From peacoct6503@cobra.uni.edu (T. JordanPeacock) Wed Mar 15 14:45:56 1995 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: peacoct6503@cobra.uni.edu (T. Jordan "Greywolf" Peacock) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.games.miniatures Subject: RFD: rec.games.miniatures reorganization Followup-To: news.groups Date: 14 Mar 1995 12:09:40 -0500 Organization: uni.edu Lines: 87 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <3k4ikk$mnh@rodan.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:6440 news.groups:139293 rec.games.miniatures:22540 This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) to reorganize rec.games.miniatures into: rec.games.miniatures.historical rec.games.miniatures.warhammer rec.games.miniatures.misc Group name: rec.games.miniatures.historical Status: Unmoderated Summary: Discussion of simulation games of historical and modern warfare, utilizing miniatures. Group name: rec.games.miniatures.warhammer Status: Unmoderated Summary: Discussion of miniatures-based games set in the Warhammer fantasy/science-fiction universe. Group name: rec.games.miniatures.misc Status: Unmoderated Summary: Discussion of miniatures-based games and related topics. Proposed by: peacoct6503@cobra.uni.edu (T. Jordan "Greywolf" Peacock) CHARTER FOR REC.GAMES.MINIATURES.HISTORICAL ------------------------------------------- Rec.games.miniatures.historical shall be an unmoderated recreational newsgroup devoted to the discussion of miniatures games involving simulation and/or reinactment of historical and/or modern warfare. CHARTER FOR REC.GAMES.MINIATURES.WARHAMMER ------------------------------------------ Rec.games.miniatures.warhammer shall be an unmoderated recreational newsgroup devoted to the discussion of various fantasy and science-fiction miniatures games set in the "Warhammer" universe, including but not limited to such games as Warhammer Fantasy Battles (WFB), Warhammer 40000 (40K) and Man o' War (MOW). CHARTER FOR REC.GAMES.MINIATURES.MISC ------------------------------------- Rec.games.miniatures.misc shall be an unmoderated recreational newsgroup devoted to the discussion of various miniatures games, as well as topics of general interest pertaining to miniatures themselves. Topics pertaining to miniatures which do not pertain to more specific genres covered by other newsgroups would be appropriate here. This would include but not be limited to such things as painting techniques, sculpting, casting, terrain construction, "kit-bashing", and other general concerns, as well as discussion of any miniatures games that are not covered by another more specific newsgroup already. RATIONALE --------- Rec.games.miniatures serves as a forum of discussion for a very diverse range of games that fall under the category of "miniatures games", in addition to discussion about the sculpting, painting and collection of miniatures themselves. There are two easily identified subsets which dominate the group, being that of the "historical" gamers and the players of the various "Warhammer" universe games. There is little crossover between the two interests, hence there are frequent requests for a split to reorganize the group and lessen clutter. Miniatures topics that do not fall into either category would, by default, be discussed on the rec.games.miniatures.misc newsgroup. Thank you very much for your time and consideration in this matter. I personally believe that this subdivision would do much to improve discussion of all sorts of miniatures-based games. Respectfully, T. Jordan "Greywolf" Peacock From spb@ntrs.com Mon May 8 18:43:01 1995 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: spb@ntrs.com (Steve Bonine) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.games.miniatures Subject: CFV: rec.games.miniatures reorganization Followup-To: poster Date: 8 May 1995 12:46:14 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 103 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Expires: 30 May 1995 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: References: <3k4ikk$mnh@rodan.UU.NET> Reply-To: voting@ntrs.com NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:6778 news.groups:148321 rec.games.miniatures:27247 FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) unmoderated group rec.games.miniatures.historical unmoderated group rec.games.miniatures.warhammer unmoderated group rec.games.miniatures.misc (replaces rec.games.miniatures) Newsgroups lines: rec.games.miniatures.historical Historical and modern tabletop wargaming rec.games.miniatures.misc Miniatures and misc. tabletop wargames rec.games.miniatures.warhammer Wargaming in the Warhammer Universe Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 29 May 1995. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting questions only contact Steve Bonine . For questions about the proposed group contact T. Jordan "Greywolf" Peacock . This CFV will be sent to mailing list dbm-list@lists.stanford.edu. CHARTERS REC.GAMES.MINIATURES.HISTORICAL Rec.games.miniatures.historical shall be an unmoderated recreational newsgroup devoted to the discussion of miniatures games involving simulation and/or reinactment of historical and/or modern warfare. REC.GAMES.MINIATURES.MISC This group replaces the existing group rec.games.miniatures. Rec.games.miniatures.misc shall be an unmoderated recreational newsgroup devoted to the discussion of various miniatures games, as well as topics of general interest pertaining to miniatures themselves. Topics pertaining to miniatures but which do not pertain to more specific genres covered by other newsgroups would be appropriate here. This would include but not be limited to such things as painting techniques, sculpting, casting, terrain construction, "kit-bashing", and other general concerns, as well as discussion of any miniatures games that are not covered by another more specific newsgroup already. REC.GAMES.MINIATURES.WARHAMMER Rec.games.miniatures.warhammer shall be an unmoderated recreational newsgroup devoted to the discussion of various fantasy and science-fiction miniatures games set in the "Warhammer" universe, including but not limited to such games as Warhammer Fantasy Battles (WFB), Warhammer 40000 (40K) and Man o' War (MOW). RATIONALE Rec.games.miniatures is currently dominated by two distinct groups of miniatures gamers with nearly exclusive interests. These groups can be divided into "historical" gamers and "Warhammer" gamers. In the interest of better organizing the group, there is reason to subdivide the group to allow each of these sub-groups their own forums. Furthermore, there is currently no appropriate place to post for-sale and wanted-to-buy messages concerning miniatures games, so rec.games.miniatures.marketplace could solve this problem. Finally, rec.games.miniatures.misc is required as a replacement for the original rec.games.miniatures in order to serve as a "catch-all" for all topics not covered by the more specific sub-groups. HOW TO VOTE You must send MAIL to voting@ntrs.com. (Posting in a newsgroup does not constitute a vote.) Just replying to this article should work unless you are reading it on a mailing list, but please check the TO address. Please remove text before the marker line below. Voting mail is archived by the votetakers, and hundreds of copies of the entire CFV wastes space. Type your vote of YES or NO for each group on the line for that group. If you do not wish to vote for a group, simply leave that line alone. You need not worry about quoting characters which your mailer inserts. Please type YES or NO, not Y, N, or X. The votes are tabulated by a program, and a valid vote is defined as the word YES or NO on the same line as the name of the group. You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome. Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge- ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again. It is your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly. Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list. -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- rec.games.miniatures reorg Ballot (Don't remove this marker) Please give your real name here: [Your Vote] Group ----------------------------------------------------------------------- [ ] rec.games.miniatures.historical [ ] rec.games.miniatures.misc (replaces rec.games.miniatures) [ ] rec.games.miniatures.warhammer -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From spb@ntrs.com Tue May 16 19:36:23 1995 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: spb@ntrs.com (Steve Bonine) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.games.miniatures Subject: 2nd CFV: rec.games.miniatures reorganization Supersedes: Followup-To: poster Date: 16 May 1995 15:07:56 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 111 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Expires: 30 May 1995 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: References: <3k4ikk$mnh@rodan.UU.NET> Reply-To: voting@ntrs.com NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: rec.games.miniatures-reorg Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:6850 news.groups:149773 rec.games.miniatures:27924 LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) unmoderated group rec.games.miniatures.historical unmoderated group rec.games.miniatures.warhammer unmoderated group rec.games.miniatures.misc (replaces rec.games.miniatures) Newsgroups lines: rec.games.miniatures.historical Historical and modern tabletop wargaming rec.games.miniatures.misc Miniatures and misc. tabletop wargames rec.games.miniatures.warhammer Wargaming in the Warhammer Universe Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 29 May 1995. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting questions only contact Steve Bonine . For questions about the proposed group contact T. Jordan "Greywolf" Peacock . This CFV will be sent to mailing list dbm-list@lists.stanford.edu. CHARTERS REC.GAMES.MINIATURES.HISTORICAL Rec.games.miniatures.historical shall be an unmoderated recreational newsgroup devoted to the discussion of miniatures games involving simulation and/or reinactment of historical and/or modern warfare. REC.GAMES.MINIATURES.MISC This group replaces the existing group rec.games.miniatures. Rec.games.miniatures.misc shall be an unmoderated recreational newsgroup devoted to the discussion of various miniatures games, as well as topics of general interest pertaining to miniatures themselves. Topics pertaining to miniatures but which do not pertain to more specific genres covered by other newsgroups would be appropriate here. This would include but not be limited to such things as painting techniques, sculpting, casting, terrain construction, "kit-bashing", and other general concerns, as well as discussion of any miniatures games that are not covered by another more specific newsgroup already. REC.GAMES.MINIATURES.WARHAMMER Rec.games.miniatures.warhammer shall be an unmoderated recreational newsgroup devoted to the discussion of various fantasy and science-fiction miniatures games set in the "Warhammer" universe, including but not limited to such games as Warhammer Fantasy Battles (WFB), Warhammer 40000 (40K) and Man o' War (MOW). RATIONALE Rec.games.miniatures is currently dominated by two distinct groups of miniatures gamers with nearly exclusive interests. These groups can be divided into "historical" gamers and "Warhammer" gamers. In the interest of better organizing the group, there is reason to subdivide the group to allow each of these sub-groups their own forums. Furthermore, there is currently no appropriate place to post for-sale and wanted-to-buy messages concerning miniatures games, so rec.games.miniatures.marketplace could solve this problem. Finally, rec.games.miniatures.misc is required as a replacement for the original rec.games.miniatures in order to serve as a "catch-all" for all topics not covered by the more specific sub-groups. HOW TO VOTE You must send MAIL to voting@ntrs.com. (Posting in a newsgroup does not constitute a vote.) Just replying to this article should work unless you are reading it on a mailing list, but please check the TO address. Please remove text before the marker line below. Voting mail is archived by the votetakers, and hundreds of copies of the entire CFV wastes space. Type your vote of YES or NO for each group on the line for that group. If you do not wish to vote for a group, simply leave that line alone. You need not worry about quoting characters which your mailer inserts. Please type YES or NO, not Y, N, or X. The votes are tabulated by a program, and a valid vote is defined as the word YES or NO on the same line as the name of the group. You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome. Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge- ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again. It is your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly. Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list. -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- rec.games.miniatures reorg Ballot (Don't remove this marker) Please give your real name here: [Your Vote] Group ----------------------------------------------------------------------- [ ] rec.games.miniatures.historical [ ] rec.games.miniatures.misc (replaces rec.games.miniatures) [ ] rec.games.miniatures.warhammer -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- rec.games.miniatures reorg Bounce List - No need to revote ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ftgordon!damour@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu Christopher D. Damour RPHuey@aol.com Robert Huey tek@ficus.CS.UCLA.EDU Ted Kim zephyn@bermuda.io.com Keith Peyton