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Top Document: Misc.FS+Biz.Mktplc ADVERTISING FAQ--INFO FOR NEW USERS Previous Document: 7. Other classified ads on the Internet. See reader questions & answers on this topic! - Help others by sharing your knowledge
Businesses, entrepreneurs, not-for-profit organizations, and
other commercial entities must follow additional guidelines
when posting to newsgroups, including the Usenet Marketplace.
Many users frown on the use of the Internet for commercial
purposes because of rampant commercial abuse in the past.
Because of this prior misuse, it is especially important that
you help us to change this image in order to allow continued
commercial use of the Usenet Marketplace. The rest of this
section, while tailored to the biz.marketplace hierarchy,
pertains to many other newsgroups as well. If you would like
to know more about why commercial ads are under such
restrictions, I highly recommend Joel Furr's FAQ on
advertising,
"Advertising on Usenet: How To Do It, How Not To Do It"
posted regularly to news.misc.
Commercial entities may post advertisements to the appropriate
biz.marketplace.* newsgroups as long as they satisfy the
criteria detailed below. These criteria have been designed
to conserve bandwidth, minimize noise, and provide the best
value for potential customers while providing you with the
best audience for your wares or services. If you follow
these criteria, you will receive the most positive response
possible; your sales will grow and your organization will
maintain a good public image. If your marketing tactics
compromise the integrity of these newsgroups, you can expect
loss of sales, loss of privileges, and a poor reputation
among Internet users. You can also expect a nasty message
from the biz.marketplace moderator announcing that your
article has been deleted as inappropriate.
***Junk e-mail alert!***
These newsgroups are about posting ads for readers to browse
through at their leisure. Some companies have recently tried
to mass-market by culling e-mail addresses from newsgroup
posts, and sending these posters unsolicited e-mail. Sending
unsolicited e-mail advertisements over the Internet is
against the policy of most Internet service providers,
including AOL and other major online services. This practice
is not tolerated by the Usenet audience, and sometimes
results in revocation of Internet access. You may, however,
send an e-mail reply to the poster of a question about
services or products you can provide.
Inappropriate commercial use of the Internet is watched by many
users, and recorded for posterity. If you would like more
information, check out the Blacklist of Internet Advertisers
posted regularly to news.answers to see who has ruined their
reputation recently.
***About the biz.marketplace moderated newsgroups***
The biz.marketplace newsgroups are retro-moderated, which means
that the moderator routinely cancels inappropriate posts
after-the-fact. At present, several robots analyze the
biz.marketplace groups and automatically cancel most articles
which don't adhere to the suggestions in this FAQ. The robots
try to be lenient and have been running greater than 99%
accuracy. However, because they are only as stupid as the
idiot who programmed them, the moderator reserves the right
to cancel any article which does not follow the suggestions
for advertising listed in this FAQ. From time to time,
biological entities may also intervene to cancel articles
which the robots miss.
It is possible, in the rarest of cases, that a totally
appropriate article would be cancelled. If your article
follows all of the suggestions and is still cancelled, please
work with us to resolve the problem. If your article is
cancelled and you included a valid e-mail address in the
From: or Sender: header, you'll receive notification.
The following quote from the biz.marketplace charter should help
you understand our purpose:
"Because the propagation and storage resources of this
hierarchy are supported primarily by the customers, all
posters to this hierarchy must recognize that a heavy
emphasis is placed on end-user value. Every post to any
biz.marketplace group should demonstrate, in a concise
manner, its value to the customers. This value should not be
easily obtained except through these newsgroups. This value
may be monetary, or it may be in the form of services which
are not prolifically advertised and are of general interest
to the readership."
***Acceptable commercial offerings***
All commercial offerings must provide end-user value as stated
above. These offerings are welcome in biz.marketplace
newsgroups:
Discounted merchandise</STRONG>
You may post an ad if everything in your post is offered
at a price significantly lower than the lowest price
available for the same first-quality merchandise through
retail stores, mail-order catalogs, national advertising
campaigns, and other nationally-distributed media
including TV, magazines, or large discount chains. For
computer items in the U.S., the litmus test is the lowest
current, not published, price offered by dealers in
Computer Shopper magazine. Bulk offerings and offerings
not open to the general public must provide an equivalent
value to corporate customers. The discount from the best
nationally-available prices should be at least 10% for
items/lots $500 or more, 12-15% in the $200-500 range,
and at least $20 for items/lots under $200. It is your
responsibility to research prices before posting.
A few examples:
Refurbished goods
Overstocks
Factory seconds
Closeouts
Offerings to individuals at or near wholesale
Bulk offerings for export below wholesale
Hard-to-find services or merchandise
You offer services or tangible goods that would not
otherwise be available nationally, and are of widespread
interest to the readers. You still must offer very
competitive pricing.
A few more examples:
Home handiwork
Freelance services: writing, programming, photography
Language translation services
Consulting services
Internet t-shirts and coffee mugs
Small-company developed software
Escrow services
Internet service providers
Self-published fiction
These offerings should not be posted:
Entire catalogs
Only those items in your inventory which satisfy the
above criteria may be advertised. Because catalogs use
a lot of resources, it is better to pick a few choice
items to advertise, briefly describe the rest of your
inventory, and solicit e-mail requests for your catalog
or announce a web link to it. Please keep your ad to
fewer than 40 lines in the interest of bandwidth.
Distributorships, investment opportunities, sales positions,
and multi-level marketing
You may offer your merchandise if it would otherwise be
acceptable, but marketing or investment opportunities are
not included in the Marketplace scope of facilitating the
sale of goods and services. Job offerings, except for
specific solicitation of contract/freelance workers in the
services groups, fall under the same category. In the
interest of international trade, limited specific
"corporate distributors wanted" advertising will be
allowed in the international group, but _only_ if its
presentation follows the highest Marketplace standards.
NO soliciting for individuals internationally.
Items of limited interest to the audience
All offerings should be of interest to a large number of
the readers. In general, most computer-related items or
services are appropriate, as are everyday items,
furniture, decorations, and other items used by a large
percentage of the population. The largest parts of the
Usenet audience come from all corners of the world, and
include computer-related business employees, high-school
and university students, professors, top scientific
researchers, and the occasional computer-literate family.
Most readers have advanced educations. If your item is
not of widespread interest to these populations, then
please don't advertise on the newsgroups.
A few examples of usually inappropriate offerings:
Psychic, sex, and similar telephone services
Herbal and experimental medications and diet
supplements
Money making opportunities of most sorts
Immigration and trial law services
***Commercial ad copy requirements***
When writing your ad, please keep in mind the suggestions for
ads written by individuals. Many of the suggestions are
enforced for commercial ads, especially pertaining to
effective subject lines [HINT!!! ;-]. Once you understand how
to write an ad from an individual's point of view, modify your
commercial ad to follow a few additional guidelines:
State exact items, services, and prices in detail.
Stating that you offer a certain product line is not
enough. You must provide specific examples. Any reader
knowledgeable about your products should be able to read
your ad and easily see the end-user value. Be certain
you include model numbers, special conditions, and, most
importantly, prices. Also include shipping and payment
information. We repeat: failure to include prices for
merchandise _will_ make your article eligible for
cancellation.
Keep your ad reasonably short, but not _too_ short.
As a general guide, if you are offering one item, you will
rarely need more than 12 lines. If you have 12 items, try
to use no more than 2 lines per item. 40 items, no more
than 1 line per item. If your list of qualifying
offerings won't fit in 50 lines, list a few representative
items or services, then offer to send the full list by
e-mail to interested parties. Alternatively, include a
link to your catalog on the World-Wide-Web. But be sure
to include the requisite examples to prove that your ad is
appropriate! Very few readers will scroll past the second
page of your article, so be brief, don't waste space, but
say what you need to. Post much more than 50 lines and
the robots will automatically cancel your ad. Also,
don't include blank forms in your posts.
Present facts, eliminate hype.
When you write your ad, just present technical
information and facts. Do not include commentary or
marketing hype. Because of the high level of education
of most of the readers, marketing hype only wastes
bandwidth and invites questions about your reputability.
Present your product in a serious technical light and you
will sell more in these newsgroups than if you present it
as the biggest innovation since the atom bomb. Also, the
laws of various consumer protection agencies about truth
in advertising apply and are strictly enforced in their
own way on the newsgroups.
Please tailor your posts to each newsgroup.
If you offer items which belong in different newsgroups,
such as a variety of PC and Macintosh hardware, then
please write a separate article for each of the intended
groups. PC users do not like to sort through listings of
Macintosh items, nor should computers or computer
services be posted to the non-computer groups. Instead
separate PC and Macintosh hardware into separate posts.
You will lose sales if a PC user has to skip over a group
of Macintosh hardware before finding your PC section.
Posting to multiple biz.marketplace groups is another
criteria for cancellation.
Include _your_ e-mail address.
If your e-mail host sends automatic replies, or if you
don't regularly read mail in the account from which you
are posting, please include an e-mail address in your ad
where you, personally, can be reached. Autoresponders
work well for responding to large numbers of catalog
requests, but they don't work well when people have
questions, comments, or complaints. Some Usenet
Marketplace users will not do business with companies who
refuse to make a live person easily accessible for
questions. We also urge you to respond to such
questions, comments, or complaints, as users will often
complain to your system administrator if you cannot be
reached.
Post your ad once a month.
If your offerings are continuous, please maintain a
1-month interval between posts, unless you need to make a
correction. If someone posts a request in a
*.discussion group for a service you provide, respond to
her by e-mail rather than reposting your stock ad. Your
ad may disappear at your site in a couple of days, but it
will remain at other sites for 2 weeks or more. The
one-month interval has been determined to be a reasonable
compromise because of limitations on bandwidth and
storage at most sites. Enforcement will be included in
future robots.
Learn how to cancel articles before you post.
If your post escapes with an error, or if it needs a
price correction, please cancel your original post before
posting the update. See the section on cancelling
articles for more information.
Limit distribution of your post
When you post to the Usenet Marketplace, your article is
sent to thousands of news servers worldwide. If you
don't want to deal internationally, or if your items are
too large to ship, please limit your article distribution
when posting. For more information, see the section on
advanced posting topics.
Finally, if you are unclear on any of these issues, please ask.
It might save a lot of headaches later.
***A short guide to cancelling articles***
If you make a mistake when posting, or should you need to
revise your ad, it is imperative that you be able to cancel
it quickly. The most universal way to correct such problems
is to post a corrected ad with a Supersedes: header at the
top of your new message. To do this, you need the
Message-ID: from your original article. Go into your
newsreader, find your article, and look at the headers (you
may need to type 'h' to see them). The top of your article
should look similar to:
Newsgroups: misc.forsale.non-computer
Subject: BooBoo For Sale
From: hoosier@commercial.com
[other headers]
Message-ID: <several_characters_and_numbers@site.com>
[Article text after a blank space]
In your new article, include the following line in your
header:
Supersedes: several_characters_and_numbers@site.com
An easier way if you use rn, trn, or nn as your newsreader is
to type a capital 'C' while you are reading your original
article. Then, post your new article (if any). Hitting 'C'
cancels the original article and erases the text, although
the subject line may not be removed at all sites. Some sites
have other ways of cancelling articles. Talk to a local
system administrator for help.
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