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Answer by Jane
Submitted on 1/9/2004
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I am new at this! I am looking for 1 or 2 yorkie males. I have already experienced the joy of yorkie companionship. Teddy was our rescued yorkie (patient) who miraculously survived to be 15 yrs. old in no pain and very happy, thanks to our veterinarian. Champ lived to be 1 month short of 18 years old in perfect health. He passed away shortly after his chum, Teddy. Currently we have an 18-month-old yorkie male, Oliver. We are looking for a chum or chums for Ollie. I would like to contact someone with a website so that I could view available yorkies and get info on mom and breeder. I would like him to have a short snout and ears that stand-up. I am interested in a yorkie that is 9-18 months old. I live in Michigan but I am willing to travel out of state if in the Midwest. Looking forward to hearing from someone. Thanks JANE

Answer by STOP PUPPY MILLS!
Submitted on 1/12/2004
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Please stay away from Diva Pup AKA divapup.com! Do NOT buy a puppy from them! And never buy a puppy from a pet store! You WILL be supporting the tragedy of puppy mills! For more information visit: http://www.hua.org/Prison/Puppymills.html If you would like more information about my own awful experience with Diva Pup, or about puppy mills, please feel free to email me at pcmsinc@hotmail.com. My advice to you is if you're looking for a purebred puppy first contact your local club (or even the national club) for the breed for a referral to a reputable breeder who does it for the love of the breed, not the money! Or email me and I'll help you find a purebred puppy from a loving and honest breeder...and I will do this for FREE!

Answer by Divapup
Submitted on 1/18/2004
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My name is Elizabeth Mandarino and I am the owner of Divapup com. Divapup is a network of breeders around the US. All breeders within the Divapup network MUST breed to the same standards that I follow....any breeder which does not breed to my standard is disallowed within the network. We are so proud of our breeders and their puppies that Divapup guarantees each and every one of them for 3 years genetically and 14 days for any health problem. Our reputation supersedes us and we can provide as many references as you would need along with the name of the attending veterinarian of the puppy you wish to purchase. These puppies are our passion. Please visit us at www.divapup.com. We would be glad to answer any questions or misconceptions you may have. Yours truly, Elizabeth Mandarino

Answer by gh
Submitted on 2/5/2004
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PD---What state are you in? I am in Ill.-does that help you? My puppy is now 16 weeks old and weighs 3.5 pounds. My vet tell me he is very healthy. Have you looked on line and seen how CRAZY these breeders are with their prices??? PLUS you are supposed to pick a puppy without even SEEING it first!!!! And like Cindy above said---you have to SEE your puppy, play with him! It's a FEELING thing!! You have to be compatible--it's not a COUCH we're buying--it's a living thing!! I totally don't understand how you can buy a puppy, sight unseen, and then put the poor thing on an airplane!!! My puppy is sitting at my feet right now--he and I "met" when he was 8 weeks old. My family went back and purchased him for me for my birthday as a surprise. Anyway, I would LOVE to give you this lady's name if you are anywhere near Northern Ill. Let me know, o.k.? Or I can ask her to contact you..

Answer by gh
Submitted on 2/15/2004
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I was looking on aol search yorkshire terriers. I found an excellent site! Not sure what page but it's called "Get advice you can trust". It's written by Dr. Martin Goldstein, DVM. Scroll down to Yorkshire terrier review/he says there are no such thing as teacup yorkies, and why a yorkie under 4 pounds is not a good idea! I found his info very interesting and will be getting his book. Hope before anyone else pays mega dollars for a yorkie from these expensive breeders, they read an expert's advice and opinions!! No one has to pay so much for a puppy. You do have to be careful where you buy your puppy--but the fancy names mean nothing. I haven't heard of a breeder yet that can guarantee in writing the size of their puppies--or that is willing to!!

Answer by Beanie431@cs.com
Submitted on 2/15/2004
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Yorkshire Terriers are one of the smallest breeds of dogs. They range from one lb ( which is the recorded smallest in the breed )to an average of 7 lbs.. Mini,teacups,or anyother discription of the breed, is just a way of trying to discribe a smaller dog of the breed and a way to advertise. I have two Yorkies.The male weighs almost five lbs., and the female weighs two lbs. 2 ozs. Just two weeks ago they had three puppies. The puppies will range somewhere between mom and dad. The cost of a puppy is also determined by the cost of delivery. In our case, the puppies were delivered by cissarian. This is a costly proceedure and adds to the price of each puppy. Understand, that I can make an educated guess at the weight of a puppy, but there is no way to guarinty it. My puppies range in cost from $1200.00 to $1700.00 in price. Also remember that pets are always somewhat cheaper than owning the breeding rights along with your pet. Good luck in your search...

Answer by Anna
Submitted on 2/19/2004
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Can I get some help here?! I've been looking all over the place, and it seems that there aren't any breeders in my area at all. I've also been looking online, and the prices are RIDICULOUSLY HIGH. I love Yorkies and would pay good money for them, but come on, it gets to a point where breeders are pricing them TOO high. Well, I'm interested in finding a tiny female Yorkie. I'm from the Bay Area, in California, for those who didn't know. If anyone can help me find a pup, or at least a place where I can find one, that would be greatly appreciated. I'm willing to travel, so preferably, I'd like some place close, since I would NOT like my Yorkie to be shipped to me. I'd like to be spending less than $1000 dollars, but less than $800 would be great also. If anyone has any advice, some directories, I'd appreciate it if you could e-mail me at Chack99@aol.com.

Answer by gh
Submitted on 3/1/2004
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HHHHMMMM!!! Keep checking this sight for an answer to my above questions that I put to breeders...how can you LOVE a puppy MORE than money when you can put them on a plane for a trip across country----and is the money difference between a "toy" yorkie and a "teacup" yorkie returned if that puppy becomes too big for the so-called "teacup" status and the mega dollars it brings?? AND why they are breeding these tiny little females that cannot possibly give birth on their own!! Then they say they have to charge us so much money to cover the cost of a c-section!!!!!!!!!!! That doesn't sound like a caring animal lover to me!!If we just would all stop paying these HIGH prices, they would be forced to GET REAL!!!!!!

Answer by LI
Submitted on 3/25/2004
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As an exhibitor and breeder of Yorkshire Terriers would love to input this conversation. Never ever buy a puppy from the internet. If you want a purebred Yorkie find local dog clubs or AKC (Canadian Kennel Club in Canada) dog shows to find your breeders. The Yorkshire Terrier Club of America has a breeder referral list and also excellent information on their Frequently Asked Questions page. They are at www.ytca.org .It will tell you all about 'teacups', that they are actually an undersized Yorkie and high risk for health problems, and that reputable breeders do not breed females under 5 lbs in size nor do they breed to produce tiny. Caesareans are still a possibility but a reputable breeder is not in it solely to make money anyway. Costs of caesareans are part of being a breeder and never should you pay more for a puppy because the mother delivered by caesarean section. Reputable breeders are trying to improve their own lines, produce show dogs worthy of carrying on their line, and any puppies that are not going to be show dogs are lovely healthy pups that are sold for pet under stringent non-breeding contracts. I never ship puppies, must approve the buyer and family, give a lifetime guarantee for any genetic problems that may pop up and require by contract that at anytime in the lifetime of the puppy should it not be able to be kept for any reason, it is to be returned to me. Some genetic problems do not show up until the dog is 5 or 6 years old. No Yorkie pups should ever be sold under 12 weeks of age and if particularly small, I do not sell them until they are at least 2 1/2 lbs which may not be until they are 5 months old. I do not breed for less than 4 lbs as you will find that most of them that are less than that have a high risk of a health problem, that's why they are that small. I have never produced one less than 3 3/4 lbs. Luckily, the two I had at less than 4 lbs turned out healthy. If I ever do have anything less than 3 1/2 lbs full grown I would never sell it for fear it has something wrong. I would be more inclined to give it to a Yorkie friend who already has one of my dogs, if I didn't keep it myself. It would never be used for breeding. Reputable breeders never mass produce puppies just to fill a pet market either, are alway sold Akc registered or if in Canada, Canadian Kennel Club registered not to be confused with the Continental Kennel Club which will register anything. Yes there are reputable breeders out there. We don't take PayPal or credit cards, we're not high profile because we are not in the business to sell puppies.

Answer by Toro
Submitted on 3/26/2004
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Guys, the price is driven by the bloodline of the dog. If you are a regular person like me and don't care about that show crap. You can get a Yorkie for as low as $100.00 I even know of a breeder in Tennessee that will give one away if the poor dog is not show worthy. They are idiots and just care about the money. Don't buy it on the net. they will put it on a box and ship it like an UPS package. The puppies suffer a lot that way and sometimes they don't make it. Yes, they will send you another puppy but that's not my point. There are breeders all over. You just need to look around. Don't worry about the show worthiness of the dog. I haven't seen an ugly Yorkie in my life. You can buy any Yorkie and that dog is going to make you happy. The only thing you need to make sure is that it is healthy and you will know that from a Vet. not from a certificate. It is true that the "teacup" style are not sound dogs and tend to have all kinds of health problems. People breed these kind of dogs for the money but it is not the right thing to do.

Answer by gh
Submitted on 3/26/2004
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Li----I cannot believe it!! Finally a response from a breeder-and one that truly loves the breed. I am not a breeder but common sense tells me that a female smaller than 4-5 pounds is only being bred to make the breeder money on the so-called "teacup" puppies. I am so glad that you responded and people can see that there are honest breeders out there who do not dress the puppies up in doll clothes, pose them for a picture and put that picture on the internet and then ship the poor little babies on an airplane!!! I wish NO ONE would buy from these breeders!!! I still don't see a response to the question about refunding money to the purchaser who pays for a "teacup" and it grows to be a "toy"!!! They jump into the converstion to advertise their websites--but not to answer our legitimate questions!! HOORAY to you for standing up against them and telling us what we all need to know. I have been told often that the yorkies that are under 4-5 pounds can have serious health problems. The breeder I purchased my guy from gave me a lifetime genetic guarantee--you hear that rarely!! Thanks again from a yorkie lover!!!!

Answer by Li
Submitted on 3/26/2004
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One of my posts seems to be missing, didn't get to the boards. What I had said was that prices for pet puppies are not driven by bloodlines when you are working with reputable breeders. My pedigrees on all my puppies I am selling for pet under non-breeding contracts are loaded with Champions both Canadian Kennel Club and American Kennel Club. Those pedigrees and Champions have more meaning for me than for anyone else as it indicates to me that my breeding program is working. The puppies I have now have two or three generations of dogs of my own kennel name with Championships plus Champions from the bloodlines I used to produce my line. The bloodlines I have used to produce my own line are all reputable breeders, show their dogs, I know them personally or know them through my network of other exhibitor breeders and have seen many of these dogs in the ring or know breeders who have. The only other people that might be interested in what is on my pedigrees is other show breeders that I approach to use their stud dogs for breeding or for them to approach me to use my stud dogs or if we are interested in buying a new show dog with a different line. As a pet puppy buyer, fact is if you are interested in buying a purebred, you should be very interested in that 'show crap' Breeders that show their dogs are breeding towards the breed standard or trying very hard to. Again, puppies that we know are not going to be show quality are sold as pets to not be used for breeding. These are very nice quality pets, not show dogs. If they were show dogs, they would be kept for our own program or sold to other known experienced show homes. If I don't think my puppy should be used for breeding,then no one else is going to breed it either. Unfortunately, breeders who just breed and don't show their dogs, usually don't know the breed standard and their dogs look less and less like the breed they are supposed to be. I have seen that often enough in my grooming business too. All puppies are cute but once they grow into adults, you'll know whether or not it looks like a Yorkie. Some have come from that type of breeder and aren't bad, but many don't look much like the breed they are supposed to be. I do not know anyone that would sell a pet puppy that is not being kept for the show rings for a cheap price. You must remember that nowadays, crossbreeds aka mutts are fetching $500 and more. Don't get me wrong, I don't care if someone wants a crossbreed but I am rather annoyed with breeders that misrepresent them as 'rare' or 'special'. They aren't nor are they healthier. Most crosses end up with all or most of the problems that exist in the purebreds that were used to create these mixes. I have seen them all in my pet grooming business. As for your question about 'teacup' prices for puppies that end up being 'toy'sized no reputable breeder will sell a puppy in that manner in the first place. All my pet puppies are the same price and I can only give a ballpark idea for size. I do not guarantee for size because it cannot be done most of the time. Actually, prospective buyers that have approached me for 'tiny' or 'teacup' I usually educate then send them packing as I don't want to sell to someone who wants a novelty item. The few I sold that were 3 3/4 lbs and 4 lbs just happened to be small and the people who bought them weren't necessarily looking for small, just wanted a nice Yorkie and that's what I had. I don't want my pet puppies dressed up in clothes and paraded around like a doll either. As a guideline to reputable breeders you might check out sites on the Internet, bear in mind, most reputable breeders only have one breed, two at most. I have Yorkies and it is hard enough for me to do justice to the breed without having a whole bunch of different ones. Last year I had a total of 7 puppies. I sold 3 for pet to good homes, kept 4 for show prospects. One is likely ending up pet quality so will likely sell her this spring. As she is almost 6 months old, I will have her spayed by my Vet to ensure spaying and then look for a home. You can bet I don't make any money at this. I don't want to. I love the Yorkie, love my dogs very much, like to show, and am pleased to be able to provide quality puppies from someone who does care to people looking for a nice pet. And people who bought from me were delighted to find me. I am not special or the only one, we're out there but as we are not in the business of 'selling dogs' you aren't going to find us all over the Internet. We usually have websites for information about the breed, some pictures of our dogs, but never post pictures etc of any puppies currently for sale. We prefer to let you find us and take it from there. We really don't care when we do find a home for a puppy, will keep it until we find just the right one. We also don't have a swack of puppies to sell so have to get rid of what we have to make room for the new ones. Remember that when you see a bunch of puppies for sale on a website. How many dogs does that breeder have? For people who don't live in my area, I can refer to someone with the same ethics etc as I do that is in your area or a lot closer never at any charge. Li

Answer by gh
Submitted on 3/27/2004
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LI---You ARE rare and special to people looking on the internet for a puppy!!!! I know because my brother bred yorkies like YOU do for a long time. The dogs I got from him passed away, each was 15 years old. One was 3# and the other was 9#!!!!! They were half brothers and not bred to be big or small!! Like you said, small puppies HAPPEN, but it shouldn't be done on purpose. They were both healthy, but the smaller one did require more care! You can't guarantee the size of a puppy--so why do these on'linebreeders tell people they can!!?? I'm sorry Yorkiepup, I did visit your website and I do not want to bad mouth your business...it's everyone's choice to buy where they please--but why do you have a terrified little puppy balanced on a soda can!!!!!!! and dressed in doll clothes???? I'm sure you love your dogs but that is a selling ploy--NOt a love for an animal. There is another website that I probably shouldn't mention the name of--it is a NIGHTMARE!! Doll clothes, puppies posed in wagons and baskets, and MANY breeds--small ones shown as "special and rare"!!!! Up to 5,000.00. Those POOR mommy puppies!!! It breaks my heart!! A person who loves their pets has to go IN PERSON to purchase their dog--shouldn't it be a FEELING thing???? How do you know a dog's personality by a picture of it in doll clothes or posed in some other, in MY opinion, cruel manner to make the ad more attractive? You have to talk, play, and interact with many puppies to find the one that fits into your home. Not by a picture on the web, a Paypal payment, and an airplane ride later to find out that your puppy isn't right for your family!!! This is HOPEFULLY a 15 year commitment you are making to love this dog---don't you think you should MEET it first??? Li, I have great respect for you saying what you have with other breeders probably not appreciating it. Teacup, toy, tiny---who cares--get a pet that you can love and not a NOVELTY (to borrow your phrase, Li). My yorkie is curled up on my lap as I write this--and believe me, he fits in with my family because I made sure he would BEFORE he came home!!! How can we get these on-line breeders to STOP unless we just don't buy from them???!!!! Yorkirpup--why do you WANT to get a puppy to only 2#???? I am asking seriously, why do you want to breed such tiny puppies that can have so many problems??? Is there a good reason, other than money? I am NOT being sarcastic, I really would like to know. There is a market for EVERYTHING out in this world--does it mean EVERYTHING has to be provided?--and at what cost?? Li, thanks again

Answer by Li
Submitted on 3/27/2004
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GH it sounds like your brother was one of the reputable ones when he was breeding. Yes, 4lbs can happen, I've had them, didn't sell them until they were 5months or more to make sure they were okay. I have never had one under 3 3/4 lbs but if I did, I would never sell it. I do know of reputable breeders that have had the odd puppy that will obviously be 3 lbs or less and were also reluctant to sell them because of being afraid there is something wrong and we are not going to fob off our problems on someone else. We usually find a home with friends or people with one of our Yorkies if they want it, but don't charge them anything for it. We have them vetted at our expense first to see if anything is showing up but caution the person getting it. On one that will be that small, a bile acid test should definitely be done to see if liver shunt could be there. There aren't tests that can detect everything, sometimes it is a wait and see. We expect them to still keep in touch with us and keep us informed of how it is doing. We don't usually give them to someone that doesn't already have a Yorkie because it is just too hard on the pet person if the puppy has a short life span. But as you asked the previous post of yorkiepup, why are you trying to breed for tiny when reputable websites and Veterinarians will confirm it is a bad idea. The Yorkshire Terrier Club of America established since 1952 and whose members have been show breeders, some for over 40 years and have contributed to the betterment not the detriment of the breed definitely cringe at promoting undersize Yorkies. As for the sites that are selling these poor things for great big bucks obvious to me it is to make money. A guaranteed show dog from a reputable breeder will run about $3000 - $5000 US. You will have to be either an established show breeder or if new, be willing to be mentored by your breeder into the show world. Remember these are supposed to be purebreds where breed standards are involved. If you are buying pet puppies, you still want to be dealing with someone who cares enough about the breed to show their dogs in American Kennel Club shows or Canadian Kennel Club shows in Canada. It shows we care enough to try to maintain the breed standard on our dogs, we know our lines, our pedigrees are full of Champions that we have attained on dogs with our own kennel name and on the dogs that contributed to establishing our line. We know the breeders and dogs in our pedigree personally or through other show breeders. That means we also know whether or not any health problems, genetic or otherwise have turned up and can act accordingly. That's why we give guarantees for genetic health problems for the lifetime of a puppy. Some problems can turn up at 5 or 6 years old or older. Liver shunt for example can be a problem in Yorkies and Maltese. If you don't know your lines, you run a much higher risk. Type Liver Shunt into your browser for all kinds of info about it especially the information and rescue site put together by Terry Shumsky. Buying from a show breeder doesn't mean you are buying a show dog, you won't be. You will be buying a lovely healthy pet puppy that is just not what we want for the show rings and hence do not breed it or want it to be bred by anyone else. Sometimes because they are just too small, too big, color is going to light, topline isn't what we want, none of which is a health issue, just not a show dog. They still always should come with Registration papers transferred to the buyers name, Limited Registration in the AKC system, non-breeding in the Canadian system. Did you know it was illegal to charge extra for registration papers from AKC registered puppies and Canadian Kennel Club registered puppies? Any dog or puppy sold as a purebred must be registerable with either the AKC in US or Canadian Kennel Club in Canada, by law. In Canada, it is Federal jurisdiction with Agriculture Canada under the Animal Pedigree Act. The AKC website can likely tell you what it is in the American Kennel Club. As the costs for all the registration requirements including transfers to the new owners, on a puppy is about $50 for each puppy registered in Canada and about $30 for each puppy registered in the US with AKC, why would hundreds of dollars be charged by some of these people for registration? If you want to make money in dogs, go start a pet grooming service or an elite boarding kennel where you can provide supreme service to people on holidays that have to board their dogs or go get yourself a job. No problem GH, there are many breeders that think like I do, we don't cash in using dogs. We don't take PayPal, no credit cards, no shipping, insist on meeting the buyer personally and expect any buyer to come see us, our dogs and for us to determine if this is the right breed for any purchaser and/or the right time. We have jobs that support ourselves and families and/or spouses that do. We are not commercial breeders. It is very shameful for any breeder to be breeding purebreds that are not in it to the betterment of the breed. On average, most Yorkies do live to be 15 years when you are dealing with breeders that do know their lines and care about what they are doing. It is a buyer beware world out there, so be careful of what you are buying. I cannot do justice to more than one breed, the Yorkie. That is the only one I have. Most reputable show breeders only have one breed, at most two because we know we cannot do justice to more than that. Even if someone says their dogs are AKC registered, still check them out for the rest of their policies etc. The AKC and Canadian Kennel Club are registration bodies only and take the breeder at their word that they are purebred dogs and ethical breeders. It is up to you to determine if the breeder you are planning to buy from is ethical regardless of claims to fame etc. Li

Answer by gh
Submitted on 3/28/2004
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Li--The on-line breeders are so proud of their 1-3 year genetic guarantees!!! Like you said in an earlier post--genetic problems don't always show up til 5-plus years of age. My breeder gave me a LIFETIME genetic guarantee and I didn't pay $7500.00 to get it!!! The on-line breeders must not be members of the Yorkshire Terrier Club, right? Do you have any advice for us out here on how to stop these breeders? They come off on-line as great places to buy a puppy--but the person out there shopping doesn't realize that they are NOT the place to buy a puppy!! I only know because of my experience with my brother breeding yorkies. The first time buyer falls for the teacup, etc label put on these puppies--but I have YET to see one of them GUARANTEE that these puppies won't be bigger then advertised. OR answer my previous questions--WHY are you breeding for such small puppies---well, we know it is because the answer is for the money--but lots of people DON'T know that!!! How do we spread the word? I LOVE these dogs so much and I HATE what I see on-line. I'd like to balance a few breeders on something and take THEIR picture!!! LOL

Answer by gh
Submitted on 3/28/2004
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My 3#er (that lived to 15) did come from my brother--I took him because he was like the runt of the litter--all the rest were larger. He had "seizures" starting at about 10 weeks old. He would pant very hard to start and then his back legs would stiffen and he had to drag them behind him. Then he just fell over on his side--panting and stiff. I call them seizures--but no one ever did really say what it was. It would last 3 hours to the MINUTE--I could time it! This would happen about once every 8-10 weeks until he was about 6 years old--then it stopped. Now if I had gotten him from a breeder on-line, what would they do for me!!?? Offer me another puppy--forget it!! I was IN LOVE with this dog and would NEVER give him up--health problems or NO. That's what scares me--when you look underr "yorkshire Terriers" on-line and see the lawsuits against some of these baby clothes breeders---they won't take the puppies back or refund the purchaser's mega bucks. They MADE their money on the dog!! He DID live to be 15 years old (thankfully) but I watched him like a hawk!! His 9 # 1/2 brother was healthy as HORSE and also lived to 15. I am so grateful to the breeder of my current puppy--a LIFETIME guarantee and IN WRITING that she will take the dog back if any problems--LIKE I WOULD PART WITH HIM FOR ANY REASON (lol). Maybe you should post some of your info where people are on-line looking up Yorkshire Terrier as a topic!! I wish "THE CLUB" could regulate the on-line breeders. They obviously have nothing good to say in their defense!! NOT ONE has answered a question YET!! I did ask a breeder at their e-mail address some of my questions--their response-- "YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!!!" How WRONG is THAT!!!!!!

Answer by Li
Submitted on 3/28/2004
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GH, that was so wonderful you took that Yorkie in from your brothers and that is what I was talking about previously. That sort of puppy does happen but a reputable breeder would never sell a pup to a buyer for big bucks like the one you got from your brother. Your brother did exactly what a reputable breeder would do, give it to a family member or friend. Yours turned out in the long run and sometimes they do. Different story when you have paid thousands of dollars for a puppy alleged to be 'healthy'. You walked into it fully informed and I am sure your brother would have helped you if you would have needed it. Unfortunately, there is all sorts of stuff in all walks of life on the Internet that cannot be controlled. That's why I spoke up on this page to try to get people to think about what they are doing and to educate and inform. As a puppy buyer, if you don't know what goes on with these puppies and breeders who have websites promoting these 'novelty' Yorkies for huge dollars, then you don't know. However, for any of you that have read these dialogues now and still support that kind of breeding, hope you sleep nights, I sure couldn't. Li

Answer by Li
Submitted on 3/28/2004
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It has been annoying not all my posts are getting there. This is the information on the size varieties that didn't get to the boards. Purebred dogs that are registered by the AKC and Canadian Kennel Club are divided into 7 groups. There is Group 1 (Sporting Group, Group 2 (Hound Group) and so on. The Yorkshire Terrier is classed in the Toy Group by the AKC and Canadian Kennel Club. The Toy group is considered to be companion dogs and include the Yorkshire Terrier, Maltese, Pomeranian etc. There are no varieties within the Yorkie for size such as Mini, Toy, Standard etc. Breeds exist such as the Poodle that have varieties of Toy Poodle, Miniature Poodle, and Standard Poodle. The Toy Poodle is in the Toy Group, the Miniature and Standard Poodles are both in Group Six, which I think is the Non-Working Group. The sizes are written in the breed standards for the dogs that do have size varieties in the AKC and Canadian Kennel Club and are distinct separate breeds. Another example is the Schnauzer, Miniature, Standard and Giant varieties. There are no 'teacup' varieties existing in any breeds whether Yorkie, Poodle, Maltese etc. That is a term dreamed up by very clever marketers for undersized dogs in the Toy Group. This information is available from both the AKC and Canadian Kennel Club websites or their publications made available through bookstores or their website stores. Li

Answer by gh
Submitted on 3/29/2004
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I guess that's the point I was making earlier when I asked Yorkiepup to tell me WHY they are breeding smaller and smaller puppies--seems like the smaller they can get them (all on-line breeders) the better!! I think I got no answer because the answer is obvious---it is to make BIG bucks!! It is certainly not to better the breed! Not one of the breeders I have asked has answered (except with an advertisement for the website). That should tell all you first-time yorkie buyers to beware--contact the Yorkshire Terrier Club and get your breeder's name from THEM--not on-line with a baby clothes breeder!! Please!! Think of the welfare of the puppy! And the heartache you could very well experience buying on-line. There IS a market for these NOVELTY puppies--that's a shame-but the ONLY way to stop it is NOT to buy into their advertising! Actually I DID get one answer to my question from an on-line breeder...they best they could do is "I guess you get what you pay for"!!!! Kind of a cop-out answer, don't you agree?

Answer by Li
Submitted on 3/29/2004
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Hi Kgd1908, try the breeder referral on www.ytca.org website. Find a breeder closest to you and ask them if they don't have any smaller sized puppies if they know someone who does that maybe even lives in your area. Those breeders on that site have a code of Ethics they must abide by to be in that Club. You still must screen them and be sure they are reputable and you will see the disclaimer when you click onto the breeder referral list. There is a vast network of breeders that are ethical that they know also not members of YTCA but that they can direct you to. You will not be sent to an irresponsible breeder. Any breeder you talk to, ask what their pet prices are and if you hear 'teacup' or if the prices are vastly pumped up from amongst sizes, don't go there. I have a pretty good outline of information on this message board. Good luck. Li

Answer by Kristin
Submitted on 3/30/2004
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hi i am lookin for a teacup yorkie i am 14 years old and have money for a puppy i would love a teacup yorkie im in love with dogs i have a golden retriever but shes not doing so well and im trying to make her as happy...please e-mail me and tell me if you would like to sell a dog to me..or if theres a website i can find a dog. Please dont sell one to me thats 1,000 dollars because im only 14 and dont have that type of money..i only have like 500 dollars.. Please e-mail me about the information about the puppies Thank You, Kristin p.s- my email adress is krissydo2002@yahoo.com p.s.s Thank you so much

Answer by kgd1908
Submitted on 3/30/2004
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thanks LI! i haven't found a breeder who has puppies for less than $1000 so far though :-( that's still a bit much for my wallet. i've talked to sooo many breeders and i end up being more confused as i go along. some say the "teacup" yorkies ALWAYS have health problems while others offer to give me their reference list of people who've bought teacups from them that don't have health problems....who do you trust? i'd surely hate to bring a yorkie home only to have it cost more than everything i own in the end due to vet bills and illnesses! i did find one breeder who breeds 3lb and smaller yorkies - and they say none have had any defects and their owners rave about their yorkies - but they're also $1750 with only a 1 year guarantee....according to everyone on this message board i'd be crazy in the head to get one right???

Answer by Li
Submitted on 3/30/2004
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kgd1908, I understand your delema. Unfortunately, most of these breeders that sell 'teacup' will claim almost anything to market their wares. Yes, it might be possible to buy one that is 3 lbs and it is healthy but that is a pretty big "might" and far more likely it won't be. There is always an exception and I would certainly be willing to bet these sellers actually do know that and that's why there is a one year guarantee for genetic faults. Genetic problems, especially liver shunts, have a nasty habit of turning up after the puppy is a year old. What is the actual lifespan of anything they have sold that did mature to 2lbs to 3 lbs? Have any offered that information and would it be true? On average most Yorkies I have known of, normal sized of 4 lbs and up, have produced dogs that live to be 15 years old, plus or minus a year or two. Do these 'teacups'have that kind of lifespan or do they consider a normal lifespan 6 years or 8 years. Less maybe? If you read the information on the Yorkshire Terrier Website on the Frequently Asked Questions page about 'teacups' or what we call undersized Yorkies, you know what their stand is about these little ones and it doesn't look good. You do have to realize people who purposely breed for small 3 1/2 lbs and less are just producing a novelty item for an unsuspecting public for money. I am sure they are not at all happy with the information I have put on this board and backed up with information of the Yorkshire Terrier Club which has a membership of reputable breeders that are in it for the betterment of the breed plus a few others on this board that know 'teacup' breeders are not reputable. You could perhaps find a Yorkie that is 3 1/2 to 5 lbs, that is still a small dog, from someone who is reputable that will give you a genetic health guarantee. Always keep in mind however, that a reputable breeder will give a lifetime guarantee on genetic problems on their Yorkies regardless of size. As we don't breed to fill a pet market, we also don't produce very many puppies for sale in the first place. The best you could do is perhaps be put on a waiting list with a reputable breeder, save up the money in the meantime and wait until something becomes available. You will be interviewed first to determine if you will be a suitable home which is in the best interest of the puppy and dog when it is an adult. The first Yorkie I bought was a pet which is what I wanted at the time. I looked for about 6 months and couldn't find what I thought I wanted. I was delighted with the one I did find. It is far better to buy a healthy Yorkie from someone reputable and you will love it just as much, than to buy from someone pretty disreputable, take your chances and end up with a tragedy. As I stated previously, if puppy buyers would stop buying from these people, they would stop this nonsense as demand is what drives their supply. That is a basic economic fact which unfortunately will also work for live creatures as well as any market item. These people know that, they are business driven first, that's how they make their money. They don't care if they should be producing what they are, they are only are rising to the demand of what people think they want. Li

Answer by gh
Submitted on 3/30/2004
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kgd---check out Li's posts above--if a breeder even says the word "teacup" they are only trying to make money. RUN!! Remember Li said there is no such thing--it's a selling ploy!! I wouldn't settle for anything less than a LIFETIME genetic guarantee like my breeder gave me. My yorkie is 4# full-grown--NOT ON PURPOSE!!!!! Breeding the tiny little females is not right!! Those breeders are in it for MONEY--not the betterment of the Yorkie breed!! I bet if you had a list of ALL of the owners of their puppies (which you will never have access to) there are a LOT that have puppies with health problems. I'd take Li's advice--stay off-line and go through the Yorkshire Terrier Club..STILL check them out carefully! As I said above, my yorkie is 4#--LIFETIME guarantee and he was $800.00. My vet says he is in perfect health--but Li also told us that genetic defects may not show up for 5-6 years...why settle for less than a LIFETIME guarantee. I doubt if an on-line breeder will give you that..a lot of their HEALTH guarantees (on line) are only good for a couple weeks to a couple months, too!!! Don't settle---your Yorkie will be with you for a long time!! Stay off-line and find someone who cares about the puppies, not the $$$$. gh

Answer by gh
Submitted on 3/30/2004
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Li----I don't know if the on-line breeders really CARE who we are--because unfortunately, like you said, the yorkie buyers that are posting on here and asking for responses to their PRIVATE e-mail addresses are probably getting e-mails like crazy from the baby clothes breeders, don't you think? The breeders won't answer US on this site because they cannot justify what they are doing--but I would bet that they are contacting these unsuspecting buyers and trying to sell their puppies. I look at the pic of that little puppy balancing on a pop can and I wish I could just tell the WORLD--STAY AWAY from these on-line breeders!! Please don't keep them in business by buying into their selling ploys and perhaps experiencing more heartache than you can imagine!!!! If you love yorkies, get a healthy 4 plus #'er. They are still small. Yorkshire Terrier Club calls them UNDERSIZED because they ARE!!! Not teacups!!--but UNDERSIZED yorkies!!! That means "not what they should be"!!! Oh well, Li. I DID contact one of these breeders personally for an answer-like I said the response I got was "You get what you pay for". I don't want to pay thousands of dollars for a puppy that will cost another thousands of $$ for health care--THAT is what you you are paying for with an UNDERSIZED Yorkie!!! Li, you have renewed my faith in breeders--you have not once posted you e-mail address to make a sale!! You truly are speaking out for good of the yorkies and not to make a fast buck off these people on this site that are looking to buy!! gh

Answer by Li
Submitted on 3/31/2004
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Hi, nope and I never will post who I am nor will I reply to any of these private email addresses looking for puppies of any size. That's not how I work. Even if I did post my email address, I would never sell a puppy to anyone through this board or any other on line advertising ploy. I get bombarded with emails and phone calls from people who do find my website or find me by referral. My website has information about Yorkies, pictures of my show dogs, pictures of some of my puppies that I have kept or sold previously, never ever of any puppies I may have for sale now and I don't announce upcoming litters anywhere. I have links to puppymills.com, ytca.org, and other reputable breeders. That's what all the reputable breeders have on their sites. If the babyclothes breeders told you you get what you pay for then I hope their puppies sold for prices more than about $2500 are guaranteed show quality, no less than 9 or 10 months old, already pointed, AKC registered only as that is the only bona fide purebred registration body in the US, females ranging in size from 5 to 6 1/2 lbs, males 4 1/2 to 6 or 6 1/2 lbs is fine. If they aren't, you aren't getting at all what you paid for. Want an eyeopener? Go to Google search engine and type in Diva pup complaints. A site will come up called something like www.thecomplaint I'm not sure of the rest but you'll see it. Read the complaints about the teacupper Diva pup. Those complaints are the types of problems you can expect from teacup breeders. Speaking of which, they are quiet aren't they. They know what I have said is true. Anybody checking out puppies from breeders, regardless of the contracts, pay attention to your feelings about the breeder and whether you think they are sincere. It is a royal pain to end up having to sue a breeder because they gave you a contract and won't honor it. I sell my puppies with all kinds of requirements and guarantees in my contract but if I am not sure about a buyer and whether they will honor that contract, I won't sell them a puppy. As a buyer, you also have the right to determine if that breeder is honorable. Li

Answer by kgd1908
Submitted on 3/31/2004
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gh and li yall are awesome!! gh - where did you get your puppy from?? i tried reading thru all of these posts to see if you posted that already ;-) but i got dizzy - ha! i realized that i didn't know much about yorkies at all after reading all of these posts - tsk to think i was going to spend 1750 for a 3lb yorkie that probably wouldn't live that long - so unfortunate. but hey isn't there a chance that even the terrier club breeders could be shady as well?? li - what's your website address?? i know you said you don't post selling your puppies but who better to buy one from than someone like you who truly cares about the yorkie breed? again thanks to you both for all of the helpful information :-) still haven't found anyone who has a lifetime guarantee for their yorkies either - argh!

Answer by gh
Submitted on 3/31/2004
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I chuckled when I read your last post--about how quiet the on-line breeders are...that's what I've been saying. Look how far back the questions I had were put to them! Sure enough--no answer but there is another website to go to advertising the INFAMOUS TEACUP Yorkie!! LOL They cannot speak to our concerns because they are fully aware that we are right!!! They cannot justify what they are doing! kgd--funny that you got names of happy buyers' from the on-line breeders. Wouldn't you like access to ALL their buyers--trust me--you won't get it!! Everybody can have a bad experience but it's how the breeder handles it that counts!! I haven't check out the Diva complaints yet--I'm doin' that right away, tho. Heres's one for you Li and kgd. THIS one gives me NIGHTMARES!!! Read their advertising and THEIR complaints on-line. I will contact my breeder and see if I can give her info. She doesn't get many litters per year, tho. and Kgd--I think you still can get a bad breeder from Yorkie club--I think Li would agree. That's what she means by checking them out, too. NEVER buy from a person who will sell to ANYBODY!!! The on-line breeders don't even care if they mett you first (MOST of them). They will pack the puppy up and put it on a plane to you!! Kind of like PLANT, ya know!!!!! You buy spring bulbs that way!!!!! Sorry I get carried away but it makes me so angry!!! Good luck kgd. You are very wise to listen to Li's advice. Take your time and you WILL find the love of your life!!!!!!

Answer by gh
Submitted on 3/31/2004
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kgd---yea!! Hopefully you are on the right track!! Was this breeder on-line or through the Yorkshire Terrier Club? Will you be able to go to them and purchase your puppy so you can "meet" it first? I hope it works out for you. Louisiana--IfI were you I would take Li's advice and go through the Yorkshire Terrier Club and stay OFF-LINE. If you are told a breeder sells teacups yorkies--RUN from them..there is no such thing. Make sure your yorkie is AT LEAST 41/2 lbs full grown and get a LIFETIME genetic guarantee or else go somehere else..the on-line breeders advertise teacups--but remember..they are UNDERSIZED puppies--usually coming with many problems. I'm sure if you go to the Yorkshire Terrier Club website you'll find breeders in your area that DON'T advertise on-line. Go in person to pick out your puppy and meet it first. They have personalities, too and you should be sure that you "get along". and like you heard kdg say in her post above....if they care about their puppies MORE than their MONEY--you will be interviewed to be sure you can provide a good home for the puppy. Don't buy into the labels--teacup, etc.....that means they are breeding females that are WAY to small!!! A yorkie is a yorkie!! If you DO decide to go on-line--I would get it IN WRITING from these teacup breeders--"if my puppy grows to weigh more than advertised, I want a refund on the price between one labeled size and the next". You'll find out pretty quick asking them for that guarantee that they have to admit there is no such thing as a teacup and they cannot guarantee size!!!!! good luck

Answer by Li
Submitted on 3/31/2004
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Louisiana/Florida, tell you what I will make it easy for you. Read only the posts on this board by Li and gh, ignore the rest. Yes I know some are long but I have lots of faith that you will get through them, all the information you need is there. There aren't that many we have posted so go for it. WOC, now that's an interesting site. There was a message board going on on the Animalnetwork.com site. It was titled something like complaints about WOC. Should have seen all the info and complaints about that outfit. The people running that site finally locked it and shut it down likely after WOC clued into what was going on and complained. Basically, people were trying to get people together for a class action law suit. What became really hilarious was when they started fighting with each other. But I digress. Yes, with any breeders listed on any breed club you must still be diligent and check them out for yourself. If you don't like what you hear or see, keep going. I ran into a rescue of a Silky Terrier that the dog was originally purchased from a breeder in a local breed club that had a Code of Ethics. The breeder very obviously went against their Code by the circumstances that this dog was sold as a puppy. I did let them know but don't know if the Club has done anything since. As for lifetime genetic guarantees, ask them why not as liver shunts can show up at 5 or 6 or older, that you know that, and what their policy would be if it did show up at that age or older. Posting puppies for sale goes against the Code of Ethics for many breed clubs and against mine. No, I am not a member of YTCA, I am a member of a couple of other Clubs whose Codes aren't quite as stringent. My own Code of Ethics is far more stringent than any of theirs anyway. However, I don't post puppies for sale as I don't ship and with the few puppies I have in a year, I have many local people looking for puppies who are very suitable owners for my puppies. I have no reason to post. I am not flooded with puppies as commercial breeders are who just churn them out, sell them usually way younger than they should be, and make room for the next flock. The teacuppers etc all work the same so don't want to ask you questions or turn anyone down for a puppy whether or not it is the right home, the right breed, the right time for the buyer. They want your money so aren't going to ask any questions except will that be Paypal, Visa or Mastercard. Did you know that even with all the stuff that goes on, I never take credit cards or PayPal, entirely personal cheques and the odd time cash at the buyers request for which I have always provided a receipt. Never had one bounce, never had a problem. I gauge my buyers and I figure if I think they are going to bounce a cheque off me, they aren't getting a puppy. They are local, I know where they live, know where they are employed and if referred by a previous puppy buyer, know someone who knows them and can vouch for them. Not a bad system and my biggest priority is a good home for my puppy that I can sleep nights. Teacuppers concern is money. Reputable breeders don't care when we sell our puppies because the right home always comes up from word of mouth, people meeting us at dog shows that are held where ever we happen to be showing so meet prospective buyers personally, Canadian Kennel Club in Canada, AKC in the USA, our information websites. We are never flooded with puppies. Think about the mathematical probabilties behind the claims of 'teacuppers' and their websites. From the number of puppies they are selling every month, that is a lot of buyers. If buyers are so happy with their puppies, then why do they still need these sites and list so many puppies for sale? Do you not think they would be getting all kinds of referrals? Some teacuppers have been in business for a long time. Reputable breeders have repeat puppy buyers as well once their original puppy reaches old age and passes on. I haven't been breeding long enough to have people looking for another puppy yet as theirs they bought from me is alive and happy and well. I have had repeat customers come back to me six months or a year after they bought the first one because they want to have two and want the second one from me or were referred by one of my puppies owners. Get it? If you haven't figured it out yet, yes, I do have a degee from University in a science discipline with a background in genetics. Trust me though, you don't need a degree to figure this stuff out, common sense will do. Li

Answer by kgd1908
Submitted on 4/1/2004
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hey yall - here's the update on miss yorkie grill lady :-) i guess she liked my answers to her questions but asked me to look harder in my local area - still waiting on any referrals from her. LI LI LI where are you located!?!?!? i would feel so much more comfortable purchasing a puppy from you!! email me keyani1908@hotmail.com :-) oh and GH yep the breeders from the YTCA. i did find that a lot of the breeders from the YTCA felt that no one would offer a lifetime genetic defect guarantee - and i found one who did so i guess that's just personal breeder opinion huh? as most they offered a 1 year guarantee but i don't feel too comfortable with just having that. again thanks for the advice GH and LI!!!

Answer by gh
Submitted on 4/1/2004
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I'm not surprised that you are having trouble finding a lifetime genetic guarantee--especially because of what Li told us (which I didn't know) that liver shunt can show up at 5-6 years. But you can bet your sweet bippy that the on-line breeders know that!! ALL breders know that!! That's why they won't do it!! They have gotten your money, spent it, and had DOZENS more litters by the time it shows up in your puppy. Since their objective is MONEY, they don't want to be bothered with a puppy they sold 5 years before--sick or not. I wonder how much "in-breeding" goes on in these places with all these puppies available. They know that can cause problems genetically down the road, too--they don't want to guarantee anything that long term. And I hate to repeat myself but it should be obvious to all these people looking for yorkies that not ONE on-line breeder has done anything on this site except ADVERTISE!!!! Doesn't that speak VOLUMES?? to you all??? Take a close look at how many puppies they have at ONE time and how many different breeds (some of them) have. That is NOT who you want your yorkie from!! My breeder sells ONLY through word of mouth---she has no puppies now. That's because she is like Li and doesn't MASS PRODUCE DOGS!! lol Li, you are great!! I just hope people will go straight to the Yorkshire terrier site--OR ASK around in your area at animal clinics and see if you can find a REPUTABLE breeder that way. Groomers, veterinarians, start there--NOT on-LINE. And please STOP these people by NOT buying yorkies under 4-5 pounds. Trust me the difference in size is NOT that big--you would never know without a scale if a puppy is 3# or 5#!! They are ALL small dogs!! If you see little 3# females at any of these places, LEAVE!! A healthy puppy should be your choice--not a NOVELTY item!!!!

Answer by ebquilts
Submitted on 4/5/2004
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The sad thing about those breeders that only breed for the 'teacup' Yorkies that do not exist is that they DO EXIST in the minds of uninformed yorkie 'wishers'. People who are uninformed about the breed and are determined to ONLY have tiny puppies keep these disreputable breeders and puppy mills in business because they supply the demand! I have two very small Yorkies, and was determined to have tiny ones - before I was informed enough. I am fortunate that they are very healthy, but can't imagine buyine one online and having it shipped to me. How can you watch the bounciness and 'connection', personality and excitement of a baby Yorkie without SEEING it. I've had several dogs in my life, and the one I chose out of a litter was always the one that connected with me - the one that just said "I'll be your best buddy!" Not being able to hold that baby all the way home, while trying to figure out what his or her name should be - according to their personality - is one of the precious moments of owning a puppy - of any breed. We had to look for a long time to find just the perfect puppy for our family, but they are perfect for our family - because we looked until we found the ones with personalities that fit with ours! My advice is that if you're going to invest - time, money and love - in a Yorkie, you MUST first invest the time to search for the perfect puppy for you. If you have a price range in mind, don't deviate from it - keep looking! However, you might be determined to find a 'teacup' but will meet the puppy that says to you "I'll be your buddy forever"... don't let the size determine your connection! You'll know him or her when you meet - but you might have to look at a lot of frogs before you find your prince or princess puppy - just like in any other relationship!

Answer by sk
Submitted on 4/8/2004
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I am a college student in chicago Il and was wondering if anyone would have information or have a yorkshire puppy for sale. As a student I don't have too much money to spend but I would still like to have a happy healthy baby ;) At this point sex or size is not an issue but I would love for the puppy to be young so that I could bond with him/her better. I will have roommates so the puppy will have lots of love and affection. Also, if this is possible if the dog were "fixed" that would be ideal as well. I don't want to have a puppy shipped to me in a plane because I believe that is cruel. If someone who lives in the chicago land area has a puppy to sell then I hope to maybe meet and play with the puppy first, just to get to know the personality. I know these are a lot of things to ask for but I think these are reasonable requests. I am looking for a companion that I can grow up with. Thanks for your time. Please email me at sairakhan15639@hotmail.com with the subject of yorkshire. Thanks so much.

Answer by Li
Submitted on 4/9/2004
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Molly, that is an excellent suggestion, rescues are always looking for responsible owners. You are right about not likely getting registration papers if you are rescuing. However, you are wrong about registration papers on a purebred only being necessary to show a purebred in dog shows. Any dog or puppy represented as purebred must be registerable with the American Kennel Club in the US or the Canadian Kennel Club in Canada. Those are the only recognized Clubs verifying authenticity of purebred status. Those clubs carry the Stud Registry for the purebred breeds they recognize. Therefore, even when buying for pet only, the breeder must have the litter registered. In the US, the breeder must provide the registration/transfer of ownership to the new owner at no extra cost to the buyer. The breeder can stipulate a Limited or Non-breeding status on the form. Most reputable breeders in the US will pay for and put through the Individual Dog Registration with ownership transferred to the new owner and their kennel name in the registered name of the puppy. However, if the transfer/registration form is provided to the new owner, the new owner submits the information and from what I know, pays for this themselves which is less than $20. I do not know if this has changed putting the onus on the US breeder to do the paperwork and pay for it too. The prices that most of these puppies are selling for, there is no reason for the breeder to not pay the registration fees. Canada is slightly different. The litter registration and Individual Dog Registration as well as transfer of ownership to the new owner must be provided by the breeder again at no extra cost to the buyer. In Canada, a non-breeding contract can be stipulated for puppies sold for pet only but registration certificates will still be issued. This is federal law in both countries. In Canada, it costs less than $50 to register and transfer a puppy to the new owner. Don't ever pay extra for papers, it's illegal anyway. Registration provides the authenticity of purebred status. You must still be very cautious of the breeder you are dealing with as the registration paperwork is submitted and processed in good faith by both registering bodies assuming the breeder is reputable. As with anything people and money get involved with, scams happen. Be informed. Li

Answer by gh
Submitted on 4/15/2004
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Li--and it's really sad that a so-called legitimate breeder would advertise on this website "teacup yorkies" when the buyers have only to go to legitimate sites like Yorkshire Terriers Club and see that teacups don't EXIST!! To me it should show to all these peoople looking for yorkies that these baby doll clothes breeders care ONLY about the money in their pockets!! Why would anyone on THIS site use the term "teacup" or be looking for a yorkie UNDER 4 pounds--I'd be embarrassed to admit it after all the information posted here!!! Shows that the novelty of owning one of these poor puppies outweighs the risks to the dog's health--those people should not OWN pets!!! I could understand if people weren't given responsible sites to go to that are on-line for the benefit of the breed, NOT to make money. These sights give the facts and people are choosing to keep irresponsible puppy mills and baby clothes breeders in business--at the cost to the puppies!!!!!

Answer by Li
Submitted on 4/16/2004
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Missing a post again. No, there is no such thing as a short haired Yorkie. If you see one with short hair, it has been clipped or scissored short. Some Yorkies can have a coarser coat that will be very slow growing but will eventually get long, just takes longer than average to grow. Those coats usually stay darker in colour and don't tend to mat quite as easily. Novelty Yorkies - yes, you would be surprised at the people contacting me looking for a 'teacup' and dont want to believe me when I tell them the true scenario. If they don't know and I educate them fine, but if they don't want to be educated I won't sell them one that will be particularly small even if I happen to have one which I very seldom do. BTW gh, I found the pet store query page and posted to it. Li

Answer by gh
Submitted on 4/18/2004
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bluiis---SO sorry to hear about your loss!!! I had two yorkies--they passed away within 9 months of each other and were both 15 years old also. I was devastated. I didn't understand people that were so attached to their pets (after all they are ONLY animals) until I had my guys. They were raised with my kids and were members of the family!! I still miss them. They each have a headstone in my backyard and pics of them are all over my house--with the pics of my kids. So we who LOVE our pets understand what you are going through. I WISH I could help you with finding a good breeder. I am nowhere near you. I still say word of mouth, or local vets and groomers may have referrals. Or do what Li suggests and try the YTC--but you still have to be careful. I just lucked out in finding my new yorkie (I waited a year and a half). My daughter worked with a girl whose aunt breeds them..so I knew the circumstances. He is a joy and I love him tons already!! Don't give up--especially since you know how wonderful they are to have around!! and I really think all the posted advice above is correct--don't get one under 4#--it isn't fair to the puppy!! Or the poor puppy's mother--still no disagreement from any breeders on that fact--just more advertising--that should tell us SOMETHING. They obviously can't defend themselves!! There is no defense and they know it!!Keep searching and if I happen to come across anything I will for sure contact you. Good luck and my deepest sympathy!!

Answer by bluiis
Submitted on 4/20/2004
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gh, Thanks so much. I feel better when You talk to people that understand. I am so sad, I was never able to have children so she became everything to me. Saying a dog is your "best Friend" doesn't really explain what she was. My husband is so sad that he can't wait another day for another, and he has his own dog. I went to the YTC of America on-line and called the breeders they listed in So. Calif. none had puppies and 3 offered me adult females ranging from 3 - 6 years old that they are done breeding for $2000 to $3000. Unbelievable isn't it. I am talking to a breeder in Michigan that a friend bought a Yorkie from 2 months ago. This is an elderly woman who really seems to do it as a labor of love. She even babysits her dogs for free if you go on vacation. She said she'ld rather have them come back home for a week or two than be out in a cage. I wouldn't be able to use that service if I do get one of her pups unfortunately. She has promised her current pups to others right now, but has just had 2 females at a stud so maybe she will have more soon. I have family in Michigan, and considering this woman sells her males for $550 and females for $750 it would be cheaper for me to fly there, meet her, visit family & bring the pup home than it would be for me to buy one in So. Calif. One of the Calif. breeders did admit to me that they get more $ for Yorkies out here than anywhere else. That seems about right since just about everything cost more in California than the rest of the country. I do have a question for you and the others that may read this; other than the contract, what should I ask a breeder to know if they are a good one? This woman said she always uses a stud so that she doesn't inter breed. She also releases her pups at 6 weeks (which I thought was to early). She said she never let's her pups outside for threat of picking up germs, therefor they get to attached to her if she keeps them past the 6-7 week mark. She makes sure all shots have been given befor they are released. Does that sound ok? Thanks

Answer by Ricky's Mom
Submitted on 4/21/2004
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I just visited this sight for the first time and found so much good information. I encourage and beg each of you looking for a Yorkie to visit sights such as petfinder.com, Yorkshire Terrier Rescue Network or United Yorkie Rescue. There are so many little yorkie rescue dogs out there in need of a good home. I found Ricky my 10 lb wonder Yorkie at petfinder.com and was able to adopt him for only $75. So many times rescue dogs have had very hard lives and have more love to give than you could even imagine. Even a pure bred Yorkie doesn't come with papers when you rescue/adopt, but they give you back 1000 times more love than what you pay for in adoption/rescue fees. Thanks for considering rescue/adoption and saving a Yorkies life.

Answer by gh
Submitted on 4/21/2004
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Bluis No need to thank me--trust me--I CAN'T know exactly how you feel at loosing your pet, but I know how devastated I was. One of my guys passed away at the vet..it killed me that I wasn't with him. The other one was on my living room floor and I laid beside him and just petted him and talked to him til he was gone. It is ssoo hard!! Li is much more of an expert than I am--but one thing I would insist on is a LIFETIME genetic guarantee. I got that with my new guy and he was $850.00. Some of the prices are OUTRAGEOUS!! Because like Li said in a post above, sometimes genetic problems don't show up til the dogs are 5 plus years old. I could never give mine back if he DID have a problem, but I am more comfortable knowing that the breeder is sure enough of her puppies to offer it. I think 6-7 weeks is kind of early, too but like I said..I'm not an expert..just a yorkie LOVER!! lol Good luck to you!!!

Answer by Jeff Dane
Submitted on 4/22/2004
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So you don't like the word "Teacup"? We use the word Teacup to explain the potential size of a pup. We could call it a Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, or some other adjective that would describe a tiny dog, but we like the word Teacup. There are many reputable breeders who specialize in small dogs. All breeders and most people looking for the small Yorkies know there is no AKC Teacup Standard, they just know it means small. The breeders who hate the word Teacup no matter what they think it means will always charge you more money for the, Teacup, Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, sized pups they are offering. Look at any web site selling Yorkie pups, the breeders that complain about the word Teacup on their web site and how it affects OTHER breeders pups prices will ALWAYS, ALWAYS, sell you their Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive or "Teacup" sized pups at the highest price. No matter what they say about the word "Teacup", small Yorkies mean more $$$, and they know it! At yorkiepup.com we have long lines of champions in our breeding Yorkies, but we never use that to determine the price of a pup. We don't do AKC dog shows or follow any AKC standards, but we do breed & raise what people want, and that is loving, Teacup, Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, puppies! If some people think the AKC doesn't recognize ,Teacup, Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, sized Yorkies, then maybe they should tell the AKC to quit accepting money from the hundreds of breeders who pay thousands and thousands of dollars each year to register their Teacup sized pup litters. You don't see the AKC turning away that money - now do you? Teacup, Toy, and Standard are only words we use to describe the size of pups or adults, it has nothing to do with the AKC, ACA, UKC, CKC or any of the other 50+ dog registerations available out there. There is such a thing as "Teacup" sized Yorkies, and we have them! www.yorkiepup.com

Answer by ukusa
Submitted on 4/22/2004
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We are loving breeders of Yorkshire Terriers in the Atlanta area, and would never consider calling our pups Teacups....No such standard has been considered by the AKC or CKC registry's. We call our Yorkies by the term TOY's. Our pups are approximately 4.0 lb. at full maturity. We have never sold a pup for over $800, and feel we are resonable within the Yorkie Fancier's Club prices for pups. We never ship via cargo, but ask that our new owners consider taking a discounted R/T flight into Atlanta to pick up their new baby as it is very hard on a Toy dog to be placed in a cargo hold for who knows how long. We feel it is safer and less stressful on the pup. If anyone wishes to see our Sire and Dam please contact us at g300d@yahoo.com We will have a new litter in December, 2004. Kind regards Georgie Ashecho Yorkies

Answer by Li
Submitted on 4/22/2004
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Sorry, Jeff, you are so very wrong. There are many breeders that cash in on 'teacup' and you I guess are one of them. There are many who neither breed for them nor do they sell them at vastly trumped up prices. Many REPUTABLE breeders won't even sell anything that will reach under 3 1/2 lbs full grown at least until it is closer to a year old, spayed/neutered already, and they are sure it is going to be okay and sell for the same price as any pet puppy they are selling. If they aren't sure, they will usually give it free, gratis to a relative or friend that knows the dog may be short lived and they provide all the help and guidance they need along the way. Sometimes it works out the dog leads a relatively normal life, often they don't, but the pet owner hasn't paid huge bucks for it and went into it fully informed usually already owning a Yorkie so aren't left totally bereft if the undersized one doesn't make it. Anything on the smaller side is often sold for the same pet price as any other size, max maybe a few hundred more if it is sure to be healthy, but never for thousands. You see Jeff, a reputable purebred breeder breeds only registered purebred quality dogs that meet the breed standards set out by the AKC for that breed. As with any mating, not all the pups in a litter will be show quality. Sometimes some are undersized or oversized. Those that are not show quality, are very healthy quality pet puppies and are sold for pet under spay/neuter contracts to the right home. You will know what I am talking about if you know anything at all about the world of purebred dogs, if not, it is over your head. Reputable breeders always ask more questions than the buyer in their interview and will turn them down if it is determined in their experience this is not the right breed, the right time, or the right owner for their puppy. You see, Jeff, a reputable breeder will sell a dog with guarantees that they honor. If a puppy is sold that will be say 2# full grown, and the breeder charges $3,000, then if that puppy has a health problem, the breeder would have to replace or refund the FULL purchase price. As a breeder that sold this puppy you could also be responsible for Veterinary costs incurred by the pet puppy owner you have sold especially because it is documented by Veterinarians and the YTCA website that these are high risk puppies and their members do not promote or breed for them. I guess t in your guarantees you should have that clause to cover vet costs as well if you are so sure your puppies are healthy that you will pay Vet costs no matter how much if the puppy is found to be of substandard health etc by a qualified Veterinarian. You will learn a lot if you read the whole message board but I guess you don't want to know and would rather talk these people into believing you. Shame on the breeders that have these 'teacup' websites and promoting something like that. I have no idea why you insist you are providing something you are claiming people want. People want them because you are telling them they are okay, they are wonderful etc. I get calls from people who think they want 'teacup' I educate them and they are so very grateful and change their mind pretty darn fast. So you go about bringing these lives into the world that could very well be miserable because of ill health, more than likely to die at a young age. These puppies are not wonderful and it is a tragedy that this is going on. As gh asked what kind of guarantees do you have for your puppies and the really big question is, Do you honor anything? Did anyone go to the site I quoted on another message board about the owner of a 3#Yorkie that wasn't warned, it is now six years old and now the owner has spent $25,000 yes twenty five thousand not hundred, in Vet bills to date because of its health problems? Again, $3,000 to $5,000 buys a guaranteed show quality dog from a reputable breeder, not an undersized Yorkie or whatever creation you think you are doing. Did you know that if you are breeding crossbreeds no reputable purebred club will allow you into its membership as you are supposed to be promoting HEALTHY purebreds? Not all purebred breeders are in it for the dollar. Easy to spot the ones who are and aren't. Any website anyone is visiting should ask themselves, is this person doing a service to the world of dogs purebreds or not or are they doing a good job of filling their pocket with money by providing some novelty item? Do they have more than one or two breeds at the most? Do they show their dogs at bona fide dog shows through the AKC or Canadian Kennel Club, how many litters a year do they produce, how often do they breed their females starting and ending at what ages? When a breeder only has maybe 9 or 10 puppies or less in year to sell for pet, we aren't flooded with puppies and can honor guarantees, sell with care, and know our puppies very well. Read the information on the AKC website at www.akc.org to learn about the world of purebred dogs. Yes, the AKC will register a breeders puppies or dogs even if they are not a member in good standing of the AKC. The AKC is a registration body only and assumes the breeder is reputable unless proven otherwise. Any breeder selling any registered puppies still have to be carefully scrutinized by the buyer to determine if this person is reputable or not. Li

Answer by Li
Submitted on 4/22/2004
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Missed your other post Jeff. Nowhere on any AKC registration papers will the AKC in the US or Canadian Kennel Club in Canada ever have Teacup etc as nominclature describing the Yorkshire Terrier. Your teacup, micro etc only appears on your website and on the websites of breeders like you and, I would guess, on your reciepts? or does it? The Akc is only a registration body and until someone proves otherwise that a breeder is not reputable,records or not correct etc, they will register the puppies for the breeder submitting the appropriate paperwork. The AKC would register your puppies but you are not submitting any information saying they are teacup or whatever you have dreamed up. The AKC registration paper carries the registered name of the puppy, the breed ie Yorkshire Terrier, Colour, sire and dam registered names and numbers, breeders name, new owners name, date of birth of the puppy, male or female, and date the registration was issued. Size is never asked for or given for the Yorkie for either the litter registration or the Individual Dog Registration Certificate. I know full well that you are cashing in on the fact that some breeds do have varieties, some in coat, some in color, some in size. Those varieties are given in the breed standards for those breeds and are registered accordingly. For example, in the poodle, their is the Toy, Miniature, and Standard poodle Varieties. The Toy poodle breed standard for size says it must be under 10" at the whithers. It is classed in the Toy Group. The Miniature Poodle is more than 10" tall and less than 15". It is classed in Group 6. The Standard Poodle also in Group 6, is more than 15" tall. I am sure most pet puppy buyers have heard those terms and therefore would think it might be reasonable that there are teacups etc. There is no teacup nomenclature for any purebred dog in any breed standard. The Dachshund is in the Hound Group. It comes in different sizes and coat types. There is a Miniature and Standard Dachshund and the coat types are longhaired, short haired, and wire haired. There are actually, therefore, 6 varieties of Dachsies, each in their own class at any dog show all are in the Hound Group. The Yorkie is in the Toy Group. Breed Standard calls for less than 7 lbs. Most reputable breeders consider less than 4lbs to be undersized, more than 7 lbs is over sized. As in any purebred breed of dog, size variations occur in the breed with the same nomenclature consideration given by any reputable breeder of the smaller end of the scale being undersized; larger end of the scale oversized whether you are talking about Shelties or Golden Retrievers or Yorkies. Much of this is explained in books from the AKC and the Westminster Dog Show held in New York in February is always broadcast on Tv. They have an excellent commentator that gives all kinds of information on purebred dogs. I fully realize you don't breed to any breed standards because you are in it for money only. Pet puppies sold by reputable show breeders are sold for pet prices of about $1000 or less to $1200 maybe $1500 depending on where the breeder is located and cost of living economics for the area. Some will sell for less just to have a puppy in a good home. As we show our own dogs etc the pedigree and Championships behind our dogs mean way more to us than to the pet puppy buyer. But it does illustrate to the pet puppy buyer that WE CARE ENOUGH ABOUT OUR BREED TO PAY ATTENTION TO BREED STANDARDS. We not only have Champions from other kennels that show their dogs in our pedigrees, we have our own Champions with our kennel name we have shown and got championship titles on and we also know the breeder personally or through friends, know the dogs on those pedigrees, know who owns them, what they look like, whether alive or dead, Champions they have sired or whelped, everything including health. Puppies are not inanimate objects flying off store shelves. These are live creatures, loyal, affectionate, and deserve the best including the careful planning that brought them into the world in the first place not to just supply some insane pet novelty market. Li

Answer by gh
Submitted on 4/23/2004
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I looked at your website, Jeff...you sell your puppies with a ONE YEAR genetic guarantee. BUYER BEWARE!!!!! My breeder gave me a written LIFETIME genetic guarantee--if you ar wise, you will INSIST on that!! Anyone who knows they are selling healthy puppies will OFFER it!! Since that wasn't included in your post and you haven't "advertised" it here, I looked it up for myself. And, PLEASE explain why you show these puppies in DOLL CLOTHES??? To make the puppy cuter and the NOVELTY more attractive to buyers??!! To also SELL clothes for puppies? For $$$$? The breeders, like Li says that are not MASS producing puppies, but have a few litters a year are much safer for the buyer!! And you obviously do NOT screen your buyers--how can you when you sell to ANYONE ON-LINE and then SHIP the puppy on an airplane..you don't care who buys your puppies as long as they don't commit credit card fraud!! You site is very clear on that point. I think the average person does realize that teacup exists as a term to describe these dogs...nobody disputes that--it is not a recognized term for a breeder who CARES about the breed!! You admit you put extra "attention and care" into producing these novelty puppies....it's a SHAME that you are producing UNDERSIZED yorkies ON PURPOSE. If I pay you $3800.00 for a puppy and it grows to be bigger than you advertise, would you refund the difference???? NO breeder has answered that question>I highly doubt you would. And with only a ONE YEAR genetic guarantee, you are leaving a LOT of people out in the cold with these undersized puppies!!!

Answer by TS
Submitted on 4/24/2004
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LI and/or GH ... I read the whole message board so far and I am so glad you put up all that information. I learned so much!! I appreciate it! :) If you know of any good breeders in particular like the ones you have described in the LA, California area ... Please let me know!! I am also trying to look through the websites you have recommended. My friend also wants one. She wanted to buy one from a pet store and i did not let her, because i know about the pet stores...however, i did not know that some breeders are just as bad! I did not know that people are shipping the dogs all around. That is cruel! I'm so sad that people do things like that. I've been looking into getting a yorkie for years. Please, please...let me know any more information or specific breeders you may know of. Every bit of information helps! Again, thank you so much for the information rich posts!! My e-mail address is cutie_piso@yahoo.com unless you would like to post a response on this message board. Either way! :)

Answer by gh
Submitted on 4/24/2004
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Li--You're great!!! Like I said, I am nowhere near being an expert on yorkies! I just know what I know through reading and COMMON SENSE!! and also from owning a 3# yorkie for 15 years. My WAY earlier post described the problem my poor little guy had. LUCKILY, my brother (who bred him and NOT on (purpose) gave him to me. Who knows what would've happened if he had come from a baby-doll breeder? and gone to a family that didn't know that the UNDERSIZED yorkies could have those problems. You know if the breeders labeled them UNDERSIZED, instead of teacup--they wouldn't sell them!! That's why they use those NOVELTY terms. Would you buy an UNDERSIZED tree, or an UNDERSIZED plant, or UNDERSIZED ANYTHING???? No--but give it a cutsie name and dress it up like a doll and what do you know---$$$$!!! to be made! I wish I could help everybody looking for a yorkie--they are so lovable and deserve the BEST homes. I repeat myself, I know, but PLEASE don't buy from these on-line breeders..please be good to the breed. They are SO worth the search. Keep looking for that LIFETIME genetic guarantee--like I said, I wouldn't give mine back no matter WHAT happened to be wrong--but I feel so secure in my purchase knowing that my breeder has the confidence in her puppies to offer a WRITTEN LIFETIME genetic guarantee. She doesn't sell them and when the check clears, forget about them!!!! Again, Li-I'm so glad you are able to give these yorkie lovers some help in their searches--I wish I could do more!!!

Answer by Li
Submitted on 4/24/2004
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Liz, I also have a degree from an accredited University. As a student, there was no way I could afford or have the time for a puppy or a dog. You are far too busy with studies, friends, commitments etc. Living accommodations are often iffy for students. I would strongly suggest you wait until you graduate, have a job lined up, are settled with your life etc. Also keep in mind that if you are young, plan on marrying and having children the Yorkie will not blend most of the time with new babies. This is the time most young couples will surrender a Yorkie to a shelter or new home or do not provide the care it should receive. A dog, Yorkie or other breed, is a 24/7 hopefully 12 to 15+ year commitment. Most young adults are exploring their lives and there is often a hitch that comes up that precludes the care of their dog. I usually do not sell to students for that reason. Look at your daily life throughout the whole year not just during terms or between your terms at school, and consider if you really do have the time and can make the commitment to a dog of any breed. Li

Answer by 3 little monkies
Submitted on 4/24/2004
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i am responding to anyone interested in yorkies. i am not an expert either, but have two adult yorkies, my male is almost 3 yr. old and weighs 2lb. 5 oz. and my females is 4 lbs.and she is almost 2 yr. i have a 2 lb. female that is a doll, she came from 4 lb. parents. she is gorgeous, and akc with "all" of her shots. she is well cared for, but my two older doll babies are not used to a little fireball. i would like to find a good home for her, everything is up to date and more, as i treat my yorkies like little people. i would like to have what i have in her which is close to $1,000. i would not ship her and would want to meet you. i live in central indiana and would be willing to drive with a sincerely interested party and a deposit. i really hate to give her up but i cannot let go of my older babies. she is 16 weeks old and trained. she is paper trained inside and goes out to potty and knows exactly what it means. she knows what it means when you say, nitey nite, she goes to bed, out to potty? do you want your vities? (vitamins) and a bath, and all kinds of great things. if you are interested, please email me beckysb47909@peoplepc.com thankyou so much.

Answer by thegeneralX
Submitted on 4/25/2004
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These threads are so saddening to me! Seriously! There is NO such thing as a teacup yorkie- it is just a ploy some people have to charge higher prices. If you are looking for an "inexpensive" be warned! Buying an inexpensive dog, might get you one with health problems! Even if you do get buy with no health problems, you'll need to buy a lot of things for your new puppy- I spent a LOT of $$$ when I got Honeybabe, and that is just the nessecities. AVOID PET STORES! NEVER, ever, ever get a dog from a pet store, or buy things from a store that sells pets! Go to www.puppymillrescue.com to see why! NEVER BUY A DOG FOR A PRESENT, always consult with the person before hand and make sure they want a dog, and have time to take care of it. Also, a birthday party or christmas party would be SO stressfull for a little puppy it is better not to give it to them then.... if you want any yorkshire terrier breeder/rescue recommendations you may email me at thegeneralX1@yahoo.com and I'll try to help you. C.N.

Answer by Silky
Submitted on 4/25/2004
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I live in Northern Illinois, and I have been online and in the newspapers for months looking for a yorkie. A pet store in a strip mall priced them for $1900, and they suggested I not buy from a breeder. There are so many misconceptions out here, and it's becomes a task just to purchase a pup. I to agree the prices online are unreal, and the shipping sounds like a nightmare. I was told not to buy them out the local paper, because I would have no way of knowing if they were healthy or not, and no guarantees. I did look up some Illinois breeders and found the pups were priced from $550 & up. One breeder that I found on breedersonline, took a deposit to assure me a puppy from the new litter, and will meet me at a delivery site so I can pick my puppy out. This breeder has also sent photo's to my email.

Answer by Li
Submitted on 4/26/2004
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Silky, please, a pet store will tell you anything. No reputable breeder will EVER put a puppy into a pet store to sell through a third party. Yes, the Internet is chock full of unethical breeders selling their wares like bars of soap off a store shelf. Don't meet breeders in parking lots or anywhere except their home where they have their dogs. You have no clue where that puppy is coming from otherwise. Breeders are not being 'nice' or 'helpful' Most reputable breeders sell pet puppies for about $1000 give or take a few hundred. You can't expect to pay much less. If you can't afford that, rescue one. www.puppymills.com is an excellent info site that tells you about puppymills. This is where pet stores and brokers get their wares. Again, no caring reputable breeder will ever sell their puppies to a pet store or broker to sell. Li

Answer by gh
Submitted on 4/26/2004
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LlndsayRyan--If you get a yorkie it will be small!! ALL yorkies are small! A 6-7 pound yorkie is a small dog. Please don't help these puppy brokers by paying money for anything under 4-5 pounds!! If you notice, the baby doll breeders only jump on with their posts when they want to advertise!! They can't make a legitimate argument for what they do so you only hear from them when they have a litter to sell!! No explanation as to why they dress the puppies up like dolls, or why they breed these undersized puppies on purpose. It speaks volumes to ME that they can't justify their actions--but you can bet when the next litter is born, they'll be right back hawkin' their websites!! ANY yorkie is a small yorkie--please just go for HEALTH, not SIZE!!!!

Answer by Jeff Dane
Submitted on 4/29/2004
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So you don't like the word "Teacup"? We use the word Teacup to explain the potential size of a pup. We could call it a Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, or some other adjective that would describe a tiny dog, but we like the word Teacup. There are many reputable breeders who specialize in small dogs. All breeders and most people looking for the small Yorkies know there is no AKC Teacup Standard, they just know it means small. The breeders who hate the word Teacup no matter what they think it means will always charge you more money for the, Teacup, Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, sized pups they are offering. Look at any web site selling Yorkie pups, the breeders that complain about the word Teacup on their web site and how it affects OTHER breeders pups prices will ALWAYS, ALWAYS, sell you their Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive or "Teacup" sized pups at the highest price. No matter what they say about the word "Teacup", small Yorkies mean more $$$, and they know it! At yorkiepup.com we have long lines of champions in our breeding Yorkies, but we never use that to determine the price of a pup. We don't do AKC dog shows or follow any AKC standards, but we do breed & raise what people want, and that is loving, Teacup, Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, puppies! If some people think the AKC doesn't recognize ,Teacup, Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, sized Yorkies, then maybe they should tell the AKC to quit accepting money from the hundreds of breeders who pay thousands and thousands of dollars each year to register their Teacup sized pup litters. You don't see the AKC turning away that money - now do you? Teacup, Toy, and Standard are only words we use to describe the size of pups or adults, it has nothing to do with the AKC, ACA, UKC, CKC or any of the other 50+ dog registerations available out there. There is such a thing as "Teacup" sized Yorkies, and we have them!

Answer by Jeff Dane
Submitted on 4/29/2004
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You would think this Li & Gh would have a life! Get it through your heads,,, the word Teacup is only a word! We state that the AKC has nothing to do with anything we breed. And who cares if we dress up our pups,,, they love it. Don't you have anything better to do with your time? Why do they dress up the pups? PLEASE! You are one sorry group of old women. So you don't like the word "Teacup"? We use the word Teacup to explain the potential size of a pup. We could call it a Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, or some other adjective that would describe a tiny dog, but we like the word Teacup. There are many reputable breeders who specialize in small dogs. All breeders and most people looking for the small Yorkies know there is no AKC Teacup Standard, they just know it means small. The breeders who hate the word Teacup no matter what they think it means will always charge you more money for the, Teacup, Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, sized pups they are offering. Look at any web site selling Yorkie pups, the breeders that complain about the word Teacup on their web site and how it affects OTHER breeders pups prices will ALWAYS, ALWAYS, sell you their Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive or "Teacup" sized pups at the highest price. No matter what they say about the word "Teacup", small Yorkies mean more $$$, and they know it! At yorkiepup.com we have long lines of champions in our breeding Yorkies, but we never use that to determine the price of a pup. We don't do AKC dog shows or follow any AKC standards, but we do breed & raise what people want, and that is loving, Teacup, Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, puppies! If some people think the AKC doesn't recognize ,Teacup, Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, sized Yorkies, then maybe they should tell the AKC to quit accepting money from the hundreds of breeders who pay thousands and thousands of dollars each year to register their Teacup sized pup litters. You don't see the AKC turning away that money - now do you? Teacup, Toy, and Standard are only words we use to describe the size of pups or adults, it has nothing to do with the AKC, ACA, UKC, CKC or any of the other 50+ dog registerations available out there. There is such a thing as "Teacup" sized Yorkies, and we have them!

Answer by Jeff Dane
Submitted on 4/29/2004
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You would think this Li & Gh would have a life! Get it through your heads,,, the word Teacup is only a word! We state that the AKC has nothing to do with anything we breed. And who cares if we dress up our pups,,, they love it. Don't you have anything better to do with your time? Why do they dress up the pups? PLEASE! You are one sorry group of old women. So you don't like the word "Teacup"? We use the word Teacup to explain the potential size of a pup. We could call it a Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, or some other adjective that would describe a tiny dog, but we like the word Teacup. There are many reputable breeders who specialize in small dogs. All breeders and most people looking for the small Yorkies know there is no AKC Teacup Standard, they just know it means small. The breeders who hate the word Teacup no matter what they think it means will always charge you more money for the, Teacup, Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, sized pups they are offering. Look at any web site selling Yorkie pups, the breeders that complain about the word Teacup on their web site and how it affects OTHER breeders pups prices will ALWAYS, ALWAYS, sell you their Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive or "Teacup" sized pups at the highest price. No matter what they say about the word "Teacup", small Yorkies mean more $$$, and they know it! At yorkiepup.com we have long lines of champions in our breeding Yorkies, but we never use that to determine the price of a pup. We don't do AKC dog shows or follow any AKC standards, but we do breed & raise what people want, and that is loving, Teacup, Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, puppies! If some people think the AKC doesn't recognize ,Teacup, Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, sized Yorkies, then maybe they should tell the AKC to quit accepting money from the hundreds of breeders who pay thousands and thousands of dollars each year to register their Teacup sized pup litters. You don't see the AKC turning away that money - now do you? Teacup, Toy, and Standard are only words we use to describe the size of pups or adults, it has nothing to do with the AKC, ACA, UKC, CKC or any of the other 50+ dog registerations available out there. There is such a thing as "Teacup" sized Yorkies, and we have them!

Answer by Jeff Dane
Submitted on 4/30/2004
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At yorkiepup.com we have long lines of champions in our breeding Yorkies, but we never use that to determine the price of a pup. We don't do AKC dog shows or follow any AKC standards, but we do breed & raise what people want, and that is loving, Teacup, Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, puppies! At yorkiepup.com we have long lines of champions in our breeding Yorkies, but we never use that to determine the price of a pup. We don't do AKC dog shows or follow any AKC standards, but we do breed & raise what people want, and that is loving, Teacup, Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, puppies! At yorkiepup.com we have long lines of champions in our breeding Yorkies, but we never use that to determine the price of a pup. We don't do AKC dog shows or follow any AKC standards, but we do breed & raise what people want, and that is loving, Teacup, Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, puppies! At yorkiepup.com we have long lines of champions in our breeding Yorkies, but we never use that to determine the price of a pup. We don't do AKC dog shows or follow any AKC standards, but we do breed & raise what people want, and that is loving, Teacup, Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, puppies! At yorkiepup.com we have long lines of champions in our breeding Yorkies, but we never use that to determine the price of a pup. We don't do AKC dog shows or follow any AKC standards, but we do breed & raise what people want, and that is loving, Teacup, Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, puppies! At yorkiepup.com we have long lines of champions in our breeding Yorkies, but we never use that to determine the price of a pup. We don't do AKC dog shows or follow any AKC standards, but we do breed & raise what people want, and that is loving, Teacup, Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, puppies! At yorkiepup.com we have long lines of champions in our breeding Yorkies, but we never use that to determine the price of a pup. We don't do AKC dog shows or follow any AKC standards, but we do breed & raise what people want, and that is loving, Teacup, Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, puppies! At yorkiepup.com we have long lines of champions in our breeding Yorkies, but we never use that to determine the price of a pup. We don't do AKC dog shows or follow any AKC standards, but we do breed & raise what people want, and that is loving, Teacup, Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, puppies! At yorkiepup.com we have long lines of champions in our breeding Yorkies, but we never use that to determine the price of a pup. We don't do AKC dog shows or follow any AKC standards, but we do breed & raise what people want, and that is loving, Teacup, Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, puppies! At yorkiepup.com we have long lines of champions in our breeding Yorkies, but we never use that to determine the price of a pup. We don't do AKC dog shows or follow any AKC standards, but we do breed & raise what people want, and that is loving, Teacup, Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, puppies! At yorkiepup.com we have long lines of champions in our breeding Yorkies, but we never use that to determine the price of a pup. We don't do AKC dog shows or follow any AKC standards, but we do breed & raise what people want, and that is loving, Teacup, Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, puppies! At yorkiepup.com we have long lines of champions in our breeding Yorkies, but we never use that to determine the price of a pup. We don't do AKC dog shows or follow any AKC standards, but we do breed & raise what people want, and that is loving, Teacup, Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, puppies! At yorkiepup.com we have long lines of champions in our breeding Yorkies, but we never use that to determine the price of a pup. We don't do AKC dog shows or follow any AKC standards, but we do breed & raise what people want, and that is loving, Teacup, Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, puppies! At yorkiepup.com we have long lines of champions in our breeding Yorkies, but we never use that to determine the price of a pup. We don't do AKC dog shows or follow any AKC standards, but we do breed & raise what people want, and that is loving, Teacup, Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, puppies! At yorkiepup.com we have long lines of champions in our breeding Yorkies, but we never use that to determine the price of a pup. We don't do AKC dog shows or follow any AKC standards, but we do breed & raise what people want, and that is loving, Teacup, Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, puppies! At yorkiepup.com we have long lines of champions in our breeding Yorkies, but we never use that to determine the price of a pup. We don't do AKC dog shows or follow any AKC standards, but we do breed & raise what people want, and that is loving, Teacup, Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, puppies! At yorkiepup.com we have long lines of champions in our breeding Yorkies, but we never use that to determine the price of a pup. We don't do AKC dog shows or follow any AKC standards, but we do breed & raise what people want, and that is loving, Teacup, Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, puppies! At yorkiepup.com we have long lines of champions in our breeding Yorkies, but we never use that to determine the price of a pup. We don't do AKC dog shows or follow any AKC standards, but we do breed & raise what people want, and that is loving, Teacup, Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, puppies! At yorkiepup.com we have long lines of champions in our breeding Yorkies, but we never use that to determine the price of a pup. We don't do AKC dog shows or follow any AKC standards, but we do breed & raise what people want, and that is loving, Teacup, Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, puppies! At yorkiepup.com we have long lines of champions in our breeding Yorkies, but we never use that to determine the price of a pup. We don't do AKC dog shows or follow any AKC standards, but we do breed & raise what people want, and that is loving, Teacup, Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, puppies! At yorkiepup.com we have long lines of champions in our breeding Yorkies, but we never use that to determine the price of a pup. We don't do AKC dog shows or follow any AKC standards, but we do breed & raise what people want, and that is loving, Teacup, Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, puppies! At yorkiepup.com we have long lines of champions in our breeding Yorkies, but we never use that to determine the price of a pup. We don't do AKC dog shows or follow any AKC standards, but we do breed & raise what people want, and that is loving, Teacup, Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, puppies! At yorkiepup.com we have long lines of champions in our breeding Yorkies, but we never use that to determine the price of a pup. We don't do AKC dog shows or follow any AKC standards, but we do breed & raise what people want, and that is loving, Teacup, Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, puppies! At yorkiepup.com we have long lines of champions in our breeding Yorkies, but we never use that to determine the price of a pup. We don't do AKC dog shows or follow any AKC standards, but we do breed & raise what people want, and that is loving, Teacup, Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, puppies! At yorkiepup.com we have long lines of champions in our breeding Yorkies, but we never use that to determine the price of a pup. We don't do AKC dog shows or follow any AKC standards, but we do breed & raise what people want, and that is loving, Teacup, Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, puppies! At yorkiepup.com we have long lines of champions in our breeding Yorkies, but we never use that to determine the price of a pup. We don't do AKC dog shows or follow any AKC standards, but we do breed & raise what people want, and that is loving, Teacup, Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, puppies! At yorkiepup.com we have long lines of champions in our breeding Yorkies, but we never use that to determine the price of a pup. We don't do AKC dog shows or follow any AKC standards, but we do breed & raise what people want, and that is loving, Teacup, Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, puppies! At yorkiepup.com we have long lines of champions in our breeding Yorkies, but we never use that to determine the price of a pup. We don't do AKC dog shows or follow any AKC standards, but we do breed & raise what people want, and that is loving, Teacup, Tiny, Teeny Weeny, Bitszy, Dwarf, Miniature, Diminutive, puppies!

Answer by Li
Submitted on 4/30/2004
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Jeff I will try to explain again as you don't get it. 1. Reputable breeders who DO NOT charge big bucks for undersized Yorkies don't have puppies advertised for sale on their websites, message boards or any other marketing ploy like you do to sell puppies at all. Their websites only indicates that they have Yorkies, pictures of their dogs that they show to Championship titles, puppies maybe from years past, so people have an idea of what they look like and what they are about. There are many of them around. 2. AKC is a registration body only. They register puppies/dogs assuming the information given by the breeder is correct unless proven otherwise. There is no indication on the form that you might be registering an undersized or oversized representative of whatever breed you have. Your reputation is up to you. If you aren't reputable, I am sure if you let the AKC know that, they will not take your money anymore or accept your registrations. 3. I happen to have a very very busy life as I am sure gh does to. However, as an avid fancier of the Yorkie, I hate seeing the general public being taken in by people selling their wares like bars of soap off a shelf and putting many many little Yorkie lives at risk because you want to supply what you know is a huge money making market for yourself and others like you. For each prospective buyer that has read this message board and NOT BOUGHT from you or anyone like you, is one more hitch I have thrown into your pathetic way of making a living, one more person I likely have saved from a tragedy. I have a job, and it isn't making money off of selling dogs at their peril and the peril of their new owners. Can you say the same? Li

Answer by Li
Submitted on 4/30/2004
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I answered this part separate as long posts seem to confuse you too much Jeff. You may claim to have Championships in your lines and you are right you certainly didn't get the titles on them yourself. The show breeders that did did not sell you a dog either, nobody reputable would. Unfortunately, for show breeders they sometimes have trusted the wrong person and let people use their stud dogs for breeding or sold them a puppy that ultimately was used for breeding but puppies were not supposed to be sold for breeding. Those lines have made their way into kennels that are not reputable. In the last five years, show breeders have been much more careful about this making it much harder for breeders like yourself to get a hold of their dogs. No, reputable breeders who show their own dogs do not charge more for pet puppies that they sell just because there are champions in the line. Granted some likely do, but it still doesn't make it ethical. There are many who don't. A pet puppy is a pet puppy, not meant to be bred but enjoyed as a pet and sold for the price in accordance with that understanding. A backyard breeder or puppy mill will try to get a champion in their line and they will sell their puppies for more money because they don't understand the world of purebred dogs at all. A reputable breeder never does. If somebody wants to get into breeding and approaches a reputable show breeder, the dog may be sold under co-ownership if you can talk the breeder into it, and the dog will be shown to its title before the breeder will ever allow it to be bred. This is likely over your head Jeff as you have done the same thing for so many years. I have tried to teach Backyard breeders and those that don't understand purebred dogs and the purpose of them but once they have tasted the big bucks, teaching them the love of the purebred never works. I don't expect you to change, I suspect you are more upset that this information on this board could help upset your apple cart a little bit. If you really believe in what you are doing is ethical you wouldn't need to argue it here. From most of the responses on this board of people looking for puppies, I would guess my input has made a lot of sense to them. Li

Answer by Emily
Submitted on 4/30/2004
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I actually tried calling Jeff Dane of Yorkiepup.com the other day, interested in buying a small Yorkie. I must admit, I know little about dogs and assumed that if it's expensive, it must be nice. However, it wasn't his dogs that I was not impressed with. It was his attitude. I have no problem spending $5000 on a dog that I know will bring me a lot of happiness, but if I am going to spend that much money I would insist on the seller being nice and helpful. Instead I found that Mr. Dane was rude, unhelpful, sarcastic, and for some reason, in a hurry to get off the phone. I feel as though it is my obligation to warn anyone who is thinking about buying a yorkie, spend a lot of time looking and get to know the seller. Make sure it is someone who you enjoy doing business with.

Answer by love your dog
Submitted on 5/1/2004
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I am in Dallas, TX. I'm looking for a yorkie pup (who in here isn't) I will never ever ever buy a puppy online....I have already made some attempts to look for one "in person" flesh de flesh.....I found two but they were standard "big" pupps....I want a small yorkie. Not like pint size or like tiny "just" HEALTHY but smaller about 4-6lbs. There is a place in Grand Prairie that sales puppies for 500 and they are so cute.....to bad a was broke. Anyway LI/GH or someone with a HEART FOR ANIMALS please if you have any info for me let me know. Thanks. By the way paying over 500 is too much money....these puppies just need a home.......it would benifit this animals more if they had a loving careing home to go where they can have a long heatlhy life.......loveing your animal is key here people......all this "breeders" selling these puppies for over 800 are just SICK!!!.....what if our children were sold that way......wouldn't u try to stop it? animals are just as important!!!!!!!

Answer by gh
Submitted on 5/2/2004
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I have been out of town for funeral--I just had a chance to read all the last posts (since MY last one)....Li--we don't have a life because we LOVE Yorkies? That was a VERY sad, and TELLING statement as to the business practices of Jeff Dane. Mr. Dane, I have NEVER, nor would I EVER attack you personally-I don't know you--but OBVIOUSLY Emily from the above post had the pleasure!! and you know what-if we want to read your advertising, we'll go to your website-if you can't write original posts, why don't you stay off the message board. and you never ecxplained why you dress your puppies up and BALANCE THEM ON POP CANS!! Why don't you tell these people the truth--it's to make money on UNDERSIZED YORKIES!! They don't look cuter--they look sad and pathetic!! Why don't you explain why you don't call them UNDERSIZED?? You avoided that question also by hurling personal remarks at those of us who care about yorkies!! You can't hide the fact that you have NO DEFENSE for what you are doing!! Call us names, make fun of our opinions, whatever you have to do but remember potential customers are reading your posts and I bet you can write off a bunch of them--by your OWN actions. I don't care what cutesy name you give the puppies--the only ACCURATE one is UNDERSIZED..you know it and now a LOT of other people looking for yorkies know it. I haven't heard a lot of positive feedback on your posts--doesn't that TELL you something? Li and I, and HOPEFULLY a lot of other people reading these post will keep on spreading the word that a yorkie under 4 pounds is UNDERSIZED and at risk for MANY problems!! You admit to breeding them on purpose--and yes, we consumers realize that any UNDERSIZED dog brings more $$$ to the selfish people breeding them--that is EXACTLY our point, I'm glad you agree with it!! That's why we encourage people NOT to buy from you at the cost to these puppies. Don't tell me a puppy LIKES being dressed in doll clothes--NOBODY that loves animals will buy that!! I think your business practices must be pretty sad and I would LOVE to hear from others besides Emily who have spoken or dealt with you as a customer. You are doing a great job of proving every word Li and I have said true--thank you for making our job a little easier!!!! The more you respond, the worse you look to animal LOVERS!!!!! Yorkie Lover--thanx for your thumbs up--all we can ALL do is keep trying to spread the word and stop businesses like these. Obviously if a person is rude to a POTENTIAL customer, he will CERTAINLY NOT be helpful to a person who has purchased a puppy from him and had problems!!! Doesn't that make sense????? I have a feeling once the cash hits the bank, what Emily dealt with would be considered FRIENDLY!!!!! So Mr. Dane, please keep responding and making our point clearer for us...but try to be original instead of just sending your advertising and hurling personal attacks. I am not talking about YOU as a person, but your business practices. Emily would have to speak to you as a person!!!!

Answer by Jeff Dane
Submitted on 5/2/2004
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Its so easy to hide behind a web name. If you notice, I'm not hiding, my name is Jeff Dane. Your Emily lady called wanting a pup for almost free. She had the same sad story most people have who can't afford a tiny Yorkie have. When you hear enough of these type of buyers on the phone, you just have to stop the call right there. You now hold her up as your champion and you don't even know the whole story, very typical on your part. Do you really think if Emily was going to spend $5000 with me that I would want her to hang up? She was just a tire kicker, nothing more and I can spot them right off the bat. They are the ones that say they don't need papers, its just a pet, not for shows, not for breeding, and even ask sometimes if there a shipping charge, duh?, They always want a tiny, cheap female, "Teacup",,,,,, and none of those lines work with any breeder. I just can't understand why you keep bringing up the AKC & champions,,,, we don't care about either, period. We sell more Yorkie mixed pups than we sell pure bred Yorkies. Anyone can bred and raise a Yorkie pup that will mature to 5 to 7 lbs and I mean anyone, it takes much love and devotion to care & raise Teacup sized pups. I just don't understand where you think what you have the right to tell me or anyone else that the word "Undersized" is what we have to use to decribe a pups size, they are my pups and I will call them what ever I want. This is the US and the market place for word "Teacup" sized pups of any breed is way bigger than a few posters on this web page. Type "Teacup" in a search engine! Thousands will be listed. You are right on one issue, it is all about the money, not a single person in the breeding business spends 15 hours a day, 7 days a week caring for dogs because they think its just so much fun that they need to be poor and still do it. You need to spend a month working with a large scale breeder before you can even have a educated opinion on this subject. If you could; 1) Please list all the breeders or kennels you know with a "Lifetime" unconditional health guarantee that you keep talking about. I will pay you $100 for everyone you can name & I can verify. 2) Please list all these breeders you keep talking about that sell or give away these "Undersized" Yorkies when they have them. I'm sure almost everyone on this board including myself would be interested in this new found cheap scorce of "Undersized" Yorkies. There will be NONE listed by you, that I will also put my money up against. Li & gh are nothing but sour grapes on small dogs and it shows. Over the last 22 years, we have had hundreds of customers with Yorkies that matured under 4 lbs and all are very happy Teacup sized pup owners. Even my parents own a 2 lb, 16 year old male Yorkie from me named Maximus and except for his teeth falling out now, he has had a great healty long life. I will be watching this board for the breeders & kennels names so you can back up your words. Jeff Dane

Answer by gh
Submitted on 5/3/2004
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Mr. Dane, I don't believe in any of posts I have mentioned knowing breeders (other then my brother). As far as your conversation with Emily goes--you are a business man and when a customer calls you, I think that no matter WHAT they are looking for, they deserve respect--just because they aren't interested in OVER padding your pocket doesn't mean that they should be treated rudely. You OBVIOUSLY, by your own admission are only interested in the people with the BIG bucks-not finding good homes for your dogs. YOU are the person selling the dogs--I think that we all deserve answers to OUR questions as possible consumers. I also never said I had a LIST of breeders offering lifetime genetic guarantees. I FOUND ONE by word of mouth. You have yet to tell us YOUR genetic guarantee--just worried about knowing who else offers them. You KNOW, as a breeder that genetic problems may not show up for many years--the average buyer may NOT know that--that's why Li and I are trying to educate them..so they don't have the heartbreak of buying a puppy for thousands of dollars and 2 or 3 years later learn that it has genetic problems and then go back to you for help...you won't BE there--the check has cleared. That is the point I'm making to these unsuspecting buyers..I have never said that ALL breeders, or even MANY breeders offer it. Just that I hope people are aware that a short-term genetic guarantee at these prices and with these undersized dogs is VERY risky!! I HAD a 3# yorkie for 15 years myself--so congrats to your parents!! You are a business man--I don't think after reading your angry posts there are many people on this site that would buy from you--or any other sites we can find to post the facts for unsuspecting buyers. You are VERY much on the defensive,but what we would like from you, as a "professional" is answers to our questions, not personal attacks. Calling a potential buyer (Emily) a tire kicker!! Of course you would have given her more time if she had been willing to spend $5,00.00 with you--that's the point. But you know what--she may have given a puppy an EXCELLENT home for a reasonable amount of money!! But that's not your interest, is it? Maybe if you didn't MASS produce dogs and ship them all over the country, you would not have to live it 24/7. You would be more interested in WHO gets your dogs and what kind of home they have. You would make just as much money, in my opinion because you would sell a lot more dogs with HONEY than VINEGAR. You are in business and trying to sell dogs on this site--that's why your name is listed--I think with your angry posts and attacking your customer it would have been better to keep YOUR name a secret!!! Better for your business anyway! Emily is not my champion--you are so angry--she is a person letting other consumers know that you as a business man you are not a nice man!! Nothing wrong with that if it's true and you seem to be admitting that it is. I don't mention AKC or CHAMPION lines...read my posts again. Li is the one with that knowledge and letting people know the facts is a good thing, except for YOUR business!! I never said you HAD to call them undersized, either--read my posts SSLLOOWWLLYY, Mr. Dane. I said that is what they ARE--if you called them that, you wouldn't make your big bucks, would you? That's not cutesy? SO, Mr. Dane--you are a businessman and us consumers have questions. What is your genetic guarantee, why do the dogs wear doll clothes (and please don't insult our intelligence by saying they LOVE IT), and if we purchase a "TEACUP" from you and it grows to be "TOY", or a "MINIATURE" or whatever your cutesy name for the next size is, do we get a refund on the difference? Those are questions that I, as a consumer have a right to ask you--YOU are the businessman!!!! You don't like Li and I telling your potential customers that they have a RIGHT to ask you those questions because if you can get away without answering them you are MUCH better off!! So how about trying not to make this a persoanl battle and just TRY to be professional and answer our questions?

Answer by Emily
Submitted on 5/3/2004
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Mr. Dane, I think you might have me confused with someone else, which in fact proves that you have been rude to more than one customer. I called you about 3 weeks ago and I asked you for your advice on how I could be ASSURED the puppy, Jodie, which I remember being well over $5000. You then told me that she had already been sold so I asked if you had any other litters that would have anything just as small. At think point you snapped at me very rudely and I told you that I would take my business elsewhere. I am not going to sit on the internet and talk of my financial situation but I assure you, Mr. Dane, that I am not hurting. I hope you just keep talking, as it is driving your future customers away one by one. My advice to you is to get some class and improve your business etiquette.

Answer by Jeff Dane
Submitted on 5/3/2004
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OK, you avoided every question I asked you to answer and turned this into a attack. You own 1 Yorkie, I own many, many yorkies and several kennels. I run a $12 Million dollar dog breeding business and all you run is your mouth. Who is the Yorkie expert? Emily, she did ask about Jody and wanted to know what pups I would have in the month of June, this being almost 3 months away, I then told her those pups are not even born yet, she then said OK, forget it I'll go somewhere else and that was the end of the phone call. The person you are saying is dissatified with Yorkiepup.com on your web search is one lady named Julie from Austin, her web name is "Sue" look at the 3 posts, they are all from the same person. But that is old news, she is now a happy Yorkiepup.com customer. This is typical of your style of attack, we place hundreds and hundreds of pups yearly and as with any business from cars to computers, you are always going to get some not so happy customers when you deal with the public, we try very hard to make a buying customer happy. You also forgot to mentioned the hundreds and hundreds of happy people out there from our reference pages, so typical of you. You people are very funny, I'm the only breeder willing to talk to any of you and you all go berserk. I have Yorkie pups listed for $450 and up, all you see is the big money pups and stick on that. You want the conversation on your own terms, you want people to only hear your rants, guarantee, money, business, yada,yada,yada. This will never get anywhere, so I will not write back. Call it your little victory, but you will now only be TYPING IN BIG LETTERS to yourself. It is all about the money no madder what you say or think, NO ONE is giving away Yorkies no matter what size they are! Look at the number of messages on this board of people wanting Yorkie pups! All my pup buyers are over 18 years of age and considered adults, you or I have no right to screen anyone if they want a Yorkie pup, its America they can have one if they can afford it. Who am I to tell them what they can or can't buy? Thanks for being civil; Jeff Dane

Answer by Sharon Mathews
Submitted on 5/4/2004
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I bought a puppy from Jeff Dane and found him very easy to work with and very willing to answer any questions I had - before and after I bought "Ashley." My son-in-law bought "Rugby" from Jeff and was very impressed by his setup; so much so that my husband flew to Texas to pick up Ashley. I would suggest that you go and see what you are talking about before you pass judgement. It's always easy to make judgements, but not so easy to "eat crow" when one finds out one is wrong. If you really have a gripe why not speak face-to-face like civilized people - or at least give your name and phone number so you can be reached privately. I'm sure I will never see this on your website, but if you would like to speak to me or my daughter about our experiences and observations of Jeff and his operations feel free to post your number and we can talk.

Answer by Larry
Submitted on 5/4/2004
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I will say AMEN to Jeff Dane. I am going to write one time on what seems to be the Li/gh private line. It is really unfortunate that people who have read the volumes of personal opinions put up here by Li and gh have accepted those opinions as proven truths. These two have even said that they are only "avid fanciers" of yorkies with no other credential on which to base their condemnation of on-line breeders. I will also say to them that if they would take their typing fingers off their keyboards long enough to let their minds work, they could read the answers to all the questions they ask of Jeff on his website at yorkiepup.com. I have known Jeff for over a year and I researched breeders both on line and locally for more than a year before I found Jeff. We have had at least one yorkie in our home for the last 15 years. For my money, there is no one who knows the breed or the business better. Yorkiepup.com is a tremendous website and Jeff has never been unavailable to answer questions. I say to readers of this web site. Do your own research. You have no idea who these "experts" are. After my wife and I did our research we chose Jeff. In the last year we have bought six WONDERFUL and HEALTHY yorkies from Yorkiepup.com and number seven is coming next weekend. Our biggest is 5 pounds and our smallest is under 2 pounds. None of these dogs are related to each other and our veterinarian of over 15 years has thoroughly examined each one. She has high praise for the healthy condition of these dogs and each one is a gem. Thanks Jeff. We love them!!!!

Answer by concreteplacer
Submitted on 5/4/2004
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I have a wonderful yorkie named REAGAN from Jeff Dane @ Yorkiepup.com. Always had my questions answered thoroughly and directly. Joan of Arc was a little tipsy... so it appears these 2 are Too? (Li and GH)I called random buyers of Yorkiepup before we made our final choice; I e-mailed these people directly, spoke freely and candidly; made our purchase and have been incredibly in love with our vibrant healthy and high energy Reagan eever since. She gives us love, kisses, and attention. She is cooler than cool. On to the other business at hand;Jeff Dane answered every question, took every phone call prior to sale and after sale to this day which is over 1 year later. He has called and asked about our baby regularly; we've sent pictures and we've called to see how the kids on the farm are doin? Jeff is knowledgable, dedicated, and interested; I MOST APPRECIATED HIS HONESTY!!!!

Answer by gh
Submitted on 5/4/2004
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Mr. Dane, Contacting some of your customers was a wise idea!! They are obviously some of your satisfied customers. As of last evening, "Sue" was NOT a satisfied customer!!!! You must have her confused with someone else,also. YOU are the businessman. The customer has questions, you are responsible for answering them!! You have not done so--I know why. I only hope the many people who read these posts will also understand what we have been trying to get across all along. If you contact a breeder on-line, or anywhere else that will NOT answer your questions--do NOT buy from that breeder. And if he is breeding undersized yorkies on purpose, it is at the expense of the dogs--to fatten his wallet. I am not a bit surprised that other breeders have not come on here--they would also have to answer questions that they are better off not answering!! At least better off for their businesses. I think YOUR business would have been better off if you had not come on--you are a very angry man!! This has never been an attack on YOU---you threw the first punch. Yorkies under 4 # are undersized!! You have to work very hard to produce undersized yorkies, by your own admission. That is because they are not supposed to be that size!! You know that, Mr. Dane--but your livelihood, I assume comes from the sale of these puppies so you count on people not being aware!! If you offered a lifetime genetic guarantee, at the very least, I would give you some credit for at least trying to care about your puppies! But you will sell to anyone with the $$ anywhere in the country these puppies that can have problems later on and then you are GONE!! I'm sorry you made this a personal attack. I don't have to answer your questions--I am not buying a puppy from you, and never would. You are supposed to be trying to sell puppies to the people on this site!!! That is obvious by all the advertising you have done. So why don't you tell them your genetic guarantee and why you place puppies on soda cans--they have a right to know. I am glad you have loyal customers that will come to your defense when you call them. Good luck in your business, Mr. Dane. I hope not too many puppies have to suffer. I still hope "Sue" will come on here and post. She DID visit your facility and I hope she'll come on and report her findings. She is someone that you did NOT call to help your advertising and most certainly wouldn't!! Larry and concreteplacer--I'm glad your puppies are healthy--I hope that in the years ahead you don't wish you had a decent genetic guarantee and then look for Mr. Dane. Your personal attacks are clever--the tipsy one was especially cute--I can see why you all get along so well. But you know, his business looks bad enough right now--he could do without the personal attacks from his customers to help that image along! I wish only the best for your puppies.....BUYERS BEWARE

Answer by yorkielover
Submitted on 5/4/2004
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To start with I have a (teacup) yorkie she is 2 1/2 lbs and extremely healthy!!! Using the term teacup is nothing more than a descriptive term for her size. I do not claim she is a registered teacup!!! I have read all the posts and it seems to me that if you do not agree with the so called yorkie experts on here then you must be wrong. I think buying and owning a yorkie is an individual thing, no two yorkies are going to be the same regardless of their size. I have yorkies from 2 to 7 lbs. All are very healthy. Some on here would have you believe otherwise! I also know Jeff Dane and have purchased a puppy from him. I have also been to his home on numerous occasions to check out his kennel and his caring of these puppies. How many of you have checked him out personally? His dogs are not stacked in his garage as some would have you believe, they are very well taken care of. He does not breed all these dogs himself he states that he works with MANY breeders. As for the clothes these babies are wearing --- give me a break, how is that a bad thing. My baby wears clothes and she thinks she is beautiful when she is dressed up. I think you will find thousands of people who dress their babies. I can not believe putting an adorable dress on a baby would be a bad thing! This all seems so trivial, people come to this site asking for teacup yorkies or tiny yorkies or all the terms one might use to describe a tiny baby puppy and then they are bombarded with harsh comments about other people because they are not following the protocol that some people have deemed the only right way! I think this is America and you have the right to post what you think would be right for you (not neccessarily right for everyone) but you do not have the right to degrade anyone else or their business, especially when you have no first hand knowledge of these people. Instead of just stating your feelings on what you think is right you start to pat each other on the back as long as they are posting the things you want them to. There are those who think that it is their way or no way and that is where I think the trouble begins. Pup buyers need to do their own homework and what they pay or who they buy from is their own business and needs no ones approval. If you have a child and he or she does not turn out to be what you wanted or what you expected do you want a refund, do you want a guarantee that they will turn out just the way you had invisioned??? You state that these babies are not possessions, I agree ---- so doesn't that mean we are going to love them even if they are not as perfect as we originally thought? I just find it amazing the things you find to be troublesome to you ------- dresses on babies, credit cards, paypal, shipping, bad descriptive terms,internet advertising, this is all so trivial. The most important thing is that we all have the right to make our own choices and do what we think is best for us. This is one of the problems today, we spend so much time badmouthing others because they do not conform to our beliefs or standards that we have set! Wouldn't it all be great if just one or two people had the perfect answer for all of us, it would certainly make life easier. Unfortuantely that is not reality, We have to learn to be responsible for the decisions we make and quit blaming everyone else.....This is America and we the public have the choice to buy the type of puppy that fits into our lifestyle but we also have to purchase this puppy knowing that we are going to love it unconditionally and a piece of paper or a lifetime guarantee (which basically comes with nothing) is not going to change how we feel about this baby. Do your homework and vist the kennel if possible, talk to the breeder and then make your own decision. Do not make judgements about someone you know nothing about because you are listening to someone who happens to have different beliefs. No one who sells puppies can give you 100% guaranteed information on exactly what size your puppy will be or how they will grow up this is real life and there are no guarantees!!! The only thing that is a gurantee is that whatever yorkie you purchase will give you unconditional love and that cannot be said for most people!

Answer by Desert
Submitted on 5/4/2004
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I just took two aspirin after reading over the unbelievable comments tossed about by some here. However, be that as it may, I felt compelled to state that I am a completely satisfied and happy customer of Jeff Dane. I have two very, very small (teacup SIZE) yorkies from him that are awesome pups. They are both almost 6 months old, one is 2.5 lbs, and the other is 1.5 lbs. My main decision criteria for selecting Jeff was due to HIS questions about my knowledge as a good yorkie owner -- that shows he won't sell to 'anyone' (thank goodness) thereby disputing tons of comments here on this board. Jeff was very concerned that I completely understood the ramifications to having a very tiny puppy which I did/do. I've had yorkies all my life most living to 16 y/o's which attests to the care I give them. Yorkies are not for 'everyone'. Small sized yorkies require very special care, knowledge and consideration. Jeff has been involved with yorkies for many, many years and I tested him as thoroughly as he tested me. He has made repeated phone calls and continues, to this day, follow up with emails inquiring about these two great pups. He does NOT have to do that if he were the type of individiual several of you on this board suggested he is. I am more than happy to supply a reference at anytime to questions regarding Jeff. Rather than Buyer Beware, I'd submit Buyer be informed, do your homework and make your OWN decision about what is right for you and the potential animal you purchase.

Answer by gh
Submitted on 5/4/2004
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Mr. Dane, I see you made some more phone calls. I only wish that you could speak for yourself and answer the questions put to you!! That's all I ever expected from you. You have avoided each of them. I expect that's why other breeders are not posting here. You started out doing it to advertise, that's fine. But you left out some info that buyers need to know. Your customers are right about making INFORMED decisions before purchasing their puppies and if I paid 5,000.00 for a dog, I would stand behind the seller also--kind of scarey to think that maybe I made a mistake when that much money is involved. and you were very kind to share with us the amount of money that you make off these puppies---although I think that's a little tacky and very, very sad. I, too am moving on and this will be my last post unless I locate the newspaper atricles I am trying to find. I will post them here. I think you may be surprised--or not. I am moving on to another FAQ board and I hope that you will, also. You help greatly to make my case against on-line breeders by your posts. Good luck to you and especially good luck to the people that pruchase your puupies. I will do all I can on other message boards to let people know that they are buying undersized puppies and that it is NOT in the best interest of the puppies--only to YOUR pocketbook-which you have been so kind to share with us!! LOL Good luck again to you all in finding your puppies---by the way, Mr. Dane---WHAT WAS YOUR GENETIC GUARANTEE AGAIN ON THESE UNDERSIZED PUPPIES?????? I think you forgot to post that!!! LOL LOL (I wrote down addresses for all of you near me and will still e-mail you when the breeder I purchased my "guy" from has a litter--you remember the one with the LIFETIME genetic guarantee???!!! GOOD LUCK ALL

Answer by Tammy
Submitted on 5/4/2004
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It has really sickens me to read these attacks on Jeff Dane by shadows on a web site. In Nov. of last year I bought a yorkie pup from Divapups.com. After I got it home within days she was very sick. When I called Divapups about this they told me the breeder lived in St. Louis and I could contact them. Divapups has never even seen my yorkie in person before I bought it, they only brokered the deal. My heart sank! Then my vet told me this was some what normal with a new pup but I knew in my heart she was dying. I'm sure she would of if it were not for me getting on the Internet and finding Jeff Danes web page. I emailed him, but he told me to call him ASAP. I called and told him I was afraid that my new baby was dying. He assured me he would do what he could to help me through this. Today even though I didn't buy my sweet Allis from Jeff Dane at yorkiepup.com, he stays in contact to see how my baby is doing. Thanks to Jeff I'm now a happy yorkie owner. I'm also a lot wiser. I wish Jeff was the breeder that was selling my Allie when I bought her. I have also found a true friend in Jeff. I will get another yorkie soon and it will come from yorkiepup.com. Thank you so much Jeff for your help. Tammy Gh & Li, please get a life!

Answer by Tiny paws
Submitted on 5/4/2004
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What is with this gh? Does he-she have trouble with her eyes? I don't know Jeff Dane from Adam, but I found his contract link with no problem-http://yorkiecontract.homestead.com/yorkiecontract.html -Being a lawyer, It clearly states he offers a 1 year congential guarantee. He states he will replace the pup if something is wrong in the first year. What am I missing? It looks to me that all the pups he sells are covered big or small. gh must be a kid or very immature. From his web page; (The dog is guaranteed to be in good health at time of delivery. Pups need to see your Vet for a wellness checkup within 48 hours from the date of pickup from me. (Business days) Email or call me with results for your file. This is mandatory to start your 1 year congenital defect guarantee! We will issue a new pup if yours is found to have a congenital defect within the first year. We do not give cash refunds.)

Answer by yorkielover
Submitted on 5/4/2004
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Chris, You are right you are not being rude but you are jumping to a conclusion about someone you know very little about. This is why you need to do your own study and see personally what a person is all about. You read a few posts and now jump to the conclusion that he is not a dog lover or a business man. This is not totally fair to him or to any other breeder. It is hard to find someone that does things or speaks to people the exact way we as individuals feel is the right way. There is a market out there for these babies and they will continue to be sold as long as we the public buy them. If not you then someone else. I am not telling you how you should feel but it would be nice if you took the time to make your own judgments instead of reading a few posts and deciding who's side to be on. Just because someone says pretty words does not mean they have all the answers either. I was not called and told to post a reply here, I just get tired of one or two people thinking they have been left in charge to right all the wrongs. Especially when they do not have all the answers themselves! To go out of your way to post nasty things about people, what does that say for that person, Maybe if you don't agree with them ---- then you must be wrong???

Answer by ma
Submitted on 5/4/2004
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You're right, yorkie lover, the nasty things that Mr. Dane said about people he doesn't know are unwarranted. Everyone has the right to their own likes and dislikes. This is a faq board--all li and gh and everyone else are doing is posting facts. All anyone did was ask Mr.. Dane questions . Why doesn't he just answer them and not get so mad at people? I myself don't understand why either. But why is he ashamed to answer that question from the people above that have asked him? I am going to do my own research and see how long it takes genetic problems to surface--maybe everyone else should do that also! I think gh is being sarcastic, Tiny Paws--you missed that! The point is not that we don't know his guarantee-I just looked it up..it's that's Mr. Dane is avoiding the question. Of course we can all buy our puppies anywhere we want. But why is Mr. Dane and everyone that is speaking for him so hostile? It makes me know where not to buy my puppy..that's for sure! If he would speak for himself and answer questions, no one would have anything to say. Why this ever turned into being about him in the first place is still not clear. He advertised here and was asked questions he could not or would not answer-makes me suspicious, too.

Answer by nick
Submitted on 5/4/2004
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I didn't see any question poised to Mr. Dane that was worth answering. All the answers are listed right on his web page just go and look, I found them. Mr. Dane sounds like he knows his business and yorkies. These people who are writing here in Jeff Dane's defence have busy lifes, but they still found time to back up Mr. Dane, that means something to me. Where are all the dissatisfied buyers? One phantom named "Sue" or should I say li? Everyone else here unless they breed and sell dogs is only guessing. My wife and I have been looking for a yorkie for few weeks now. All the sites we have looked at have a 90 day to 1 year guarantee on congential defects, its pretty standard. If this gh was so proud of the breeder with the lifetime guarantee why does she not list the persons web site or number? What is the big secret? We will be buying a pup from Jeff Dane over Mothers Day this weekend.

Answer by yorkielover
Submitted on 5/4/2004
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MA --- You must have me confused, I never said anything bad about Jeff Dane, I think the remarks made about him are unwarranted!!! No one is really doing their homework, they are just jumping to conclusions about someone they have no personal knowledge of at all!!! Before you decide to condemn someone, you should check them out personally and not just take someone else's word.....How can you say someone is not a yorkie lover or a good business man when you know NOTHING about them? Give me a break, I doubt if this was set up to just listen to people bad mouth breeders they do not agree with. A few people ask simple questions and then others had to turn it into some kind of war zone!!! A simple answer to most questions would have been sufficient, but that would have been wayyyy to simple. It gave some people a chance to jump on their band wagon and try to teach everyone just how knowledgeable they were!!! Everyone is always going to have different opinions and different outlooks on things,,,,,,,,, I think Jeff Dane is a very very caring man, yes he makes money, but last time I checked this is America and that is what we have the freedom to do!!! These dogs are not being sacrificed or put in danger - He DOES NOT breed the tiny females, so when in doubt PLEASE do your own homework and stop listening to everyone else............. If Jeff is so bad where are the unsatisfied customers????? Why has he been in business so long??????? When in doubt, why not actually pay a visit to his place, the way most of these people are talking is it any wonder he has trouble being perfectly polite all the time????????

Answer by Li
Submitted on 5/4/2004
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I have read most of these posts since my last posting, haven't been able to get back here until now as I work for a living to support my dogs and my family. As I mentioned previously I am an avid Yorkie fancier and also a Yorkie breeder but I show my dogs and pay attention to what the breed is about. Actually I do have further credentials in that I have a Bachelor's degree in a Science discipline from an accredited University with a 4th year genetics background. I have been in purebred dogs, Yorkies only, about 8 years now and will never use my dogs to make a living. Between work and my dogs, I put in about an 16 hour day and I don't have many dogs but I do have reputable 30 years at it, show breeders, to guide me and I have learned a lot in the last 8 years. And I have taught a lot to breeder friends with my educational background. I stumbled over this board some time ago and only posted to give the option for potential puppy buyers to consider the information I have provided before making that important purchase. If they don't like your act, Mr. Dane, that is their right. This is a free country and that means these people also are entitled to all the information not just what you say. If what you say makes sense to them, so be it. If what I and gh and others say on this topic makes sense to these potential buyers then so be it. If someone reads this board and buys from you or someone like you that is their decision. By the way, there is a difference between a genetic problem and a congenital problem. No breeder will give a blanket coverage on health as problems can come up which could be due to the care by the owner or even the Veterinarian the person has been going to. A genetic problem such a liver shunt can show up in Yorkies as late as 5 or 6 years of age for example. I thought you knew it all Jeff, and yet you don't know the difference between a genetic and congenital defect? Genetic means it is carried in the genetic code. It can skip generations, it may need a certain other loci to be expressed, may be a serious problem or not so serious problem. A congenital defect is not genetic, a spontaneous problem comes up that is not in the genetic code, has not appeared in previous generations and is usually present and noticeable at birth or within the first months of life. I prefer to remain unknown for two reasons. As a reputable breeder, I do not sell puppies by advertising on the Internet and do not want to respond to enquiries for puppies from this board or any other. I never ship any puppies anyway as I must meet and approve any prospective buyers first. The second reason is that I do not wish to be personally attacked on my email address by 'teacuppers' or anyone else that may not agree with me. This keeps it a public forum, so anything anyone has to say will be read by everyone else as well. Back to work to support my dogs and family. Later. Li

Answer by Sandy
Submitted on 5/4/2004
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I can recommend Jeff Dane and www.yorkiepup.com to those considering a teacup sized Yorkshire terrier. I spent a month doing research, surfing the Internet, looking at web sites, and reading classified ads. I am an empty nester and the death of my loving cat had ripped a hole in my being that my large dog couldn�t fill. I had been talking about wanting a pocket puppy for years. I had plenty of time to dedicate and after talking seriously to two breeders of show dogs I determined that what I really wanted was an even smaller Yorkie companion that would return the affection I had to give. At www.yorkiepup.com there were three 9-� week old gold and black female puppies weighing in at under 1lb 2ozs that I found attractive. Jeff listened to what I wanted and recommended another littermate. This puppy�s colors and size were the same as the others, but her picture didn�t do her justice according to Jeff, and even more important her personality was just what I was asking for. At five months old our Lexia is still a major attraction in public. She collects crowds even when she�s sleeping. Her long puppy coat is black with a rich gold on her face and legs. She loves to sleep on my arm with her body held by my fingers and her head resting on my wrist. She�s tiny, weighing in at less than 2 pounds her body can fit comfortably in my large fanny pack or rest in a small black mesh dog carrier that looks like a purse when I go into stores. From her nose to the tip of her tail she measures in at less than 12 inches. She looks proportionate, just like a tiny version of a normal size Yorkie. I can�t say enough about Jeff�s breeding program. Lexia is not a shy, shivery, or barky puppy. She knew her name when she arrived. Everyone loves her! She is outgoing, extremely affectionate, and has an outstanding personality. She is generous with her kisses and approaches everyone. She likes being held, but is happy doing her own thing. If you�re into petting instead, she�ll oblige by rolling over to have her tummy rubbed. She loves our large German Shepherd, plays with other dogs, and horses don�t frighten her. On the down side, Lexia didn�t like to eat and tiny puppies are prone to hypoglycemia. We got through those moments with Jeff�s help and patience. Even after her dinner, an active evening, and Nutra-Cal before bed there were mornings when low blood sugar made Lexia totally unresponsive. Lots of Nutra-Cal, late dinners, special treats, and drinking more prevented occurrences. Now she is more resilient and extremely healthy. I don�t let her stress; I�m never out of her sight and I take her everywhere. If you have the time to love one of these little ones I would recommend Jeff Dane�s teacup Yorkies. Shipping Lexia across the US was not a problem for her

Answer by hellokitty
Submitted on 5/4/2004
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Everyone, get a grip! Why is Jeff angry? You are personally attacking his business without having first-hand knowledge of his facility or him personally. Your statements are falsely giving the impression that he is some kind of uncaring, money hungry salesman who completely disappears after the sale. This is not true. I purchased a yorkie from Jeff in October and anytime I had a question, Jeff replied within minutes most of the time, a couple of hours at most a few times. He is very knowledgeable and helpful any time I need him. My "Trixie" is about 9 mos. old now and besides a minor respiratory infection when I brought her home (not unheard of in kennels no matter whose it is or how big the dogs are) she has been completely healthy ever since. She is extremely active and spunky and I would not trade her for anything in this world. I purchased another dog from Jeff a few weeks ago and she is healthy thus far. A friend of mine has purchased three dogs from Jeff and they are happy and healthy dogs also. I will say that smaller dogs CAN have more health problems but that doesn't mean they WILL. I knew this before I visited his kennel. Once I visited Jeff's kennel and saw how clean it was and how he cared for his dogs and how healthy the pups were, I felt comfortable purchasing a pup from him. Each time, I spent at least an hour on the ground while letting my puppy choose me. He was patient and answered all of my questions. As far as the price I paid for each dog...it was high, frankly bordering on ridiculous. BUT, I would do it all over again and would not trade them for any amount of money in the world. Jeff is a businessman a makes no bones about it. He admitted that. He is providing a service that people want and maybe some people disagree with that but everyone should do their own research prior to selecting a breeder. Buying a puppy is a personal decision and you have to be comfortable with the breeder you choose. Do your research, visit different breeders and make your own decision based on how you think and feel, not how anyone else is telling you to.

Answer by bet.
Submitted on 5/4/2004
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It is interesting to read these little puffs of insanity. First of all, the saddest part of this whole "answer session" is that you people have no more to your lives than sitting around debating the merits of what a "teacup yorkie" is. Get a life(or maybe a job) I bought a teacup from Jeff for $5000.00. That's the best money I've ever spent. I love him and he only weighs 2 pounds. That's probably more love per pound than I have for my kids. You guys are pathetic. Get a life and leave Jeff alone. He has been able to make a nice living by making people happy, providing a product that people are willing to pay for. If people can afford these pups and are willing to spend their hard earned money for them, that's OK. You can be bitter because you can't afford one and it is very obvious. My suggestion is that you get a job that will allow you to buy one, and you will be happy too. Or, you can get a dog from the pound.

Answer by Li
Submitted on 5/5/2004
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For anyone interested in checking out genetic problems that can be possible in the Yorkshire Terrier as part of your research on the breed, check into Liver shunts Legge-perthes epilepsy Liver shunt has been a bit of a poser as the Veterinarian specialists have not had the equipment necessary to diagnose shunts that left no doubt until the last few years. Previous to that, a Yorkie could die or be ill with a 'liver ailment' without knowing what was going on. Unfortunately, a shunt cannot be detected in postmortem exams. The information I got in the last month or so was in conversation with a Veterinarian specialist in California as I was trying to find some information for a friend of mine. According to this specialist, he is convinced shunts are hereditary and he cited one Yorkie that didn't exhibit signs of a shunt until it was almost 8 years old. Traditionally, it is found that they are a much higher risk the smaller the Yorkie full size to have a shunt or other problem which can be enzymic, compromised organ function, glandular being the three main causes. It is still a possibility in a Yorkie reaching mature size of say 5 lbs and up for a shunt or other problem but much less likely the larger the Yorkie. Legge-Perthe can show up in any sized Yorkie and it is on the onus of the breeder to know their lines well enough to be sure it is Legge-Perthe free. I am not going to bother posting here what that is unless someone asks. Hopefully, with this basic information, anyone checking into Yorkshire Terriers will know what they are looking for and listening for when they talk to a breeder. Shunts are also a problem in Maltese. Any breeder you are dealing with should have some sort of rudimentary knowledge of any genetic or other problems that can occur in whatever breed they have. Common sense I think Li

Answer by TomTom
Submitted on 5/5/2004
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Chris, you did say, and I'll guote you from your post above; "Jeff Dane is not a dog lover or a business man". Hummmm? Sounds to me like you said he is not a dog lover. Now you are saying you didn't say that "I am not stating that he is not a dog lover"? You must be voting for Kerry so you can have it both ways. I also read above that Jeff said he runs a $12 million dollar dog breeding business. The buildings, land, dogs, assets, ect. are worth $12 miliion, he said nothing about his income mister, I have to work for cardinal Health. Seems to me he way more of a business man than you. He is self employed and signs the front of the checks, you have to sign the back! And who gives a rats ass who you think you are? No matter how big and bad you think you are, there is ALWAYS someone who can kick your ass. Ask Pat Tilman.

Answer by TomTom
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Chris, you did say, and I'll quote you from your post above; "Jeff Dane is not a dog lover or a business man". Hummmm? Sounds to me like you said he is not a dog lover. Now you are saying you didn't say that "I am not stating that he is not a dog lover"? You must be voting for Kerry so you can have it both ways. I also read above that Jeff said he runs a $12 million dollar dog breeding business. The buildings, land, dogs, assets, ect. are worth $12 million, he said nothing about his income mister, I have to work for cardinal Health. Seems to me he way more of a business man than you. He is self employed and signs the front of the checks, you have to sign the back! And who gives a rats ass who you think you are? No matter how big and bad you think you are, there is ALWAYS someone who can kick your ass. Ask Pat Tillman.

Answer by Li
Submitted on 5/6/2004
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If you think signing the front of a paycheck makes someone an ethical businessman, guess you are even more naive than I thought. Ethical in business? Well I would think that would be how a business is conducted and run by that person which means such things as ethics and not just about how to make as much money as fast as you can. There is never shame in signing the back of a check. That means you can be relied on to do a good job for whatever it is you are doing if you are an ethical employee. Again, I am a breeder that shows my dogs and I work very hard to earn money to support my family and dogs. I would never live off the money from dogs or my family. Any money I get for the few puppies I sell in a year goes back to help pay Vet and food bills for the dogs. The dogs care is mostly supplementws from my own earnings. Interesting how Jeff Dane's supporters are going on about their wonderful teacup Yorkies the oldest at age 4 years in these posts so far. Haven't heard anything as of yet about that little 2 1/2 lb'er reaching 10 14 or maybe 16 years which many 4 or 5 lbs and up Yorkies reach. Interesting how some information posts on the matter of an undersized breed of dog turned into such a fight. I say again, for information on the 'teacup' Yorkie go to the website at www.ytca.org that is the Yorkshire Terrier Club of America site. Under Frequently Asked Questions it will explain all about them as well as answer many questions about Yorkies. If this post has gotten just one more person rethinking the idea of purchasing a 'teacup' Yorkie or whatever term is used for extreme undersize, then it was worth the few minutes it took to post it. Li

Answer by TomTom
Submitted on 5/6/2004
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Li, You are a back yard breeder. A hobby breeder, nothing more. I know many people who show dogs, those animals are genetic nightmares. Show breeders breed mother to son, father to daughter just to get that ear, leg, or what ever they feel the last test run didn't get right. Show dogs are locked away in small pens to protect the hair, given massive amounts of antiboitics to lighten the hair or when needed, dyes are used to darken the hair. I don't see why you are even here. Your kind abuses animals! I bet the show dogs just love to wrapped up in aluminum foil to protect their hair, locked in a 24 inch x 24 inch cage till the next show, being dosed in God knows what for days just to get that certain hair. You and your kind are abusive to animals, period!

Answer by samantha
Submitted on 5/6/2004
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This message is to the people who are attacking Jeff Dane's reputation. I purchased two Yorkies from Jeff, and have been reading these emails for several days now. First, let me tell you that I wanted small Yorkies and researched carefully before purchasing my two girls. One is 2 years old and 3.5 lbs. and the other is 1 1/2 years old and is 4.5 lbs. Both are healthy, and have been from the beginning. I have also purchased two Yorkies from Jeff as gifts for my family, and they too, are happy, healthy little dogs. I don't believe that small breeders who only sell a few puppies per year have the corner on the HEALTHY DOG MARKET. This is absolutely ridiculous. I am proud to say that Jeff has always been there for help with my girls. He enjoys the pictures he receives (which are many), and is always helpful with advice with anything to do with them. The reason I purchased from Jeff was I could tell that it was not going to be "A Hit And Run," like many breeders. How many purchases do you make in life that have this type of service???? I can't think of many. And, Jeff has many happy customers that would stand strong in this line. Just look at his happy customer list. Also, when it comes to Teacup, he has always been clear it is a description. I have been amazed at the mileage some people get out of that description. And, Jeff didn't come up with that name on his own, there are many breeders who use that title to describe tiny dogs. Jeff also told me there is no standard for Teacup Yorkies, and that didn't matter to me, I just wanted Yorkies that would remain small after maturity. Not many people are so ignorant that they do not understand this, and it is almost laughable, that people make such a big deal of this. And, they use chat rooms to churn this message over and over and over. Don't these people have anything else to do???? Yes, Jeff makes money from his business. Yes, Jeff works very hard towards raising healthy Yorkies for his customers. Are there going to be 100% totally satisfied customers in any business??? No, of course not, but Jeff works hard to keep that percentage high. Yes, his hard work pays off and creates the American Dream of owning his own business. I think a big part of the problem here is that many of the people involved in these discussions are jealous of Jeff and his business successs. It is a shame in this country when people's petty jealousies cause them to attack hard-working, successful people. It appears obvious to me that most of these people do not have their own businesses, or they would understand the significance of signing the "Front of the Check," instead of the back. I have owned many business, and most were successful. None were without tremdous pressure, and there is no comparison to working for someone else. Yes, we need good employees, and I have had my share, but without entrepreneurs, this country would not be the same. So.......let's celebrate that there are EMPLOYERS out there, because without them, there would be nothing for the EMPLOYEES to do. It has to start someplace, and it usually starts with someone who has the guts and the hard-earned savings to start businesses that keep this country going. Now, regarding Jeff's temper.....yes, he has one. Again, until you own something of your own, you would not understand how important it is to defend your good name. Unfortunately, the internet has become a place where people can easily slander someone's good name without penalty. However, I hope the day will come when our common law will have precedent with cases that will shut these people up, or at the least, make them be careful of slanderous remarks. Yes, Jeff has a temper, and you take advantage of it by saying provocative things that make him want to defend himself and his business. And, as you have noticed, there are many happy customers who come to his defense. My suggestion would be first to move on to something more important to attack than this subject that has been Beat to Death. Maybe this time could be spent taking courses to improve your financial situation (since you obviously seem concerned about Jeff making too much money). Maybe you would not spend your time counting someone else's money, if you had more of your own. Or, if you are as idealistic and non-materialistic as you come across, maybe you could pick another cause, because Jeff's puppies are doing fine. It seems to me that you spend so much time churning the same old stuff, that you should take on a new cause. Maybe some additional education would help with this new cause. There are plenty of good causes out there that need people to donate their time, even causes that help dogs. Also, I have heard Jeff ask for the list of people you keeping talking about that either give away tiny Yorkies or sell them for cheap, because they do not meet the "Standard." You have never supplied him with this list. Could you please supply this list so we could all see it. I think it would help your credibility immensely if you could provide this list. I am amazed if this is actually the practice, and would want to contact each and every breeder to confirm. In conclusion, most people are bright enough to figure things out on their own. Let them decide if Jeff is or is not the breeder of choice. Let them hear your side and his too. That way, the buyers can make an educated choice, one that includes both sides and not just one. Samanatha

Answer by yorkielover
Submitted on 5/6/2004
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Li, it sounds as if you are almost hoping our tiny babies don't make it to a very ripe old age, just so you can say I told you so!!! My baby will have the happiest life possible for AS long as she lives and will bring me utter and complete joy! So will my 7 lb baby, there are no guarantees in this life regardless of your beliefs... Even if I had a lifetime guarantee on my baby do you really really think she could be replaced??? I don't think so! The guarantee is not worth the paper it is written on because no other puppy could replace the ones I already have --------- You see that is true love and unconditional!!! So I hope if you think you are doing someone a favor by denying them the love these babies can give, I hope maybe you will stop and think again! Everybody deserves to know the happiness they can bring, Even YOU!!! Chris, what are you going to do prove how manly you are just because you can beat someone up? That is as immature as anything that has been said on this site! Just because someone calls you on what you have stated is no reason to beat them up!!! I feel bad for anyone that has a differing opinion than you! I thought we were all welcome to our own beliefs without fear of retaliation! Just because someone is saying something you deem immature, maybe you should take the high road and ignore it instead of stooping to something at an even lower level!

Answer by samantha
Submitted on 5/6/2004
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I just read the message from Julie wanting a tiny, tiny Yorkie or Poodle for $200.00. Julie, you should ask Li or gh who have had several messages on this website where to get this tiny, tiny dog. They say that Good, Reputable breeders either give them away or sell them for cheap because they do not fit the standard. Ask these two ladies for a list the breeders they keep talking about. I would be interested to see if it really exists. Hey li/gh, time to put up or shut up. Help this lady out by telling her where she can get a tiny, tiny "Teacup" Yorkie, with a lifetime guarantee for $200.00. Or if it is really little, maybe you can find her one for free. I am assuming from your past messages, that the smaller they are, the closer to free they are. Julie.......Since these ladies have written volumes on this subject, they should be able to help you get the tiny, tiny puppy you want for the price you want. And, to get a lifetime guarantee on top of free or cheap, what more could you want? Let us know what these two ladies tell you. I am sure I speak for most of the others that we are very interested in their response/responses. Samantha

Answer by Li
Submitted on 5/6/2004
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No point in attacking me. It only proves that you know I am right. As far as life longevity of these tiny Yorkies, the odds are against a long lifetime as a matter of fact, not fancy. I am sorry but it has nothing to do with my attitude on these little creatures, facts are facts. For anyone considering purchasing one, why not check with a couple of local Veterinarians and ask if they have any experience with these undersize Yorkies. Better yet, get in touch with a Veterinary College, especially those researching various genetic problems such as liver shunt for example and the general health of a very undersized Yorkie or Veterinary Critical Care hospitals. They often are the ones that end up dealing with these problems. It doesn't matter if you believe me or not. I have learned my information from the experts such as Veterinary Specialists and organizations that are learning about the genetic problems, where and how they occur and how they can be predicted, and avoided. For anyone who has a tiny Yorkie, I sincerely hope it doesn't turn into a tragedy. It doesn't really matter what you decide or think, your decision to buy one of these is entirely up to you. As I stated before, with my information I have provided and will continue to provide, if the result is that each person that rethinks purchasing an undersized Yorkie is one more person that 'gets it'. No, show breeders do not 'inbreed' as you are suggesting. You don't know them or anything about them. Most pet Yorkies purchased from show breeders run a lifespan of 14 to 16 years and are not 'kept alive' because the owner can't part with them. This is just a fairly normal lifespan of quality Yorkies. They are still enjoying a reasonably good quality of life even at that age. Backyard breeders don't show their dogs, they are just one step up from a puppymill in that they do give reasonable care to their dogs, just have no idea on the backgrounds of their dogs and usually end up with puppies with all sorts of problems later on. Many don't have that many dogs either. But I guess it is hard to banter terminolgy when you just don't know. It is so boring having a battle of wits and/or knowledge with people so unarmed. I am only doing this to hopefully save just one more buyer from buying a very undersized Yorkie without considering what they could be getting into. Back to work to care for and support my dogs and family. I never use my dogs for that. Before anyone purchases a very undersized Yorkie go find the message board from the 'teacup' Yorkie owner that has spent $25,000 in Vet bills. Her Yorkie is now six years old and has had numerous health issues requiring substantial Vet care, which she realizes now that is why this little thing was so tiny. And before you go there, no she was not neglectful, this is just what happens or can happen in these tiny ones more often than not. Li

Answer by samanatha
Submitted on 5/6/2004
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This is for Chris. Chris I have read your two messages. Do you think that your peers of United States Navy Seal Veterans would be pleased that you got on a website, and implied you would get physical with someone over Yorkie talk? I am assuming that is what you meant when you said you couldn't wait until Tom-Tom read your response and saw your past ranking. What was supposed to happen after Tom-Tom read this? Should Tom-Tom be afraid? I have a couple more questions. First, you said that Jeff is not a dog lover, and in the second message you said you didn't say that. What do you really think? Is Jeff a dog lover or not? Are you saying that anyone who sells puppies for a high price cannot love dogs? I guess I don't see the connection. It doesn't seem to me that the two things automatically go together. Maybe you could explain. Also, maybe you could explain something else. You said you were V.P. of Treasury Managment for a health company, and you didn't take personal attacks. What does one have to do with the other? Do all Vice Presidents of Treasury Management not take personal attacks? Is that what you meant? I have never met a Vice President of Treasury, so I wouldn't know, but was surprised to hear that not taking personal attacks was a prerequisite for your job. I have owned several companies, and have never had prerequisites like these. How strange. Also, You condemned Jeff for talking about money. However, I found your arrogant statements about the implication of the physical abuse you could do if some of us were to meet you face to face, bragging about your past military title, and boasting about your current V.P. position at a health company much more offensive than Jeff explaining how much money he had been spent building his business. You said you are a Vice President for someone else, so I am assuming that you don't own a business. Like Tom-Tom said, it is different when you sign the check from the front instead of on the back. There are risks and rewards for owning your own business, and unless you have been there, it is difficult to judge. If you were able to look at the attack messages sent to Jeff as a business owner, maybe your whole perspective would be different. Samantha

Answer by Li
Submitted on 5/7/2004
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Samantha, I will try to explain to you again how it works with very undersized Yorkies with reputable breeders. I cannot refer anyone on this message board looking specifically for a 'teacup' free or any price. Any reputable breeder that produces a puppy that will mature to less than about 3 1/2 lbs does not sell or give them to unknown people just looking for a Yorkie. If I ever produce any puppies that will be less than 3 1/2 lbs, it does not leave my premises until over six months and that is if the bile acid tests show normal and blood panel also shows normal. As the puppy ages and matures, there are still risks especially in the first two years of its life that something is wrong and can still turn up. The smaller that puppy looks like it will be the more cautious I am. Then I will give it to a friend I am well acquainted with or a Yorkie owner that I am well acquainted with, who already has one of my puppies and if they want it and I have fully informed them of the risks. If no one does want to take the risks of dealing with the very real possibility of losing that puppy, it stays with me. I cannot refer prospective 'teacup' puppy buyers to anybody that purposely breeds for them and advertises as such because in my opinion, I feel this is not the right thing to be doing. That is my opinion and I am as entitled to it just as you or anyone else is entitled to theirs. I have not brought other reputable breeders to this board to help substantiate what I have been saying because I don't need to. As I said in my previous post to anyone looking for 'teacup' anything, get in touch with breed clubs, Veterinarians, Veterinarian Critical Care Hospitals, Veterinary Emergency Hospitals, as all of the professionals have likely dealt with or seen the very undersized Yorkie and can fully fill you in on their possibilities for health problems. Make sure you contact a few of them to get the real picture. There is also information on various sites about liver shunts and their correlation to the occurance in undersized representatives of the breed. Li

Answer by Li
Submitted on 5/7/2004
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Supply a list of reputable breeders on this message board??? Are you kidding? Number one none of us work that way and number two by the aggression you have exhibited here,on a public board for all to see and read, I would never ever put any information that could allow you to privately launch your attacks on anyone. I have seen and read way more on this board from Jeff Dane and his fans than I would ever have liked to have known about anybody and likely wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't read it myself. As nobody else seems to be posting here anymore that is actually contributing anything useful, I think this is my last post. I have put all the information that anyone needs to research before purchasing a puppy. Ta ta off to work and look after my dogs and family that I don't make my living off of. Li

Answer by Desert
Submitted on 5/7/2004
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Li, we've read all of your information before and it was not what Samantha directly asked you for. You claim there are tiny, tiny yorkies out there for 'free' and Julie above is looking for one for $200.00. Since you've advertised this is the case, let's see the list please, and not how you work for a living to take care of your dogs. Any health problems can develop with any animal. I had one 3 lb. yorkie that lived to be 16 y/o with absolutely NO issues. From your messages, I'm now convinced that you'd steer everyone away from these smaller animals therefore, perhaps you would just like to see them all put down as they apparently have no chance at life anyway. If noone ever takes one into their home then there is no place in this world for them per your continual bantering on how you want to save just one more buyer from making some sort of guaranteed tragic decision. I am so grateful we live in a country that 'choice' is our greatest weapon. Everyone has the power of choice, including taking into their home a tiny yorkie if they wish to or not.

Answer by samantha
Submitted on 5/7/2004
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Li.........I knew there would not be a list. You expect Jeff and other breeders to answer each and every question you and others like you have. Then, you take responses, and pick them to pieces. However, when you are asked to back up the most important component of your argument, you back down, and basically tell us it is a secret. I am so happy I found Jeff's website, because now I have my two Yorkie babies. It would have been difficult to find them your way since it is such a secret. Also, you never responded to a message about show dogs. It seems that your goal is to breed to have show dogs, and yet many of us don't see that as such a good life. My girls have three homes with secure yards, plenty of running and playing, hair combed and teeth brushed every day, routine care at the vet, the best homemade food, and most of all, lots and lots of love. They are never locked in a cage, and have carseats with their names monogrammed on them. They have sweaters and harnesses of many colors and styles, and most people think they are beautiful, and I of course, agree. You see Li/gh, the money just doesn't matter. What does matter is Jeff matched me up with puppies that were perfect, and are loved more and more each day. In closing, maybe some of these messages will cause you to better understand why Jeff's happy customers defend him. I would not have my babies without him, and am grateful that he was available when I purchased them. He doesn't have to be, but is still available for them two years later. He is not the cold businessman you want people to think he is. From my perspective, and from the perspective of many others, he does care.......very much. Samantha

Answer by Chris Reed
Submitted on 5/7/2004
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Li, that is nothing! I have spent $250,000 on my little yorkie. I wish it was bigger, I have bought every product that comes to my email daily with claims to enlarge my yorkie. Claims of "Get that big yorkie you always wanted", "Impress you mate & friends with you huge yorkie", all these have only cost me a lot of money, and still mine remains "Undersized". You are right Li, my little yorkie has cost me a ton of cash, and still my yorkie remains tiny no matter how much I pet it. And house training, my God Li, I spank my tiny yorkie daily, but all it does is lay around, limp all day. Li I really need to know the correct technique to get the most out of spanking my tiny yorkie. I look to you to post messages on this page everyday about the care of my tiny yorkie. Maybe you could give me a hands on demonstration? I have also read here you know many breeders with tiny yorkies that I can hold for free, but dammit, now above you say that you don't work that way. Maybe you could post that list just for me to see so I could get in touch & maybe look at other tiny yorkies owned by tough men like me. My yorkie has not been sick ever since I moved away from San Franisco, where I used to walk my tiny yorkie with other tough guys yorkies, sometimes two or three at a time! Li, I know you have a really big brain, because you keep telling us how smart you are. So I would think your head must Titanic sized!. Ta ta for now, have to go work so I can support my small yorkie. Li, starting today, I'm going to measure my brain everyday, so I to can have big head like you! Chris-Ex Navy Seal, VP of the tough guys with "Undersized" yorkies.

Answer by Desert
Submitted on 5/7/2004
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In summary: #1 Li works for a living to take care of her dogs and family. #2 Li conforms to the double-standard meaning it's ok for Li to attack others, but not the other way around. #3 Li does not want anyone on the face of this earth to ever buy a small sized yorkie. #4 Li loathes Jeff Dane, attacks without ever speaking to the man nor visiting his kennels to see the care he takes for them. #5 Li is disgruntled as there are testaments that refute her arguments so it's the 'give up' attitude. #6 Li reportedly knows all kinds of people who do sell small tiny yorkies that cost very little or are free with lifetime genetic guarantees but refuses to offer up that information. Think that about sums it up. On the positive side, I can support Jeff Dane and thoroughly attest to the pups I've received from him, plus his continual nagging at me to ensure they are doing well. Tiny yorkies are a big consideration only in how they are cared for, whether their personality matches the owner's lifestyle, etc. etc. adnosium -- just like any other small tiny dog. It's truly that simple and truly a consumer choice armed with appropriate knowledge. The end.

Answer by Charliebear
Submitted on 5/9/2004
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Just wondering...I'm very close to buying a yorkie from Divapup, and I would first like to say that they have been very helpful. They have answered all my questions, talking to me online for almost 2 hours last night without hesitation or making me feel like I Shouldn't be asking questions. The yorkie I am about to buy is APR and AKC registered, a female expected to weigh 4 pounds. She is $2250. I'm very excited about this, but now worried. I know the puppy is with them at their house because she weighed her and sent me pictures of her online when I requested them, and they were new ones. Also, she will be flown here, but they do not put them in the cargo area. THE DOG WOULD FREEZE TO DEATH. they are sent on a plan with a warm, pressurized cabin. IF this puppy is registered with the APR and the AKC, doesn't that say something?

Answer by Tammy
Submitted on 5/9/2004
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Charliebear; In Nov. of last year I bought a yorkie pup from Divapups.com. After I got it home within days she was very sick. When I called Divapups about this they told me the breeder lived in St. Louis and I could contact them. Divapups has never even seen my yorkie in person before I bought it, they only brokered the deal. My heart sank! Then my vet told me this was some what normal with a new pup but I knew in my heart she was dying. I'm sure she would of if it were not for me getting on the Internet and finding Jeff Danes web page. I emailed him, but he told me to call him ASAP. I called and told him I was afraid that my new baby was dying. He assured me he would do what he could to help me through this. Today even though I didn't buy my sweet Allis from Jeff Dane at yorkiepup.com, he stays in contact to see how my baby is doing. Thanks to Jeff I'm now a happy yorkie owner. I'm also a lot wiser. I wish Jeff was the breeder that was selling my Allie when I bought her. I have also found a true friend in Jeff. I will get another yorkie soon and it will come from yorkiepup.com. Thank you so much Jeff for your help. Tammy Charliebear, Diva also told me my Allie was there with them when I first called about her. Then when I started having problems, then said they never really seen her in person. Call jeff at yorkiepup or look at his teacup page. Be smart, shop around.

Answer by luvmypup
Submitted on 5/9/2004
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OMG!!!!! This is the saddest thing I have ever seen!! WELCOME TO THE "JEFF DANE CANNOT SPEAK FOR HIMSELF" message board--of course I wonder how many of these posts are actually by Jeff under a new s/n!!! A businessman who cannot speak for himself is a frightening thing!! I came here for information from someone who is supposed to be professional!!! I guess I would be called a tire kicker for asking him uncomfortable questions. You all better jump to another message board because thankfully gh and li are helping educate people on many more boards--seems you are all talking to each other on this one. Mr. Dane--if I were you, I would ask my customers to stop helping me because I wanted to get info and make a decision as to whether or not to buy on-line. You and your customers have helped me make a DEFINITE decison NOT to! Your customers are rude, name-callers and if that is supposed to represent you in a good way, I'd hate to see them HURT you!! I won't come back to this board because I'm sure your relatives friends, and yourself will attack me. I expect answers when I ask someone who calls themselves professional a question. The answers are obviously not on this board. This is just a fan club now

Answer by buzzlightyear
Submitted on 5/10/2004
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I have a 3 pound yorkie named Buzz Lightyear who is healthy and happy to date (he is only 4 months old). They have told me he will be about 4-5 pounds. The vet tells me he is healthy so far. Buzz is the best thing that has happened to me. After reading these postings for about an hour, I must admit, you all scare me a lot. You have made me nervous about a dog who has only made me joyful. If I worried his whole life about how healthy he is going to be, I would never enjoy Buzz. When I bought him, I made a commitment to him to love him unconditionally (in sickness and in health) So for those of you who are looking: Read a lot of books on how to take care of your dog, choose a puppy with someone who makes you feel right in your gut about your decision. If it sounds too good to be true, don't do it. If you can't afford it, don't do it. If you can't devote your life to a new addition to your family, don't do it. And for those of you scaring people, you should be ashamed. There is a difference between informing people and telling them your story. Why do you feel like you can comment on every single person's response?? We all know a "teacup" does not exist, okay, move on....let people make their own decision because they are the ones who have to live with it. Please do not be scared by some of these postings, these people have nothing better to do. I went on this board to learn positive advice and tips for loving my yorkie, instead you are using your words and strong opinions to frighten people and make yourself feel more important because you think your word is gospel. Stop preaching and start loving your dog.

Answer by Nick
Submitted on 5/10/2004
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Well we bought a little male from Jeff at yorkiepup.com this Mother's Day weekend. We named him Homer and he weighs 1.5 lbs at 3.5 months old. He is the love of our family now. He came well socialized, papertrained, and was very well groomed. Thank you Jeff Dane for all you did for us when we visited your kennel. Your place of business was the who who's of dog kennels and my wife and I have visited many when we were pup shopping. I loved your automatic clean flush system. I have never seen that used in a kennel before, thanks for showing that feature to me. Your kennel smelled and looked cleaner than most hospitals I've been to and I sell hospital supplies for a living. I will send you pictures of our Homer as he growns. Nick

Answer by newpup
Submitted on 5/11/2004
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MOMO--You must be so sad not to be able to find a puppy!! I wish I could help you....I looked awhile myself. I contacted vets and groomers in a pretty wide area because I didn't want my puppy shipped-I stayed within a days drive.I just kept my name at these places and finally, one of the vets called with a name for me. This is my second yorkie. My other one came from a breeder I found on the internet. I paid much more for him. I found out when he was almost 4 years old that he had a serious problem. I contacted the breeder but my guarantee had expired! I would never give a puppy back--no matter what was wrong with them--they are members of my family from the second I bring them home (I'm a big softy)....but I did want help with the vet bills. So whether you go to the web for a puppy, or not...inform yourself. Don't be afraid-I'm sure most are healthy--just ask for something in writing to protect your PUPPY in case he becomes ill later in life. Like I said, I am doing what I need to do for him on my own because I love him to death. But I am much happier with the terms under which I purchased my new puppy. He was MUCH cheaper also. Remember, advertising costs a lot of money so the breeders understandably have to recoup some of that in the prices of their puppies. So I am happier with a "somewhat" (HAHA) local breeder. The cost was much less, my puppy will be only 4# and I know that if he is ever ill, I have some help. Good luck in your search!!! Puppies are definitely out there--just keep looking. Best to you all!

Answer by newpup
Submitted on 5/11/2004
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I would like to add something to my last post, MOMO. I probably should have known that genetic problems could occur when a dog is older--since it happened to mine. But when I contacted the breeder of my first dog, he told me that it is NOT a common thing, sorry it happened to mine, but the guarantee was expired. I admit I should have done redearch on my own then. I took his word for it. So, a lesson learned...when I began searching for my second puppy, I again started on the web. But I checked these faq boards also. That's when I realized that it IS more common than you might think. So again, I don't say the internet or a breeder that doesn't advertise there is better. I just hope that my story makes you more aware. That's what this board is meant to do. Again..good luck..you will be thrilled with a yorkie.. That is a fact that I doubt anyone on this board will argue with!! Just don't be naive like I was---get your own info--don't believe everything you're told!

Answer by Tracey
Submitted on 5/17/2004
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Jeff, keep your chin up, there's nothing you do that is wrong.I bought Ozzie from you last year and he is the sweetest most precious pup I had ever seen. You went out of your way to ship him very carefully. You even answered my husbands questions while you were at the movies with your family. There are alot of people out there who don't like anyone to get ahead in life. You do your best, and that's what counts. Just from talking to you on the phone I could hear a genuine person. I think if Ozzie would ever, ever have any health problems even when he is much older you would be there for us. So, please do not listen to one word of what these bitter people are saying. Take Care Jeff, Always remember there are alot of good people out there that are backing you up.!!!!!!!!!!!!

Answer by christina
Submitted on 5/20/2004
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This will be my last post... First of all, some advice for Jeff Dane: When someone says something bad about your business, a MATURE adult would not LASH out at that individual. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Also to POSE as people to make others believe your business is credible is extremely sad and THAT DRAWS people away from you. My apologies for saying to STAY AWAY FROM yorkiepups.com but in the website, I do feel terrible for the little puppies. I hope they all go to loving homes but the way you earn your living, making your dogs have puppies for money is shameful. Second of all: This message board should be informational and by attacking other people is wrong, do it elsewhere. (Though it is VERY amusing.) I know everyone is looking out for others by informing them of crooked breeders but you guys are hurting Mr. Dane.

Answer by bluiis
Submitted on 5/20/2004
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I posted here after the loss of my 15 1/2 year old baby, over a month ago.Two weeks ago I found a good breeder and knew the pedigree of her puppies. I put a deposit on her female that seemed wonderful. This sat. she will be 10 weeks and we were going to take her home. She has been eating great, playful and weighs almost 2 lbs. Today the breeder brought her for a check up & the vet said she has a Bilateral system heart murmur. Although she shows no sign of distress, and the breeder has drastically cut her price down to almost nothing, and said if she passes away before she turns one she will apply our purchase price to a new pup I still don't know if I should take her home. The vet said that a heart sonagram would tell where the murmur is and how serious, but wants to wait until the pup is 6-8 months old to get the best results. The test is over $400. I have spent hours tonight on line looking for information. I can find things on heart conditions but nowhere can I find the term "bilateral system murmur". Has any of you heard of it? My little one was diagnosed with a heart murmur when she was 6. I never did any further testing on her for it & it never seemed to make a difference on her behavior. I just don't know if this is a sign this is not the pup for me. I am afraid of falling in love with her & seeing her slowly get worse. On the other hand maybe this will get a little better as she gets older, or at least stay the same & not change her life.We have already chose her name and have gotten the house ready for her. Have any of you ever heard of this condition? Any advise is greatly appreciated. thanks

Answer by bluiis
Submitted on 5/20/2004
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I posted here after the loss of my 15 1/2 year old baby, over a month ago.Two weeks ago I found a good breeder and knew the pedigree of her puppies. I put a deposit on her female that seemed wonderful. This sat. she will be 10 weeks and we were going to take her home. She has been eating great, playful and weighs almost 2 lbs. Today the breeder brought her for a check up & the vet said she has a Bilateral system heart murmur. Although she shows no sign of distress, and the breeder has drastically cut her price down to almost nothing, and said if she passes away befor she turns one she will apply our purchase price to a new pup I still don't know if I should take her home. The vet said that a heart sonagram would tell where the murmur is and how serious, but wants to wait until the pup is 6-8 months old to get the best results. The test is over $400. I have spent hours tonight on line looking for information. I can find things on heart conditions but nowhere can I find the term "bilateral system murmur". Has any of you heard of it? My little one was diagnosed with a heart murmur when she was 6. I never did any further testing on her for it & it never seemed to make a difference on her behavior. I just don't know if this is a sign this is not the pup for me. I am afraid of falling in love with her & seeing her slowly get worse. On the other hand maybe this will get a little better as she gets older, or at least stay the same & not change her life.We have already chose her name and have gotten the house ready for her. Have any of you ever heard of this condition? Any advise is greatly appreciated. thanks

Answer by bluiis
Submitted on 5/21/2004
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Gh, What has been going on at this site? I almost missed your question scrolling through the fight. Anyway, I called my vet last night and asked what he thought. He said "do not buy the puppy". The honest breeder herself said she can feel the murmur as she holds the pup. Today I called the vet that diagnosed the murmur. She said she would say the pup was great until she listens to the heart. No other symptons. She said with out the ultra sound done on the heart she really can't say how bad it is. She did say it is very different than developing a murmur at 5-6 like my otherone did. This pup is born with it, therefor birth defeat and she implied worse. I asked if the deck was stacked against me on a bright outlook, she said "if your a betting person yes". We thought about getting the test done, but then we would still have the same decision if the outlook is unpredictable because she is so young. The vet said the test could be done now but would need to be done again at 6-8 months. It's $400 each time. there goes the discount on the pup due to the murmur. I don't want this to be all about money, but it is something to think about. Spending so much & then to be told bad news or to be told it's day by day. I don't know if that is the way I want to bring in a new being into our home. My sister's friend has a westie that this happened to. The family feel in love with the pup & then found out about the heart murmur. The westie is not even a year old & sleeps all day, can't go up stairs or play with the kids. It's like watching it die slowly. We are so upset & disappointed. I have all her stuff out & even set up the play pen for her, she was to come home this week end. I feel guilt like I have abandoned her, and I feel as I am mourning her on top of still morning my little one. The breeder said she would keep her herself and I hope that's true that she won't be put to sleep. We keep changing our minds weather or not to take her. I still haven't called to give the breeder our answer, but I think we are leaning to a no.

Answer by gh
Submitted on 5/21/2004
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Bluiis--You must be heartbroken! I wonder if heart murmurs in animals are the same as those in people? Maybe this sounds silly--but my daughter (now 26) was diagnosed with a heart murmur when she was 4. Mitral valve prolapse was the diagnosis after tests in Chicago. They told me she would probably grow out of it--(the murmur). She has. They don't hear it anymore. But that is really not the point anyway--you already know the pup MAY be fine--and may not be. What a decision! Does the breeder have other pups available? I can understand how you would feel guilty, like you're abandoning her--but DON'T! It sounds like you have a great breeder and that the pup will be taken care of. Don't feel guilty! You love her already, obviously. As long as you know she's in a good home and will get care, don't beat yourself up. Easy for me to say, I know! How heartbreaking for you after what you have already been through! Maybe this pup is not meant to be for you, but there is one out there waiting for you to find it!! I really believe nothing happens without a reason and maybe this happened for a reason! Please let me know how it turns out! I wish you the best.

Answer by gh
Submitted on 5/22/2004
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Hi Bluiis---I had already posted when you wrote your last one--we crossed in the mail!! LOL!! I think your sister is right--this could happen to any puppy you buy--even a LONG time after purchase!! I won't even start on my opinion of genetic guarantee!! LOL I don't know what I'd do!! I know that I would feel just like you do--like I was abandoning her--but I don't think you are. Sounds like she'll be taken care of!! I will NEVER forget when I took my 15 year old yorkie to the vet for the last time and had to leave him--knowing his kidneys were failing. The vet gave me almost no hope--but I said--Do whatever needs to be done to try to save him!!! My guy was looking at me from the vets arms--like Where are you going??!! I will NEVER forget that!! It broke my heart because that was the last time I saw him alive!! But I don't say that to make you feel bad--just to say I understand!! But you are not abandoning her--if she were in a pet shop, I'd say that she had little chance for a good quality of life. But your breeder sounds so great!! Can you visit her? Does she have other puppies? Getting one from her sounds like a good idea-she sounds very honest. Your problem comes because you are attached to this liitle girl and love her already!! I wish I (or anybody) could tell you what to do...it would be heartbreaking to bring her home and lose her soon--but you will know when she's gone anyway, won't you? Are there children involved that will be hurt, too-and financlially, decide what you can handle. I know it shouldn't be about money--anybody reading my posts know my opinion on that!! I'd rather spend LESS for a puppy and have the finances later if I need them to care for the dog. All those are your personal business! I feel so bad for you!! Do they give any hope that the puppy will grow out of it? Sounds like your vet doesn't think so. Wow, my heart goes out to you. Please let me know what ya decide. You'll make the best decision. Once you make it, either way--know that you did your best and don't beat yourself up. It would be different if the breeder were just going to put her to sleep because there's no money to be made on her--but doesn't sound like that will happen. Best to you--this is a hard day for you!

Answer by christina
Submitted on 5/22/2004
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Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy.Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. vOh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. vvOh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy. Oh yea by the way again...I know a few posts ago I said that would be my last post, but I lied again. I know Jeff Dane is crazy, I saw the report. You may ask how I know its you Jeff Dane posing as someone else? Did I call and talk to "Jeff Dane" on the phone? NO. Do I have first hand knowledge of who any of these posters above really are? NO. And lastly, do I know one person who has ever met Jeff Dane, talked to Jeff Dane, bought a pup from Jeff Dane, been to Jeff Dane's kennel? NO. With that said, I think I'll get a job as a physic, Why not get paid for spewing lies? (I also like BIG WORDS when I write, it makes me feel important) Again, I know Jeff Dane is crazy.

Answer by bluiis
Submitted on 5/22/2004
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gh, ok, she home with us. After another sleepless night we decided this was really a rescue. I really don't know if I could trust that the breeder would not destroy her. I met that pup 3 weeks ago & gave her my word, so I kept that promise. I just don't know if I would of been able to live with myself if we didn't. I am not going to get the test done. She is playful, alert, eating, barking (very vocal) and everything else like a puppy should be. She is a beauty. Our thinking is if she stays the same then the test results would not matter & it would prove she could live with this murmur. On the other hand if she seems to be getting sick, then the vet will have many test he wants to run based on her symptoms, so we will deal with it if that time comes. Either way we felt we could give her a better life than the breeder. The breeder has other Yorkies to care for & will start real estate classes this June. She said she was no longer going to be a full time breeder & is having some of her retired dogs adopted. This played allot in our decision that she would not keep the pup. Say a pray for her that she will have a good long life. Thanks for sharing about your daughter, I'm happy to hear she is healthy & all that is long behind her. We are thinking of naming the pup Zsa Zsa. What do you think? She could use a strong woman's name that isn't afraid of a fight!

Answer by Li
Submitted on 5/22/2004
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