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Can a pitbull dog kill a wolverine of the size weight?

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Answer by Collin
Submitted on 1/26/2004
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This is the most ridiculous thing i have ever read. Are you all retarded? Lets further the stereotypes of pitbulls by matching them with wild animals for "game." the blood and circus games are over, fighting dogs is illegal and as an owner of an APBT I am disgusted with the stupidity involved with the breed especially with many of the people who buy them to look cool or bad-ass but don't take the time to train them which is why every major city pound is full of them. You are the problem. Why don't we start a new sport called idiot fighting? I wonder if the guy who wrote this question could take on the retard who's pitbull killed a 55 pound wolverine at a hen house (which I'm sure is true as gospel)?

Answer by edward
Submitted on 2/19/2004
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Ist off,pitbulls are like people some of them will run from a german shepard,all these dogs are not super fighters,as for the answer,this has been done before,with a wolverine and a pit,with side bets,back before it was illegal,a real game pit,will run into a lion,only to be bitten in half,or torn to shreds,but all being all,a bonafied pit,will come out on top,raccons,wolverines,everything has been tried,and this animal has come out on top,ive got 13 children,and i wont tolerate a people biter pitbull around my kids,this is where culling and breeding come into play,my kids would step on them,bite them,ect....only to be licked in the face,but they were ferocious toward other animals,its the idiots breeding that dont know how to,that make the breed people biters,from a guy thats been in these dogs 30 years.

Answer by John
Submitted on 2/22/2004
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It all depends. Sure, the Pit will fight, so will most any guard dog. The Wolverine scent will not deter it, and Pits regularly kill wolves in illegal fights. Single wolves have been known to kill Wolverines in the wild, but not always. Let's look at size, first. Most wolverines weight less than 35 lbs, and there has never been one weighing 55 lbs ever, so the Tatankah story is b/s. Most Pits weight much more than 35 lbs these days, the result of the idiotic breeders ruining this breed for the idiotic owners that have posted above. So, if we can get both weights the same, then what? The dog may be stronger, but the wolverine can fight on its back better than any dog can, and there is a good chance it would disembowel the dog with its claws. If the dog can get ahold of the Wolverines head, it probably wins. If the Wolverine can get on the dog's back, it probably wins. If I had to bet, I'd take the Wolverine. Unlike other wild animals that the Pit beats easily the Wolverine is a scavenger, so it is naturally combative, it wants to fight and beat other predators off of carcasses. It would fight a Pit just as hard as another Pit would, and if it happened naturally, let's say a Pit attacks a Wolverine over deer carcass, then there would be no way a Wolverine would quit or run or be frightened; unlike throwing it in a pit with 100 people cheering and a dog trying to rip its head off. Then we'd get a real answer. Lastly, if any of you "owners" would actually be stupid enough to want your dog to fight with ANY other animal, you should not be allowed to own dogs.

Answer by APBT Crazy
Submitted on 2/25/2004
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1st I don't know why anyone one would want to own a dog who fights. Having a dog with such a bad attitude is just stupid and asking for trouble. They should be taken in as a member of the family and not as a wild animal from a good blood line. But to the people who seem to know so much about the dog fighting business you don't know jack. As a teen I witnessed many illegal dog fights in Detroit. And for one there are many other breeds who can hold their own. The Chinese Chow Chow for one is a dog to be reckoned with. As a teen I seen more Chow Chows take down APBT. With such a think coat of fur an APBT has a hard time getting it's mouth around the neck. And as for Wolverines you're talking about a wild animal with a low center of gravity. The reason why an APBT is such a good fighting dog is because it's so low and can go straight for another dogs neck. The Wolverine is much lower to the ground and not to mention is large 5" and over claws. After each fight if the dog is a loser the owner doesn't keep these dogs or give them medical attention they just kill them. Because a fighting dog is only good for one thing.

Answer by mustelid_story
Submitted on 2/26/2004
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I cannot believe that this type of ignorance exsists. No, John, (2/22/2004), Wolverines are NOT classified as having scavenger status. And, (again), no, they are not confined to your 35lb. size limit. The wolverine has been discovered to weigh,(though not commonly), as much as 70lbs. Check out Google and look under Gulo Gulo, the scientific term for wolverine. Wolverines have notoriety for actually HUNTING small deer. For all of you "ecologists" and "zoologists" on this sight, for all the millions of dollars put into the study of the Wolverine, very little is actually known about them. For all you pit-bull owners here (who talk about this absurd fighting mentality like 5 year olds talk about the power rangers or dino-wars), get a life and grow up beyond your infantile story telling. Im sure if we could enter into the minds of both pit-bulls and wolverines, niether would give a rat's ass about who the "tougher" one was.

Answer by Glen
Submitted on 2/28/2004
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I doubt that even the biggest, toughest pit bull dog can overcome a healthy, average-size wolverine, let alone a large one that could way as much as 60lbs. I've seen film footage of a single wolverine fighting off three good-size timber wolves and overtaking their fresh kill. The strength wolverines possess is uncanny. I read an account of a wolverine that dragged its kill, which weighed about three times its own weight, more than a mile over rugged terrain. Though the jaws of pit bulls are very powerful, they have nothing over the bone-crushing jaws of wolverines that have been known to chew their way through chain-linked fences and the like. And don't forget their afore mentioned powerful limbs and claws. There's a book entitled "Demon of the North" about a man who raised and lived among wolverines in Northern Europe. (Some libraries carry it.) Any animal that size that can down an adult moose and rip its skull open to devour its brain, as the book attests to, is not to be trifled with by any domesticated dog or almost anything else.

Answer by John
Submitted on 2/28/2004
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Yep, a 70 lb wolverine. Tell me mustelid_story (2/26/2004), do you get all your animal facts from "TheBigZoo.com"? Your regurgitation of data from web sites created for 10 year olds doing show and tell projects is amazing. Read a White Paper, for Christ sakes! The Copeland study of 1996 (British Columbia)found the average weight of adult male wolverines to be 27 lbs and the 1988 study by Banci and Harstead (in Alaska, where the largest of the species is found) reported the average weight of adult males to be 31 lbs. If you really want to know something about this animal, go to http://www.predatorconservation.org/predator_info/Forest_Clearinghouse/Wolverine/buecking1998.htm It will also tell you that their primary food source is large mammal carrion, they are just not equipped for predation on large animals, unless they find an injured animal or can overtake one in the deep snow. Their home ranges are so large because they are constantly on the move looking for something to eat. It may be too much for your brain to process more than a 1 paragraph "fact sheet" created by a fat kid who knows as much about wolverines as you do, but please take the time to become well-read and stop making a fool out of yourself. For the answer to this question, exact same weight, both healthy, I'd take the wolverine, but not every time.

Answer by Czatan
Submitted on 3/9/2004
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As for pits killing wolverines... it has been done several times. In Japan a 90 pit out of Touri Kai kennels was recently rolled against a lion for the simple fact it was to dangerous and man aggressive to fight in the ring. The video goes for about 25-30 minutes... in the end both animals were put down. I own a dog out of him and I am not going to claim to have the gamest dog on the block but before he was imported to me he had been rolled twice before i received him (2xW). He was rolled against a Tosa Inu and a Bandog (1/2 Tosa & 1/2 Pit)... both of these dogs out weigh my my dog for he is only 72# and was not matched at weight. Although I do not condone dog fighting... I appreciate and respect what it has created and the kind of friend it has blessed me with. Ultimately... it is not if a pit of equal size and weight can kill a wolverine it is how bad he wants to win... its about survival for the wolverine for he does not want to fight if he does not have too... but a true game pit lives too [fight].JMO. Thanks.

Answer by FREE BIRD
Submitted on 3/12/2004
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I WILL TELL YOU THIS THERE IS NOWAY THAT A PIT COULD WIP A WOLVERINE.I ONCE READ A PRAYER THAT WENT SOMETHING LIKE THIS.READ THIS CAREFULLY AND REALLY THINK ABOUT IT. DEAR LORD, IT IS MY PRAYER AND MY REQEST THAT YOU GRANT GREATER UNDER STANDING TO THOSE WHO LOVE US AND THOSE WHO HATE US,THAT THEY WILL KNOW HOW LOYAL,BRAVE,AND LOVEING WE ARE.HELP THEM TO ACCEPT US AS A BREED IN WHOLE AND NOT LET THE FEW TRAGEDIES SHINE BRIGHTER THAN THE MANY GREAT TRAITS WE HAVE.AND THOSE WHO WOULD KILL ME,LET THEM KNOW I FORGIVE THEM EVEN THOW I DON'T UNDERSANT THERE HATERED,AND THOSE WHO BEAT ME LET THEM KNOW THAT I STILL LOVE THEM EVEN THOUGHT IT IS NOT HONORABLE WAY. THANK YOU FOR ALL THE STRONG TRAITS THAT YOU HAVE GIVEN TO ME AND MY BREED HELP THOSE TO KNOW THAT I STAND FOR COURAGE,STRENNGTH,LOYALTY,AND BRAVERY.AND AS MY MASTER ALREADY KNOWS LET THOSE WHO WOULD COME AGAINST MY FAMILY KNOW THAT I WOULD SURELY DIE DEFENDING THEIM. AND JUST ONE THING THAT I WOULD ASK LET MY MASTER KNOW THAT IF YOU SHOULD CALL ME AWAY I WILL WAIT PATIENTLY AT THE PEARLY GATES UNTIL THE ONE WHO CHOSE ME COMES HOME. AMEN

Answer by drama
Submitted on 3/14/2004
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for...if i could slap half of u people i would just for being stupid...if u had a 200 pound pit and a 200 pound wolverine buddy let me tell u u had a super dog and a record setting wolverine..ive seen dogs over 100 pounds but 200?..kiss my a ur full of it..same goes for the wolverine..2 sum1 said i got a blue brindel....if u think the kinda pit u have is the same color as its coat(color)an u need to get rid of it..the color matters absolutly none..makes no difference in a black one or a damn pink pitbull..3 some1 said sumthing about chow chows killing apbts..if thats the case u either saw a pit bred poorly or sick..a healthy "game" pitbull would tear a chow chow a new a even with all that hair they do go for the legs and all that ya know..especially the face..do chows have long hair on their muzles and eyes?lol..i dunno why du crap is causing an argument i do agree if a pit got ahold of a wolverine it would most likely b over wiith but if that wolverine got ahole of that pit it would b the same outcome...who cares tho!..livin where u prolly live..THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN!!!and the whole lock jaw thing..lmao..thanx i laughed an hour on that1.if ya think ur dog can lock its jaws u need help man...ima stop crackin down now tho...pitbulls as well as other breeds fought bulls and allother kinds of game..if a pitbull can go toe to toe with a wild boar that most other animals will not bekon with..i think it has a chance with a wolverine..every match just wont be the same...a boar has tusks longer than a wolverine i suppose and is alot bigger....same as a bull..even tho most of the time they were sent in numbers to bait these animals..yall ppl need to read up on ur breeds instead of asking dumb questions like these..causes too much drama..and if ya want to fight ur dog n wonderin how bad a** they are..i wanna see u get in a ring n fight for ur life first..just so u know ur makin the right decision for ur dog..seein as he cant make one for u!!!!xmoneexmafia@aol.com...hit me up wid any response i im into this typa isshhh

Answer by drama
Submitted on 3/14/2004
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oooh 1 more lol...about the presa thing lmao...i dunno where u came off with the whole i pits where like...considered obsolete because of presas....and they are not basicbred from them 2 dogs..if ya knew anythin about em u wouldnt b talkin like that..i dunno tooo much about em just rad a lil here n there pits r wut im into..if i am correct(hopefully) the presa canario from the canary islands is a dog of 7 different breeds....i just think ur lil kingpit* story was funny..i wanna know where sum of u get off talkin bout stuff u know damn well u know jack sh*t about!!!!!lock jaw lmao..im still laughing at that one..thats too funny u gott feel me..u know that idiot prolly thought he was bein cool puttin his 2 cents in..not knowing he aint even got 1 cent when it comes to the pit....only thing that has lock jaw man is u lol..ya sick go get help see a doctor...n while u there read up on the breed b4 u go runnin ur mouth lil kid.....i aint an expert i believe there r very fiew of them but i know damn well i know more about apbts in here than 90% of u....the history n all that..good stuff man read up on it its crazy did stuff.....i got 9 pitbulls myself and dont and wont fight em for ishhh..any1 in here wantin to brag about their dogs needs ta go sumwhere elsebecause that isnt ALL they are about..nowdays only thing u own them for is as a companion and for LEGAL sports....and nothing morexmoneexmafiax@aol.com..hit me up!

Answer by drama
Submitted on 3/14/2004
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geesh so much to say lol..for one...or should i say 10 the feroshiosness of ur dog doenst mean it will win agains a tamer tempered pit..the drive or game in the dog is what matters....oh and i lmao at the (rock) part of the rottwieler story..funny stuff..and 3 pitbulls on the biggest wolverine you got ..that wolverine is gonna end up in three pieces buddy..theres no way 1 wolverine is gonna take on 3 game bred pitbulls THAT ARE BRED FOR KILLING ANIMALS!...but hey if u believe in that so much..e pits u grab a wolverine and ill bet ya 10,000 bux...u gotta be the dumbest person besides mr lockjaw i know lmao...even 2 pitbulls..if one died mabye could happen..that wolverine is still going down...and i wanna see a pitbull run away or "cur" from a german shepard..that would be new to me...even the softest pitbulls i have seen..i havent seen not one back down from a dog fight ever!...no matter size of itself or the challenging dog..i got a question tho..how many of u think u know all about pitbulls..i know i dont im just wondering how many of u ppl do...any peeps that arent retarted or that only have "street knowledge" of the pitbull email me with any questions or answers..or if i been incorrect im me with the correct comments or answers..knowledge and learning never hurt any1!..or even to chat about em..hard to find ppl nowadays that know wut they r talking about..xmoneexmafiaxaol.com

Answer by sally
Submitted on 3/15/2004
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Back in the 19th century in England, there used to a regular practise called 'Badger baiting'. They would put a Pit up against a Badger and bet on the outcome. The Badger would regularly win the first one or two fights (killing the dog) before exhaustion and wounds inflicted in prevcous battles would mean thre Badger would finally be defeated. A Wolverine has the same weapons as a Badger(strength, stamina,very sharp claws and teeth, and a natural wild instinct)It is also much bigger and stronger than a Badger. Although I do not condone animal fighting of any kind, from a purely scientific point of view, how could a Pit win?. There has been documented evidence of Wolverines driving Cougars, and even Bears from kills. Pitbulls are very stong animals and very dangerous, but if the question was 'Can a Pit beat a Cougar or a Bear', you would think very differently. It is purely about the Wolverines' weaponary. Mike Tyson would quickly kill me in a boxing ring, but if I had a gun, would the result be very different

Answer by sally
Submitted on 3/15/2004
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Back in the 19th century in England, there used to a regular practise called 'Badger baiting'. They would put a Pit up against a Badger and bet on the outcome. The Badger would regularly win the first one or two fights (killing the dog) before exhaustion and wounds inflicted in prevcous battles would mean thre Badger would finally be defeated. A Wolverine has the same weapons as a Badger(strength, stamina,very sharp claws and teeth, and a natural wild instinct)It is also much bigger and stronger than a Badger. Although I do not condone animal fighting of any kind, from a purely scientific point of view, how could a Pit win?. There has been documented evidence of Wolverines driving Cougars, and even Bears from kills. Pitbulls are very stong animals and very dangerous, but if the question was 'Can a Pit beat a Cougar or a Bear', you would think very differently. It is purely about the Wolverines' weaponary. Mike Tyson would quickly kill me in a boxing ring, but if I had a gun, would the result be very different

Answer by drama
Submitted on 3/17/2004
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here we go again...im glad at least rob sees the game bred pitbull for more than mr.chow chow lmao for 1..and for 2 as i said..sally....u never know how the fight would go..and just cuz i think its gonna go a certain way doesnt mean it will...but like i said i garuntee u...if my pitbull (75%jeep/25%redboy) a very very game and well performing dog got ahold of a wolverine by the face or neck...or even just a good mouthfull i garuntee he would shake that wolverine till its asshole fell out...but on the other hand i agree with sum ppl if that wolverine got ahold of my dog first it would b over with..so in the same sense the only way u can really judge how the fight would turn out is who got ahold of who and where first.....there is no way in hell if my male got ahold of that wolverine that it would walk away or be able to fight at the same time its gettin the dog sh*t shook out of it ....most likely if got by the head hed snap his neck..wouldnt take very long either...i havent seen a wolverine fight a dog or nun of that but common sense tells u its whoever gets ahold of whoever first...because u cant say that a 30 pound wolverine is stronger than a 70..80 pound "GAME" bred pitbull sweety..either way they r both tough so every1 wins..now sum1 at least come up with a decent question other than wut a pitbull can beat..email me so i dont gotta keep doin this posting bs...xmoneexmafiaxaol.com

Answer by lady luck
Submitted on 3/17/2004
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TO ALL OF YOU OUT THERE THAT SAY THAT PITBULLS WERE BRED TO FIGHT.I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION IF A PITBULL WAS BRED TO FIGHT THEN WHY ARE THEY SUCH LOVEING DOGS? IF YOU TRAIN A PIT TO FIGHT THEN YES THEY WILL FIGHT AND THEY WILL COME OUT ON TOP MOST OF THE TIME,BUT THERE IS NOWAY THAT A PIT CAN WIN AGAINST A WOLVERINE.I HAVE THREE PITS OF MY OWN AND THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL I WOULD FIGHT THEIM AGAINST ANYTHING.IT MAKES ME SICK TO READ ABOUT OR LISTEN TO PEOPLE TALK ABOUT HOW BAD ASS THEIR PITS ARE BECAUSE THEY FIGHT THEIM AND THEY ALWAYS WIN.I THINK THAT PEOPLE THAT FIGHT PITS SHOULD ALL BE PUNISHED THE WAY THAT YOU PUNISH THEIM WHEN YOU FIGHT THEIM.AND YES I KNOW THAT IF YOU PUT TWO PITS TOGETHER THEN THEY WILL FIGHT AND I KNOW THAT THEY WILL DO IT ON THEIR OWN FREE WILL BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT PUT THEIR PITS INTO A PIT JUST TO SEE WHICH DOG IS THE BEST.AND IF YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THATHAS TO FIGHT YOUR PIT JUST SO YOU CAN SAY YOU HAVE A GOOD DOG THEN YOU DON'T NEED THEIM.JUST REMEBER THAT PIT BULLS ARE MADE TO LOVE NOT FIGHT.SO REALLY THINK ABOUT IT AND BUILD UP THE NAME OF THE PIT AND DON'T RUN THEIM DOWN.

Answer by drama
Submitted on 3/17/2004
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oh yea i forgot...i just wanna add that a pitbull has strenght stamina endurance good wind and instinct,...and hopefully teeth lmao...and a bear is alot bigger than a pit a pit could shake his hardest and might not barely do anything to them..but if u knew pits they were boar,bear,bull baiting dogs...obviously they arent a joke...a wolverine is alot smaller and a pit is strong enough to whip it around..but a single pit and a bear no...yea ur lil wolverine might have drove that bear away..but do u think that bear really woulda lost?lol...a bear could just simply slap it and kill it..seeing as in it could snap a horses neck with one swat...it simple...if that bear wanted to he could sit on the lil fukker n mash it to death...let alone fitting over half of it in his mouth...ever seen bear teeth or a bears mouth?lol...anything going in there aint coming out.....same goes for pitbulls when size and weight are equally matched!ha!...oh and cougars again equally sized and weight "could" lose to a pitbull just like a pitbull could lose to it...ya never know ...y dun ya go try it and tell me how it works out for ya....go use mr.200pound pitbull and 200 pound wolverines animals lmao

Answer by Sally
Submitted on 3/18/2004
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Drama, I appreciate what you are saying, and certainly Pits are very strong and dangerous animals, but the Wolverine can keep the Pit at arms length with its claws. The Wolverine is generally regarded to be pound for pound the strongest animal alive, it also has the advantage of speed. A 35 to 40 pound Wolverine against an 80 pound Pit might be a tough one to call to be honest I think the damage inflicted on both animals would be horrific, they are both renowned for there bravery, and never backing down. The question asked was a 200 pound Wolverine against a 200 pound Pit. In that case the dog would lose every time. Drama, for all your admiration for the powerful Pit bull(which I agree is awesome) I know you would never put your dog in a ring with a Wolverine, cause if you did win or lose, you're dog would experience injuries that I wouldn't even wish on George W Bush, and believe me that is saying something.

Answer by John
Submitted on 3/21/2004
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The nature of the animal needs to be considered here, people. Game Pit Bulls will fight ANYTHING, claws, scent glands or other weapons will not keep 1 at bay. Wild animals are different. Why do you think a large male leopard will leave its kill because 1 Hyena shows up? Not because it can't win the fight, but it needs to hunt to live and doesn't want to get injured. Hunting/killing and fighting are different abilities. Wolverines survive because they are tough and willing to fight anything in order to keep the kill (they have found) and wolves, bears, lions sometimes back off from them. But they are not magical animals and are killed sometimes by bears, wolves, lions. All things being equal, the wolverine wins against just about everything, if the animals are the same size. But a 70lb Pit is just too big and strong for a 30-40 lb wolverine. It's no contest. Both at 30-40 lbs, I'd take the wolverine. Too strong, too many weapons for a Pit Bull to deal with. Sally, badgers do NOT kill pit bulls, even English Badgers, they are 2 small. Badgers are sometimes used as "warm up" animals for Pits in illegal fights in Canada. Maybe badgers killed Jack Russel's or Bedlington terriers, but no Pits, never. My Kerry Blue Terrier has brought home 4 adult Badgers in his life, grabbed their heads, shook them apart, and broke their necks or crushed their skulls. Face got scratched up and ears got torn, but that's about it. And a Kerry is tough, but he's no Pit Bull.

Answer by Sally
Submitted on 3/21/2004
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John. Point taken, perhaps it wasn't a Pit bull that the Badger had killed, it may have been another dog. The point is that Wolverines may not be 'magical' creatures, but they are pretty much pound for pound the toughest animal alive. A Leopard wouldn't run from one Hyena, but there is no such thing as one Hyena, once you see one of those ugly buggers coming towards you, you know that there are at least another ten coming right behind him. Leopards are solitary creatures, Hyena's hunt in packs,it is as simple as that. Wolverines are incredibly solitary animals, but if they are hungry, and a larger predator, or the Wolverine itself has just made a kill, then they will never back down. Wolves, Cougars, and even small Bears have been severely wounded, and even killed by this animal, that in itself is quite amazing. I am afraid that one day, some sick person will try to put a Wolverine in a ring with his dog, because his dog is good at chasing cats or Squirrels. If that happens and you are there, then do the dog a favour, pull it out of the ring.

Answer by robgilhan
Submitted on 3/23/2004
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Once again many of our friends here are just a bit mis-informed. As much as I may hate to admit it YES pitbulls were bred to fight!! and fight only. Contrary to popular belief the pit is one of the few breeds bred specifically for that purpose, yes many variations of the bulldog were bred and used in such sports as bull, bear and boar baiting and yes later on pits were also introduced to these sports and yes they may have thrived but this was just coincedental. Make no mistake about it pits were bred to fight other pits. Shepards were bred to tend sheep, Labs were bred to retrieve S*#t and pits were bred to fight, not to bite people not to kill kids. In fact pits that bit people were regarded as useless in the fighting arena

Answer by drama
Submitted on 3/23/2004
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haha my boy rob know his buisness the boi 100% correct on all that..i been trying to tell you people this..what good is a FIGHTING pitbull that cant be touched or wont allow their owners and other owners inthe ring...usually first sign of aggression they were shot or put down in other ways..thats why i say naturally the pitbull is friendly but on the other hand it wasnt a dog for people to own as pets..they were made for combat in the ring like it or not!so when i say the animals people are talking about fighting pitbulls arent built like them i mean they arent made for fighting..all they have are weapons for deffense the pitbull is all offense....and is and never will be obsolete...if you think your wolverine can beat a pitbull so easy try it with an american staffordshire pitbull lmao..wich get well over 100 pounds easy.....your wolverine is obsolete!

Answer by robgilhan
Submitted on 3/24/2004
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I've noticed alot of our friends here throwing the term "GAME" around when refering to our friend the pitbull which makes me wonder if they even know what it means for a bulldog to be given the distinction of even being considered "GAME" I believe I remember reading that someone wittnessed "GAME" bred pits regularly give up during matches. I believe that there are two ways to look at that scenario either our friend is not being honest or the pits in question were not "GAME" at all. Simply put "GAME" pits do not quit, will not quit, cannot quit, they would gadly die in battle before giving up. I'm sorry if it sounds harsh but like it or not this is what they were bred and born to do. Consider this Male lions fight for the right to mate, often times these fights end with little or no injuries to either combatant this is because neither one really wants to die they just want to mate, their instinct drives them to do this. This is natures way of ensuring that only the strongest most dominate genes get passed on to the next generation. But keep in mind that nature did not select the pitbull MAN DID !! And man bred these dogs for a very deliberate purpose. They wanted specific traits from various dogs that would result in the perfect fighting dog. Speed, endurance, agility, balance and above all the bulldogs tenacity and reputation for never quiting NO MATTER WHAT (GAMENESS) were all bred into the dog we all have come to know as the pitbull. I dont know what would happen if a wolverine and a pitbull ever hooked up. What I do know is that if a wolverine is even half as game as some of the dogs I"ve owned in the past one if not both animals would surely die.

Answer by lady luck
Submitted on 3/24/2004
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I HAVE BEEN READING EVERY THING THAT HAS BEEN WROTE ON HERE,AND IT SEAMS TO ME THAT THE SUBJECT HAS GONE FROM THE STUPID QUESTION TO FIGHTING DOGS.THEIR ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT DO FIGHT DOGS AND IF YOU ARE ONE OF THEIM THEN YOU WILL KNOW THAT I AM TALKING ABOUT YOU.YOU ARE WRONG FOR FIGHTING DOGS AND THEN YOU WOUNDER WHY PEOPLE HATE THE BREED SO MUCH. IT IS BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT FIGHT THEIR DOGS AND THEN GO AROUND BRAGGING ABOUT IT IF YOU PEOPLE SPENT AS MUCH TIME AND ENERY SPREADING THE GOOD ABOUT PITS AND STOP GOING AROUND TELLING PEOPLE HOW BAD ASS YOUR PIT IS BECAUSE YOU FIGHT IT THEN THERE WOULD MORE THAN LIKELY BE MORE PEOPLE THAT LOVE THE BREED INSTEAD OF HATE THEIM.SO BUILD UP THE NAME OF THE PIT AND STOP RUNNING THEIM DOWN.AND FOR ALL OF YOU PEOPLE THAT ARE WOUNDERING LADYLUCK AND WILDMAN ARE MARRIED.

Answer by Sally
Submitted on 3/26/2004
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I think that the Pit is probably one of the most scary and awesome creatures I have ever seen. I have also had experience of the solitary and infamous Wolverine. Now I don't really know who would win if they fought. To be honest i think it would depend on the animal at the time, and the place. I just think that you Pit bull owners should be aware that there is filmed footage of Wolverines driving three Wolves from a kill, and film footage of Wolverines beating off Mountain lions from their kills. So I just think that the Wolverine is just more streetwise than the Pit. They have more experience of stealth and basically the experience of the chase.The Pit wins on strength and sheer power, but the Wolvenine wins on pure hunting experience. Who would win. You decide.

Answer by LADY LUCK
Submitted on 3/28/2004
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I JUST READ THE LAST ENTRY BY GORIGA I REALLY DIDNT LIKE WHAT I READ.THAT IS A BUNCH OF BULLSHT.I HAVE THREE PITS FOR YOUR INFO AND MY KIDS ARE AROUND THEIM EVERY DAY.SO DONT GO TELLING ME THAT PITS ARE BAD TO BE AROUND KIDS.I DONT KNOW IF YOU HAVE EVER BEEN AROUND A PIT BUT IF NOT YOU NEED TO GIVE THEIM A CHANCE,AND IF YOU HAVE YOU MUST BEEN AROUND ONE THAT HAS BEEN TRAINED TO THAT.YOU CAN WALK UP IN MY YARD RIGHT NOW AND IF YOU WALKED UP TO MY PITS THEY WOULD JUST LICK YOU TO DEATH BUT THEY WOULD NOT BIT YOU.THE ONLY WAY THAT THEY WOULD EVEN TRY TO BIT YOU IS IF YOU WAS TRYING TO HURT ONE OF US OR ONE OF OUR KIDS.AND BY THE WAY IT IS PEOPLE LIKE YOU SPREDING SHT LIKE THAT THAT IS GIVEING THE PITBULL BREED THEIR BAD NAME.IF YOU HAVE ANY THING TO SAY TO ME YOU CAN SAY IT ON HERE OR E-MAIL ME MY E-MAIL ADDRESS IS IN MY COMMENT ABOVE .SAY WHAT EVER YOU WANT I REALLY DONT GIVE A SH*T,BECAUSE I WILL STAND UP FOR THE PITBULL BREED.

Answer by Timberwolf
Submitted on 4/5/2004
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First of all I would like to comment on the fact that most of you people are idiots, putting two animals in a pit to fight it out to the death is F--ing barbaric. Secondly, a pit bull, or any other dog for that matter is domesticated, which means deep down they will fight to protect themselves or their family, but they are DOMESTICATED!!!!! A wolverine on the other hand would consider anything it came across as either food or a date for the evening. So it would either shag your dogs brains out or have it as a snack. They have 5 inch claws, as well as teeth, a dogs claws are pretty much useless. They are ferocious, like one guy above said, beard cougars and wolves do their best to avoid confrontation with them. And need I mention the fact they eat caribou! I have yet to see a pit bull the same size as a caribou, if it can bring something that big down, a dog wouldn't pose too much of a treat pound for pound. I would rather go a round with a pit bull than with a wolverine, I may still be alive by the end of the pit bull fight, i know i would be dinner for a wolverine. Timberwolf.

Answer by Sally
Submitted on 4/5/2004
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I thought I would leave this debate for a while, and read some of your opinions and arguments. Great answer 'all your dogs are gay and my dog would kill all of your dogs at the same time'. The reason that dog fighting has existed for so many years is because human beings enjoy gambling, it doesn't really matter what it is, or what suffering is inflicted on the animal. Cockroach racing has also been a favourite pastime for many years in some countries, that isn't because the Cockroach can 'run like the wind', it is just so greedy people can make a fast buck'. A Wolverine would instantly know the Pit's vulnerable points, and avoid its strengths, that is the art of generations of hunting. It would only attack the dog with fast lethal jabs to the throat, the Pit would try to use its power to overwhelm the Wolverine, but would only get picked off again and again by the Wolverines sharp claws. Teeth to attack, claws to defend. Finally when the Pit suffers from exhaustion and loss of blood(through unimaginably horrific injuries), the Wolverine would jump in for the kill, and take its prize. The Wolverine would probably suffer injuries, but the suffering for the Dog would be terrible. Wolverines aren't that big, but they are lethal hunters, they hunt prey of a much larger size so they have to be patient and take they're kills slowly. Animals like Bears or Lions would probably kill the Pit pretty quickly due to size and strength, the Wolverine would kill slowly and cruelly and painfully, that is what it does because that is all it knows. I don't really know if a contest has ever taken place between a Pit and a Wolverine. To be honest I don't think any Pit owner would ever have the guts to try it. He is mans best friend, let him stay that way

Answer by timo pitts
Submitted on 4/6/2004
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a pitbull was bred for fighting animals and if the pitbull bit a human while the fight was being broke up from the fight the pitbull was put down.a pitbull would take on a wolverine any time.apitbull would take on a wolf any time.wild animal don't fight unless necessary in the wild for fear of injury and not being able to hunt. a pitbull will fight at any time any where,and will keep fighting until it wins.there is no way in hell a rottweiler could ever take on a pitbull.i have a 73lb pit that beat the hell out of a 140lb rott through no fault my own. i had my dog for a walk and some guy let his rott of the leash accidentally on purpose and needless to say he wont be doing that again very soon.

Answer by johntrout
Submitted on 4/11/2004
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Ok you stupid people out there! Before my head explodes here goes... You can bad mouth dog fighting and say how horrible is is but the facts are ( check ANYWHERE on the net for confirmation ) that the selective breeding for fighters are the reason the are brave, loyal, smart and good with children and are NOT AT ALL prone to undeserved aggresion toward humans ESPECIALLY children. Yes fighting is disgusting and evil but so is natural selection and if that what it takes to make the perfect dog so be it. I wouldn't fight my dog but having gameness in the genes is very desirable. And please before someone else posts anything READ A LITTLE FIRST!!! If I see the word 'lock jaw' one more time.... *BAM (my head explodes)

Answer by me again
Submitted on 4/13/2004
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yes, i see your point johntrout, and i agree with you. But after seeing for myself what these dogs will go through is truly amazing but i think its unfair to the dog. as the fights drag on both dogs get so wore out, ive seen dogs in the midst of battle, bloody, torn, and sometimes bones broke stop just to take a break. then the owners encourage the dogs to continue, and this is what amazes me, no matter how messed up or wore out they are, most will continue to fight for over an hour or more. yes these dogs love it, but to a point. they are pushed to limits i never imagined possible. i also know these people truly love there dogs and vice versa. something inside these dogs is special, that no other living creature has, because it was created by selective breeding by man, not natural selection. we've created an animal that will totally 100% disregard any danger or threat to itself, that my friend is not fair to the animal.

Answer by tigercats12
Submitted on 4/22/2004
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my god.. what is the deal? why are 95% of the people posting retarded? could a pit kill a wolverine? yes.. sure it is possible.. not probable but possible.. i would say out of 1000 equal size matches a pit could win maybe 1 or 2 times.. if it was lucky!!!! wolverines in many people opinion are the toughest animal on earth pound for pound.. and i would agree.. why do so many people post obvious lies here? also why do so many people post when they are clueless on the topic? and for the single pit vs a lion story, all i have to say is BS!!!!!! i work with exotic animal a single pit would last about 2 seconds with an adult lion.. it would simply be dinner for the lion.. true they used to pit dogs and big cats, but it was dogs plural!!!!! and for the idiot that said a presa was a pit mastiff mix.. get a clue man.. a pit masiff mix is a bandog(bandogge) and a true bandog is a pit neo mix(not a pit /tosa mix) my god people get a clue.. and to the few that actually made sense.. THANK YOU

Answer by YellowRockNail
Submitted on 4/22/2004
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I was in the woods once with a buddy. We were hunting with his pit bull. We had to wake up in the middle of the night from a terrible commotion going on outside the tent. My buddy and I went running outside the tent and the pitbull was getting reamed by a wolverine. The wolverine was tearing it to shreds, man. My buddy said "Dang! that Wolverine got some LOCKJAW!!!". Spinning from the pitbull's bloody carcass, the wolverine commenced with squirting us with a hellacious, odorous slime from his anal glands. My Friend passed out cold with that slime all in his hair and once he was horizontal, it started oozing up his nasal cavaties. The wolverine charged me, and I felt something warm in my britches as I proceeded to climb a tree. Luckily, out of the bushes bursted a Canary Dog, or Perro de Presa Canario, and he unleashed nine shades of hell upon the wolverine, killing it almost instantly. My Savior disappeared into the sunset. My friend, now conscious, blowing slime from his nose, Said "Man, I need a BEER!!".

Answer by Sally.
Submitted on 4/24/2004
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Tigercats. YOU ACTUALLY MAKE SENSE. That is a nice change considering some of the stories I have read, and the Jews comment is just anti-Semitic and ignorant. The only comment I can make to that person is, thank God you are too retarded to actually be dangerous. I am not Jewish or Roman or German, as it happens I am British, but any debate can be interesting as long as the arguments are well thought out, and make sense. The answer above about hunting, and the Wolverine killing the Pit may be true. The Wolverine is a Mustelid, and therefore part of the Skunk family. It does spray a nasty odour from its Anal Glands. It does generally live in cold climates, and is therefore always battling with Wolves and Mountain Lions for food. A single Wolf would very rarely attack a fully grown male Wolverine, and if it did, it would probably lose badly. As Tigercat said, no single Pit would ever be put up against a large cat, not even a Mountain Lion. I have read of three or four Pits fighting one Puma, at least one of the Dogs was killed, and the others were in a terrible state. I think the Puma was killed in the end, but whether that was by the Dogs, or whether it was shot by one of the Pit owners when they realized what a cruel and terrible mistake they had made, I don't know. Single Wolverines regularly drive Mountain Lions from their kills, that is fact. The Mountain Lion would win the fight more often than not, but not every time. Bears, Cougars and Wolves are tough competitors for the Wolverine to have to compete with in that landscape, but they do okay. That should tell its own story.

Answer by Nature Boy
Submitted on 4/30/2004
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The wolverine is built for tearing into frozen flesh and grinding bone with his teeth. They can dig 7 feet deep into frozen tundra to bury their kill. They travel up to 75 miles a day in snowy, frozen mountainous regions. When they hunt they do so by wearing their prey down with their relentless persuit. They will take down elk, moose and caribou. They will attack, kill and eat small bears. They will drive off any two timber wolves from their own kill, and bears and cougars will sometimes back down from the wolverine for fear of being badly mauled in a fight. Wolverines will climb to the top of any tree in the forest to raid the nest of large hawks for their eggs, and they will simply shrug off the frantic talon attacks of the adult hawks defending the nest as it were a fly attacking them. Wolverines have been known to chew off their own leg to escape a steel trap, and then continue on and live for years afterwards. They have 5 - 7 inch claws that cannot retract, claws that can shred any flesh, muscle, or grisle and make mince meat of it. The teeth of an adult male wolverine, (especiall the lower teeth), will make ANY pitbull envious, and the wolverine will fight on its back, inviting its enemy into a shredding mill of twenty irretractable claws. The wolverine puts its head close to the ground and shows its enormous teeth, and it has a powerful, muscular neck. The pitbull would be utterly confused as to how to attack this beast. The wolverine has an African counterpart, (I cannot recall the name), that has been documented to kill lions. The wolverine can weigh up to 60 lbs, though the adult males typically weight from 35 lbs. to 45 lbs. This animal is the most vicious, ferocious mamal on earth, bar none. It's primary source of food is to feed on the carion from the kills of wolves, bear, and cougar. Hence, they are built to not only instill fear into these huge predators, but to inflict savage wounds to them, and sometimes even kill them. They have excessively long, thick and wirey fur, making the bite of other predators a useless endeavor. The pitbull is bred to fight like a demon, but the wolverine IS a demon. Your pitbull has two chances of killing a wolverine. Slim, and none.

Answer by notsally
Submitted on 4/30/2004
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way, way up there somewhere, someone named sally says raccoons will kill dogs much larger then themselves.so i just wanted to say LMFAO, yeah right, ive seen just the opposite my 19 lb. jack russel killed a 21 lb. raccoon. how do i know it was 21 lbs. because i had to take the dead raccoon in for a rabies test. i didnt get to the fight in time to see how, but there was no blood what so ever on the raccoon. my dog had a few small puncture wounds on its throat and left front leg.i heard the whole thing and it lasted less then 1 min. and thank god it had no rabies, but my baby had to be quarantined for 2 weeks. i never had a raccoon, but my guess is if my baby can take one out, they aint much!!

Answer by notsally
Submitted on 5/5/2004
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first of all sally said, and i quote " raccoons have often fought and killed single dogs of a much larger size". That, sally is not a statement of opinion, that is a false statement. where are these so called facts you talk of? second, i am not a pitbull owner, and i really could care less how tuff or weak they are. and to this tigercats guy who says i am probably lying, look i respect allot you have said and i have not commented on anything,why? because i don't know much on the subject, and i would be lying if i did. i am a very real person who rarely lies, and when i do, its for very good reasons.this is just all speculations that are scientifically pointless, there for giving me no reason to lie. i do not get my thrills off lying to a bunch of people who waste there time on proving absolutely nothing. if i am "probably" lying, then i guess you "probably" wouldn't mind paying me back for my vet bills, right?

Answer by notsally
Submitted on 5/6/2004
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sally, you are right, i guess i did come off sounding pretty cocky.i apologize, but the fact is, it is not my opinion. this really did happen, and like i said fairly quickly too(less then 1 min). i honestly dont care what animal can take what animal. i just had a real experience that contradicted what i read on here. i have never voiced myself on these before and i realize i did it all wrong. i have learned a lesson here. but i assure you this really did take place, and my dog is no "tuff guy" either. by the way, thankfully it was not rabid!!!!maybe my baby (sammy) just got lucky, i dont know.once again, sorry for jumping in the way i did.

Answer by sally
Submitted on 5/6/2004
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Hey Notsally. Don't apologize, there is no need. I despise the idea of animals fighting as much as you do. I guess that this site gives people the chance to give their opinions and get passionate about something and debate an issue. I am sure that most of the people replying to this site wouldn't dream of getting involved in something as horrible as Dog fighting, or for that matter Wolverine fighting. What I will say is that your baby Sammy was one lucky Dog, because nine times out of ten he probably would have come unstuck. Please don't ever apologize for giving your opinions, because whether I or anyone else agree with you, It is what you believe, and what you know. That is all that matters

Answer by yerr_sister
Submitted on 5/7/2004
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now, hear me out all the way first. funny story but with a point: i'vegot a big black pit bull i rescued who was abandoned at a state park. the day i brought her home when she was 2 years old the only leash i had for her was the long shoelace i found at the park. She was easy to control at that time. When we walked up to the front door we were greeted by some of my 21 cats who came running, hissing and coming to attack, within 1 minute all 21 of them came out from under bushes and cars and the backyard wall and were charging the pit bull like a pride of lions, growling, hissing, and claws and teeth fully barred, 3 of the cats made it up onto the dog's back with their claws dug deep into her back and their teeth clenched down holding onto her ears and me and my new pit we ran off my property down the sidewalk until they stopped. We were BOTH scared. These cats were all street-fighting cats and ferals, some 22 lbs. and for the next few weeks all i had to do was make a hissing noise and the pit bull would run for cover. HOWEVER.......A FEW MONTHS LATER AFTER THE PIT BULL ADJUSTED TO HER NEW HOME AND BECAME TERRITORIAL THIS WAS NOT THE CASE and the next time the lead cat hissed, the pit bull really injured him and all the cats ran and that cat's face swell up like Jay Leno, and we all know that cat was lucky he escaped. We all know a pit can take a cat. But my point is this: If an animal is in its own territory it will take on any animal. Now she is 5 years old, 75 lbs+ and would kill any other animal that approached her (especially a dog no matter how big that dog was) on what she considers to be her territory, our house, our yard and our entire street. i don't know if a pit would win if the pit entered the wolverine's territory, but if the wolverine entered the pit's territory it would be a different story and there is no way that pit would run. AND if the wolverine was winning and all that was left was the pit's head and torso holding onto the wolverine, that pit would NOT let go and would keep fighting. i now own a very dangerous pit bull (not dangerous with people, but with other animals), she was never trained to attack anything or anyone and she grew up with all those 21 cats who she now lets walk behind us on our walks, but if she sees another dog around her territory she will kill it, doesn't matter the size and it wouldn't matter if it was a wolverine or a wolf. it is all about the territory and level of aggression, just like the cats when she was 2 and brand new to the house, they won her that day because they were territorial and aggressive (and in a pride of 21) and the pit was new to the scene, not yet her territory, and they caught her by surprise. pits and even small terriers will keep fight animals way bigger than themselves, the pit bull was bred to fight bulls and to fight and not let go even if all that's left of them is their head and half their torso ripped apart. it's like a lion and a tiger, the tiger is bigger and has relatively the same claws and teeth, but the lion is much more aggressive and that swings the fight into the lion's favor. still the wolverine's claws and teeth would rip right into the pit, but if the wolverine came into the pit's territory, the pit would bite that wolverine's head off before it got a chance to use its claws. And to wonder what if in a fight between a pit bull and a wild animal, it is not always a childish thing to wonder, because people who live out amongst wildlife this is a fair question and i am glad i have my pit bull to guard my 21 cats from coyotes, wolves, and whatever else would enter our yard at night. well, a mountain lion, perhaps that would be something different. And even though the cougars and such avoid the wolverine, even the scent of one, if the wolverine entered its territory or came around its young that might be a different story.

Answer by Neal
Submitted on 5/10/2004
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YerrSister, good story and all, even though i think its overexaggerated alot. The thing is, wild animals have territories that stretch anwhere between 5 square miles, to 500 square miles. wolves in particular cover great distances and are fiercly territorial, the major reason attacks on dogs by wolves is territory. the wolves see these pets even though it might be the pets domain, but its instinct is to kill and it does so. wolverines are the same way. there is no way any pit bull, tosa, am staff, or any kind of dog is going to beat a single wolverine or a single wolf in a fight. it doesnt matter where the pit is, because its territory is going to be inside a wild animals territory, and if it wasnt , then there would be no problem.

Answer by you people
Submitted on 5/11/2004
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being a wild animal DOES NOT give you a advantage in fighting,actually it is a disadvantage. Ever hear of the fight or flight response. wild animals will flee(even if they could win) from anything that poses a major threat,making them more vulnerable. this is not hard to understand. Animals in the wild are well rounded with ability's to survive, a pitbulls ability's were meant for one reason only. i don't know how else to explain this other then the pitbull was created to be "suicidal" making it do things other animals wouldn't even consider doing, and if it wasn't successful then we wouldn't even be having this discussion right now because there wouldn't be any proud pitbull owners. don't mistake are pride for ignorance. we know a great thing when we see it, you just havent seen it like we have, if you did, you would not deny this.if you do not want to accept our breed for what it is,then so be it, but please do not try to inform us about what are dogs are capable of. we are not trying to be cocky or better then other dog owners, we just recognize we have something special and love sharing our thoughts about it. to us the pitbull is the symbol of courage and loyalty.is that really that horrible?

Answer by dig420
Submitted on 5/12/2004
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Pits DO NOT have lockjaws, for pete'ssake just go do a little reading on the web. This isn't in dispute, it's not a theory, it's just an anatomical fact. Second, for Notsally, I'm having trouble believing the Coon story too. They're tough little bastards and Jacks are scrappy but they ain't tough. My Pit mix, Baby, got into a scrap with one right in my house that was owned by a guest and put several deep puncture wounds in it's neck in about 3 seconds. That's how long it took us to yank the Jack out of her mouth, so how could a jack stand up to something as ferocious as a coon if this bigger jack couldn't hang with Baby for even a couple seconds? No Pits can't kill Wolverines. They can't kill Lions, Tigers or Bears either, but they make damn good pets if you treat them right.

Answer by coons my ass
Submitted on 5/12/2004
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coons are not ferocious, they can be made into pets with a very easy to get permit,also they are scavengers almost 100% of the time they have no need to kill, so why would you think they would be killers?they defend themselves fairly well against house cats in my area, but they are in no way ferocious. a dog would not have much of a problem. how does your guest own your house? wouldn't that make them a little more then a guest. plus at first you said pit mix,then you changed it to a jack.come on man, lets start being honest.this notsally person sounds like they could be telling the truth, and his/her story sounds more realistic then yours. i live with coons all around me.they are the least of all problems you or your dog will have in the outdoors,other then the sneaky little bastards can open coolers when camping and take your food but a POODLE should keep them away, they have no urge for confrontation unless cornered. i see them almost every night, you do not fool me, in fact you are a fool to me.

Answer by robert (notsally)
Submitted on 5/13/2004
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thank you "coons my ass" although there is no need. you obviously have experience with these animals and know what i say is very possible, even if you don't know for sure my story is true. its funny you said that part about little debbies though because the raccoon had ripped open my garbage for some old dough nuts and thats when sammy(my baby) caught him. i didn't see the fight(only heard) but by the time i had shoes on and outside it was over. the raccoon was dead but one of its back legs was still kicking. there was not one drop of blood i could see, but sammy had a few punctures on her throat area and one leg.sammys tail was wagging very excitedly and wanted to re-kill it several times. it is my belief that it was not much of a challenge.but maybe it was luck too,only sammy knows.

Answer by doesn't matter
Submitted on 5/16/2004
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i don't even know why i'm taking the time to respond to you idiots, but here's my 2 cents. wolverines have been known to drive bears, wolves, cougars, etc. from kills but what does that really say about their fighting ability? not much since hunting dogs routinely tree mountain lions, black bears, etc. what you have to realize is that wolverines, although strong and feisty, rely heavily on threat displays (ie. baring teeth, growling). do a google search and you will see that wolverines are commonly killed by wolves, bears, and mountain lions (not vice-versa). these other predators mar relinquish their kills to a wolverine, but it does not mean that they cannot beat the wolverine. they do this because any injury caused by fighting the wolverine may render them unable to hunt future prey. the wolverine, being a poor hunter and scavenger, will sometimes test larger predators for prey to avoid starvation. they do this out of necessity. a wolverine killing a bear, wolf, or cougar? please! many stories of wolverine aggression have been largely exaggerated to say the least. when confronted by large predators, most wolverines will simply run away or climb a tree. that is a fact. you a-holes should do a little more research before posting your thoughtless comments. most wild animals rely on threat displays to solve quarrels. little, if any, fighting actually occurs. wild animals (wolverines included) are not truly game. have any of you seen a real pit fight? they are eerily quiet. this is because, through centuries of selective breeding, the pit has done away with useless threat displays (ie. growling, baring teeth, raising the hairs on its back). threatening displays do not intimidate it whatsoever. this is an animal that loves to actually fight and will do so until either it or its opponent is killed. wolverines may be better hunters than pits, but hunting and fighting are two different things. a pro weightlifter may be able to bench-press 550 lbs while a pro prizefighter might only press 225 lbs. but in a fight, i'll bet on the boxer every time. oh yeah, there are many documented cases of average sized pits totally destroying wolves in staged fights. this is because the wolf is built for hunting, not fighting. it has a slight build for endurance to run down prey. it hunts in packs. it's jaws, while strong, do not possess nearly as much crushing power as a pits. this is why wolves rely on threat displays when threatened by other predators. i hate to bust you wolverine cheerleader's bubbles but there have been staged fights between pits and wolverines of equal weights and the pits come out on top. forget about that 5" claw BS. look at it this way. cape buffalo and hippos have been known to kill lions. hippos have also been known to bite crocs in half. don't believe me? do a web search and you'll find dozens of sites confirming this. remember, wolf vs wolverine = dead wolverine. wolf vs pitbull = dead wolf. again, if you doubt me then do a web search, read a book, or ask someone who really knows.

Answer by MARCUS
Submitted on 5/25/2004
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YO WASSAP. I DONT KNOW ABOUT PITBULLS BUT I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT A DOG CALLED THE CAUCASIAN OVCHARKA CAN AND WILL KILL ANY WOLVERINE AND PROBABLY ANY OTHER PIT I KNOW THIS BEACUASE MY DOG HAS KILLED A WOLVERINE.ALTHOUGH I WOULD NEVER FIGHT MY DOG. I DONT CARE IF YOU HAVE A DOGO ARGENTINO, AMERICAN BULLDOG, BANDOG,APBT,AMSTAFF,BOERBOEL,PRESA CANARIO,CANE CORSO,ROTT,CHOW CHOW,OR A FILA. NO DOG MATCHES THE CAUCASIAN OCCHARKA. IT IS THE ULTIMATE ATTACK/GUARDIAN/PROTECTION/FIGHTING DOG. THIS BREED CAN TAKE ANY BREED OF DOG. AND IT HAS MORE GAME THAN ANY PITBULL TERRIER. THEY REQUIRE NO TRAINING WHATSO EVER. CAUCASIANS HAVE BEEN KNOW TO ATTACK BUSES BECAUSE THEY SEE THEM AS THREATS. I LIKE ON A 60ACRE FARM IN WASHINGTON STATE AND ABOUT 2 YEARS AGO ONE NIGHT I HERD MY HORSES PANIKING AND KICKING THERE STALLS. IT WAS LATE AT NIGHT SO I WENT OUT TO THE BARN WITH MY DOG AND SHOTGUN EVEN THOUGH MY DOG IS MUCH BETTER PROTECTION. AS WE ENTERED THE BARN ON THIS COLD NIGHT I NOTICED THAT 3 OF MY BARN CATS, WHICH I USE TO CATCH AND EAT THE MICE, HAD BEEN KILLED. MY DOG ZEEK WAS BARKING VIOLENTLY AND IMMEDIATLY LEFT MY SIDE AND RAN INTO THE DARK CORNER OF THE BARN.AS I SHUN MY FLASHLIGHT ON THE AREA I WITNESSED MY DOG IN A FIGHT WITH A WOLVERINE. AFTER ABOUT 5 MINUTES ZEEK WALKED FROM THE FIGHT WITH THE WOLVERINE KILLED ALTHOUGH HE SUSTAINED SOME WOUNDS. THE NEXT DAY HE WENT TO GET CHECKED FOR RABBIES AND RECEIVED 12 STICHES. HE WAS 11 MONTHS OLD THEN AND IS NOW 3 YEARS AND STRONGER THAN EVER. SO THOSE WHO SAY A PIT CAN DEFEAT AQ WOLVERINE , I DUNNO BUT I KNOE A CAUCASIAN OVCHARKA CAN BECAUSE IVE WITNESSED IT. OO......... AND ANY 1 RETARDED ENOUGH TO BELIVE THAT A PITBULL HAS LOCKING JAWS MIGHT AS WELL SCREW THEMSELVES BECAUSE SCIENTIFIC STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT NO DOG HAS ANY LOCKING MECHNISM. TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE CAUCASIAN OVCHARKA VISIT http://www.thunderhawk.us/co6.htm WHICK IS MY BREEDERS WEBSITE.

Answer by macker
Submitted on 5/28/2004
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Deal with me about what? im just giving facts. I would never willingly fight my dog, i see no point n fighting my dogo. i appreciate the abillities of all dogs and some are better at things then others. Pits were originally hunting dogs and thats great, but when they bred dogos it was to make a better hunter then anything prior. i dont care who is better in a pit all i know is that my dog was good enough to take a jag alone during a hunt and it wasnt on purpose the jag was just there we werent trying to hunt jag we were after boar and my dog was the quickest and lunged at the bushes, next thing i see is my dog with the jags neck in his mouth while the jag was clawing at his sides and tearing him up, eventually my dog toar up the jags neck with various shakes. And then came back to me completely bloody and licked my hand as if nothng had happened my dog duke is about 130 pounds of muscle, and was severely injured put still took the jag, so whats wrong with that?this is what dogos are currently bred for in south america. i dont know what the big deal is. Pits are excellent dogs but i doubt they can do something like that, pound for pound they probably are stronger but we dont live in a pound for pound world. a pit just wouldnt be able to do this , they dont have the necessary size or power to do it. pits are cool, im from NY and ive owned pits, but in a hunt id rather go with my dogo anytime. Remember dogos are a mix of many breeds including the cordoba fighter, dogue de bordeux, bull terrier among many more so dont tell me they arent a game dog or that some overgrown collie can take it or that their not bred for hunting, just look them up on any website preferably not an american kennel website cause those dogos are usually very watered down and then you can argue and call me a liar if you want.

Answer by Sally.
Submitted on 6/2/2004
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Guys, I have been reading your opinions for a while. I gave my thoughts earlier on and although I may have disagreed with some of the opinions that I have read, at least fo the most part I did respect them. The wild animal will normally beat the 'domesticated' fighter. Let me tell you why, when Lennox Lewis beat Mike Tyson, he beat him by using his size and weight and just jabbing him out of the fight. Lewis gave Tyson a hiding not because he is a better boxer or because he is more ferrocious, It was just because he used his own weopens agaist a smaller man, and realised that if he played it smart then how could he lose?. Tyson was more dangerous but Lewis was smarter. The Pitbulls instinct is to go for the fight, but the Wolverine is being personnel, he just goes for the kill. It doesn't kill animals to be cruel or nasty, it kills to eat. The Wolverine will out jab the Pit, and eventully win. I think 7 times out of 10 the Wolverine would win, 3 times out of ten I would give it to the Pit, just like Tyson against Lewis

Answer by macker
Submitted on 6/8/2004
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What a fag!!!!! seriously bro you are gay arent't you. I haven't been on thjis forum in over a week....so buddy im sorry to tell you that you've been arguing with one of your friends OR more likely with one of your other personalities. What a loser, i dont have time to be on this thing all day...unlike you i have a job and a life. i suggest you try to at least find a job. I dont care if you believe me about my dog or what he did or can do, because if a pit cant do it, you wont belive it's possible you low life retard. Get over it and find something else to do. this forum is to answer and ask . Go suck butch cock you loser and stop bquestions about dogs not to go under peoples names and type like some kind of retard you jerkoffeing so gay you homo.

Answer by Joe
Submitted on 6/17/2004
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A wild 40 pound wolverine would utterly destroy a pit bull. The wolverine is : a. much stronger b. much faster c. bigger teeth d. 6 inch claws e. a world class grappler f. A world class biter g. a world class slicer h. the best endurance of any animal on this planet ( the wolverine has a home range of 500 miles, and can travel 100 miles non stop.) THEY LIVE AT THE TOP OF 10,000 foot MOUNTAINS ON BARE TUNDRA IN THE MIDDLE OF WINTER The Pit bull would not even knew what hit it. In all likely hood, the pit bull would have it's eyes seriously clawed and it's neck snapped by the wolverine within seconds. If the pit managed to get the wolverine on it's back, the wolverine also has serious moves from that position as well. Oh, and anyone who says they have seen a pit bul fight a "wolf" is full of it. A fair matchup would be a wild grey wolf (not some hicks inbred one" and a pit bull. Pit bull dies there too.

Answer by person
Submitted on 6/20/2004
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I don't know where you people get this crap. You need to research your information. Bears don't even like to get into it with wolverines. Wolves have two inch teeth that interlock so they can old on and take down a moose. Lockjaw is a myth. Pits just have strength and determination. Wolves have stronger jaws and can bite through a moose femur in six bites. Do you know what a presa canario is? It looks like a huge pit. Anyway a bear hunter had two of them pursuing a bear. They crossed over into wolf country(mistake) one of the wolves attacked the dog. When the hunter got to him the wolf was gone. The dogs nose and tongue were bitten off a inch or so from the dogs eyes. The dogs lower jaw had been ripped off. The dogs was still breathing and choking on it's blood so the hunter shot it. Wolves and wolverines are wild animals they hunt and fight everyday. By the way, wolves have stronger jaws! look it up. Look under wolves killing dogs.

Answer by person
Submitted on 6/20/2004
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Sometimes wolves fight with wolverines sometimes not. It depends on the situation and if it's worth it.They are both super predators and would go through a pitbull like a buzz-saw Wolf Ecology: How wolves interact with other predators. BEARS: Wolves and bears can coexist peacefully and often avoid each other. However, wolf-bear interactions can be quite violent. Grizzly bears (Ursus arctos) will sometimes dig up, kill, and eat wolf pups. As a result, wolf packs will attempt to drive away grizzly bears that get close to the dens where wolf pups are living. Wolves may even attack, and have been known to kill, a grizzly bear that gets too close to the den. Wolves and grizzly bears have been seen fighting over animal carcasses from helicopters in Alaska. Bears will scavenge off of kills made by wolves, and they may try to drive a wolf or a few wolves off of a kill. Wolves can be quite aggressive towards black bears. There are records of wolves preying on black bears (Ursus americanus), and wolves have been known to kill and eat hibernating bears. Wolves will also attack black bear cubs when the mother bear cannot get to them and hurry them up a tree fast enough. Black bears will also occasionally kill wolf cubs. Figure one: Wolves and brown bears occur together in North America and Eurasia. This is a grizzly bear, Ursus arctos horribilis. COUGARS: Wolves will sometimes drive a cougar (Felis concolor) away from a kill it has made so they can eat it themselves. A solitary cougar is often at a disadvantage when it is involved in a fight with a wolf pack, but a cougar may injure and/or kill wolves that try to take over a kill it has made if there are only a few wolves present. It is rare for a wolf to kill a mature cougar, but it has happened and wolves occasionally kill cougar cubs. Overall, wolf-cougar interactions are rarely observed because of the rarity of the two species, but the two generally share an animosity towards each other, since they both prey on large game. LYNX: Few interactions between lynx and wolves have been documented in North America. Erkki Pulliainen, a researcher at the Univeristy of Helsinki, found that wolves and lynx in Finland seem to be enemies and that they do not share territories. In Hungary and Finland, lynx numbers tend to increase in an area when wolf numbers in that area decrease. Figure two: This is a European lynx, Lynx canadensis. Wolves and lynx share ranges in Eurasia and North America, but very rarely interact with each other. TIGERS AND LEOPARDS: Wolves, tigers (Panthera tigris) and leopards (Panthera pardus) all occur in India. Tigers and leopards often prey on the same animals that wolves do so wolves generally do not share ranges with tigers or leopards. "Billy" Arjan Singh, a well known naturalist who studies tigers, has noted that, before they were driven to near extinction, tigers would sometimes prey on wolves. WOLVERINES AND OTHER WEASELS: Interactions between wolves and weasels are typically of an aggressive nature. Wolverines (Gulo gulo, which are not as vicious as their reputation suggests they are) are often driven away from a kill they have been feeding on by wolves. Occasionally, the wolverine is killed. Martens, mink and ermines are often killed by wolves, and their carcasses are usually left uneaten. Despite this danger, weasels often scavenge off of abandoned wolf kills. COYOTES: Wolves will often chase away (and possibly kill ) coyotes (Canis latrans) that venture onto their territory. When wolves were reestablished in Yellowstone National Park, coyote numbers in the park decreased and coyotes disappeared on Isle Royale about eight years after wolves reached the island. Some studies, such as those done by coyote biologist Wendy Arjo, suggest that coyotes often avoid wolves and choose home ranges that lie between the ranges of wolf packs. Coyotes are also active between the hours of 7:00 am and 11:00 am, while wolves are generally active at night. However, some coyotes will scanvenge off of wolf kills and some will even follow a wolf pack from a distance so they can scavenge off of the wolf kills when the wolves are some distance from it. The two species can interbreed, though they rarely do so. However, there is some evidence that the two species have interbred with each other in the eastern United States. Interbreeding between the two species is most likely to occur when wolf numbers are so low that a lone wolf would have a great deal of trouble finding a mate of the same species. Coyotes have also been breeding with the endangered red wolf (Canis rufus). Wild animals are faster and used to killing, especially wolves. A wolf can kill two to three dogs at one time. Look it up. There are reports of people hearing one or two yelps then silence. The next day all they can find of their dogs is blood and hair. How do you people know how to use a computer anyway?

Answer by other person
Submitted on 6/28/2004
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snoopy REALITY CHECK, hey genius,what do you know of pitbull history and what they once were? you probably won't admit it, but boy did you just make an ass of yourself acting like you know. yes, surprising enough they once fought lions, bears, wolverines, people, bulls, each other, etc...But this was the bulldog before they crossed it with the terrier to create a smaller gladiator.it was 3 vs lion,2 vs bear, and the rest im not sure.And yes the other animals had 40 ft. chains to keep them from running away.THIS IS WELL DOCUMENTED IN MANY PITBULL BOOKS!!!You don't have to believe it but why make yourself look so stupid insulting other people on a subject you know nothing about.go back to your wolf page and leave this one to people who know about pitbulls. by the way, i think you got enough pictures of idiots in your purse already, you know what i mean?Thanks for the laugh though!!

Answer by Sally
Submitted on 6/28/2004
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I thought that the original question of whether a Pit could beat a Wolverine was an interesting idea. Why is it that there are so many ignorant stupid red-necks talking absolute garbage on here. Hey if you are called Deke or Bo, and enjoy 'huntin & fishin' in Mississippi then that is none of my concern (unfortunate) but live and let live. Quite obviously most of you stupid illiterate numbsculls are just talking a load of crap, because you can't spell Pit bull let alone own one. But if there is one person on this site that actually goes to Dog Fights, or takes pleasure in seeing cruelty or torture to innocent creatures, then I hope you are caught and put away for a very long time,(you sick S.O.B,s)Go to school, learn to read and write, get rid of the chewing tobacco and maybe have a wash and a shave once in a while. Just please allow normal people to have a normal conversation, and get off the site.

Answer by face
Submitted on 6/29/2004
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i have grown up in the country my dogs serve 2 functions 1 protect my family at all cost and 2 let me know when something is going on on my land. In return my dogs live a spoiled life live inside as one of the family. it bothers me when people think just because it is a pit it will guard dogs are pack animals they protect what they see as its pack. if a wolverine and dog were to fight it would not be a definite win for one or the other it would depend on th individuals ive seen coon dogs that could circle a coon and snap its neck with out a scratch but not all dogs can but why would you want to know this information. ohhh yeah thats right it most likely has to do with compensation.

Answer by rottsrock72
Submitted on 7/7/2004
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how can you say that apbt can kill wolverine its like when i hear that some people say that apbt can kill grizzly bear no way in hell have i ever heard a apbt to kill grizzly one clean swipe of it claw and its all over evern one bite to an apbt its all over for the dog . ive seen on a tv show where a pack of wolfs were at a kill and out of no where this 700kg bear run straight at the wolfs yeh they put up abit of a challenge up . but at the end they all run off like little mice lol. as for the wolferine ive seen them take to a bear but then again it also run off u dont miss around with a grizzly. but yeah hmmmmm wolferine against an apbt well i would say would be a challenge pbt could win in a fight to the death but then on the otherhand could also lose. apbt not all so tuff after all pound for pound apbt are strong but its like saying lets put mike tyson up against a 10 year old kid

Answer by rottsrock72
Submitted on 7/7/2004
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how can you say that apbt can kill wolverine its like when i hear that some people say that apbt can kill grizzly bear no way in hell have i ever heard a apbt to kill grizzly one clean swipe of it claw and its all over evern one bite to an apbt its all over for the dog . ive seen on a tv show where a pack of wolfs were at a kill and out of no where this 700kg bear run straight at the wolfs yeh they put up abit of a challenge up . but at the end they all run off like little mice lol. as for the wolferine ive seen them take to a bear but then again it also run off u dont miss around with a grizzly. but yeah hmmmmm wolferine against an apbt well i would say would be a challenge pbt could win in a fight to the death but then on the otherhand could also lose. apbt not all so tuff after all pound for pound apbt are strong but its like saying lets put mike tyson up against a 10 year old kid

Answer by rottsrock
Submitted on 7/7/2004
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i cant believe what im reading about these super dog apbt some of you say they fight bears yeah right they cut off the bears 6 or 7 inch claws and they been known to cut out there massive teeth but then that wouldnt matter cos the bear would still kick the ass of an apbt . just by sitting on it lmao it crush the apbt bones to peices. yes im not saying that apbt a weak by any way or form pound to pound they a strong its like when my friend apbt was killed by a mustiff of some kind dont get me wrong the mustiff was bloodied too but come out on top as a winner............ its like sayingapbt against a lion noooooooooooooo way one bite from lion even from a bear would be all over hyhena will never attack a male lion but on the otherhand will attack and even kill a female lion that ive seen on tv. i went hunting wild pig and believe me they are mean mother f**** anyway one of the pit bulls were attacked and killed by one of these pigs cut the dogs throat out thats why we put leather strapping around the doge neck and chest . and as for wolferine well i guess if they both come into contact im pritty sure the wolferine would walk away with a few cuts but would teach an apbt a lesten or too i guess if the apbt were to sneak up to a wolferine well then its all over wolferine but cant say that if they were to face together eye to eye

Answer by braveheart
Submitted on 7/11/2004
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i know this hasnt got anythink to do with a pitbull vwolferiene but just want people to know what a grizzly can do to an apbt . if apbt came in contact with a grizzly it be all over within sec. this my opinion on wolferien vpitbull face to face i cant ever see apbt getting over a wolferien . anyway this is what a grizzly can do The Californians of the late 19th century staged well-documented pit fights with grizzlies and spanish bulls. The grizzlies, using their paw as a club, shattered the unfortunate bull's skull or shoulder bones so easily that the betting became poor. Eventually, and at considerable cost, African lions were brought in to raise the stakes. The most fierce of the adult males was sent in whilst the grizzly was already waiting in the pits. The lion was known for bravely charging straight in and looked good for the money, but the grizzly killed a male lion almost as easily as he'd killed the bull.so can u imagin what it can do to a 800pound grizz

Answer by Rod
Submitted on 8/31/2004
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well - I have been in the bush all my life (55 years) - and as a search and rescue person...I DEFY anything to attack and kill a wolverine. Are you guys serious? Bears...cougars...6 wild dogs - all will back away from a wolverine. NOTHING even comes close to its power and bite. Not EVEN a pitbull! Take this to the bank...unless the wolverine is sick and 12 years old! I defy ANYONE to honestly say that - age for age - the dog would win. NONSENSE! AND I HAVE SEEN THE WOLVERINE IN ACTION A DOZEN TIMES!!!!! Kill a 1200 pound bear just for a dozen fish or other meat. Dont EVER go up against a wolverine. It will make ROAD KILL out of you - and your dog!!!!!!

Answer by Gargentula 2
Submitted on 9/2/2004
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Killing or not killing .. it all depends For the pitt bull and the wolverine and fact can be established .. the differ in size and temper ... the ground can play a role as well as the personal details of each creature I once saw i lion climbing on the back of an elephant killing it but normally an elephant would kill lions easily Russian princes in the old days had a certain sport in which they moved into the bear fast killing it with a knife ... Bears are not fighters but getting slabbed by one can certainly be deathly however on it own terms a bear is pretty strong And even this ooohhhh pitt bull talk it is relatively aggressiv but still just one breed among manys I am sure somewhere in this world a pitt bull can kill a wolverine and the opposite Now personally i kill wolverines and pitt bulls alive with my dreaded iron fist and have them for lunch and nobody survives to tell the tale .. and that is just me Now i have to tell you this I equipped my mouse "R. Guliani aka the peeper" with the ability to stench its enemies and it works wonders ... Okay ... discussion finished now bring it on

Answer by matt
Submitted on 9/8/2004
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hey, im 13 and i didnt read all these answers but by the ones i did read ur all idiots! yes, pitbulls were once extremely vicious and could beat the crap out of a wolverine, but that was way back when pits were fighters and trained for it! i have been around pitbulls my whole life and they are no more vicious then any other dog, unless they are trained to be which is very raer!! but it is possible for a pit to get in a scuffle with another animal, and if they become angry enough they will most likely always come out on top. only because of what theve been bred with to become a "pitbull" They have an extremely high tolerance for pain and even though there is no accurate way to test psi they are frequently estimated to have nearly 2000 psi. so........yes, but they would get a little worked themselves.

Answer by 2pitbullowner
Submitted on 9/21/2004
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well i think ,milo von fottenheimer should be put in a cage with a wolverine.ithink anyone who fights dogs or animals of any breed for fun ahould be disemboweled...with a rusty hatchet a serrated steak knife.why isnt anyone focusing on the fact that pitbulls adore and idolize there owners like humans idolize there favorite thing in life. so pls before u fight ur dog .all u degenerate low lifes.kill urself instead of a valuable historic icon like the pitbull.who has proved it self through,the test of time,countless acts of heroism like being police dogs,seeing eye dogs,and the best friend of millions of americans.with or without kids.so for the love of pits.lets talk about the good deeds of the breed not the occasional horrible act by an often, abused,terrified,easily trained,bread to hate love machine turned killer..........

Answer by Glen
Submitted on 9/28/2004
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To "doesn't matter" and other wolverine skeptics: Read the book DEMON OF THE NORTH by Peter Krott. Some libraries may stock it, and I bought a used copy over the internet. The author lived among wolverines in the Northern European wilderness for many years. In the book he stated that in a confrontation, a wolverine is far superior to a wolf. From firsthand observations he told of several incidents that confirm the prowess of the wolverine. One I recall was of a wolverine's determination to take a bear's fresh kill. Before the bear fled, the wolverine had lunged onto the bear's face and bit a sizable chunk out of its snout. And I believe I mentioned before the incident where a wolverine killed an adult moose, and upon tearing its skull open, devoured its brain. Therefore, I believed that a wolverine would have to be either very young, very old and/or very sick for any pitbull (or other domesticated dog) to get the best of it.

Answer by Glen
Submitted on 9/28/2004
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To "doesn't matter" and other wolverine skeptics: Read the book DEMON OF THE NORTH by Peter Krott. Some libraries may stock it, and I bought a used copy over the internet. The author lived among wolverines in the Northern European wilderness for many years. In the book he stated that in a confrontation, a wolverine is far superior to a wolf. From firsthand observations he told of several incidents that confirm the prowess of the wolverine. One I recall was of a wolverine's determination to take a bear's fresh kill. Before the bear fled, the wolverine had lunged onto the bear's face and bit a sizable chunk out of its snout. And I believe I mentioned before the incident where a wolverine killed an adult moose, and upon tearing its skull open, devoured its brain. Therefore, I believed that a wolverine would have to be either very young, very old and/or very sick for any pitbull (or other domesticated dog) to get the best of it.

Answer by Glen
Submitted on 9/28/2004
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To "doesn't matter" and other wolverine skeptics: Read the book DEMON OF THE NORTH by Peter Krott. Some libraries may stock it, and I bought a used copy over the internet. The author lived among wolverines in the Northern European wilderness for many years. In the book he stated that in a confrontation, a wolverine is far superior to a wolf. From firsthand observations he told of several incidents that confirm the prowess of the wolverine. One I recall was of a wolverine's determination to take a bear's fresh kill. Before the bear fled, the wolverine had lunged onto the bear's face and bit a sizable chunk out of its snout. And I believe I mentioned before the incident where a wolverine killed an adult moose, and upon tearing its skull open, devoured its brain. Therefore, I believed that a wolverine would have to be either very young, very old and/or very sick for any pitbull (or other domesticated dog) to get the best of it.

Answer by Joshua X
Submitted on 11/27/2004
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First off thease socalled pit bull lovers need to get their heads out of thier butts. For some reason they think if a pitbull is or was fought that they are made agerssive, I find that kind off funny concerding for the last 200 years thats what they did. Check your history! The same history that made those dogs off the past makes the dogs of today. You are shooting you me and the dogs in the foot every time you say fighting them makes them bad. The true heritage of game pit bulls of the past makes your pet today! Fighting PB'sis not for every one, but don't nock oters for keeping the bloodline true. If you want to point fingers, do so towards the media. You probly didn't notice how many attacks there were prier to incresed laws in the 1970's becuse owners were still testing there PB's Now people are breeding and buying for looks, not gameness. Intern owners are getting away from the true "American Pit Bull Terier". In the old days if a PB bit or attacked a person the owners would kill it. Think about it, if two PB'sare in the middel of a match how would two hndelers seperate them without beeing bit. It wasn't tolerated. And anoter thing "gameness" and "agression" are not the same thing. Any dog can be made agressive but not made game. A preson can make any dog agressive and want to attack any thing, but not for long, it's the law of th wild (fight or flight). Most pit bulls love to fight don't kid yourself, thats wy deadgame PB'sput fight before life it's self, you canot make an animal do that. Most people don't even Know what a real match (fight) is all about. Terditionly the dogs are faced in a 16' by 16' box and then realesed. Released, they can not be phyicly impaled in any way posible. At either a 15 min. mark our if a dog turns like it dosen'tseem to want to fight, a ref will ask to get a handel on your dogs. At that time the two are squared off in thier corners. The ref will say to the handeler of the dog that "turned" release your dog. Once again you can not push the dog in, The dog makes the decison. If a dog dosn'tgo, it loses. Useally a dog is tested for a few minuts at a time before being matched, these are called schooling rolls (to see posible potential). Thease are the things that would help with selective breeding for gameness. Sometimes a dog is refered to as being "dead game" this useally means for example, 2 hours into match the dogs are squared off and one of them has two broken leggs. At that time the dog when realsed, it tries to push its self across, you can make a dog mean as hell' but you can not make him do that. As far as a PB beating a wolvering it is hard to say. Something to consider is the fight or flight thinking. Animals in the wild won't or can't risk being injured. If an animal is too hurt to hunt, they wont surive. If coms down to heart, the pit bulls have it hands down. To all pit bul owners, please suport all aspects of the breed, we can't aford to spend our energy fighting each other, becuse in the end yours and mine PB'swill have been the ones who have lost. United we stand. Thanks for careing.

Answer by Bush
Submitted on 12/9/2004
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I support the wolverine, cause I have been studying about wolves for years now and I know that wolverine are a tough animal. He can drive away 3 Wolves away and 1000 ponds brown bears off its kills. I'm not sure how wolverine fight, but one thing I know about dogs is that they got weak jaws. Doesn't matter what type of dogs, dogs only got the jaw pressure of 700 pounds per square inch. I mean, wolves got a 1500 pounds of jaw pressure, twice the pressure of dogs. So I know that wolverine might pretty have the same as wolves. One thing you know is that dogs can not kills other animal. Have you have see a pack of dogs who got a small deer at bay and are cowardly, never dear to attack. The sames go to pit bull, they got big mouth but small teeth and jaw. I've seen 5-7 pit fighting a small wild boar and never get the wild boar the bleed. can you imagine that. A single wolf can kill a small wild boar in minutes... There's just no way a pit could win a wolverine... I'm President Bush and I approve this massege...

Answer by Cptech61
Submitted on 12/16/2004
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I have 3 pitbulls 2 males and a female. They all have great personalites and are all inside dogs, they are the smartest breed of dog I have ever owned and the easiest to train. I would never ever jeprodize one of these dogs saftey to see if it could whip some animal wolf dog or what ever. These dogs are part of our family my children love and play with these dogs everyday Never ever has one of these dogs offered to bite a human, nor would I ever encourage such behavior from these dogs. There is no doubt in my mind that if and when a time arose they would need to protect against an entruder they would sense the danger. Pitbulls are animal aggresive and need to be kept under control when other animals are around. To however started this string you are the type of person that gives these dogs the bad rap that the do not deserve. Like I said I said my dogs are so people friendly, I never have to worry when my kids have friends over, all these dogs want is to be part of the fun.

Answer by JeSsE
Submitted on 12/26/2004
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First, I'd like to say that most of the people who responded to this question are complete idiots. Who's ever heard of a 200 lb. Pitbull? Or Wolverine in that case? I own 3 pitbulls and I would never, under any circumstances command them to fight. I think all animal fighting is senseless and idiotic. I Cannot believe people can be so cruel as to force and animal to be put in such a horrible situation. As much as I hate it, my male has been in a few fights with other dogs who come in my yard. And I'm sorry to say that he has completely destroyed every other animal he has ever faced. I am 100% opposed to dog fighting, but i think a pitbull would win reguardless of a wolverines scent or claws. The claws wouldnt do much against jaws that can apply 800 Lbs. of pressure per square inch. I cant believe that some idiots have the nerve to call wolverine's "fierce predators' they are related to weasels!!! And their main food source is: yup you guessed it the most ferociuos food of all BERRIES!!!!

Answer by apbt
Submitted on 12/27/2004
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Pitbull isn't a breed, it's a general term for a variety of dog breed. The only true "pitbull" is the American pitbull terrier (apbt). Ofcourse, the old English dogmen can debate on that, but that's another question altogether. And no, a "pitbull" do not have a lock jaw. It does not betray it's owner, or go insane. Throw all that bullsh*t out the window. A pitbull is probably the most loyal breed on the planet. Why? Unfortunately, they are loyal because they were bred for fighting (after bull baiting was made illegal in Britain, people turned to dog fighting). In a fighting pit (cajun rule), the dog is handled and washed by a stranger (owner of the other dog). If that dog ever bite a person, it will most likely be culled. During an intense fight, the referee has to separate and scratch them. You try separating any other breed, including your friendly Golden retriever during a scuffle, and you will most likely be bitten. A pit fight isn't a scuffle, it's an all out battle, yet both pitbulls can be handle by a stranger (referee). For most other breed, after years of abuse and neglect, they become fearful and bites. A pitbull is the most abused type of dog, yet if you watch animal planet, most of these pit, even fighting ones are regularly handled by aspca agents without fear. Like any other breed, there's always one or two exception. Do not confuse "animal agression" with "people agression". That's where many novice pitbull owner runs into trouble. They see their pitbull as the most friendly of dogs toward humans, so they think, why not friendly toward other dogs? they let they dog roam, and the pit ended up killing another DOG. "Never trust your pitbull not to fight" another dog. Regardless of how friendly it is. A bad trait of pitbull is breeding them with big, man-agressive, guarding breed. A pure pit is the friendliest dog toward people of any other breed. Period. However, many backyard street thugs like a bigger dog, and bred them with rottweiler and other instinctive gaurd dog. A result, you have a human agressive mutt, that looks like an Apbt, but is not one at all. People are also confuse as to which one is the true pitbull. Take this test: http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html In the dark side of dog fighting, dogmen do not care what their dog looks like. If that dog has game and looks like a skinny greyhound with floppy ear, it's a true pit, regardless. Like any other breed, socialize your pitbull(pet-pitbull) with people and other dogs at an early age. Most do not show agressive tendency towards other dog as a puppy. However, around a year depending on temperament, I suggest humans be your pits primary companion, not other dogs, even ones they use to like as a puppy. Pits love people, and a true pitbull is the most people friendly dog of them all. That's why you hear many game pitbulls stolen from a breeder's yard. Try to steal a rottweiler or german shepard, and you'll get more than you can chew. Last, but not least, let's get into theory. Can a "game-pitbull" take on a "wolverine"? The answer is a definite yes. Can the game-pit die from this "fictional" fight? yes. Will it give up? NO. If the wolverine can not kill the game pit, it will most certainly die. A game pit is highly pain tolerant. It can dish and receive punishment. A wolverine is all about survival. If it encounter a bigger more dominant wolverine, it will back down. If it encounter a more dominant "pesonality wise" pitbull, will it back down? probably yes. Will the pitbull allow it to back down? probably no, the game pit will continue to fight it until the wolverine dies, or itself dies. It is unfortunate what man has bred into this breed, but it's reality. While you (and I) should not condone any form of animal sport fighting, do not ignore the facts of how your breed has come into existence. Sure, it's probably the friendliest, most beloved breed you have ever own, but also be aware of your dog's instinctive tendancy. "Never trust your pitbull not to fight another dog". Always have your dog on leash outside the house! Absolutely, do not bring it to a dog park! It's not natural, because in a dog-park setting, strange dogs are running all over the place without order, or knowing who's domanant or not. Dogs are marking it's territory all over the place, and fights will Most likely happen. If you love your petbull, do not give it the opportunity to fight another dog. Regardless of which dog starts the fight, the blame will be on your pit. If you want to continue owning your dog, then do not allow the media to portray it in a negative way by being ignorant of the facts.

Answer by ROTTWEILER
Submitted on 1/13/2005
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First of all I don't think that a pitbull could kill a wolverine. Not all Pits are agressive, it all depends on how it is brought up. I read up above that pitbulls don't have lock jaw, im not sure if that is true. I live in South Africa and here in Cape Town dog fighting is not that comman. I've only wittnessed a few dogs fighting,I dont have a pit I have a ROTTWEILER and i don't care about what people say about rotties and pits I beleive that any idiot can make there dog agressive. But i love my rottie and he is a great companian altought he's only 13months old i would like him to get bigger and more agressive but not for the purpose of being a loving companien and a gard dog. i think all dogs are wonderful.

Answer by ROTTWEILER
Submitted on 1/13/2005
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First of all I don't think that a pitbull could kill a wolverine. Not all Pits are agressive, it all depends on how it is brought up. I read up above that pitbulls don't have lock jaw, im not sure if that is true. I live in South Africa and here in Cape Town dog fighting is not that comman. I've only wittnessed a few dogs fighting,I dont have a pit I have a ROTTWEILER and i don't care about what people say about rotties and pits I beleive that any idiot can make there dog agressive. But i love my rottie and he is a great companian altought he's only 13months old i would like him to get bigger and more agressive but not for the purpose of being a fighting dog but for the purpose of being a loving companien and a gard dog. i think all dogs are wonderful.

Answer by booger
Submitted on 3/31/2005
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IT all depends on how you raise your dog. I have a pitbull that is the smartest dog i have ever seen. Pitbulls have the reputation that they are so ferocious and people say they would never get one. Thats all B/S. It depends on how you raise them my dog knows about 20 different tricks. He is now 4 and has never even bit a person. Now he will growl at a person if he doesn't know them but he'll never bite them. Even when he gets in to a fight he only fights back unless the other dog fights back. He just shows them who's boss. Now about the question if you have an actual game dog that will fight to the death then it might have a chance at winning against a wolverine and thats only if the dog gets a hold of it at the neck or something.

Answer by Game dog
Submitted on 3/31/2005
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Listen not just any everyday petbull can kill this animal. You need a game bred pitbull. Pitbulls from tight bloodlines like chinaman and mayday just to name some. Its all about the gameness these animals have. And for the people who dis like dogfighting can go to hell. We as humans can do what we please, come on now, pitbulls were bred for dog fighting only. Becauase of people breeding them to be pets and love buggs it messing up the true breed meaning. I say kill ever petbull and keep on breeding the game dog. Hopefully some day someone will make dog fighting legal again. Because 78% of people like it anyway, peta can kiss my rican ass for all i care, dog fighting is one of best thing known to man other than sex

Answer by GQ
Submitted on 4/13/2005
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I have a friend of means; his father is an industralist. The man has showed me a couple of birds he keeps - cassowaries. They weigh around 70k. My friend has offered to fly anyone and whatever dog they own into this country and put them up in style. Their dog will be matched against his birds (one at a time). If any dog can last more than ten minutes against his birds, he will be willing to pay them a sum of at least USS$10,000. He is absolutely sure his birds can kill any breed of dog in a few minutes. Oh, he also has a large dog collection - Danes, Rotty'sand the like. He knows what he is talking about. Anyone willing to take this up is welcome to contact us at biztalk1231@yahoo.com. Serious people only. Please expect a large gathering of people there, media-shy people need not apply. Thanks.

Answer by Vortex
Submitted on 4/15/2005
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Interesting question. I'm not for Dog fighting or anything. But i study dogs ALL the time. I think that it could kill a Wolverine. (Incidentley, i study Wolverines a lot too, lol.) But yeah, Wolverines aren't as ferocious as they say they are. The Animal would most likely try to escape. One thing i've wondered, is who would win between a Pitbull and a Wolf? If they both were aggressive? Now i KNOW Pitbulls aren't aggressive unless they are abused. But i'm interested because the Pitbull has the most powerful jaw pressure of any Domestic breed. And the Wolf has pretty good jaw pressure itself. I'm trying to figure out the excact jaw pressure of a Pitbull. I don't know if any studies have been made yet though. And there are no stupid questions. Just stupid answers.

Answer by miami
Submitted on 5/12/2005
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I have heard no mention of strains or lines for game bred pit bulls which leads me to think no one has a clue. More often than not your Pit Bulls that can beat up the poodle next door or german shepard despite its ability to come out on top of a average scrap isnt a fighting dog. Kegs on legs large headed dogs seen in rap videos/movies/or t.v. with back legs shorter than the front are novice crap bred white trash and ghetto dogs that are perfect examples of a ruined dog breed and most likely what you all own many come in white, blue, red and brindle of either red or blue colors these seem to be the novice trend colors as of late. A game bred performance dog is lean with rear legs that are higher than the front the dog looks lean and conformed a head to match its body, it appears leggy from the side and deep chested from the front the jaw is not short but mid lenth like more like a lab which is refered to as a capable jaw/gripping jaw not stout like a american bulldog/or ghetto bred pit bull the dog is never stocky or short and has a very high game and prey drive. These dogs you bought from the local harley rider or drug dealer would stand no chance against these lines of game bred dogs which are rare these days do to novice breedings. Ignorant people owning these dogs is very common the only decent point raised in this is comparing a pit fighting a wolverine over a dead animal or in a pit with 100 people watching each animal should do well in its own element depending on the quality of the animal and no outcome can be certain. As far as the wolverine goes it is a great bluffer and most the time scares off bears, mountain lions and timbers with boldness kinda like a 140 pound lil skinny guy going nuts yelling waving his arms in a bar pulling out a gun and making the 250 pound bouncer nervous, the other animals retreat because they arent sure how to take the wolverine, but if it came down to it, and it has happened 2-3 timbers will tear one to shreds, a bear can take one like a human could a kitten and a mountain lion should kill it with ease, if the bluff is called. Ive seen pack dogs scare off huge brown bear if the brown bear decided to stick around and fight he would win with easy usually he leaves because he is takin off guard and shocked by the animals boldness and persistant challenge the wolverine uses boldness to scare off animals not his fighting let alone fighting to the death if by chance he kills a animal its by fluke he wounds the animal and it dies 3 weeks later from some infection.

Answer by miami
Submitted on 5/12/2005
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As far as a full grown lion or brown bear vs any k9 is a joke. A full male brown bear vs a lion or tiger isnt much of a match. A bear is a smart powerful and fast animal its like putting a 10 year old blackbelt in against mike tyson one blow to the lion would be the end, and if it didnt kill the lion he would be dead soon from a broken jaw and die of hunger. A bear is thick skinned and even a lions claws wouldnt do much damage as for a bear it can rip through a log like cheese a bear can stand upright and is smart and has a big size advantage and is way more powerful, the lion would never be able to pin the bear down or get its neck bears have been caught on film killing huge animals with a single blow animals pushing 1800 or more pounds.

Answer by the truth
Submitted on 5/17/2005
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There is no way a pitbull could beat a Wolverine. 1)A wolverine is much faster and it doesn't fight like a dog (head only). A Wolverine strikes with its teeth and claws, like a rattle snake, and then gets out of range. 2) Even if a pitbull somehow managed to get a Wolverines face or neck first the wolverine would still, like any other dog, be able to clamp onto something with a little manovering. Now, all the pitbull can do is hold on and wait for the Wolverine to get exhausted. The wolverine on the other hand will bite the skin clean off of the pitbulls face as well as crack the bone. 3) Now introduce the Wolverines claws to the throat,eyes, stomach... In summary, if nothing else, a pit bulls determination is no match for a Wolverines bone crushing jaws not to mention claws, reflexes and speed. Anybody who claims that there dog killed a Wolverine is a liar (who can't swear to God) or has heard too many urban myths. The alleged wolverine killed in a chicken coupe by a pitbull most likely was a raccon. As far as Rottweillers vs pitbulls->The rotty will kill in the first 3 minutes and then run out of gas and get eaten alive if the pitbull is still alive.

Answer by italian baldy
Submitted on 8/12/2005
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wow, wow,wow I must say first off that I do love pitbulls, been around a few of em never a bad experience.but, 1000 fights between a wolverine and a pit the pit might win 5, thats hit, dont care if you believe it, you people are the reason I didnt purchase another pit when my dog died at 13 years old of natural causes. When out on walks I either got fellow pitbull owners saying bad ass dog you ever let it fight? or others saying omygod a pitbull!!!!! Instead I got a cane corso direct from sicily, And you know what, it was the best decision ever. this dog sleeps with his head resting on my kids bed and is totally laid back with other dogs, totally protective over the house at home but dependable with strangers although watchful outside the home. As far as protection dogs go, I laugh my ass off at pitbull owners everywhere. yes your 100 pound pit could probably take my dog, if it did i would shoot it. that aside pits love fighting dogs, so if for instance a dog does a home invasion on you to try an get your tv to pawn for crack, yes the pit may take him out, but if i come across your pit i can handle him easily that is if he even tried anything with me. whereas my dog will protect the house from intruders not only pit boss dogs. not that I need it. Ill tell you the only thing I need for home protection is a dog that will bark when strangers are around, I can very much so handle it from there. so in reality a rat terrier would suffice.learn about pits from other sources besides dmx videos, and youll realize that they are horrible watch dogs, unless of course it is another dog breakin in your house, lmao

Answer by KYPITMAN
Submitted on 8/21/2005
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1st: The bigger, heavier and taller the pit the worse it would fight against the wolverine. 2nd: Why would you want to take a chance on your dog being killed? I have a 14 month old male (56 lbs.) who has plenty of heart but I would not put him in the ring with a wolverine. 3rd: Pit bulls are the ultimate dog fighting machine and I do not believe that there is a dog out there who can battle a game pit and live to tell about it BUT HAVE YOU SEEN A WOLVERINE LATELY??? These dudes are built to survive... 4th and last: Get a life people...discussions by owners like some of you guys are the reason that pits are fighting for their lives in the ring of public image and battling to the death against city ordnances nationwide.

Answer by Reckless{HO}
Submitted on 11/2/2005
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well,i don't no much about pitbulls or wolverines but a pitbull if a dog,c'mon people think before you say.... keeword being here is "WILD" animals,they are 50-100x more territorial then dogs are,dogs are territorial to other dogs/cats..other house holds pets and a few racoons ora skunk,but think about it,a wolverine has like almost a punch it was use its front paws,back paws,and its mouth.dogs can do damage with andyof that but their mouth,soo in other words..the dogs needs to be extremly closer to the wolverine to even think about doing damage,where as the wolverine has what ...1-2 feet of striking distance,and the claws of them,i wouldnt even wanna HEAR about a fight between these two animals it would just discust me how bad the pitbull would get demolished,they are agressive,have strong jaws but they are short,stocky DOGS that get their own food gave to them daily where as wolverines have to actualy hunt and KILL to survive,giving MUCH more experiance with actually killing somthing and fighting to win,where as alot of dogs dong fight to the death simply because they don't have to...just tihnk about it for more then 15 seconds before u write stuff like a pitbulls going to beat a wolverine.um not trying to put you're animals down in anyway shape or form but its just not possible unless the wolverine was like a month old or anarxic,

Answer by pitbullface
Submitted on 11/16/2005
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Pit bull was breed for fighting and they are excellent at doing that. I hardly know anything about wolverine but the information I'll been reading I thing the wolverine is a superior creature but I still think if the pit bull is game, and mentality is fight to the end don't matter how much pain your in I feel the pit bull would come out a winner. look at sea biscuit the smallest horse in the race but heart was in the race. One more thing, to all you people who are bring down the pit bull name, how can you judge a pit bull and probly never had a pit bull in your life, that just like your a fireman and never did a practical just theory, reading bad information could never give you enough information, you have to raise a pit bull and you will see that the pit bull is the best dog in the world seeing is believing.

Answer by Chuck
Submitted on 11/29/2005
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I really don't know the answer. I will tell you however that I recently put down one of the meanest Pit Bulls this side of Mexico, and I don't really know if she would be fully capable of killing a wolverine. She was a 72 lb female Am-Staff that had a wicked short temper and didn't like ANYBODY! She was cut all to hell and a strong swimmer! SHE WAS DEFINATELY SWOLE!!! However, I do agree that it will come to chance on which one lands the first crucial blow. IN addition, I recently rescued a year and a half old pit bull that was abused and fought, and it takes all my energy to work with her to try to get her back as a happy dog that doesn't have to worry about these sorts of things. I think it is b/s to even ask the question and a direct attack on the character of the dog.

Answer by Langkabel
Submitted on 12/16/2005
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First off everyone that has said a Pit could take on a Wolverine, well you obviously dont know the Wolverine..The indians called it the mountain devil, The wolverine has extremely well developed muscle's especially the shoulder and neck muscles..Wolverines stalk bears and wolve packs and often steal the food from the bear or pack of wolves once they have taken the animal down..Wolverines are not good at hunting but are very effective at killing and defending themselves.Wolverines know no fear their have the reputation as one of the most fierce animals on the face of this earth. Lets face the facts the wolverine has 38 sharp teeth and 5 semi-retractable claws on each paw. If a pit were to try and come at this animal head on it would be stopped by a barrier of 3-5 inch claws (depending on the wolverine's size) If it can fight off a Bear, a Cougar, or a pack of hungry wolves i'mmore then sure he would be able to stop a pitbull, Another thing you all speak of big dogs and 70lb pits a 50-60 pound pit is the best weight you could have with that size its got all the muscle it needs without lacking the agility that bigger animals dont always have.Bigger is not always better same holds true with Wolverines on avg they weigh around 35-40 pounds with females waying slighty less...but the main thing is that the pitbull and the wolverine would never get in a fight if some dumb ass didnt go trap a wolverine and bring it to the pit becuase lets face it Pitbulls arent known for wandering across the canadian tundra, Theres a saying it goes " A cur dog can whoop a Pitbull in its own territory" meaning that that animal is adapted to that area take it out and its lost some of its edge. also heres a little hint the wolveine has scent glands any dogs natural instinct is to not get near an animal like this any dog would however if it was with that animal in a confined space or if the dogs master where in danger( one thing ill say for the pit is it would give up its life to save yours and most of you use them as amusment instead of as companions) but however if the Pit was for sum reason wandering the canadian tundra and smelt a wolverine approaching he would head the other way just like the way bears ,cougars, wolves, and any other animal does when it smells a wolverine For the wolverine has no predators save for man

Answer by DrJekyl
Submitted on 12/18/2005
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To all of you pit bull haters, none of you obviously knows nothing about this dog. As a breeder and one who has matched dogs before (yeah yeah yeah yeah I know you are bashing right now but who cares)let me fill you in on something. Before the dog was a fighting dog he was a bait dog, and what is known as a catch dog. This was used to bring down bulls in the pasture for the farmers use. They were also known for catching hold of wild boars for hunters and yes they got thrown around like rag dolls because of they're small size but they hung tough and never let go. I believe one gentleman above by the name of Edward is probably the only one in here that knows anything about pits. Anyway as he said this has all been done before and you can actually buy books that have pics of pits fighting wolverines on the market and see the wolverine get chewed up. There are also some videos that proves this contests winner, you just have to know where to look but I am sure if you look hard enough on the internet you will find it. Although I will tell you that they will not sell it to just anyone, and you idiots do not qualify because you are all idiots. Pits will win against a Wolverine or possum or racoon and the likes because a game dog fights for the love of it. It does not stop because it gets bit hard or because his belly hurts or because his leg is broken. Yes they will fight on even with broken legs, trust me I know, I have witnessed it. A game dog continues until it dies or its opponent dies. Find the video for sale and you will see the Wolverine die. And if you are all nice to me I will point you in the right direction. Unlike the lions vs tiger dispute and the gorilla vs this and that, there is actual footage of a Wolverine vs Pit Bull fight from start to finish on the market. Watch the little critter die.

Answer by drama
Submitted on 1/10/2006
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real quick let me say not 1 animal on 2 or four legs can kill a full grown male grizzly it is impossible!not even a dozen pitbulls or wolverines they would die faster then you could let them out.a grizzly runs from nothing...not even humans with guns! if you shot a wolverine or wolf or pitbul with a 9mm lets say..chances are they will take off..ive seen pitbulls keep going even wolves...i have never once seen a grizzly run from a man shooting it with any gun for that matter chances are it is going to charge you and if you have anything short of a 44 you are fukkin dead. and even then u better get him in the head!ive seen those videos and im for the pitbull but lets be real no one or two or 3 full grown males would kill a bear full grown.....when they use dogs to hunt bears all the do is corner them so the hunter can get his shot..alot of the times they lose dogs...even boar hunting they lose dogs....a wolverine is to small to do anything especially if a apbt got ahold of one..but again if it got ahold of the pit case closed...why doesnt some1 ask a new question?

Answer by fuerza22
Submitted on 1/18/2006
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I have come to realize the futility of trying to convince owners who fight dogs or hunt other animals for sport that it is a cruel and evil thing to do. The fact is that matching animals up in fights is the owners way of overcompensating for his/her inadequecies. Look I dont care how small your penis is, being cruel toward animals is unacceptable. Why dont you out of shape retards fight each other im sure those watching would get a good laugh at how pathetic you actually are. If you guys are so tough and love to fight so badly why dont you enter a tough man competition and see just how unpleasant it is to be the one in the ring. Dont expect something of another which you cannot do yourself...I dont know about a wolverine or a pit but I do know if you ever stepped into a ring with me...you would lose

Answer by idiots all of you
Submitted on 2/12/2006
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ok listen up people here is the real story, pay attention. wolverines have been known to chase away bears and wolves from pray because the are wild animals and they have whats called a "flight" instinct which allows them to have an erge to survive. they are not meant to get into meaningless fights, a major injury from tussling with any animal in the wild could cause them to die, imagine if a big old bear sustained a deep cut from fighting a wolverine and then later on it got infected. that bears life would be over and the life of the cubs would be over. people...there is no dissinfectant in the wild. the pit does not have a "flight" gene like other wild animals in fact it has the opposite like a lot of game dogs, and it is called just that,... game meaning willingness to stand and fight to the death, ofcourse keep in mind there are different degrees to gameness. that being said i have seen my dog tussle with a coon, on 3 different occasions, these were accidental fights but let me tell you the fight was over rather quickly once my pit grabbed hold and shook wildly the coon was just holding on for dear life. it did not even know what hit it. so guys please a wolvering posseses the flight gene and even if it did stand and fight back in the old days they used to match pits with wolverines, bobcats, wolves,coyotes and every account ive read the pit won. now ofcourse there is always an exception to the rule every once in a while. in my mind the only thing a pit would not beat close to its size is a hyena, simply cause their bite is documented to be the strongest per size in all the animal kingdom, if the hyena bit a pits leg it would literally shatter that bone in two. and its teeth are built so sheeer flesh so if it bit a pit it would literally tear the sking off where ever it bit. so that is the only animal close to its size that i would worry about. but i have to admit i never heard of these two animals getting in a fight.

Answer by vance
Submitted on 2/12/2006
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ok u losers i have a 1 year old pit bull she will never touch a human never!!!! thats why u dont get a dog with watch dog in him/her but one day me and my freind where walking our dogs and and my dog bit a big chunk out of his dog and my dog who is not half way grown the second most gamest pitbull ive ever had they where both non aggresive to humans but the one who was the most aggresive kilt my chow so i had to humanly uthinze it but back to the point my dog is the most gamest animal around and shes 1 yaer old and 1 month so shes gonna grow more. and i defidently no my dog would kill a wolverine of any size because pitbulls are supose to be close to the ground so they can rip out the neck and get it over with

Answer by pitbull owner
Submitted on 2/13/2006
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Yes pits were origanally bred for the pit,I agree. I also know they were bred with well thought out traits in strength and ability. That does'nt mean they are born killers. Put all there abilities together and that does'nt make them killers by nature, but if trained by ignorant humans to be killers they are the perfect killers I have a pit and she loves everyone my kids and the neiborhood children play with her in the yard regularly. My pit will on the other hand if me or my family or her see a real threat that can harm us she will become aggresive. That is a companion of family not a killer. any pit owner knows a pit will do anything to please its owner in whatever it is trained to do. a killer pit is trained to do so by the owner. It will only do so if taught to. The point is they are strong willed, eager to please, agile, strong, and they have incredible crushing power in their jaws, no not lock jaw thats a mith but they are born with the average k9's instincts it has to be trained to be a monster. you can train poodle to kill but would it be effient. blame the dee not the breed, and the ignorant owners most of all

Answer by Scottishsteve
Submitted on 2/23/2006
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Some of you people are heavily mistaken, I am a canine behaviourist from Glasgow University, and have studied canines for over 10 years (domestic breeds and wild). There is not one animal on the face of the planet that can out-bite a wolf, or beat one in a fight for that matter. I have witnessed Indian wolves (which are smaller than European/North American wolves)Fight and kill Large male Rottweilers in illegal dog fighting circle in Deli. Needless to say, the grey wolf being the largest, strongest and most powerful Mammal preadator on the planet for its size, will kill any dog, no matter how much their owner might disagree, or how feirce they have been trained to fight, In North America the only preadator that would not avoid a conflict with a dog gray wolf is a large brown bear, yes, even black bears have been killed by lone wolves... Do you think your pit bill could kill a black bear? I thought not.

Answer by mt
Submitted on 3/11/2006
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ok i actually dont know why on eath i actually read this stuff, but there is no way a single pi bull kills a wolwerine, i mean siriously r u guys retarded, the animal has as much of a bit as a pitbull and claws. but anyway, you r all full of it. i could keep going for hours, but i would basically say the same thing drama did. all this shows how ignorant people can be and those that are actually think about what you are readind and dont have a closed mind, will maybe reallize that this problem goes further than just dogs. that unfortunately most people simply accept things before the think about it, just think about wars, and how people believe what politicians say the reasons are, and then we stop seeing "the enemy" as humans. this ignorance goes furtherthan just pitbulls. but it is that mentality that is ruining this palnet.

Answer by pitbull dad
Submitted on 3/19/2006
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i don't know who put this topic up but its ignorant,these animals are the sweetest most loyal loving and protective of all breeds.it has been proven time and time again that they are highly intelligent problem solvers and they live to please they're owners!ive never met a mean pit just mean owners.these people should be jailed souly for theyre stupidity.im the dad of five bully dogs all of which are very well behaved and trusted by all in our community!they are gentle calm and very non aggresive unless they are mortally threatened or find a real reason to protect one of us.by the way they all stay in my home,and three are males all but one are unaltered.so the thought that they have it in theyre blood is nonsense.please people wake up!!!!p.s.if you get a chance,pick up an issue of bully breed magazine,you may learn a few things.

Answer by lunna
Submitted on 4/4/2006
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Well I came here to see if anyone had anything to say about a gator mouth pit. I have just been given a 2 year old male. But as I see this is probably not the place to find out. I don't care what kind of dog it is, if it is raised right and trained properly, it is a wonderful dog. I got this dog for protection and he is a perfect dog, with all kinds of people. Cats are a different thing, but he is a great dog, he came from down south where they fought him a few times, but he is in no way aggressive. He has his scars to prove he has fought. Which should have never happened, but people do stupid things as we all know. If anyone has any info on a gator mouth please email me at giglegurl42@yahoo.com.........because I sure didn't get any info from here.

Answer by mrknowitall
Submitted on 4/7/2006
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I respect both species. Many people on this website do not know much about either the pit bull or the wolverine. First of all, game pit bulls will bull or bear bait, but were not the original bull-baiting dog of England. American Bulldogs (which by the way average 100+ pounds) are the closest descendants of the English Bull/Bear-Baiters. The pit bull was derived from the American Bulldog to fight other dogs after bull-baiting was outlawed. A pit bull's body was designed to fight other dogs, not bulls; that explains their low stationed bodies which enable pit bulls to attack another dog's throat and legs easier. As for the record, the bear or de-horned bull was always teathered to a 15 foot rope to keep the fight somewhat even. One on one, though truly game, a pit bull stands no chance against a bull or a bear. Sure if the animal is in defense mode, the pit-bull could hurt a bull or a bear. In a FIGHT against a raging bull or an attacking bear, a pit bull would be quickly demolished. There are pictures that you should all see on this website http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/weblog/comments/3952/. Pit Bulls, generally, are pure game. Wolverines, on the other hand, are not domesticated creatures. Their natural instincts are to fight for food. Existing among wolves, bears, lynx, and cougars, the wolverine's survival is a function of whether or not it can stand it's ground against these creatures and it does. I have witnessed documentaries on wolverines. In one of these documentaries, a single wolverine intruded with confidence on the prey of a pack of wolves. It was attacked by the pack and, after taking all the wolves had to offer, attacked back driving off every single wolf. Wolverines have also been photographed in their fights with mountain lions. After dodging the deadly paw strikes from the mountain lion, the wolverine attacked, driving off the cat. All being said, both animals are incredible fighters. Wolverines aren't bred to fight and pit bulls are. In a cage, the pit bull will charge the wolverine first unless the wolverine has been trained. The wolverine is a grappler. It, in defensive mode, will tuck it's body inward to avoid damage. After the wolverine has lured the pit bull, it will attach itselt onto the pit bull not only with it's steel crushing jaws of 38 sharp teeth, but also with it's 5 inch claws front and back. Once the wolverine attaches itself to the pit bull, the fight will be over. The advantages of the wolverine are it's grappling abilities and it's claws. It's defense is also superior to that of the pit bull. The wolverine's thick coat is extremely durable and designed to withstand extreme winter temperatures. The pit bull's coat is stretched thin compared to the wolverine's. The only way the pit wins is if the wolverine backs down.

Answer by canadianlab
Submitted on 4/20/2006
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I own a canadian lab and she is the runt at 110lbs. Her brothers weigh in from 145 to 165lbs. She has had the dipleasure of fighting a pit and fighting a shovel head rott. Both fights ended with her seriously injuring these animals. I felt bad for them because I know that with proper training from thier owners they would not have attacked my best friend, being my dog. Canadian Labs are much different than any other breed of lab. Wedge heads, large hips, barrel chests and an overall powerful build make them a force to be reckoned with. I hate to see them fight, and wish that I could change it, but when they attack when we are on the leash, I rellease her and let her protect her mamma and pappa.

Answer by edgar
Submitted on 5/3/2006
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I can't believe how most of you idiots think that a pitbull can take out a wolverine. The pitbull literally stands zero chance versus a wolverine. The pitbulls greatest strength lies in its upper body, and jaw. The wolverine is a stronger, faster animal pound for pound. The jaw of the wolverine is also stronger than that of a pitbull. The wolverines teeth are denser, longer, and sharper. The wolverine has a thicker coat, and could endure any bite delivered by the pitbull. The pitbull has a thin coat, and has no defense versus the wolverine. The wolverine is equipped with sharp, semi-retractable claws. A more realistic fight would be 3 pitbulls versus 1 wolverine. Pitbulls, are probably the best fighting dog, next to the Kangal. However ANY "dog" is no match for the largest, strongest, meanest "Mustelidae" For all of you pitbull lovers, a fight between a pitbull and a wolverine, would look like a pitbull fighting a shih-tzu.

Answer by Pow
Submitted on 5/14/2006
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My pit is a real friendly dog,I bet he could kill the wolverine and rip the throat outta mr.coolins or enybody alike at the same time, and then go back to his normal dog self. funny thing is he lets my girls cats punk'em It was'nt until they started messin with his food ,then he threw them around like ragg dolls and I had to save them.Or else be in big trouble with my girl.I love my pit more than most humans,and would pick his life over theirs eny day of the week.Ive seen him kill rabbits,and other small game,but the biggest thing Ive seen him go round and round with is a bull ,I ran down to the neighbors ranch and pulled him out.he had a broken rib and a cut. the bull had blood coming from his neck chest and back legs .they were both fine... but if it came down to it he probably would ware him down and killed it.If my dog lost, me and my dogs brother would be eatting steaks for a few weeks.....Im proud of him but,I would rather him try something less risky or have me there to back him up!!!

Answer by kambats
Submitted on 5/19/2006
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listen people, in relatively same size animals the only way you can tell who is stronger is only by arranging hundreds of fights in different locations. its like the old question which is stronger a lion or a tiger, it depends on the situation. a pit will never take down a cougar a puma or a bear, never ever, do you know why? because wild animals r usually better fighters than domestic animals, now regarding the wolf thing, there is no way to tell which is stronger ok? it depends on the size and the aggressiveness of the animals. if you ask me dogs are a bunch of wimps, each and every one, if you want a real killer than take a cat, cats r designed to kill larger animals than themselves, that is why 15 kilo cat (otsalot for example) can hunt wolves dogs and even small gators, cats r killers dogs r runners that is the different between the two.

Answer by Ratel
Submitted on 6/8/2006
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I don't know much about pit bulls, but I do know a lot about honey badgers, and I think a wolverine is sort of a not-so-tough version. Think either a wolverine or a pit bull could do this? "There appear to be no natural predators on adult ratels, which itself is evidence of how formidable this animal is, for it weighs hardly more than a jackal. A lion was recorded as having killed one, but there were signs of a terrific struggle (Stevenson-Hamilton 1947). In another encounter between these species, 3 ratels took a kill away from 3 subadult and 4 half-grown lions (Cowie 1966). Another indication of the ratel'sstrength and truculence (predisposition to fighting aggressively) is the fact that one that entered a steel live trap escaped by tearing the end to pieces with its claws, then continued to mangle the trap with its teeth."

Answer by Liam
Submitted on 6/18/2006
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I'd say I agree with Sally. Although it IS wrong to battle your animals like that, unless the Pit Bull were protecting family (like it's owner's kids), I doubt it could even get CLOSE to a wolverine! Wolverines are known as the MOST VICIOUS ANIMAL IN THE WORLD! They're related to skunks, weasels, and badgers, and I'm not sure about the other two, but I've heard badgers can be pretty nasty. Imagine a badger, but about 2-4 times the size, and more closely resembling a small bear; multiply its ferocity, strength, and speed by about 10; now you have an idea what a wolverine could do to a Pit Bull. And to all the people saying "yea, a Pit Bull could beat a WOLF", the question had NOTHING TO DO WITH WOLVES! A wolf is a totally different animal, like a wild dog. The names may sound similar, but wolverines will chase packs of wolves away from their kills. I wouldn't even TRY pitting any domestic animal against a wild animal much stronger than a squirrel or a rabbit, let alone a wolverine. So all those mistaking it for a wolf, do some research. Yes, if the Pit Bull were protecting its family, it might have enough ferocity to chase off (or possibly even kill) a lone wolverine, but even if the dog won it'd die soon after from its injuries. Why wish that fate on any animal that isn't causing harm? If the dog is vicious, by all means let it face a wolverine and learn about being vicious from the true master; if the dog's friendly and loving like some have said a Pit Bull can be (and I know Corgis are like that - I have a Corgi that even makes squirrels seem feral and vicious by comparison. LOL), then I'd sooner face the wolverine myself to protect the dog - human ingenuity would triumph over brute strength, since the same strategy a wolverine uses against its natural enemies (bears and wolves) would be its downfall. And someone mentioned having what could be called a "pet wolverine"... I have to wonder how one would accomplish that - taming such a creature would be a lot of hard work. And all the preachers talking about how wrong the thought of it is should think about this: first, it's the Internet and freedom of speech is one thing, but I don't know ANYONE who likes preaching, whether it's law or religion; second, it was a hypothetical question of theories and thoughts on what the outcome would be, not how right or wrong it'd be to find out. As for what I think the outcome would be, it'd depend mostly on each one's reasons - a wolverine's reasons would be survival, as said before, but why does the Pit Bull want to fight the wolverine in this scenario? I'd say the dog would end up a bloody mess, then probably a meal... and for a wolverine to make friends with another animal except one of its own family (even unrelated wolverines are considered enemies at times) is something I have to see to believe... but I doubt any dog could beat an animal that chases entire PACKS of wolves away from their meals. Besides, the wolverine would just roll on its back, get under the dog, and have easy access to the "kill zones" (throat and underbelly - the weakest points of every land-dwelling animal I know of), making it a quick fight. You might see a cat use a similar strategy, but dogs fight better on their feet than in a submissive roll onto their backs.

Answer by PITBULL & WOLVERINES
Submitted on 6/23/2006
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I HAVE A PITBULL NAMED BANDIT HE'S ABOUT 60LBS AND I WOULD NEVER FIGHT HIM BUT ONE DAY I WAS WALKING HIM ON THE TRAILS NEAR OUR HOUSE AND HE STARTED SMELLING THE AIR AND IT SMELLED LIKE A SKUNK WAS AROUND SO I TURN TO THE SIDE TRAIL BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT BANDIT SPRAYED JUST AHEAD OF US I HEARD SOME GROWLING SO I STOPPED BUT BANDIT STARTED TO GROWL AND BARK NOT MORE THEN ABOUT 3 YARDS IN FRONT OF US WAS A WOLVERINE EATING ON A DEAD DEER I PULL ON BANDITS LEAD AND WE GOT OUT OF THERE BUT I WOULD HAVE TO SAY I WAS SCARED I WAS GOING TO LOSE MY BEST FRIEND IF THEY FOUGHT AND I'M GLAD THE WOLVERINE WAS MORE INTERESTED IN EATING THEN US IT JUST WANTED US TO LEAVE AND WE DID VERY FAST.

Answer by last
Submitted on 7/27/2006
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you are all arguing over something very stupid, it will not happen, and wild animals act differently than domestic animals like pits. a bear may be driven off by a wolverine theres videos showing this, the wolverine will not kill a bear, but the bear knows it is not worth it to suffer very bad wounds which he would, wolverines are the strongest and best fighters pound for pound, tasmanian devils are also up there with them ur placing a dog against wild animals that have to fight to survive, stupid question the answer should be quite simple the wild animal will win. also about the bite strength, rotts tend to have the strongest bite strength out of dogs, hyenas are way higher than all of the dogs by several hundred psi crocodiles have by far the highest bite strength of any animal

Answer by steffanie
Submitted on 8/17/2006
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let me start off by saying i have had pitbulls for years, and have a 2 1/2 year old and a 9 month old son. now, first off, for the IDIOT who commented about pitbulls jaws locking, SHUT UP, it's a scientifically proven fact that pitbulls jaws are no different than any other dogs, and they CAN NOT lock. the only difference between pitbulls is the amount of muscle, and typically how they're trained. any dog will hold on no matter what (your so called jaw locking) if it doesn't want to let go! (see http://www.badrap.org/rescue/myths.cfm or http://experts.about.com/q/Pit-Bulls-3343/Lock-jaw.htm) secondly, any person who owns a pitbull that will attack anyone other than a robber or someone who shows a threat is a shame to man-kind and is only making the rep for pitbulls even worst than it really is. anyone who owns the dog out of love, would want their dog (or their breed) to be viewed as the best dog ever. finally, a pitbull raised right will fight to the death, just like any other dog, to defend what they LOVE, they're not trained to do it. they don't want to go out looking for a fight, only pitbulls who are trained to do that. i think the greatest pitbulls ever raised will do whatever they can do to protect their family, and nothing more. no killing just to kill, only protecting their loved ones. with that said, the question about the wolverine is the stupidest and most immature question i've ever heard.

Answer by Brainy
Submitted on 8/17/2006
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The adult male wolverine eats the pitbull for lunch, digs a hole seven feet deep to preserve the remains, then digs it out to finish it off for dinner. No joke, the wolverine is vastly stronger than the pitbull, pound for pound, and when they "wrestle" trying to take each other down for the kill the wolverine will dig his five inch claws so deep into the pitbull that the pit's bones will be sticking out. If they go face-to-face, teeth to teeth, the wolverine wins again. Wolverines can crunch right through bone with ease, like a hyena does. In about three seconds the wolverine will take the pit's leg off, or his entire muzzle, or simply rip his neck apart. Wolverines can dig 7 feet down into frozen tundra with their five inch irretractable claws, to hide carcasses for later eating. They travel up to 70 miles a day in the most severe mountainous areas, hence they are literally tireless. If two wolves are eating a kill the wolverine will simply walk into them and take the kill away; the wolves will not fight. Wolverines have been documented to run smack into a whole pack of powerful sled dogs and kill or wound them. Wolverines will kill small bears and eat them, (smaller females or young ones). Wolverines will fight with any bear, including grizzlies, or any cougar or alpha wolf; and they will sometimes kill them, or wound them BADLY before being killed themselves. Most often though, the other large predators will just leave their kill to the wolverine rather than risk severe injury fighting it. Wolverines can take down bull elk and moose and kill and eat them. They will crawl up the tallest tree in the forst to eat the eggs or chicks of huge falcons and eagles; and they will withstand the ferocious attacks of the mother eagles/hawks as though being attacked by a mosquito, (I have seen this on video). Though a pitbull is a powerful, fearless, ferocious fighter, a wolverine is simply in an altogether different class of beast. The African version of the wolverine, (the honey badger), has been well documented to chase female lions away from their kills, or kill the lion if she chooses to fight. Most often though, the lionesses will just walk away from the approaching group of honey badgers. So the pitbull is just lunch for the adult male wolverine, and probably a quick lunch at that.

Answer by acer
Submitted on 8/20/2006
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first of all i think this is kind of rediculous. i do not own a pitbull. i own little tiny dogs. they can be dangerous feirce little dogs, but i have no right to say how well it would put up to a pitbull. because i do not own a pitbull. i don't know what pitbulls are capable of or how feirce they can naturally be. because i don't hang around with a pitbull. it is like people who try to keep weed elegalized. they hate it and think off everything they have read on the internet to get people not to smoke it. but they have no right! becAuSE they have never experiened it before. and sure there is the one person that has experienced it and disagrees, just like that distictive person who owns the Wolverine. what i am saying here is that you can develope an opinion by reading stories and things on the internet, but until the day that you experience how nice, and also how mean both animals can be you can not 100% be sure that your pitbull can take down (not every, because i can garentee that not every Wolverine is the same weight and size) that wolverine. and people who fight dogs make me sick, same with people who sell weed. they are both elegal, and both effecting the dogs, and the people who they sell the drug too. if it is a way too make money then shame on you! and to try to weigh and see how big and feirce the average pitbull and the average wolverine is is impossible. there are new ones, different ones, deformed ones, sronger ones, ones that they can't catch, bigger ones, and heavier ones being born every day! so you people should agree to disagree, because if you're walking your pitbull and a wolverine attacks it whether the pitbull would win or not is inconceivable. thank you.

Answer by dwright
Submitted on 8/26/2006
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i like both these animals.the pitbull, like the wolverine, is very strong and powerful. i am afraid to say to all of you who are for the pit, its gonna get hurt...bad. out of all the fights that pit might have been in, it seriously wouldn't know what hit it. doesn't matter how much you worked on training that pit. this is a ferocious wild animal that is naturally born to fight to the end we're talking about. the wolverine is the most ferocious fighter in the world. it has been known to drive off a pack of wolves by itself and carry its prey up to 3 times its size over miles. i believe a wolverine could handle a pit bigger than it no problem....more like just another kill of the day, especially if the pitbull encountered it saving a carcass it had just found. if the pit got its jaws on the wolverines neck then it could have a good chance, but the likes of that happening are seldom by the wolverine's level of competition of fierceness. there is a good possibility the wolverine would get to the pit's body and disembowell it with its claws before the pit would even have time to react. the wolverine is at the top of fierce fighting.

Answer by Wolverine/Dog Farmer
Submitted on 9/13/2006
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Ok most comments above were very interesting. Except the ignorant people many had intelligent things to say. Why people fight animals for entertainment I'll never get but to answer your qwestion the Wolverine owns the Pit Bull every time. Some people say the average weight of a Wolverine is 25-35 pounds. Not true mine over the years have weighed between 35-75 pounds mainly about 55-60 as an average. My pits weighed roughly a lil more. I also raised deer, moose, wolves and boxers. The Wolverines were the most impossible to raise, the Alpha male would kill the other wolverine challengers so I had to seperate the onry ones. hahaha they all are but they were all friendly with me. Well I found out the hard way when the lil buggers chewed through my steel linked fence into the property. Lets just say the did not kill my wolves because they can be herded in packs so they left that alone but my boxer and pit land were more appealing. One of my boxers was gutted before they took him out. Was a shame because they were such good dogs. Now are different animals, it took all of them to chase off the Wolverine and never saw that one again. Another one got into the pit bull area where i keep them seperated. Poor poor pit he was about 90 pounds before the fight and 45 after. Gutted again and his giant skull had holes in it, i think it ate some brain. I put that wolverine down. A few years later the same thing happened again, the boxers were safe i seperated their farm on the other side of the main farm with a better wall enclosure. This time it was 3 wolverines that got out and i still dont know how may have been teenagers tamperin but the gates were opened. 1 wolverine killed a deer and was eatin it when i got their so i tranquilized him, the other got into the pit bulls again and killed 2 of them. Disembolwed both of them very disgusting. the third didnt attack anything thank god was just sittin in a tree. So if you ask me a lil doggie dont stand a chance against the wolverine. They have 5-8 inch razor sharp claws on usable hands, dogs paws only hold them up. The teeth are roughly the same. But power goes to the Wolverine is a nasty lil animal

Answer by Prosaic Stoic
Submitted on 9/18/2006
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When I had been to Atlantis (UT), I saw there a legitimate sport involving different species that would fight each other to the death. Apparently, over time, only one type of fight found any lasting patronage among the populace. These were fights involved pitting delinquent humans against the various animals that those delinquents had raised specifically to fight. Not surprisingly, most Humans lost. Whoever won was finished in the subsequent rounds. The winning animals were then donated to loving households to be weaned away from a lifetime of abuse. Sadly some had been too badly abused for relocation and had to be put down. But before they were put down, they would have a go at how many ever more delinquent humans that they could finish off. You would be surprised at how many animals loved to get into an unarmed (barring claws and fangs) contest with Humans. This list includes dogs, bulls, cats, cockroaches, mantids, cockerels, wolverines, mountain lions, wolves, the list goes on. In fact, barring earthworms, I guess no species is spared the barbaric torture and desecration that humans are capable of doling out. Side shows included calculating the bite pressure of humans while being throttled by a leash and goaded by a pit bull nipping at their b**ls. In all it was a wonderful trip. So wonderful that I was reluctant to come back. I thought I will share this with all of you. You would be welcome in Atlantis.

Answer by knowitall
Submitted on 9/28/2006
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I seen a show on T.V. called Killer Instinct, with host Rob Bredl. On this show it was said that the Honey Badger is, pound for pound, the most fierce, dangerous and brave animal in the entire animal kingdom. One many occasions it was said that the Honey Badger will nearly always fend it's kill from Hyena's and other sorts, even lions. Whether or not the lion really truly cares to steal the kill is another question, however, it is still a case of the honey badger scaring away lions and nearly killing hyen's. That said, the APBT is NOT pound for pound the greatest fighting machine, game or not, so quit saying that it is, it's annoying. I have seen my English Bull Terrier, not game bred, nearly slaughter a APBT. I broke the fight up because it would've been cruel otherwise, but that pit bull was saying his prayers at the time. So in no way shape or form could a APBT kill a wolverine. Honestly people, watch a documentary on the wolverine in action, it's truely incredible. Those claws alone would be absolutely devistating towards a dog. It wouldn't matter if the APBT had the wolverine by the throat at this time, those claws would tear the dog to shreds. I've done my research on dogs, and fully understand that "Fighting dogs/breeds" used to, at one point, fight other animals in baiting events. But a wolverine does not want to fight a pit bull for no specific reason. Perhaps that is why pit bulls used to win. But in the wild, a wolverine would be absolutely shattering. That all said, these two we speak of, live in competely different habitats, neither is at home with other. That also may be a deciding factor. Why don't want of you tough guys get yourself a three year-old wolverine, and a three year-old APBT, fight them, video tape it, and post it on LimeWire so I can watch.

Answer by mongrel
Submitted on 10/9/2006
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firstly i got no friggin idea y ppl think so highly bout pitbull 2 of my neibours pittyz broke in thru the fence and wer bout 2 attack my lil son i took out my girl maxi cross rottweiler cross german shepherd out she had one of the pitbullys mauled around the neck and face and it just ran down the street in frite bleeding and she had the other pitty on its back thats wen i jumped in and raped up tha pitbulls jaws with a shirt :D so u c it is possible my girl is a heavy one weiginh at nearly 55 kg, believe me it was an ugly bloody fite. and back 2 the question no i dont think a pitty could bring down a wolverine let alone any wild animal like that and by the way rottweilers hav stronger jaws then a pitbull!