From mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org Mon Nov 2 15:39:33 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2872 news.groups:58603 rec.radio.amateur.misc:27751 rec.radio.amateur.packet:4420 rec.radio.shortwave:19405 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.packet,rec.radio.shortwave Path: uunet!bounce-back From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org (Mark G. Salyzyn) Subject: RFD: rec.radio.info moderated Followup-To: news.groups Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence) Organization: Amateur Packet Radio E-mail Gateway VE6MGS Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1992 23:51:00 GMT Message-ID: Lines: 70 Proposed is a new moderated group, rec.radio.info. This group should carry informational posts such as the radio FAQs, Solar Reports, ARRL Bulletins, RACES Bulletins, Keplerian elements, AMSAT Bulletins, Amateurs on USENET list, Elmers List, SCDX postings and others too numerous to mention. Also informational posts in the other rec.radio.* groups may be reposted in this group (either at the request of the poster, or by one of the moderators). For the benefit of those of you that don't understand the current rec.radio.* hierarchy: rec.radio.amateur.misc Amateur Radio practices, contests, events and other discussions. rec.radio.amateur.packet Discussion about packet radio setups. rec.radio.amateur.policy Amateur Radio practices, rules, etc. rec.radio.swap Offers to trade and swap radio equipment. rec.radio.noncomm Non commercial radio discussions rec.radio.shortwave Shortwave Radio discussions. rec.radio.cb Arguments about Linears and whose stick is bigger rec.radio.broadcasting moderated group about broadcast radio Non of these groups would change, but the hopes would be that the informative posts from each of these groups end up in the proposed new group rec.radio.info. Other proposed names for the group that have been made are: rec.radio.answers, rec.radio.info, rec.radio.announce, rec.radio.amateur.news, rec.radio.news so a choice for a name for this group is also up in the air. The moderator that has volunteered is Mark Salyzyn (mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org) along with, I hope, several co-moderators that make up the list of informational post contributors. So far Paul W. Schleck (pschleck@cwis.unomaha.edu) has volunteered to be one of the co-moderators. I will try to set up an archive for this new group, but hopes are that there will be a volunteer with a better connected (ie: ftp'able) site arranged. Paul has also agreed that, once vote is to be taken in 30 days, he will tally the votes. The voting addresses will be presented at the RFV, so DO NOT VOTE NOW! Followups to news.groups. Please do not send me e-mail, as I am not the person you need to convince as to the validity/invalidity of this group. I leave that up to net-wisdom. Gentleman, start up your engines! -------- Recommended description ------- Newsgroup: rec.radio.info (moderated) /usr/lib/news/newsgroups entry: rec.radio.info Informational postings related to radio. Charter: To provide high quality, informational postings about radio. This group will be used to segregate information from the regular discussions streams, such as rec.radio.amateur.misc, to alieviate the traffic in these discussion groups. Also, by placing the informational postings in this group, make it easier for many to find radio related information. By maintaining a high level of quality in the postings, it is hoped that these postings may end up, at least more conveniently, over the Amateur Radio Packet BBS network as well through the various gateways. By using a co-moderator scheme, the hopes are that many of the postings will maintain timeliness, and good propagation through the computer networks. Ciao, 73 de VE6MGS/Mark -sk- From mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org Mon Nov 23 18:29:51 1992 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org (Mark G. Salyzyn, VE6MGS) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.packet,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.cb,alt.radio.scanner Subject: CFV: rec.radio.info moderated Followup-To: poster Date: 23 Nov 1992 18:06:39 -0500 Organization: ampr.org Lines: 66 Sender: tale@news.UU.NET Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <1ero5vINNcv5@news.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: news.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2988 news.groups:61635 rec.radio.amateur.misc:29130 rec.radio.shortwave:19881 rec.radio.amateur.policy:14289 rec.radio.amateur.packet:4608 rec.radio.noncomm:1667 rec.radio.cb:13749 alt.radio.scanner:2989 This is a CALL FOR VOTES for the creation of the rec.radio.info newsgroup. The RFD was first posted on 2 November 1992. It is decided that since discussion has stopped, showing support by acquiescence, that we will post the CFV prematurely with respect to the 30 days, typically, after the RFD group creation guidelines. The guidelines, however, state that the vote should be taken shortly after the end of discussion. Voting will start on publication of this article and end on December 23, 1992 at 23:59 GMT. Votes should be mailed as follows(*): Yes (create rec.radio.info, as proposed): QSL@unomaha.edu or qsl@unomaha.edu No (do not create): QRT@unomaha.edu or qrt@unomaha.edu Case is not important (at least on the receiving end). (* Voting mailboxes are amateur radio Q-codes for mnemonic purposes. QSL = acknowledged, also loosely yes or affirmative. QRT = cease transmission, also loosely no, "nix" or "86"). Votes that are posted or mailed to me will not be counted. Message bodies will be ignored for tallying purposes. Moderator at creation will be mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org (Mark Gregory Salyzyn). Regular posters to this group will be deputized to moderator status to provide timeliness, reliability and to keep the load down on the chief moderator. There is no archive site arranged at the moment, however, Lyndon.Nerenberg@unbc.edu has offered a site once installed in the coming month. Any offers to help moderate or archive this new group, if passed, can be made to mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org, adec23.UUCP!mark or pschleck@cwis.unomaha.edu. Votes will be acknowledged in followup CFVs in the newsgroups this CFV is posted to. I must thank pschleck@cwis.unomaha.edu (Paul W. Schleck) for taking on the task of being an independent vote taker and for his advice throughout this process. Please see the pertinent postings in news.answers and news.announce.newgroups for the rules that will be followed in creating a newsgroup. Newsgroup: rec.radio.info (moderated) /usr/lib/news/newsgroups entry: rec.radio.info Informational postings related to radio. Charter: To provide high quality, informational postings about radio. This group will take cross-postings, or moderated postings from the regular discussion streams to alleviate the traffic, over expensive links, in these groups by allowing the news transfer mechanism to drop articles cross posted to rec.radio.info. Postings in the entire rec.radio.* hierarchy that the moderator(s) feel as informational, however, are likely candidates for cross posting or re-posting. Also by placing the informational postings in this group, make it easier for many to find radio related information. By maintaining a high level of quality in the postings, it is hoped that these postings may end up, at least more conveniently, in various archive sites, or possibly over the Amateur Radio Packet BBS network as well. By using a self-moderator scheme, the hopes are that many of the postings will maintain timeliness, and good propagation through the computer networks. Ciao, 73 de VE6MGS/Mark -sk- From mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org Tue Dec 1 22:31:29 1992 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org (Mark G. Salyzyn, VE6MGS) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.packet,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.cb,alt.radio.scanner Subject: 2nd CFV and VOTE ACK: rec.radio.info moderated Followup-To: poster Date: 1 Dec 1992 13:43:48 -0500 Organization: ampr.org Lines: 185 Sender: tale@news.UU.NET Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <1fgbp4INNllg@news.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: news.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:3004 news.groups:62153 rec.radio.amateur.misc:29490 rec.radio.shortwave:20059 rec.radio.amateur.policy:14297 rec.radio.amateur.packet:4659 rec.radio.noncomm:1672 rec.radio.cb:13777 alt.radio.scanner:3064 This is a 2nd CALL FOR VOTES for the creation of the rec.radio.info newsgroup. At the end of this article is a list of blind tallies, acknowledging the reception of your votes. If you are not in the list, and have sent in a vote, please resend your vote. The RFD was first posted on 28 October 1992, and the original CFV was posted on 23 November 1992. Voting has started, and will end on December 23, 1992 at 23:59 GMT. Votes should be mailed as follows(*): Yes (create rec.radio.info, as proposed): QSL@unomaha.edu or qsl@unomaha.edu No (do not create): QRT@unomaha.edu or qrt@unomaha.edu Case is not important (at least on the receiving end). (* Voting mailboxes are amateur radio Q-codes for mnemonic purposes. QSL = acknowledged, also loosely yes or affirmative. QRT = cease transmission, also loosely no, "nix" or "86"). Votes that are posted or mailed to me will not be counted. Message bodies will be ignored for tallying purposes. Moderator at creation will be mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org (Mark Gregory Salyzyn) using the address rec-radio-info@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca. Regular posters to this group will be deputized to moderator status to provide timeliness, reliability and to keep the load down on the chief moderator. There is no archive site arranged at the moment, however, Lyndon.Nerenberg@unbc.edu has offered a site once installed in the coming month. We also need a BITNET Listserver gateway if anyone is interested in supplying. Any offers to help moderate or archive this new group, if passed, can be made to mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org, adec23.UUCP!mark or pschleck@cwis.unomaha.edu. Please see the pertinent postings in news.answers and news.announce.newgroups for the rules that will be followed in creating a newsgroup. ------- Charter -------- Newsgroup: rec.radio.info (moderated) /usr/lib/news/newsgroups entry: rec.radio.info Informational postings related to radio. Charter: To provide high quality, informational postings about radio. This group will take cross-postings, or moderated postings from the regular discussion streams to alleviate the traffic, over expensive links, in these groups by allowing the news transfer mechanism to drop articles cross posted to rec.radio.info. Postings in the entire rec.radio.* hierarchy that the moderator(s) feel as informational, however, are likely candidates for cross posting or re-posting. Also by placing the informational postings in this group, make it easier for many to find radio related information. By maintaining a high level of quality in the postings, it is hoped that these postings may end up, at least more conveniently, in various archive sites, or possibly over the Amateur Radio Packet BBS network as well. By using a self-moderator scheme, the hopes are that many of the postings will maintain timeliness, and good propagation through the computer networks. -------- Blind Tally, vote acknowledgements ------- From: Paul W Schleck KD3FU There should be 113 unique votes here. ... 73, Paul, KD3FU -- "39A::MUSCHINSKE" "Allen L. Spruill" "Bill Frangos" "David B. Horvath, CDP" "Dr.K.Krallis - Epsilon Software S.A." "Eric J. Olson" "Eric T. Lane" "Jason Berri" "Josh Cockey" "Loren Thompson" "Peter Koch" acourt@ncc.uky.edu Alan Cunningham andrew m. boardman B.J. 25-Nov-1992 0931 bart@netcom.com (Harry Bartholomew) bgirard@sfu.ca britton@proton.llumc.edu (Barrie Britton) Charles Shub Chris Cox W0/G4JEC cookav@catipult.anatcp.rockwell.com Craig Bender Craig Lemon VE3XCL d00476@cfi.waseda.ac.jp ("Bunji Yamamoto") Dale Mosby dalej@tara.boeing.com (dale jensrud) dave@eram.esi.com.au (Dave Horsfall) dnewcomb@whale.st.usm.edu (Donald R. Newcomb) Doug.Tygar@CS.CMU.EDU Doug_Crompton@mindlink.bc.ca (Doug Crompton) ECKMAN@DOBSON.LARC.NASA.GOV ehare@arrl.org (Ed Hare - KA1CV) emcguire@intellection.com (Ed McGuire) fau@po.CWRU.Edu (Francis A. Uy) geoff@pauling.inel.gov (Geoff Allen) Gerben 'P' Vos ggjns@knuth.mtsu.edu (John Schmidt) Graham Rule gt4503e@prism.gatech.edu (Tracy K. Wood/KD0UP) gtephx!blackj@enuucp.eas.asu.edu (Jim Black) I've got a pocket full of kryptonite ian@unipalm.co.uk (Ian Phillipps) IMER400@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU (Martha Rapp) Jay Maynard jcours@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jeffrey Cours) Jeff Tucker N9HZQ jeffb@audiolab.UWaterloo.ca (jeff bamford) jh@nbn.com (John Harkin) Jim -- DTN 223-5747 -- MLO5-2/13A jim@ka4ojn.raleigh.nc.us (Jim Curran) Joel B Levin john@n7kbt.rain.com (John Opalko) johnw@bluemoon.use.com Jonathan Bradshaw x5558 JSCHWITZ@eclx.psu.edu julian@bongo.info.com (Julian Macassey) jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) k2ph@cbnewsj.att.com kai@genepi.hanse.de (Kai Altenfelder) kd4jml.ampr.org!kd4jml@gateway.com keeper of the tone laborde@oak.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Gregory R. LaBorde) lgbiede@ptsfa.PacBell.COM (Larry G Biedenweg) Lyndon Nerenberg Maggie Donovan Magne.Maehre@swing.data.st.statoil.no, Martyn Johnson mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington) Michael Quinn mmt@RedBrick.COM (Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS) mpayne@cse.unl.edu (matt payne) MRO1-3/C6 dtn 297-9029 mss1@cornell.edu (Michael S Shappe) mzeug@ameris.center.il.ameritech.com (Michael R. Zeug) N.Kaiya orvb@micom.com (Orville Beach (MIS)) parknert@caesar.his.se parnass@ihlpm.att.com Paul.Tvete@ii.uib.no paulf@umunhum.stanford.edu (Paul Flaherty) PER_CUNNING@ohio.gov Peter Laws N5UWY Ralf Begemann Rami Zureick richard nimtz Rick Ellis rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller) Risto Kotalampi rlt@gummo.att.com (Roberta L Taylor) Roger Bielefeld Ron Buckmire root@itnbbs.ampr.ab.ca () rosedale!dcb@uunet.UU.NET (Dave Breneman) russ@Alliant.COM (Russell McFatter) rwa@cs.athabascau.ca (Ross Alexander) say@sfu.ca sbrown@charon.dseg.ti.com (Steve Brown) schubert@united.berkeley.edu (John Schubert) Soda Stereo! steve@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Steve Schallehn) strat@intercon.com (Bob Stratton) sunriv!ronh@uunet.uu.net Terry Maton - Construction Engineering Assistant Thomas Alan Dockstader tijoma@uta.fi (Jorma M{ntyl{) Tom Limoncelli Vaillan@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Clement Vaillancourt 514-652-8238) vyankey@gnu.ai.mit.edu Will Marchant William=E.=Newkirk%Pubs%GenAv.Mlb@ns14.cca.cr.rockwell.com willis@cs.tamu.edu (Willis Marti) yee@mipgsun.mipg.upenn.edu (Conway Yee) Ciao, 73 de VE6MGS/Mark -sk- From mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org Mon Dec 14 20:26:44 1992 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org (Mark G. Salyzyn, VE6MGS) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.packet,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.cb,alt.radio.scanner Subject: 3rd CFV and VOTE ACK: rec.radio.info moderated Followup-To: poster Date: 14 Dec 1992 20:22:51 -0500 Organization: ampr.org Lines: 283 Sender: tale@news.UU.NET Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <1gjc1bINN2qg@news.UU.NET> References: <1fgbp4INNllg@news.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: news.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:3054 news.groups:63189 rec.radio.amateur.misc:30326 rec.radio.shortwave:20422 rec.radio.amateur.policy:14389 rec.radio.amateur.packet:4822 rec.radio.noncomm:1683 rec.radio.cb:13879 alt.radio.scanner:3273 This is the 3rd CALL FOR VOTES for the creation of the rec.radio.info newsgroup. At the end of this article is a list of blind tallies, acknowledging the reception of your votes as of Midnight Saturday December 5 Central Standard Time. If you are not in the list, and have sent in a vote before that time, please resend your vote. The RFD was first posted on 28 October 1992, the original CFV was posted on 23 November 1992 and the 2nd CFV was posted on December 1st. Voting has started, and will end on December 23, 1992 at 23:59 GMT. Votes should be mailed as follows(*): Yes (create rec.radio.info, as proposed): QSL@unomaha.edu or qsl@unomaha.edu No (do not create): QRT@unomaha.edu or qrt@unomaha.edu Case is not important (at least on the receiving end). (* Voting mailboxes are amateur radio Q-codes for mnemonic purposes. QSL = acknowledged, also loosely yes or affirmative. QRT = cease transmission, also loosely no, "nix" or "86"). Votes that are posted or mailed to me will not be counted. Message bodies will be ignored for tallying purposes. Moderator at creation will be mark@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca (Mark Gregory Salyzyn) using the address rec-radio-info@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca for postings, and rec-radio-request@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca for administrative requests. Note that the domain address of ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca is replacing the ve6mgs.ampr.org domain for reliability in mail forwarding. Regular posters to this group will be deputized to moderator status to provide timeliness, reliability and to keep the load down on the chief moderator. There is no archive site arranged at the moment, however, Lyndon.Nerenberg@unbc.edu has offered a site once installed in the coming month. We also need a BITNET Listserver gateway if anyone is interested in supplying one. Any offers to help moderate, gateway or archive this new group, if the vote passes, can be made to mark@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca or pschleck@cwis.unomaha.edu. Please see the pertinent postings in news.answers and news.announce.newgroups for the rules that will be followed in creating a newsgroup. ------- Charter -------- Newsgroup: rec.radio.info (moderated) /usr/lib/news/newsgroups entry: rec.radio.info Informational postings related to radio. Charter: To provide high quality, informational postings about radio. This group will take cross-postings, or moderated postings from the regular discussion streams to alleviate the traffic, over expensive links, in these groups by allowing the news transfer mechanism to drop articles cross posted to rec.radio.info. Postings in the entire rec.radio.* hierarchy that the moderator(s) feel as informational, however, are likely candidates for cross posting or re-posting. Also by placing the informational postings in this group, make it easier for many to find radio related information. By maintaining a high level of quality in the postings, it is hoped that these postings may end up, at least more conveniently, in various archive sites, or possibly over the Amateur Radio Packet BBS network as well. By using a self-moderator scheme, the hopes are that many of the postings will maintain timeliness, and good propagation through the computer networks. -------- Blind Tally, vote acknowledgements ------- >From: Paul W Schleck KD3FU There should be 204 unique votes here, received as of 2359 CST Saturday, December 5 (0559 GMT Sunday, December 6). 73, Paul, KD3FU "39A::MUSCHINSKE" "Allen L. Spruill" "Andre' V. Thomas" "Bill Frangos" "Dana H. Myers" "David B. Horvath, CDP" "Dr.K.Krallis - Epsilon Software S.A." "Eric J. Olson" "Eric T. Lane" "Henry T. Rand" (AED-FD) "Howard Wachtel (312) 975-7970" "Jack C. LOCKHART" "Jason Berri" "Jeffrey D. Angus" "Josh Cockey" "Julian Lorkin" "Loren Thompson" "Peter Gray [MFCF]" "Peter Koch" "Sid B. Bernstein" (AED-EWD) "Thomas W. Strong, Jr." acourt@ncc.uky.edu Alan Cunningham andrew dalton andrew m. boardman ANDY GARDNER andy@homebase.vistachrome.com (Andrew Finkenstadt) B.J. 25-Nov-1992 0931 bart@netcom.com (Harry Bartholomew) bc338569@longs.lance.colostate.edu (Brian J. Catlin) bgirard@sfu.ca Bob Billson britton@proton.llumc.edu (Barrie Britton) bwilkins@holonet.net (Bob Wilkins n6fri) C.Koch@cen.exeter.ac.uk capener@netcom.com (Chris Capener) CARLO@TUSMX1.UTOVRM.IT carmi@ipld01.hac.com (Aviram Carmi) cdr@kpc.com (Carl Rigney) Charles Shub Chris Cox W0/G4JEC cookav@catipult.anatcp.rockwell.com Craig Bender Craig Lemon VE3XCL craigc@sp-eug.com (Craig Cherry) crash!pnet01!jbritain@nosc.mil d00476@cfi.waseda.ac.jp ("Bunji Yamamoto") Dale Mosby dalej@tara.boeing.com (dale jensrud) dan@halcyon.halcyon.com (Dan Lawrence) Dave M. Ihle dave@eram.esi.com.au (Dave Horsfall) david@stat.com (David Dodell) ddtodd@ucdavis.edu (Daniel D. Todd) delisle@eskimo.com (Ben Delisle) Dennis Brennan Dieter Lindig dls@genrad.com (Diana L. Carlson) dnewcomb@whale.st.usm.edu (Donald R. Newcomb) Doug Collinge - VE7GNU Doug.Tygar@CS.CMU.EDU Doug_Crompton@mindlink.bc.ca (Doug Crompton) dsinc!bcccix!jfish (John Fish) eagle@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Steven Aquilina) ean@gvls2.GVL.Unisys.COM (Ed Naratil) ECKMAN@DOBSON.LARC.NASA.GOV ehare@arrl.org (Ed Hare - KA1CV) emcguire@intellection.com (Ed McGuire) emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca fau@po.CWRU.Edu (Francis A. Uy) freyr!pakers@netcom.com (Phillip Akers) fuzzface@cats.UCSC.EDU (Aaron Priven) g-taylor4@tamu.edu geoff@pauling.inel.gov (Geoff Allen) Gerben 'P' Vos ggjns@knuth.mtsu.edu (John Schmidt) ggw@wolves.Durham.NC.US (Gregory G. Woodbury) gjk@hogpa.ho.att.com (Gerald J Kersus +1 908 949 9511) Graham Rule gt4503e@prism.gatech.edu (Tracy K. Wood/KD0UP) gtephx!blackj@enuucp.eas.asu.edu (Jim Black) gy91nan@txfs1.hfb.se (Niclas Andersson El3a - HFB gy91) haymoree@oregon.et.byu.edu (Edward Haymore) I've got a pocket full of kryptonite ian@unipalm.co.uk (Ian Phillipps) ikluft@uts.amdahl.com (Ian Kluft) IMER400@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU (Martha Rapp) Jay Maynard jbritain@pnet01.cts.com (Jim Britain) jcours@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jeffrey Cours) Jeff Tucker N9HZQ jeffb@audiolab.UWaterloo.ca (jeff bamford) jejensen@ccs.carleton.ca (John Jensen) jfreund@mindvox.phantom.com (Jim Freund) jh@nbn.com (John Harkin) jhigbee@icarus.weber.edu (Jonathan C. Higbee) Jim -- DTN 223-5747 -- MLO5-2/13A jim@ka4ojn.raleigh.nc.us (Jim Curran) jmcoving@mosaic.uncc.edu (John Covington WN4BBJ) Joe Dubner Joel B Levin John Flowers john@n7kbt.rain.com (John Opalko) johnw@bluemoon.use.com Jonathan Bradshaw x5558 JSCHWITZ@eclx.psu.edu Juhan Poeldvere julian@bongo.info.com (Julian Macassey) jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) K.A.Marlow@computer-science.birmingham.ac.uk k2ph@cbnewsj.att.com kai@genepi.hanse.de (Kai Altenfelder) kbarger@cellar.org (Kyle Barger) kd4jml.ampr.org!kd4jml@gateway.com keeper of the tone Kevin Purcell (Rho) Kevin Sanders kfeeney@KLONDIKE.CIT.CORNELL.EDU (Kevin Feeney) krf@krf.b8.ingr.com (K.R.Findlay Ed.S.) laborde@oak.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Gregory R. LaBorde) lcz@dptspd.sat.datapoint.com (Lee Ziegenhals) lgbiede@ptsfa.PacBell.COM (Larry G Biedenweg) louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos) Lyndon Nerenberg Maggie Donovan Magne.Maehre@swing.data.st.statoil.no, mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org (Mark G. Salyzyn, VE6MGS) Martyn Johnson Mathieu J. Maessen Matthew Daniels matwood@cadehp8.eng.utah.edu mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington) Michael Quinn mikef@pacifier.rain.com (Mike Freeman) miltonm@inetnode.austin.ibm.com (Milton Miller) mjohnsto@shearson.com (Mike Johnston) mmt@RedBrick.COM (Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS) Moss Owen Jacobson mpayne@cse.unl.edu (matt payne) MRO1-3/C6 dtn 297-9029 mss1@cornell.edu (Michael S Shappe) mzeug@ameris.center.il.ameritech.com (Michael R. Zeug) N.Kaiya Nigel Allen orvb@micom.com (Orville Beach (MIS)) parknert@caesar.his.se parnass@ihlpm.att.com patrik@cup.portal.com Paul.Tvete@ii.uib.no paulf@umunhum.stanford.edu (Paul Flaherty) PER_CUNNING@ohio.gov Peter Hayward Peter Laws N5UWY phantom@pro-haven.cts.com (Tiffany Keller) pseudo!mjn@uunet.UU.NET (Murray Nesbitt) Ralf Begemann rambler@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Dan Meyer) Rami Zureick RAVEN Winter rfc@encrypt.hdtv.att.com (Robert F. Casey) Rich rich@wilpat.wilpaterson.edu (RICHARD) richard nimtz Richard Victor Rick Ellis rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller) rick@ricksys.lonestar.org (Richard McCombs KB5SNF) Risto Kotalampi rlt@gummo.att.com (Roberta L Taylor) Robert Fargher Roger Bielefeld Ron Buckmire root@itnbbs.ampr.ab.ca () rosedale!dcb@uunet.UU.NET (Dave Breneman) russ@Alliant.COM (Russell McFatter) rwa@cs.athabascau.ca (Ross Alexander) say@sfu.ca sbrown@charon.dseg.ti.com (Steve Brown) schubert@united.berkeley.edu (John Schubert) skitch@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL (M. Squicciarini) Soda Stereo! Stephen Hebditch steve@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Steve Schallehn) steve@zero.com (Steve Urich) strat@intercon.com (Bob Stratton) sunriv!ronh@uunet.uu.net Terry Maton - Construction Engineering Assistant testnet!pr@pegasus.att.com thiagarajan subramanian Thomas Alan Dockstader tijoma@uta.fi (Jorma M{ntyl{) Tom Limoncelli UNB Amateur Radio Vaillan@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Clement Vaillancourt 514-652-8238) VFOAO007@VAX.CSUN.EDU (Michael Reagan (MREAGAN)) vogon1!compnect!frackit!dave@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Dave Ratcliffe) vyankey@gnu.ai.mit.edu wanagin@kingkong.escape.de (Ulf Bahrenfuss) Will Marchant William=E.=Newkirk%Pubs%GenAv.Mlb@ns14.cca.cr.rockwell.com willis@cs.tamu.edu (Willis Marti) WRIGHT@morekypr.bitnet yee@mipgsun.mipg.upenn.edu (Conway Yee) Ciao, 73 de VE6MGS/Mark -sk- From mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org Wed Jan 6 21:03:08 1993 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org (Mark G. Salyzyn, VE6MGS) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.packet,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.cb,alt.radio.scanner Subject: RESULT: rec.radio.info passes 215:51 Followup-To: news.groups Date: 6 Jan 1993 19:35:49 -0500 Organization: UUNET Communications Lines: 331 Sender: tale@rodan.UU.NET Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <1iftt5INN79d@rodan.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:3095 news.groups:63962 rec.radio.amateur.misc:31793 rec.radio.shortwave:20794 rec.radio.amateur.policy:14450 rec.radio.amateur.packet:5013 rec.radio.noncomm:1692 rec.radio.cb:13964 alt.radio.scanner:3642 FINAL VOTE ACK AND VOTE TALLY The vote for creation of rec.readio.info passed, with 215 votes in favour (QSL), and 51 votes against (QRT) for a total of 266 unique ballots, when the voting ceased on Wednesday, December 23, 1992 at 2359 UTC. This meets or exceeds the requirements that more than 100 yes votes be received than no votes, and that greater than 2/3 of the total votes are in favor of the new newsgroup. Next is a 7-day cooling off period for any objections to be raised. Barring any meaningful objections, the new newsgroup will be created. As the moderator for news.announce.newgroups is going on vacation, I can not guess as to the creation date of this new group, but I will be taking submissions starting the official creation date to the address rec-radio-info@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca, with administrative requests at rec-radio-request@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca. I invite the moderator team members to begin cross-posting of their bulletins on that date. Thanks to all who voted! Democracy, I *love* it! I do hope the people that voted no have no hard feelings, and will definitely try to address some of their comments included in their ballots. The following votes were received by the close of voting, Wednesday, December 23, 1992 at 2359 UTC (5:59 PM Central Standard Time). The list starts with the 215 QSL or Create rec.radio.info votes, followed by the 51 QRT or Do NOT Create rec.radio.info votes. The votes were tallied courtesy Paul W Schleck pschleck@cwis.unomaha.edu. QSL (Create rec.radio.info, as proposed), 215 unique votes: ---------------------------------------------------------- "39A::MUSCHINSKE" "Allen L. Spruill" "Andre' V. Thomas" "Bill Frangos" "Bradley G Trusty-1" "Brian J. Papa" "Dr.K.Krallis - Epsilon Software S.A." "Eric T. Lane" "Gordon M. Charrick" "Howard Wachtel (312) 975-7970" "Jack C. LOCKHART" "Josh Cockey" "Julian Lorkin" "Loren Thompson" "Margaret A Plumbo-1" (Phil Plumbo) "Mike Titus (214) 709-2400 ext. 2259" "Peter Gray [MFCF]" "Peter Koch" "Roger K. Sanderson P.Eng." "Thomas W. Strong, Jr." Alan Cunningham andrew dalton andrew m. boardman ANDY GARDNER andy@homebase.vistachrome.com (Andrew Finkenstadt) B.J. 25-Nov-1992 0931 babani@acsu.buffalo.edu (Rusty Babani) bart@netcom.com (Harry Bartholomew) bc338569@longs.lance.colostate.edu (Brian J. Catlin) Benjamin Jonas bgirard@sfu.ca Bob Billson Brad Moersfelder - Quad Tech Imaging R&D at 7869 britton@proton.llumc.edu (Barrie Britton) bwilkins@holonet.net (Bob Wilkins n6fri) C.Koch@cen.exeter.ac.uk capener@netcom.com (Chris Capener) Carl Schaefer CARLO@TUSMX1.UTOVRM.IT carmi@ipld01.hac.com (Aviram Carmi) Chris Cox W0/G4JEC chris@localhost.Colorado.EDU (Chris "Wintermute" Yoder) Christophe.Huygens@cs.kuleuven.ac.be (Christophe Huygens) Craig Lemon VE3XCL craigc@sp-eug.com (Craig Cherry) d00476@cfi.waseda.ac.jp ("Bunji Yamamoto") Dale Mosby dalej@tara.boeing.com (dale jensrud) dan@halcyon.halcyon.com (Dan Lawrence) Dave M. Ihle dave@eram.esi.com.au (Dave Horsfall) david@stat.com (David Dodell) delisle@eskimo.com (Ben Delisle) Dennis Brennan Dieter Lindig dls@genrad.com (Diana L. Carlson) dnewcomb@whale.st.usm.edu (Donald R. Newcomb) Doug Collinge - VE7GNU Doug.Tygar@CS.CMU.EDU Doug_Crompton@mindlink.bc.ca (Doug Crompton) dsinc!bcccix!jfish (John Fish) eagle@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Steven Aquilina) ean@gvls2.GVL.Unisys.COM (Ed Naratil) ECKMAN@DOBSON.LARC.NASA.GOV ehare@arrl.org (Ed Hare - KA1CV) emcguire@intellection.com (Ed McGuire) fau@po.CWRU.Edu (Francis A. Uy) fc1jso@stna7.stna7.stna.dgac.fr freyr!pakers@netcom.com (Phillip Akers) fuzzface@cats.UCSC.EDU (Aaron Priven) g-taylor4@tamu.edu garym@flash.telesoft.com (Gary Morris @pulsar) geoff@pauling.inel.gov (Geoff Allen) Gerben 'P' Vos ggjns@knuth.mtsu.edu (John Schmidt) gjk@hogpa.ho.att.com (Gerald J Kersus +1 908 949 9511) Graham Rule grund@pyrite.SOM.CWRU.Edu gy91nan@txfs1.hfb.se (Niclas Andersson El3a - HFB gy91) Harald Brinkmann haymoree@oregon.et.byu.edu (Edward Haymore) hmueller@orca.tamu.edu (Hal Mueller) I've got a pocket full of kryptonite ian@unipalm.co.uk (Ian Phillipps) ikluft@uts.amdahl.com (Ian Kluft) IMER400@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU (Martha Rapp) Jack GF Hill Jay Maynard jbritain@pnet01.cts.com (Jim Britain) jcours@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jeffrey Cours) jcv26@cas.org (Jon Vander Hill) jdw@wucs1.wustl.edu (j d wilson) jeffb@audiolab.UWaterloo.ca (jeff bamford) jejensen@ccs.carleton.ca (John Jensen) jfreund@mindvox.phantom.com (Jim Freund) jgt10@uts.amdahl.com (John G. Thompson) jh@nbn.com (John Harkin) jhigbee@icarus.weber.edu (Jonathan C. Higbee) Jim -- DTN 223-5747 -- MLO5-2/13A jjc@world.std.com (James J Conrad) jmcoving@mosaic.uncc.edu (John Covington WN4BBJ) Joe Dubner Joel B Levin John Flowers John Paul Shalamskas johnw@bluemoon.use.com Sat Nov 28 Jonathan Bradshaw x5558 JSCHWITZ@eclx.psu.edu Juhan Poeldvere jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) K.A.Marlow@computer-science.birmingham.ac.uk karl@khk.ghia.rhein-main.de (Karl-Heinz Kuehlborn) kathy l u berglundn Kauto Huopio kbarger@cellar.org (Kyle Barger) kd4jml.ampr.org!kd4jml@gateway.com keeper of the tone Keith McQueen Kevin Purcell (Rho) kfeeney@KLONDIKE.CIT.CORNELL.EDU (Kevin Feeney) Kitagawa Masahiro krf@krf.b8.ingr.com (K.R.Findlay Ed.S.) laborde@oak.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Gregory R. LaBorde) lcz@dptspd.sat.datapoint.com (Lee Ziegenhals) lgbiede@ptsfa.PacBell.COM (Larry G Biedenweg) lucky@ece.iisc.ernet.in Lyndon Nerenberg Maggie Donovan Magne.Maehre@swing.data.st.statoil.no, marier@blkcmb.zso.dec.com.zso.dec.com mark@ve6mgs.ampr.org (Mark G. Salyzyn, VE6MGS) Martyn Johnson Mathieu J. Maessen Matteo Cardin 274008/IL matwood@cadehp8.eng.utah.edu MBAYA@ANTIOC.ANTIOCH.EDU mbn@greyskul (Mike Northam) mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington) Michael Quinn mikef@pacifier.rain.com (Mike Freeman) mikey@slic.cts.com (Mike Shirley) miltonm@inetnode.austin.ibm.com (Milton Miller) mja@acd4.acd.com ( Mike Allard ) moisan@silver.lcs.mit.edu (David Moisan) Moss Owen Jacobson MOTSUK@CUA.EDU mpayne@cse.unl.edu (matt payne) Mr G J Errington B.Sc. mss1@cornell.edu (Michael S Shappe) N.Kaiya n7kbt!john@qiclab.scn.rain.com Nicolai E.M. Plum Nigel Allen Nigel Watkinson orvb@micom.com (Orville Beach (MIS)) patrik@cup.portal.com Paul Maciel Paul.Tvete@ii.uib.no paulf@umunhum.Stanford.EDU PER_CUNNING@ohio.gov Peter Laws N5UWY phantom@pro-haven.cts.com (Tiffany Keller) Ralf Begemann Rami Zureick randall@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Michael Randall) rfc@encrypt.hdtv.att.com (Robert F. Casey) Rich rich@wilpat.wilpaterson.edu (RICHARD) richard nimtz Richard Victor Rick Ellis rick@ricksys.lonestar.org (Richard McCombs KB5SNF) Risto Kotalampi rlt@gummo.att.com (Roberta L Taylor) Robert Fargher Roger Bielefeld Ron Buckmire root@itnbbs.ampr.ab.ca () rosedale!dcb@uunet.UU.NET (Dave Breneman) Russ Crisp rwa@cs.athabascau.ca (Ross Alexander) saba@tellabs.com say@sfu.ca sbrown@charon.dseg.ti.com (Steve Brown) schubert@united.berkeley.edu (John Schubert) Sean Petty skeeter@skatter.usask.ca skitch@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL (M. Squicciarini) slutsky@tesla.njit.edu Soda Stereo! sridhar@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman ) Stephen Hebditch steve@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Steve Schallehn) steve@presoft.com (Steve Kohlenberger) strat@intercon.com (Bob Stratton) Terry Maton - Construction Engineering Assistant testnet!pr@pegasus.att.com (Paul Richards) thiagarajan subramanian Thomas Alan Dockstader tima@CFSMO.Honeywell.COM (Timothy D Aanerud) Tom Limoncelli tstader@aol.com UNB Amateur Radio Vaillan@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Clement Vaillancourt 514-652-8238) VFOAO007@VAX.CSUN.EDU (Michael Reagan (MREAGAN)) vogon1!compnect!frackit!dave@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Dave Ratcliffe) vogon1!compnect!frackit!ka3uzr!daveh@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Dave Hultberg) vyankey@gnu.ai.mit.edu w1gsl@Athena.MIT.EDU wanagin@kingkong.escape.de (Ulf Bahrenfuss) Warren E. Lewis Warren_Tuiskula@vos.stratus.com Will Marchant William=E.=Newkirk%Pubs%GenAv.Mlb@ns14.cca.cr.rockwell.com wperkins!wmp ("William M. Perkins") QRT (Do not create), 51 unique votes: ------------------------------------- "Dana H. Myers" "David B. Horvath, CDP" "Eric J. Olson" "Henry T. Rand" (AED-FD) "Jason Berri" "Jeffrey D. Angus" "Sid B. Bernstein" (AED-EWD) acourt@ncc.uky.edu cdr@kpc.com (Carl Rigney) Charles Shub cookav@catipult.anatcp.rockwell.com Craig Bender ddtodd@ucdavis.edu (Daniel D. Todd) emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca ggw@wolves.Durham.NC.US (Gregory G. Woodbury) gt4503e@prism.gatech.edu (Tracy K. Wood/KD0UP) gtephx!blackj@enuucp.eas.asu.edu (Jim Black) Harris Boldt Edelman Jeff Tucker N9HZQ jim@ka4ojn.raleigh.nc.us (Jim Curran) jkearman@arrl.org (Jim Kearman) julian@bongo.info.com (Julian Macassey) k2ph@cbnewsj.att.com kai@genepi.hanse.de (Kai Altenfelder) Kevin Sanders kthompso@donald.wichitaks.NCR.COM larson@net.com (Alan Larson) louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos) lwolfgang@arrl.org (Larry Wolfgang) Matthew Daniels mjohnsto@shearson.com (Mike Johnston) MRO1-3/C6 dtn 297-9029 mzeug@ameris.center.il.ameritech.com (Michael R. Zeug) parknert@caesar.his.se parnass@ihlpm.att.com Peter Hayward pseudo!mjn@uunet.UU.NET (Murray Nesbitt) rambler@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Dan Meyer) RAVEN Winter rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller) root@col.hp.com russ@Alliant.COM (Russell McFatter) rwed@gnu.ai.mit.edu sapnet!n8jbo@mcnnet.HCIA.COM (James E. Cook) steve@zero.com (Steve Urich) sunriv!ronh@uunet.uu.net tijoma@uta.fi (Jorma M{ntyl{) willis@cs.tamu.edu (Willis Marti) WRIGHT@morekypr.BITNET yee@mipgsun.mipg.upenn.edu (Conway Yee) ---- Now a brief advertisement ---- Newsgroup: rec.radio.info (moderated) /usr/lib/news/newsgroups entry: rec.radio.info Informational postings related to radio. Charter: To provide high quality, informational postings about radio. This group will take cross-postings, or moderated postings from the regular discussion streams to alieviate the traffic, over expensive links, in these groups by allowing the news transfer mechanism to drop articles cross posted to rec.radio.info. Postings in the entire rec.radio.* heirarchy that the moderators deam as informational, however, are likely candidates for cross posting or re-posting. Also by placing the informational postings in this group, make it easier for many to find radio related information. By maintaining a high level of quality in the postings, it is hoped that these postings may end up, at least more conveniently, in various archive sites, or possibly over the Amateur Radio Packet BBS network as well. By using a self-moderator scheme, the hopes are that many of the postings will maintain timeliness, and good propagation through the computer networks. -- Ciao, 73 de VE6MGS/Mark -sk-