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...TRAIN A PITT-BULL TO ATTACK ON COMMAND?

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Answer by Pit owner
Submitted on 12/13/2003
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Lot's of time. According to a number of books I've read on the subject of Guard dogs, Pit Bulls are excellent at it and rated in top ten by "How to train a guard dog", by John Larson and "The Intelligence of dogs" by Coren. As well as many other professional trainers whoms books I have not before me right now. First you must teach basic obedience to perfection. Starting with Heel, No, Sit, Stay, Down, Come, Crawl and Hup(Jump) first on leash then off, close range and far. A training collar advances the speed of the dogs learning and I would highly recommend it as our pup has almost mastered all of these in four months. After all this you will then have an antagonist come towards the dog at which point you will say "watch him" and perhaps talk sternly towards the individual. If the dog barks you reward her and the individual retreats looking scared. If not the antagonist whacks the dog with a newspaper. This should not be undertaken without extreme care and supervision from a professional. The above responses were placed in fear of another idiot teaching the pit bull aggressive tendencies without proper training and responsibility. They are right for there unease as this breed already suffers a bad rap. In the hands of a bad handler they are a lawsuit waiting to happen. Read the first book listed for more information.

Answer by Pit Owner
Submitted on 1/15/2004
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StaffordshireLover said "why would you want to train your Pitt to attack? They are not working dogs and already have a bad rap" Why train Police dogs to attack? If we lived in a perfect world no one would! There are BAD people out there with bad intentions. Be prepared, or be a victim, it's your choice. Any yes, Pits are working dogs, historically for baiting bulls. Nowadays they excel at pulling weight and there is one working narcotics on the Mexican border. Look at the now famous Bandog Dread, WorkingPitbull.com. Most arguments against the working pit are based on emotion and not fact as evidenced in most responses. "bad rap, and it's because of people like you" Unless you know that the 7 month old pup owner is a drug dealer or dog fighter, you are wrong again. It's people training dogs in those situations that generally give the Pit the bad image and make the news. In fact, if you research bite work for K9's you'd find that most begin just after 5 months or so. Last thought, Pits are smart as evidenced by my personal experience with my dog Paige. She is more than eager to please, that is a great trait in a working dog. Smart, Athletic, willing to work, she also loves children, babies and other dogs. What more could you want?

Answer by Pit Bull Victim
Submitted on 1/28/2004
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My granddaughter was mauled to death by a Pit Bull. I learned from authorities the real truth that had happened that morning. It was far worse then the media had put it. The baby sitter left Somer in front of the television while she ran errand's. No one else in the house was awake. She did not tell anyone she was leaving, and was gone almost three hours, she left the house around 7:15 am. Sometime before 9:50 am that morning her 11 year old son was making breakfast, when he looked out the window and noticed their Pit Bull playing with what he believed was a doll. It wasn't until later when he went to take a diaper out to the trash that he noticed it was Somer laying there. He tried kicking the dog off of her, then he ran in the house to wake up his father. The boys father carried her in the house, but he was too devastated to do CPR. It was a little while later that the authorities received the call. She laid out there with the dog for at least 45 minutes or even longer, the authorities told us it was a slow death, because the dog did not hit any of her vital organs. She died from several traumatic wounds. The dog mauled the back of her head, neck and ears off. As terrible as it was, It was even more devastating to learn the real truth. It hurts to know she had no one out there to help her. She was my precious baby girl. Everybody that knew her agreed that she had a kind, sweet sparkle to her. She made such an impact on everybody's life, the two short years she was with us. Somer'sfather was reassured that the dogs were constantly locked up. The baby sitter is now facing criminal charges. This is not enough, I have to get something done about this. Animal control officers reported to the media that they did not receive any former complaints, but the detective interviewed several neighbors who said the dog had previously bitten two other children and a horse. The baby sitter openly admitted to detectives that she knew about the past complaints. I had an interview with Inside Edition, before I found out the real truth. Her friends keep telling the media false stories regarding the dog, such as animal control officers euthanized the wrong dog. That is false. They were more concerned about the dog than what had happened to somer. I am pursuing media coverage and other areas of information in order to get some type of law passed banning Pit Bulls. So at least in the state of California no other child will ever have to suffer this horrible tragedy ever again. I refuse to let Somer die in vain.

Answer by lil hustle
Submitted on 1/29/2004
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i think that to train a pit bull to attack is up to the dogs owner and family. if you get a pit at an early age and treat the dog like a human his natural instinct is to protect his or her family anyway. so do i think its necessary yes. because its too many bad guys and so called friends that like to steal and take whatever the decide to and could possibly break into your home a rob or do something to your kids or wife just dont put the dog on total strangers for enjoyment train your dog right and treat her good. pit know exactly what their masters want, i have a 3mo old blue brindle "pocatello" and she know command already and whenever i take her outside at night and a stranger approaches she makes sure that she is out in front of me, growls, and i tell her to "watch him" and she will keep an eye on them the whole time while looking back at me for directions. thats a damn good dog pits are truly a mans best friend.

Answer by Pit Bull Victim
Submitted on 1/29/2004
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Recently my 2 year old granddaughter Somer was mauled to death by her temporary baby sitter's Pit Bull. The baby sitter had left my granddaughter and her 1 year old brother unattended, while she went to run some errand's. Later on that morning the baby sitter's son was making breakfast. He had looked out the window and noticed their family's Pit Bull playing, with what he believed was a doll. It wasn't until later when he went to take some garbage out, that he realized it was Somer. He rushed inside to wake his father, who carried her inside the house. The father called 911, but when the 911 operator answered, he was too devastated to tell them their address. His little boy had to tell them. The father was also too horrified to do CPR. In the 911 tape he "said I can't, her eyes are still open." The mother, who was supposed to be watching over the children found out what had happened, when the father called her to tell her, during the 911 call. Authorities told us that she died a slow death, because the dog did not hit any of her vital organ's. The entire back of her head, neck and ears were torn off. The baby sitter later admitted that she knew that the dog had been aggressive towards other neighbors. Her husband begged her to get rid of the dog, for fear of their own children. But she refused. She luckily got off on the charge of Child Endangerment, and plead guilty to Involuntary Manslaughter and has been sentenced to the maximum of 1 year in jail under a plea bargain. SHE KNEW AND ADMITTED THAT SHE KNEW THE DOG HAD ATTACKED 2 OTHER CHILDREN AND A HORSE. Even Though, she still kept the dog. Also while running a so called (day care center). She had promised Somer's dad that the dog was always caged up and if she went anywhere, she would take his children with her. Later that day when the detectives questioned her, she was more concerned about the dog and if she was going to go to jail. The authorities were struck by her lack of concern about Somer. Also this Sunday, January, 25, 2004 an 18 month Santa Ana (Orange County) California, girl was attacked by their family's 90 pound Pit Bull. The 7 year old Pit Bull attacked her head, and had punctured her right eye. The dog did not have any history of attacking humans, authorities said. The girl was listed in serious condition. You can read this in the Los Angeles Times.

Answer by Pit Owner
Submitted on 1/29/2004
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~Linda Collinsworth(Grand Mother) It's sad that stories like Somer's happen. However you can't blame an entire breed because of a few bad seeds. Imagine if our legal system worked that way with humans, what ignorance. No women over 50 can drive because they drive too slow, get the picture. Fortunately the legislators in your state are wise because they have a law banning bread specific legislation. Apparently they know something you don't, which is that there are great Pit Bulls out there and bad Labs. Your situation was obviously due to negligence on the part of that baby sitter. From what I've seen it was part negligence on whomever let that lady watch there child. Check the references, as it seems there were warning signs.

Answer by One man and his dog
Submitted on 1/31/2004
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A major problem is that there are so many hack trainer's in existance. The vast majority of people do not know the correct method's of dog agitation. All modern protection dog sports are nothing like traditional, classic guard dog training. So your first problem is finding a knowledgable trainer. And they are basically extinct. Your second problem is that the vast majority of violent crimes are commited by family, friends, husbands, etc. of the victim. Often rendering attack dogs quite useless. Thirdly, people do not seem to have any real clue as to what goes on in court rooms or how lawyers and judges work. There is almost NO situation that a court will view favorably in regards to your dog mauling a so-called "bad-guy". In the real world if your dog bites someone you will be facing a million dollar lawsuit, criminal charges, media coverage, your dog will probably be put down or seized, and many other consequences. Also in a real world violent criminal encounter many guard dogs can and will be easily killed, maimed by the criminals. Many people find out the hard way that their big, bad, macho guard dog is no match against a group of drunken, drugged or enraged men with weapons. If you are afraid of getting beat up that badly then don't pass your paranoia onto an animal. Instead buy a bullet proof vest, a knife, a gun, security alarms, heavy duty locks, security camera's, audio recorders, and retain a high priced lawyer.

Answer by in response to the pit banning idea
Submitted on 2/4/2004
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i'm very sorry for what happened to your granddaughter but you must know that banning a whole breed because of one or two...incidents is not a good idea its actually quite stupid. i think that going by your idea all people should be banned because i sure know a lot of cases about PEOPLE killing people. I have a 7 year old pitt and a 2 year old cat. IVE NEVER BEEN BIT BY MY LOYAL PITT BUT MY CAT HAS ATTACKED ME MY 4 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER AND MY HUSBAND FOR NO REASON AT ALL the consequence was to declaw her NOT BAN ALL CATS. SOME PEOPLE AND ANIMALS HAVE A SCREW LOOSE EITHER FROM BEING TAUGHT OR GENETICS IT DOES NOT MEAN BANNING IS THE ANSWER FIND A POSITIVE WAY TO TAKE OUT YOUR ANGER LIKE TEACHING SAFETY OF BABYSITTING TO TEENAGERS AND ADULTS.

Answer by jtp0221
Submitted on 2/4/2004
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I am a proud new owner of a six week old American pit. I caught myself wanting to do all these new things with my dog and teaching him as fast as I can to do anything and everything in the book. I am a good dog owner and I do want to do things 110% by the book. So I told myself that I will just quit trying to go so fast with this as these things do take time, and a good amount of endless time over and over again to get them right and to keep them right. I do believe that even after you train your dog no matter what kind of dog (or any animal) for that matter you have to keep doing fallow up'sjust so you and you dog will always be on the same page. Just like with any learned skill if you don't train on that skill every now and than you will be a bit shady when it comes time to put that skill to use. This goes for people too. I know computers like the back of my hand and I often find myself pulling out the old book I have read so many times before to find out something I already thought I new. That's life! Nothing stays perfect. So I guess what I am really trying to say is a good dog owner in my opinion will take it very slow in the way he/she choice's to teach there pets, knowing when and not when it is right to teach there pet certain things. I also fell that every dog matures at different ages and not just by how old it is. So the owner needs to have a good feel for that dog and needs to be sure that it is right for that dog to learn. Foolish people and there need for speed in having the badest dog or one that is better than there friends is what I see being one of the main problems with any animal. If people would just slow down and take a breath life for them and there dog will be so much happier. Thanks John So no its not bad to train your dog, just know when it is the right time for him to be trained.

Answer by Tracker_383
Submitted on 2/8/2004
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To all those who dont agree with putting a dog down if it shows signs of aggression towards children. I have to say I am the father of a beautiful three year old girl. I have had my bull mastiff for 5 years and trained him to attack on command. If he ever went after my daughter, there would be and should not be any hesitation as to put him down! (after I had him quaranteened). If they do it once, they probably will do it again. My dogs have NEVER turned on me or my family. A good dog will let you know before you do anything it doesnt like. A good dog will require very little guard training if you treat it with respect. Raise it like a human. Love it, and it will love you back forever.

Answer by Pitt Bull Rescue
Submitted on 2/10/2004
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I have worked in animal rescue for several years now, and the majority of the pets I take are Pitt Bulls. These animals are flooding our shelters on a regular basis, and most are euthanized due to injuries obtained while used in dog fights, or the unpredictability that is often the result of attack training by former owners. I have had both extremes, the wonderful pitt who was well socialized with other animals and people when young, and the pitt who was kept chained as a guard dog, and taught to attack on command. The behavioral issues these animals suffer in result, even though most often unintentional, is often not something we cannot repair, which leaves us in the position we most hate to be in rescue. If the animal cannot be trusted.. it cannot be adopted. This perhaps is why pitt bull lovers such as myself, and rescue agents alike, become disgusted when we hear a question as simple as "How do I train my pitt bull to attack?" it seems a question asked in stupidity to those of us who deal with the horrible stigmatisms, and reputation that our beloved beasts endure resulting most often, from the rash, or irresponsible actions of former owners. These animals are wonderful creatures, and we must be careful not to abuse they're loyalty to us, and they're eagerness to please. AS for the arguement given about police dogs being trained to attack, and not seeing any difference in wishing to train your pitt to defend...there is only one flaw with this theory. Police dogs are given formal training, and are held by responsible handlers who use they're strengths only to hte benifit of mankind. Not one among us can deny that the pitt bull is not offered such a noble position the majority of the time.. and more than two thirds of the dogs trained to attack, are trained for the recreational sport of dog fighting, or are trianed by those who have no proper training themselves. There are those few exceptions of course, as there always is, and this cannot be denyed either. These animals offer us they're unconditional love and support, and we should do the same. In light of the current state of our world, one often wonders if they would not make a more noble, and loving member of society than we. If you ever doubt this, look here... http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/articles/conteart.html And see how loving and hopeful they stay, despite the brutal attacks inflicted upon them.They do not seek revenge, nor componsation.I find myself inspired by these wonderful creatures, and hope perhaps, that others find inspiration in this as well. Please be responsible pet owners, for they're sake. Much love.

Answer by Pit Bull Owner
Submitted on 2/10/2004
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RE:Answer by Pitt Bull Rescue I posted the original argument using the Police Dog as an example and I must agree with your conclusions as well. I also posted the first actual attempt to answer the question posted in this forum. My first and main point was that it takes "Lots Of Time" to train any dog the correct way. I know this because of my father whom like you is involved in dog issues as Director of Animal Control for Fulton county in Georgia. During the Vietnam era he trained guard dogs for Air Force bases and then for Customs to protect our borders. As a result of his experience, I have learned a great deal of what it means to be a responsible owner. My dog Paige is an extraordinary example of what a great Pit Bull is. At almost two years of age she is learning to befriend everyone and everything though my intensive efforts to socialize her everyday. I bring up police dogs to raise the question of the handlers motivation and to point out that good dogs can also be attack dogs. If the motivation of a dog owner is good then the training is good. Motivation or the why question is then the starting point for determining the appropriateness of such training. Why then would I train my dog to attack on command? For me the answer is pragmatic. I believe it is wrong to steal or harm others but unfortunately some do not. Having a dog attack someone who enters my house uninvited with bad intentions deserves the bad consequences. With Paige trained to attack under these circumstances I have the opportunity to ready my shotgun. For my safety and hers, learning to attack could save our lives some day. When someone has broken into your house and put a gun to your brothers head, you tend to be overly cautious in terms of your families protection. Paige is but one deterrent among many I employ to assure myself that the bad guys get what's due. Our government has long understood the value of the guard dog. During the Vietnam war alone it is estimated they saved 10,000 lives. I too see the value in their service and hope that the day will never come when Paige saves my life.

Answer by Pitbullowner
Submitted on 2/12/2004
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I was raised with pitbulls that my parents owned and I own 5 pitbulls right now. If you choose to have your dog to attack on command it is best to send the dog to a well-known training academy(I.E. a police K9 academy is the best) if you have no experience. Pitbulls ARE working dogs and they are used to guard and to protect. They have that in their blood. If you treat your dog right then they'll treat you right and protect you until their death. Unfortunately, pitbulls do attack but it is not their fault. It is THE NEGLIGENT OWNERS who choose to beat their dog that makes a pitbull turn. The dog associates the pain of the beating to the human and relates any and all pain to humans. I mean lets look at this one minute...do you honestly think a dog is going to turn all of a sudden despite the fact that the owner has taken good care of the dog???I think not. That is what makes a pitbull turn. And yes, pitbulls can weigh over 120 pounds. An owner can put 1-pound weights around the dogs collar to make it gain strength. I have a year and a half Pitbull who weighs 110 pounds right now.

Answer by Responce to CARL
Submitted on 2/15/2004
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It seems you haven't thoroughly thought about what you've said. You seemingly contradict yourself when you state pit bulls are automatically protective then go on to state that you shouldn't train your dog not to bite,(part of advanced training). It seems to me that having a dog that is naturally protective should in fact receive the most training because these are the dogs most likely to bite, am I right? Also, if you have a naturally protective dog isn't that a good trait in a guard dog? Maybe I'm stupid but I think so. Then you go on to say they were not originally breed as guard dogs. Really, perhaps you should contact the UKC and get them to revise their history statement about the pit bull. It's seems the first thing they mention ranchers using them for is protection. Then again based on your logic, the Rottweiler shouldn't be used either because they were originally used for herding. Give me a break! http://www.ukcdogs.com/breeds/terriers/americanpitbullterrier.std.shtml

Answer by PitbullOwner
Submitted on 2/21/2004
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For all you Pitbull lovers: Please, Please go to this site http://www.barkingbuddies.com/forum/ and go to Dangerous Dog Breed These people are the reason why pitbulls have a bad name. This is what I got off of my APBT group on MSN From: bigstacebaby (Original Message) Sent: 1/21/2004 9:58 PM Hey Ya'll I have came across this forum, and these people are awful. First of all did you know that people with pit bulls that weigh over 50 pounds are not full blooded and if they are registered the papers had to be hung? Did you know that all papers are hung? Did you know that as long as the dogs are matched correctly it's okay to fight them? Did you know that if you haven't in depth researched your dogs peds you must not love your dogs enough to find out their background. Pit bulls were only bred to fight and not to be pets. Did you know that if your dogs are big they are CURRS and should be put down humanely? Did you know dogmen or breeders purposely breed the dogs to fight and they consider that bettering the breed? Their reasoning, it keeps them the small size and good human temperment. I have been arguing with these people, first it started with how I diagree with fighting and that it's terrible. Then I made the mistake of saying that my dogs came from gamebred dogs who were fought along long time ago. After that they just basically say I'm a liar and that my dogs can't possibly be full blooded APBT. And 4 years ago before I knew alot about the I offered the guy to breed a pit w/ a pressa. Now, I would never do so but I got jumped on for that. Anyway check these idiots out Their names are HMMMM and Gozon read some of the BS they say. and please back me up on the fighting and that everyone does not use their pits for fighting,but love them as one of the family.

Answer by JustMyExperience
Submitted on 3/11/2004
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I also find that all dogs are loyal to owners who love them and treat them well. I had a mut, Husky/Lab mix, who was extremely protective of us, despite the fact that we taught him absolutely NO violence. One night there was a stanger outside our house, and Oreo (he was black and white) barked and growled to alert us and kept close eye on him until I could get dressed and make it outside, gun in hand. I think any dog should be an "ALERT" dog, not an "ATTACK" dog. Also, any dog who causes ANY harm to an innocent should absolutely be put down, and a bullet to the head, as terrible as it may sound, is just as humane as having him euthanised. It is understandable if the animal is being beaten or hurt in any way because self-preservation is instinct, but to hurt a taunting child is unacceptable.

Answer by eve028
Submitted on 3/15/2004
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I got my pitt from the pound and he is a bit aggressive. God only knows how he was handled before i got him. However, he is the most loyal loving family dog i have ever seen, not to mention smart. He loves my kids and is completely loyal to our family. He is a bit aggresive, but not due to his breed but probably his former owner. We built a big fence and handle him responsibly. He wont allow strangers to come to the house and often give warnings to those playing too rough with my kids. I dont think any kind of attack command would ever be needed if someone was hurting our family. And i would definitly look at another pitt for my next dog. To all you pitt haters, i trust this dog with my kids life. Protection of families is also a consideration when looking at a breed. Pitts have hurt people but they have saved people too. Cant stereotype!

Answer by john
Submitted on 3/17/2004
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I think you should train pits to attack so if someone should break into your home that way you will know you and your family is safe. I have raised pits all my life and have never had one bite unless i commanded it to. I have so much respect for pits and think anyone that hates pits needs to own one before they judge them. It pises me off that so many people has gave pits a bad repretation and have never owned one. so for anyone against pitbulls heres a story for you. Me and my niece were walking my 1 year old pit when we came up on a pack of chows that lived right down the road from me. The chows spotted us and started after us (we were a good running distance from the house) so i picked my niece up and booked it. Meanwhile my pit stayed there and faught them off long enough for us to get back to the house. so for anyone who dont like pits think about my niece and all the other stories in this room.

Answer by dnuf
Submitted on 3/25/2004
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My son brought a pit home without an invitation. She's chewed the hell out of everything in the house, including parts of the house. She is the very best, most fun, best looking, smartest dog I've ever had. We try to avoid playing rough with her cause she's toooooo aggressive. My wife was ready to shoot her, after the loss of the $1000.00 leather chair, now she loves her too! She's naturally protective and very loving. She too, sleeps with my youngest. I've never hit her, I can quietly tell her no and she will stop acting up. What a great dog. I can't imagine training her to hurt someone, she scares us just as she is naturally. I'd hate to see would happens if she were to nip a neighbor. Training one to attack is like owning a cannon. It would be loading and aiming it, with a lit smoke in your mouth.

Answer by reply to death row dumba$$
Submitted on 4/6/2004
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If you think pitts are just mindless fighters you are irresponsible and cold hearted as well as IGNORANT. Those dogs have feelings and emotions too and they have the ability to be your best and most loved companion. Misbehaving and disobedient dogs are the OWNER'S fault and they are the ones that are to blame for the way a dog comes out. Yes, there are a few bad apples in the bunch but there are bad people too. By and large, ALL dogs have the potential to be REALLY GREAT COMPANIONS. Sure if you leave your Damd dog tied out all day long and don't teach them anything they will show it. If you leave them caged up all day long they will show it. Not just pitts but all dogs. In the wild dogs are pack animals and they need constant interaction with others to learn and develop into mature, responsible adults and if you F*ING leave them ALONE ALL DAY EVERY DAY you are isolating them from interacting with one another and making them SCREWED UP IN THE HEAD. If you have so many pitts you really should go and get some education about the dogs you know so little about. You obviously type like someone who is poorly educated and that either doesn't know enough about his pitts or just doesn't bother to try. My pitt, Grace, is my best friend. I have been working with her since she was a little pup and she a great protector as well as a play buddy for my children. I trust her 100% and she has shown me that she would do anything to protect my family and we would her as well. She sleeps sprawled out all over my kids at night and she loves them to death. I trust her all the way and she is a better, more loyal friend to me than ANY HUMAN out there!! Why do some of you ignorant bastards want to give the pitt such a bad name?? Why ban the whole breed because of a few retards that dont know how to take care of animals. Well I say lets punnish the retards and keep the dogs!!!

Answer by in response to Dominos Dumba$$
Submitted on 4/8/2004
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So what you are saying is law officers who have trained working dogs are idiots right? What you are saying is their dogs are visious killers right? You are saying that dogs that serve as estate guardians are idiots too right? Their dogs maul them and the kiddies too RIGHT??? Do you KNOW anything about attack training? Obviously not. Shut your mouth unless you have something educated to say. Do your homework and then come back and see me mmmkay? Attack training doesn't turn a dog into a bloodthirsty murderer. However its safe to say that if you DON'T know what you are doing when you undertake something like this you are liable to make your dog worse rather than better. I have an idea. Lets only post on here unless we know what we are talking about okay. It saves you from looking REEEEEEALLY stupid.

Answer by my nose is red
Submitted on 4/9/2004
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the key word is teach when you teach you show the right way some dogs need more discipline than others people say a dog will protect you if you love them but some dogs (any breed not just pits are over protective)so showing them when to instead of them taking upon themselves unless needed teaching is a good thing if it's good enough for the police why is'nt it good enough for our dogs they call police the cities finest that could have just as easy been some person walking down the street that killed that guys granddaughter there are alot of people who have still got there children because of a dog including pit bulls they are good dogs but sometimes you get one that's not right in the head just like some people so like i said when you teach your dog you give him that discipline that even we need

Answer by Shane
Submitted on 4/10/2004
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I am the very proud owner of a 2 year old, 75 lbs. male gator red nose pit bull. Anyone on here that has anything bad to say about the breed obviously has never met a dog like mine and should concider shutting their mouths until they know the true facts about pit bulls and the way they are raised. I purchased my dog when he was 1 year old from a dog shelter. He listens to my every command, he is eager to learn anything I would attempt to teach him. He plays with other dogs frequently, male and female, large and small. my girlfriend has a minurater pincher and the dog is an ancle-biter, but my pit will never harm him. they play like they were born in the same litter. I have been around pits since I was an infant and I've seen the crazy ones that were mistreated. but no pit that I have ever owned and trained has been any bit of a bad dog. once again, DO NOT talk bad things about the breed because you obviously don't know what its like to have a well trained pit bull.

Answer by True_Pits
Submitted on 4/11/2004
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There are just too many bad people in the world, and those stupid enough to make their pit mean!!! Others stupidly claming to have a 7 month old attack trained...lol <<<The killers are the ones that were abused and mistreated, usualy dogs bread to fight are the ones that get loose and attack a person.>>> SHANE you tell other people to shut their mouths until they learn the true facts of Pit Bulls yet you come up with your own non-facts!!! Dogs bred to fight are the best dogs you can find IMO, they are STABLE, have the utmost determination, and the biggest thing is they don't get loose and if they did the last thing you would find them doing is attacking a human you idiot. How can you own a breed of dog and not even learn of its history and not have researched the breed. Another thing I'm wondering is how do you know your pit is Gator when you purchased it from an animal shelter where the dogs usually have an unkown lineage? Truth be told the Pit Bulls that attack people are inproperly socialized and trained to be biters. They are poorly bred, no amount of training or proper raising could ever make them anything but a man biter, then their are other poorly bred dogs without confidence who could develop fear aggression ONLY IF they are not well socialized and re enforced positivly and had their confidence build. Your theory is incorrect, many abused and mistreated pits are rescued and act just fine. It takes a certain kind of dog in these hands to get a vicious Pit Bull, but a lot of these owners still don't abuse the dogs they just harbor the dogs aggression and make it worse and worse, until they have a crazy dog. Then their are the wonderful gamebred dogs who would never bite a person, by the way you don't train them to fight either, but thats another story. Try using some logic if they bit people you wouldn't be safe handling the dogs, you wouldn't be safe treating wounds(like you aren't with most other breeds out there besides the Pit Bull) you wouldn't be safe around them running/playing/feeding/vaccinating, your kids wouldn't be safe playing, tugginh and helping out in the yard, they dogs wouldn't be safe around all the many other human beings at the dog show where lots of dogs have either been rolled/tested and possibly are fighting Champions competing in conformation shows. Those Lil Rascals wouldn't have been safe on the show with Petey ALL THOSE YEARS if what you were saying is really true, he's sire is one of the most notorious dogs ever Tudor's Black Jack 16 time winner!! Petey was fine in all other situations as well and was always a celebraty getting lots of attention never showing any human aggression. People need to put some thought into what they say..

Answer by True_Pits
Submitted on 4/12/2004
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This board is just so riddled with ignorance! Purebred, not half, cross, or bandoggs don't weigh over 120lbs like some people are trying to say. Tabetha you may believe the guy and be in the same situation but its not the truth. You say OTHERS don't know about them but you don't even know how to spell Pit Bull yet your trying to be some voice of knowledge? What bloodlines do either you are the other guy with a 120lbs Pit Bull have? Do you even know? If you don't know then you can't say. If you do, then its probably mixed. Like you have this other idiot saying they DO EXIST but then he goes shooting his mouth off 100lbs Pit Bull out of big parents so they EXIST but then he adds the bloodlines which tells you they don't exist pure. Anyone care to learn something. Becareful what you believe, research yourself, talk to the breeders who know their stuff. If you've got a huge Pit Bull look at what it consist of and research those lines to find out the truth. DAGGER isn't a pure line, I or no one else(with a couple exceptions maybe) can tell you what that line was crossed with. Omar won't give up the secret, doesn't deny mixing in another breed other than APBT but isn't going to give his away like others have, its his secret recipe for his winning weight pull dogs. EDDINGTON now that extremely funny because eddington mixed his dogs, told the truth about mixing them, ect and its not something that every APBT doesn't know. Maybe you are just new to the APBT, maybe on a serious level, maybe your a pet owner and thats a good excuse....but eddington is mixed and you can ask anyone and they won't have any problem telling you the truth about Eddie's dog, what he did, why he did and how he got away with it all. How do you consider them as existing (120lbs APBTs) when these dogs are not pure?

Answer by True_Pits
Submitted on 4/17/2004
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I have seen that site many times before. One thing you need to be aware of is Pit Bulls don't need to be trained to fight. But the big thing is this question has nothing to do with dog fighting. It was another irresponsible person wanting to know how to train their Pit Bull to attack on command. The website you posted is about neglectful dog fighters and a few other abuses. Some dogs have successfully been made aggressive, and do even do these actions without abuse. This is because of bad breeding and the training methods used, especially when they start instilling this human aggression young into their pups. Drilling in their head that they should be alert to people and go further to act aggressivly all the way up to the dog biting.

Answer by True_Pits
Submitted on 4/21/2004
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<<<Yes but chances are that training them to fight will gear up that instinct.>>> The thing with Pit Bulls is you don't have to train them to fight. You can and its bad for them. It would probably make them unstable? But human and animal aggression are two unrelated things, so I was thinking in terms of natural dog aggression that Pit Bulls can have and not something that has been trained into the dogs. I never understand what posses people to train their dog to be aggressive to dogs or people or anything. They are just adding a liability, especially with insurance. <<<Many Humane Societies will euthanize Pitts who have been in dog fights because they are considered to be too dangerous to be out in the public and vice versa.>>> But we all know the HS is full of it and don't know what they are doing. They are seeing what they think is a needed, but luckily many rescues get the dogs so they can live our good, long live as the sweet animals they are. Many put down Pit Bulls period, not because they have been fought, they put them down automatically including 6 week old puppies which I find sick. <<Pitts who attack people are also generally euthanized.>>> Generally! DAMN a Pit Bull who so much as growls at a person should be put down immediatly let alone attacks.

Answer by PitLover
Submitted on 4/24/2004
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how can you say that " a Pit Bull who so much at growls at a person should be put down immediately let alone attacks" You can't generalize like that!!! Especially without knowing the situation and circumstances. Let's say the dog is being harassed by kids, then it may growl or what if someone bugs the dog while he has a toy, treat in his mouth...it my growl. So your saying that no matter what, the animal should be put down...well your WRONG!( and then you bring up the whole issue that Pitt Bulls are being euthanized for no reason!) And you also say that animal and human aggression are two unrelated things!! What ARE you talking about!!! I think that fightforlife brought up an excellent point in saying that training a dog to attack on command makes the dog unpredictable (regardless of whether it is trained to attack another animal or person)For instance..would you trust a dog who was taught to fight against other dogs around your children...neices...nephews, whatever! No! Just what I thought. So i would suggest that you think about what your writing before acting all smart! And one more thing, before dissing the HS, realize that although YOU may not agree with some of their polices, realize that they are doing what they can with limited resources and staff and that it's not only baby Pit Bulls that they put down but Golden retrievers, labs, whatever but they do what they can...which is probably more than you're doing!!

Answer by True_pits
Submitted on 4/24/2004
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I don't know what your problem is or what kind of jerk you are PitLover with serious issues. <<<how can you say that " a Pit Bull who so much at growls at a person should be put down immediately let alone attacks" You can't generalize like that!!! Especially without knowing the situation and circumstances.>>> Yes I can because I know the breed. Of course their is a logical exception the dog is defending its owner in a case of really being threatened being that they should have good discretion. Other than that the Pit Bull should be people friendly and trustworthy having good nerves under any circumstances. Growling shows aggression. <<<Let's say the dog is being harassed by kids, then it may growl or what if someone bugs the dog while he has a toy, treat in his mouth...it my growl.>>> Harassed by some kids? Like how? Kids should be the lease of a Pit Bulls worries. They have (or are supposed to have) a deep love for children, true tolerance and they also have high pain tolerance and take things that other dogs may find offensive as love pats. They just eat it up. Having a toy/treat in its mouth is no excuse for a Pit Bull to growl. They are supposed to be naturally submissive to people. If not something is wrong with them. I've enver had one growl at me for doing such a thing and kids could easily take food or treats out of their mouths. When I was a kid around APBTs I was never growled at. There are no excuses for a human aggressive dog and no place for them. Too bad nobody cares and keeps their dogs around until they one day attack, so sad that now I must live in a world where Pit Bulls are feared and hated because of others ignorance, sad and heart breaking that my Grandchildren in the worse case may not get to see a Pit Bull. What is supposed to be one of the trustworthy and gentlest animals alive. <<<So your saying that no matter what, the animal should be put down...well your WRONG!( and then you bring up the whole issue that Pitt Bulls are being euthanized for no reason!)>>> Who are you to tell me I'm wrong. If YOU knew about the breed you would no that human aggression in any form is never acceptable. Especially when children are concerned. You would know a good breeder wouldn't breed people aggressive dogs and responsible owners wouldn't keep them. You would know that it is against the nature of the breed, disqualified at a show if your dog exibits it and against the standard. For obvious reasons. <<<And you also say that animal and human aggression are two unrelated things!! What ARE you talking about!!!>>> Its kind of obvious what I'm talking about. Animals aggression and people aggression are 2 unrelated traits. A dog could have both. What do you care you don't seem to have a problem with dogs that growl at humans which is a sign of aggression and a warning. I don't know how clearer it could be. Your're the one who seems to not know the truth of the APBT, their temeperament nature, ect. How clearer can you get? <<I think that fightforlife brought up an excellent point in saying that training a dog to attack on command makes the dog unpredictable (regardless of whether it is trained to attack another animal or person)>> I never said they would not be. I said I was thinking of nature animal aggression so it was my mistake. And the fact that many dogs are trained to be aggressive to other dogs and egged on by their owners but still love people. Its the owners who make them attack stray dogs by teaching them these bad things but they can still distinguish a person from an animal. Not all can and their are lots that have been made animal aggressive that would also go after people especially little kids. <<For instance..would you trust a dog who was taught to fight against other dogs around your children...neices...nephews, whatever!>> I probably wouldn't trust a dog from any type of lowlife whether they taught the dog to fight or attack people or just owned the dog. Wouldn't trust their dogs because they are not good owners and probably have poorly bred dog in the first place. Not much I can say I wouldn't trust a dog that growled at my kids, how about you? Guess they were too close to the dog when it had a toy and since it already warned the child the last time with a growl its ok for them to attack the child this time. Maybe you just have trouble reading or maybe you just like to rant. Its right above your post that its bad for them and would probably make them unstable. training them to fight that is. <<So i would suggest that you think about what your writing before acting all smart!>> Your the one acting smart...lol I'm not acting just stating the facts. Your the one who is ok with human aggressive Pits not me. Thats not smart at all. Sorry I spoke the truth of human aggression and animal aggression being unrelated. I never mentioned an abused and poorly trained dog to not be dangerous. NEVER. And actually attack dogs are not dangerous when they are properly trained so who is the one who doesn't know about dogs here. SCH dogs have to be OB trained and pretty stable to begin with. <<before dissing the HS, realize that although YOU may not agree with some of their polices, realize that they are doing what they can with limited resources and staff and that it's not only baby Pit Bulls that they put down but Golden retrievers, labs, whatever but they do what they can...which is probably more than you're doing!!>> I think you have serious mental problems because you go off on things that are not even rellevent. You make crazy statments then are against others doing crazy things like training to fight. Then you talk about other breeds like Lab, Goldens, ect being put down which just isn't true. Well DUH they have to put some dogs down of other breeds and obviously no shelter has room for all dogs. On the otherhand their ignorance about Pit Bulls is sickening and they are on national television lying about the breed and spreading fear. And yes Pit Bulls are the only breed they put down without giving a 2nd chance so what does that have to do with these other breeds? All one person has to do is lie and say the dogs are fighters or in others they have an auto policy for putting pits down regardless of background and age. So you're the one who has no clue. I don't see how you can love the breed but support their auto put downs of ANY Pit Bull. What the hell am I supposed to be doing exactly? Taking innocent dogs(Pit Bulls) and putting them to sleep? To me that sounds like euthenizing with no reason vs putting down a ppl aggressive dog. So what exaclty are you doing?

Answer by Meka
Submitted on 4/24/2004
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We recently went to Va. to see my family. We took 2 of our Pits & our Doberman. We tried letting them off of the leashes, but the Pits would NOT stop chasing the cows. They ALL chased the cows, but Skyy, (the Doberman), stopped when we told her to. We had to chain Missy & Rogue, (2 Pits), up, because they would NOT stop chasing the cows. So, while they were chained, Missy got upset because the cows were "taunting" her. They were standing about 20 ft. away from her, just mooing away. She was barking & growling & acting up. She gave a couple of hard tugs & snapped her collar into. I was watching her, but didn't think she could/would actually break her collar! So, she ran off, as hard as she could run, into the field after the cows. We chased her & yelled at her trying to catch her, so she didn't get stomped. She continued to run full force & chase the cows. After a couple of minutes, she kind of cornered one, ( I guess she had worn it down), & she jumped up on it's back end. Not actually on it's butt, but on the top side of it's leg, a few inches below it's hip. It was freaking out & she would NOT let go. We finally got across the field & got to her, but she still wouldn't let go. She was just hanging on & biting the crap out of the cow. In order to get her off of it, I grabbed her around her tummy & picked her straight up. The whole time she was growling & biting the cow. She NEVER made an attempt to bite me, or anyone else. She was just the happiest dog in the world. Like most APBTs she is a friendly outgoing dog, a lover of people, true love for kids and for her owners. She is in no way dangerous, vicious or aggressive. I fully trust ALL of my dogs. They are great with my son, they are great with other people. They do have dog, (animal) aggression, like Most Pits, as well as several other breeds, but they have NEVER shown any human aggression. She didn't pass up an opportunity to get after a cow. Like any bulldog probably would. Which shows even Pet Bulls have their instincts intact and they are not bred out of them. This is what Missy can be found doing most of her days. http://a8.cpimg.com/image/2C/32/32642348-36a7-01BA0168-.jpg

Answer by Matty C.
Submitted on 4/24/2004
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I have owned APBTs all of my life and I have grown up with them and so have my children. And from experience,I know that Pits love children but, like any dog, they do have limits. So when one day, one of my Pits growled at one of my kids, I didn't rush him to the vet's and have him put down. It would be like killing a family member. Instead, I took him to an animal behaviorist and worked with him so that he would not act aggressively like he did. THAT doesn't mean that I support human aggression, it just means that i care enough about my dog to do something about it!!! And although breeding lines play a major part in a dog's temperment, each dog will develop their own personality! so it is not a matter of lowlifes or not! (True_pits) And then you also contradict yourself... "their are lots(of APBTs) that have been made animal aggressive that would also go after people especially little kids." But then you say... "Sorry I spoke the truth of human aggression and animal aggression being unrelated." So honestly, don't tell other people that they are unqualified to give their opinion when you have trouble getting your info right!.

Answer by Titan
Submitted on 4/26/2004
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I am raising my third unrelated pit. One died from distemper, one was stolen and now I have a beautiful male red nose that my boyfriend and I are raising as our baby. I raised all of them with the same love. The first two never showed signs of aggression toward people. Titan is the one I have now. I got him at six weeks. One week after I got him he starting growling in more that just a playful way. Just when I would hold him to gently hug him. He is one and half years old now and he is aggressive toward other animals and he will still growl at me every now and then. Mostly over food and toys. My boyfriend smacked his butt one day because he wouldn't go outside and he showed his teeth and lunged at him. He also growls at the vet assistants and tries to pull away from them even when they take his leash from me. Especially when they are getting him out of his kennel to dip him. He hasn't bitten anyone yet but I fear that he may. He doesn't like to cuddle or even be petted. He is nice about it but runs away and shows no interest except in playing. He's very loyal. When I shut him out of a room he lays by the door until I come out. What do you guys think about this off and on aggression toward his loving Mom and Dad and other people?

Answer by True_Pits
Submitted on 4/26/2004
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WOW Matty C what an accomplishment, I 2 have been around Pit Bulls my whole life, but thank God they were well bred with the breeds true character in mind and had the super stable temperament of the breed. <<so it is not a matter of lowlifes or not! (True_pits)>> Your dog, your life your choice, I for one (my life, dog, choice) would never get any type of dog (puppy or not) from a lowlife, puppy mill or BYB. I won't take chance like that. And then you also contradict yourself... "their are lots(of APBTs) that have been made animal aggressive that would also go after people especially little kids." But then you say... "Sorry I spoke the truth of human aggression and animal aggression being unrelated." How did I contradict myself? Human and animal aggression is unrelated and thats true in most breeds not just the APBT. Otherwise those rhodision ridgebacks would have been after their masters and attacked all the kids they were left to babysit, smae for the nordic spitz breeds who fought bears but stayed home with the kids, tolerant and protective. Guess that means those people loving, family oriented elkhounds are also dangerous because they hunted bear, elk, moose, bear, puma you name. Nope I don't think so they like people and are especially sensitive to kids. Sorry but NONE of my dogs are dangerous to any human being (unless I would in REAL danger) dog aggressive or not, they love people kids especially. <<So honestly, don't tell other people that they are unqualified to give their opinion when you have trouble getting your info right!.>> Sorry my info is correct. a dog who is TRAINED (which means abused, mistreated, coaxed, encourage and very scared) into attacking other dogs MAY be unstable and go after kids because of the way they move. #2 They will probably end up biting other people its called fear aggression. Wouldn't attack the master in most cases but will other people who they are afraid of. Guess you couldn't read the key word MADE. I wouldn't trust a dog that has been made to be aggressive in any form. So I don't know what info I'm supposed to be getting right? Lots of APBTs are dog aggressive, they were used for Bull baiting and are now used for hog catching but not people aggressive in the least. I don't know what info your talking about?? Or what breeder sold you this crap because its not true. I'm still here, very alive, never been bitten or growled at whether the dogs were aggressive or not to animals. For a fact some of them were. But not aggressive to me, these dogs werent trained to be dog aggressive either.

Answer by True_Pits
Submitted on 4/27/2004
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Maybe it would be a good idea for all the judges, breeders and officials to get together for one day line up everyone and educate them. It might solve a lot of problems, a free siminar and they don't have to read a book or anything. I love my dogs and trust them around people. I love the breed and always will. Dogs that exhibit human aggression are not correct to the breed and should never be bred whether the problem is corrected or not. They can pass on an unstable and even worse temperament. They should never be made people aggressive or into attack dogs. They may become dog aggressive and every owner needs to be prepared for this and properly socialize their dog in all situations. I can just think of one quick bit where I was showing an adult male. This dog is so friendly, the friendliest dog I have ever owned or met. He is easily excited by people and loves them. Has a wonderful disposition with kids and men really seem to make him happy. A lot will just ignore and not want to pet him. So when one pays attention to him he's happy. This time he was stacked and just perfect. Then the judge came up to him and he started wagging his tail, then threw himself on the ground all happy while he was rolling on his back. The judge just looked at me, smiled and said he sure is happy. Then said thank you and went on. Got the ribbons to award them and the dog placed. With his happy self, a completly trustworthy dog yet he is dog aggressive. This was on sunday he had also placed on sat and had been acting up, really trying to get the other dogs who were tryng to get him. He is such a great dog!!! Is dog aggressive but loves people, would never harm any one. He is a true representation of the breed in everyway. I have the security of knowing that the APBT has been bred to be sensitive and people friendly for 200 years. The pleasure of knowing exactly where my dogs have come from, who bred them and what they were bred down from. To know they are just as honest as they were 200 years ago. To know the breeders bred responsible with dogs having the correct temeperaments and true, solid, reps of their breed.

Answer by pit bull owner
Submitted on 4/29/2004
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the thing I hate most about telling people that I own a pit bull is all the neg. remarks I hear. I have a 11 year old pit that I got when he was 2 weeks old. he is a gentle dog never harmed anyone, I have raised him around kids and he has never tried to bite or harm them. I think pit bulls have a bad reputation because of the owners that raise them mean and to kill and attack.dogs know what they are taught. I have recently found out that pit bull owners are required to register there dogs and carry 100,000 home owners insurance incase the dog attacks. I think if owners of pitbulls have to register so does everyone else.every dog can be dangerous and bite no matter what kind of dog it is. people needs to stop giving pit bulls a bad name. i do admit there are some mean pit bulls but again the owners made them mean!!!!

Answer by bottlefednmama
Submitted on 5/9/2004
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i am 19 years old and i work for an animal rescue group in san antonio. i am bottle feeding 7 pitbull puppies and i am going to find them homes where if that question was ever asked to me i would tell them to f*ck off. i don't need my babies to go to homes where they will be expected to "attack on command". if you own one and u have a kid, hypothetically, what if the kid doesn't like another kid in the neighborhood and decides to "sick" the dog on them? it is irresponsible. i know the stats on this. the average ownership of a dog is about 2 years...so, if you have trained your dog to do this, any breed really, and someone playfully, yet understandably by the dog interperets it as a command they will do it. wow a dog doing what it is trained to do...and they wonder why there is a stigma! thousands of innocent pitbull puppies under the age of 1 yr are put down in san antonio alone yearly! that is just my city...imagine how many of those would not have been put down if the owner hadn't bred them in the first place. back yard breeding is the #1 cause of the most aggressive pits. also, the person who took her pit and Dobe to the farm, and let them frolick with the cows ....if you studied up on the breed you would know that they were initially bred to attack and fight bulls, hence bull and terrier as ONE of the original names of the breed... thank you

Answer by game dog owner
Submitted on 5/18/2004
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geez, it seems like true_pit is the only one educated about this ancient breed, the true pit, not the improperly bred crack heads but the "tru pit!" I feel sorry for the truely educated because they are constantly bombarded with ignorance. You all need to do a lot more homework! Research! Research how they were bred, learn about gameness and how aggressiveness was bred out for many generations. This is why all my game dogs are extremely protective & agressive among other animals and way too friendly around humans�the aggressiveness was bred out!!!! Now a days finding a properly bred pit is like gold. Do your homework, then present your views logically. None of your personal views coincided with the facts of this breed except for a very select few, for example; like what tru_pit has said. Have some mercy on his soul and educate yourselves!!! Read the book �Game dog� and others written by those who are the most knowledgeable of how this superior breed was made.

Answer by True_Pits
Submitted on 5/26/2004
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Pit Owner??? Why would I want to check them out if they are stupid? There is enough stupidity on this topic to fill me up. Thanks for the info on your dog, I hope she does well and shows that she is a good representation of the breed and a do all dog. rights to the breed I do own, I'm an American citizen living in the US with rights to own whatever dog I please. Anyone can own a dog. Kind of sad because of all the abused dogs out there and people who don't take care of their dogs. But they are said to have just as much right to own dogs as anyone else and can do what they want to their dog. Unless they are charged and not allowed to own dogs while on parole. What kind of law is that, once they are off parole they can own a dog again?

Answer by hmmm
Submitted on 5/26/2004
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im stupid? why would you think that?because you disagree? you have every right to disagree, but maybe next time you could say it to me,rather then on another forum. just for the record,no im not as educated as some and i don't use proper grammar but don't let that fool you, i am a borderline genius who excels in spatical intelligence, i fall into the top 2% of this countrys college graduates without any education after high school.that can not be learned and does not qualify me as stupid.although explaining this to you is not the brightest thing i have ever done, i thought you should know who you called stupid.i know you will have some smart ass comments for me, but i expect no less from a person such as yourself. if you would like, i would love to debate this further civilly without insults, but if not, i can lower myself to any level so feel free to speak your mind with me.

Answer by hmmm
Submitted on 5/26/2004
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also, i would like to mention that im not all against attack training, just passive attack training. plus i do not feel the pitbull is the ultimate guard dog and i know your books will agree with that. i have had one dog defend a friend very successfully and it was out of love not training.if you need to train your dog to protect,then your doing something wrong with them and will never know the true meaning of "protection". my dogs will protect me just as well as yours will you only mine do it because they want too,not have too.the only positive i see in attack training is the dogs are taught acceptable bites and not fatal bites(in respectable training classes).I KNOW your books say the pitbull is a good guard dog, but they also say there is better breeds for this purpose. you are one of the people that are helping this breed look bad. besides its pretty pathetic to need a dog to attack for you,i only need a dog to defend my family, and that requires no training, only love. i hope you don't teach your children the commands for the dog to attack when your not around, and when you are around you shouldn't need a dog to do your battles for you, but since you do, there are better man-stoppers then a pitbull and the people who REALLY need them know this, only the people who want to intimidate don't.

Answer by Pit Owner
Submitted on 5/28/2004
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How funny hmmm, you just happened to be watching this forum or should I call you True_Pits. Come on just admit it, you know your IP will show unless your a computer whiz too. For someone self-proclaimed to be in the top 2% spatially you sure can't pull off two personas well, at least not to me. Quite frankly I don't believe your that smart anyway, no offense, Internet scores are not usually valid. Even if I concede on the spatial issue you certainly realize intelligence can be defined in many ways. Just because you play Nintendo well doesn't mean your Emotional Intelligence is up to par. Read the book by Daniel Goleman for a further explanation, it's a very good book. So in essence, I am calling you emotionally stupid. You should thank me for this insight because you can improve. I would gather you act differently in person. Either way, if you feed the evil within you it will grow. So what if a Pit isn�t the �best� dog for guard training. Your definition of best is certainly different from mine. Every situation is different; perhaps a Pit is the best guard dog for certain people in a certain situation. I�ll be real with you too, I didn�t pick out my dog, the wife did, at the pound and not with the intentions of training her to bite. Paige is first and foremost a dog I love. Who are you to say I shouldn�t need a dog to do my battles for me? You must be an expert on my situation. LOL... Are you also saying parents shouldn�t send their children to karate class? I say they should, increasing a dogs confidence is good for them in much the same way as karate for kids. Just because a child is the weakest in his class doesn�t bar him from being his best. Pits� should be their best too.

Answer by Josh
Submitted on 6/2/2004
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American Staffordshire Terriers, and Pit Bulls, are not normally considered guard dogs, but there are exceptions. The truth is that they were bred solely to fight other dogs(aka the old Whippits, English Bulldogs, etc.) but have branched out dramatically over the past 100 years due to breeding and popularity. It is now quite feasible to find a terrier breed that is adept at weight pulling, guarding, or even attacking. My opinions aside, pit bulls are not a working dog, though they can perform perfunctory acts. Popular breeds bred for attacking and guarding are the Rottweiler, Doberman Pinscher, and the German Shepard. Huskies and Malamutes are bred for weight pulling. Though many dogs can perform tasks not meant for the breed, and sometimes exceedingly well, it does not mean that all dogs of that breed are adept at the same skills. As a breeder of Pit Bulls and American Bulldogs for many years, I can honestly say that the owner and the breeder are the biggest contributers to the success of any dog. If one's dog shows skill and interest for certain tasks, than they will more than likely excel. On the other end, just as in humans, if a dog is forced to perform in a manner that they do not like (basic obedience exempt), than they will not do very well, and may lash out. Just be a responsible, and compassionate owner, and the dog will be all right.

Answer by pitty_advocate
Submitted on 6/3/2004
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First and foremost...to all the people who have suffered some loss due to a pit bull attack I am sorry you had to go through that. As much as you would all like to blame the breed, that is an unfair thing to do as the dog is a reflection of the owner. The majority of pitbull owners whose dogs have attacked are the types who treat their dogs disrespectfully and want them to be vicious and attack. For the rest of us who love and adore our pits, we get the backlash of all this "bad publicity". The pitbull IS an aggressive dog by nature...but it is not people aggressive, it is dog aggressive. With proper socialization we can curb this instinct and there are many happy pitbulls out there that are sweeter than anything. Please keep in mind that if a chihuahua was treated the same as some pitbulls are, it would be attacking people left, right and centre as well. As for wanting to train your dog to attack...there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, provided you go about it properly. Seek advise and enroll in a Schutzhund class. This class ensures your dog is 100% reliable in its obedience and teaches it to PROTECT. Yes, a dog will protect you if it senses something wrong...but I am secure in the fact that I can rely on my dog to warn off certain people that I feel are a threat by giving a command to make her just bark aggressively. The attack command is only used if it is the last resort. To all you people who are freaking out about this person wanting to train their dog...do you keep a gun in your house? I would prefer to have my dog than a gun...it's much more reliable. By going through such intense training with your dog you form a bond and you will know your dogs personality and how to handle it.

Answer by consider this
Submitted on 6/7/2004
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Consider this. John Doe and his wife get a cute little puppy. They love the puppy and play with it and have lots of fun. John Doe gets bored with his puppy because it's not a puppy any more and hereafter puppy is banished to the backyard on a chain to live out the rest of his life in solitude. Conditions may vary but some don't have shade, some don't have steady food, but all of them don't have any companionship. Now, as the years go by, John Doe's poor dog has had enough and finally squeezes his head out of the chain and mauls a child for tormenting it for weeks. Lets blame the dog right? no.... Plus consider this. A man of Mexican decent robs a convenience store and murders the person behind the counter. Does that make you want to sentence the man in question or are we now going to say that all Mexicans from now on should be put in jail? Dogs are all different regardless of race or breed and some are bad but the VAST majority are good. They are not robots or machines and they will all have different personalities and things that make them unique. Plus dogs are companion animals and in the wild they are pack animals and they need friendship and guidance from other members of the pack....a.k.a. YOU!

Answer by Pitt Bull advocate
Submitted on 6/7/2004
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One of the things that was included in the Pitt breed, historically, was the love of men. This was strengthened intentionally by breeding. Speaking from experience your run of the mill Pitt would NOT attack a person unless he was severely abused which, may I add, can happen to any dog. This is also why Pitts do not make good estate guardians because they are too "waggy." They were bred for bull baiting and fighting not protection. They do, however make pretty darn good hunting dogs :) Let me add that dog fighting is cruel and wrong and I do not fight my dogs. As a final note let me add one more thing. This does not preclude Pitts from being protection dogs but by instinct its not in their nature on the whole. They do not have "ojeriza" (did I spell that right?) or a natural distrust of strangers in layman's terms. But I'm sure with proper training a Pitt has the possibility of being a good protector. Mine put on a pretty good show for someone knocking on the front door....

Answer by I love my APBT
Submitted on 6/17/2004
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To all PitBull Victims: My heart goes out to all people who have ever been bitten by a dog. Especially when it is a strong dog such as the Pit Bull. I must agree with some of the other writers that say however bad the situation, you can't be prejudice to all breeds. I know that African American People are not the "bulk" of our criminals, yet, that is all I seem to see on the tv. I would never remove myself from a class of people because of "tragedies" that have occurred among that race. Just like kids, owners (and parents) must take some responsibility for their behaviors. Understandably we cannot accept all blame. However, if I correct behavior at a very young age, I have a much better chance of not having problems in the future. My advice to anyone who is apprehensive about owning or being around someone who has an APBT, is to DO RESEARCH! I don't mean pick up the National Inquirer, I mean, call Veterinarians, call dog trainers, call reputable companies. Not places like the police depts. in Cincinnati where the breed is banned, ofcourse they are going to have a bias view. Call multiple places. When my husband and I first decided to get a dog, he wanted a pit, but like some of you, I had nothing positive to say about the breed. Nevertheless, I did do my research, and I've fallen head over heels for both of our dogs. One of each sex. They are great pets. My neighbors fell in love with our dogs so much, they also got two pups. It has been almost three years and now they have a small boy who tugs at their tails and pulls on their ears. Believe it or not, studies show that pits have a much higher pain tolerance, so if you are going to "step" on a paw, you have a better chance of not getting bit if it's a pit's paw!

Answer by Iggy
Submitted on 6/24/2004
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"I think Pit Bull owners are deluding themselves in thinking that if the dog is treated kindly, it will act in kind. My Maltese was recently attacked by a Pit Bull. The dog obviously wasn't trained to be mean because it didn't attempt to attack me as I rescued my dog. However, the dog got out frequently and it attacked my dog while I was walking him in the neighborhood. He attacked away from his own area so what was he guarding??? The owner's admitted it had already killed their pet birds. Lucky for them it was their birds instead of their small children. It could have just as easily decided they were fair game. Fortunately, my dog survived. " You are very ignorant. Any pit bull lover will tell you that the typical pit bull can NOT be trusted with another animal. Dog-aggression does NOT equal human-aggression. A pit at my local animal shelter does not like other dogs (females, anyway), but she adores humans. I would never adopt her because I have three dogs and six cats--it wouldn't be safe or smart. But she is perfectly safe around humans.

Answer by lmao
Submitted on 6/24/2004
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IGGY-im sorry to hear about your dog,but you do have some misconceptions about the pitbull.an animal aggressive pitbull is usually never human aggressive,that is most likely why you were not harmed. unfortunately most pitbull owners are insecure people who want to feel better by owning a tuff dog.they not only tolerate human agression but foster it in their dogs for extra security.the pitbull is actaully one of most loyal breeds and is like a ball of clay in your hands,it will be whatever you want it to be. This makes them great dogs for everyone good and bad. In the right hands they are police k-9s,search and rescue k-9s,therapy dogs,in the past they were military k-9s,and last but not least,great family companions without incident.

Answer by Iggy
Submitted on 6/25/2004
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lmao, I'm not talking about my dog. I was quoting someone further up the page (hence the quotations). I would never have such a useless little rat dog as a maltese. Look: "Answer by Shaz Submitted on 2/16/2004 Rating: Rate this answer: I think Pit Bull owners are deluding themselves in thinking that if the dog is treated kindly, it will act in kind. My Maltese was recently attacked by a Pit Bull. The dog obviously wasn't trained to be mean because it didn't attempt to attack me as I rescued my dog. However, the dog got out frequently and it attacked my dog while I was walking him in the neighborhood. He attacked away from his own area so what was he guarding??? The owner's admitted it had already killed their pet birds. Lucky for them it was their birds instead of their small children. It could have just as easily decided they were fair game. Fortunately, my dog survived."

Answer by lmao
Submitted on 6/27/2004
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just for the record,when i said most pitbull owners are insecure and foster human aggression in there dogs,i wasn't referring to dogs trained in protective work,i was talking about all these punk ass thugs who don't know how to take care of themselves let alone a dog of this nature.i get so mad when i see some of my own stupid ass friends think its great they have a dog that will do whatever.i come from a not so great background, and i have seen hundreds of pitbulls.i'm sorry to say that only a few were in good homes.but whats amazing is,despite those bad conditions,almost all those dogs had potential to be great animals.I feel responsible to educate them,but of coarse they are the kind of people that already "know everything".its really pathetic that responsible pitbull owners not only have to deal with laws meant to deter criminals,but also have to deal with cops thinking were the criminals,and the actual criminals are still running around giving our great breed a bad reputation...sorry about that, i just felt like venting a little.thanks for listening.if anyone disagrees, i would love to hear your thoughts,and i will stay respectful as long as it goes both ways.

Answer by kcisme15
Submitted on 6/30/2004
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I have a Red Nose Pit, and he is the sweetest dog ever. Along with him I also have a Rot. and a boxer. The three of them are the best of buds. They can't stand to be away from each other. I feel that yes, sometimes you might come across a bad pit, but that goes along with anything,being it animals or humans. It is all about how you raise them. But to train a family dog to attack on command,well, your only asking for it. What is the need? Your dog does not need to be trained to attack on command to protect you or your family. If you become close with the dog it will protect anyways. I went walking with my pit and a strange man tried to come up to me. Tyson my dog, stood in between me and the man, backing me up with his body, never did he attack the man, but Tyson defiantly let him know to leave me alone. That is something that he was not trained on in obedience class, it was just instinct to protect his owner.

Answer by beau
Submitted on 7/5/2004
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Ya know, I see and hear both sides of this story everywhere I go. "pit bulls are the greatest dogs ever", "pitt bulls are the most dangerous animals and should be banned". Yeah, yeah, yeah... yada yada... But I DO find it most interesting how the intelligence level of the person talking is usually directly related to their opinion on the subject of pit bulls. As is their accent. Also, you can usually tell why they got the dog if there are other dogs that fit into the same controversial category mentioned when they speak. Example. "yeah buddy, I got me a reeeel sweet pitt bull. wheweee, he's 150 lbs and all muscle! He's even bigger than my "rockwaller" (yes, I MEANT to spell it that way). I'm agonna get me one of them there mastiffs next month! Them thangs are friggin huge! I feel sorry for anyone who tries to mess with me or ma family. I got a six month old who always plays with the dogs. She pulls on their ears and does everthang in the world to em. They wuddent hert her doh." This is usually the same guy who's saying on the news a few years later. "I don't know what happind! That dog has always been so gud with kids. My daughter used to pull his ears and everthing! Them kids must've provok't im. Meanwhile, there's a five year old kid sitting in an emergency room somewhere who's gonna have a face that looks like a side of meat loaf for the rest of their life. But ol' Earl still loves his pit bulls buddy! Them shore are sum tough dawgs..... I say get it together you pinheaded hick and put the macho crap aside for a few. Absolutely NO-ONE is impressed by how "tough" your dog is. Least of all, someone who's being attacked by him. Get yourself a dog that CAN'T kill someone, and you don't have to worry about it. True, you will no longer be able to say things like "I've got a PITT BULL!" or "My ROCKWEILLER IS BAD ASS!", but these things are typically just things people say because they are insecure about themselves in the first place. They talk big about their dogs to make themselves feel better. Like the guy towards the top of this post (who, I might add, has contributed the longest ALL CAPS run-on sentence I've ever seen in my life). It's the people who say "pitt bulldog" in a normal voice when they are talking about their dogs that REALLY know what they are doing. Basically, anyone who talks about their dog like he/she is "badass", is the wrong kind of person to own one. They should be buying a penis enlarger instead.....

Answer by Beau
Submitted on 7/6/2004
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Iggy, not at all. I've been around several of them in my life and can certainly see why someone would want one. They are indeed great dogs. I put them on the same level that I put retrievers. They are loyal, typically well-behaved, and for the most part, easy dogs to own. So I can definitely see how an intelligent person would want one. What I'm saying is, it's usually the stupid person who talks about how "badass" his dog is! I mean come on man, get real. If you really want to impress me, talk about something other than your dog. There's a dog in just about every yard on my block, so I'm not impressed in the least by what kind you have or how "badass" he/she is. That's just silly. It's like beauty just said. "thugs" talk that way about their dogs. People who grew up physically, but are still in grade school upstairs and think that talking tough about themselves (or their "big dawg") makes them somehow more impressive. Usually, the same guy who's in a dive talking about his "badass pit" (he wouldn't own the thing if it wasn't called a "PIT BULL!") has to throw in a bit about how he went to prison for attempting to kill someone. You can usually spot these idiots from a mile away. Just look for the guy with a lot of tatoos, maybe missing a few teeth, wearing a harley shirt, a nascar hat, or anything else that goes well with jeans that haven't been washed in the last few days. Oh, here's my favorite! The guy that loves to tell you that his dog is half WOLF! I typically lose complete control in this situation and laugh til I hurt. Yeah buddy, and my dodge is half Ferrari! Oh yeah, you didn't know that? Yeah, Ferrari built the motor on about 8 of these. I got one of em... I know this person who lives not far from here (but far enough to make me happy) that has a malamute/chow mix. This is VERY easy to see. Any vet would tell you right off that bat, "that's a mutt". But no, this guy is determined that his dog is half wolf. Says he paid almost a thousand dollars for the dog. This guy has a truck sitting in his yard that he hasn't been able to get running for the last three years, but he was able to pay out a thousand bucks for a mutt dog that is supposedly half wolf. I wanted to ask him if the dog came with a big, gigantic flashing neon light that says "I'M A MORON HILLBILLY, LOOK AT ME!", cause if he paid that much for that mutt, then it should have. Too bad for the dog though, he's gotta live with a name like "Havok" for the rest of his life. So no, everyone who likes pit bulls are not stupid. But if you DO own one, and you're like the person I'm describing, well, you might want to think twice the next time you're out somewhere talking about just how "cool" your dog is. While it might impress some adolescent boys somewhere, most intelligent people are thinking "great, you have a dog, you should be sooo proud....."

Answer by Emmys mom
Submitted on 8/9/2004
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i am the proud mother of a blond haired brown eyed mutilated 5 year old little girl thanks to that of your neighborhood friendly pit bull. Emma spent her 5th birthday on life support in a coma. This animal grabbed my 30 pound daughter from the inside of the mouth leaving lacerations down her throat and puncturing her saliva gland in her cheek, breaking her jaw. the mandible bone (jaw Hinge) was completely severed from the skull on both sides and broke the bone across her chin leaving multiple fractures as well. he almost took out both of her eyes and severed her earlobe from her head running his teeth down her jugular vein. she lost 66%of her blood and had over 230 stitches in her tiny little face she was unrecognizable even after they pieced her back together. he scalped her and broke 2 vertebrae in her neck. they lost her three times on the way to the hospital. her face was so badly broken. and her nose,cheeks nasal and sinus cavities were so shattered they could not get her on life support. rigimortus had already set in her hands and feet, it remained there for three days. if you would like to see Emma's birthday pictures feel free to visit her web site at www.81x.com/emmadog/1 this is the site that her 11 year old aunt built for her. she witnessed the attack along with her 8 year old brother. this isn't just a one or two time incident these dogs are attacking 67% this is the 2nd most child hood injury requiring emergency room treatment and these dogs are the #1 attackers in the u.s. they only make up 1% of the dog population. the sad thing is is that it is usually someone Else's dog that mutilates our babies but unfortunately not always. as one mad mom i will fight til the bitter end to ban these dogs it is not worth taking a chance when it comes to the lives of our babies and you can sleep better knowing that i will be doing what i can to protect OUR kids. Emmy and i both agree that if it comes to the life of a dog or the life of our children there should be no question as to who should be givin the chance. life as known by my 5 year old daughter will never be the same. i wonder if your child got brutally mauled and scared for life or god forbid murdered by one (or more) of these animals if you would still be loyal to the breed. TCA Emmy's mom

Answer by reaper
Submitted on 8/17/2004
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well i have a female rednose and she 5 years old and she is the best dog i have ever owned i have a two year old daughter and a ten month old son and i have a two yearold jackrussell and the one dog that i dont trust is my jackrussell i would never leave him alone with my kids or a starnger but my pittbull she is the sweetest dog and she wont hurt a flea,we have had people come in our house that she dont know or walk up to her on the street and pet her and she is all about them petting her but my jackrussell and he has been raised the same way is a total different storry he will bite someone that he doesnt know and he will bite the hand that feeds him ,so its not just pitts that can be bad it can be any dog but just a few bad eggs doesnt mean bann them all if that was the case then we should ban certain people to.

Answer by #1 pitt lover
Submitted on 8/26/2004
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Training your pitt bull 2 attack on command is NOT dumb. A few months ago, my dog was barking & barking late @ nite,and my Dad went out to see what was wrong. And someone had broken into our car. They took everything that was valuable in the car. They could have got into our house because the garage door opener was in the car, I thank God they didn't. So now were gonna train our three pitt bulls to be nice or mean. It depends on the person who comes in our back yard if THEY wanna be nice to the dogs or mean. People think that Pitt bulls are not good dogs! But they have to spend time w/ some pitt bulls to know how they act. My smallest dog Pinky is the most sweetest dog but if she don't know you, and walk into my back yard she'll make you RUN right back out.

Answer by sheri
Submitted on 9/5/2004
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Well i think its really stupid to band pitt bulls ive had 2 of them and its all in how you raise them... its all b/c of people that decide to treat them wrong that causes them to have such publicity. Yes, you can train a pit bull to do many things, but you can also train them not to do things. There are many dog bites and many accidental ones... just like my boyfriends pittbull we raised him right weve had him since he was a puppy and he's sweet as he can be he'll fetch a tennis ball and run around with toys all day in his mouth he plays with a 4 year old every day of his life and has never bit him. Well my b/f had to go to school and took the dog with him b/c it was only for 3 weeks and the hotel exepted animals.. well, some family members on his side of the family came to the hotel to visit him and she came with her 4 year old daughter and while my boyfriend was in the bathroom somehow the little girl got a scrape on her for head and the woman says it was from the dog... so now the dog is held in animal control he's been in there for 13 days and was supposed to get on in 10 days but they wanted a reason to hold him so they said well you dont have proof of vaccination and so we got that and the lawyer is supposed to be taking it to the police department. The child's mother is now trying to sue her own family members,put criminal charges on my boyfriend, and have the dog put down. So we have a lawyer and were trying to fight it in court but it is completely ridiculous.... b/c a dog that i have watched grow up and i love as my own, i love him as if he were a human... maybe put down over an accident... and im really scared that it may happen b/c people that like to raise pittbulls to fight are giving the pittbull breed a bad reputation and there not that bad unless you raise them to be. I had one since i was 13 and she passed away last year and she was also a sweet dog she was full breed just like the one we have now and he was raised with her and never did they fight. Dixie the female would run and hide if you caught her doing something she wasnt supposed to do b/c she knew she was wrong...and never once did she ever try to hurt anyone she was a great dog! and i miss her very much also. So no i do not think that pitt bulls will attack anyone unless they were trained to do so. dont get me wrong they are very protective and thats good if your at home by yourself or something. but i have never known of a pitt bull attacking anyone without reason unless there owners have trained them to do so.

Answer by pitt owner
Submitted on 9/10/2004
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i own a pitt bull and he is the best dog i'veever had. the breed came to be for the simple pleasure of humans. i saw a special on animal planet that these dogs were actually bred to fight. they had no other purpose other than to fight other dogs and win their owners money. however, any dog came be aggressive depending on how it is raised. it's not just pitt bulls that are aggressive. for example: there have been many cases where chows turn on their owners. i know this from experience with two chows that i'vehad in my lifetime. so it's not always the breed of dog, it's how the owner chooses to train the dog. if you're responsible enough to get your dog professional training, then i think you should.

Answer by italyz pit bull pride
Submitted on 9/27/2004
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i have read manny of the articles related to the dog atacks but thats like current day raceism lets say that just beacuse the italians have a mob that all italians are mob related and gangsters and that all the blacks that weare baggy clothing are going to pull out a gun and shoot you for your valubles that all hispanics are going to steal your car and chop it up thats not how it works not to ofend any one race in particulay but not all pitbulls are mean and going to attack for any reason. the breed has nothing to do with the agression but only the trainer or the race has to do with illagle activites just as some people werent rased with the same morals or work ethics but thats the same thing with the dog a dog only knows wut you teach it. the animal obays or atacks for its one well beeing but that does not mean mean beacuse one dog got out of control that all of them will .i personaly have an 8yr old brother and the dogs do nothing to hurt him at all besides knock him down to lick him i cant justify any think but that is simply how i feel

Answer by REDD DOGG
Submitted on 11/3/2004
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I have a pitt bull he is a very nice dog. Im only 19 I found him walking down the road, He had a tag so I called the number to find the owner. I dident want to give the dog up to the pound/shelter. I knew they would just put him to sleep. 2 months went by and one day i got a call from the owner, his name was Tony he was a really great guy. I had dun everything with redd. I took him to Tony 2 days later I never cared for a animal like i do redd. when I went to hand the lesh over to him my eyes filled with ters I new he could tell but I gave him what i had and said by to redd. I asked if I could come by and see him, U know I love him. I know it wasent my dog and it might sound weird but I did an still do. It was hard to get through the next few days put on the 3rd day tony called he told me he wanted me to have redd. I couldent belive it I dident know how he could give up this wounderful dog. I got REDD back and tony soon stoped comming to see redd. ill cut to the point tony was dieing and he knew it. one day i got a call and was told. Tony worked at a hospital so he knew when he gave redd to me. Ill never forget him I love A bitt he is know my service dog and goes every where with me. I take him to the (old) falks home once a month. He is the best thing in my life, he would do anything for me I know now more then ever yesterday I was attacked by a dog in my yard he came out of nowhere and jumped right on me and BIT ON TO MY HAND. befor I knew what was happening redd jumped through my sliding glass door I dident see him but my nabors said it was like a movie. he jumped over the bench in my yard and took the dog down. the other dog dident have me for more then 10 seconds. im fine my hand is bitten but not to bad the dog had no chance to do anything. redd dident kill the dog he just got him off and stood next to me making sure i was ok the other dog know he wasent playing and ran away. every one knows redd, he is a well mannered dog he loves to sit on your lap. he knows to listen and he does know to protect i dont live in a great place but ive always ben incontrol of him. he slows down when walking he dosent even need to be on the leash. he dont chase cats. the hole thing is dont belive all of what u here and get to know an animal befor u judge them. I also think your dog should know to protect u. mine does its not bad to teach your dog to stand up when its the right thing to do. as long as u teach your dog right from wrong u will have no problems. If u cant teach your dog right and give him the attention u need to when u train um then dont. its not bad dogs its bad owners. I am also taking him to SAN JOSE STATE UNIVERSITY soon. If u want to see a picture of redd send me a email at emoryphotography@yahoo.com

Answer by SwEeTLiLEm180
Submitted on 12/8/2004
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"See, in order to make your dog an attack dog you have to be so cruel and inhumane to it that you break there spirt witch makes them lost in there own souls" if that ain't the stupidest comment I've seen yet...I think you're the idiot who thinks you have to be cruel to a dog to make it mean..wtf ever...our dog will be nice or mean on it's own...sure you can train a dog to attack when you want it..but just because a dog is mean doesn't mean it's been mistreated by the owner...both my dogs one's part pit and australian cattle dog..(Scooter) and the other is great dane and black lab (Ozzy) Scooter makes an excellent gaurd dog..he'd never bite nebody..unless they tried to come at me or neone in my family..but he'd bark and 'gaurd' our house whenever someone pulled up in our driveway or was walking down the street..but he wouldn't go out and bite someone intentionally..but Ozzy on the other hand..no matter what..if you're not a part of my family..as in me, my siblings, or parents..that dog will attack you in an instant...he's very mean w/strangers or people outside my family..and not once have I trained either dog to attack nebody..or act the way they do..they're just naturally protective like that...some dogs are sweet..some dogs are mean..and that doesn't necessarily depend on what breed they are..mainly on the personality of the dog itself as an individual..alot of people look at certain breeds of dogs (ie pitbulls) and are like OMG THOSE ARE SOO MEAN! they're not freakin' different then ne other dog..you train them to be mean just like you wouldn't every other dog...or they're gonna be mean naturally just like every other dog..so yeah..I totally disagree w/the statement about a dog is only mean if you mistreat it..that's bs if you ask me..get a brain why dontcha? STUPID PEOPLE I TELL YA !!!

Answer by greyson
Submitted on 12/11/2004
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I think that if you are in an area that you need an attack trained pit then yea its fine but not trained to the point where it will kill anyone for no reason. You don't need to train a pit to attack. If anything it would be to defend. You should train them to know when its owner is being harmed or threatened so it will know and react. You also need to train it so when you say stop it will. I went to this guys house one time and he had a pit bull. This thing was so tight you could play with it and wrestle with it rough. If it was biting to hard all you had to do was say gentle and i t would loosen up or say stop and it would stop. If a pit bull is raised badly then it will be bad. If it is raised good it will be good. There is no such thing as bad dogs. There are only bad owners.

Answer by kelsey
Submitted on 12/27/2004
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i think that you really dont have to train pits to attack i have 2 pits and if you take care of them they will wach over you my dogs get pampered and they are nice to everone they ever like my little step sister she is still a baby!! but there really is no need to train your pit to attack becouse i never tought mine to but one night i was sleeping and i man brock into my house and my pits woke me up and attacked the man so it goes to show you that if you really love your dog that they wont trun on you and they will take care of you!! and all the pits that trun on there owner is them damn hoodlems that fight there pits and that is the only reason people think that they are bad dogs but that is no true they are one of the most loving dogs there is!!!

Answer by pnkflydqhs
Submitted on 1/2/2005
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I am an animal lover, have had dogs, cats, goats, rabbits, ect., all my life. I want to make a statement here for all the irresponsible pet owners out there: I don't blame the pitt that, last nite, got into my garage, where I found her mutilating my female cat, who did die shortly afterward. I blame the owners, this is the 4th cat killed by this murading female pitt, on my property in the past 3-4 months. This dog is obsessed with killing small animals, she climbs the tree's in my front yard chasing my cat's, to the tippy top, she has gotten her entire body completely stuck under my boyfriend's Monte Carlo chasing my cat's, she has shoved her way into my house once while I was opening my front door, & almost killed a cat inside, I have personally witnessed this dog rip apart 2 cats in a frenzy. The owners are shiftless, irresponsible, young hispanics, who think it's very "macho" to have such a wild dog & whenever I try to plead with them to erect proper containment, those pleas fall on deaf/dumb ears. Those are the kind'sof people who give pitts bad reputation's. I own a 128lb. rottweiller, have spent $1000 at Man's Best Friend for obedience training, don't leave her outdoor'sin my fenced backyard unsupervised, because, just in case, she might decide to jump the fence and chase after someone/thing I can immediately summon her back to me on command. Irresponsible pet owners are just like irresponsible parent's, they end up with bad dogs/kid's. That's why, after trying to reason with these people, I HAD to call our mutual landlord, notify him of the 2 pitts that are at his rental house, frequently running loose & killing & advise him that as the property OWNER, he'd be legally responsible for damage/death caused by the irresponsibility of his tenant's. I am hopeful to see either a safe enclosure for their dog's or the removal of the dog's &/or the people.

Answer by mootaki
Submitted on 1/11/2005
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hello there , theres always going to be two types of the pitbull admirer , the ones who wish to make use of the obvious strength and inteligence of the breed by creating guard dogs , amongst many other uses , i.e , cadaver dogs ,search and rescue , weight pulling , agility , and so on , while still seeing them as family companions , and those who claim to love pitbulls but wish to remove the traits and heritage they come from ,there is a large group of people who want to make them fu fu dogs, yes you can own a pit as a family dog and it will be the best you ever owned , you dont have to make use of there many uses , but to always whine and whimper about the people who choose to use them for guard dogs or talk poop because people like them for there majestic looks is a clear reflection of personality that is pacifist to say the least , of course a pitbull will protect his family with or without training , but theres nothing wrong with training them! , the truth of the matter is they make a better choice for guard dog than some others like , rotts , cane corso , these dogs will try to protect you from the paper boy! , pits in my opinion have better capability to distinguish friend from foe , when someone knocks on my door both my pits are in front of it , ready , when my friend with his cane corso gets a knock he has to put the dog away completely , even if he tries to let his dog know its ok , rotts are the same , im sure ill get plenty off guff from stating my opinion , but its gonna be from the same people who whine about everything else anyway, so whoopee! , pits have a wide variety of uses , its ok to make use of them , the same people who dont like what im saying got there info on pits being non human agressive from pit fighters , in old rules before a fight dogs where swaped and washed to rid of any biting deterrant , hence they had to be friendly to people they didnt know , they also had to be able to run off with the dogs in the middle of a fight in case police came , so the dog would have to stop fighting at a moments notice and not be aggressive to the human that grabed him , times have changed and so have the dogs uses , dont take this info to support they shouldnt be human aggressive , if someones breaking in they should be , if you dont like that oh well! just dont fight your pit and your alright with me , trained or not a bad owner is a bad owner!

Answer by Angelina
Submitted on 1/14/2005
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We own seven registered APBTs all of which I trust 100%. I train police dogs and am a vet in Detroit and we get 20 to 30 pits a month who were faught. Although they are not naturally agressive to humans they are hunting dogs and SOME are inclined to after small animals such as cats, not to be agressive but they do love the chase. In answer to Pit Bull Victom above I am sorry for your loss. I have two daughters myself. But I do not agree with banning Pit Bull ownership. Dogs can be made mean but only by abuse can they be truly mean. In answer to "How do you train a Pit Bull to attack?" you don't! I trained my Pitts to gaurd my SUV, not ever attacking but with barking. It has allways been enough seeing seven Pits barking & growling in the car someone is trying to steal. They are social dogs an love your company. The main reason they are portrayed as monsters in the media is because they have potential to do more damage than most other dogs(because of their strength). People use them for fighting because they love being domanant over other dogs. They don't start fights, but they do finish them. In a study by the government Pit Bulls were 27th most often involved in reported attacks against humans. The 1st being Dalmations, the second being Black Labs. The more time you spend with your Pit the more his loyalty will grow and his protection of you. If some one stands over me, even someone she knows, Mia lay over me and growl. I've had all my dogs since they were weaned and I recommend it that way so your pit can grow it's personality with you. PLEASE, adopt Pits. If you are not breeding it is not vital to have a registered Pit. I appreciate registered dogs but if you knew even half the ammount of Pits put to sleep. Most vets hold stray dogs needing care. Check if they have Pits. Ones who were faught are just as good a companion as any other as long as you take the time to understand them. I do not recomend getting a dog who was faught if you have children. You must understand these dogs from the time they are puppies are taught to be agressive. When they reach 4 months people begin bait training. Bait training is where people(I am just now noticing how every time I write about the damage Pits can cause the word PEOPLE is in the sentance) take small animals, mostly "free" kittens, and teach the dogs to kill it. By 7 or 8 months its dog on dog agression. All the while being muscled up on treadmill like things. After 1 year they are ready to be faught. Check out this web site. http://www.apbtconformation.com/ To the far left of the "model of conformation" pit are tabs to click. Right under "Reputable Breeders" is "Pit Bull Movie." This is a Movie other vets and I set up on Pit Bull fighting. All of the pictures of injured pits are from the office. These are just a few of the dogs that come in almost daily. All of the pits in this video that were injured are now adopted out to loving homes and doing well. I visit them often. The video takes a pretty long time to download but is DEFINITELY worth it. So I leave you with this; "If all the beasts were gone, men would die of great loneliness of spirit. For what ever happens to the beast soon happens to man. All things are connected." -Chief Seattle (Duwamish tribe) P.S. NEVER give "free" kittens in Detriot!

Answer by vet nurse
Submitted on 1/16/2005
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to the idiot whos baby got killed, what kind of moron would leave a baby unattended with any kind of animal?? cats have been known to go to sleep on top of a nice warm bub and nearly suffocate them! its not just pits, ive seen the euthanasia of many a maltese and fox terrier cause theyve attacked kids.anyway, it sounds like your pit was just playing with the bub resulting in death, if it wanted to kill the baby it would have done so within 20 seconds. also, how come all you people didnt hear anything while you were snoozing?? didnt the baby cry or scream? did the dog even growl? the pit was just playing, any dog in attack mode growls loudly or even barks at the victim but you didnt hear a thing from that dog. there are no bad dogs just bad owners and bad parents who leave their kids unattended. bad parents should be banned. and another thing, if the baby sitter is the one who owned the dog and you knew that the dog had bitten other kids/animals why the hell did you even allow the dog into your home?? thats like letting a pedaphile into a preschool. stop trying to blame the babysitter or the dog and take some responsibility for your own stupidity.

Answer by girlsluvpitbulls2
Submitted on 1/20/2005
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When i was little i was attacked by our family rotty, after that i was so scared of going near big dogs for years, until i met my boyfriends pit bull, i fell in love with her. My boyfriend then bought me my own male pit bull, and i have looked after him the way all dogs should be looked after and he is now my best friend, he comes with me wherever i ride my horse, he plays with my little cousins (although i would never leave him alone with them just incase something happened just like i wouldn't with any dog no matter how big or small they are). he sleeps inside and lives the high life. Recently my house was broken into and i was threatened with a knife, my pit bull Tyson saved my life without hesitation, he was stabbed 3 times, still he didn't give up, eventually the robber got away and was never tracked down. Tyson has no attack training at all, only ever been loved, and the love i have for my dog is what saved my life. Anyone who wants to ban these dogs is crazy, if your going to ban one breed ban them all! I know i wouldn't want a different dog.

Answer by katie
Submitted on 1/22/2005
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I find it very depressing that when I type in the word Pit bull on the search engine, this is the first site I come to. "How to train a pitt bull to attack?!" I mean, what is that! It is absolutely preposterous to sit there and act like this breed is evil...born evil, that it is in their blood. If you have any disagreement with my statement, then you need to visit this site, or agreement with this statement..for this is a site that EVERYONE MUST SEE, AND SHOULD BE PASSED ALONG: http://www.deviantart.com/view/11454716/ and watch that video with sound, if you are so inhmane that you do not feel the slightest bit of remorse for the pit bull, then you are what should be banned in this world. But how ridiculous would that be? I know it, so thinking that a whole breed should be banned, because there are some pitts out there who are vicious IS JUST AS RIDICULOUS! IF THEY ARE VICIOUS, THEY ARE TRAINED THAT WAY.....not born that way. I work in an animal shelter, my mother has a mutt, who does not like men very much, she has never been mistreated by any, and has never bit anyone, but she is very scared around them, barks, gets very very upset.... she doesnt like them, and we have to be careful not to let her around men....does that mean she should die for it? No, and to add to that, I myself own a rottweiler, who loves everyone and everything, cats, dogs, black people, white people, asians, elderly, children.....and they have a bad rep as well. I have worked with more nasty pugs, pommeranians and chiuahuahs than anything else! I am truly and deeply sorry to the man who lost his granddaughter to a pit bull mauling, it is a horrible thing. Very sad, but it could have been any dog.....and anyone will tell you that large dogs are recommended to not be in a household of small children. In fact, our adoption agency, the humane league of lancaster PA, will specifically state NO SMALL CHILDREN when dealing with large breeds, or overly hyperactive dogs, and even some small dogs, and we screen families..so therefore, the fact that the small child was even kept in the care of a person who had a pit bull, by the knowledge of the parent, well that my friend is negligence on both parties. The parents should have made sure their children were not in the presence of a "pit bull" since you think they are so evil and all. And since the breed in your mind should be banned.....why would you allow your child to be in that type of environment,....this is just an example of how a person/animal etc's environment can affect who or what they are! Visit an animal shelter, visit with a pit bull, be open to them, and you will see, that while yes, there are bad ones, and there are evil ones, there are also millions of sweethearts, loveable, loyal animals. Just as there are humans. And statistically, pit bulls have less bite reportings than the labrador retriever....bet you didn't know that. Do your research, do not be biased. I too was once afraid of the pit bull, and the rottweiler for that matter, now I own a rott, and I KNOW my next dog will be a pit bull. Absolutely, because they like the greyhound, they need saving. From the abuse they are enduring from people... And my final statement is that the dogs who bite the MOST, are mutts, but you cannot put a mutt in a category now can u? Instead, pick on the dog with the most powerful jaws, even if they do not have the largets number of bites.....because they are powerful animals and can do damage, they are considered oh so horrible. These animals are just in need of loving homes, and people who will give them the chance to show that affection. My best friend saved a pit bull, which she found, who was starved almost to death, and her ears were clipped BY THE OWNER, with regular old scissors.....this dog is the sweetest dog in the world now, with the love of her new family. Now how do u explain that?!

Answer by Nathalie Velasquez
Submitted on 1/25/2005
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I have a 1 year old Pittbull and she`s one of the nicest dogs I`ve ever seen. I�ve had poddles and terriers but no one like her. She likes playing with others dogs and never have hurt or mauled them or a person. But, I admit that Pittbulls or any other dog "should not be left alone with a baby or a children". My little cousins love to play with her but I�d never let them alone because, in the end, it�s only a dog, they have instincs, and the kids sometimes don�t treat them well (in several cases the punch them) and they could respond any hurt bitting the person. Most of the stories we`ve heard about babies mauled have been caused by irresponsible parents or "baby sitters" who have left their "lovely" children alone. So, my advice is obvious, don�t leave your dog "baby sitting" your children. They�re not trained for that.

Answer by MY GUN IS MAX...FULL BLOOD TEXAS REDNOSE PITT
Submitted on 1/30/2005
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I SEE THIS QUESTION BOTH WAYS, YES IT WOULD BE NICE TO LIVE IN A PERFECT WORLD, BUT SORRY PUPILS THIS IS FAR FROM. I DONT SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH TRAINING YOUR CHILD HOW TO SURVIVE, PROTECT, OR EVEN KILL. THE ONLY THING IS THAT YOU TRAIN YOUR CHILD THE "RIGHT WAY" OR GOD HELP US ALL.THE PITT BULL IS CAPABLE OF OUT MATCHING ANY AND I SAY ANY OTHER BREED ON EARTH...IT WILL NOT STOP,IT WILL NOT SLOW DOWN, IT JUST KEEPS CRUSHING AND SHREDDING ITS ENEMY UNTIL CERTAIN DEATH, THAT IS WHAT THE PITT BULL WAS BREED FOR AND CAN NEVER BE BREED COMPLETELY FREE OF THIS GENETIC TRAIT. THE PITT,STAFFY,ROTTY,DOBBIE ECT ALL HAVE THE SAME TRAITS AND ARE ALL CAPABLE OF DOING THE SAME THING. IT LIES ON THE OWNER AND HER/HIS CERTAIN WAYS OF TRAINING. THE PITT IS BY=== FAR ===THE MOST LOYAL,TRUST WORTHY,INTELLIGENT DOG I HAVE EVER OWNED, AND YES I HAVE HAD ONE OF EACH. I LOVE THE PITT BREED AS I DO ALL DOGS BUT BANNING THEM WILL ONLY CREATE UNDERGROUND HELL WORSE. ANY HOW IF YOUR GOING TO TRAIN IT TO KILL, WHICH IS WHAT IT WILL DO EASILY AND NOT LOSE ANY SLEEP OVER THEN PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE TAKE GREAT GREAT CARE IN THE MACHINE YOU ARE ABOUT TO CREATE AND THINK OF ALL THE BAD THINGS THAT COULD AND WILL HAPPEN TOO,CAUSE IF YOUR CREATION KILLS MINE OR ANYONES CHILDREN THEN I THINK YOU SHOULD BE KILLED ALSO........THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING THE TEXAS REDNOSE PITTBULL TERRIERS, MAY GOD BE WITH THEM. SIGNED GATOR KENNELS OF EAST VANCOUVER BRITISH COLUMBIA CANADA (778) 322 7838

Answer by rebecca
Submitted on 3/10/2005
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Wouldn't it be great if states required all dog owners or at least owners of agressive breeds to go through dog obedience school rather than just banning a loving and loyal breed? This would help eliminate tragic accidents caused by good dogs with improper training and also distinguish them from those dogs that are abused and trained to fight. Our 2yr old pitt was recently attacked by our neighbor's 3 pitt-mixes which were apparently in "pack mode" and broke through their fence that bordered our yard and the poor thing didn't have a clue what to do. She was just laying there crying and didn't even try to fight back. Luckily we were close by and pulled them off of her before they could do more than give her a few scratches (we've now put up a sturdy fence). Their dogs are not mean (they didn't try to attack us), but their owners are irresponsible since they have too many dogs in a small space and they obviously haven't trained them properly. After that our girl got a bit more nippy when playing and we had to gently train her out of it. Also, guard training is not necessarily training dogs to be mean. Sometimes a dog is too trusting of strangers. Our pitt is actually so nice that when strangers enter the house (even when we are not there) she wags her tail and licks them. My husband used to have a pitt that he left on a long chain in the backyard, and someone stole him, chain and all, without a fuss from him! So we would like to train our dog, maybe not to bite, but to alert us when a stranger is around.

Answer by A PIT OWNER
Submitted on 3/13/2005
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For all those people saying that all pits are bad...you are wrong...I have a 2 year red nose pit that I had gotten from the pound...she was rescued from horrible streets where her previous owner probably tried to fight her...she is the sweetest dog ive ever met. I also have a black lab...he is more able to bite someone than she would...he is also more aggressive than she...so i believe that all pits are not bad and anyone who thinks so just shouldn't have one because their mixed feelings towards an animal would probably set the animal off to acctually bite someone. they are living things too, i dont think anyone who has another kind of dog would appreciate their animals being banned or put down-they would deffinetly fight it. so all you people with your noses stuck up so high-shut the hell up you wouldnt like it done to your pet.

Answer by Working dog trainer (USAF)
Submitted on 3/21/2005
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I'm a Dog trainer and I've seen many dog bits and to be honest it really depends on the dog not the type. one of the worst dog bites was given be a poodle yes a little mean poodle hard to believe huh but true. Pits are hard headed by nature but you teach a dog bad habits. They don't just know them. As far as training a pit to attach you really need to consider all the aspects of that like your dogs temperament will he/she release on command will the dog stop the pursuit on command? is you dog a happy dog. if you can remember when you were introduced to the dog (puppy)did he try to smell you or lick your hand or nibble? there is allot of time spent doing my job with one dog so I'm required to know these things but if you think your going to get a complete how to off the net you are wrong because every dog is different. to the person who lose someone to a dog attack. Sorry to hear of the loss in you like my heart goes out to you I'm way to familiar with dog bites and it sickens me to think that happened to a child.

Answer by Patricia
Submitted on 3/25/2005
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I have seen all kinds of pits with all kinds of attitudes. If you learn about these dogs then you have to accept that they do not do well in social places unless they were raised around lots of people and other dogs. They are naturally protective and really only need obedience training to keep them under control when a bad situation comes into play. These dogs are some of the smartest and most affectionate creatures I have ever seen. My 2 year old pit is my best friend. I know he would protect me even though I have made no effort to teach him. He knows he is apart of our family and would do what we would if something bad would happen. Most people won't come in our house because of the way he looks. I call that avoiding a problem before it takes place. If your are educated about pits and people you should never find yourself in a situation where you would need attack training. Keep them as a family member and if someone should come to do you harm your pit will know what to do on his/hers own. It's when to stop that they need help with as they live by the law of the jungle.

Answer by Eric G
Submitted on 5/6/2005
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i have to agree with beau on some parts but to an extent there is a certain pride with owning a dog be it a pitt or any other dog i live in the ghetto and have had my pitts stolen and the thugs around me use them for fighting but everyone they stole i got back its these people who are raised by the streets instead of there mom and dad that think pitts are just for fighting just recently i had one stolen and some kids were telling me how the people who stole her were shoving hot sauce and pepper down her throat trying to make her mean i guess cause they see there parents eating hot sauce all the time and usually are mean as hell think it is the hot sauce it is a shame how people can show so little respect for creatures so beautiful and I'm still looking for her so guess i haven't gotten all of them back but I'm working on finding her the sad part is i had the house she was in and got the cops out there and he said whats the big deal its just a dog and my heart dropped cause i couldn't go in there and get her and he wouldn't even though had witnesses saying he had her and making her fight full grown pitts not to mention she was just 12 weeks old at the time a month later I'm still looking for her if i don't find her i would wish her to be dead than abused by the people who got her...me and my wife just recently rescued a dog he was starving almost dead had been forced to fight had holes all in his ears well we still have him and he is backup to 40lbs instead of the 20 we found him at and is the most loyal dog i have seen not a mean bone in his body now my son he is 2 loves him to death and hugs and kisses him and we are always outside with him and he gets along great with my other dogs....but i do think that as a pittbull owner i do have a certain pride about my dogs and they are a part of my family and treated as such

Answer by uk
Submitted on 5/23/2005
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Any dog will bite if it is agitated by a human. Obviously some dogs are more likely to bite but this can be controlled by training them properly (not to attack - how violent are you people!?!) Anybody should be allowed to own any dog, but should also be educated how to socialise it, train it and make it happy. We live in such a violent society anyway that I cannot believe people would want to train their dog to attack. What is wrong with having a friendly pet that is no threat to humans and other dogs alike? Why would even cross your mind to have a dog that attacks on command. Unless you are in the police you have no right. As for shooting a dog with a 9mm thats just crazy - you can't even readily own guns in the UK (thank God).

Answer by jennie_c_d
Submitted on 5/30/2005
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Ok, first and foremost, it's PIT BULL, not PITT BULL. Human aggression and animal aggression are not the same thing. My little JRT will kill a rabbit, bird, bug, fish, rat, or mouse in a half second, but she'd never harm her momma. Pits are a breed that has been bred for fighting. Gameness is a part of the breed. They are supposed to be dog aggressive! People keep saying "raise it like a human" or "treat it like a human". This is a HUGE mistake in raising any dog. Every dog should know that it is a DOG not a HUMAN and Humans are above dogs. They should never be allowed to correct a human (adult or child). If they are treated as humans, they believe they are humans. This is WRONG. They must be trained and raised properly. This board is very sad.