Re: Dealing with spam

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Stephan Schulz (schulz@informatik.tu-muenchen.de)
Wed, 23 Apr 1997 22:19:20 +0200 (MET DST)


Scott Norwood wrote:
> Subject: Re: Dealing with spam
> On Wed, 23 Apr 1997, Christopher Allen wrote:
> > I too am having this problem -- I received over 50(!) spams this weekend
> > probably because my latest rev to the SSL-Talk FAQ got posted last week.
> >
> > I wish I could define who the "known" people are to me and use your solution.
>
> Well, I personally dislike the idea of intentionally posting anything to
> USENET with munged headers (particularly when posting an FAQ), because I
> believe in adhearing to the RFC and posting with a valid return address.
> Also, I find that the value of the replies that I've received to the
> FAQ and to my regular postings far outweighs the nusiance of receiving
> spam messages.

I have to agree. I do consider invalid email addresses to be a
nuisance - an understandable one, but a nuisance nontheless. I do
maintain the FAQs for soc.history.medieval (by choice) and
soc.history.ancient (by accident), and up to now have sent them out
with complete and valid headers. The spam level is about 1-2/week.

> Personally, I use procmail to send 'make money fast' stuff to /dev/null,
> and to bounce back anything from cyberpromo.com or savetrees.com back to
> about ten or fifteen different (valid) addresses at cyberpromo.com. I've
> recently done the same for the cyber-broadcasting.com domain. For me,
> that takes care of maybe 80% of the junk that I receive; as for the rest,
> I usually call up the 'Administrative Contact' listed in whois for the
> originating site (which may not be the same as the domain listed in the
> From: header, due to intenional address forgeries), and complain about
> spam coming from their site. I've actually received helpful responses
> from a couple of sites (most notably, bigger.net) after doing this.
> I figure that it costs me less than a quarter to make the phone call,
> and it's well worth it, considering what I'd have to pay to upgrade my
> disk space and CPU to handle a massive increase in spam messages.
>
> Any other suggestions? Comments?

I always dig for the original senders site and send an email complaint
to his postmaster, and possibly to postmasters at the site were the
spam was injected, at the site a forged from-header or message id
points to, and the sites advertised in the spam (if any). I complain
about the waste of time and resources and include a standard boiler
plate message informing them of my charges for dealing with spam. I
never got spam from the same address twice, but many friendly replies
from postmasters.

Stephan

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