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Frequently Asked Questions list (1/9) for
       "Mad About You"  and the
  Usenet newsgroup alt.tv.mad-about-you

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This Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) list for the TV Comedy show
"Mad About You" is, as a collection of information,
Copyright (c) 1994-1997 by Ramaswamy [ramax@ultranet.com].
All Rights Reserved.

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Sections with updates will be flagged with asterisks (*) in the
Main Table Of Contents below. Almost all sections have
updates in this re-organized document, hence none is flagged.

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Please send in corrections/comments to: [ramax@ultranet.com]

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Main Table of Contents

  Credits

  Introduction

  1.0     What is MAY?

    1.1   How many seasons of MAY are there?
    1.2   How do I find the title of a MAY episode?
    1.3   Where can I find all the episode titles and numbers?
    1.4   Where can I find the plot summary of a MAY episode?


  2.0     Who are all those characters on MAY?

    2.1   Who are the principal characters?

              Paul Buchman
              Jamie Stemple Buchman
              Lisa Stemple
              Fran Devanow
              Mark Devanow
              Jay Selby
              Ira Buchman
              Murray

    2.2   Who are the other family members?
    2.3   Who are the other supporting characters?
    2.4   What other TV shows and movies have some cast members been in?

  3.0     What do we not know about Paul and Jamie Buchman?

    3.1   When and how did Paul and Jamie meet?
    3.2   When and how did Paul and Jamie really meet?
    3.3   When and where did Jamie and Paul get married?
    3.4   Where did they go on their honeymoon?
    3.5   Where do Paul and Jamie live now?
    3.6   Where did Paul and Jamie live before they met?
    3.7   Is Paul Jewish and are the Buchmans an inter-faith couple?
    3.8   Why did Jamie quit her first job?
    3.9   What does Jamie do after quitting her job?
    3.10  What college is Jamie attending?
    3.11  Do Jamie and Paul smoke?
    3.12  Do Jamie and Paul lie often?
    3.13  Do Jamie and Paul admit mistakes?
    3.14  What was Jamie's big secret?
    3.15  What happened at the Buchman Wedding?
    3.16  What's with the Buchmans and the NYC Subway system?
    3.17  What were the Buchmans' winnings at Belmont?
    3.18  Why were the Buchmans a day early to Yoko Ono's party?
    3.19  Did time really stop for Paul and Jamie at New Year's Eve?
    3.20  What's with the fire-escape at the Buchmans' apartment?
    3.21  Did Jamie really pull off the bra-trick?
    3.22  What's with Jamie being called James and Paul Paulie?
    3.23  How do you spell Jamie?
    3.24  Are the Buchmans having kids?
    3.25  Will their baby be a boy or a girl?
    3.26  Is the depiction of Jamie's pregnancy realistic?

  4.0     Surely there are a few questions about the other characters?

    4.1   What is Murray's real name?
    4.2   What breed is Murray?
    4.3   Who is Selby and where is he now?
    4.4   Who played Ira before John Pankow?
    4.5   Who is the new actor playing Burt now?
    4.6   When did Mark Devanow first hear of Paul?
    4.7   Where is Mark Devanow now?
    4.8   Who is Lou and where is he now?
    4.9   Where has Bill Wicker gone?
    4.10  Just how many sets of parents does Jamie have?
    4.11  Did Helen Hunt ever play a Bond Girl?
    4.12  What Movie-of-the-Week did Helen Hunt star in?
    4.13  Is Lisa's shrink a man or a woman?
    4.14  Does everybody come to Riff's?
    4.15  What New York City locations are used on MAY?
    4.16  What is the time-line of the series?
    4.17  What is so-and-so's birthday?
    4.18  Are there crossovers to other TV shows?
    4.19  What is your favorite episode of MAY?
    4.20  What is your favourite character/scene/quote from MAY?
    4.21  How come there have been two clip-shows already?

  5.0     What about MAYlanguage and MAYsongs?

    5.1   What is MAYlanguage?
    5.2   What is the Theme Song and who sings it?
    5.3   What are the lyrics to the theme song?
    5.4   What are the lyrics to the Sisters' Duet?
    5.5   What was the Buchman Wedding Song?
    5.6   What are the lyrics to Susannah's Song?
    5.7   What were Paul, Mark and Ira singing at the Karaoke bar?
    5.8   What was the poem Henry Gibson recited at the Laugh In party?

  6.0     Can we pursue some MAY trivia?

  7.0     What are some of the oddities and inconsistencies in MAY?

  8.0     Where can I find some MAY production related information?

    8.1   Where is MAY produced and by whom?
    8.2   When does the production season begin and end?
    8.3   How can I get tickets to a filming session?
    8.4   What is the word from the Set?
    8.5   Where can I watch MAY outside North America?
    8.6   When did MAY enter Syndication in North America?
    8.7   Where can I get information about MAY Syndication telecasts
            in my area?
    8.8   Where can I get information about MAY satellite feeds?
    8.9   Where can I purchase tapes of MAY episodes?
    8.10  What major awards has MAY garnered?
    8.11  Where can I purchase scripts to MAY episodes?
    8.12  Where can I send in my idea/script for a MAY episode?
    8.13  Are there books about MAY or by cast members?
    8.14  Where can I buy the Buchman bed, Buchman chair etc.?
    8.15  Where can I purchase MAY T-shirts and other merchandise?

  9.0     Where can I find some Newsgroup related information?

    9.1   What is this Newsgroup all about?
    9.2   Does the cast and/or crew of MAY read this newsgroup?
    9.3   Is there a mailing list for MAY?
    9.4   Where can I find the episode guides for MAY?
    9.5   Is there a Mail Server Site?
    9.6   Are there any Anonymous FTP Sites?
    9.7   What are some of the World Wide Web (WWW) Sites for MAY?
    9.8   Are there any non-English WWW sites for MAY?
    9.9   Is there an Inter-Relay Chat (IRC) channel for MAY?
    9.10  Are there any other chat-rooms for MAY?

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Credits

  To quote William Safire from the opening section of "Quoth the Maven"
  (published by Random House, ISBN 0-679-42324-9): "Acknowledgements
  is a word that, to me, connotes grudging admission of the need to say
  thanks, or a sneaky way to avert charges of plagiarism..."
  (Oops! My 25 words are up!)

  Which may explain why this section has been renamed and relocated.

  What follows would have been credits to the people who have
  helped edit this document or have contributed new information and
  corrections to this FAQ and the accompanying Episode Guides, whether
  knowingly or unknowingly; unfortunately I can only list their names,
  in alphabetical order:

  Brandon Acker, R. G. Arens, Stacey Armstrong, David Banks,
  Gareth Beale, Charles Blair, Jonathan Bnayahu, Jennifer Bowers,
  Jackie Brady, Paige A. Brand, Stan Brown, J. A. Burdett,
  Barry Burriesci, Dottie Bybee, Catherine Chan, Dave Chapman,
  Philip Chien, Wendy J. Cholbi, Mikhail Choo W. M., Kim Clark,
  Jeffrey Connelly, Jon Alan Conrad, Sharon Crichton,
  Luiz Fernando da Silva, David DeAngelo, Brian Dearie, Nicole Devin,
  Mike Dickison, Renee Drellishak, Kelly Flores, Elisa Ghisalberti,
  Blake Girardot, Byron C. Go, Shachar Golansky, Emma Grant,
  Pam Greene, Paul Grosso, Dolf Grunbauer, Rick Haan, Adam Hennings,
  Frank van der Heijde, Jeff Heilner, Ping Huang, Philip Johnson,
  Wei-Te Kao, William Kelley, Kimmo Ketolainen, John M. Klassa,
  Torsten Kracke, Daphne Kremen, Janel le Belle, Dave LeCompte,
  Felix Lee, Beh Hong Leong, Stephan Lerchegger, Ali Lemer,
  Liron Lightwood, Lars Lindstrom, Jeffrey Mann, Jane Mellett,
  Alphonse Merino, Matt Messina, Chris Mulvihill, Lisa Murphy,
  Waltz Ng, Johan van Noordwyk, Bob O'shaughnessy, Margie O'shaughnessy,
  Andrew Palidwor, Alex Paschkes, George Pechtol, Henk Penning,
  Fernando Rodriguez Pereira, Brian Peterson, Michael W. Phelps,
  David Gregory Platt, Mark Plumb, Alexander Poropatich, Gregg Primm,
  Mick Quinn, Jean Reese, Scott Richardson, Douglas B. Robertson,
  Warren Rudman, Tina Santos, Jose Saumell, Gretchen E. Schmidt,
  Vikas Sinha, Judi Sohn, Sondra Rachel Solovay, Chris Sonnack,
  Petra Souisa, Michael Straszniczky, Carly Taylor, David Tharp,
  Justin Ting, Steven Treger, Tom Tullio, Jukka Vainio, Cindy Yan,
  Daryl Sng Tek Yean, Bryce Utting, Chaffee Vo-Vu, Andy Wild,
  Ann Winner, Tom Witelski, Rickey Wright, Kenneth Yeast, Ken Yi,
  Carol Zaleta, R. David Zobel and Lisa Eyler Zorrilla.

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Introduction

  This document includes information from episodes of all five seasons
  of "Mad About You" that have aired or are currently airing in
  North America. The reader is therefore warned that considerable
  "spoiler" information, not identified as such, may exist in these
  pages.

  The information is presented in 9 parts, containing:

  -  Introduction, episode list, and credits
  -  Character profiles and cast filmographies
  -  About the two principal characters
  -  About the rest of the cast and other matters
  -  About expressions, songs and music
  -  A few trivia questions, oddities and inconsistencies
  -  Answers to the trivia questions
  -  About the production, tickets, syndication and such, and
  -  About alt.tv.mad-about-you and other online resources.

  Guarantees cannot be made about the accuracy of any information in
  this document. If you wish to correct a point, or contribute
  information on new topics, please contact me by e-mail at
  [ramax@ultranet.com].

  Abbreviations used in this document:

     - FAQ:    Frequently Asked Questions list
     - MAY:    Mad About You
     - TOC:    Table Of Contents


  Included throughout the text are references to episodes where facts
  mentioned in this document were revealed; these episode numbers are
  from the Mad About You Episode Guides (section 9.4).
  The numbers are listed in square brackets [ ] after a reference.
  Consult these guides for titles, synopses and guest characters. A list
  of all episode titles is included below (section 1.3) as a quick
  reference.

  Please do not send individual requests to me for copies of this FAQ.
  This document, as well as the associated Episode Guides, can be
  retrieved with a request to a Mail Server site (section 9.5).
  A reminder notice on how to access this FAQ via anonymous FTP or
  on the Web is posted periodically to the alt.tv.mad-about-you
  newsgroup.

  Newcomers to the alt.tv.mad-about-you newsgroup may
  wish to read section 9 of this document first for more information
  about the newsgroup and associated online resources.

  Newcomers to Usenet in general are advised to visit the
  news.announce.newusers newsgroup first and read references
  posted every few days by Mark Moraes in his "Welcome to Usenet!"
  post. If nothing else, the exercise will familiarize one with the
  workings of the mail server.

  The date of the last update and the current version number is shown at
  the top of this document. Updated sections are flagged by an asterisk
  (*) in the Main Table Of Contents (to be found in part1, with
  references from all other parts) and the Local TOC, as relevant;
  updates are not marked by change-bars ( | ) at the left margin.
  All the deletions are indicated by, well, deletions.

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1.0     What is MAY?

  MAY is a half-hour television comedy show currently airing in its
  fifth season in North America on the NBC Television network at 8:00pm
  (7:00pm in some time-zones) on Tuesdays. The telecast is rated PG.

  It premiered on Wednesday September 23, 1992 at 9:30pm, and was
  telecast first on Wednesdays and then Saturdays in its first season,
  before settling into the Thursday 8:00pm time-slot during reruns in
  late summer of 1993. Episodes of seasons #2 and #3 were telecast on
  Thursdays at 8:00pm. For season #4 MAY was moved to Sundays at 8:00pm
  and now in season #5 it is airing on Tuesdays. Individual episodes are
  half-hour long with 3 commercial interruptions, and about 22 and a
  half minutes otherwise (double that for 2-parters airing together).

  MAY is the story of a newly-wed couple, Paul and Jamie Buchman,
  adjusting to their daily life together in Lower Manhattan, in
  New York City. Other characters in their lives are Jamie's sister
  Lisa and best friend Fran (and Fran's ex-husband Mark), Paul's
  cousin Ira and college buddy Selby (season #1), and both sets of
  parents. Paul's dog Murray is also featured prominently.

  MAY was created by Paul Reiser and Danny Jacobson and is produced
  jointly by their production companies (Nuance Productions and InFront
  Productions) and distributed by TriStar Television (section 8.1),
  a division of Sony Pictures Entertainment.

  As Executive Producer, Danny Jacobson was in-charge of the day-to-day
  running and production of the show during the first 4 seasons. Among
  his earlier TV credits are "My Sister Sam," "Davis Rules" and
  the first two seasons of "Roseanne." As of season #5, Larry Charles
  and Paul Reiser share the Executive Producer duties, though Danny
  Jacobson continues to be listed as such in the opening credits.

  MAY was originally pitched to NBC by Paul Reiser as "Thirtysomething,
  only shorter and funnier." After co-starring with Greg Evigan in
  "My Two Dads" for three years, he decided to do an intelligent
  comedy for adults by considering what it should NOT be. He did not
  want the show to be an odd-couple mixing, with interplay between
  wacky characters, or one of those "are they going to get together
  or not?" gimmicks. By stripping away all the things it could not be,
  he got it down to its bare essence, a very low concept show about a
  marriage. Thus MAY is "scenes from a marriage" that has nothing
  to do with Ingmar Bergman.

  The early episodes of MAY were put together by the group of people
  responsible for the Off-Broadway production (in New York City) of
  "Grease." Danny Jacobson switched then from acting to writing
  and teamed up with Paul Reiser, Jeffrey Lane (first 3 seasons),
  Steve Paymer (first 2 seasons), Billy Grundfest (first 4 seasons)
  and a host of other writers on MAY. The writing is always a
  collaborative effort, and the 'written by' credit for an episode
  goes to the person(s) doing the first draft; the rest of the team
  hides behind exotic titles such as Co-Executive Producer, Supervising
  Producer, Producer, Story Editor and such. As of season #5, Helen
  Hunt is credited as Producer, although her off-camera contribution
  has been known to be significant all along.

  Richard Hissong in seasons #1 and #2, Mikel Neiers in season #3
  and Bobby Byrne since season #4 have supervised the filming, while
  Craig Knizek (Associate Producer, then Co-Producer) and Sheila Amos
  (Editor) have been responsible for post-production. Peter Damski
  and his team has handled sound processing all along with impressive
  results, including 2 Emmy awards.

1.1    How many seasons of MAY are there?

  MAY is currently in its fifth season of production. The production
  season typically runs from August to April. In the US, first-run
  telecasts on the NBC Television Network run from September to May.

  The five seasons, as telecast in North America, are:

  1.  1992-93  (22 episodes)
  2.  1993-94  (24 episodes, including a 2-part Finale)
  3.  1994-95  (23 episodes, including a 2-part Wedding,
                               a 2-part Finale, and a Montage
                               shown early in season #4)
  4.  1995-96  (22 episodes, including a 2-part Finale)
  5.  1996-97  (23 episodes are planned, including a 2-part Finale)

  The original contract for the show was for 5 seasons, extended to a
  sixth season during season #4. Some confusion arose at the end of that
  season because the last 3 episodes were entitled "Finale Parts I, II
  and III," but MAY is continuing with season #5 now.

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1.2    How do I find the title of a MAY episode?

  Unfortunately the MAY telecasts themselves do not show the episode
  title anywhere (with 2 exceptions so far), nor the 3-digit production
  number in the closing credits. On occasion TV Guide will list the
  title, as will the weekly TV schedule inserts of local Sunday papers.
  Satellite feeds for episodes always feature an opening slate that
  includes the episode production number and its title. The SONY and 
  NBC WWW sites also list titles and synopses of upcoming episodes.

  If the print or online sources fail you, your best bet is to post an
  inquiry to the alt.tv.mad-about-you newsgroup. To identify older
  episodes, you may want to check the synopses and keys sections of
  entries in the MAY Episode Guides.

  The episode numbering scheme used in this FAQ and the guides is mine,
  and assigns the number in the order of telecast in North America,
  season by season. It also assigns a single number to 2-part shows
  that have 2 production numbers.

1.3    Where can I find all the episode titles and numbers?

  The following is a list of all MAY episodes that have aired so far
  (and those about to air, flagged by an asterisk), along with the
  production numbers in parentheses and the first-telecast dates in
  North America. This list is provided primarily to help identify the
  episodes referred to in the rest of this FAQ, but production numbers
  sometimes also determine the order of telecast in some countries
  (Austria, Finland and Malaysia, for example):

  1.1  (101)   92-09-23   Romantic Improvisations [Premiere]
  1.2  (104)   92-09-30   Sofa's Choice
  1.3  (103)   92-10-07   Sunday Times
  1.4  (102)   92-10-14   Out of the Past
  1.5  (106)   92-10-21   Paul in the Family
  1.6  (105)   92-10-28   I'm Just So Happy For You
  1.7  (107)   92-11-04   Token Friend
  1.8  (109)   92-11-11   The Apartment
  1.9  (111)   92-11-18   Riding Backwards
  1.10 (110)   92-11-25   Neighbors from Hell
  1.11 (113)   92-12-16   Met Someone
  1.12 (108)   93-01-06   Maid About You
  1.13 (112)   93-01-13   Togetherness
  1.14 (116)   93-01-27   Weekend Getaway
  1.15 (115)   93-02-06   The Wedding Affair
  1.16 (114)   93-02-13   Love Among the Tiles
  1.17 (118)   93-02-20   The Billionaire
  1.18 (119)   93-02-27   The Man Who Said Hello
  1.19 (117)   93-04-30   Swept Away
  1.20 (120)   93-05-08   The Spy Who Loved Me
  1.21 (122)   93-05-15   The Painter
  1.22 (121)   93-05-22   Happy Anniversary [Season Finale]

  2.1  (202)   93-09-16   Murray's Tale [Season Opener]
  2.2  (201)   93-09-23   Bing Bang Boom
  2.3  (203)   93-09-30   Bedfellows
  2.4  (205)   93-10-07   Married to the Job
  2.5  (204)   93-10-14   So I Married a Hair Murderer
  2.6  (207)   93-10-28   The Unplanned Child
  2.7  (206)   93-11-04   Natural History
  2.8  (209)   93-11-11   Surprise
  2.9  (210)   93-11-18   A Pair Of Hearts
  2.10 (208)   93-12-02   It's a Wrap
  2.11 (211)   93-12-09   Edna Returns
  2.12 (212)   94-01-06   Paul is Dead
  2.13 (213)   94-01-13   Same Time Next Week
  2.14 (214)   94-01-27   The Late Show
  2.15 (216)   94-02-03   Virtual Reality
  2.16 (218)   94-02-10   Cold Feet
  2.17 (215)   94-02-14   Instant Karma
  2.18 (217)   94-02-24   The Tape
  2.19 (219)   94-03-10   Love Letters
  2.20 (220)   94-04-07   The Last Scampi
  2.21 (222)   94-04-28   Disorientation
  2.22 (221)   94-05-05   Storms We Cannot Weather
  2.23 (225)   94-05-12   Up All Night
  2.24 (223/4) 94-05-19   With This Ring [Season Finale]

  3.1  (301)   94-09-22   Escape from New York [Season Opener]
  3.2  (302)   94-09-29   Home
  3.3  (303)   94-10-06   Till Death Do Us Part
  3.4  (304)   94-10-13   When I'm Sixty-Four
  3.5  (305)   94-10-20   Legacy
  3.6  (306)   94-11-03   Pandora's Box
  3.7  (307)   94-11-10   The Ride Home
  3.8  (308)   94-11-17   Giblets For Murray
  3.9  (309)   94-12-08   Once More With Feeling
  3.10 (310)   94-12-15   The City
  3.11 (311)   95-01-05   Our Fifteen Minutes
  3.12 (313)   95-01-19   How To Fall In Love
  3.13 (314/5) 95-02-02   Mad About You
  3.14 (312)   95-02-09   Just My Dog
  3.15 (316)   95-02-16   The Alan Brady Show
  3.16 (317)   95-02-23   Mad Without You
  3.17 (318)   95-03-09   Purseona
  3.18 (319)   95-03-30   Two Tickets To Paradise
  3.19 (323)   95-04-27   Money Changes Everything
  3.20 (321)   95-05-04   Cake Fear
  3.21 (320)   95-05-11   My Boyfriend's Back!
  3.22 (322/4) 95-05-18   Up In Smoke [Season Finale]
  3.23 (325)   95-10-08   The Test [A Montage]

  4.1  (401)   95-09-24   New Sleep-walking PLUS [Season Opener]
  4.2  (402)   95-10-01   The Parking Space
  4.3  (403)   95-10-29   The Good, the Bad and the Not-So-Appealing
  4.4  (404)   95-11-05   I Don't See It
  4.5  (405)   95-11-12   Yoko Said
  4.6  (406)   95-11-19   An Angel For Murray
  4.7  (407)   95-11-26   The Couple
  4.8  (408)   95-12-17   New Year's Eve
  4.9  (409)   96-01-07   Ovulation Day
  4.10 (410)   96-01-14   Get Back
  4.11 (411)   96-02-04   Dream Weaver
  4.12 (413)   96-02-18   Hot and Cold
  4.13 (414)   96-02-25   Fertility
  4.14 (412)   96-03-10   Everybody Hates Me
  4.15 (415)   96-03-17   Do Me A Favor
  4.16 (416)   96-03-24   The Glue People
  4.17 (417)   96-03-31   The Sample
  4.18 (418)   96-04-14   The Procedure
  4.19 (419)   96-04-21   The Weed
  4.20 (420)   96-04-28   The Award
  4.21 (421)   96-05-05   The Finale (Part I)
  4.22 (422/3) 96-05-19   The Finale (Parts II & III) [Season Finale]

  5.1  (501)   96-09-17   Dr. Wonderful [Season Opener]
  5.2  (502)   96-09-24   The Grant
  5.3  (503)   96-10-15   Therapy
  5.4  (506)   96-10-22   The Clip Show
  5.5  (507)   96-10-29   Burt's Building
  5.6  (504)   96-11-12   Jamie's Parents [100th episode]
  5.7  (508)   96-11-19   Outbreak
  5.8  (510)   96-11-26   Every Good Boy Deserves Fudge
  5.9  (505)   96-12-17   The Gym
  5.10 (509)   97-01-07   Chicken Man
  5.11 (511)   97-01-14   The Recital
  5.12 (512)   97-01-21   The Handyman
  5.13 (515)  *97-02-04   Astrology
  5.14 (514)  *97-02-11   The Penis
  5.15 (513)  *97-02-18   Citizen Buchman
  5.16 (516)  *97-02-25   On The Road

  (*) - Dates and order of telecasts subject to change without notice.


1.4    Where can I find the plot summary of a MAY episode?

  Only a 3-4 line synopsis and a few keys are noted for each episode
  in the MAY episode guides. No detailed summaries are available
  online, as far as can be determined. If you come across an online
  archive, please let me know the URL by e-mail at [ramax@ultranet.com].

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Please send in corrections/comments to: [ramax@ultranet.com]

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