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  REC.NUDE FAQ Part 3 of 5: The Newsgroup Itself - REV:  1-Jan-08
  Maintainer - Dennis Kirkpatrick -

  ** Rec.Nude is NOT Google Groups.  Google Groups is an interface
  that can access Usenet Newsgroups (of which rec.nude is a part)
  as well as Google's own private groups.  If you are reading this
  file from Google Groups, please take a moment to educate yourself.
  See this FAQ Part 1, Section 1.

  This part of the rec.nude FAQ introduces the concept of naturism and
  answers many questions about naturism.

  Table of Contents:

  1.      Naturist Etiquette

  2.      Taking The Plunge

  2.1.    Find a site

  2.2.    Don't go alone

  2.3.    Review Naturist Etiquette

  2.4.    Come prepared

  2.5.    Allow plenty of time

  2.6.    Make sure to pay fees, obtain permits, etc.

  2.7.    Relax!

  3.      Naturist Glossary

  4.      What's the difference between "naturism" and "nudism"?

  5.      What's the difference between "nude" and "naked"?

  6.      Endmatter

  6.1.    Revision History

  1.  Naturist Etiquette

      These are some generally accepted rules of Naturist Etiquette.

  o  Stay Out of the Dunes and other environmentally sensitive areas.

  o  Obey Parking Regulations and other posted rules.

  o  Help With Litter - bring along a trash bag. Carry out more litter
     than you create.

  o  Don't Go Out of Established Nude Areas. To wander nude into a
     clothed beach or parking area will offend many.

  o  No Overt Sexual Activity. Leave exhibitionism to those attending
     clothed beaches.

  o  Respect the Property of Others.

  o  Ask Prior Consent For Photography.

  o  Privacy Is Fundamental. Many are at a club or beach for quiet time.
     Body language should tell you they don't want to be disturbed. It's
     not wrong to look for new friends - but it is rude to intrude when
     you're unwelcome.

  o  Come Prepared. Bring beach supplies: beverage, food, sunscreen,
     towel. Mooching is not a cool way to make friends.

  o  Speak Up for Standards. Don't let some newcomer who doesn't
     understand the situation or our values cause trouble. Instead of
     doing a slow burn, go talk, politely but firmly, to the couple
     starting sexual activity, the can-tosser, the wanderer into the

  This list comes to us courtesy of the Naturist Society.=20

  2.  Taking The Plunge

  If you've read this far, you're probably interested in trying naturism
  for yourself. Here are some tips for making your first naturist
  experience as painless and enjoyable as possible:

  2.1.  Find a site

  The best way to do this is to find an organization in your area and
  ask for information. The readers of rec.nude can be of great
  assistance in this area, as can parts II and III of this FAQ.  Another
  possibility is to use an internet search engine but the buyer should be
  aware that on occasion a site listing may be wishful thinking as opposed
  to firm information of a regularly used and tolerated area.  A good rule
  of thumb is to visit more than once and determine the habits of those=20
  appearing to be regular or frequent users asthis will help assure a lack=
  of hassle to yourself

  When contacting an organization by mail, remember to include a self-=20
  addressed stamped envelope for the reply - it's polite and saves much-
  needed funds.) As we said earlier, you might prefer a private facility
  for your first time - or you might not. It's up to you.

  When contacting via e-mail, allow for some response time.  Surprisingly,
  but then again maybe not, some naturist web sites and mail addresses are=
  only maintained and checked seasonally, so message sin the winter may go=

  2.2.  Don't go alone

  If you're married, by all means take your spouse. If not, take a
  friend of either gender. You can go alone if you want, but you'll
  probably enjoy the experience a lot more with some companionship.
  (Also, you should know that some private naturist facilities will not
  admit single visitors - generally, this policy is applied to men more
  than to women. And many facilities frown upon one-half of a married
  couple attending alone. These are old attitudes which are starting to
  change, but they remain in some cases.)

  2.3.  Review Naturist Etiquette

  Naturism is built on respect - for fellow naturists, for non-
  naturists, and for the environment. Naturists have a few simple rules
  of etiquette; read them, and remember that the respect is mutual. See
  "Naturist Etiquette" above.

  2.4.  Come prepared

  Bring a towel, a good sunscreen (SPF 15+), reading material,
  sunglasses, food & beverage, etc., especially if you're heading into a
  remote area. You will not want to dress to return to your car, so make
  sure you don't forget anything! (And remember to take your trash out
  with you!)

  2.5.  Allow plenty of time

  You're not going to want to leave!  So it's best to devote a day or
  more to your trip. Give yourself time to enjoy the experience!

  2.6.  Make sure to pay fees, obtain permits, etc.

  If you're heading into the wilderness of a national forest, for
  example, you may need a Back-country Permit. Don't let legal
  technicalities ruin your enjoyment.

  2.7.  Relax!

  You are about to have one of the greatest experiences of your life!
  Don't worry about it!

  When you arrive at your site, you should make yourself comfortable.
  This may mean not removing all your clothing at once.  That's OK. Just
  make sure you're comfortable and that you appear comfortable. Relax
  and enjoy the experience - don't be tense and edgy.

  Once you are comfortably nude and enjoying yourself, it's easy to be
  friendly and approachable. Don't just sit off in a corner by yourself
  - walk around, chat, etc. If people don't want to talk to you, you'll
  notice, but a lot of naturists are very friendly and enjoy meeting new
  people. Go for it!

  Congratulations! You're a naturist! (And it didn't kill you!)  Do you
  see how good it feels? You're already making plans to come back,
  aren't you?

  3.  Naturist Glossary

  Following are some terms, abbreviations, and other things you might
  run into in your naturist experiences.

        American Association for Nude Recreation <>.
        A national naturist organization of North America.

        The AANR Government Affairs Team.  A committee within AANR that
        oversees the relationship of AANR to government and observes
        changes to legislation that may have an impact on naturism.

        "Administrative". Put in the subject of rec.nude messages to
        indicate that the topic is administrative - discussions about
        the newsgroup itself, rather than discussions about naturism.
        These posts are supposed to be kept to a minimum. :-)=20

        American Sunbathing Association, the former name of what is now
        "AANR". <>

     The Bulletin
        The monthly news type tabloid-style publication of "AANR".

        Canoeing while nude, a popular naturist activity.

        British Naturism
        A national naturist organization of Great Britain.

        "Clothing optional."

        Eastern Naturist Gathering. See "Naturist Gathering".

     ESA  (a.k.a AANR-East)
        Eastern Sunbathing Association. The eastern regional subdivision
        of "AANR".  Now called =B3AANR-East=B2

        Florida Association for Nude Recreation. The Florida regional
        subdivision of "AANR".

        Federation of Canadian Naturists <>. A
        national naturist organization of English-speaking Canada.

        Federation Quebecoise de Naturisme. A national naturist
        organization of French-speaking Canada.

        Frei Korper Kultur. A German term for naturism.

     IMO, IMHO
        "In My (Humble/Honest) Opinion".

        The International Naturist Federation, an international
        organization of national naturist organizations (e.g. "AANR",
        "TNS", "FCN", etc.) INF's member organizations serve a
        majority of the world's nations.

        Midwestern Sunbathing Association. The midwestern regional
        subdivision of "AANR".

     N =20
        Nude & Natural, the quarterly magazine of "TNS". May also simply
        be an abbreviation for =B3nude=B2.

        Naturist Action Committee <>
        The political action arm of "TNS".

        One who studies nature. Although naturalists may be
        "naturists", and vice versa, the two are not fundamentally
        related. Asking naturalist questions on rec.nude will make you
        look silly, unless they are also naturist questions. :-)

        See "Nudist".

     Naturist Gathering
        (as in "Eastern Naturist Gathering") One of several annual
        regional meetings of naturists organized by "TNS". Three or
        four are typically held each year (one in mid-winter, the rest
        in summer), in various parts of the country. Naturists converge
        at these events to meet, greet, participate in activities,
        listen to talks, and have fun.

     Naturist Festival
        Often regional meetings of naturists semi-sponsored by national
        organizations but otherwise organized by local or regional naturist=

        Naturist Education Foundation <>
        The educational arm of "TNS".

        "Nude In Front Of Computer".

     North American Park Guide
        A publication by AANR which lists its affiliated nudist resorts
        and non-landed associations of people

        Indicating a group of naturists/nudists that are organized but=20
        which does not operate a nudist park or resort, ie not gathering=20
        on privately owned land of their own.

        See "Naturist".

        "Obligatory Nude". Used by some rec.nude readers to introduce an
        on-topic statement following an off-topic statement.

     RNEO  (depreciated)
        Rec.Nude Eyes Only. A spam defeating acronym.  When placed at the
        beginning of a subject line it allows readers to easily locate=20
        on-topic messages. replies under "RE: RNEO...."  It may also be=20
        used in conjunction with news program filters or search services=20
        as an aid to locating topical material in the newsgroup.
        (Removed from the FAQ file 1-Jul-02)

        Significant Other. A spouse, partner, boyfriend/girlfriend, etc.

        Southwestern Sunbathing Association. The southwestern regional
        subdivision of "AANR".

        In naturist parlance, a G-string style swimsuit which exposes
        the buttocks. Wearing only a thong is the next best thing to
        being nude, in some naturists' minds.

        The Naturist Society <>. An
        international naturist organization based in the United States.

        Lacking a top. What a non-naturist calls "topless", a naturist
        calls "topfree"; the "-less" suffix implies that something
        important is missing, while the "-free" suffix implies a lack of
        improper additions, such as a foreign piece of clothing. (Also,
        "topless" is commonly associated with strip bars and other
        commercial exploitation of nudity. "Topfree" has no known
        negative connotations.)

     Travel Club
        (depreciated term) See:  "non-Landed"

        Western Naturist Gathering. See "Naturist Gathering".

     WSA  (a.k.a. AANR-West)
        Western Sunbathing Association. The western regional subdivision
        of "AANR".

     World Guide
        The World Guide to Nude Beaches and Resorts
        At <> now by TNS.
        A very good and oft-quoted guide to naturist locations worldwide.
        Published by "TNS".

  Note: Don't use the term "nudist colony." Most modern naturists
  consider this term to be pejorative. Naturists live normally among the
  rest of society, not in isolated "colonies." Instead, refer to
  nudist/naturist beaches, campgrounds, parks, clubs, resorts, etc.

  4.  What's the difference between "naturism" and "nudism"?

  Some people make distinctions between "naturists" and "nudists."  To
  some people the differences (whatever they perceive them to be) are
  quite important, but many people use the terms interchangeably today.
  When asked to use one or the other, I usually call myself a "naturist"
  because I like the association of that word with "natural". (However,
  in actuality I prefer neither term - I'd rather be known as "a regular
  guy who likes to be nude.")

  The rest of this section, contributed by Durand Stieger, goes into
  more detail (more than I did, anyway) about the differences between
  "naturists" and "nudists." Please note that I have not edited Durand's
  words - any opinions expressed are his, although I agree with much of
  what he has to say.

  While nudism has long been defined in dictionaries, naturism has not.
  Indeed, the word "naturist" is only recently beginning to be added. In
  the USA today, the words nudism and naturism may be best defined by
  the two principal organizations representing these "-ism's": the
  American Association for Nude Recreation (AANR) and The Naturist
  Society (TNS). Both organizations believe in the essential
  wholesomeness, naturalness, and healthfulness of social nudity. AANR
  has, since its beginning as the American Sunbathing Association (ASA),
  represented nudists on private property -- generally at its privately-
  owned nudist campgrounds and resorts -- and expects its members to be
  "clothed when practical, unclothed when possible." TNS has been the
  primary champion of clothing-optional use of appropriate public lands.
  And both organizations have some areas of overlap, both in activities
  and membership.

  However, most of us wonder less about the "-ism's" and more about the
  differences, if any, between nudist and naturist -- and, more
  particularly: which should we consider ourself to be? Nudist and
  naturist can perhaps best be defined by their stereotypes, both of
  which relate to their typical environments. Of course, all nudists and
  naturists have that common belief in the essential wholesomeness,
  naturalness, and healthfulness of social nudity.

  The stereotypical nudist prefers to enjoy social nudity at enclosed
  private-property sites, safe from prying eyes or harassment from the
  law. She enjoys use of the facilities and amenities which these
  campgrounds and resorts provide. She prefers organizational structure
  -- if not to participate in, then at least for the rules and
  regulations afforded. And she enjoys the social structure and
  activities which many private sites provide.

  The stereotypical naturist prefers to commune with nature in the open
  outdoors -- e.g., at a lake, stream, beach, or wilderness setting --
  without the feeling of being enclosed behind tall fences. She needs
  few, if any, facilities or amenities -- preferring, instead, an
  undisturbed natural setting. She wants no organizational structure,
  thank you, nor any list of rules or regulations imposed on her (beyond
  basic beach etiquette, that is). And she needs no social structure or
  activities; if there are some friends to visit with, that's fine, but
  it's also fine to be alone or with just a companion or two. Further,
  since the stereotypical naturist usually uses public lands for her
  nude recreation, she realizes that these clothing-optional areas may
  have clothed users as well.

  Many of us nude recreators do not entirely match either above
  stereotype; instead, we are somewhere along the continuum between
  these two (and even extending somewhat beyond each). For example, if
  half the time you prefer a naturist site on a beach or stream, while
  the other half you prefer nudist activities at a resort with
  amenities, then you are about halfway between these two on that

  Before Lee Baxandall formed The Naturist Society, "naturist" was the
  European equivalent to the American word "nudist" (as in the
  International Naturist Federation, the international nudist
  organization headquartered in Europe). Americans formerly known as
  "free beachers," or just "skinny-dippers," overnight became
  "naturists" -- when Lee then pulled the term out from under the
  nudists and gave it new meaning in America. The former free beachers
  readily adopted the new term, particularly as it emphasized the
  aspects of "nature" and "natural" so dear to free beachers.

  There are those of us who believe that the use of two different labels
  for us, nudist and naturist, is divisive -- and that we are really all
  pretty much the same, so we should treat the two terms as synonymous.
  While they are entitled to their synonymous-view opinion, they should
  not take umbrage when others wish to use the two terms separately --
  in reference to organizational and/or philosophical denotations.
  Perhaps when the day arrives that AANR and TNS are either no longer
  needed or have identical objectives, then a common label will suit

  Thus, each of us is free to choose whatever label for ourself that we
  like best. Nudist, naturist, skinny-dipper, free beacher -- whatever
  -- and we are free to use one label at one time and another at another
  time, as our mood fancies. Some Naturists also see purpose to
  considering Naturism as a belief, to be respected and afforded
  protections, and these people (plus those of us who wish to show
  respect for this view) use Naturist and Naturism in their capitalized

  Almost every adult in America knows (or think they know) what "nudist"
  means, while very few know what "naturist" means. However, it is far
  better and more accurate for us to identify ourselves as naturists as
  we influence the public toward tolerance of appropriate clothing-
  optional areas on public lands.

  It is also vital that we steadfastly maintain, to ourselves and the
  public, that overt sexual activity has nothing whatever to do with
  naturism or nudism. A common public myth is that social nudity
  involves or promotes sexual activity. And we also know that some
  individuals and businesses, with sexual agendas of their own, see us
  as a nude, liberal-minded, meat-market hunting ground for their own
  purposes. Indeed, some swingers and others with sexual agendas have
  infiltrated into our organizations -- and some businesses, promoting
  or allowing sexual activity, have masqueraded as nudist/naturist
  businesses. These are cancers and must be removed; they are not us,
  they hurt us, and they should never be considered part of us. We
  cannot tolerate even a few.

  5.  What's the difference between "nude" and "naked"?

  Some people point out a difference between the words "nude" and
  "naked." The point made is that the formal definition of "naked"
  implies that something normal is missing or that something
  abnormal/improper is happening, while "nude" has no such connotation
  (see "topfree" above.) I use "nude" most of the time for this
  reason. (But, as with "naturist" vs. "nudist", other people disagree
  and think "naked" is preferable, and still other people see absolutely
  no difference between the two. To each his/her own.)

  6.  Endmatter

  Copyright 1998-2008 - Dennis Kirkpatrick
  All rights reserved.  <>
  Contributions to this FAQ have been added by numerous persons since the=
  rec.nude newsgroup was founded.  This includes the various FAQ maintainer=
  and newsgroups users as well.  This body stands as a compilation of these
  efforts over time and serves as both newsgroup charter and FAQ.

  While every precaution has been taken in the preparation of this
  document, the publisher assumes no responsibility for errors or
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  6.1.  Revision History

  This document will carry a revision history by date.  Any time a change i=
  made to any of the five sections of this FAQ the revision date will chang=
  on each section to reflect the revision date of the FAQ as a whole.  The
  revision dates will be carried in last to first order with the most recen=
  change at the top of the document.  This will allow readers to know when
  the FAQ was last updated.

  Revision  1-Jan-08 -Updated various segments to current standards.
  Revision 31-Mar-07 -Updated various sections to current requirements.
                      Removed as safe repository for FAQ.
  Revision 10-Oct-05 -Updated various sections to current requirements.
  Revision 16-Aug-03 -Updated link to Prodigy Message Board & other updates
  Revision  1-Jul-02 -Issued various corrections & updates as noted within.
  Revision  1-Nov-01 -Various updates to links and addresses.
  Revision  5-Mar-00 -Updated various web links to current requirements.
  Revision  1-Sep-99 -Updated listings for AOL, Compuserve, Prodigy, and
                      other reference material as necessary and submitted
                      by newsgroup users. Parts 1, 4 and 5 effected.
  Revision  1-Aug-98 -Updated Posting Locations of FAQ and various URL
  Revision  1-Jul-98 -Added FTP locations for FAQ.
  Revision 31-May 98 -Added HTML locations for FAQ and other link updates.
  Revision 15-May-98 -Changed information for the Nude Travel section on
                      the AOL system in Part 5 of the FAQ.
  Revision 21-Mar-98 -Corrected URL for Fed de Quebecoise de Naturisme
  Revision  1-Mar-98 -Adjusted 4 part FAQ into 5 to conform with limits of
                      web browser sizing.
  Revision 1-Feb-98 - Carried over from previous FAQ maintainer and updated
                      FAQ maintainer contact info and some access info
                      regarding the AOL Naturist/Nudist posting areas.

  Revisions Prior to January 1998 not documented.

  Please do not e-mail the FAQ maintainer with questions that may otherwise
  be answered in the newsgroup FAQ or the associated Beaches FAQ.

D. M. Kirkpatrick
FAQ & Charter Maintainer - Newsgroup: REC.NUDE

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