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Question by Thomas
Submitted on 11/23/2003
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They call me a flame point siamese cat. But my new owner, who just adopted me, is not sure what that means.  I am a light cream/white colored cat with points that are a fire red/brown color and I have very blue eyes. Can someone please explain what I am to my new owner??  Your help would be greatly appreciated.  Thomas

Answer by PW
Submitted on 12/9/2003
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I have one of these cats I found as a stray.
I thought he was Siamese, but I've been told by a breeder that he's a mix.
My vet listed him as a "flame point domestic shorthair."
The colors you describe sound like a flame-point, though without a pedigree, you can't know if your cat is fully Siamese or a mix. Hope that helps!


Answer by Kim
Submitted on 1/7/2004
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I have two of these.  I was also told they were flame point siamese.  One has the narrow nose and blue eyes with the red coloring.  the other looks like a domestic house cat (shorter body) but with the same coloring.  I am just as curious..


Answer by Frankie
Submitted on 1/10/2004
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I am at the Kauai (Hawaii) Humane Society and just been adopted by a nice couple whose sons gave me to them for Christmas.  Please tell my adopted parents what sort of behavior and manners they should expect from me and, most importantly, what I really like to eat and do with my claws!!


Answer by Gattuch
Submitted on 1/27/2004
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I have one of these cats too. He is almost 3 years old. His name is PJ but his nickname is Lovebug because he is the sweetest cat ever. He loves to snuggle and cuddle. He always has to be touching me or laying on my lap. The only annoying thing about him is because he is a siamese, he whines a lot. He is always meowing about something...because he can see the bottom of his food bowl, because he is in the other room and is to lazy to come to me or just because he feels like it. He always talks to me, I just have to say his name and he will start meowing like crazy. But like I said, he is a lovebug and tries to make up for his annoying meowing when he can. He likes to play, he loves catnip and his cat post. He likes to help me make my bed, he jumps on top of the sheets and pushes the air pockets out as I try to put them on. He is a great cat, a lot of fun and I would recommend this type of cat to people that not necessarily spend all their time at home but are home frequently. They like to see people and be with people.


Answer by MeezerMama
Submitted on 2/3/2004
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There are many different color points associated with the Siamese Breed.  Seal is the most traditional with a ivory body that darkens with age and the dark brown almost black points.  There are also Blue Points, Chocolate Points, Lilac Points, and Flame Points.  These colors are generally accepted by the purebred cat associations.  There are others you might hear of that came about from mixed breeds.

Flames have anything from a pinky light cream to dark red point color with pink nose and paw leather and a white body.

If your cat is a mix, you may see light tabby stripes on the legs, face or tail.

For more info on the Siamese Breed, check this website:  http://www.cfainc.org/breeds/profiles/siamese.html

To see more Siamese Cats, check out Texas Siamese Rescue at http://tx.siameserescue.org/


Answer by sam
Submitted on 2/11/2004
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snowball is a flame point and your cat sounds just like him they have red on there nose ears tail and feet and there bodys cream so it sound like you have a flame point to me good luck there grat cats for kid to snowball is my 3 year olds cat and hes never heart here no matter what she has dune to him. enjoy your cat


Answer by Buddy's dad
Submitted on 2/15/2004
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I rescued Buddy at a shelter and had never heard of a flame point...he is my 3rd cat, in 20 years, and the best personality of all.  He's affectionate, but not needy, funny, bad, and beautiful.  When he looks at me with those big blue ( crossed!) eyes, I melt.  I got him a denim blue baseball cap which he looks so cute in that it makes me weak..but he pulls it off in 30 seconds.  Likes to scratch rugs and furniture a little too much..but loves to be in the same room as me..I definitely give two thumbs up for this breed.


Answer by Ron J
Submitted on 3/1/2004
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   I have a female flame point (Betty) she is cream colored with light orange -red markings with just a hint of stripe in her tail. I bred her twice with a charcoal lynx point. 6 babies the first time, five the second   ...in both litters she had female lynx points and male flame points. The breeder I bought her from said male flame points are rare.


Answer by Petra
Submitted on 3/16/2004
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I have a flame point I took in as a stray who the vet calls "Domestic Short Hair." A local breeder also told me he was a mix, not true Siamese. Nevertheless he is a beauty with a ringed tail and light brushing of orange on his face and back in addition to his orange ears. It surprises me that there is not more information out there about this color combination in domestic short haired cats!


Answer by Pawpa
Submitted on 3/23/2004
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I have one of these I adopted from a shelter, and she is fantastic!  Adopted at about five years old, took about four months to bond with me, now we are inseparable.  Currently I am on a business trip, and am told by my roommate that she occasionally wakes up and walks around the house howling for me!  How sad!!  She is full of personality and dignity but not recommended unless you like a cat to talk a lot!


Answer by Angel's mom
Submitted on 3/25/2004
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We just found out the cat we rescued from behind a business is a Flame Point mix according to our vet. Very sweet disposition. Very gentle with our kids. We have 3 other cats , she gets along well with all of them including our dogs. Whoever dumped her don't know what they are missing.


Answer by CBHW
Submitted on 3/26/2004
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Yep, you  have a true siamese!  Flames are blue eyed, lovable  kitties who may be "apple headed" or long nosed depending upon their ancestry!
Enjoy their unique personalities....mine are lovers AND hunters....mice, ducklings, birds, and even a bat!


Answer by Toby's Mom
Submitted on 3/31/2004
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I just adopted a flame-point from the animal shelter. I also have what may or may not be a snowshoe (seal point/American bi-color mix). Toby, my new boy, is so loving and gentle I really thought he was an older cat. My vet informed me that he's probably only about a year old, possibly younger! Whether or not yours is "pure", I'm sure you'll be purrrrfectly happy, as we are!


Answer by Dom
Submitted on 4/7/2004
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I have never heard of so many people having Flame point siamese cats!  I have one as well, his name is Skiddy, we also have a Tabi and siamese mix, his name is whiskers, but we're not to sure what kind of siamese he is.  They both talk a lot, if they want something you know about it.  Skiddy is definately a cuddler, and its all the time, if it's comfy and warm he's there.  He's 10 years old this year, and i call him my little grandpa.  But he's still playful as every...i've realized over the years that he gets in moods that all he wants to do is play, and then he can sleep for hours on end.
It sounds like you have a flame point alright!!
I hope you enjoy your cat!


Answer by Debbie
Submitted on 4/13/2004
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Just came from the vet who told me I had a long haired (yes long), flame-point siamese with blue (crossed) eyes. I'd never heard of this so I'm glad to find this site. They also said the spots on his nose were common to the breed. Snowball is whiney, loving to kids and dogs and a prolific hunter.


Answer by Diana
Submitted on 4/14/2004
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Wow! I never knew there would be so many people asking the same questions! I just adopted a 1/2 flamepoint Siamese from a shelter and he is beautiful! Although he doesn't have the exotic long triangle head of a Siamese, his markings are amazing, his eyes are deep blue and his face is just literally enchanting ... which is why he is named Finwe after Tolkien'sElf King.
Here is a link to his pic in the shelter:
go look. He is amazing!


Answer by wayne
Submitted on 4/17/2004
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I have 4 red/flame-point Siamese cats. Two are of a general type, that is with a cream-colored body with pink to orange ears, and tail.  One I adopted last year is a long-furred cat who just recently is beginning to show his red colors and his coat is a silvery white.  Also, I have just adopted another kitten from our local shelter also with silvery white fur. All of them have blue eyes, and are not prone to talk much.  However, they are all great pets, and I would recommend a red/flame point Siamese to any cat person.


Answer by Buddy's dad
Submitted on 4/28/2004
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I woke up the other morning and found a huge dead rat in the living room..and my brave boy was as unconcerned about as possible..I shudder at the thought of this horrible thing running around free until my amazing guy with his crossed eyes and gentle disposition could take care of this terrrible pest!  No cat better!


Answer by J.B.
Submitted on 4/28/2004
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I have had this flame point Siamese for 4 years now and there has never been a more loyal cat.I found him at the Animal Shelter close to my home and fell in love with him.He has black spots around his mouth and I asked his vet about them. She said that they were "freckles" from lying in the sun. Which he does as much as possible. He talks a lot and is funny and dear.The only thing is, that anytime I turn on the hair dryer, he comes running in from whereever he is and bites me on the calf of my leg. Not hard.He doesn't break the skin or anything, but I have learned to close the door if I'm using the hair dryer. He's quite a hunter too. The vet says he's around 8 years old now and I hope he's around for many many years.


Answer by meghan
Submitted on 5/14/2004
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I just got a flame point siamese kitten; she's about four months old and just a sweetheart.Her ears are a light amber color,her tail is amber and white ringed,a little orange face mask and the cutest light blue crossed eyes. She was long haired when we got her but I'm teasing my mom by saying that she'll be short haired.HEHEHE


Answer by Jean
Submitted on 5/15/2004
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I have two beautiful flamepoint siamese cats, and I can tell you from experience, they are the best tempered and the most loving.  My Merlot is a "hugger cat" and the most loveable cat I have ever known. I adopted him from the humane society, and he is wonderful with everyone and any cat.  I also have Bojey (Bojangles)who I also adopted from the humane society.  He is a little more reserved than Merlot, but just as loving once he knows you.  Both are lap cats and not much for talking.  They are by far the best cat I have ever had in my 45 years!!!   You will never find a more sweet cat!!  Congrats!!!


Answer by B&B's Slave
Submitted on 6/3/2004
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I also adopted 2 long-haired flame point Siamese cats from a shelter - brothers, one I named "Buddy" cause he's always right by my side and very talkative.  "Buster" is bigger than Buddy, but both are the most gentle cats I have ever had.  Since they're only a year old, they're still very playful and enjoy toe-biting at 2 am.  Buddy loves the small catnip mice toys and I'm constantly having to dig them out from under the furniture where he's batted them. I also have a friend who has 3 of them, all males and all short-haired with skinny tails. I had Siamese cats before - very high-strung and prone to erowing in the middle of the night.  These guys are so different!  


Answer by LV
Submitted on 6/9/2004
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Hi - I have had my Flame point kitty for over 11 years and I found him at the Humane Society, so I figure he is about 13 years old.  He is my mellow biggie boy, at 14 lbs.  He has outlived 2 torti mix girlfriends and is still going strong.  He is a talker, & purrer when he is snuggled up in bed and you rub his tummy.  He has a wonderful disposition and I wish he could have sired at least 1 litter so I could have a few more like him, but he came fixed.  If anyone in Arizona has a flame point they need to adopt out, let me know!    


Answer by Steph
Submitted on 6/11/2004
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I just left Animal Control in Mesa, AZ and take "parental custody" of a 2 1/2 month old flamepoint (light cream with light velvety brown color points) tomorrow.  We started looking for a kitten back in January, and this is the first one who really tugged at my heartstrings.  All the other kittens I had found dug the claws in as soon as you picked them up, but Fang (as I think I will name her) just snuggled in my arms and went to sleep.  Can't wait to see how she grows up.


Answer by PW
Submitted on 6/18/2004
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My flame point boy, Rio, is just a year old now. He has gotten to be about 13 pounds, and quite handsome! He LOVES tuna treats and his toys, and will meow at the "toy drawer" when he wants to play (which is often). He and my 3 year old Bengal boy often have wrestling matches, then Rio will want to curl up in my lap for a snooze. His funny quirk is that he "rearranges" things by moving them around the house- shoes, boxes, his food dishes and anything else he can carry or shove. LOL! He is an all-around excellent companion cat. The one thing we are working on is that he is VERY shy around strangers.


Answer by utmargarita
Submitted on 6/18/2004
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I have two wonderful flamepoints--a male (Boudreaux) who we got from the shelter when he was 8 weeks old, and a female (Bebe) we got from a rescue group when she was 1 1/2 years old. People are amazed at how much they look alike now, although Boudie was almost totally white when we got him and Bebe came to us with honey-colored fur on most of her body and distinct red points on her face, ears, paws, and tail. I read that all pointed cats are born without markings because the genetic color pattern of Siamese is heat-activated! As they get older their faces and extremities, which are cooler, take on the point color (seal, chocolate, lilac, flame, etc.)


Answer by LV
Submitted on 6/20/2004
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That is interesting, I just figured they were born that way.  Don't these cats have a wonderful way about them?  My Seger is a bit shy around others, but it takes him an hour or so and then he'll be checking everyone out.  He is so mellow, likes to find a sunny spot, but then sometimes in the evening he will rip from one end of the house to the other.  I'm still looking for a friend for him.  


Answer by utmargarita
Submitted on 6/21/2004
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Respose to LV'spost: "I'm still looking for a friend for him."

Have you tried www.petfinder.com? It's a clearing house for animal shelters and rescue groups. You can specify that you are looking for a cat and even indicate what age and sex you would prefer. Be sure to click the box for  photo previews and search regionally unless you are willing to travel a long way from home. We found Bebe on this website. I had to drive 100 miles to get her, but I could tell from her picture and the description of her that she was the one for us. She had been surrendered to a shelter by a previous owner. Because she was very anxious and cowered and shook from fright a lady with a local rescue group decided to foster her--she didn't think anyone would adopt her from the shelter. It took about two months for Bebe to come around after we adopted her, but now she and Boudie are best buddies and although she is very shy with strangers she is very sweet and loving with us--she still doesn't like to be picked up, but she will follow us around and sometimes flop over on her back for a tummy scratch!


Answer by utmargarita
Submitted on 6/22/2004
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Just out of curiosity I checked Petfinder.com for flame points that are available for adoption in Arizona now (I noticed you wrote that you live in Arizona in an earlier post). There is a rescue group called AJ's Best Friends in the Apache Junction/Phoenix area. They have two flame point males that are beautiful: Kovu and Yukio. You can see photos of them at http://www.ajbf.org/petlist.html

Good luck finding a flame-point kitty!


Answer by poohta
Submitted on 6/28/2004
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i lost my best friend 2 years ago next month and i am still so heartbroken i wonder if my pain will ever stop..shes a 4yr old siamese mix with a bandit mask & a bent-crooked tail.if you know anyone in.the.phx.area with a cat.like that.please.write me @poohta@webtv.nettheres.a.generous  reward


Answer by Ellen
Submitted on 7/9/2004
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We adopted Simon, a big 14 lb. flame point Siamese mix from the Arizona Humane Society six years ago when he was the "Pet of the Week", he was around 5 years old then. He is such a wonderful animal! He is a great comfort when I'm not feeling good and cuddles next to my leg to keep it warm when it hurts - recovering from a difficult fracture. He, too, is a great hunter and regularly brings us presents like birds and lizards. He is very active for his age and patrols the yard to keep any intruders away - helps him keep his trim shape. We've had Siamese cats for 30 years and while he is a mix according to the vet, he is a really great pet and very different from the other cats we've had. I highly recommend this breed.


Answer by snowieanangel
Submitted on 7/9/2004
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Congradulations on your new friend! I just lost my snowball after 16 years together. He was mostly white, with creamy paws, round race with orange striped mask, and orange ringed tail (candy cane tail, per the kids)
He was the one of the most loving, patient cats I had ever known.  My girls found him and his brother? a grey tabby w/gold eyes, shaped like a siamese with a mouth to boot.(Buster, still going strong, on meds for thyroid problem)  Snow had renal failure. They were tiny kittens, starving, and sick.
We soon discovered Snow was blind-he had a little trouble learning to be housebroken.
He was such a nosy kitty we had to put baby locks on some of the cabinets. He also liked to scratch on the carpet under my bedroom door if it was shut (and I was on the other side!) I cant bear to fix the damage now, we find it very precious.
He had a stocky body and short nose, the most beautiful blue eyes, pink nose and paw pads (loved to have his feet rubbed)
He also had a thick plush coat, two coats (siamese coat) per the vet-but obviously a mix.  He was beautiful inside and out, and all of us miss him terribly.  He was the stable mate and buddy of all our other cats.
They are all still upset, after almost two weeks.
It is so wonderful to read about all the rescued cats finding loving homes.
I have lived in this neighborhood for almost 20 years, and I have taken in 7 cats!
Folks just think cats can shift for themselves, and they cant.  Mixed breeds are the best, and I know all our cats are grateful for their home now. Enjoy! .  


Answer by luminous_ladie
Submitted on 7/14/2004
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I really enjoyed reading your stories,
I am a breeder and in my first litter we had a flame point we called him blizzard, he had us all totally in love with him,We did end up selling him and it broke our hearts to see him go,But we just had a new litter and another blizzard has been produced there is no way we are letting this little guy go,There is just something special about the flame points:)


Answer by Kimmi
Submitted on 7/20/2004
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Ive got a flame point Siamese also. I found him as a stray about 6 months ago. he is very lovable. He is a little bit whiny, but i could not ask for a better cat. My vet told me what he was. I had no idea.


Answer by Jafafa Hots
Submitted on 8/7/2004
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Rescued a feral flame point kitten the other day, about 6 weeks old. Pretty wild, but the local rescue people have him/her now and they feel it's going to be able to be rehabilitated. I was worried about that because its so beautiful.


Answer by skirch
Submitted on 8/10/2004
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Kittykind in Manhatten has a flame-point mix right now, in fact this week I am fostering her.  She is a big, sweet, mellow cat, who comes running if you call her, and who loves tummy rubs.  She has a round face, clear blue eyes, and fluffy coat.  She is sort of cream-colored with red ears and red tabby markings on her forehead and tail.  She'll sometimes talk (softly) to you, but nothing like full siameses do.  A really sweet girl.  If you are looking for a sweet flame-point mix, go to the Union square Petco some weekend and meet her. (Her name was 'Princess Cream Puff,'  but I've renamed her 'Machka.')


Answer by Clyde's Mama
Submitted on 8/12/2004
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This posting is great - I love hearing stories of other flame points.  My Clyde is also blue/cross-eyed (like Buddy?)  He is my first cat and he's a hunter too (he was a stray who decided he was living with me)  Now he's indoors all the time and wrestles with his little brother (he's all black - a nice contrast)  Clyde hardly talks though, only a pitiful meow when he really wants to go outside.  Other than that he's more of a purrer, needer, drooler.  And that sweetest thing alive.
Since you all seem like total animal lovers - there is a website call petster.com where you can register your pet and put up pics and make friends with other pets.  It's pretty cute. :)
You can see my boys at www.clydeandsalem.itgo.com


Answer by Angela
Submitted on 8/21/2004
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This is great to see so many people with the same kind of cat! I just "inherited" my 1/2 Domestic Shorthair 1/2 Flame Point Siamese cat named Angel. But I started calling her Puss Puss one day and it stuck! She is the sweetest...always wants attention and love. She doesn't meow at all....I've heard her meow 4 times since I've had her (over a week). But she's beautiful and I already love her to death! I love her bright blue eyes the most! Makes me smile!


Answer by Kathy
Submitted on 8/27/2004
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Sandman-Sinatra, came to my back door about four years ago.  I couldn't let him in.  I had 8 cats at the time.  He kept begging to come in.  I knew he was a male and that he was probably neutered.  ( He had manners.)  Anyway, after six months, I let him in.  Took him to the vet's.  He wasn't upset about being in a carrier.  He was tested for everything and was ok.  He is very sweet and loving with me.  He has a love/hate relationship with Zack, my other boy cat.  He is very vocal with certain subjects.  Cat dish, water dish and wanting out, or in.  Then, if you are just petting him, or he is comfortable sleeping by you and you rub him, he just purrs and makes small meows  The other week, he was outside.  (The only inside/outside cat. I have six.)  There was a terrible rain storm and he didn't come home that night.  The week-end went by and he still wasn't home.  I made up fliers and put them in the local vet's office, apartment complexes, etc.  On a Friday, after a week,I had a call from a lady that had seen the flier at one of the vet's offices.  I had another call from the vet that takes in stray's.  I had to describe Sandman, tell them what he does, etc.  They were very careful.  Purrs and meows very loving.  He has the blue eyes, crossed, white body and orange ears and tail.  I went to the Clinic and it was Sandman.  They called him Sinatra, because of his blue eyes.  Needless to say, I had to re-name him, Sandman-Sinatra and he is no longer going outside.  I know that he misses it, but I don't want anything to happen to him.  He has been home for a week and sleeping close to me every night.  The talking can be a little irritating, but, he is a keeper!


Answer by Danelle
Submitted on 8/31/2004
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Hello i am looking for a male or female flamepoint i live in Indiana and i have a female, i have had her for a little over 2 months now and she is the best cat i have ever had she is so loveable and very cute if you are close to Indiana and have a flamepoint to sell please e-mail me at Danelle_wolf@yahoo.com


Answer by SIammin SIAMESE
Submitted on 9/6/2004
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Answer by mattyj
Submitted on 9/12/2004
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I just adopted a 4 month old male flame point from a local shelter.  It was so wondeful to read everyone's descriptions of their kitties.  I've only had Oscar for a day now but I already love him.  He is so cute and cuddly, always willing to be picked up and petted.  He is very vocal but not too demanding.  I think he is the best kitty ever.    


Answer by Trish
Submitted on 10/5/2004
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I have a flame point domestic short hair that I found at an adoption center.  She is a mix because she doesn't have that long siamese face but she is so cute.  She has red ears, feet and tail and a little bit across her face as well.  Her body and tail have light red stripes and the rest of her is white with beautiful turquoise eyes and a matching collar!  They are the sweetest cats and very loving.  Allie wants to be around me all of the time and loves to talk which is where the siamese comes out in her!  Enjoy your own flame point cat!


Answer by Bluecanoe
Submitted on 10/27/2004
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We just lost our wonderful little boy Monday night, he was a flame point Siamese, and a pure bred.  His name was Canoe and died of liver cancer at the age of 13 years, far too soon as far as we are concerned.  We'd had Canoe since he was 6 weeks old, he was given to us by a friend who had a chocolate point male and a Tori point female after they mated before he could get them fixed.  Canoe had three chocolate point sisters and a brother who was another flame identical to himself.
        I've loved all my cats, but this one was really special.  He was such a people cat that we often forgot that he wasn't a little person and talked to him as if he could understand everything we said, and seriously he often reacted as if he had.  He ran this house, rounded up people when he knew it was their bedtime, nudged you awake if you didn't hear your alarm and would greet you at the door when you came home.  He loved riding around on your shoulder and would clap his paws together in a begging motion to be picked up.  
         In his 13 years, he never hissed, scratched or bit anyone.  He was the gentlest little guy I've ever known and the best cuddler in the world.  A cat that loved his head kissed to the point of asking for kisses regularly. I can't say anything negative about him, he was so loved by anyone who came to our home.  I miss him terribly and can't imagine my life now without him.


Answer by Mo
Submitted on 11/5/2004
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I brought home a a stray tortie kitten, and before I got the chance to get her spayed, she had a litter with two flame points (one male and one female) both identical: pure white with blue eyes, red ears, tail, and noses..she also had 3 red tabbies in the same litter. As far as I know, there are no siamese toms wandering around here.  Is it possible that my tortie is part siamese?


Answer by just another cat lover
Submitted on 11/23/2004
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It seems like to me you have a type of cat called a colorpoint short hair. They are 1st cousins to the siamese and very alike in temperment. They come in a great many colors(on points) and though they are siamese, becaues when the breed was founded it was also founded with tabby cats to produce the stripes (on points) they were not considered a siamese to many organizations, so they gave the cat thier own breed.


Answer by erin
Submitted on 11/28/2004
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I have a flame point siamese (orion).  they are also called red points.  i bought him at a pet store about a year ago and was told that they can be rare.  he is creamy white with orange points.  He is very large cat, mostly because i got him neutered. extremely friendly and ornery.  best animal i have ever bought.


Answer by Abby
Submitted on 12/13/2004
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After 8 years of companionship from my big fat (15 lbs) Rascalbear, I have just this week found out that he is a flamepoint!  Not pure, as he has some light tabbying on his sides, but close enough.  I just always thought he was a yellow tabby with a little Siamese thrown in somewhere in the mix, but with his big blue crossed eyes and the toasted-marshmallow coloring on his face and tail, my vet said nope - flamepoint for sure. He also has a few freckles on his nose, from lying in the sun.
I would recommend this breed to anyone who loves a cat that demands their love. Rascalbear is very much an "attention-whore", and will squawk, poke at you, or even hurl himself to the ground with a grunt and show his belly to get your attention. He loves nothing more in the world than to have his shoulders and butt patted and scratched.
Sadly, his buddy Q-Bert (a 14 year old grey/white domestic shorthair) passed away a few weeks ago. Rascalbear has never been alone, and was a crying miserable mess (like me!) for several days.  I am hoping to get a kitten in the near future to keep him company, and I would love so much for it to be another flamepoint.  Hopefully I will get lucky and find one!  :)


Answer by kcsanctuary
Submitted on 12/22/2004
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We have two male flamepoints up for adoption at our rescue in Illinois. Sounds like a very intelligent group here regarding the breed. Contact us if you know anyone who may be interested. 1-815-293-3903
Kreidler's Critter Sanctuary
We don't have photos on Petfinder yet but will soon.


Answer by Lindsay
Submitted on 1/15/2005
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I have 3 cats two are just domestic short-haired tabby'sand my third whose only 2 1/2 months old is a flame point siamese and we just found out today! The vet told us and she told us how absolutely beautiful he is. His name is Hemi and he is so sweet he's a little shy around visitors but if they are a cat lover he can immediately tell and will love on you on the sofa we found him at a boat landing in our town where he was abandoned and we rescued him and our little tabby Halo who was very sick at the time. He was so passive to our 6 month kitty Holiday that when he first saw her he walked around with his tail crammed between his legs and his belly so low it was almost dragging the ground. He is very lovable and snuggly he isn't very talkative but he has the beautiful markings of a light amber on his mask paws hind legs tail and ears. He has crystal blue eyes that are so striking that he gets away with murder because all he has to do is look at you and gets whatever. He adores the other 2 females and lays and licks their necks he loves sleeping in the bed and hiding behind things when my son comes home from the school bus. He loves his cat tree and his mice he drags them around from his mouth and if he passes any of the other cats even though they don't want anything to do with his mouse he will walk by them and growl, then he goes and buries them under the bed every couple days we pull them back out and he does it all over again sweetest cat ever once you earn their trust!!!! Congrats on your new addition!


Answer by ali
Submitted on 1/17/2005
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I have a siamese flame point mix I adopted about 8 months ago... and boy is he FAT!  He has the same access to food as my other 3 cats but seems to enjoy eating the most.  I also have a purebread traditional siamese blue tip, a short hair tabby, and a manx mix (no tail).


Answer by Pagan
Submitted on 2/14/2005
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I have a beautiful flame point lady named Marlie. She is a mix, born to a grey tabby that was the progeny of one of my rescued cats. She must be a throwback at least 3 generations, because the mother of the grey tabby was a very pale yellow tabby. She is very easy going, but demands a clean litter pan at all times! She also has some animosity towards my two black cats, and the black cat I fostered for two months! Maybe she just doesn't like dark colored cats! Who knows!


Answer by jenny
Submitted on 3/9/2005
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I have a cat named dipstick until recently we had found out he was a flame point.We had realized this on his last visit to the vet.Anyway we had no clue his parents which were both pets,but we had found them as strays we had no clue what breeds they were.We no longer have them.But my mother in law has his sister and she looks like a siamese she has the markings and coloring.It is so weird how too cats that are different can have kittens that have the same breed in them but look different.Anyway any information on this type of breed anyone can pass along would greatly help.Send info. to Jenniboy7@aol.com.


Answer by chantal
Submitted on 4/9/2005
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My Snowball is the greatest!  He came to us as a tiny all white kitten and as he grew his beautiful flame point markings began to appear.  He is loving, extrememly affectionate, smart, agile, devoted and the best cat I have ever owned.  He has more canine traits that feline traits.  I will definitely always have a flame point in my cat family from now on.  I also have two other kitties - but they are very different from Snowball.  I don't think you can go wrong with a flame point!


Answer by Kerri
Submitted on 5/27/2005
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I adopted a Siamese Mix that was named Flame point for more information on that go here http://www.kittentanz.com/siamese.htm


Answer by sharon
Submitted on 6/14/2005
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I fostered a litter that was a combo of white and black or gray and tabbies, and then this oddball-he looks like a beige tabby with tan to brown strips, strong on legs and face, almost invisible mid body.  Wedgy head, long nose, squinty blue eyes, big ears, long gangly legs, tail and trunk. Almost no voice (we act like we don't hear him when he does speak) And a noodle body, bonelessly relaxed.  Is he a flame point mix?  Or a freak?


Answer by kittygirl
Submitted on 6/25/2005
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my mother and i volunteer for a cat rescue, called N.A.R.F, and today, we were given a flame point, he is a pedigree, something happened to the owner, and has to move in with a relative  ( we all know what happened, but it is a little personal). He is such a wonderful cat, he is very mellow, and purrs so much,i cant believe    he is 10 years old! from what i have heard, the flame points are very loving, and we are looking forward to having him in out home until he hopefully gets adopted!


Answer by Serenity
Submitted on 7/16/2005
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I don't think these are flame point Siamese.  I don't see such a thing in the breed description.  However, check these cats out!  They're called Ragdolls and they look exactly like MY cat anyway, far more than any Siamese I have ever seen.

The woman who "began" this breed in the 1970's in California did use Siamese as a basis for their coloring, like what areas of their body had color, and then interbred with others to get the different colors Ragdolls now come in.

I think this is what our cats probably are, some sort of Ragdoll mix.  I know mine looks exactly like them, and acts like them too, and he's definitely growing like one!


Answer by Jereca Schroder
Submitted on 8/4/2005
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i have two flame point siamese and we also found them as strays they were full of worms and flea's we werent sure they were going to make it but if you would like to see pictures email me at jerecajean@hotmail.com


Answer by Surreal
Submitted on 8/18/2005
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we have a flame point siamese.  Loki by actions :D  when we first got him he was so mischivious.  hes now about 13-14 yrs old.  he weighs about 20lbs, such a big boy.  but hes so loveable.  yes he meows a lot, but all siamese do.  i dread the day he passes on.  i will have to search to find another.  until i found this i didnt know so many other people had them b/c ive never seen them or heard of other ppl having them.


Answer by poppies
Submitted on 8/23/2005
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I have just adopted a cat.
He has a cream coloured body that seems a little short for a Siamese nor does he have any colouring on his feet, he is red-orange from his blue eyes to his mouth and light orange ears with a red-orange tail. Any cat that I've had with this colour has always deepened as they got older.
He has a longish face and is 13 weeks old.
I'm not sure or his heritage, but I think he has Siamese in him.
I've been told he is a Red Flame Point, and he is a male.
When I take pictures of him, his eyes glow amber.
I fell in love with him the minute I saw him.
He's very good natured and loves to play with my orange tabby who is 11 months. He is cuddly and sleeps with me.
His brother had the chocolate points.
I wish I could send a picture for you to see.
Any ideas on my kitten?


Answer by Candycoded
Submitted on 9/8/2005
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We recently adopted a fire point kitten (about 6 mo old) We have named him Lucifer.  We already had a gray short hair who is the biggest lover in the world!!  Little Lucifer is the most troublesome, bipolar cat.  Sometimes a lover, most of the time a terror.  Always though, he is fun.  He is all white with red tail and ears, he has very big crossed, blue eyes.


Answer by Archie
Submitted on 9/10/2005
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if anyone in quartz hill, los angeles, lancaster, palmdale or anywhere else in southern california has found a male kitty, neutered, orange tail, white body, pink nose. his face is kind of like a mask, he has white and orange in his face. his body is mostly white except for an orange strike going down his back. his name is archie, missing since june.  i think he mightive jumped in someones cat and maybe that person dropped him off : (.  his name is archie, if you have seen him or if you thnik u have him please message me on aol instant messenger.  my aim name is coolguycloud07, if you can't download aim please email me at lucian_escalon@yahoo.com.  thanks


Answer by Holly
Submitted on 9/11/2005
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I also rescued a kitten from the shelter his name is sherbert, we call him bert he also sound like the same breed. I did get a chance to see his mother she was a cream colored domestic cat, but bert was all white ,blue eyes, and cream ringed tail. The vet also said am mix siamese and domestic. What a lover he is and loves water!!! Very smart and always into something. I agree who ever gave him up lost a special friend.


Answer by m dog
Submitted on 9/18/2005
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I ran into a cat exactly like you yesterday his name was charley and his owner said he was a flame point siamese wich is siamese cat mixed with a different type a cat im not sure what its called but they have short hair i have three cats two mixed breeds one not.


Answer by Carolina
Submitted on 9/23/2005
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I am fascinated by the fact that so many of these cats were adopted at shelters, lost, ect.  That is exactly the case in my situation.  I had to put my calico cat down after 16 years together, then my Malamute was suddenly diagnosed with cancer a month later,  and had to be put down immediately.  I have been terribly heartbroken.  On a whim, I decided to go to the pound to rescue a cat.  I walked into the cat area where they were all stacked in small kennels.  Suddenly.... this white paw whipped out and grabbed me.  It cracked me up.  There was this funny looking white/peach colored Siamese cat looking at me.  That was it.  As a child, I had a seal-point Siamese cat for many years, and I knew how interesting they are. So far, he has vanished for 10 days (after hanging around at my house for 2 weeks), but I found him through an add in the paper.  He was only a street away, and having a ball.  I think I have him convinced to stay.  He is the funniest cat.  Full of energy and rarely sleeps.  When he does, it has to be right around your face or neck.  I do have a problem though.  I have another cat of 15 years who is extremely unhappy about this new addition.  Any advice would be appreciated.  Anyway,  I just love this guy.  Oh, any I named him Ming.


Answer by Casey
Submitted on 10/2/2005
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I want to let you all know, flame points, like all light colored cats, get skin cancer easier than darker cats. So its best to keep them indoors.


Answer by Laura
Submitted on 10/26/2005
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Frankie came to us as a little lost soul. He was just 3 months when he appeared on our doorstop crying continuously. His effectionate mannor grabbed our hearts immediately as we brought him in our home. He is about 13 pounds now, white body, orange ears with a blush on his face, paws and tail. His eyes are piercing blue, thus the name Frankie...He has been a joy to us for two years now. One concern though is that his eyes have become crossed over the last week and are that way most of the time. When I look at Siamese websites, many of the cats pictured have crossed eyes. Is this normal and is my Frankie seeing double?


Answer by BB's Dad
Submitted on 12/3/2005
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BB(Big Baby) middle name 'Ajax'
Eyes: crystal blue
13 lbs.
Coat: beige with very thick winter coat then sheds in spring.
showed up at my door about 31/2 yrs ago and is about my closest friend . He listens to all my problems and sometimes seems to offer suggestions, "if you feed me, scratch me, let me out, let me in, and let me sleep on the bed with you, I'll fix everything".  After adopting me, he was sun bathing in the window sill one afternoon and as I sat down to the computer he just decided to make about a 3and a half foot leap right dead onto my head! I've never seen this strange behavior before, but then again, he IS a Siamese.  B.B. is a fixed male and had his front nails removed which  I highly disapprove of. He seems to fend for himself, though.B.B. is a very handsome lad and likes to be reminded of this fact. He is about 13 lbs with crystal blue eyes and not one but two kinks in his tail. B.B. does not have the  typical Siamese meow but rather several "voices". If he really wants my attention from the other room he almost "barks". I suspect he went through kitten-hood with dogs or something.B.B. is beige with very red tufts at all the points. He is fixed, but is still quite territorial and not afraid of a 'scrap'. Perhaps he is good at bluffing. He follows me for half a block in the morning when I go for my walk and is waiting for me when I get back. He usually 'springs' out from under a bush and attacks my white cane or my shoe laces. He is quite a hoot. Yes, I spoil him with some tuna on Fridays. Believe it or not he knows when Friday afternoon is! He teases the next door neighbors dogs by swaggering over to the fence and peering through the pickets  while they bark unceasingly. B.B. just switches his double kinked tail which looks more like a dog wagging a short tail. Quite humerous. Sometimes he will walk up to me as I sit outside and turns around with his back to me and if I don't immediately pet him he proceeds to 'poke '  me on the leg with his stubby tail  to remind me that he is near.
B.B. is quite loyal and doesn't usually take to strangers readily with the exception of attractive women.(good kitty!).He seems to possess very powerful hind legs as he can easily leap up a 6.5 ft fence. It was revealed to me that after his initial leap, he seems to almost "walk" up the rest of the way and then just disappears over the back fence to the  countryside where there are some feral cats.He can't resist chasing a dangling string, rope, thread, robe cord or untied shoe -lace!He is always ready for a good wrestling session and is not bashful about using his teeth either!  
   This cat has some really interesting behaviors, too numerous to explain here, but he is my best 'bud', and will always be .


Answer by poppies
Submitted on 1/2/2006
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I have a Red Flame Point. I got him from animal welfare but a friend who raised Exotics said he was a Tonkinese.
That's a cross between a Siamese and a Burmese.
He looks small but is quite heavy and has Aqua coloured eyes which is a positive for Tonkinese. He also has an "Apple" shaped face and sometimes their pupils appear red. My Toninese has the red pupil.
You can read more about them here.


Answer by wendy
Submitted on 1/2/2006
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I have adopted a female flame point siamese cross from our local animal shelter.Her name is cleopatra (cleo for short).She is a beautiful cream colour with orange ears and orange markings on her face. Her tail is a lighter orange with rings on it. Her eyes are a light blue.She is six months old. She truly is a joy.I hope everyone out there with one of these cats is as thrilled as we are.


Answer by Sandy
Submitted on 1/19/2006
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I just drove nine hours to buy a Flame Point Siamese that is one year old and registered.
His ears are orange but not his feet or face/nose as Siamese are. And his tail has orange with white rings.
I told the woman I was disappointed in him,did not want to buy him and because I knew he had to get rid of him, I told her I would find a good home for him through a group I foster for.  Conveniently, she did not have his registration paper there to give to me.  Very suspicious.  She tells me the cat is her son's.  Her son tells me it is his mom's and they have to get rid of it because she's too old to care for him...Anyway, when I got him home, I swear to you all that he looks EXACTLY like my Snow Bengal cat.


Answer by Riki from Ky
Submitted on 1/20/2006
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I am sure that your cat is a flame point.  I found my chewy at a flea market, were we have been going to find siamese cats or fruit bats as my family like to call them due to the baby siamese looking like little fruit bats with their dark points and incredibly adorable big ears about 6mths ago.  He is the sweetest thing in the world and sooo playful and loves to play with my three children.  He is a cream pink color and definitely has the flame point marks on the tail,ears,mask,and legs.  He is about 8mths old now and i would not give him up for anything.  He loves my other cat to, maybe alittle too much because she is now an expected mother i thought he was to young i guess age doesn't matter.  Enjoy your baby he is the real thing


Answer by rockygfish
Submitted on 2/2/2006
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we have "Flammebeau" french for beautiful fire...we've always had siamese mixes but this is the best all round for looks and personality


Answer by siam butt
Submitted on 2/9/2006
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Why don't you just have sex with me? If the babies cum out with herpes zits, we will all know its yours...you perverted beastiality moron fag...


Answer by Brandi
Submitted on 2/27/2006
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I have a flame point siamese/himalayan she has the orange running down her back orange ears orange tail baby blue eyes but she is long haired


Answer by Tattoobabe7
Submitted on 3/4/2006
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Answer by Cynthia
Submitted on 3/12/2006
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Our Flame Point, Mars, has the sweetest disposition.  When we rescued a kitten off the street, Mars became a parent, caretaker all on his own.  He picked up the weeks old kitten by the scruff and start taking off with it to then fully bathe the poor kitten.  The kitten is a cat, now and the cat gets some serious baths from Mars on occation.  Mars is talkative, loves to "misbehave" (to get attention)and loves to interact with people.  He has brought nothing but joy to our household and the next time we have room for another cat we will look for a flame point siamese.


Answer by HALI
Submitted on 4/21/2006
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Am surprised to see so many flame-point Siamese owners. Enjoyed reading their stories. We thought ours was the only one. His name is Missouri, alias "The Lone Rearranger". He's very bright, inquisitive and is a "gentleman" cat. Loves to greet visitors at the door, inspects each tool when one is building anything and enjoys chasing laser lights with abandon. Gets much exercise that way, as well as in going for walks on a leash. Very patient.


Answer by Daisey & Tiggers mom
Submitted on 5/13/2006
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We just adopted a flame point female and a gray tabby we think is her brother from the Tacoma Pierce County Humane Society.  She is apricot with blue eyes, light rings on her tail.  They are both very lovable.  We are so excited to have them!


Answer by Pam
Submitted on 5/28/2006
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I first got my flame point in Las Vegas. She is a pretty thing. She had a snowshoe mom and siamese dad so it was strange for her to come out the color she did. Since then she has had litters by a seal point siamese and everytime 1 comes out flame point and always male. So we kept one of the males and he is so pretty. Now it is time to get them both fixed. They are great kids. Glad to hear so many others have the same kinds of cat


Answer by wolflord
Submitted on 6/2/2006
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I too got my friend at the humane society here in Indy. I found him on the internet, ran out and rescued him. He's a 3 yr old flame pt/medium hair tipping the scales at 16 pounds.  He purrs so LOUD that I renamed him 'Buzz '. Talks a lot, but not such a piercing yowl like pure siamese.  A real lover and likes to play cat-fishing and sit on his perch in the window. Buzzy is a most wonderful friend. Good luck with him.


Answer by Lily
Submitted on 7/9/2006
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Hey! I am a flame-point Siamese that a my owner found at the park. I was a stray but had once had a home and adapted quickly to my new people. I have a pink nose flecked with brown specks and pink "pads" on my feet. My eyes are the clear blue of the morning sky and my cream and white coat has faint tabby stripes dotted with brown. I have fire colored tufted ears that are soft and the same color as my paws and forehead, that has the traditional "M" of a tabby. Kathy (my owner) has a good friend who thinks I am at least half pedigreed Flame-point, but I do not have the sculpted, lean body of a Siamese. I am, however, a beautiful kitty with slightly crossed eyes that carries the basic traits of a flame point. Kathy and her friend wish they knew more about this gorgeous breed, but their (and my) best advice is to Google it! (You're sure to find something!) Good luck!



Answer by Fuji
Submitted on 7/13/2006
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Well I'm glad to know I have a Flame Point Siamese cat. white coat with a orangeish tale & ears, BIG BLUE eyes... His name is PUMA and he is now 4 months old... very playful easy to train and seems very smart.  Loves to sleep with me and is always in the same room... I'd like to add he is very brave for a 4month old cat because my girl brought her dog over and he got in his little fighting stance with his tale flared up and did not leave the dog alone for two days... very very cute I couldent be happier with this bread


Answer by newbe
Submitted on 8/3/2006
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I just adopted a 3 month old flame point boy from the local shelter. His name is Rocky because he is such a bully to my border collie.  I have never owned a cat before and am looking forward to learning all about him.  He is all white except for  very light tan rings on his tale.  He will be an indoor cat, and has already proven to be a great hunter.  Baby lizard in the house Who Knew?


Answer by Jenny
Submitted on 8/8/2006
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We have a flame point female who I always thought was a siamese mix. I did'nt know about flame points until we saw them in the pet store.  We found her 5 years ago in a local farm dump area.  We were driving down the dirt road and there she was sitting on top of the pile.  We thought we were'nt going to be able to catch her but she was very tame and lovable. She is the best cat we have ever had. I can't believe someone threw her away! Crossed eyed, yowly and so affectionate. We finally named her Whittle because I would baby talk to her and call her a cute whittle kitty.  It got so she responded to it.    


Answer by Zonaldenial
Submitted on 8/18/2006
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We purchased a Flame point (or colour point) Siamese 20 years ago.  He was in a liter that had almost every colour a Siamese can come in.  It was a very hard choice but we ended up choosing him because he had 6 toes on both of his front feet.  Zapphyre was a wonderful cat and very gentle with our children........when our then 1 year old daughter got rough with him he'd just walk away.  I don't think he ever clawed either of them.  He was 18 when he had kidney failure and we had to put him down.

It's been 2 years and we just picked up another Flame point.... :)


Answer by nycsiamese
Submitted on 8/24/2006
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Siamese do come in flamepoint coloration like you describe, but so do Tonkinese, and other Siamese-related breeds.  Sorry, but the "long-haired Siamese" mentioned above is likely a Balinese, Ragdoll, Birman, or Himalayan rather than a Siamese specifically.  All of these pointed breeds were initially developed from Siamese and outcrosses, but now breed true and are judged in their own categories at cat shows.

You can see many examples of flamepoint breeds and other color patterns at NYC Siamese Rescue (http://www.nycsiamese.org)


Answer by elizabeth
Submitted on 8/29/2006
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I have a pedigreed flamepoint 1 year old female that I got from a breeder.  I have known a lot of cats and she is one of the best--lots of personality and extremely devoted, affectionate, gentle and laid back.  She follows me around everywhere like a dog and comes much faster than my children when I call her.  She also lets my two small children carry her around and never scratches.  She is a little wary of strange men but this might be a good thing.  I am looking for another flamepoint from a rescue organization.  


Answer by mia
Submitted on 9/3/2006
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I have been researching this breed for the past hour because I just recently saved a beautiful one year old cat from the animal shelter that called her a 'flame point Siamese.' She has long hair, which surprised me, and I instantly thought maybe she was Himalayan, but she doesn't have a Persian face. She is creamy colored, blue-eyed, and has amber points that include her ears, muzzle-nose area, legs, tail, and tummy. Her tail is ringed a little...Everyone I know is telling me she is a mix or she couldn't be a Siamese because she has long hair or that the animal shelter was mistaken, but based on everything I am finding, including pictures, she looks just like them. I just wish there was a way to know for sure. Any advice or tips would be great!


Answer by Valerie
Submitted on 9/23/2006
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I've enjoyed reading all of your stories.  It warms my heart to know that there are so many people that genuinely love and care for their animals.  Our tiny mommy kitty had four kittens in April.  I didn't think any of them would survive since she was such a  tiny thing, but the kittens flourished and got bigger by the day.  I fed Callie Purina Kitten Chow (for the extra nutrients) and Science Diet canned food before, during, and after her pregnancy.  Not one of her kittens was a tortoiseshell.  Instead, she had two orange tabbies, one pure gray, and one flame point short hair mix.  When the kittens were ten weeks old, I took Callie in to have her spayed.  It broke my heart to have to give up the kittens, but three were adopted into good homes (through our veterinarian).  The staff complimented me on how big, healthy, and socialized the kittens were.  I decided to keep "Sparkle", since he was so beautiful and unique.  He is the first kitten I laid eyes on after mommy kitty moved the kittens from our neighbor's backyard to underneath our porch.  He is white with red-lynx points on his face, ears, and tail.  Oh, that beautiful tail.  It has orange rings all the way down and is very fat and soft!  He also has very light orange tabby markings on his legs and a hint of blush on his back.  His eyes are light blue.  He is absolutely beautiful.  He has his mother's meow which is very soft.  Sparkle is a lovey, and he follows me everywhere.  He always has to be touching me and loves sitting on my lap.  He's very affectionate and purrs at the drop of a hat.  He's also very smart.  When I throw his crunchy ball, he runs after it, picks it up in his mouth, brings it back to me, and drops it at my feet.  He also does this with his feathers-on-a-stick.  He's really something else!  He's only five and half months old and is much bigger than Callie.  I never knew I could be so enamored with a kitten!


Answer by levon
Submitted on 10/14/2006
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I have a two year old Flame Point named Rusty, and he is the sweetest cat ever! he was born all white with blue eyes and was the runt. In a few days, he started to develop orange ears, face, tail, and paws, and now has a creamy color. He has some odd traits- he loves to bump his nose and forehead on mine, and rub my face. He will demand attention, and gets so excited when he purrs, he starts to squeek. He will curl up in my lap, but the oddest thing is he loves to jump up onto my shoulder and back. He then flops around until he curls up for a nap. he will stay that way for as long as I tolerate. His brother Smudge is all white with a black tiger stripe on top of his forehead, and gold eyes. Their mom was a Himalayan with traditional Siamese markings, and they were the only white kittens.


Answer by Sara
Submitted on 10/18/2006
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So it looks like no one's been in this forum for a bit, but my flame-point girl just had kittens, all male, two of them have her markings, the other is orange tabby like the father.  So if any of you flame-point enthusiasts are interested, e-mail me at qualityinnbarbie@yahoo.com


Answer by donnaka
Submitted on 10/25/2006
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My daughter found a stray cat that is the best cat I've ever known.  Very calm, loves to be with people, only cries for "treats."  I showed a friend his picture and she said he looked like a flame point Siamese mix.  I've been reading the posts and it sounds like his personality, and he has the orange striped "candy cane" tail.  He's white with orange markings and the round face, not skinny like typical Siamese.  he has a little flat spot on the top of his head that looks like it comes to a point at the back because of the way the fur rests.  I always called him a "cow" cat, because he's white with orange spots on his back - perhaps these are the "freckles" from the sun? Or is there another type of cat like this?


Answer by shannon
Submitted on 11/3/2006
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i have a red flame siamese mix and he is sooooooooooo sweet-Solomon is his name but is sooooooo sweet i make the mistake of calling him a she-loves to be on my lap,and constantly petted-and i taught him to fetch and he does bring it back


Answer by shannon
Submitted on 11/3/2006
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i have a red flame siamese mix and he is sooooooooooo sweet-Solomon is his name but is sooooooo sweet i make the mistake of calling him a she-loves to be on my lap,and constantly petted-and i taught him to fetch and he does bring it back-his eyes are light light light blue


Answer by chanel
Submitted on 11/13/2006
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i have a flame point siamese and after reading all of the inquiries i can relate to all of you, my cat is very vocal if i scold him he will yell back. he also loves to wrestle with the other cats, he is smaller than the rest of my cats but always beats them. he is a joy to have


Answer by Emily
Submitted on 11/17/2006
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I am a breeder of flame point Siamese and i have 10 at he moment and they are a cream color with a yellow points


Answer by valz
Submitted on 11/26/2006
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I got Pusspuss fr. an animal shelter. He was surrendered by a breeder because he had a kink in his tail. He has bright blue eyes, light orange points with tabby markings. He trills, talks, does all types of vocalizations and will talk back to you. He hugs your neck and does visitor' hair with his paws, esp. blondes! I am thrilled to know what kind of cat he is and that there are others like him. I love that he makes lots of noise because my other cats are becoming talkers too! He has med. hair length and is letting me brush him now that he sees all the attention my others get when being brushed.He uses his front paws like hands and dances on his hind legs around any food. He sleeps in my face near my pillow and switches sides if I do.


Answer by MikeG
Submitted on 12/20/2006
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I just adopted a 7 month old male flame point and his sister a snowshoe on Sunday, they were kind of skittish and hiding until 4am this morning when the flame point decided that daddy's beard needed cleaned!   The Snowshoe followed suit so I had 2 cats grooming my beard at 4am .. gotta love em  


Answer by TazTyger
Submitted on 12/29/2006
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Hello..I just adopted a 4 month old flame point siamese kitten from the animal shelter. I didn't know there were such a thing as flame point siamese cats. Obviously he is a mix between a siamese and an orange tabby because his orange tail is barely striped. He reminds me of a creamsicle.


Answer by Dianna
Submitted on 1/11/2007
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We have Emily, our shy little blue point rescue Siamese.  She is just wonderful. But, I did not adopt a beautiful bright red redheaded siamese kitten when I had the chance. This is a decision I have regreted ever since. I am still looking for a bright red redhead siamese kitten in Arizona or Southern New Mexico.


Answer by kelleygreen
Submitted on 1/19/2007
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We have a male flame point about 6 months old. He already weighs 8 pounds. What a personality! and those slightly crossed light blue eyes...he has webbed toes and a barely ringed very long tail. he has very short hair and a muscular body. the lady I got him from said he is mixed with Mt.Shasta Manx and some of the kittens in this litter were manx. He's a real 'people person' and is totally in love with my older, black female cat. They lick each other's faces, wrestle, and sleep together!


Answer by Harley Davidson
Submitted on 1/20/2007
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Harley is a true Flame Point Siamese... He has all of the true character markings with his piercing blue eyes with violet flecks and has some flame colored Egptian Maw spots on th sides of his back... Plus, he has thumbs, which he uses to grip things since I have had him fully declawed! He is a chatter bug and winnie... He is a very lovable little guy and loves to snuggle and always follows me around to see what I'm doing! He's extremely playful, highly intellegent and we have even trained him to fetch his toys... These cats are so easy to train and understand completely when your talking to them. I can tell Harley to go get his toy and he immediately starts looking for it until he finds one! And, then will carry it to me by his mouth, drop it at my feet, wait for me to toss it so he can retrive it and bring it right back to me to toss it again! I have had cats my whole life, have never lived a day without one and he is by far the best well mannered, smartest little kitty I have ever had! One down fall thou, since he was totally declawed, he bites to get attention... If you ignore him for too long, he will let ya know it! His favorte playtime is when I make the bed and laying in the sun is a favorte pastime!!! To keep him lean and muscular, I keep dry food in his dish all the time, he only eats when he's hungrey and he gets a can of food once a week as a special treat! No people food for this kitty! Also, since I got him at 6 weeks, I have given him a bath once a month and he simply love them! It keeps his creamy coat neat, shinny and the hairball factor down to a minimum...


Answer by Nancy Tennier
Submitted on 2/4/2007
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I can't believe all the attributes of this Flame point Siamese.  I have had many Siamese over the years but I find the flame point to be extraordinary.  It is almost a breed unto its own.  I have an 11 month old unaltered male, I bought him in July/06 & my female blue point  had a litter of kittens in January/07.  Surprise to me, I didn't know she had been in heat.  Sadly there are no flame point kittens, they are blue & lilac.  My Flame is the most loving father, he cleans the kittens & sleeps with them.  This makes him all the more precious to me.  I have never fallen in love with a cat like I did him.  He is very aggressive with our neutered male blue point, sadly, I think I will have him fixed as the fights are really troublesome.  It is wonderful to read all of your comments on this wonderful breed of cat.  


Answer by shelley
Submitted on 3/6/2007
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Hi i had two siamese for 16 years they lived for and they were a seal and a chocolate point and am wanting to get another siamese and was searching the internet and found what they call a flame point so was wondering what the flame point was as have never heard of this colour and with a lot of the answers above me im thinking that what you call a flame point we know them as red points over here in australia please correct me if im wrong as im realy interested what a flame point is


Answer by HOLH
Submitted on 3/21/2007
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I was only familiar with the seal point and lilac point siamese until last year when I adopted a Flame point siamese (applehead) from Siamese Rescue-Texas.  He is absolutely gorgeous and a big boy at over 14 1bs.  His nose and pads are all pink.  Everyone who sees him says that is the most beautiful cat.  He is super smart and loves my 3 year old son.  He follows me around and I call him "The White Shadow" as he seemingly appears like magic.  My research says that there are two overall categories of siamese: The Wedge and The Traditional (applehead).  Flame points are usally listed as color points.  The Wedge is only shown at Cat Fancier shows.  The Traditional has its own association with appropriate shows.  Nonetheless, both types of siamese are highly intelligent and devoted. They need their human family.  My boy is always on the scene!  Love to the Meezer people of the world.



Answer by Polywogger
Submitted on 3/28/2007
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I am curious about the flame point Siamese. My father in law has what I believe to be one of the first cats from the first litters of a flame point Siamese breed. yes I said one of the first.  this beautiful boy is 19 going on 20 years old now. And just as magnificent as ever. cream coloured with nice red points. water blue eyes.. but as he is getting up there in his age.. his red is becoming more and more prodomonent. And he has the most amazing dark speckles on the skinny tip of his pink nose. He loves to yowl alot and is very affectionate.
here is a link to his picture.. the name..Rusty :)
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Answer by The Cat Lady
Submitted on 3/29/2007
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The flame point Siamese is the greatest cat in the world. I found my Bailey at a breeder. She had no hair on her front legs, was covered with fleas, had an eye infection, an ear infection and was coughing and sneezing blood. I grabbed her as she was trying to escape. She lay her head in my hand an looked up at me with the bluest eyes I have ever seen. Her gaze seemed to say, 'If you leave me hear I will die.' I took her to the vet and we fought for 2 weeks to save her. Thank God we did. She hiked with me, camped out and was my protector and best friend. She learned to walk on a leash and when off leash heeled like a dog. My Bailey passed away 2 years ago at the age of 14. I am still crying for her. I miss her. Those of you that were lucky enough to get a flame point remember they are a precious gift.


Answer by none ya
Submitted on 4/1/2007
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I have one flame point called Spencor. I didn't even know there was a breed of a flame point. We adopted him at Pets Mart. He is a beatiful pure bread. He is a creamy white cat with brownish red stripes and his eyes are very light pretty blue. I wish i had another one if you are looking for a cat this is the perfect cat. They are so CUTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Answer by rw
Submitted on 4/2/2007
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i have an 8 wk old flame point and he is a terror, i got from the humane society and haviving trouble typeing this because he keeps jumping up here to participate.  i look foward to many years with him.


Answer by Mallory
Submitted on 5/2/2007
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We have a flame point but she is a long hair which I guess isn't that common considering most posted comments are about short hair. Mine is named Kitty John and she is such a cool cat! She isn't crossed eyed so maybe doesn't have a lot of Siamese in her. Anyway great breed and great cat! So cool to find this site


Answer by kitty
Submitted on 5/15/2007
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i have one of these cats it is siamese mixed with burmese.they have blue eyes and have a cream coat with fire, red,brownstripes on there tail and head. with fire ears.and they love to cuddle and are always there with you.


Answer by caitie09
Submitted on 5/19/2007
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i just got a flame point siamese kitten and we named her caroline because, she cries so much and when my father sings the song "sweet caroline" she stops whining and purrs and goes to sleep,we got her a week ago and she is only 7 weeks old now and is a peanut, she loves to play,i think it is her favorite thing to do... but she has a problem of knowing what to bite and scratch and what not to...but we've been trying to teach her, and right know she is eating the keyboard! she has cream colored nose, ears and tail but the tail is also ringed with white! i would recommend her to annoyone tht loves kittens but she is in need of constant attention! yes she is a whiner, we've always had siamese cats but never heard of a flame point and mom didnt even believe the owner when she told us that it was a rare kind of siamese kitten. so im doing some re8search and ca,e across this webpage! hope you  understood all that i was saying and enjoy your cat!


Answer by tmart
Submitted on 5/22/2007
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Chester is my "heart".  He is a flame point but must not be a pure bred (if there is such thing) cuz he has the rings around his tail.  I love him to death!  He is very smart and gets along with the kitten I got for him.  He even taught the kitten (Grady) to do his talking for him ...so I call Grady his "SpokesCat" since Chess rarely speaks...which I know is unusual.
I highly recommend this breed!!!!


Answer by Sam M
Submitted on 5/30/2007
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I had what I called a red point Siamese (Because that is obviously what she was) back in 1986. At the time I made many inquires and was told that there was no such animal. Tai-Pan as she was named had very Siamese build, although not as extremely wedge shaped as many are now, yet she had large sphinx like ears and a wedge shaped head, and was fairly vocal. Loving with us she was vicious with most other creatures. She had bright orange ears and nose, cream paws fading to almost white on the body with a fairly well marked ring tail fading away toward the body. Body build was slight and Siamese in conformation and had the faintest of tabby markings on the legs only where they were creamy but not where the body was off-white. Eyes were uncrossed and bright blue. She was somewhat vocal, with a Siamese yowl, but normally quiet.

At that time (mid-80's) I eventually found some vague references to "Red points" existing, but being refused "Siamese" status by the powers that determine such things. The best they would say about them was that they were "Pointed shorthairs."  Within a few years I started noticing that there were gray tabby "pointed shorthairs" around and they seemed far more common than the red variety.

By the 90's I was seeing more "Red points" and they seem to have attained some acceptance in the pedigreed community. Tai-pan (If she had lived and had had papers) would now be considered a true "Red Point Siamese."

Interestingly: I found a NEW Tai-Pan in 1999 being handed away for free in a box in front of my local Wal-Mart! I snatched him up in a heartbeat. This after growing up is either some type of a mix, or perhaps what they now seem to be calling a cream point? I'm not sure. The new Tai-Pan is a large apple headed male with very bright orange ears and nose, blue eyes, dark creamy orange feet fading to a cream colored belly with a peachy orange back. Tail is strongly ringed as a tabby, and has tiger tabby creamy stripe makings on his legs fading into the solid cream of the body. His forehead has the distinctive tabby "M" mark on it. Other than having the Siamese points on him and the blue eyes, he is fairly unsiamese like. Not vocal at all, about all you can get out of him is a kind of a purry squeak when you pick him up. (He doesn't like being held) Other than that his behavior is more dog like than feline. He follows my son everywhere, and if he is not available, you will usually find him on the kids bed, or possibly sleeping near my wife or I. (He likes to be around someone if he can.) Tai-Pan is a bit fuzzier with softer fur than either a Siamese or a domestic tabby has -- he seems to be missing that hard outer coat. He is the best looking cat I have ever seen. He begs for food like a dog. Since these type of cats seem to be becoming more common, the world will hopefully become a better place for it.


Answer by Kimmy
Submitted on 5/31/2007
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I adopted my flame point at the local Humane Shelter about a year ago.  His name is Mo, but I call him Meow...  He is the most loveable, clingy, purring, "talking" cat I've ever seen.  He loves to be constantly touching another human in the family.  He lets our little puppy climb and bite on him...as he lays on the floor, thinking he's being groomed!  Great cats!


Answer by yippit
Submitted on 6/2/2007
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My husband and I adopted a flame point after the loss of our orange tabby.  We had him for 12 years.  He was a most affection and loving companion.  The new addition to our family has been with us for one month. He is 4 years old.  His name is Gus. He was an abuse case but has been rehabilited.  Only with us for a month and he has truly captured our hearts.


Answer by Boo's Mom
Submitted on 7/15/2007
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My family and I adopted a male flame point 4 weeks ago from the local animal shelter.  He is probably about 12 weeks old and he is the funniest, sweetest, cutest cat ever.  He has an all white body with a little peach/pink around his ear and the starting of a striped peach/pink tail.  He has the bluest eyes that just melt your heart. We have a 8 year old toy poodle (female) and a black and white male cat (5 years) and they all bonded so quickly.  I thought it would take weeks before they all got along but within days they were all playing and sleeping together.  He is a DELIGHT!


Answer by cat lover
Submitted on 7/15/2007
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Flame Points are the absolute best cat I've ever had....I adopted a 1 year old flame point about 23 years ago, fell totally in love with him...unique personality, almost like a dog without having a dog....very smart, intellegent and loyal...he was a real cuddler and his motor pretty much never stopped, he purred non stop !!!!  He was wonderful with the kids (and other animals) but was pretty daft for some reason in the hunting department - he had more fun chasing dragonflies !! I had him for almost 20 years and I was heartbroken when I had to have him put down due to illness....I finally managed to find and adopt my 2nd flame point and I love him just as much....his demeanor is much the same as my last guy but I'll have to see over the next few months his full personality...I can tell already that he's gonna be quite the cuddler and talker..... and it's only been 4 days....he's still determining his pecking order with my other 2 guys, a choc point and siamese cross (as well as the dog !!!)....I don't understand how the original owner (and the other individual who adopted him before me) could ever have given him up !!!....best of luck with your flame point, I'm sure you'll enjoy  


Answer by Nimbrethil
Submitted on 7/16/2007
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I picked up a kitten listed as a flamepoint Siamese at our local shelter a week ago, and did some research on the breed, as I've never seen a Siamese with that coloration.

What I found is:

They are not true Siamese cats.

Basically, a purebred Siamese cat comes in only four point colors:  blue, seal, lilac, and chocolate, though it may come in either the traditional or contemporary body style.

A purebred cat that looks like a Siamese but has points in other colors than the above four is what's been labeled as a "Colorpoint Shorthair."  I'm not too clear on the details of the breeding, but the purpose I believe was to createa  Siamese cat with other available points colors.  So, no, it's not a 'true' Siamese in the strictest sense, though it has been classified as its own breed now and is often considered to BE a Siamese cat.

Also, many breeders who work with Colorpoints also tend to work with Siamese as well.

Obviously a cat can 'look' like either a Siamese or a Colorpoint, but actually be a hybrid that favors its Siamese or Colorpoint parent.  This will be the case with nearly ALL shelter adoptees.

FYI "domestic shorthair" is the technical term used to refer to cats of mixed breeding.  By referring it as such your vet was acknowledging the cat's unknown but certain mixed-breed heritage AND its colors.


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