Re: spamgard(tm) in effect; try again.

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Joseph Armstrong (jarmstro@powerup.com.au)
Thu, 21 Jan 1999 21:57:57 +1000


>It's a shame that so many are willing to give up what we've
>had, for half a principle.

[snip]

>This is the half-principle: blindly resist control from
>above, blindly accept control from below.
>
>To me, losing my right of speech to terrorists is just as
>bad as losing it to dictators. At present, Usenet is in
>far, far more danger from terrorists.

That's well put.

It's a bit like the old argument of "you are either with me or against me.
If you are not with me, then you must be against me. Therefore I must kill
you."

And, of course, the usual response is shocked silence whilst one thinks.

The following argument is "silence signifies consent" usually follows.
This is how dickheads gain control.

The only problem with this line of reasoning is that it disallows other
perspectives.

One solution lies in either ISP's refusing to carry the crap or in users
voting with their feet and going to another ISP.

Why abandon something to some cretin who acts like a parasite such as the
cuckoo bird because it becomes a problem?

The argument of anarchy breaks down when one considers something like
"water"
Who wants the freedom to choose to drink whatever, whenever, wherever?
I know I'd rather be part of the crowd that incurs a social cost to have a
guaranteed supply of clean, potable water. It doesn't extract much of a toll
on my resources, I cannot be held to ransom (since it's pretty well
universal in the West)

The other side of the coin ... "I have a right to ....."
Not so. Rights do not exist in nature. They are man made.
Rights are a wonderful thing. They also imply responsibility.

Such as "I have a right to drink." Not disputed.
"I have a right to drink and drive." Not disputed.
You do what you want. If you wish to drink and drive, do so. BUT don't use
the roads I/we build. Don't drive near my house/kids. You have a right to do
what you want. By that argument, so do I.

I think the probable solution lies somewhere in the middle - refuse to bow
down to the illogical argument of "rights" etc. IE, "you are free to do what
you want but 99 percent of us are doing the opposite of what you are. If you
want a voice, then ..." Refuse to pay the cuckoo. Build decoys for the
spammer. Or even ensure that *ALL* news is routed to "central", cast against
an updated list (paid full time operator) then diseminated.

Jeez, I could go on all night on this one (I often do ;-)



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