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Question by willycox
Submitted on 11/6/2003
Related FAQ: Gasoline FAQ - Part 4 of 4
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what is the function of the egr valve? Can it be repaired or does it need to be replaced?

 
 

Answer by Ryan Goat
Submitted on 11/19/2003
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The EGR stands for Exhaust Gas Recirculation.  Exhaust gas is routed back into the combustion chamber because the exhausted air is much hotter than the intake air (try touching a muffler sometime).  By sending warmer gas into the combustion chamber, the air/fuel mix does not have to do as much work to heat up, and your engine runs more efficiently.  

  As far as fixing it yourself, it's an electronic part.  I'd say you're better off having a mechanic or experienced friend do it for you.

 

Answer by Tom L
Submitted on 12/20/2003
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EGR Theory.  EGR serves one purpose and one purpose only.  That purpose is to reduce Oxides of Nitrogen (NOx).  Undernormal combustion, Nitrogen(N2)Oxygen (O2) in the air and Hydrocarbons (HC) in the fuel combind into water(H2O) Carbon dioxide (CO2) and the Nitrogen remains unchanged.  Under very hot combustion temperatures, the Nitrogen reacts with the other two byproducts and forms Nitrogen oxide (NO).  After being released into the atmosphere, it picks up another Oxygen and becomes Nitrogen dioxide (NO2).  In the presence of sunlight,
it combines with other compounds like Hydrocarbons and forms Smog.  Since exhaust gas is inert (very stable) it doesn’t burn again.  So by being introduced into
the combustion chamber, it will lower combustion chamber temps enough so that
the Nitrogen doesn’t react with the other compounds and is passed unchanged out
the tailpipe thus not contributing to smog.  Now, since exhaust gas doesn’t burn, it
doesn’t exactly help with combustion.  At higher RPM’s, this really isn’t noticable,
but at idle, the reintroduction of exhaust gas will cause a very rough idle and can
cause stalling if to much is introduced into the combustion chamber

 

Answer by Bob
Submitted on 3/27/2004
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I currently have a 2000 sl and just recently my Service Engine Light came on. I was advised the code was P1404 when I had it checked. Doing a cross-reference of the code it indicated something to do withe an EGR Valve. What basically is the function of this valve and by ignoring the indicator can I do damage to my car?

 

Answer by Lisa
Submitted on 5/7/2004
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I have a 2000 sl too and my SES light keeps coming on and I only have 13,000 miles on it and I took it to the dealership and they told me they have to replace the fuel tank, is that associated with the EGR valve?  The expense is almost $500, I too, want to know what damage can it do to my car if I don't repair quickly?

 

Answer by MIchael
Submitted on 5/8/2004
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I have a 97 Ford Taurus. The service engine light keeps on and indicates EGR valve related. In the mean time, I feel shaking when the car runs between 45-55 miles. Does the shaking has anything to do with EGR valve? I just did wheel balance and the car is 90K mile.  Thanks  

 

Answer by Bubba
Submitted on 5/10/2004
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I have 94 Chevy Blazer, with the 4.3 liter Vortec. One day I was coming off the highway and had to press on the brakes with alot of force, then the SES light came on and it idled roughly. I took it to a mechanic and they fixed but recently it happened again, it did at about 55 MPH but it does not have a rough idle any more but the light is still on. I am 16 and I do not have a lot of money is there an easy fix(CHEAP!!!!!!!).

 

Answer by Brandon
Submitted on 5/24/2004
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It is possibly to "Clean" an EGR valve.
Since is simply pulls exhaust gasses from your exhaust and introduces them back into your engine's intake air it only makes sense that eventually it will become clogged or stuck open/closed from the carbon deposits.
It you remove the EGR from the vehicle you can either just spray it out or let it soak in a shallow bath of carburetor cleaner.  DO NOT soak the electronic piece if yours is electronically controlled.  This cleaning should fix it up for a while.  It's a lot cheaper for a $1.99 can of cleaner than it is for any EGR valve.

 

Answer by DirtyTbird
Submitted on 5/25/2004
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People, people, people, stop worrying.  I drive a 92 ford tbird, and it runs great the only problem is that the check engine light comes on randomly.  When that happens chances are its a egr problem or an 02 problem.  Leaving your EGR (if it is what is the problem) wont do anything and is absolutely NO threat to your vehicle at all.  Just good luck with an emissions test here in Ontario.  They cost around 100 bucks Canadian (installed) thats what ford will quote.  The only thing is the random check engine light which is annoying.  If you are really bothered by it go to walmart, and rent (buy it then return it right after) a code checker, for your make of vehicle.  It will confirm that it is an egr problem or whatever the problem may be.  Either way if its egr its not worth the money having it repaired, try cleaning it as the process is described above.  

 

Answer by Cute
Submitted on 5/30/2004
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I'm doing research on Emission from Natural Gas Engine where I use Flow Reversal method in the catalytic convertor to increase the temperature inorder to oxidize methane.. My circuit requires 4 valves and all the valves have to withstand the temperatureof around 600 C.  I've been trying to get from the market but really find it difficult to get one. Can anyone of you suggest please?
Thanking you
Regards
Cute

 

Answer by Carnuck
Submitted on 6/1/2004
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Check with outfits that do Natural Gas servicing. The stainless steel or Stellite valves should work for your application. I ran mine with the exhaust glowing cherry red no problem (paper ignited when it touched the pipe, so I made a doubled aluminum heat shield with fan driven cooling)

 

Answer by Mark
Submitted on 6/4/2004
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Hey, if anybody gets this, i own an 88 chevy spectrum.  I was thinking about getting a new EGR valve, however i will try the cleaning on it first.  As of right now, the car is blowing a little black smoke, which makes me wonder if it would be the EGR valve.  I know i need an exhaust manifold gasket, because it has a leak.  any suggestions?  stflatliner@hotmail.com

 

Answer by memyselfandi
Submitted on 6/13/2004
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hey i have a 90 olds cutlass supreme with the 3.1 v6.  it has been acting up on several different occasions. it doesn't do it all the time but will mainly when i first start it up. it idles fine but when i press the gas it wants to stall or quit.  it will do this in park or any gear.  it kinda smells out the tail pipe too.  i was told it could be the map sensor or the egr valve.  i replaced the map sensor but with no resolve.  then somebody told me to clean the egr valve out.  i removed it & there is like 3 parts to it.   i cleaned all the black carbon & crap off these parts & put it back together.  it seems to run good now, but still kinda smelly.  i might pick up one at the junk yard.  any ideas??  memyselfandi988@hotmail.com

 

Answer by Tim e
Submitted on 6/28/2004
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I have a '95 tercel-the engine light came on the other day and I freaked so I payed the $80 for the diagnostics and was told it was the egr valve-in the meantime, the engine light went out on its own. Should I still replace the valve?What will it hurt if I don't?

 

Answer by Duston
Submitted on 6/30/2004
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I own a 94 Chevy Blazer 4.3 V6, and I've taken it across the country with the EGR going out on me only twice.  Now it goes out anytime I take it out of town, or even in town.  I've gotten to the point where I can pull it off myself, remove the tiny chip of carbon and put it back on.  I've talked to mechanics and I've had the engine blown out to hopefully clear the carbon but it's really pointless, the problem remains.  So in the end it's not the EGR valve that is the problem you could throw it against a brick wall and it wont break or damage your engine, it's the carbon that gets lodged in it.  At least thats the story in the 4.3 Vortec V6. It's a common problem in them and I think it's a ridiculous flaw that was overlooked by the manufacturer

 

Answer by jerry
Submitted on 7/5/2004
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I have a 2000 Isuzu Trooper with 40,000 miles on it. My check engin light came on last night. I took it to Autozone for there free computer check(there great for doing this). During the check, the clerk said my problem was the EGR valve. He carries them all day long for $99.00. I took it to Isuzu and was told there price was $190.00 , and they would need to do a upper engin cleaning also( $200.00). Is this necessary?

 

Answer by DB
Submitted on 7/8/2004
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How EGR systems work The EGR valve recirculates exhaust into the intake stream. Exhaust gases have already combusted, so they do not burn again when they are recirculated. These gases displace some of the normal intake charge. This chemically slows and cools the combustion process by several hundred degrees, thus reducing NOx formation.

The design challenge The EGR system of today must precisely control the flow of recirculated exhaust. Too much flow will retard engine performance and cause a hesitation on acceleration. Too little flow will increase NOx and cause engine ping. A well-designed system will actually increase engine performance and economy. Why? As the combustion chamber temperature is reduced, engine detonation potential is also reduced. This factor enabled the software engineers to write a more aggressive timing advance curve into the spark timing program. If the EGR valve is not flowing, onboard diagnostics (OBD) systems will set a code and the power control module (PCM) will use a backup timing curve that has less advance to prevent engine ping. Less timing advance means less performance and economy. Do your customer a favor and fix those EGR codes that you may have previously deemed as unimportant.


 

Answer by Nate
Submitted on 7/9/2004
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I am looking at purchasing a 1992 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme w/ 3.1 V6. The lady who owns it said the only known problem was the EGR valve. Checked it at Schucks and the part itself is $325. Is it something that has to be done or does cleaning it really help. Not sure I want to buy the car if I have to purchase a $300 part right off the bat.

 

Answer by Dave
Submitted on 7/10/2004
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My 96 Lumina'sSES light keeps coming on.  It's the EGR valve.  I've cast about on the Internet, and it seems that it can cause maybe three real problems.  1.  Smog--your car puts out more pollution.  That is a given.  If your EGR valve is faulty its almost certainly doing this.   2.  It could cause some skipping on accelration or problems with idling as noted here, but probably not.  3.  It is more likely that you could develop an engine knock from the air/fuel mixture becoming to hot "ping" or "detonation".  

If you want to drop $400-500 bucks to fix the amount of pollution your car puts out that's fine...a little weird, but fine.  My EGR has been out for three months and I haven't experienced problems 2 or 3.  However, I would say that 2 would be annoying, and 3 after a while would become dangerous to your engine.  

My advice is that if your budget is tight, wait.  IT seems you could potentially drive a long while without ever developing any real problems.  

Hope this helps some.  

 

Answer by Erci
Submitted on 7/10/2004
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Well,

I just went to AutoZone after finding my car idling rough and stalling when putting it into gear.

It was the EGR valve and it was getting NO air flow so I bought a new one for 40$!!

I don’t know why all of yours cost so much but I have a 1995 Thunderbird LX, maybe because yours are all more digitally controlled or something of that nature.

IT WILL CAUSE YOUR CAR TO IDLE ROUGH AND STALL WHEN PUTTING IT INTO GEAR.

Thanks,
Eric

 

Answer by kris
Submitted on 7/15/2004
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my mom is having trouble getting her 86 maxima to pass smog. the smog report came back and it said the EGR valve was faulty. so we went and found a new one for 80 bucks put it in took it in to have it smogged and its still "faulty" well i tested it out and everything and its getting lift so if it gets lift it gets vacuum right? what else could be the problem with it?

 

Answer by Shaka
Submitted on 7/21/2004
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It does work.  I have a 99 Pontiac, and my Service Engine Soon light came on, I got the code P1404, and I cleaned the EGR valve with carbon cleaner, and it is all good now.  Don't go to a dealer, THEY WILL SOAK YOU LIKE A MUDDY DOG!

 

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