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		Contents

[0]. Is there a Reggae Archives on the Internet?
[1]. Dub Recommendations
[2]. Can anyone recommend some books on reggae?
[3]. What is "Dub" music anyway?
[4]. Can anyone recommend some roots reggae?
[5]. Live reggae recording recommendations
[6]. Who was Marcus Garvey?
[7]. Can you recommend some Dancehall?
[8]. Is there a newsgroup that caters to those of us who enjoy soca, zouk, 
[9]. Books on Rastafarianism?
[10]. What are the different reggae styles?
[11]. Can anyone give me some info on the rasta culture?
[12]. Could anyone out there suggest to me any albums which combine reggae and
      jazz?
[13]. What is the significance of the "Two Sevens"?
[14]. What's all this about Sound Systems, Clashes and Dubplates?
[15]. Are there World Wide Web Sites for Reggae?
[16]. What is RAW (Reggae Ambassadors Worldwide)?
[17]. Why do purists look down on UB40?
[18]. Can anyone recommend good female reggae vocalists (not dancehall). ?
[19]. Please give an explanation of "One Drop" Style
[20]. What are some reggae videos?
[21]. What is a good way to find concert information?
[22]. Where can I find some information about dreadlocks?
[23]. Why shouldn't I post pictures or sounds to rec.music.reggae?
[24]. Where can I find lyrics on the Internet?
[25]. Where can I find information about Reggae Clubs?
[26]. Where can I find information about Reggae Shops?
[27]. Where can I get an RSS news feed about reggae?
[28]. Where can I find Reggae podcasts?

		The Questions and Answers

[0]. Is there a Reggae Archives on the Internet?

The Jammin Reggae Archives is the gateway to reggae music on the Internet, it 
can be accessed on the Internet at http://niceup.com. At the archives you can 
get the latest news, listen to samples from recent releases, listen to a one 
hour weekly webcast available 24/7, find dates for festivals and tour 
schedules, find links to all kinds of sites related to reggae music, read 
reviews of recent releases and access all kinds of reggae music information 
such as biographies, charts, playlists, discographies, clubs, shops and much 
more.
						
[1]. Dub Recommendations

Ok, here's a FAQ if I ever saw one:

GIMME SOME DUB POINTERS! 

I've been there a bit already - got some LKJ, Agustus Pablo, 
Lee Perry, Upsetters, but I have yet to find the really mind
searing spaced out heavy dub that I hear hints of once in awhile. 
I want loads of echo, pans and sounds like the universe is
being ripped apart at the seams in front of me. Skip the drum
machines unless they're very tastefully done, lay on the heavy
bass and crank up the volume, kick back and close your eyes...

Help me find it! My last try was ROIR's TOWERING DUB INFERNO 
and only a couple of tracks get close to as heavy as I'd hoped. 

I keep getting pointers to African Headcharge, but that stuff is
very steeply priced - is it worth it? 

  - malcolm  

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In article <malcolm.725007752@wrs.com> malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes) writes:
>...but I have yet to find the really mind
>searing spaced out heavy dub that I hear hints of once in awhile. 
>I want loads of echo, pans and sounds like the universe is
>being ripped apart at the seams in front of me


Two words: Mad Professor


>I keep getting pointers to African Headcharge, but that stuff is
>very steeply priced - is it worth it? 

Yes.  The best stuff from their first four albums is out on two discs,
titles I can't remember (they'll be obvious, though, they have "volume 1"
and "volume 2" in the title).  Also the CD _Songs of Praise_ is excellent,
although it's not as twisted as the early stuff; it's more African in 
an On-U sort of way than spaced out in an On-U sort of way.

You are also required to have much Prince Far I within easy reach at all times.

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In article <malcolm.725007752@wrs.com> malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes) writes:
>Ok, here's a FAQ if I ever saw one:
>
>GIMME SOME DUB POINTERS! 
>
>I've been there a bit already - got some LKJ, Agustus Pablo, 
>Lee Perry, Upsetters, but I have yet to find the really mind
>searing spaced out heavy dub that I hear hints of once in awhile. 

I had a Prince Fari LP in New Zealand which seems to fit the bill - had to
leave it with a friend as a parting gift since he was so in tune with
it. Sorry, can't recall the name now! (it had a track called "Plant Up"
which I was really into). Also try some Mad Professor albums.

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rfrance@umiacs.umd.edu (Robert B France) writes:

>In article <malcolm.725007752@wrs.com> malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes) writes:
>>Ok, here's a FAQ if I ever saw one:
>>
>>GIMME SOME DUB POINTERS! 
>>
>>I've been there a bit already - got some LKJ, Agustus Pablo, 
>>Lee Perry, Upsetters, but I have yet to find the really mind
>>searing spaced out heavy dub that I hear hints of once in awhile. 

For good spaced-out dub, try Dub Syndicate (On-U Sound).  They're hard
to find in the US - try the import or World Music section of your
local mega-store.

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malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes) writes:
>GIMME SOME DUB POINTERS! 

>Help me find it! My last try was ROIR's TOWERING DUB INFERNO 
>and only a couple of tracks get close to as heavy as I'd hoped. 

i liked TDI, but i can see what you mean... try any of the ON-U
releases like PLAYGROUP (jazzy dub) or PARTY SOUNDS 1, etc. they're
quite good. also, anything else Adrian Sherwood does by himself
seems to be great dub.

>I keep getting pointers to African Headcharge, but that stuff is
>very steeply priced - is it worth it? 

in a word, yes. it's pretty steeply priced here, maybe not at Amoeba
in Berkeley. your best bet is to write ON-U directly for better
prices. this is what a friend of mine does. i'll send you the address
via email when i get home and look on one of my ON-U cds.

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In article <malcolm.725007752@wrs.com> malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes) writes:
>Ok, here's a FAQ if I ever saw one:
>
>GIMME SOME DUB POINTERS! 
>
>I've been there a bit already - got some LKJ, Agustus Pablo, 
>Lee Perry, Upsetters, but I have yet to find the really mind
>searing spaced out heavy dub that I hear hints of once in awhile. 
>I want loads of echo, pans and sounds like the universe is
>being ripped apart at the seams in front of me. Skip the drum
>machines unless they're very tastefully done, lay on the heavy
>bass and crank up the volume, kick back and close your eyes...
>
>Help me find it! My last try was ROIR's TOWERING DUB INFERNO 
>and only a couple of tracks get close to as heavy as I'd hoped. 
>
>I keep getting pointers to African Headcharge, but that stuff is
>very steeply priced - is it worth it? 
>
>  - malcolm  

WOW!! excellent start!!!! You might try some Mad Proffesor Psychedelic Dub.
Umm let me go look... well Iroy Crisis time (any Iroy rocks but dub..)
also try more Perry, Satan's Dub, The Upsetter and The Beat, Scratch Attack..
The best dub (in my opinion) comes from bootlegs, Steel Pulse does some crazy
stuff live: maybe you've heard versions of Roller Skates nana dub style.
There are alot of flip side dubins on Bob singles.
BTW how's African Headcharge coming out???
jafari
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Here are some things to look for from the discography in the back of
Jon Savage's _England's Dreaming: Anarchy, Sex Pistols, Punk Rock, and
Beyond_.  He also says that Steve Barrow is working on what should be
the definitive book on Reggae and Dub (looks like nothing available
yet).  (Most of this is Dub, since that's what I'm most interested in
hearing, I think.)

Aggrovators (mixed by King Tubby)
  Johnny in the Echo Chamber               1989   Atlantic
  Dub Justice                              1990   ATLP

Collections/Compilations
  The Harder They Come                     1972   Island       soundtrack
  King Tubby Meets the Upsetter at the
    Grass Roots of Dub                     1976   Fay Music
  Keep On Coming Through the Door                 Trojan       "talkover"
  U-Roy and Friends: With a Flick of My
    Musical Wrist                                 Trojan?      "talkover"
  20 Reggae Classics                       1987   Trojan CD
  Studio Kinda Cloudy                      1988   Trojan       Hudson prod.
  King Tubby's Special 1973-1976           1990   Trojan       30 tracks

Culture
  Two Sevens Clash                         1977   Joe Gibbs

Rupert Edwards
  Irie Feelings                            1990   Trojan CD    20 remixes

Keith Hudson
  Pick A Dub                               1975   Atra
  Torch of Freedom                         1976   Virgin ?
  Rasta Communication                      1978   Joint Records

Junior Mervin (mixed by Lee Perry)
  Police and Thieves                       1976   Island

Lee "Scratch" Perry ("The Upsetter")
  Super Ape                                1976   Island
  Lee Perry and Friends - Give Me Power    1988   Trojan
  The Upsetter Collection                  1988   Trojan
  The Upsetter Compact Set                 1988   Trojan

Prince Far-I
  Heavy Manners                            1976   Joe Gibbs

Revolutionaries
  Dub Sensation                            
  Bamba in Dub                             1977   Skynote
  Hordcore Dub                             1990   OMLP


The manufacturer of a lot of these records:

     Trojan Records
     12 Thayer Street
     London W1M 6AU

A distributor/shop which supposedly has or can get most or all of the
Trojan reissues:

     Shanachie Records US
     Dalebrook Park
     Hohokus, New Jersey  07423
     USA
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In article <C0CGxt.1A8@news.iastate.edu> LB.NKA@isumvs.iastate.edu (Nubi Achebo)
writes:
>From: LB.NKA@isumvs.iastate.edu (Nubi Achebo)
>Subject: Natty Dub Music
>Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:32:16 GMT
>Would anybody give me a list of some natty dub laden reggae music and
>musicians.  Also please include any mail order place you know to get these
>albums since I live in a tiny city where the selection is very poor.
>
>I,ll also like to have the address of "Mango" - a record producing and
>distribution company.
>
>Nubi Achebo.
>

Here's a list of 10 particularly fine dub albums by non-dub artists (in no 
particular order):

1.	Black Uhuru - Dub Factor (Mango)
	Sly and Robbie team up with Paul 'Groucho' Smykle for a ferocious 
dub album.  Almost like a heavy metal album in its intensity.

2.	Prince Fari -  Cry Tuff Dub Encounter chapter I (ROIR cassette, 
Danceteria CD), II (Virgin/Caroline reissue) III (Daddy Kool) IV (Trojan).
	The voice Moses heard on the mountain must have been similar to that 
of the late Prince Fari's.  His dub albums rumble and boom as well. 
Especially fine is I where he hooks up with English dubmeister Adrian 
Sherwood.

3.	UB40 - Present Arms in Dub (Virgin)
	Before UB40 sold its soul for mass pop-reggae stardom, they released 
Present Arms, a great album.  In Dub is even better.  Distinguished by its 
spare use of traditional dub effects (like echo), it combines a heavy 
bassline with crisp drums and UB40's best asset - their horn section.

4.	Wailers - Tribute to Carly Barrett (Atra)
	Until Island relents in its pigheadedness and releases Dennis 
Thompson's dub mixes of the Marley catalog, check the Wailers spotlight on 
their late drummer.  Carlton Barrett, wiped from creation in 1987, had a 
unique drum style which is mixed upfront on this dub of Horace Andy and 
Winston Jarrett tracks.  Great supporting work from Tyrone Downie's organ 
and Bobby Ellis's horns.

5.	Aswad - New Chapter of Dub (Mango)
	(Mikey) Dread at the Controls serving up a spacey dub of Aswad's 
English import New Chapter LP.  Includes stellar horn work by Michael '
Bammie' Rose and Vin Gordon.

6.	Bunny Wailer - Dub D'sco Vol. I and II (Solomonic).
	Unlike his partners, Bob and Peter, Bunny has released two superb 
dub albums.  Vol. I features his vocals mixed high and then pushed/pulled in 
a wash of dub echo.  Vol. II is a more traditional dub album.

7.	Ras Michael and the Sons of Negus - Rastafari Dub (ROIR cassette, 
Crocodisc CD).
	Nyabinghi dub.  Robbie Shakespeare's bass leads the way while the 
akete, funde and repeater drums complement him against Earl 'Chinna' Smith's
flange guitar.  Any extremely rare dub album reissued featuring Peter Tosh 
on clavinet!

8.	Treasure Isle Dub Vol. I and II (Treasure Isle).
	Classic rock steady and early reggae tracks given the dub 
treatment; like John Holt's 'Ali Baba', Alton Ellis's 'Cry Tough' and the 
Melodians 'Come on Little Girl'. A good companion to Heartbeat's Duke Reid's
Treasure Chest of '92.  Check several of Studio One's dub albums as well.

9.	Dr. Alimontado - Love Is (Keyman)
	Like Bunny Wailer's, this is more a vocalized dub album of tracks by 
one of reggae's most underrated toasters.  A perfect example of how deejays 
have followed U Roy's example in incorporating dub.

10.	Alpha and Omega - Watch and Pray (A & O, Greensleeves)
	Dub's new wave: borrowing a little from Jah Shaka and ON U sound's 
African Headcharge, Alpha and Omega combine haunting female vocals, spacey 
dub effects, bonecrushing bass and salutations to Jah for an ethereal mix.  
Possibly an acquired taste.

Bonus: 	Kings of Reggae featuring Chris Hinze (Keytone)
	More of an instrumental album.  Some cheezy flute player from 
Holland (Hinze) goes down a yard and teams up with the best of Jamaica's 
session men: Sly and Robbie, Mikey Chung, Sticky.  While the premise for 
this sounds horrofic, the result is a masterpiece: Sly and Robbie rock hard, 
the unknown female backups sound great and as a bonus Peter Tosh warbles on 
a couple of tracks.  One more reason reggae music will suprise you every 
time.
----------

  Probably the finest single dub album I own is a double LP on Trojan called
"King Tubby Special."  It consists, of course, of classic tracks dubbed up by
the King himself.  Kicks butt big time.
  Also, there is a Prince Far I CD available from Trojan called "Voice of
Thunder," and it's essential.
  Keep an eye out for the Bunny Lee reissues coming out on RAS these days.
There's a very nice U-Roy disc ("Rock with I", RASCD 3219), which features
U-Roy toasting over gutbusting dub tracks, and also a great collection of
instrumental tracks by the Aggrovators which isn't strictly dub but features
Bunny's dubwise production style.
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From: Robert Nelson (rnelson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu

Prince Fari has always been one of my all time favorites. His voice sounds 
like he used to drink Drano :-). He chanted my all time favorite reggae 
lyric, "The humble cow gives the most milk." I probably feel sadder about 
his death than Marley's overall.

The Cry Tuff album that was produced by Adrian Sherwood was the first Cry 
Tuff Dub Encounter. It came out in 1978 on the Hitrun label and features the 
Arabs as the musicians. (In actuality I think the Arabs were really Dub 
Syndicate).  ROIR has released this on cassette and Danceteria has the CD.
It's a great dub album, with lots of special effects. Lions roaring that 
sort of thing; great for your answering machine message :-)

The Virgin/Caroline compilation called "Dubwize" has 4 unreleased singles/
versions & Cry Tuff Chap II. There are 8 songs listed for II. These Caroline 
reissues were notorious for leaving various tracks from the original 
albums off of the CD reissues. Does anyone out there have Cry Tuff II on 
vinyl? Did they leave off anything?

Here's a Prince Fari discography: *Cd availability

Cry Tuff Dub Ch. 1 (Roir/Danceteria)*
Cry Tuff Dub Ch. 3 (Daddy Kool)
Cry Tuff Dub Ch. 4 (Trojan)
Dubwize (Virgin/Caroline)*
Voice of Thunder (Trojan)*
Umkhonto we Sizwe - Spear of the Nation (Wambesi)*
Musical Revue (ROIR/Danceteria)* - live with the Suns of Arka
Black Man Land (Virgin/Caroline)* - tracks from Message from the King & 
                                    Livity
Under Heavy Manners (Joe Gibbs)
Psalms For I (Carib Gems) - Bible verses chanted over reggae beats
Jamaican Heroes (Trojan)
Free From Sin (Trojan)
Musical History (Trojan)

Here's some more I only know about, (if anyone has these and would like to 
do a trade swap, please mail me)

Message from the King (Virgin)
Long Life (Virgin)
Livity (Pre)
Rockers in a Suitcase (Pre)

Fari also did stellar work with Sherwood's Singers and Players:

Golden Greats (ON U)*
War of Words (ON U)
Staggering Heights (ON U)
Plus there is a nice Prince Fari love song where he sings and a DJ toasts 
over HIM on the ON U release Reggae Archives Vol 1.

If I've left anything out, please let us know.

Robert.

From: pandit@news.delphi.com (PANDIT@DELPHI.COM)
Subject: Re: Dub Reggae Reccomendations

Well, where do we start?  I guess I'll limit this too stuff that is in
print...

Dub Syndicate/African Headcharge/SIngers and Players  -- some of the 
spaciest and furthest out dub, produced by Brit A. Sherwood, 
available on import from UK on On-U-SOund.

Mad Professor - DUb me Crazy Series, esp. 2, 4, 5, and 6.  Wild,
playfull, slightly more electro dub from UK. Available domestically
from RAS.

Burning Spear - Living Dub I and II.  REmixes are not as good as 
originals 
but what are you going to do?  RAS.

Scientist - whatever is available.  It's all good.

Prince Jammy - likewise - except for the electro stuff.

Dennis Bovell - some great stuff, some not so great.

Lee Perry - Blood Vapour, Blackboard Jungle Dub, SUper Ape,
Trojan Box Sets.  One of the founding fathers.

Prince Far-I - I don't know what's in print, but most
dub titles are excellent.

That's probably about it.  Unfortunatley, most of the best
stuff is long out of print, available only on small JA or
UK labels on LP, and all us collectors beat you to it.
Regards,
Pandit
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From: pandit@news.delphi.com (PANDIT@DELPHI.COM)

How could I forget?  Black Uhuru's Dub Factor and SLy and RObbie's
Reggae Greats.
Pandit
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From: eznoh@niceup.com

30 Years of Dub on the Go, 2 CD set from Rhino. King Tubby, King Jammy,
Scientist and The Mad Professor.

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Subject: Re: What's your favorite DUB?????

I have to agree, Mad Professor's dubs are among the VERY best.  I rate Dub Me
Crazy Part 2 (Beyond the Realms of Dub) as his best album by a long chalk.
But I haven't heard many of the later ones...

Other than that, most Scientist is great (especially Dub Landing), as is most
of Jah Shaka's output.

Cheers,

|> 
|> On And In Dub ...
|> -Echomania is the most recent Dub Syndicate album. Most everything on the
|> On-U Sound label is worthwhile and they're now re-releasing old stuff at
|> quite a clip. The Dub Syndicate Classic Selections and African Head Charge
|> Vintage Selections are good value.
|> -One very fine NEW DUB compilation is Time Warp Dub Clash (Island Records).
|> The first half is old Sly & Robbie Dubs, but the latter part is a bunch of
|> fine new tracks from Jah Shaka,Manasseh, etc. Also check out Jah Shaka's
|> Dub Symphony (Mango)
|>  In terms of classics, my favourite dub album of all time is Johnny In the
|> Echo Chamber by the Aggrovators (trojan Records), produced by King
|> Tubby.Also look for Lee Perry, Scientist (his 'Tribute to King Tubby' thru
|> ROIR Records in New York is cool - it got me thru a seven-hour traffic jam
|> trying to get to Glastonbury once.)
|> If it's dubwise but not strictly dub yer after, try anything by THE ORB.
|> Which is ambient dub, but hey, let's not get into that 

From: stevem@dcs.gla.ac.uk (Steve McGowan.)
Subject: Re: U.K. Reggae Top 40
>|> 
>|> >1  Various - 30 Years Of Dub Music On The Go (2 CD) (Rhino UK)
>|> 

Mike, I've seen a lot of requests for more information on
this dub CD - maybe the track listing ought to go in the FAQ???

 
~Title: "30 years of dub music on the go" - various artists.
Producer: Bunny Lee.
Recorded at various studios in Jamaica.
Label: Rhino Records (RNCD 2046).
 
 
(KT=King Tubby, KJ=King Jammy, CMP=Crazy Mad Professor, S=Scientist)
 
 
CD1                                     CD2     
---                                     ---
 
Zion gate dub - KT                      Natural dub - KT
Money dub - KT                          Hard core dub - CMP
Forward home dub - KJ                   Pretty dub - CMP
Something on my mind dub - S            Slow motion dub - KJ
Mellow dub - CMP                        Jump song dub - KJ
Ten to one dub - KJ                     Good dub - S
Glad tidings dub - KT                   Baltimore dub - KT
Happy dub - S                           Reggaematic dub - KT
Hold on dub - CMP                       Confusion dub - KJ
Marcus dub - KT                         Dark destroyer dub - KJ
Fittest of the fittest dub - KJ         Penetrating dub - CMP
Movie star dub - S                      Time dub - CMP
Graceful dub - KT                       Just say who dub - KT
Different style dub - KJ                Impulsive dub - KT
Blood danza dub - S

Blood & Fire's "Tappa Zukie In Dub" - BAFCD 008
 
From: "c.sassen" <c.sassen@virgin.net>

the best Tubbys dub comp has got to be
King Tubby and friends Dub Explosion 22 roots classics
cdtrl 366 ,crap sleeve notes , released in 1995,but an awesome
selection of rare dub plates ,also Return to Umoja on Conqeuror
a re release of DEB dub plates  every one a bass bin killer!!
 
From: "Smart, Dana" <dana.smart@unistudios.com>

I've seen many recommendations for modern dub mixes a la Mad Professor,
African Headcharge and the On-U Sounds crew.  I find traditional roots dub
of the '70s far more mind blowing.  I recommend the following:

Augustus Pablo "Classic Rockers" [Island Jamaica / US]:  Having the classic
dub "King Tubbys Meets The Rockers Uptown" and its vocal side, Jacob
Miller's "Baby I Love You So," is worth the price of the CD alone.

Lee Perry "Voodooism" [Pressure Sounds / UK]:  Mind altering sides from
Perry's Black Ark.

Tappa Zukie "Tappa Zukie in Dub" [Blood & Fire / UK]

King Tubby & Friends "Dub Gone Crazy" [Blood & Fire / UK]

King Tubby & Prince Jammy "Dub Gone 2 Crazy" [Blood & Fire / UK]

The Upsetters "Blackboard Jungle Dub" [Coxsone's Music City / JA]:  Try to
find the Coxsone vinyl pressing in the red sleeve.  Has 14 cuts (compared to
the 12 on later CD pressings), despite the erroneous 12 tracks listed on the
back of the sleeve.

"Harry Mudie Meets King Tubby in Dub Conference" [Moodisc / US]:  Tubbys
mixing technique combined with Mudie's use of string orchestrations in his
productions makes for some of the most beautiful dub around.

Prince Far-I "Cry Tuff Dub Encounter Chapter 3" [Pressure Sounds / UK]:
Some of the tuffest versions around.

Also, check out the recently published "Reggae: The Rough Guide."  An
excellent record/history book on reggae.  One full, 32-page chapter
dedicated to dub.

From: Jeff Williams <skate@vom.com>
Garvey's Ghost- by burning spear is the classic dub record for me

From: rperry@runet.edu
Bunny Wailer: Dubd'sco Volumes 1&2 on RAS

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[2]. Can anyone recommend some books on reggae?

See the books page at the Jammin Reggae Archives:

http://niceup.com/books.html

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[3]. What is "Dub" music anyway?

	Look at the B-sides of Jamaican 45s beginning with rock steady, and
you'll notice many of them say "Version". This is "dub", a simple instrumental
remix of the A-side that may also include a few scraps of the vocals. The 
singers are "dubbed out", but in most other respects the version is identical 
to the A-side. Begun as a test for sound levels during the record-mastering 
process, version later became vogue. The Jamaican public developed an avid 
taste for version, and the scat-singing sound-system deejays took to recording 
their master-of-ceremonies raps over the hit-backing rhythms.

		"Reggae International", Davis and Simon
		Chapter 8, X-Ray Music

	The version was originally no more than an instrumental backing-track -
the B-side of a jamaican single with the vocal removed. But King Tubby helped
turn the simple version into a dazzling art form that became known as dub. In
the hands of such a master, dub at it's best could be as complex and rich in
musical interest as the original vocal. Tubby would strip the track down to
it's raw drum and bass and put it back together as something haunting and
strange, using fragments of the vocal as an instrument, in complex interplay
with the other instruments. He would build the tension with amplified cymbal
shots and thundering drum crashes, using reverb, echo and phasing in ways that
anticipated the experiments of contemporary dance music.

		Geoff Parker Feb. 99
		Liner Notes: The Sound of Channel One: King Tubby Connection
		
dub music was originally instrumentals of reggae tracks (also known as 
"version"),  usually put on the b-side of the single it was taken from, much 
like rap and r&b singles of today.  the name "dub" comes from the fact that 
the vocals were "dubbed" out.  as this style grew, many soundsystem dj's 
would have mc's lay down scatting and rythmic poetry to the tracks (also 
known as "toasting"), and many people credit dub with being one of the 
foundations for early rap music.   
  king tubby,  usually said to be the first known "dub producer", turned 
this into an all around musical genre, using parts of the vocal tracks as 
instruments, applying reverb, delay, echo, and phaser effects to them. 
  modern dub takes mostly from king tubby's style, but can also contain 
elements of trance, house, raga-style drum 'n' bass, and hip hop. (i don't 
really consider this to be true dub, but whatever.)  dub eventually gave way 
to dancehall reggae and has influenced jungle in a large part. 
                                                                              
                 sam cercone 
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[4]. Can anyone recommend some roots reggae?

	I always recommend the samplers, that way you can choose what sounds
interesting and branch out from there. I highly recommend the Greensleeves,
Heartbeat, RAS, and Mango samplers, although there are many others.

						EZ Noh,		mike


From: mart@csa.bu.edu (borja larrumbide)
Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
Subject: Re: New Groups, Any ideas?

If you like Steel Pulse you will definitely enjoy Aswad. They both sound very
alike, especially in albums like Aswad(live, Hulet,...).Try to avoid its most
recent stuff and check first its old albums. If  you hear Bob Marley then you
should  check Peter Tosh(Wanted Dread  or Alive,...). Other  groups  I  would 
recommend would be Black Uhuru, Alpha Blondy(It been considered to follow the
trends of Bob Marley. Although that's a matter of opinion). Another choice 
could be Burning Spear(live in Paris, Mek We Dweet,...). There are many more
and the list too long. I hope this helps!

					  Long live reggae!	

From: fiddick@condor.ucsb.edu (Laurence Fiddick;)
Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
Subject: Re: recommendations

here goes:

if it's on studio one buy it. in particular you might look for burning
spear's 'studio one presents' and 'rocking time', the heptones' 'on top',
the carlton and the shoes' lp--generally you can't go wrong with studio
one.

not on studio one, look for:

augustus pablo 'original rockers'
augustus pablo 'king tubby meets rockers uptown'
augustus pablo 'east of the river nile'
culture 'two sevens clash'
culture 'harder than the rest'
culture 'cumbolo'
black uhuru 'red'
black uhuru 'showcase/guess who's coming to dinner'
linton kwesi johnson 'dread, beat an blood'
linton kwesi johnson 'making history'
dennis brown 'visions'
bob marley 'rasta revolution'
bob marley 'african herbsman'
count ossie and the mystic revelation of rastafari 'grounation'
burning spear 'marcus garvey'
burning spear 'social living'
hugh mundell 'africa must be free by 1983'
various 'wiser dread'

i'm sure others can add more to this list.

Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
Subject: Re: recommendations

	No self-respecting reggae fan should be without a few Lee Perry
	albums (either ones that he's produced or recorded - or both)

	Best ones include...


	Heart of the Ark (Vols I and II)
	Megaton Dub (Vols I and II)
	Super Ape
	Return of the Super Ape
	Excaliburman
	George Faith - 'To be a Lover' (Lee Perry Produced)** highly
								recommended
	Build the Ark	-|
	Open the Gate	-|--- All three are three-album boxed sets
	Upsetters	-|


	(There's lots more, but these are the ones that you should investigate
	first, especially the George Faith album. I do think, however, that
	this album is now deleted [at least on vinyl], so the only place you
	may come across it are in 2nd-hand record shops or record fares - but
	it's a classic album which you *must* try and listen to. I got my copy
	from a record fare a few years ago - for a paltry 3 pounds.)

From: rnelson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu (Robert Nelson)
Subject: Re: New Groups, Any ideas?

Here's a list of 10 albums that will give anyone a simple 
introduction to reggae music. (These are all readily available from most 
record stores/chains). I'll assume that you'll want to pick up most of the 
Marley catalog, especially since most of the titles cost about $8 now on CD.


1. Burning Spear -  Marcus Garvey/Garvey's Ghost (on CD) (Mango label)
2. Bunny Wailer -  Blackheart Man (Mango Label)
3. Black Uhuru - Guess Who's Coming to Dinner (Heartbeat)
4. Peter Tosh - Legalize It (CBS)
5. Aswad - To the Top (Mango or Simba)
6. Steel Pulse - True Democracy (Elektra)
7. Eek a Mouse - Wa Do Dem (Shan. or Greensleeves)
8. Alpha Blondy - Jerusalem (Shan.)
9. Gregory Isaacs - Night Nurse (Mango)
10. Judy Mowatt - Black Woman (Shan.)

This only scratches the surface, each one of these 
artists has many more killer titles all reggae lovers 
should own.

Robert.			

[For more recommendations from Robert Nelson, check out his list
of 250 albums in the Jammin Reggae Archives, the file is in the
'discographies' directory: 'roots_reggae_core_list' ]

From: d2domer@dtek.chalmers.se (Erik Domstad)

Culture-	  'Culture in Culture'
Mighty Diamonds-  'The Real Enemy'
Black Uhuru-      'Anthem'
Bunny Wailer-     'Liberation'
Burning Spear-    'Resistance'
Israel Vibration- 'Praises'
Wailing Souls-    'Fire house rock'
Ini Kamoze-       'Pirate'
Ijahman-          'Haile I hymn'


  Erik

ixtst+@pitt.edu (Isaac Thompson) writes:

  What (reggae) life has taught me, I would like to share with you.--Haile 
Selasie.  The following are reggae artists I think true, dyed-in-the-wool 
reggae heads must have:

>Mutabaruka (Ja.--roots poetry, plenty of brain food) 
>Linton Kwesi Johnson (Ja.--ditto)  
>Luky Dube (South Africa)
>Evi Edna (Nigeria--female, terrific voice, great voice, down right rootsy!)
>Identity (US--group of West Indians) 
>Cidre Negra (Brazil--def!)
>Sandee (Japan)

>Check them out.

From: dhoffman@spot.Colorado.EDU (David Hoffman)

Couldn't let this one go without adding my essentials:

Junior Murvin - the record with "Police and Thieves"
Gregory Isaacs, esp. early releases
Sugar Minott
Black Uhuru - check out "Sinsemilla"
Judy Mowatt
June Lodge

just a few suggestions!

Dave

From: linden@fanout.et.tudelft.nl (Hans van der Linden)

Name for his style: IJahMan Levi's music.

Compare him?  It's said that Chris Blackwell decided for him to be THE
successor of Bob Marley ("sign me your publishings and I make you a
wealthy man").... yet IJahman did go his own way. 
But of similar musical and lyric-wise level and similar sort of music/lyrics
I'd say: A lot of Pablo Moses' (esp. older: Revolutionary Dream and such)
work (also still around and hot), also Sugar Minott's work on studio One,
Junior Byles (Jordan), Lee Scratch Perry's Heart of the Ark collection,
Yabby You's One Love, One Heart (also GREAT), side A of Singers and
Players' Leaps and Bounds, Israel Vibration, Wiss, and such. 

Albums and tapes I have, so I can tell about (not in specific order):
`Are We A Warrior?' 1979 (still Island:-) [title song esp. great (7:33min)]
`Haile I Hymn (chapter 1)' (ALL 4 NUMBERS PERFECT) (yet still Island)
        esp. numbers: `Jah Heavy Load' and `Jah Is No Secret' are PERFECT+
`Tell It To The Children' (again very great)
`Levi Inside Out' (very great again, incl. 2 love songs, and a new version of
        `Jah Heavy Load')        JMI 1100 (Tree Roots prod. 1989)
`Lilly Of My Valley' (lot of love songs, yet VERY good) JMI 500 (Tree R. '85)
`IJahman & Friends' (VERY VERY good, esp. most numbers:-) (some guests, like
        Black Uhuru and His Majesterian appear) JMI 900, Tree Roots '88
`Africa' (to bore you all...again ALL BRILLIANT, great blazing, as usual)
        JMI 400, Tree Roots '84
    Very recently (dedicated to 100th Anniversary of Haile Sellasie) my gf    
    gave me the album:   
`KingFari', I love side A, side B (love songs) I like.(JMI 1400 Tree Roots '92)
    (Oh yes, I recorded [from radio!] `Live in Paradiso '87, guess that will 
    not be found worldwide though:-)

From: Richard W Anglin <anglin@acsu.buffalo.edu>

	Well at the top of my list is BURNING SPEAR!!
Anything of Burning Spear up to the late 1980's.  Especially the new compilation
HAIL H.I.M.
	CULTURE also primo... newly released BABYLON BRIDGE
	LINTON KWESI JOHNSON
	THE GLADIATORS
	THE ABBYSINIANS....check out their compilation on the HEARTBEAT
label..SATTA MASSAGNA it is now considered to be a colector's item.
	THE MEDITATORS
	THE ORIGINAL WAILERS.... BOB MARLEY and the WAILERS when they were
called
the WAILERS
	U-ROY
	JACOB MILLER... an unsung HERO!
	INI KAMOSI.... "BEFORE he went to jail"
basically  I recommend all roots reggae before the mid to late 1980's

In article <3dqelm$43o@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, papalee@aol.com (Papa Lee)
writes:
|> >I buy the CD's for a public library and I am trying to build up the
|> reggae
|> >collection.  We have about 30 reggae CD's right now and I would like to
|> buy
|> >a lot more.  Any suggestions for some great reggae CD's would be
|> appreciated.
|> >irie
|> 
|> This is a pretty interesting question, because the implications of buying
|> for a library are very different than buying for a private collection. 
|> I'd have to start off with Island's Tougher than Tough Compilation, The
|> Trojan Story V1 and the Trojan Story V2, Duke Reid's Treasure Chest,
|> Mango's Pressure Drop, Coxsone's Ska Bonanza (on Heartbeat). Respect to
|> Studio One and Original Jamaican Classics, Hearbeat's Channel One:
|> Hitbound, Joe Gibbs/Mighty Two, Virgin's Natty Rebel Roots,  Bob Marley's
|> Songs of Freedom and the Wailers One Love, Peter Tosh's Equal Rights,
|> Bunny Wailers Blackheart Man and Marcia Griffiths Naturally.  Maybe
|> Heartbeat's Dee Jay Explosion.  Niney's Observation Station.  Clancy
|> Eccles' Fatty Fatty.  Any two of VP's Strictly the Best and Jet Star's
|> Reggae Hits series for contemporary balance.  Something by Dennis Brown
|> (Some Like It Hot or anything on the Joe Gibbs label would be a good
|> start), something by Gregory Isaacs (anything before 1982), something by
|> Big Youth (on Trojan) and something by U Roy (before 1978).    A
|> collection like that would touch on most of the salient points of reggae's
|> history with a touch of contemporary material as well.  This material is
|> fairly available in the US as well.
|> 
|> Hope this helps.
|> One Love,
|> Lee O'Neill

In article <APC&1'0'69c4b8aa'c77@igc.apc.org>, Lieschen Montaner
<lmontaner@igc.apc.org> writes:
|> mango records has a collection of records called reggae greats. sly and 
|> robbie's reggae greats album is a great album indeed.it features dub 
|> tracks from their work with black uhuru in the 80's. some of the best 
|> reggae in history was created by the combination of sly and robbie and 
|> black uhuru.
|> 		one love, beto.
|> 

|> 
|> Here are a few records that any reggae fan should own - I tried to keep it
|> it to stuff that's currently available in the USA on CD and is sort of
|> rootsy.
|> 
|> Upsetters "Super Ape" - most people on this newsgroup agree that Lee Scratch
|> Perry is the greatest reggae producer ever.  He's been very prolific, and
|> this is one of his absolute classics.
|> 
|> Gregory Isaacs "The Best Of . . ." - 20 classics from the Cool Ruler.  When 
|> he's not getting hassled by the man, the Lonely Lover's charming all the 
|> ladies. Gregory has real style, an impeccable voice and great tunes.  
|> This is my favourite record of his - 20 classic hits.
|> 
|> Culture "Two Sevens Clash" - you just can't beat this for great vocals and 
|> all around righteousness.  It's kind of a roots concept album, as is: 
|> Burning Spear "100th Anniversary" - this is the Spear's most famous album, 
|> "Marcus Garvey", plus its dub "Garvey's Ghost" on one CD.  Unbeatable.
|> 
|> I'd also recommend just about any compilation of old stuff on the Heartbeat
|> label.  They usually have great sound, good liner notes, and a fantastic
|> selection of songs.  Good way to hear a range of artists for little $$.  
|> Best in my opinion are:
|> 
|> "Channel One / Hit Bound: The Revolutionary Sound"
|> "Soul Defenders At Studio One"
|> or any of the three "Best Of Studio One" single CDs.
|> 
|> The great thing about reggae (well, one of them) is that you can start
|> with a few titles and expand from there pretty easily - you'll find that 
|> you can trust some labels pretty consistently, that you'll develop have a 
|> fondness for the work of certain producers at certain times (give me mid-'70s
|> Lee Perry or Joe Gibbs, anytime!) and some artists almost never let you down.
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[5]. Live reggae recording recommendations

From: geofh@meibm4.cen.uiuc.edu ()
Subject: Re: Recommendations for LIVE reggae productions

	Geof's favorite live discs-

	Black Uhuru  "Tear It Up- Live"  on Mango <-- An incredible release
		featuring my favorite BU lineup (Michael Rose, Ducky Simpson,
		Puma) with Sly and Robbie rhythm section.  Classic rockers 
		A must have.
	Burning Spear  "Live in Paris '88"  on Slash/Blue Moon  <--- There's
		been talk of this album on the net before.  Whichever version
		you end up with is a killer one.
	Toots and the Maytals  "Live (at the Hammersmith Palace)"  <---  You
		want great crowd interaction?  Check out the 11 (?) minute
		"54-46 That's my Number"  These guys have got soul.  The 
		must have recommendation is a given for all of these selections.
Peter Tosh  "Captured Live"  on ??? (this is all from the top of my head)
		<---  Killer.  Relatively easy to find.
	Bunny Wailer  "Live" on Solomonic  <---  I've only seen this on vinyl
		with a pretty low sound quality.  Includes stuff from 
		"Blackheart Man" and "Rootsman Skankin'
		(sorry) and an "I'm the Toughest" cover.  Anyone seen this on
		disc?  It's definitely worth it.
	BMW "Live"  <---  The prototype live reggae album.

From: bbe001@acad.drake.edu

Well I'm mostly roots myself, but just by chance I was listening to a "live"
dancehall record tonight- Charlie Chaplin's "Take Two." I know this might
not be the new NEW dancehall you're talking about, i.e. Ninjaman, Shabba, etc.
But Chaplin's the MAN and he's backed by Roots Radics here. I say "live" cause
it's live in the studio, but he's got plenty of people whistling and shouting.
"Take Two" is 1990 on RAS. 
More good live stuff would of course be any of the Sunsplashes! I have
Eek-A-Mouse w/ Michigan and Smiley from the '84 Sunsplash and Yellowman at the
'83. They both slam but try to get the Eek-A-Mouse disc if you have to choose.
That's all I can think of for now...
ites,
Brad

From: oweng@aston.ac.uk (Gareth Owen)
Subject: Re: Recommendations for LIVE reggae productions

Misty In Roots - Live at the Counter Eurovision '78 (on People Unite)

Wonderful stuff

-- 

From: dudley@treefort.Corp.Sun.COM (Dudley Gaman)

You probably have Marley's _Talkin' Blues_.  If not, you must get it.
Burning Spear's _Live in Paris_ is very good.  My favorite live reggae
album is _Gregory Issacs Live_ from the Reggae Greats collection.  It
was released 8 or 10 years ago, but I still listen to it when I need
a dose of Gregory at his best.

Dudley

From: rnelson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu (Robert Nelson)
Subject: Re: Recommendations for LIVE reggae productions

I've got a 2 album bootleg of Peter Tosh  called "Dealing with the 
Shytstem".  With a wicked version of Babylon Queendom.

There are a couple of other Marley bootlegs in circulation as well:

The Lion's Domain
Wailing For the Last Time.

(I don't feel too bad about picking up bootlegs, since Island shortchanged 
alot of the rarities on Songs For Freedom; dem maga dogs!)

Robert.

From: eznoh@niceup.com (mike pawka)
Subject: Re: Recommendations for LIVE reggae productions

	My favorite "live" CD is Mighty Diamonds "Live In Tokyo", although good
luck in finding it. It's a Japanese Import, I found it at Tower for $22.50 one
day, grabbed it and haven't seen a copy since. I think the performance is from
about 1980.


From: barstow@cv.hp.com (Art Barstow)
Subject: Re: Recommendations for LIVE reggae productions

A few of my favorites that have not been mentioned:

o  Bob Marley and the Wailers: Babylon By Bus

o  Lucky Dube: Captured Live

o  Pato Banton:  I think it is 'American Revolution' or 'Reggae Revolution';
     it was recorded in San Fran. and has a good version of "Niceness"
     and "Don't Sniff ...".

Reply-To: coker@artiste.sitka.sun.com

Well, once again to address real reggae, lovers rock and the dancehall, the 25th
Anniversary Album from Alton Ellis is an all-time favorite live album.

From: linden@fanout.et.tudelft.nl (Hans van der Linden)
Subject: Re: Recommendations for LIVE reggae productions

Though most of my favourites have yet been mentioned, still missing is the
great:   Chalice - Live at Reggae Sunsplash 1982  (VSLP 8902, Vista Records)
Greetings, Hans

From: mark griffis <bgdrea19@IDT.NET
for live let's not forget the unforgettable "Aswad Live & Direct" &
"Steel Pulse Live in Paris" both of these are massive live sets by
Englands best reggae bands.

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