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Answer by Gattuch
Submitted on 1/27/2004
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I have one of these cats too. He is almost 3 years old. His name is PJ but his nickname is Lovebug because he is the sweetest cat ever. He loves to snuggle and cuddle. He always has to be touching me or laying on my lap. The only annoying thing about him is because he is a siamese, he whines a lot. He is always meowing about something...because he can see the bottom of his food bowl, because he is in the other room and is to lazy to come to me or just because he feels like it. He always talks to me, I just have to say his name and he will start meowing like crazy. But like I said, he is a lovebug and tries to make up for his annoying meowing when he can. He likes to play, he loves catnip and his cat post. He likes to help me make my bed, he jumps on top of the sheets and pushes the air pockets out as I try to put them on. He is a great cat, a lot of fun and I would recommend this type of cat to people that not necessarily spend all their time at home but are home frequently. They like to see people and be with people.

Answer by MeezerMama
Submitted on 2/3/2004
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There are many different color points associated with the Siamese Breed. Seal is the most traditional with a ivory body that darkens with age and the dark brown almost black points. There are also Blue Points, Chocolate Points, Lilac Points, and Flame Points. These colors are generally accepted by the purebred cat associations. There are others you might hear of that came about from mixed breeds. Flames have anything from a pinky light cream to dark red point color with pink nose and paw leather and a white body. If your cat is a mix, you may see light tabby stripes on the legs, face or tail. For more info on the Siamese Breed, check this website: http://www.cfainc.org/breeds/profiles/siamese.html To see more Siamese Cats, check out Texas Siamese Rescue at http://tx.siameserescue.org/

Answer by J.B.
Submitted on 4/28/2004
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I have had this flame point Siamese for 4 years now and there has never been a more loyal cat.I found him at the Animal Shelter close to my home and fell in love with him.He has black spots around his mouth and I asked his vet about them. She said that they were "freckles" from lying in the sun. Which he does as much as possible. He talks a lot and is funny and dear.The only thing is, that anytime I turn on the hair dryer, he comes running in from whereever he is and bites me on the calf of my leg. Not hard.He doesn't break the skin or anything, but I have learned to close the door if I'm using the hair dryer. He's quite a hunter too. The vet says he's around 8 years old now and I hope he's around for many many years.

Answer by utmargarita
Submitted on 6/21/2004
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Respose to LV'spost: "I'm still looking for a friend for him." Have you tried www.petfinder.com? It's a clearing house for animal shelters and rescue groups. You can specify that you are looking for a cat and even indicate what age and sex you would prefer. Be sure to click the box for photo previews and search regionally unless you are willing to travel a long way from home. We found Bebe on this website. I had to drive 100 miles to get her, but I could tell from her picture and the description of her that she was the one for us. She had been surrendered to a shelter by a previous owner. Because she was very anxious and cowered and shook from fright a lady with a local rescue group decided to foster her--she didn't think anyone would adopt her from the shelter. It took about two months for Bebe to come around after we adopted her, but now she and Boudie are best buddies and although she is very shy with strangers she is very sweet and loving with us--she still doesn't like to be picked up, but she will follow us around and sometimes flop over on her back for a tummy scratch!

Answer by Ellen
Submitted on 7/9/2004
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We adopted Simon, a big 14 lb. flame point Siamese mix from the Arizona Humane Society six years ago when he was the "Pet of the Week", he was around 5 years old then. He is such a wonderful animal! He is a great comfort when I'm not feeling good and cuddles next to my leg to keep it warm when it hurts - recovering from a difficult fracture. He, too, is a great hunter and regularly brings us presents like birds and lizards. He is very active for his age and patrols the yard to keep any intruders away - helps him keep his trim shape. We've had Siamese cats for 30 years and while he is a mix according to the vet, he is a really great pet and very different from the other cats we've had. I highly recommend this breed.

Answer by snowieanangel
Submitted on 7/9/2004
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Congradulations on your new friend! I just lost my snowball after 16 years together. He was mostly white, with creamy paws, round race with orange striped mask, and orange ringed tail (candy cane tail, per the kids) He was the one of the most loving, patient cats I had ever known. My girls found him and his brother? a grey tabby w/gold eyes, shaped like a siamese with a mouth to boot.(Buster, still going strong, on meds for thyroid problem) Snow had renal failure. They were tiny kittens, starving, and sick. We soon discovered Snow was blind-he had a little trouble learning to be housebroken. He was such a nosy kitty we had to put baby locks on some of the cabinets. He also liked to scratch on the carpet under my bedroom door if it was shut (and I was on the other side!) I cant bear to fix the damage now, we find it very precious. He had a stocky body and short nose, the most beautiful blue eyes, pink nose and paw pads (loved to have his feet rubbed) He also had a thick plush coat, two coats (siamese coat) per the vet-but obviously a mix. He was beautiful inside and out, and all of us miss him terribly. He was the stable mate and buddy of all our other cats. They are all still upset, after almost two weeks. It is so wonderful to read about all the rescued cats finding loving homes. I have lived in this neighborhood for almost 20 years, and I have taken in 7 cats! Folks just think cats can shift for themselves, and they cant. Mixed breeds are the best, and I know all our cats are grateful for their home now. Enjoy! .

Answer by Clyde's Mama
Submitted on 8/12/2004
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This posting is great - I love hearing stories of other flame points. My Clyde is also blue/cross-eyed (like Buddy?) He is my first cat and he's a hunter too (he was a stray who decided he was living with me) Now he's indoors all the time and wrestles with his little brother (he's all black - a nice contrast) Clyde hardly talks though, only a pitiful meow when he really wants to go outside. Other than that he's more of a purrer, needer, drooler. And that sweetest thing alive. Since you all seem like total animal lovers - there is a website call petster.com where you can register your pet and put up pics and make friends with other pets. It's pretty cute. :) You can see my boys at www.clydeandsalem.itgo.com :)

Answer by Kathy
Submitted on 8/27/2004
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Sandman-Sinatra, came to my back door about four years ago. I couldn't let him in. I had 8 cats at the time. He kept begging to come in. I knew he was a male and that he was probably neutered. ( He had manners.) Anyway, after six months, I let him in. Took him to the vet's. He wasn't upset about being in a carrier. He was tested for everything and was ok. He is very sweet and loving with me. He has a love/hate relationship with Zack, my other boy cat. He is very vocal with certain subjects. Cat dish, water dish and wanting out, or in. Then, if you are just petting him, or he is comfortable sleeping by you and you rub him, he just purrs and makes small meows The other week, he was outside. (The only inside/outside cat. I have six.) There was a terrible rain storm and he didn't come home that night. The week-end went by and he still wasn't home. I made up fliers and put them in the local vet's office, apartment complexes, etc. On a Friday, after a week,I had a call from a lady that had seen the flier at one of the vet's offices. I had another call from the vet that takes in stray's. I had to describe Sandman, tell them what he does, etc. They were very careful. Purrs and meows very loving. He has the blue eyes, crossed, white body and orange ears and tail. I went to the Clinic and it was Sandman. They called him Sinatra, because of his blue eyes. Needless to say, I had to re-name him, Sandman-Sinatra and he is no longer going outside. I know that he misses it, but I don't want anything to happen to him. He has been home for a week and sleeping close to me every night. The talking can be a little irritating, but, he is a keeper!

Answer by Bluecanoe
Submitted on 10/27/2004
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We just lost our wonderful little boy Monday night, he was a flame point Siamese, and a pure bred. His name was Canoe and died of liver cancer at the age of 13 years, far too soon as far as we are concerned. We'd had Canoe since he was 6 weeks old, he was given to us by a friend who had a chocolate point male and a Tori point female after they mated before he could get them fixed. Canoe had three chocolate point sisters and a brother who was another flame identical to himself. I've loved all my cats, but this one was really special. He was such a people cat that we often forgot that he wasn't a little person and talked to him as if he could understand everything we said, and seriously he often reacted as if he had. He ran this house, rounded up people when he knew it was their bedtime, nudged you awake if you didn't hear your alarm and would greet you at the door when you came home. He loved riding around on your shoulder and would clap his paws together in a begging motion to be picked up. In his 13 years, he never hissed, scratched or bit anyone. He was the gentlest little guy I've ever known and the best cuddler in the world. A cat that loved his head kissed to the point of asking for kisses regularly. I can't say anything negative about him, he was so loved by anyone who came to our home. I miss him terribly and can't imagine my life now without him.

Answer by Abby
Submitted on 12/13/2004
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After 8 years of companionship from my big fat (15 lbs) Rascalbear, I have just this week found out that he is a flamepoint! Not pure, as he has some light tabbying on his sides, but close enough. I just always thought he was a yellow tabby with a little Siamese thrown in somewhere in the mix, but with his big blue crossed eyes and the toasted-marshmallow coloring on his face and tail, my vet said nope - flamepoint for sure. He also has a few freckles on his nose, from lying in the sun. I would recommend this breed to anyone who loves a cat that demands their love. Rascalbear is very much an "attention-whore", and will squawk, poke at you, or even hurl himself to the ground with a grunt and show his belly to get your attention. He loves nothing more in the world than to have his shoulders and butt patted and scratched. Sadly, his buddy Q-Bert (a 14 year old grey/white domestic shorthair) passed away a few weeks ago. Rascalbear has never been alone, and was a crying miserable mess (like me!) for several days. I am hoping to get a kitten in the near future to keep him company, and I would love so much for it to be another flamepoint. Hopefully I will get lucky and find one! :)

Answer by Lindsay
Submitted on 1/15/2005
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I have 3 cats two are just domestic short-haired tabby'sand my third whose only 2 1/2 months old is a flame point siamese and we just found out today! The vet told us and she told us how absolutely beautiful he is. His name is Hemi and he is so sweet he's a little shy around visitors but if they are a cat lover he can immediately tell and will love on you on the sofa we found him at a boat landing in our town where he was abandoned and we rescued him and our little tabby Halo who was very sick at the time. He was so passive to our 6 month kitty Holiday that when he first saw her he walked around with his tail crammed between his legs and his belly so low it was almost dragging the ground. He is very lovable and snuggly he isn't very talkative but he has the beautiful markings of a light amber on his mask paws hind legs tail and ears. He has crystal blue eyes that are so striking that he gets away with murder because all he has to do is look at you and gets whatever. He adores the other 2 females and lays and licks their necks he loves sleeping in the bed and hiding behind things when my son comes home from the school bus. He loves his cat tree and his mice he drags them around from his mouth and if he passes any of the other cats even though they don't want anything to do with his mouse he will walk by them and growl, then he goes and buries them under the bed every couple days we pull them back out and he does it all over again sweetest cat ever once you earn their trust!!!! Congrats on your new addition!

Answer by poppies
Submitted on 8/23/2005
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I have just adopted a cat. He has a cream coloured body that seems a little short for a Siamese nor does he have any colouring on his feet, he is red-orange from his blue eyes to his mouth and light orange ears with a red-orange tail. Any cat that I've had with this colour has always deepened as they got older. He has a longish face and is 13 weeks old. I'm not sure or his heritage, but I think he has Siamese in him. I've been told he is a Red Flame Point, and he is a male. When I take pictures of him, his eyes glow amber. I fell in love with him the minute I saw him. He's very good natured and loves to play with my orange tabby who is 11 months. He is cuddly and sleeps with me. His brother had the chocolate points. I wish I could send a picture for you to see. Any ideas on my kitten?

Answer by Carolina
Submitted on 9/23/2005
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I am fascinated by the fact that so many of these cats were adopted at shelters, lost, ect. That is exactly the case in my situation. I had to put my calico cat down after 16 years together, then my Malamute was suddenly diagnosed with cancer a month later, and had to be put down immediately. I have been terribly heartbroken. On a whim, I decided to go to the pound to rescue a cat. I walked into the cat area where they were all stacked in small kennels. Suddenly.... this white paw whipped out and grabbed me. It cracked me up. There was this funny looking white/peach colored Siamese cat looking at me. That was it. As a child, I had a seal-point Siamese cat for many years, and I knew how interesting they are. So far, he has vanished for 10 days (after hanging around at my house for 2 weeks), but I found him through an add in the paper. He was only a street away, and having a ball. I think I have him convinced to stay. He is the funniest cat. Full of energy and rarely sleeps. When he does, it has to be right around your face or neck. I do have a problem though. I have another cat of 15 years who is extremely unhappy about this new addition. Any advice would be appreciated. Anyway, I just love this guy. Oh, any I named him Ming.

Answer by BB's Dad
Submitted on 12/3/2005
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BB(Big Baby) middle name 'Ajax' Eyes: crystal blue 13 lbs. Coat: beige with very thick winter coat then sheds in spring. showed up at my door about 31/2 yrs ago and is about my closest friend . He listens to all my problems and sometimes seems to offer suggestions, "if you feed me, scratch me, let me out, let me in, and let me sleep on the bed with you, I'll fix everything". After adopting me, he was sun bathing in the window sill one afternoon and as I sat down to the computer he just decided to make about a 3and a half foot leap right dead onto my head! I've never seen this strange behavior before, but then again, he IS a Siamese. B.B. is a fixed male and had his front nails removed which I highly disapprove of. He seems to fend for himself, though.B.B. is a very handsome lad and likes to be reminded of this fact. He is about 13 lbs with crystal blue eyes and not one but two kinks in his tail. B.B. does not have the typical Siamese meow but rather several "voices". If he really wants my attention from the other room he almost "barks". I suspect he went through kitten-hood with dogs or something.B.B. is beige with very red tufts at all the points. He is fixed, but is still quite territorial and not afraid of a 'scrap'. Perhaps he is good at bluffing. He follows me for half a block in the morning when I go for my walk and is waiting for me when I get back. He usually 'springs' out from under a bush and attacks my white cane or my shoe laces. He is quite a hoot. Yes, I spoil him with some tuna on Fridays. Believe it or not he knows when Friday afternoon is! He teases the next door neighbors dogs by swaggering over to the fence and peering through the pickets while they bark unceasingly. B.B. just switches his double kinked tail which looks more like a dog wagging a short tail. Quite humerous. Sometimes he will walk up to me as I sit outside and turns around with his back to me and if I don't immediately pet him he proceeds to 'poke ' me on the leg with his stubby tail to remind me that he is near. B.B. is quite loyal and doesn't usually take to strangers readily with the exception of attractive women.(good kitty!).He seems to possess very powerful hind legs as he can easily leap up a 6.5 ft fence. It was revealed to me that after his initial leap, he seems to almost "walk" up the rest of the way and then just disappears over the back fence to the countryside where there are some feral cats.He can't resist chasing a dangling string, rope, thread, robe cord or untied shoe -lace!He is always ready for a good wrestling session and is not bashful about using his teeth either! This cat has some really interesting behaviors, too numerous to explain here, but he is my best 'bud', and will always be .

Answer by Sandy
Submitted on 1/19/2006
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I just drove nine hours to buy a Flame Point Siamese that is one year old and registered. His ears are orange but not his feet or face/nose as Siamese are. And his tail has orange with white rings. I told the woman I was disappointed in him,did not want to buy him and because I knew he had to get rid of him, I told her I would find a good home for him through a group I foster for. Conveniently, she did not have his registration paper there to give to me. Very suspicious. She tells me the cat is her son's. Her son tells me it is his mom's and they have to get rid of it because she's too old to care for him...Anyway, when I got him home, I swear to you all that he looks EXACTLY like my Snow Bengal cat.

Answer by Riki from Ky
Submitted on 1/20/2006
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I am sure that your cat is a flame point. I found my chewy at a flea market, were we have been going to find siamese cats or fruit bats as my family like to call them due to the baby siamese looking like little fruit bats with their dark points and incredibly adorable big ears about 6mths ago. He is the sweetest thing in the world and sooo playful and loves to play with my three children. He is a cream pink color and definitely has the flame point marks on the tail,ears,mask,and legs. He is about 8mths old now and i would not give him up for anything. He loves my other cat to, maybe alittle too much because she is now an expected mother i thought he was to young i guess age doesn't matter. Enjoy your baby he is the real thing

Answer by Tattoobabe7
Submitted on 3/4/2006
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I WOULD LOVE TO SAY I HAPPILY ADOPTED 2 MALE 6MONTH OLD BROTHERS THAT ARE MEDIUM HAIRED, FLAME POINT PURE SIAMESE CATS ON 3/4/06. I ALREADY PROUDLY OWN A RARE MALE BLUE POINT SIAMESE, AND A CHOCOLATE POINT FEMALE, WHOM I'VE HAD BOTH FOR 6 YEARS NOW. MY 2 NEW FLAME POINT BROTHERS ARE A BIT AGGRESSIVE WHERE THEY HAVE BEEN IN A SHELTER SINCE BIRTH, BUT I HAVE A BIG LOVING ANIMAL HEART, AND PATIENCE, AND THEY WILL HAVE THE VERY BEST OF A NEW HOME, ALL THEY NEED IS LOTS OF TLC. I NAMED THEM...BLAZE, AND BLADE / BLAZE IS MORE AGGRESSIVE AND WILL NEED MORE TIME TO COME AROUND THAN HIS BROTHER BLADE...LOL THEY ARE TRULY AN EXCITING WONDERFUL ANIMAL, AND THEY SHOULD BE CHERISHED, THEY ARE A RARE BREED.

Answer by Lily
Submitted on 7/9/2006
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Hey! I am a flame-point Siamese that a my owner found at the park. I was a stray but had once had a home and adapted quickly to my new people. I have a pink nose flecked with brown specks and pink "pads" on my feet. My eyes are the clear blue of the morning sky and my cream and white coat has faint tabby stripes dotted with brown. I have fire colored tufted ears that are soft and the same color as my paws and forehead, that has the traditional "M" of a tabby. Kathy (my owner) has a good friend who thinks I am at least half pedigreed Flame-point, but I do not have the sculpted, lean body of a Siamese. I am, however, a beautiful kitty with slightly crossed eyes that carries the basic traits of a flame point. Kathy and her friend wish they knew more about this gorgeous breed, but their (and my) best advice is to Google it! (You're sure to find something!) Good luck! www.google.com

Answer by mia
Submitted on 9/3/2006
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I have been researching this breed for the past hour because I just recently saved a beautiful one year old cat from the animal shelter that called her a 'flame point Siamese.' She has long hair, which surprised me, and I instantly thought maybe she was Himalayan, but she doesn't have a Persian face. She is creamy colored, blue-eyed, and has amber points that include her ears, muzzle-nose area, legs, tail, and tummy. Her tail is ringed a little...Everyone I know is telling me she is a mix or she couldn't be a Siamese because she has long hair or that the animal shelter was mistaken, but based on everything I am finding, including pictures, she looks just like them. I just wish there was a way to know for sure. Any advice or tips would be great!

Answer by Valerie
Submitted on 9/23/2006
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I've enjoyed reading all of your stories. It warms my heart to know that there are so many people that genuinely love and care for their animals. Our tiny mommy kitty had four kittens in April. I didn't think any of them would survive since she was such a tiny thing, but the kittens flourished and got bigger by the day. I fed Callie Purina Kitten Chow (for the extra nutrients) and Science Diet canned food before, during, and after her pregnancy. Not one of her kittens was a tortoiseshell. Instead, she had two orange tabbies, one pure gray, and one flame point short hair mix. When the kittens were ten weeks old, I took Callie in to have her spayed. It broke my heart to have to give up the kittens, but three were adopted into good homes (through our veterinarian). The staff complimented me on how big, healthy, and socialized the kittens were. I decided to keep "Sparkle", since he was so beautiful and unique. He is the first kitten I laid eyes on after mommy kitty moved the kittens from our neighbor's backyard to underneath our porch. He is white with red-lynx points on his face, ears, and tail. Oh, that beautiful tail. It has orange rings all the way down and is very fat and soft! He also has very light orange tabby markings on his legs and a hint of blush on his back. His eyes are light blue. He is absolutely beautiful. He has his mother's meow which is very soft. Sparkle is a lovey, and he follows me everywhere. He always has to be touching me and loves sitting on my lap. He's very affectionate and purrs at the drop of a hat. He's also very smart. When I throw his crunchy ball, he runs after it, picks it up in his mouth, brings it back to me, and drops it at my feet. He also does this with his feathers-on-a-stick. He's really something else! He's only five and half months old and is much bigger than Callie. I never knew I could be so enamored with a kitten!

Answer by levon
Submitted on 10/14/2006
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I have a two year old Flame Point named Rusty, and he is the sweetest cat ever! he was born all white with blue eyes and was the runt. In a few days, he started to develop orange ears, face, tail, and paws, and now has a creamy color. He has some odd traits- he loves to bump his nose and forehead on mine, and rub my face. He will demand attention, and gets so excited when he purrs, he starts to squeek. He will curl up in my lap, but the oddest thing is he loves to jump up onto my shoulder and back. He then flops around until he curls up for a nap. he will stay that way for as long as I tolerate. His brother Smudge is all white with a black tiger stripe on top of his forehead, and gold eyes. Their mom was a Himalayan with traditional Siamese markings, and they were the only white kittens.

Answer by donnaka
Submitted on 10/25/2006
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My daughter found a stray cat that is the best cat I've ever known. Very calm, loves to be with people, only cries for "treats." I showed a friend his picture and she said he looked like a flame point Siamese mix. I've been reading the posts and it sounds like his personality, and he has the orange striped "candy cane" tail. He's white with orange markings and the round face, not skinny like typical Siamese. he has a little flat spot on the top of his head that looks like it comes to a point at the back because of the way the fur rests. I always called him a "cow" cat, because he's white with orange spots on his back - perhaps these are the "freckles" from the sun? Or is there another type of cat like this?

Answer by valz
Submitted on 11/26/2006
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I got Pusspuss fr. an animal shelter. He was surrendered by a breeder because he had a kink in his tail. He has bright blue eyes, light orange points with tabby markings. He trills, talks, does all types of vocalizations and will talk back to you. He hugs your neck and does visitor' hair with his paws, esp. blondes! I am thrilled to know what kind of cat he is and that there are others like him. I love that he makes lots of noise because my other cats are becoming talkers too! He has med. hair length and is letting me brush him now that he sees all the attention my others get when being brushed.He uses his front paws like hands and dances on his hind legs around any food. He sleeps in my face near my pillow and switches sides if I do.

Answer by Harley Davidson
Submitted on 1/20/2007
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Harley is a true Flame Point Siamese... He has all of the true character markings with his piercing blue eyes with violet flecks and has some flame colored Egptian Maw spots on th sides of his back... Plus, he has thumbs, which he uses to grip things since I have had him fully declawed! He is a chatter bug and winnie... He is a very lovable little guy and loves to snuggle and always follows me around to see what I'm doing! He's extremely playful, highly intellegent and we have even trained him to fetch his toys... These cats are so easy to train and understand completely when your talking to them. I can tell Harley to go get his toy and he immediately starts looking for it until he finds one! And, then will carry it to me by his mouth, drop it at my feet, wait for me to toss it so he can retrive it and bring it right back to me to toss it again! I have had cats my whole life, have never lived a day without one and he is by far the best well mannered, smartest little kitty I have ever had! One down fall thou, since he was totally declawed, he bites to get attention... If you ignore him for too long, he will let ya know it! His favorte playtime is when I make the bed and laying in the sun is a favorte pastime!!! To keep him lean and muscular, I keep dry food in his dish all the time, he only eats when he's hungrey and he gets a can of food once a week as a special treat! No people food for this kitty! Also, since I got him at 6 weeks, I have given him a bath once a month and he simply love them! It keeps his creamy coat neat, shinny and the hairball factor down to a minimum...

Answer by Nancy Tennier
Submitted on 2/4/2007
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I can't believe all the attributes of this Flame point Siamese. I have had many Siamese over the years but I find the flame point to be extraordinary. It is almost a breed unto its own. I have an 11 month old unaltered male, I bought him in July/06 & my female blue point had a litter of kittens in January/07. Surprise to me, I didn't know she had been in heat. Sadly there are no flame point kittens, they are blue & lilac. My Flame is the most loving father, he cleans the kittens & sleeps with them. This makes him all the more precious to me. I have never fallen in love with a cat like I did him. He is very aggressive with our neutered male blue point, sadly, I think I will have him fixed as the fights are really troublesome. It is wonderful to read all of your comments on this wonderful breed of cat.

Answer by HOLH
Submitted on 3/21/2007
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I was only familiar with the seal point and lilac point siamese until last year when I adopted a Flame point siamese (applehead) from Siamese Rescue-Texas. He is absolutely gorgeous and a big boy at over 14 1bs. His nose and pads are all pink. Everyone who sees him says that is the most beautiful cat. He is super smart and loves my 3 year old son. He follows me around and I call him "The White Shadow" as he seemingly appears like magic. My research says that there are two overall categories of siamese: The Wedge and The Traditional (applehead). Flame points are usally listed as color points. The Wedge is only shown at Cat Fancier shows. The Traditional has its own association with appropriate shows. Nonetheless, both types of siamese are highly intelligent and devoted. They need their human family. My boy is always on the scene! Love to the Meezer people of the world. Holly

Answer by Polywogger
Submitted on 3/28/2007
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I am curious about the flame point Siamese. My father in law has what I believe to be one of the first cats from the first litters of a flame point Siamese breed. yes I said one of the first. this beautiful boy is 19 going on 20 years old now. And just as magnificent as ever. cream coloured with nice red points. water blue eyes.. but as he is getting up there in his age.. his red is becoming more and more prodomonent. And he has the most amazing dark speckles on the skinny tip of his pink nose. He loves to yowl alot and is very affectionate. here is a link to his picture.. the name..Rusty :) http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/Polywogger/DCP_1073.jpg <a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/Polywogger/DCP_1073.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket"></a>

Answer by The Cat Lady
Submitted on 3/29/2007
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The flame point Siamese is the greatest cat in the world. I found my Bailey at a breeder. She had no hair on her front legs, was covered with fleas, had an eye infection, an ear infection and was coughing and sneezing blood. I grabbed her as she was trying to escape. She lay her head in my hand an looked up at me with the bluest eyes I have ever seen. Her gaze seemed to say, 'If you leave me hear I will die.' I took her to the vet and we fought for 2 weeks to save her. Thank God we did. She hiked with me, camped out and was my protector and best friend. She learned to walk on a leash and when off leash heeled like a dog. My Bailey passed away 2 years ago at the age of 14. I am still crying for her. I miss her. Those of you that were lucky enough to get a flame point remember they are a precious gift.

Answer by caitie09
Submitted on 5/19/2007
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i just got a flame point siamese kitten and we named her caroline because, she cries so much and when my father sings the song "sweet caroline" she stops whining and purrs and goes to sleep,we got her a week ago and she is only 7 weeks old now and is a peanut, she loves to play,i think it is her favorite thing to do... but she has a problem of knowing what to bite and scratch and what not to...but we've been trying to teach her, and right know she is eating the keyboard! she has cream colored nose, ears and tail but the tail is also ringed with white! i would recommend her to annoyone tht loves kittens but she is in need of constant attention! yes she is a whiner, we've always had siamese cats but never heard of a flame point and mom didnt even believe the owner when she told us that it was a rare kind of siamese kitten. so im doing some re8search and ca,e across this webpage! hope you understood all that i was saying and enjoy your cat!

Answer by Sam M
Submitted on 5/30/2007
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I had what I called a red point Siamese (Because that is obviously what she was) back in 1986. At the time I made many inquires and was told that there was no such animal. Tai-Pan as she was named had very Siamese build, although not as extremely wedge shaped as many are now, yet she had large sphinx like ears and a wedge shaped head, and was fairly vocal. Loving with us she was vicious with most other creatures. She had bright orange ears and nose, cream paws fading to almost white on the body with a fairly well marked ring tail fading away toward the body. Body build was slight and Siamese in conformation and had the faintest of tabby markings on the legs only where they were creamy but not where the body was off-white. Eyes were uncrossed and bright blue. She was somewhat vocal, with a Siamese yowl, but normally quiet. At that time (mid-80's) I eventually found some vague references to "Red points" existing, but being refused "Siamese" status by the powers that determine such things. The best they would say about them was that they were "Pointed shorthairs." Within a few years I started noticing that there were gray tabby "pointed shorthairs" around and they seemed far more common than the red variety. By the 90's I was seeing more "Red points" and they seem to have attained some acceptance in the pedigreed community. Tai-pan (If she had lived and had had papers) would now be considered a true "Red Point Siamese." Interestingly: I found a NEW Tai-Pan in 1999 being handed away for free in a box in front of my local Wal-Mart! I snatched him up in a heartbeat. This after growing up is either some type of a mix, or perhaps what they now seem to be calling a cream point? I'm not sure. The new Tai-Pan is a large apple headed male with very bright orange ears and nose, blue eyes, dark creamy orange feet fading to a cream colored belly with a peachy orange back. Tail is strongly ringed as a tabby, and has tiger tabby creamy stripe makings on his legs fading into the solid cream of the body. His forehead has the distinctive tabby "M" mark on it. Other than having the Siamese points on him and the blue eyes, he is fairly unsiamese like. Not vocal at all, about all you can get out of him is a kind of a purry squeak when you pick him up. (He doesn't like being held) Other than that his behavior is more dog like than feline. He follows my son everywhere, and if he is not available, you will usually find him on the kids bed, or possibly sleeping near my wife or I. (He likes to be around someone if he can.) Tai-Pan is a bit fuzzier with softer fur than either a Siamese or a domestic tabby has -- he seems to be missing that hard outer coat. He is the best looking cat I have ever seen. He begs for food like a dog. Since these type of cats seem to be becoming more common, the world will hopefully become a better place for it.

Answer by cat lover
Submitted on 7/15/2007
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Flame Points are the absolute best cat I've ever had....I adopted a 1 year old flame point about 23 years ago, fell totally in love with him...unique personality, almost like a dog without having a dog....very smart, intellegent and loyal...he was a real cuddler and his motor pretty much never stopped, he purred non stop !!!! He was wonderful with the kids (and other animals) but was pretty daft for some reason in the hunting department - he had more fun chasing dragonflies !! I had him for almost 20 years and I was heartbroken when I had to have him put down due to illness....I finally managed to find and adopt my 2nd flame point and I love him just as much....his demeanor is much the same as my last guy but I'll have to see over the next few months his full personality...I can tell already that he's gonna be quite the cuddler and talker..... and it's only been 4 days....he's still determining his pecking order with my other 2 guys, a choc point and siamese cross (as well as the dog !!!)....I don't understand how the original owner (and the other individual who adopted him before me) could ever have given him up !!!....best of luck with your flame point, I'm sure you'll enjoy

Answer by Nimbrethil
Submitted on 7/16/2007
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I picked up a kitten listed as a flamepoint Siamese at our local shelter a week ago, and did some research on the breed, as I've never seen a Siamese with that coloration. What I found is: They are not true Siamese cats. Basically, a purebred Siamese cat comes in only four point colors: blue, seal, lilac, and chocolate, though it may come in either the traditional or contemporary body style. A purebred cat that looks like a Siamese but has points in other colors than the above four is what's been labeled as a "Colorpoint Shorthair." I'm not too clear on the details of the breeding, but the purpose I believe was to createa Siamese cat with other available points colors. So, no, it's not a 'true' Siamese in the strictest sense, though it has been classified as its own breed now and is often considered to BE a Siamese cat. Also, many breeders who work with Colorpoints also tend to work with Siamese as well. Obviously a cat can 'look' like either a Siamese or a Colorpoint, but actually be a hybrid that favors its Siamese or Colorpoint parent. This will be the case with nearly ALL shelter adoptees. FYI "domestic shorthair" is the technical term used to refer to cats of mixed breeding. By referring it as such your vet was acknowledging the cat's unknown but certain mixed-breed heritage AND its colors.

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Question by Thomas
Submitted on 11/23/2003
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They call me a flame point siamese cat. But my new owner, who just adopted me, is not sure what that means. I am a light cream/white colored cat with points that are a fire red/brown color and I have very blue eyes. Can someone please explain what I am to my new owner?? Your help would be greatly appreciated. Thomas

Answer by PW
Submitted on 12/9/2003
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I have one of these cats I found as a stray. I thought he was Siamese, but I've been told by a breeder that he's a mix. My vet listed him as a "flame point domestic shorthair." The colors you describe sound like a flame-point, though without a pedigree, you can't know if your cat is fully Siamese or a mix. Hope that helps!

Answer by Kim
Submitted on 1/7/2004
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I have two of these. I was also told they were flame point siamese. One has the narrow nose and blue eyes with the red coloring. the other looks like a domestic house cat (shorter body) but with the same coloring. I am just as curious..

Answer by Frankie
Submitted on 1/10/2004
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I am at the Kauai (Hawaii) Humane Society and just been adopted by a nice couple whose sons gave me to them for Christmas. Please tell my adopted parents what sort of behavior and manners they should expect from me and, most importantly, what I really like to eat and do with my claws!!

Answer by sam
Submitted on 2/11/2004
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snowball is a flame point and your cat sounds just like him they have red on there nose ears tail and feet and there bodys cream so it sound like you have a flame point to me good luck there grat cats for kid to snowball is my 3 year olds cat and hes never heart here no matter what she has dune to him. enjoy your cat

Answer by Buddy's dad
Submitted on 2/15/2004
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I rescued Buddy at a shelter and had never heard of a flame point...he is my 3rd cat, in 20 years, and the best personality of all. He's affectionate, but not needy, funny, bad, and beautiful. When he looks at me with those big blue ( crossed!) eyes, I melt. I got him a denim blue baseball cap which he looks so cute in that it makes me weak..but he pulls it off in 30 seconds. Likes to scratch rugs and furniture a little too much..but loves to be in the same room as me..I definitely give two thumbs up for this breed.

Answer by Ron J
Submitted on 3/1/2004
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I have a female flame point (Betty) she is cream colored with light orange -red markings with just a hint of stripe in her tail. I bred her twice with a charcoal lynx point. 6 babies the first time, five the second ...in both litters she had female lynx points and male flame points. The breeder I bought her from said male flame points are rare.

Answer by Petra
Submitted on 3/16/2004
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I have a flame point I took in as a stray who the vet calls "Domestic Short Hair." A local breeder also told me he was a mix, not true Siamese. Nevertheless he is a beauty with a ringed tail and light brushing of orange on his face and back in addition to his orange ears. It surprises me that there is not more information out there about this color combination in domestic short haired cats!

Answer by Pawpa
Submitted on 3/23/2004
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I have one of these I adopted from a shelter, and she is fantastic! Adopted at about five years old, took about four months to bond with me, now we are inseparable. Currently I am on a business trip, and am told by my roommate that she occasionally wakes up and walks around the house howling for me! How sad!! She is full of personality and dignity but not recommended unless you like a cat to talk a lot!

Answer by Angel's mom
Submitted on 3/25/2004
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We just found out the cat we rescued from behind a business is a Flame Point mix according to our vet. Very sweet disposition. Very gentle with our kids. We have 3 other cats , she gets along well with all of them including our dogs. Whoever dumped her don't know what they are missing.

Answer by CBHW
Submitted on 3/26/2004
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Yep, you have a true siamese! Flames are blue eyed, lovable kitties who may be "apple headed" or long nosed depending upon their ancestry! Enjoy their unique personalities....mine are lovers AND hunters....mice, ducklings, birds, and even a bat!

Answer by Toby's Mom
Submitted on 3/31/2004
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I just adopted a flame-point from the animal shelter. I also have what may or may not be a snowshoe (seal point/American bi-color mix). Toby, my new boy, is so loving and gentle I really thought he was an older cat. My vet informed me that he's probably only about a year old, possibly younger! Whether or not yours is "pure", I'm sure you'll be purrrrfectly happy, as we are!

Answer by Dom
Submitted on 4/7/2004
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I have never heard of so many people having Flame point siamese cats! I have one as well, his name is Skiddy, we also have a Tabi and siamese mix, his name is whiskers, but we're not to sure what kind of siamese he is. They both talk a lot, if they want something you know about it. Skiddy is definately a cuddler, and its all the time, if it's comfy and warm he's there. He's 10 years old this year, and i call him my little grandpa. But he's still playful as every...i've realized over the years that he gets in moods that all he wants to do is play, and then he can sleep for hours on end. It sounds like you have a flame point alright!! I hope you enjoy your cat!

Answer by Debbie
Submitted on 4/13/2004
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Just came from the vet who told me I had a long haired (yes long), flame-point siamese with blue (crossed) eyes. I'd never heard of this so I'm glad to find this site. They also said the spots on his nose were common to the breed. Snowball is whiney, loving to kids and dogs and a prolific hunter.

Answer by Diana
Submitted on 4/14/2004
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Wow! I never knew there would be so many people asking the same questions! I just adopted a 1/2 flamepoint Siamese from a shelter and he is beautiful! Although he doesn't have the exotic long triangle head of a Siamese, his markings are amazing, his eyes are deep blue and his face is just literally enchanting ... which is why he is named Finwe after Tolkien'sElf King. Here is a link to his pic in the shelter: http://www.gorbzilla.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=895 go look. He is amazing!

Answer by wayne
Submitted on 4/17/2004
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I have 4 red/flame-point Siamese cats. Two are of a general type, that is with a cream-colored body with pink to orange ears, and tail. One I adopted last year is a long-furred cat who just recently is beginning to show his red colors and his coat is a silvery white. Also, I have just adopted another kitten from our local shelter also with silvery white fur. All of them have blue eyes, and are not prone to talk much. However, they are all great pets, and I would recommend a red/flame point Siamese to any cat person.

Answer by meghan
Submitted on 5/14/2004
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I just got a flame point siamese kitten; she's about four months old and just a sweetheart.Her ears are a light amber color,her tail is amber and white ringed,a little orange face mask and the cutest light blue crossed eyes. She was long haired when we got her but I'm teasing my mom by saying that she'll be short haired.HEHEHE

Answer by Jean
Submitted on 5/15/2004
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I have two beautiful flamepoint siamese cats, and I can tell you from experience, they are the best tempered and the most loving. My Merlot is a "hugger cat" and the most loveable cat I have ever known. I adopted him from the humane society, and he is wonderful with everyone and any cat. I also have Bojey (Bojangles)who I also adopted from the humane society. He is a little more reserved than Merlot, but just as loving once he knows you. Both are lap cats and not much for talking. They are by far the best cat I have ever had in my 45 years!!! You will never find a more sweet cat!! Congrats!!!

Answer by B&B's Slave
Submitted on 6/3/2004
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I also adopted 2 long-haired flame point Siamese cats from a shelter - brothers, one I named "Buddy" cause he's always right by my side and very talkative. "Buster" is bigger than Buddy, but both are the most gentle cats I have ever had. Since they're only a year old, they're still very playful and enjoy toe-biting at 2 am. Buddy loves the small catnip mice toys and I'm constantly having to dig them out from under the furniture where he's batted them. I also have a friend who has 3 of them, all males and all short-haired with skinny tails. I had Siamese cats before - very high-strung and prone to erowing in the middle of the night. These guys are so different!

Answer by LV
Submitted on 6/9/2004
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Hi - I have had my Flame point kitty for over 11 years and I found him at the Humane Society, so I figure he is about 13 years old. He is my mellow biggie boy, at 14 lbs. He has outlived 2 torti mix girlfriends and is still going strong. He is a talker, & purrer when he is snuggled up in bed and you rub his tummy. He has a wonderful disposition and I wish he could have sired at least 1 litter so I could have a few more like him, but he came fixed. If anyone in Arizona has a flame point they need to adopt out, let me know!

Answer by Steph
Submitted on 6/11/2004
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I just left Animal Control in Mesa, AZ and take "parental custody" of a 2 1/2 month old flamepoint (light cream with light velvety brown color points) tomorrow. We started looking for a kitten back in January, and this is the first one who really tugged at my heartstrings. All the other kittens I had found dug the claws in as soon as you picked them up, but Fang (as I think I will name her) just snuggled in my arms and went to sleep. Can't wait to see how she grows up.

Answer by PW
Submitted on 6/18/2004
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My flame point boy, Rio, is just a year old now. He has gotten to be about 13 pounds, and quite handsome! He LOVES tuna treats and his toys, and will meow at the "toy drawer" when he wants to play (which is often). He and my 3 year old Bengal boy often have wrestling matches, then Rio will want to curl up in my lap for a snooze. His funny quirk is that he "rearranges" things by moving them around the house- shoes, boxes, his food dishes and anything else he can carry or shove. LOL! He is an all-around excellent companion cat. The one thing we are working on is that he is VERY shy around strangers.

Answer by LV
Submitted on 6/20/2004
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That is interesting, I just figured they were born that way. Don't these cats have a wonderful way about them? My Seger is a bit shy around others, but it takes him an hour or so and then he'll be checking everyone out. He is so mellow, likes to find a sunny spot, but then sometimes in the evening he will rip from one end of the house to the other. I'm still looking for a friend for him.

Answer by utmargarita
Submitted on 6/22/2004
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LV: Just out of curiosity I checked Petfinder.com for flame points that are available for adoption in Arizona now (I noticed you wrote that you live in Arizona in an earlier post). There is a rescue group called AJ's Best Friends in the Apache Junction/Phoenix area. They have two flame point males that are beautiful: Kovu and Yukio. You can see photos of them at http://www.ajbf.org/petlist.html Good luck finding a flame-point kitty!

Answer by poohta
Submitted on 6/28/2004
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i lost my best friend 2 years ago next month and i am still so heartbroken i wonder if my pain will ever stop..shes a 4yr old siamese mix with a bandit mask & a bent-crooked tail.if you know anyone in.the.phx.area with a cat.like that.please.write me @poohta@webtv.nettheres.a.generous reward

Answer by luminous_ladie
Submitted on 7/14/2004
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I really enjoyed reading your stories, I am a breeder and in my first litter we had a flame point we called him blizzard, he had us all totally in love with him,We did end up selling him and it broke our hearts to see him go,But we just had a new litter and another blizzard has been produced there is no way we are letting this little guy go,There is just something special about the flame points:)

Answer by Kimmi
Submitted on 7/20/2004
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Ive got a flame point Siamese also. I found him as a stray about 6 months ago. he is very lovable. He is a little bit whiny, but i could not ask for a better cat. My vet told me what he was. I had no idea.

Answer by Jafafa Hots
Submitted on 8/7/2004
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Rescued a feral flame point kitten the other day, about 6 weeks old. Pretty wild, but the local rescue people have him/her now and they feel it's going to be able to be rehabilitated. I was worried about that because its so beautiful.

Answer by skirch
Submitted on 8/10/2004
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Kittykind in Manhatten has a flame-point mix right now, in fact this week I am fostering her. She is a big, sweet, mellow cat, who comes running if you call her, and who loves tummy rubs. She has a round face, clear blue eyes, and fluffy coat. She is sort of cream-colored with red ears and red tabby markings on her forehead and tail. She'll sometimes talk (softly) to you, but nothing like full siameses do. A really sweet girl. If you are looking for a sweet flame-point mix, go to the Union square Petco some weekend and meet her. (Her name was 'Princess Cream Puff,' but I've renamed her 'Machka.')

Answer by Angela
Submitted on 8/21/2004
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This is great to see so many people with the same kind of cat! I just "inherited" my 1/2 Domestic Shorthair 1/2 Flame Point Siamese cat named Angel. But I started calling her Puss Puss one day and it stuck! She is the sweetest...always wants attention and love. She doesn't meow at all....I've heard her meow 4 times since I've had her (over a week). But she's beautiful and I already love her to death! I love her bright blue eyes the most! Makes me smile!

Answer by Danelle
Submitted on 8/31/2004
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Hello i am looking for a male or female flamepoint i live in Indiana and i have a female, i have had her for a little over 2 months now and she is the best cat i have ever had she is so loveable and very cute if you are close to Indiana and have a flamepoint to sell please e-mail me at Danelle_wolf@yahoo.com

Answer by SIammin SIAMESE
Submitted on 9/6/2004
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i HAVE ONE pUREBRED SIAMESE KITTEN A FLAME POINT MEANS OR A POINT MEANS HOW THEY LOOK.

Answer by mattyj
Submitted on 9/12/2004
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I just adopted a 4 month old male flame point from a local shelter. It was so wondeful to read everyone's descriptions of their kitties. I've only had Oscar for a day now but I already love him. He is so cute and cuddly, always willing to be picked up and petted. He is very vocal but not too demanding. I think he is the best kitty ever.

Answer by Trish
Submitted on 10/5/2004
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I have a flame point domestic short hair that I found at an adoption center. She is a mix because she doesn't have that long siamese face but she is so cute. She has red ears, feet and tail and a little bit across her face as well. Her body and tail have light red stripes and the rest of her is white with beautiful turquoise eyes and a matching collar! They are the sweetest cats and very loving. Allie wants to be around me all of the time and loves to talk which is where the siamese comes out in her! Enjoy your own flame point cat!

Answer by Mo
Submitted on 11/5/2004
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I brought home a a stray tortie kitten, and before I got the chance to get her spayed, she had a litter with two flame points (one male and one female) both identical: pure white with blue eyes, red ears, tail, and noses..she also had 3 red tabbies in the same litter. As far as I know, there are no siamese toms wandering around here. Is it possible that my tortie is part siamese?