News Client Abilities (was MAC Help)

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D. Kirkpatrick (aeon@tiac.net)
Sat, 7 Mar 98 13:50:11 -0500


>I'm not sure whether this helps the original poster, who wanted an offline
>(Mac) newsreader, though.

Speaking up here as the originator.....

Frankly anything that will work at this point.

I operate Mac and have YA-Newswatcher 2.3.6 and Outlook Express 4.0 as
stand-alone news clients. I also have the built in clients from AOL and
CIS (which are useless).

A significant part of the problem lies in the ability to post all
necessary lines of the primary header and without any separating blank
lines. I have no access to a Unix system and frankly don't speak "Unix"
at all. I'm just a plain "John Doe" computer user with maybe a tad of
"how-to" knowledge. I get by.

Most "recreational" news clients just don't have the ability as far as I
can see to do the job. Some do not even allow for the addition of extra
headers what so ever.

I am aware that there are at least 2 Mac OLR news readers, MacSOUP being
one. I forget the title of the other. The author of MacSOUP says that
certain headers cannot be overridden in his program and probably cannot
be used in its current state for what is needed to post a FAQ, unless of
course he re-writes it substantially, and since its a shareware he does
on the side that is unlikely. Also *some* extra headers inserted seem to
conflict with some standard for headers that he has limited the program
to that does not match what the admin group approves for header liness.
When I insert the extras I get an error message that it does not meet
such-and-so standards. ARG!

Faced with the need to post the FAQ I maintain to the newsgroup itself I
did that already using MacSOUP. It went OK for obvious reasons. The
same attempts at uploding to rec.answers and news.answers resulted in a
failure and the whole thing came back to me due to a blank line in the
primary header. There was no way for me to get around that with this
particular client.

My next shot will be to try YAN but that is a live program requiring a
live connection to the news server. And you can't even get a message edit
screen unless connected so I won't know what I can or cannot do until I
fire it up.

So far I have posted my FAQ to my newsgroup but have not as yet been able
to post to the admin areas, hence, the FAQ is not archived either.

I recently got the info on the FAQ server but that is likely to take me
some time to digest to use properly.

Aside from that, is there any mail-to-news gateway I (we) can use that
can take the news headers out of the message body, and properly handle
primary and secondary header needs?

I appreciate the help received to date via this list and some direct
e-mail from subscribers.

Dennis Kirkpatrick
Boston, MA

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