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Answer by unknown
Submitted on 6/6/2004
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The best dog fighting matches I'd say would have to be same breed matches because they're pretty much equal in everything so it would be an even fight. I'm going to make this as simple as I can. This is jus how it is and there's nothing you can do about it. (All dogs are ranked as if they were GAME BRED) If the dogs are not game bred then the fights outcome can be unpredictable. Dogs that can fight... First Class - APBT - Tosa Inu Dogs that have little or no chance of beating the first class... Second Class - Dogo Argentino - American Bandogge - English Bull Terrier - American Staffordshire Terrier - American Bulldog - Presa Canario - Bully Kutta - Fila Brasileiro Dogs that have little or no chance of beating the second class... Third Class - Caucasian Ovtcharka - Neapolitan Mastiff - Spanish Bulldog - Cane Corso - Mallorquin Bulldog (Ca De Bou) - Gul Dong - Dogue De Bordeaux - Guatemalan Bull Terrier - Indian Bull Terrier - Staffordshire Bull Terrier And finally dogs that have no chance or little of beating the third class but can still hold their own... The fourth class - German Shepherd - Doberman - Rottweiler - Shar Pei - Alaskan Malamute - Bullmastiff - Wolf Hybrids - Chow Chow (yes, even the Chow Chow) - Most of the ovtcharkas - A few shepherds. - Akita Inu - Thai Ridgeback - Tibetan Mastiff, (and almost every other of mastiff origin that I didn't name, including the Boerboel and others) The Fourth Class can go on forever. It mainly consists of your most common, popular breeds that you think so highly of… Believe it or not, when it comes down to, pound for pound that's just how it is!

Answer by dog fighter
Submitted on 7/5/2004
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listen i know dogs ok i'vefought them i'vetrianed them i'vebreed them ok 3 dog breeds ok even though most everybody says pit bull nope wrong sure there good fighting dogs but do they listen when there fighting no you want a listener and a fighter #1 is english staffordshire bull terrier very smart strong dog ok #2 is pit bull has the will and strenth #3 chow chow smart strong ok theres your breeds now the match pit bull vs. doberman thats a fight i'veseen very interesting. chow vs. rott very fast fight alot of running. german shepard vs. english staffordshire bull terrier. ok if you haven't heard of a english staff look it up its like a mini pit bull but alot stronger jaw and its shorter but one hell of a fighter ok theres your dogs and your fights and i don't know you the person that keeps putting that bull sh!t list but listen up i don't care how you list a dog it don't matter you can train any and i mean any dog to fight i'vetrain poodles ok any dog can fight but its if the dogs got the mind of a killer. ok i'mdone if you don't believe anything i just wrote do it and find out l8r

Answer by Arabian
Submitted on 8/13/2004
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Hi everyone . ok , i had a TOSA 2 years ago , there very painless , as if they have no skin sense , i had akita , there very good looking and they do use there brain when play fights , and i had a pitbull .. TOSAS are very strong , you could ride on them , and there very friendly , when raised to be companions , even friendly with dogs , and there playfull , but when it comes to food or challenging , everyones Dead .. Akitas are good for Show off , girls would gather to pet them , but let me tell you somthing , you really see what they were breed for , they do have self confidence , and there very very very good brave guard dogs .. pitbulls are very knotty , My TOSA was 210 LBs and the PIT was 2 months old , and he would always go to eat from the big guys dish , and always get beaten , but never learn , as if they have nurves just for making problems , i have seen pits with families that were told that its how you rais your dog it becomes , or the dog is the development of it enviorment , ok , its true , but you can never change a breed habet , you never can learn an alligator to be a rotriever , NO WAY , so when pit bulls see small animals or dogs , whatever the hands that raised them is , its most likley to start playing the end it with a fight , specially when challenged , cause they have self confidence and they dont like anyone to not respect them because of there size , so they try to show that were small but we can do big things .. the guy who made these dogs come to life , is a genius , not for the fight machine he made , but for how he built the perfect tool for a certain use .. anyways i dont fight dogs , and never did , atleast its not what i do , and now , i am having a new dog , a DOGUE DE BORDEAUX , i love their looks and luxury coats , and i like them cause their calm and agile when needed , they have the strongest jaws cause of the muzzles structure , and they have the biggest heads in the world of dogs , i beleive they are gifted for gaurding .. but fighting isnt only about jawz , its complicated , for how long i had pitbulls and tosas , and for how long i watched them play , i still cant understand why are they the fighting dogs , American bulldogs are really strong and very rough , dogues are like warships , and terriers have the best stamina i ever seen , you never can put them on their backs , unbeleivable .. so my rate is : Tosas and pitbulls and terriers , when raised to fight , or when companions and meet any other breeds that were raised just like them .. at the end , i would hope everyone here dosnt proove them selfs with their dogs , if your shy , ur dog will most likley grow to be shy , if your outgoing and muscular and look agressive , the dog will scan you .. ok , sorry for the long post , excuse my bad english , and have a nice day ..

Answer by 44Mag
Submitted on 8/13/2004
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Nope, you're all wrong! Well most of you. Someone said that the American Pit was the best fighting dog and I agree. I had a neighbor from the Phillipines and he had about 5 pitbulls and he would tell me that in the Phillipines dog fighting was big and that the pitbull was king, he said that the Tosa would lose most of the times it got pitted against the pit. He showed me pictures of Tosas on the ground and pitbulls on top. I did not see one picture of a Tosa winning a match. At the time I had curiousity about a Rottweiller fighting against a pitbull, because I was sure that the Rottweiller would whoop the pitbull, but he said, "no way, a match between a pitbull and a rottweiller, tosa, dogo or chow is not fair, the pitbull even though smaller has the upper hand no matter what."

Answer by Davo_1
Submitted on 9/13/2004
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Some of you people have no idea what you are talking about. Not trying to be rude but the bull terrier was not a dog breed for fighting. It was breed for looks . It is still a very strong breed capable of fighting and defeating most dogs though i would back a staffordshire bull terrier, Akita almost all the mastiffs Dogue De bordeaux. Also a boxer is definatly not one of the top fighting dogs. There was this News story in australian papers and tv a lady was playing with her boxer of the leash at a park A staffy appeared the two dogs went for each other the staffy quickly grabbed the the boxer and pinned it to the ground. I myself owned a staffy which got into a fight with a doberman . The dob crashed through our fence savagly bit my dog on the back leg Rocky quickly turned grabbed the Dob by the throat and pinned it i screamed at him and he let go . he had complete control he only just broke the skin on the dobe. Whick is a sign of true gameness . Though he did need stitches on his leg . It was the most impressive thing ive seen. The dob is a great personal protection dog. It would rather die then let its owners get into harm but its not one of the best dog on dog fighters. Breeds Like the Staffordshire bull terrier, Akita, Dog de bordeaux, APBT, Dogo Argentino, Tosa are all capable fighters there are many other yo cant reall but it down to three. By the way dog fighting in my opinion is evil. People should be locked up forever for frocing these poor dogs into this barbaric sport.

Answer by da
Submitted on 9/13/2004
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It appears two arguments are occuring. Dog fight encounters and pit fights. Dog fight encounters: two dogs that get into a fight which last no more than 5 minutes. In this case a larger more powerful breed will appear to have the advantage. The larger dog will dominate or win. However, a game bred fighter will excel in the pit. The fight could last 30 to 45 minutes. The medium sized dog (60lbs) has the advantage. So I think people with the bullmastiffs dogs and larger breeds may have a chance when dogs are not pit fought and the match does not exceed 5 minutes. The only dog that is large and appears to have gameness is the TOSA, but they fight those dogs differently, more like wrestiling.

Answer by hiram van rossem (netherlands)
Submitted on 9/29/2004
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The problem of telling what the 3 best fighting dogbreeds are is that dogfighting is illigal. And because it's illigal you can't set up a huge investigation by training and systematicly matching diffrent dog breeds in diffrent sexes ,traint in diffrent ways,game,gamebred and other factors that influence a fighting dog and a dog fight. so basicly you can't say much about what are the best 3 fighting dog breeds. The only thing that can be said is that this huge investigation will proberbly never be carried out. Anyway i THINK that the apbt and the tosa inu are the best fighting dogs because these dogs still have the talent for dogfighting instead of other dogbreeds that were used for dogfighting in the past (like the dogo canario,mallorquim bulldog,shar-pei,old english bulldog). anyone who disagree with me send an e-mail to 831211541@hasdb.nl

Answer by COTTI
Submitted on 10/19/2004
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I DONT REMEMBER EXACTLY HOW I CAME ACROSS THIS PAGE BUT I FEEL IT IS ONLY RIGHT TO SET ALL OF YOU STRAIGHT. POUND FOR POUND THEIR IS NO BETTER FIGHTING DOG IN THE WORLD BETTER THAN THE AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER.THE ONLY THING THAT COMES CLOSE IS THE TOSA INU. YES PITS HAVE BEEN BEATEN AND ANY DOG CAN BE BEATEN ON THE RIGHT DAY. BUT IF YOU WANT TO COMPARE ROTTS AND DOBERMANS OR EVEN WOLVES YOU ARE COMPARING APPLES AND ORANGES. PITS HAVE BEEN BRED FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE TO KILL OPPOSING DOGS AND THAT IS ALL,NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS. WOLVES RELY ON A PACK AND HAVE EVOLVED TO SURVIVE BY HUNTING DEER AND OTHER PREY NOT DOGS. YOU ARE ALL CONFUSED AND THIS WHOLE PAGE WAS RATHER AMUSING!

Answer by KING KONG
Submitted on 10/22/2004
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TIMBER WOLVES ARE THE WORLDS BEST LAND PREDITORS.THEY HUNT AND KILL MORE BIGGER, STRONGER,FURRIER, AND FASTER ANIMAL'S. THEN THAT OF TIGERS, LIONS,BEARS,HEYENA'S LEPOARDS,JAGAURS, CHEETHAS OR ANY ANIIMAL YOU CAN THINK OF. THEY ALSO HAVE BEST STAMINIA AND SPPEED OF ANY CARNIVORES. AND THEY HUNT IN THE IN FREEZING TEMPERTURES IN THICK SNOW.CHASING AFTER PREY UP AND DOWN HILL. DID YOU KNOW THAT IT TAKES MORE WEIGHT OF LIONS TO TAKE SMALLER PREY DOWN THEN IT DOES WITH TIMBER WOLVES, IT'S TRUE. YOU CAN FIND THIS OUT YOURSELF BY COMPARING 2 WHAT TIMBER WOLVES GENERALLY HUNT 2 WHAT LIONS USUALLY HUNT. TIGER'S MOSTLY HUNT SMALL DEER RELYING ON STELPH 2 CATCH THERE PREY OFF GAURD.THEY ALSO HAVE BEEN KNOWN 2 KILL CROCIDILES. BUT THESE KILLINGS WERE OUT OF THE WATER WHICH MAKES A HUGE DIFFERNECE. ONE MAN CAN SUBDUE A CROCIDLE OUT OF WATER WITH ROPE AND TAPE.WOLVES ON THE OTHER HAND DONT USE THE AMBUSH SNEAKY TACTICS. LIKE BIG CATS. CUZ THEY HAVE WAY MORE STAMINIA AND COURAGE. THERE MORE BOLD. THEY DONT FEEL THE NEED 2 HIDE THERE PRESIENCE. THEY OUT RUN AND WEAR DOWN THERE PREY.

Answer by KING KONG
Submitted on 10/22/2004
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Akita's R better fighters then Pit's Akita's R so underrated it's sicking. A good big bone 140lb Akita vs 65 lb red-nose would be a good match up. The Akita wins, I'll tell you why? first the Akita's neck is well protected with a thick layer of fur,loose skin,and thick layer of fat. With a whole lot of muscle. In basic words the Akita neck is built to withstand more damage. The second reason is Akita's are munch more flexible because they are not just dogs they have bear and cat in them. They clean themselves just like a cat everyday. They have cat like feet. I was a Pit bull fan and I still em. But I changed my ways. I had to learn the hard way. 10 Year's ago I had a 60'lb rednose male Pitbull."Duke" Duke was a fighting machine. A neighbor had in Akita,"Bear" this Akita was awesome,It walked like Lion but had a head of a bear. First time I saw this dog when he was full grown, what a impressive site. Back in my head I knew that Duke couldnt stand up to Bear. but I was in denial. Untill one day "Duke" broke loose from his fence chewing away the wooden slack on the door. Duke then must of approached the Akita who was on a chain inside fence.I don't know exactly what happened because nobody was around to actually to see. I was at work. But what I do know is when I got home Duke wasn't inside our fence. So I want thru the neighborhood looking for him. I want everywhere I called the animal patrol. I want to the local Dog Pounds. Finally a couple days later while stapling up a sign by a Telephone by the neighbors house who had the Akita. I stopped to look thru the fence to see Bear. I was devisted to see "Duke" lying on the ground and his body was being eaten by Bear. Yes he was being eaten literally. The owner's of the Akita want to a family funeral out of state.Instead of living bear at a Kennel they left him inside the fence on chain. So when "Duke" got loose he must of jumped over they're-fence"Duke" using blind furry must of charged "Bear" must put the smack down on Duke and the killed him and was eating him for a couple of days. Duke's back leg's were about ninety percent consumed. It was a gruesome sight after that I had to get In Akita. Comparing Akita's to Pit's it isn't close when you get the best of the best. If you take the average Pit bull and put it against the average Akita sure the Pit will be more scrappier, and probably win the fight, and will be more willing to want to get into fights. But if you take the best Pit bull and put him against the best the Akita, The Akita will win every time. They're are two kinds of Akita's The Japanese Akita's, and the American Big Bone Akita which most Akita's owner's don't even have.It has been crossbreed in with Tosa in,Mastiff,St. Bernard,and German Shepard. This Akita is like a giant Pit bull with alot more fur. This dog is a tenacious fighter with great strength & speed. They fight using every weapon or advantage in their arsenal. They can pin a dog to the ground under a few seconds. They can every throw some punches which they got because they have Bear and Feline in them. These Akitas they wont back down from any challenge they will fight to the death and. win. I have owned Pit bulls all my life and have read hundreds of books about them but when "Duke" was killed by "Bear" My whole world was shook up. I begin to search the globe for best fighting dog so I came across alot of breeds most of them just seem to be just water down Pitbulls. By rasing Pit's and Akitas together. Akitas when it come down to cruch time they will eat them for lunch time

Answer by Bigg_doggs
Submitted on 10/31/2004
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Well, first of all i own 2 cane corso's1 male and 1 female the male weighs in at 90 pounds and the female at a whopping 155 lbs, the male is a lighter derivative of the breed but not to be thought of as small. He easily could take down a 160 pound american bulldog who he lived with for over 12 month period (who he had battled a few times without our consent!)The american Bulldog was also very violent with people who he knew unlike the cane who will protect it's owner till death. One thing i find funny is how these people seem interested in how which dog will beat what breed when it all depends on the fight in the dog not in the breed. As for dog fighting i think you should grow the @#ck up and try going against my dog, as in man vs dog, i'dlike to see someone try to walk in my house without my consent lol good luck!!! as for dogfights you know where i stand its stupid an destroysgood animals that otherwise would live long happy lives protecting your home and family.

Answer by GameBred1
Submitted on 11/6/2004
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First off let me set the record.. Many of you on this sight have no idea what you are talking about!!! Lets start by ranking. First understanding that their can be no GAME BRED dog out side of a GAME DOG!!! A true ( NOT STREET!!) Pit Bull Terrier is in a class of it's own..BOTTOM LINE. NOW, WITH IN that class do you begin to weed out the non game bred from the game bred!!! There is not another dog on the face of this earth that can do what a Pit Bull can do. 45 pound Pit Kills 160 Tosa... Look at UFC, and watch those little guy smash some of the big ones... size means NOTHING!!! Do you think that a Tosa at 160 pounds would kill a 320 pound dog if there was one? Game bred a simply a dog that won't quite unto death. eyes plucked out.. ears torn off.. guts hanging out etc... name me any other breed that has BALLS THAT SIZE. I have never seen a Tosa fight in person. I will bet you thousands that pound on pound one of my American Bulldogs would make short of any Tosa out there... 100 pounds on 100.. and so on.. I know of a 135 pound American Bull dog that moves like he's 80.. that would make short work of a Tosa 160 Pounds... Can your Tosa ride 1hr or longer? I know men in Georgia that have fought their American Bulldogs with Tosa.. and won.. I hear a Presa can take an american bulldog.. pound on pound .. I don't think so... My bro breeds the REAL AMERICAN PIT BULLS...GAME BRED..BELEVE YOU ME...THERE IS NOTHING LIKE IT....NOTHING.. SO I SAY ..BEING THAT ALL THESE DOGS HAVE GUTS ENOUGH TO STAY IN A FIGHT.. YOU FIND CURRS IN EVERY BREED..THE LIST IS AS FOLLOWS.. TOP THREE (A GOOD) AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER AMERICAN BULLDOG PRESA TOSA BULL TERRIER I THINK THAT THE BULL TERRIER FROM ENGLAND WITH OUT THE GAME BRED OUT OF HIM WOULD BE SECOND... THE OTHER RAKINGS ARE SO DUE TO THE EXSTREME SIZE ADVANTAGE... POUND FOR POUND AMERICAN PIT BULL AND BULL TERRIER.. SILENCE!!!!

Answer by stryker
Submitted on 11/10/2004
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All of you have legitimate points, but i'vefought dogs in the southern region of the us for over 25 years now and have not ran across a more driven dog killer than the Cane Corso. there are myths about this breed and its origins but i tell you first hand after loosing numerous pits and a presa i have made the switch. there is no dog alive with the combination of strength, intelligence and prey-drive to match this fighter. my current champion has'ntlost in almost two years and is almost ready for retirement. i tell you, this dog not only overpowers dogs but has the wit and agility of a boxer and the strength of a molloser. they are literally surgeons and separate other dogs body parts ie... jaw removals and neck breaks. this is your champion.

Answer by Siew Mang
Submitted on 11/16/2004
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well...first of all...i think in fighting it's not depend on the breed...even though yes, certain breeds like pitbull, tosa, mastiffs and akitas are famous for dog fighting...but it depends on the dog itself...yes, a wolf hybrid might has been crushed by a pitbull...but can u guarantee the same pitbull can take other or all wolf hybrids in this world...don't think so...same goes to tosa, fila or any other fighter dogs...and for your information a dog to the maximum weights only to 50 kg or maybe a little more...what great damage can a mere 50 kg done?? it's just baby-cub for those real beast like 150 kg lion or reaching 200 kg tiger... so end of it...dogs are not for fighting...they are not beast...they are human companion...they don't even deserve to be called fighter...every dogs have their own specialty and talent...and they are not certainly born to fight but to assist human

Answer by Rhody Ridgeback
Submitted on 11/28/2004
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Ok people, I don't condone dog fighting but all the idiots that think APBT is not the top fighting dogs are people I'd like to bet with. Think about it. If they were'ntthe most capable dog in the ring do think people would bet thousands of dollars on them? As for the Wolf taking a APBT? That's a tough one. I agree with the statement that the wolf would take flight and the pit would probably kill it in a cage match. And I believe that the question should be rephrased. "What is the toughest dog in a cage match?" By far the APBT. Yet I'd like to see that ABPT bay an African Lion. Don't think so. It would be a snack. Answer to your question: APBT

Answer by John Stamos
Submitted on 11/30/2004
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To people that say that a Doberman would be destroyed by any Pit Bull: I have seen a Doberman defend its owner from a stray Pit Bull. A few years ago I was walking my dog, which is a Chocolate Lab, when I noticed a stray dog running around the park near my house. It approached me, and seemed friendly enough, and actually got along with my dog. I gave it a pat on the head and kept on walking. A minute or so later I walked by a guy walking his Doberman. Shortly after that I heard yelling, and the man with the Doberman was swatting at the Pit Bull, trying to get it to leave him alone. The Pit Bull ended up attacking the man, pulling on the man's arm. The Doberman entered this, initially jumping on the Pit Bull. The Pit Bull started fighting the Doberman, and the family Doberman ended up greatly getting the better of the domesticated Pit Bull, as the Pit Bull ran off pretty well injured (there were visible lacerations from a distance), and the Doberman only had a couple of bite marks on the back of its neck. The owner of the Doberman ended up going to the hospital and getting a massive amount of stitches in his arm, and the Pit Bull was eventually caught and euthanised.

Answer by thenonething
Submitted on 12/14/2004
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very interesting question......i been associated with many a dog match.....and it is still a hard question...well size does matter in a plus and negative....a big dog can use that size to over power the smaller one but on the other hand the smaller maybe able to wind the larger one... pits dont have a very large incisors so they dont puncture like a wolf or similiar bite would...which can cause damamge to organs...but they have a intict to bite and hold once it gets a good grip... but as seen in the late 1800s and early 1900s when Colby and Tudor....were scratching their pits all over the states...a well breed and trained Pit will most likly bang out most dogs...now a old english staff against a pit would be something to see...some say they are oringinal stock or blood of todays APBT....I have never seen one in person and heard they are almost extinct because of the european ban on them....so if some one has one please post a pict and contact on this site... But really training and gameness is what matters...If he can fight and if he has the will to fight...so a game poodle can beat a cure Pit or what have you...But any dog man knows a pit is the dog of choice...but the only way to really tell is to let them scratch....everything else is just talk

Answer by dobermann
Submitted on 12/16/2004
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i know that the tosa is the best and the powerfull dog in the hole world.and difenetly the APBT will lose in 6 min with a tosa.the - English Bull Terrier - American Staffordshire Terrier - American Bulldog should NOT be in the Second Class i my self have dobermann and he is 9 months old he has kick the bull terrier and the american staff that is why they should stay well away from the Second Class and the dobermann is the dog that is used in germany for attacking. dobermann is a very power full dog which is very vicious and will kill an human well my dobermann will do that i am 150% sure of this marc plz read some book's and talk plz. if it will be scared it will not be a guardog OK. so move them plz and APBT from the first class plz. 1.tosa 2.Dogo Argentino 3.Dogue De Bordeaux 4.Presa Canario 5.Bully Kutta 6.Fila Brasileiro 7.Neapolitan Mastiff 8.Doberman dont even say it 9. APBT

Answer by Snoop Doggy-Killar-dog
Submitted on 12/22/2004
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Hey guys am not here to lecture but if you all love your dogs why would let them get harmed in dog fights. I've had Dobermans in the past and have a Rottweiller now, but always try to avoid fights even with small dogs. Anyway back to wot one of u guys said, The thought of seeing a Boxer in the same list as Pit bulls is a joke, in my opinion a boxer would be hard pressed to take on a Giant Poodle. They are too small and far too weak and feable to even be considered. If you want to know about a breed that can take down a Tiger look up White Dog they are wild dogs, that hunt in packs and have been known to take down Tigers although they have left behind a few of their collegues bodies that were unsuccessful in the battle. But come on dogs taking on a TIGER now thats something right!!

Answer by Dog-Man
Submitted on 12/29/2004
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it is apparent that most people here does not even know what they are talking about. imma have to disagree with the person who made up the so called list of top fighting dogs. yea the pitbull and the tosa are in the 1st class but u are forgetting one. the akita belongs in the first class also. not in the 4th. lets get one thing straight. i dont care what anyone says, the akita will hand the apbt its ass. i'veseen it with my own eyes, plus i had pitbull owners come up to me and say the akita will beat their pitbull, and i have heard other people say the same thing, including a fight between a 140lb akita against a pitbull. the akita killed the pitbull in the fight. another guy i ran into fights his pitbull and even he said he would not mess with the akita, he said he have seen akitas literally bite holes into other dogs. remember the akita was originally bred for bear hunting and later on used for fighting. they werent always as big. they got their size from, guess what the mighty tosa. the japanese have crossed the akita with the tosa to increase its fighting ability. the result was a dog of imposing size. thats one reason y the akita is a good fighter and here's one fight i can tell u about. some idiot sent his pitbull/bulldog cross to fight my akita. the dog is 117 lbs. my akita made him quit twice in the fight. the first time the dog quit, the guy seemed to have gotten mad so he sent the dog again, and after it was all over, my akita again made the dog quit. the akita gave him one good bite right on its side and the dog have had enough, i pulled my akita off when he then tried to mount the loser, a sign of dominance. and just a couple of months ago, another person i ran into a park was telling me of a fight he had seen b4 between a akita and a pitbull, he said the akita destroyed the pit. one of the pitbull eye's was hanging out of its socket. and both of the parents of my akita have beaten pitbulls. so i rest my case. y'all can have y'all opinions but i just told y'all facts. here is another fact. me and few friends we train dogs our spare time. its mostly pitbulls in the group all though we have a bull terrier in the group and i just gotten a fila. and sometimes we work out with this guy who has 4 cane corsos. one of the hardest biters is my friend's 85 lb pitbull. he probably heavier now, but anyway when he hits the arm, he hits it hard. when my akita hits the arm when he is really mad, he actually bit the arm harder then any of the pitbulls i worked with. so here is my unoffical list of the top fighting breeds/ 1) tosa 2) akita 3) presa canario 4) abpt ( sorry, the abpt can be beaten) 5) american bulldog 6) dogo argentino 7) american staff 8) german shepherd ( i knew one that beaten a wolf in protecting its owner, he could beat most pits i know) 9)fila basilerio 10) cane corso ( i'veheard some good things bout them too.) so take it however y'all wanna take it, the tosa and the akita will hand a pitbull its ass. period. not to sure bout the akita vs a tosa. i'veonly heard of one fight between a 125 lb akita vs a 128 lb tosa with the tosa killing the akita but it died 2 days later. the akita put up a fight. but thas only one example. need more b4 i can make a judgement. but i'veheard of many akita/apbt confrontations with the akita winning all but one.

Answer by Vex
Submitted on 1/3/2005
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Honestly the the top 2 fighting dogs in the world would be either a Tosa Inu which was distinctivly designed to be dog agressive and fighting with a lot of stamina, but the APBT also has some of the same traits but differs in size. When the apbt was pitted against the tosa at a japanese grand chapion tournament the tosa almost always won 7 out of 10 matches came out with the tosa winnning. And there actually is another fighting breed arising not on genetics but trained in its own league, this dog is the Rottweiler, most do not beleive this breed to be a fighting but with search on the net you will stumble across the league, and the rott can actually put up a good fight when well trained due to size strenght and natural agressivness.

Answer by Adrian
Submitted on 1/17/2005
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Iwe seen a fight between two males of Dogo argentino and a fully grown rott. These guys wanted to test their dogs, but the outcome was not TO funny. Their size was about equal and the fight started the same.Soon the Dogo got moore intense and powerful. the rott was grabbed by the side of the neck and the Dogo just wouldnt let go, that dog was furious. The owners was hitting and pulling him, trying to get him loose, make him stop, but for no use. The rott had given up long time ago and fight had gone out of hand, and the owner had no control what so ever. At last, Cold water solved the drama and the dogo finally let losse and were grabbed away by the backlegs. I think the scene was terrible and the rott lost much blood, and later had to be put away cause the event haunted him and made him unstabile. What comes to my mind is the damage a breed like this Dogo could cause a human been, not a funny thought. This event took place some 2 years ago. The guy owning the dogo thougt it was fun having a tough dog, today when he is more mature, the dog is as furious, causing him a lot of headake almost killing a german shepard when he was confronted round a corner with a loose leache. That aint funny, sorry for my bad spelling, this event just came to mind while u appears to enjoy this, SICK.

Answer by maniac
Submitted on 1/18/2005
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After readin every bodys opion its real clear who knows what there talking about and who dont.I was raised around dog fighters and i myself am not into it.(to each there own)i KNOW ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT A TOUGH DOG IS A TOUGH DOG WIN LOSE OR DRAW. BUT A REAL DOG FIGHTER KNOWS THE BULLY BREEDS RULE INPATICULAR THE PIT BULL. I MY SELF LOVE GERMAN SHEPARDS BUT UNLIKE SOME I AM NO FOOL I NO MY BREED IS FAR FROM THE BEST FIGHTER. KEEP IN MIND THOUGH THERE ARE 400 SOME ODD BREEDS OF DOGS AND MY BREED IS KNOW PUSH OVER!THEY EASILY RANK IN THE TOP 20. AND WHEN PUSH COMES TO SHUVE MY DOG WOOP ANY DOG THAT WAS A THREAT TO HIM BECAUSE I WOULD SHOOT IT BECAUSE THATS THE GREAT PART OF OWNING A DOG, BIENG BEST FRIENDS AND IT BIENG YOURS, YOUR FAMILY, HE WATCHES YOUR BACK YOU WATCH HIS! ALL AND ALL ANY SMART PERSON KNOWS WHEN IT COMES TO ALL AROUND DURABILITY JUMPING,RUNNING,GUARDING,INTTELEGENCE,AND COURAGE THE GERMAN SHEPARD IS A SUPER DOG HE HAS LITTERLLY BEEN TRAINED TO JUST ABOUT EVERY THING MAN HAS TRAINED DOGS TO, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF BIENG THE BEST FIGHTER FOR YOU PITTBULL FANS KEEP IN MIND 9 OUT OF 10 TEN TIMES A PITT WILL WIN AGAINST JUST ABOUT ANY BREED THATS NO JOKE I UNDERSTAND BUT WHEN A LOYAL DOG IS FIGHTING FOR A CAUSE LIKE DEFINDING HIS FAMILY HE WILL ALWAYS FIGHT TO THE DEATH THATS A TOUGH DOG.IT ONLY TAKES A TOOTH TO THE jUGULAR fOR A FIGHT TO BE OVER DESPITE THE BREED.

Answer by maddog
Submitted on 2/11/2005
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Hi, I want to set the record straight, there is no good dog matches, but if you want the truth about the toughest dog here it is. The timber wolf would not win very many matches head on they are to smart to fight. They will not risk hurting themselves over a victory fight, they will walk away they are pack hunters they need the pack. The best domestic fighting dog would have to be as follows in order toughest to weakest: 1 - APBT 2 - dogo 3 - tosa 4 - american bulldog 5 - filas 6 - amstaff 7 - american bandogge 10 - english bull terrier 11 - douge de bordeaux Those are the top 11 dog breed most likely to be the toughest, strongest fighting dogs. Mind you any dog could get beat at anytime by a third rank breed.

Answer by YOU ARE ALL INTERNET WARRIORS
Submitted on 2/15/2005
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Are you all 18 year old children? who the hell would be so cruel to put a wolf or any wild dog in a pit with a pitbull. Of course the wild animal would flee they only fight for food or teritory if they have a chance. It is common knowlage among professional dogmen from around the world that the APBT is the only dog for the pit ( if there was something better they would use it)except with the exception being the Tosa in Japan & that is only because of there strange rules but the pitbull is stating to take over there as well. It is even known within law enforcement that the pitbull is the only dog used by the guys that know what they are doing .and they are not interested in street corner thugs fighting there CUR breeds yes that is what real dogmen call your dogs because they ARE NOT fighting breeds.The police will just report you to Animal welfare because it is obvious you do not know what you are doing & have NO connection to the guys they are really after.. ALL THE DOGS IN ALL THE POSTS ABOVE ARE NOT FIGHTING BREEDS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE APBT & TOSA & IF I SAW YOU FIGHTING ONE OF YOUR DOGS AGAIST A PIT I WOULD FIRST KICK YOUR BEHIND THEN DRAG YOU TO THE POLICE STATION WHERE THEY WOULD CALL YOUR PARENTS. if any of you are adults there must be something wrong with you to blindly brag about something you know nothing about & you posting on here is like the blind leading the blind. ANYONE FIGHTING DOGS SHOULD GO TO JAIL

Answer by delta boy
Submitted on 2/22/2005
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well, everyone is entitled to their own opinion ,but lets not leave out the american bulldog.I have 2yr old 125lb male.I also had an 75lb pit that has taken out every oponent that has ever crossed him.Well, if you noticed I said I had a 75lb pit.One day my pit bull decided that he wanted to commit suicide.So he broke out of his pen and challenge old ROCKY(the bulldog)by the time I heard all the commotion I ran outside, I was a bit too late.That american bulldog was finishing him off.He had killed my 3yr old game bred pit in less than 10 minutes.It is amazing to see the power and agility of an american bulldog.A pitbull does not stand a chance with my bulldog, he would'ntbe able to withstand the damage for the first 5 minutes.American bulldogs are definately the ultimate all around breed.

Answer by Jamal
Submitted on 2/28/2005
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I've got a boxer.. I'm not claiming that a boxer is the #1 Fighting dog.. as i don't use my dog for fighting. I just know that the Boxer's musculatur is teriffic, and very special compared to other dogs. And the wide and powerfull jawline made to hold the prayer in a tight cuff. F*ck all of that i guess you all know more about dogs than i Do.. i just wanna say that my dog was attacked by an Rottweiler when i was walking it in the park.. the Rottweiler just snoosed around.. and suddently it bit my dog in the neck,.. and dragged it around.. Somehow my dog managed to get back on its feet while being held down. And it just went directly to the ROtts throat. And as soon as the rott started to barff, and "Beg" for my dog to stop it released it touch. And the rott ran away. I was really amazed.. about how clever my boxer was.. - Quote my dog has NO SIGNS of violence either way.

Answer by dof fight trainer
Submitted on 3/4/2005
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I've been reading these old post and decided to comment. I read alot of my dog could beat your dog and things like that here. But let us realize that most of these dog fights discussed here are experiences of peoples pets. House pets and fighting dogs are two different things. Having been involed in dog fighting I would have to say if I had to rank a breed of dog The APBT would clearly be my first choice. I've seen these dogs in action they have a reputation for a reason. Another dog I would give respect to is the tosa a tosa with ranks such as ozeki or yokozuna in japan could kill an average APBT fighter. But If I had to choose between the two breeds champion vs. champion I'd have to go with the pit but the weight of the tosa would be a major concern for me. Another dog not mention as much here is the korean jingo dog this is a very aggressive dog given time with this dog I guarentee you the pit would get a fight coming to him. the Presa Canario these dogs mauled a lady in california can be a vicious fighter but falls short of the pit and tosa and some others. Don't bother with the american bulldog this dog can be vicious but they give up to easy. Filas are good guard dogs. Akitas aggressive dog but who would want to fight him against a fighting pit? forget it Dogue de Bordeaux why? he better be at the top of his fighting game and on steriods lol to stand a chance agaisnt a pit or tosa. the dogo same as the bordeaux. These are my opinions about it and people can disagree with me but the pit is ranked 1 in my book on top fightin breeds from my experience in the game.

Answer by billy
Submitted on 3/21/2005
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everyone is allowed their own opion but please dont go to the effort of a lengthly reply if you dont really know what your saying. This is a shot at the people who just have not exp real dog fights. First the question asked was what is the top 3 fight dogs that in it self can be confusing do you mean the top 3 preferred dogs or is there 3 dogs that beat all else, cause the latter statement is impossible to say. There definitely are preffered dogs by certain fight trainers etc but to able to say there is 4 classes is rubbish my bothers pit has flogged rotties then got rolled by dogs not even on your list, my akita rolled a english bulli as if it were nothing. Breed has alot to do with it but so does gameness. in japan they use alot of tosa or apbt but then in mexico you will find alot of x or a large range of all breeds, USA I have read alot about different breeds making comebacks for a while there, there was a pref for rotties or presa's....I have seen mental rotties roll apbt and akitas, I would never say that one breed will always beat another. Come game day a game dog will break a week willed one within seconds with its charge or pure will. If you have a dog as a pet he may be tough but I have had pro trainers tell me that once you turn them into a pet they begin to lose gameness, hard dogs are trained hard always... so your original Q,what is the top 3 fight dogs? the one that so angry that he bleeds from the mouth before entering the fight, if you want a tough dog buy any on the list and train them hard if you want a hard fight dog go to mexico or somewhere like japan where their is alot of this going on and shop around but dont expect it to socialize with anyone or anything, cause it has only one thing on its mind!!!!!!!!!!!!! my thoughts based on what i have seen. remember if you want advice on dogs ask for replies form people who have seen or put dogs in fights and videos dont count......

Answer by dvm.man
Submitted on 3/24/2005
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after training dogs for police, military, and the fbi, i have had much contact with the above mentioned dogs in all aspects of the "dog fight" question. a 130-150 lb tosa or a 70-85 lb game bred apbt are the kings of the castle. a fila has the power to take on any and i mean any dog in the world but the tosa and apbt have the stamina and pain threshhold to over come a tosa. the american b.d and all other form of bulldog have immense power and drive to initiate the attack but run short in stamina. a ring fight or street fight are 2 separate ideas.... if any of these fighting dogs came into my yard with my kids out...my 92lb boxer would go into a mode i call "one time" he has one time to get this dog out of here or my kids are at risk..this is driven from bonding companionship and a love for people not hatred for other dogs. i gaurantee in his yard not one dog could take him because he already put his life on the table for "one time"

Answer by bulldog
Submitted on 3/26/2005
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There is alot of misinformed fools here. Sure there are some tough dogs of every fighting breed that have been able to beat another breed at one time or another. That does not mean that this can be applied to the aggregate of dogs. The truth is that pound for pound the American Pit Bull Terrier is the king of Dog Fighting. The Tosa is a great rival but tosa benefits from a huge size difference over the apbt. If the American Bulldog or the English Mastiff felt that they were protecting their owner, I'm afraid no dog or wolf would stand for long, but these two fight for different reasons. they fight to protect not for the hell of it like the pit and tosa. Wolves ain't . American Bulldogs have a known history of killing the alpha male and disrutping the whole pack to protect sheep and other livestock. Whoever said they can bite like a bear is full of . Thats like saying the Olsen twins hit like Mike Tyson. Wolves are skinny jawed pack HUNTERS THAT CANT DO ON THEIR OWN. there ARE WAY TOO MANY BREEDS THAT CAN TAKE A LONE WOLF.Rotts, Shepards AND Doberman ARE GOOD GUARD DOGS BUT WEAR OUT TO QUICK TO BE GOOD DOG FIGHTERS. I don't own a dog , so I am giving my unbiased opinion based off real fight data, not biased personal experience. Wolves can eat pit , and will if they try to fight one.

Answer by bulldog
Submitted on 3/26/2005
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There is alot of misinformed fools here. Sure there are some tough dogs of every fighting breed that have been able to beat another breed at one time or another. That does not mean that this can be applied to the aggregate of dogs. The truth is that pound for pound the American Pit Bull Terrier is the king of Dog Fighting. The Tosa is a great rival but tosa benefits from a huge size difference over the apbt. If the American Bulldog or the English Mastiff felt that they were protecting their owner, I'm afraid no dog or wolf would stand for long, but these two fight for different reasons. they fight to protect not for the hell of it like the pit and tosa. Wolves ain't . American Bulldogs have a known history of killing the alpha male and disrutping the whole pack to protect sheep and other livestock. Whoever said they can bite like a bear is full of . Thats like saying the Olsen TRwins hit like Mike Tyson. Wolves are skinny jawed paCK HUNTERS THAT CANT DO ON THEIR OWN. tHERE ARE WAY TOO MANY BREEDS THAT CAN TAKE A LONE WOLF.rOTTTS, sHEPERDS AND dOBERMAN ARE GOOD GUARD DOGS BUT WEAR OUT TO QUICK TO BE GOOD DOG FIGHTERS. I don't own a dog , so I am giving my unbiased opinion based off real fight data, not biased personal experience. Wolves can eat pit , and will if they try to fight one.

Answer by breeder and trainer
Submitted on 4/24/2005
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i have trained all kinds of dogs and fought all kinds of dogs. first, apbt is the godfather of all dogs, 2nd tosa, 3rd rottweiler, 4th dogo, 5th american staff, 6th doberman, 7th boxer, 8th german shepard. these dogs are too strong and they cant be beaten by any other dogs because i have bred and fought all of themm. i started breeding and fighting dogs when i was 18 now im 38 so i know. one other dog that is quite a fighter is an english but the thing about the english is that it is dumb and it cant last in the ring withe top 8 dogs. ive seen a pitt take on 3 englishes obiously it lost but it took more den 3 minutes and one of dem got killed and the other 2 were seriously injured and the pitt stilled lived. apbt r the godfather of all dogs.

Answer by shano
Submitted on 5/19/2005
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u must have a sad life yall, i knopw more bout dogs than u all and ima gonna say, the most powerful pound by pound fighter is the pit bull terrier and the doberman pinscher, a doberman wasnt originally produced for fighting it was developed as an guard and attck dog, but it was bred from other fighting breeds and was developed for the only perpose of attacking and fighting and is indomitable in most cases, its just the fact and is why they are continuosly used in the dog world to portray the meanest and baddest of the dogs, dobermans are the fastest of the so called guard/fighting group, among the strongest, and there bite pressure and aggrestion is 2nd 2 none...its not to say they are not ever beten but im gonna say u underestimate the doberman and you are very wrong doing so!!!

Answer by solid
Submitted on 5/26/2005
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u don't no about dog fights its all about shar pei, doberman, rotty and a staffy.shar pei because its rinckles wen a pit bit my aunty's shar pei it span hits head and the pit couldn't hold it and the shar pei just bit it on its neck and my aunt had to pinch his tail in her hand.i like dobermans 4 size and how big them paws r.i like rottys 4 size and power.i like staffy 4 size even tho they ain't that big thy put up a good fight trust. the best fights would b doberman vs rotty shar pei vs staff

Answer by solid
Submitted on 5/26/2005
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u dont no about dog fights its all about shar pei, doberman, rotty and a staffy.shar pei because its rinckles wen a pit bit my auntys shar pei it span hits head and the pit couldnt hold it and the shar pei just bit it on its neck and my aunt had to pinch his tail in her hand.i like dobermans 4 size and how big them paws r.i like rottys 4 size and power.i like staffy 4 size even tho they aint that big thy put up a good fight trust. the best fights would b doberman vs rotty shar pei vs staff

Answer by DarkPoe
Submitted on 6/2/2005
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Some of you all dont know Crap. You know I raise AmStaff, I have breed others as Well. Including Jack Russel. As for Dog Fight I dont Breed to fight. But I have seen some that just Happen. I saw a Jack Russel vs Pitbull and what it fight. Jack RUssel Won. Pit could never get a hold of that jack. I seen 1 chow kill 3 dobermans. Its not all about the weigh of the dog, just cause one has a bigger dog than another you think it has the advantage. I had a Mix CHow Timber WOlf and it whooped on every dog that came into my yard. Its all on the Will of the DOg. What training, Train a DOg to Think, and not just go in and Bite, and you see the diffrence. I seen my Amstaff beat fighting pits like nothing, and she is not breed to fight. Neighbors cant keep the dog in the yard. And it came over for a fight, and it got one. I seen Bull Mastiff eat pitbulls like nothing, and I have a friend who trains the DOgs for Police department out of dallas who has a King CHow, and It has killed 4 pitbulls 3 Rotwielers and 6 mutts like nothing.

Answer by isa_mike
Submitted on 6/12/2005
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after owning hunting dogs for the past 30 years and 3rd generation hunter, i wouldnt say that there would be any specific breeds that would be ranked in the highest end of the scale, cross breads maybe, remember the saying " not the dog in the fight, its the fight in the dog" it cant be truer. I have 3 dogs at the moment, a 73Kg Purebred bullmastiff ( just looks tough to keep unwanted visitors out ) and a bullarab/bullmastiff x ridgeback/dane. he looks like a throw back to a bullterrier x bluehealer and his son that has thrown back to ridgeback blood. My dogs havent ever been allowed to fight because of hunting, nothing worse than a dog getting hurt before it can do its job on a pig. but saying this, the bullmastiff was standing over my other dog, and inturn got the hiding of his life every day now, to the point where i either amputate his ears or shoot him, now this is a bull mastiff vs a cross bread giving away more than 35 kgs. my 2c worth, breeding crosses while not apealing t those that want a dog so they can say its a purebred, is the way to breed a fighting dog

Answer by Bulldog
Submitted on 6/22/2005
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Although some of the ranking shown by dis boy Isn't too bad, he obviously has no experience in dog fighting. In my opinion the best dog on dog fighter is the Spanish Alano - Alano Espanol. A very rare Spanish dog that is fighting extinction. Its Silent and very exciting to watch. It has an extremely deadly combination of stealth, power, speed, intelligence and durability. It has an exception scissor jaw and has the ability to turn off its pain receptors at will, this means that if the Spanish Alano likes, it doesn't feel pain for as long a period of time as it wishes. This is what makes it such an exciting fighter, because it doesn't let pain interfere with its fighting so a Spanish Alano fight is genuinely- the ultimate fight to the death.