subject.Now Rim just a friendly advice,you may know alot about this matter but no one knows all.So if it is the first time you hear about the SDD then maybe you need to do some research.I never heard about it ether but we need always to keep an open mind.I do think that people are always looking to make a better dog or breed and chances are that better dogs will come about.That will make it more interesting if we learn of a new mitty dog.Wouldnt you all agree.I am not bashing anyone.I think you are all cool and i read this post every day to see whats new.Keep up the subject be cool.
Regards.

 

Answer by xeecft
Submitted on 7/1/2004
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I have been all over the world watching dog fights and have seen many outcomes in witch the pittbull was victorious.
these are some matches ive seen.
pitt vs akita, pitt won hands down
pitt vs rotti, pitt won
pitt vs american bull terrier the pitt destroyed it.I have seen pbt defeat almost every type of fighting dog out their. the most gruelling match was a pbt against a canary but the pbt won again Im not a huge fan of dog fighting and a pbt is certianly not my favourite dog but that is what ive seen, I'd have to say that the pbt is the ultimate fighting dog

 

Answer by khan
Submitted on 7/1/2004
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whats a pitt?...its pit , not pitt!...and whats an american bull terrier?...an amstaff or pitbull?...so u saw a pit destroy a pit ???..ahaan. all over the world aye?  and just 3 or 4 fights to show for it?..hmmm...pit vs. rott...WOWWW!!....i must say yu've seen everything there is to see. lmao

 

Answer by rims
Submitted on 7/1/2004
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I believe that a dog that has some pit in it is not  a good dog. If it is  a mix i may add. Because the head of the mix is to small and the brain always grows as the pits does so that makes the head to small for the brain and the brain does not have enough space to grow in which damages it making the dog literally crazy. This is what i have heard. I have done some research on the SDD and looks like a cool dog but it looks like it has to MUCH rotti in it. And it also has some pit which would make it  a lil crazy. So i wouldnt trust the SDD around me as i would not trust any other pit mix. Khan you think that the head brain is true and if u think bout the dogs that attack humans that u hear about in the news are mostly a  "a pitbull CROSS mauled...". Does anyone else agree with the head brain part i mean iv heard it a lot and it is a defect in most pit mixes. Well  ya the last guy was right KEEP AN OPEN MIND.But till today unlesss i see videos of an SDD beating a pitbull i wont believe it. Also u have to understand that the SDD's is a dog from and cold country such as russia, bosnia I believe.They are aslo working on its registration i read. And pits arent used to fighting in the cold so maybe thats one reason if it is TRUE that u have witnessed a pit being beat by a SDD.
WELL see YA

 

Answer by rims
Submitted on 7/1/2004
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go to http://www.molosserdogs.com/modules.php?name=Encyclopedia&op=content&tid=2765 and see where all the dogs originated such as the bull terrier and bully kutta and how they did. Also go here http://www.molosserdogs.com/modules.php?name=Molossers and click on the breed u want to know about and u will see their history. The buly kutta has also originated from strands of english mastiffs which are the same but named different and found in england etc. Well see ya these are awesome informative links.

 

Answer by macker 
Submitted on 7/1/2004
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pit vs rott.....yeah right! rotts arent even considered fighters and nobody in their right mind still uses n akita to fight a pit. i'veseen fights in south america and pits and tosas have been beat several times by dogos presas and many others including mixes. i'veeven seen a pit get tossed around by a cane corso. It always depends on the dog, regardless of the dogs backround.

 

Answer by jc
Submitted on 7/2/2004
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Whats wrong with that xeecft? Im so sure hes been all over  the world.He may be lying about that but u can't argue with simple facts the pit or apbt is the best fighting dog out their.Ive seen so many dog fights and they all include the pit winning.
My friend who owns a pit breeding kennel.
he has huge freak-show pit's that are pushing 100lbs its just a matter of how he bred the different types of pits.I'd have to say the best fight ive ever seen was just a few weeks ago when my buddy took one of his large pits(Merkin) out to be seen by a customer since hes a stud and she had a few interesting dogs of her own loose. A very large male tosa walks out and comes over to check out the dog so he slowly walked to the back end of him and just snapped and lunged and managed to get a hold of the back of the pits neck and started shaking it but the pit threw its weight forward using so much force that it rolled the Tosa over its back and onto the ground. Long story short my friend had to pay for a new Tosa.

 

Answer by cola
Submitted on 7/2/2004
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my Akita will kick ass

 

Answer by shotoking
Submitted on 7/2/2004
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Hey people ,
Check out the following link.....lots of cool stuff.
http://home.socal.rr.com/mainliner/bulldoglinks.html

 

Answer by macker
Submitted on 7/2/2004
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i'veseen pits ge beat many times, thy are not the unbeatable fighting machines you think they are.

 

Answer by Shotoking
Submitted on 7/2/2004
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Now this is a scary looking pit....
http://www.monsterpitkennel.com/

 

Answer by NEAL
Submitted on 7/3/2004
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MACKER IS A LIAR.HE AIN'T SEEN JACK.

 

Answer by khan
Submitted on 7/3/2004
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mackers right. pits are not unbeatable. they win some and they lose some. any good dog with fighting blood can beat any other. depends on the individual. and the SDD is a relatively new breed. only about 20 years old. and its said that they are prized fighters . valued as "unbeatable gladiators" in serbia. regularly beating the most tenacious of pitbulls. well , as i understand the SDD or SOP has a lot of pit blood in it. so its like the bandogge etc. its a pit crossbred. and is apparently stronger than the average pit. but thats what the serbs say ofcourse. and it might be true. but like i said before , any good dog with fighting blood can beat any other. no one breed is unbeatable.

the molosserdogs site has listed lots of breeds , but the information provided in most cases is far from accurate. its crap!..lol

and the big brain , small head theory makes no sense. pitbulls have larger skulls to accomodate larger jaw muscles . and fighting dogs just have greater bone density perhaps. to take strong blows from larger animals , like bears etc.

 

Answer by khan
Submitted on 7/3/2004
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most of the time I don't know what im talking about your all faggets

 

Answer by Le Banner.
Submitted on 7/3/2004
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I agree with macker.... Very much actually. It all depends on the individual dog.
Stamina is important and stamina is a genetic thing, but can also be trained. I know. I am a physical therapist. I train people everyday.
So that is why some owners let their pit run in threadmills. To get more stamina. I mean,  if you had a tosa running constantly in a threadmill, I wouldnīt put my money on any of the pits meeting that beast. Or any other dog for that matter. Well maybe the SDD.
Im just totally fed up with this pitbull mania, please understand that it depends on the individual. To be quite honest, I enjoy everytime a pit gets beaten. I hate the looks of pits. They suck. No personality.
And the SDD I know, is such a loving dog. Also against other dogs. But when it comes to fighting, it is a killing machine.

 

Answer by bigDOG
Submitted on 7/3/2004
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yeah when someone makes sense someone always has to MOCK them.because they have no understanding of how things work.of course all PIT BULLS ARE NOT THE BEST.BUT THE VERY TOP BEST ONES ARE NOT BEATEN BY OTHER BREEDS,THAT IS THE WAY I HAVE SEEN IT OVER THE YEARS ANYHOW.

 

Answer by bigDOG
Submitted on 7/3/2004
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no personality?the pit bulls even smile at their owners,when pleased.they are very loving dogs.its treadmill not thread,you should no this if your a P.T.!YOU DO NOT KNOW MUCH ABOUT PITS THATS FOR SURE.the Japanese run tosas 10-12miles each day while training them.they still do not prevail against the pit always.as the pits are all that will fight besides tosas.the tosas are not as game just bigger.if you go to www.tourukai.com and click on history you will see the in japan,all breeds have been tried,only pits and tosas worked out in the pit contests.

 

Answer by BIGDOG
Submitted on 7/3/2004
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THATS WWW.TOURYKAI.COM

 

Answer by Fighting dog owner
Submitted on 7/3/2004
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I have several fighting breed: bull.T, APBT, Tosa Inu, and a cross breed of my making between a Bull.T and an STAFFY. The mixed breed which I all a "bully" is three generation old. I now have the third generation "Bully" who interacts with the above-mentioned breeds, who some out weigh it by 85 pounds. To get to the point, I have seen all my dogs fight against other dogs for example, my tosa "Bruiser"  hands down beat in about 5 min a APBT and English bulldog, both fights happend in a bar in the Florida Keys were I love to walk my dogs. My other Breed APBT defeated a great dane and an akita (female) in about 15 min (akita by the way gave a hell of a fight); But now my litle 50 pound "Bully" (STAFFY mixed with a bull.T) Hands down I consider the better fighter of all my dogs, he at about 50 pounds killed my Seasoned "Bruiser" don't know How but when I awoke one morning I found blood all over the place and "bully" Who I named champ after unseeding "Bruiser" was in a corner sulking afraid of what I was going to do to him. now they were both together in the same corale.  They had alway gotten along, basically; what I am trying to say is that size or strength to a certain degree doesn't determine the outcome of fights
with dogs. I have realized that these smaller STAFFY and Bull.T are just as strong when it come to the biting force, but the advantage comes in the stamina and agility, its analogous to Mike Tyson he's a big puncher but not a really big heavy weight, He can easily go down to the lesser weight levels and still probably beat the heaviest heavy weight at even 185 lbs. Now mind you I'm talking about the Tyson of the early 90's.. These little tough breeds the new "Bully's" are cropping out every where. there a dynamo of power in-cased in pure muscle. My next door neighbor just bought 2 Bully's from me. he is very impressed with there overall demeanor. in conclusion I only breed my Bully's for protection not Fighting, The fights that I mentioned above all happend either while walking my dogs and in one obedience training class which I frequently take all my dogs too.  

 

Answer by khan
Submitted on 7/4/2004
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all fighting breeds are great dogs. they all deserve our respect. they are all willing to fight to the death for their owners. they are the best of the best.

 

Answer by jm
Submitted on 7/4/2004
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whats wrong with a presa

 

Answer by bigDOG
Submitted on 7/4/2004
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ALL DOGS DESERVE MORE THAN THEY USUALLY GET!

 

Answer by rims
Submitted on 7/4/2004
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and la banne u think u know but u dont. Cuz a pitbull is registered under in the UKC but maybe not the AKC. But the staffie is registered under the AKC. And they are the same thing. Show pits are registered as Staffies and fighting Staffies are known as PITS. They are the same thing ASSHOLE. So u dont KNOW. And the ukc was formed for the sole purpose of recognizing pits. So shut the F*** up

 

Answer by Dog Lover
Submitted on 7/5/2004
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couldn't have said it better myself

 

Answer by scooby
Submitted on 7/5/2004
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I have a lab that likes to sleep alot and swim I bet he could beat up any dog in the water, it depends where the fighting is taking place.

 

Answer by bigDOG
Submitted on 7/5/2004
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thats crazy,i have a lab too.and hes not a bad fighter.strong and fast.but he is not as game as a pit bull.i have alittle game 50lbs pit that play fights him all the time.even though he weighs 35 lb. more he can't do a thing with her.pit bulls have webbed feet like a lab.she swims as well as he does.but i do not think any dog would care to fight in the water.

 

Answer by khan
Submitted on 7/6/2004
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btw , thats my nick on someone else's post. i did'nt call anyone a fag. and i'll still try to stay civilized.

 

Answer by BOOM99
Submitted on 7/6/2004
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Philly boy,you giving your rott a death wish..u  dont want to fight no rott against an akita,unless you just plain stupid.
we fight dogs everyday down here in macon,georgia. only dog rott ever came out on top against was a doberman and we fight every sunday and monday.trust me akita is up there will pit bull when it comes to killer instinct,so dont go doing something stupid and get your dog killed.
just looking out for you

 

Answer by BITEno BARK
Submitted on 7/6/2004
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I AGREE YOU SHOULDNT FIGHT A ROTT AGAINST AN AKITA,HEY PHILLY BOY,UNLESS YOU WANT YOUR ROTT TO BE A DOG ORGAN DONOR,I WOULD KEEP HIM ON A TIGHT LEASH IN A BACKYARD AND LET HIM DO WHAT HE WAS MEANT TO DO,PROTECT THE HOUSE AGAINST STRANGERS AND GIVE THAT FEROCIOUS BARK TO INTIMIDATE OTHER DOGS AND STRANGERS. DONT GET ME WRONG,THE ROTTWEILER IS FAR FROM A PUNK,IT COULD HOLD A GOOD FIGHT AGAINST MANY KILLER DOGS,BUT TO CRULY CRUCIFY IT BY PUTTING IT UP AGAINST A READY GAMED AKITA IS FOOLISH.ROTTS COULD KILL DOBERMANS,GERMAN SHEPHERDS CHOW,SOME WOULD EVEN SAY A MASTIFF. I HAVE A NEO MASTIFF AND ITS 168 LBS,SO I WOULDNT FIGHT IT. BUT IF I WOULD,IM CERTAIN A ROTT MAY HOLD A DECENT FIGHT.BUT ITS NOT A KILLER DOG,A PIT WOULD DESTROY A ROTT INSTANTLY,SO WOULD A AKITA,BUT NOT AS QUICK.
COLA,IF I WERE YOU,DONT TAKE HIM UP ON THAT FIGHT,HE WOULD SUE YOU FOR PAIN AND SUFFERING AND CHARGE YOU WITH THE MURDER OF HIS ROTT.

 

Answer by Le Banner
Submitted on 7/6/2004
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Funny to see how intelligence affect peoples vocabulary. Just look at RIMS language. He must be working in a coal mine or something. Or maybe a shipyard. Definitely some sort of industry........
And also I wonder if any pit bulls are owned by well educated and intelligent people. Pits are dogs for brain dead people with little D....
Rocco Sifreddi and Peter North must have dogs the sizes of Chihuahuas then..... Muhahahahahaha

 

Answer by phillyboy2U
Submitted on 7/6/2004
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you must be crazy  a rott will kill a doberman and mastiff, it might not kill a bull mastiff but it would win and same goes for the akita. i feed my rott  hamburger meat raw and whole steaks,he would be way to much for colas akita. i got money that says my rott will beat an akita anyday. i know it would lock on any pit bull and knock him down with his chest.
enough about akitas, the real killers are rotts and everyone knows it and you will too cola if you care to fight my rott

 

Answer by 21ANDGROWN
Submitted on 7/6/2004
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everyone knows the REAL KILLERS ARE PITS.
quit making your dog out to be more then what it is,b4 you get your feelings hurt when that pit locks all over your "killer rott" and bully mastiff.
i never heard of akitas so i cant tell you one thing about them. im hood and up here in east new york (brooklyn 4 you lames) dudes be keeping some pits and rotts.
(any fine brothas on here wanna holla at a fine dominican sista,hit me up for pics)
anyway,no more talk about your mean bullmastiff and how your rott killed 3 pits,your lies are so funny it makes me think there are nothing but 15 year olds on here, real brothas,holla back

 

Answer by 21ANDGROWN
Submitted on 7/6/2004
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phillyboy why you picking a dog fight with a girl,you LAMMEEEEEEEEEEE.
but you reppin philly so i understand why you may be such a punk.
cola,you better get in his dentals and rep hard for us sistas,look like all men on here and they picking on you because of your akita.
are they really that mean?
what is phillyboy smoking,he sounds like he in love with his dog,hey phillyboy did you take your rott to prom?
dont say you dont remember,it was just a few months ago. youngin!!
your dog aint no killer!,your dog aint no killer!

 

Answer by macker
Submitted on 7/6/2004
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if your still fighting akitas than you guys are nothing but amateurs with way too much time on your hands.

 

Answer by haze
Submitted on 7/6/2004
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LOL ROTS are the biggest pussie ass dogs i have ever seen hey PHILLYBOY, i got a few connection around the states with pits, if u want to prove your rott game, we can set up a match and u can put your money where your mouth is? answer back we can exchange phone numbers and get a match together, i fealing like making a buck or 2

 

Answer by cola
Submitted on 7/6/2004
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I have Animal Insurance on both my Akitas. Unfortunately, This policy only pays out a $25,000 reward if one of them get killed. That mean I would have to get gun and shot the damn number 2 or 1st better dog in the head. Cause from what you are saying that I would lose! YEAH okay. Pilly you feed your dog a lot of raw meat, huh? Fat MUTT. All My Akita would have to do is walk past it and it will tumble over. :) 21and grown - that's for the look out. But you know a small below man need a big bad dog to assistant him in "BELEIVING " he has a big ego.

 

Answer by phillyboy2U
Submitted on 7/7/2004
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COLA,IM TELLING YOU ONE LAST TIME SO YOU CAN PUT TO  REST YOUR IGNORANCE ABOUT YOUR LITTLE HUSKY WANNA BE, AKITAS STAND NO CHANCE AGAINST A ROTT,NOT YOURS,NOT O.J'S AND NOT THE BIGGEST BADDEST ONE. MY ROTT WILL KILL YOUR AKITA,IT HAS ALREADY KILLED 4 PIT BULLS AND 2 OTHER ROTTS. AKITAS COULD KILL MAYBE A DALMATIAN OR MAYBE,MAYBE A BORDER COLLIE,BUT NOT MY ROTT,IT JUST KILLED A 99LB PITBULL.
HAZE,IF YOU WANT TO FIGHT YOUR PIT AGAINST MY ROTT THATS YOUR OWN BAD DECISION,AND I CANT LET YOU  DO THAT,YOU KNOW MY ROTT IS THE ONLY KILLER BREED OUT BESIDES THE TOSA, AND A COUPLE OTHERS.
I DONT WANT TO KILL YOUR DOG

 

Answer by 21ANDGROWN
Submitted on 7/7/2004
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YEA COLA,THAT IS WRONG WITH THESE BROTHAS TODAY,THEY GET A BIG DOG LIKE THAT PHILLYBOY BUT WONT FIGHT MAN TO MAN. I BET PHILLYBOY USE TO GET HIS ASS HANDED TO HIM ON A DAILY BASIS,SO NOW HE GOES AROUND SICKING HIS FAT MUTT ON PEOPLE,BUT HE NEED NOT TRY THAT WITH NO PIT, A PIT CAN JUST LOCK ON ANY DOG AND THEN GAME OVER. I GOT ON LINE TO LOOK UP AKITAS NOW I KNOW WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE,THERES THIS CAT NAMED SAMMY SNOOZE UP HERE,AND HE LIKE IN ALOT OF LETS SAY INDEPENDENT SALES OR SOMETHING,ANYWAY HE STAYED IN THE BRICKS UNTIL HE GOT LIKE 35 AND THEN HE BOUGHT HIM A HOUSE UP IN QUEENS AND HE GOT LIKE A 6 FT TALL METAL GATE,AND WHEN WE WENT UP THERE HE HAD LIKE 4 OF THOSE AKITAS,ONE OF MY DUDES WERE SCHOOLING ME ON THEM AKITAS,HE SAID SAMMY CANT AFFORD TO HAVE ANYBODY BREAK IN THE YARD AND THEN GET PAST ANY TYPE OF DOGS,SO HE GOT THE ONES HE FELT WOULD PROTECT AND SERVE SOMEONE ASS IF THEY TRIED SOME SNEAKY STUFF. AND BELIEVE ME,IF U KNOW SAMMY ,HE DONT MAKE TO MANY BAD JUDGEMENTS SO I THINK YOU ON POINT WITH YOUR AKITAS,DONT LET THESE PUNKS LIKE PHILLYBOY SCARE YOU,HE JUST ACTING FOR REAL I NEVER SEEN A ROTT KILL A PIT,ON THE REAL PHILLYBOY HAVENT EITHER,HE JUST WANTS SOME ATTENTION,POOR BABY.

 

Answer by rottsrock
Submitted on 7/7/2004
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well i must say  i would have to say that apbt can  and will be beatenin a fight .
next door to where i live they own a pitbull believe me yes its big  and mad as hell .
anyway it got over the fence  i came home from work to find blood all over my rotty and all over the yard  there it was lying in a pool of blood   with half its head cut of  you see my rotty killed that poor dog .
yes my dog needed 20 so stitches   i should tell you now that my rott weighed in about 180 pound  so yeh he is one big boy.
well i guess what im trying to say is that not all apbt are winners when it comes to dog fights.
i do agree that yes pound for pound they are strong but  on this ocation was no match with my rotty.
and yes my mate has a  apbt we was walking it along a road went into someones property  it got into a fight with  a some kind of mastiff breed  take my word  it was huge its head alone was as big as my mates apbt  AS WE BOTH RUN TO TRY AND GET TO OUR APBT IT WAS ALL OVER HE WAS DEAD

 

Answer by godHATESme
Submitted on 7/7/2004
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OK OUTSIDE OF ANY PIT BULL BREED CAUSE WE ALL KNOW WHAT THERE GOOD FOR,CAN SOMEONE RANK THESE DOGS IN ORDER OF PURE AGGRESION AND FIGHTING ALONE?
PLEASE.

1.Doberman
2.Shar Pei
3.Rott
4.German Shepherd
5.Akita
6.Bull mastiff
7.

 

Answer by middle finger raised
Submitted on 7/7/2004
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Although i remain neutral in this argument Dr Carl Semencic (a respected dogman ) says on his website........................ "The pit bull is definitely a tough dog and, all things considered, it is definitely the "dog of choice" among those who fight dogs, but before anyone goes bragging about how tough his pit bull is, he'd better be sure he knows how tough Akitas are."...............so considering that and alot of the other Akitas i've seen the only conclusion for "rottsrock" post is ......................he is a total dik.

 

Answer by Babs To Rottsrock
Submitted on 7/7/2004
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You must have one fat Rotti for him to reach that weight...I am also sure that his hips are junk too...any working bred Rotti (not fighting, I am against it) doesnt come close to that weight...I also cant believe that all you men are that insecure that you need to fight your dogs...Grow up and get a job

 

Answer by s
Submitted on 7/7/2004
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180 lb. rott?lol

 

Answer by bigman
Submitted on 7/7/2004
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LMFAO, u guys know nothing about dog fighting paka is the country for dog fighting, they fight dogs over there to the death, SOME OF THE BEST bull terriers over there, all kinds, and there is not rot or akita gonna beat any of the dogs over there, there just not breed to, simple as that.......

 

Answer by Totalrage
Submitted on 7/7/2004
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Hey i have seen very few "set" dog fights.
I did see a Rott and a Neo Mastiff fight and the two big boys where very equal(Neo winning after 10 minutes).
But i did see a Rott get his ass kick all over the place by a small APT.Specialy after the Rott tired up.My point is, i dont think many dogs have the stamina that the APT has.
If the big dog wants to win.....he better do it fast or else his ass is ground.

 

Answer by rottsrock
Submitted on 7/8/2004
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middle finger     lol lol ya crazy and with those people who think that apt is god  of all dogs ya got to be crazy to.
ive seen a cat jump onto a pit bull lmao you should have seen that dog run oh yeh he was huge pit .
i dont dislike apbt but get sick of people saying that they are or this and or that which they not they just dogs  they got blood they bleed .
bigman you hero  ya right i no nothin about dog fighting  but then again i dont like watching them rip each other to bits  
bigman tell me somthink   would you say if a rotty or even mastiff  of that kind was to grab on to the pbt throat now lets say it was on the ground  
what would happen i bet you it be dead as a door nail  same goes if the pbt grabs the rotty or any of them fighting dogs  by the throat i would say it be all over  for that dog .
ive seen on a video a tosa pin a pbt on ground jaws on its throat that dog was dead
same goes with the pbt  end of story.

 

Answer by middle finger raised
Submitted on 7/8/2004
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No i ain't crazy let me explain things to you in a clear and simple way.......

the Rottweiler was bred to be a GAURD DOG and at that it is truley an amazing dog for that purpose. The Pit Bull was primarily bred to be a FIGHTING DOG just like many other of its formidable opponents. I am in no way saying that no Rottweiler can be beat a Pit Bull because im sure there are accounts were that has happened BUT the APBT 99.9% of the time would kill a Rott in the fighting ring BECAUSE THE ROTT WAS NOT MEANT FOR THAT PURPOSE!!!!!!!! Maybe in a scuffle in the park lots of Rotts would get the better of some dogs even APBT but the fighting ring is NOTHING like a scuffle in the park.

Now was that clear or would you like me to send you another explanation written in some crayons????

 

Answer by S
Submitted on 7/8/2004
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liar ass rottstock.no cat EVER RAN A PIT BULL OFF.YOU ARE A NON-SPELLING LIAR.END OF STORY!!DUMB-ASS.

 

Answer by rottsrock
Submitted on 7/8/2004
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and as for you middle finger im well aware that rotts not a fighting dog now listen here coz im only saying it once
i never said they  were fighters  i was just statingwhat had happend  i wasnt saying anymore than that  so next time i wont say nothing ok  i dont want to hurt your feelings lol
and i dont fight any dogs got it  read what i wrote   and another thing is that i was also saying that apbt     are not amortal  
but i do have alot of respect for the breed its a pitty how people abuse that breed  pbt not dangerous  we humans are dangerous

 

Answer by TOTALRAGE
Submitted on 7/9/2004
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Rottsrock, I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT IN SAYING THAT IF THE ROTT OR A MASTIFF WAS TO GRAB OR PIN DOWN THE PIT ,IT WOULD KILL IT SINCE THEY ARE SO STRONG AND HEAVY.THE THING IS THAT IT IS DIFFICULT BECOUSE THE PITT IS FAST...BUT YOU ARE RIGHT AND IT HAS HAPPENED MORE THAN ONCE.THAT 99.9 % OFF PITTS WINNING IS ALITTLE EXAGERATED BUT THE PITT ARE VERY GOOD AT WHAT THEY WHERE MEANT TO DO.....

 

Answer by 21ANDGROWN
Submitted on 7/9/2004
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THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH PEOPLE HAVING HOBBIES BABS,IF DOG FIGHTING OFFENDS YOU THEN MAYBE YOU NEED TO TRY ANOTHER MESSAGE BOARD,WE DONT NEED ALOT OF NEGATIVE PEOPLE ON HERE BECAUSE IT ONLY MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE A CHILD WHO IS ALWAYS SNITCHING.
BABS,I MEAN BABS,THATS YOUR NAME ON HERE,BABS...OK BABS.
PITS,AKITA'S ROTTS,BULLMASTIFF'S ARE MY BABIES, GOD BLESS EVERYONE OF YOU WHO OWN ONE, PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE JEALOUS HATERS STARVING FOR ATTENTION (PHILLYBOY,BABS)
KEEP DOING YOUR THING,WHETER ITS FIGHTING THEM OR BREEDING THEM....WE ALL HAVE HOBBIES AND THINGS THAT EXCITE US IN LIFE,WHO IS BABS OR ANYONE ELSE TO TELL YOU TO GROW UP...KEEP LETTING THEM HATE,THEY WILL LIVE LIFE SHORTER THEN OVERMATCH PIT OR ROTT.

 

Answer by TOTALRAGE
Submitted on 7/9/2004
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Nice 21ANDGROWN......i hate people that make themself police of others ....snitches go else where....respect others and let live.

 

Answer by Babs : to 21 & grown
Submitted on 7/9/2004
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When you can spell and graduate high school, and hit puberty I will listen to you ok?  Do you comprehend or is that too big of a word for you?  My other thing is when you talk in a more educated manner about dogs and breeds maybe people will listen to you...Every breed that you mentioned are pretty much over bred medical disasters....Talk about real breeds, ok....I go to this board because it humors me, 90% have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to breeds 180# rotts, Akitas, Bull Mastiffs (LOL) Go see real dogs.  I bet you couldnt handle a true imported working line Rotti...that is not the ruined american bred one, I am talking about the real ones...

 

Answer by rottsrock
Submitted on 7/10/2004
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totalrage   i do 110%agree with your comment
its that i was just anoyed before .not at you
you know some people can get on your nerves
but yes i do agree in what your saying.
i think everyone in there own way is  intital to saying there opinion in any think they say .
oh and for those people out there who think my spelling is not great well thats just  bad luck i didnt come in here to be told i cant spell  not everyone is perfect .......

 

Answer by ko.zeus04
Submitted on 7/10/2004
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i love message boards.
there is always a loser who never had any friends in life,got beat up in school, raped by their parents and now is a trans gender being,,,,,but enough about babs.....the rest of you guys rock!!!!!...heres hoping that babs untimely death is around the corner!!!
rotts rule,pits kill,mastiffs rock and akitas are just plain vicious!

 

Answer by Le Banner
Submitted on 7/10/2004
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Dear RIMS. Please donīt go to Uni..... The people there will dislike you, simply because you do not belong in a places like that.... But please give it a try.... Your schoolmates will have a laugh.. But actually getting enroled at university is a piece of cake...Itīs all about the results you get there.... Dumb Ass....


 

Answer by Le Banner
Submitted on 7/10/2004
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And to the next person who says anything about "jawlocks", I will and cannot tolerate listening to that crap... Listen here:
Itīs all about isometric strengh in the jawmuscles, isometric being the ability to hold a static musclecontraction over a long period og time. And that is what the pit is good at.

 

Answer by rims
Submitted on 7/11/2004
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Anyone ever heard of SDD. Prollly not. Rotti's are not FIGHTING dogs. And le banner pits are registered in AKC as staffie. Alright so eat a dik.  
le banner ur gay. Stop copying and pasting and try to make urself look smart. UR A FAG. can u afford anything. DO u go to univ. UMM NO. Is this ur life, on forums. U prolly dont hae any real friends do u. UR so COOL man. I wanna be jus like ya .U think u quite tough dont ya. Ill bench u asshole.where u from?? Dont open ur mouth when u cant back it up. From my point ur a low person with very low self esteem always trying to make fun of other people. Jaw locking?? LIke u know a sophisticated answer. U know its possible like how quick ur jaw is to lock on a penis. Ha! well jaw locking aint true. But ur sucha  a queer.
APBT is the best fighting dog period. The truth is it really is indvidual talent. Its like saying all black people jump higher than white people. It is true in a lot of cases but not always. But most people say APBT is the ultimate cuz they fight a lot more than other breeds most people dont have enough information or facts.

 

Answer by rims
Submitted on 7/11/2004
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zeus u are right bout those loser people like le banner that think they can think they can judge ones language by reading their responses on forums. Man le banner ur and ur SDD are the ULTIMATE LOSERS. sorry to break it down to u this way but ur running ur mouth somewhere where eventually it will be broken k. UR a dork and abused. GO to counsellor and seek help or ur doctor and tell them what u do all day. Fag.

 

Answer by BULLTERIER age11
Submitted on 7/11/2004
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Bullteriers

 

Answer by 21ANDGROWN
Submitted on 7/11/2004
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GLAD TO SEE BABS AINT RESPOND ZEUS,HOPEFULLY SHE JUST RAN INTO THAT CORNER. R.I.P BABS.
COULDNT COME UP WITH NOTHING ORIGINAL?
BABS WAS BUSTED ON MAKING THE BAND. ANYWAY,EVERYONE ON THIS BOARD SEEMS TO BE COOL,LETS KEEP IT LIKE THAT...BIG UP TO MY GIRL COLA FOR PUTTIN THE SMACK DOWN ON HATERS WE HEAR NO MORE FROM(PHILLYBOY AND BABS) WAY TO SHUT EM UP.
JUST CURIOUS HAS ANYONE SEEN THE MOVIE "MANS BEST FRIEND"?,.,,,WHAT KIND OF DOG WAS THAT?
ZEUS...LIKE THE MIGHTY GREEK GOD?

 

Answer by Shaman
Submitted on 7/12/2004
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Babs you had a good answer.  I believe it's all individual talent, but that on average pits are the best fighting dogs because it is what they were bred for.  All in all dog fighting is kind of cruel though.  I would never want to fight my dogs and I believe anyone who would probably has some issues, possibly in their past that they should seek help for.

 

Answer by 99killers
Submitted on 7/12/2004
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i need to see some akita fighting video before i believe they are vicious. any one got some video on akita fighting or anything on them?

 

Answer by 99killers
Submitted on 7/12/2004
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shaman you and babs can go cut each other with razor blades and then go dive into a 10ft deep pool full of hiv positve blood and piranhas with anchors tied around your neck.
if you hate dog fighting,then go on another board...theres no room for haters..bizzzztch.

 

Answer by TOTALRAGE
Submitted on 7/12/2004
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IF YOU READ THIS PAGE AT  :http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2002/02/09/dog-fighting.htm
IT SOUNDS THEY ARE REALLY INTO DOG FIGHTING THERE BUT I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE THE MONEY TO FEED THERE DOGS PROPERLY MUCH LESS GET A REAL FIGHTING DOG...I MAY BE WRONG .I HAVE NEVER BEEN THERE TO KNOW BUT IT DOES SOUND INTERESTING TO WATCH WHAT KIND OF DOGS THEY USE.

 

Answer by megapit
Submitted on 7/12/2004
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is thire such athing as a pitbullmastive?

 

Answer by D
Submitted on 7/13/2004
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NOT AS A PUREBREED.you could cross them,and call it what you like.pit bullxmastiff=ban dog.its a common cross.

 

Answer by maximus
Submitted on 7/13/2004
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yes there is such a thing called a pitbull-mastiff. its a form of bandogge. www.moloss.com has plentiful information on it.

 

Answer by PURERAGE
Submitted on 7/13/2004
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HEY THAT SOUNDS INTERESTING....NOW HOW IS THE BANDOGGE OR PITBULL-MASTIFF.I MEAN NOT WHAT YOU CAN READ AT MOLOSS.COM , WHAT I MEAN IS....STAMINA ,STRENGTH ,TEMPERAMENT AND GAMENESS.ANYONE KNOW? HAS ANYONE SEEN ONE FIGHT?

 

Answer by Cola
Submitted on 7/13/2004
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OKay- all this about fighting. and I have responded. You all know I have Akitas. and Don't get it twisted...I don't fight them. I want to see a bulldog fight ..a pitbull fight...and I don't mean Babs and philly against each other!. Does anyone know where I can see an actual video dog fight on the internet? Let me know.

 

Answer by d
Submitted on 7/13/2004
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badass dog but the gameness of the pit is somewhat compromised.so they may not be able to take the best pits.really its an old idea!that did'ntwork for pit fighting.

 

Answer by TOTALRAGE
Submitted on 7/13/2004
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HEY COLA , I HAVE LOOKED AND I CANT FIND A SINGLE SITE.THIS ONE http://www.touryukai.com
YOU WOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR.SO YES IF ANYONE KNOWS I HOPE THEY SHARE BUT I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD SINCE MOST ARE IN AMERICA AND IT IS ILEGAL THERE.
I HAVE A QUESTION....HOW ABOUT MIXBREEDING A NEO AND BULLTERRIER...OFCOURSE THE MALE WOULD HAVE TO BE THE BULLTERRIER....ANY THOUGH ON THAT MIX?

 

Answer by TOTALRAGE
Submitted on 7/13/2004
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I WOULD LIKE SOME SMART OPINIONS ON THIS.
NOW I HAVE READ ON THIS FORUM THAT AKITAS,ROTTS AND SOME OTHERS ARE NOT FIGHTING BREEDS..THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE GUARD DOGS....SO OK ...SAY THAT IS TRUE.THEN ON A DIFFERENT CATEGORY ....WHICH IS THE BEST FIGHTER OUT OF THE FOLLOWING AND CAN SOME OF YOU ACCORDING TO WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN CATEGORIZE THE FOLLOWING BREEDS:
ROTT,NEO MASTIFF,DOBERMAN,AKITA,DOGO,FILA.
THANKS GUYS I KNOW SOME OF YOU HAVE SEEN ENOUGH FIGHTS TO GIVE A FEAR JUDGEMENT.WHO WOULD WIN THIS GUARD DOG CATEGORY?MMMM

 

Answer by Firedragons
Submitted on 7/14/2004
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