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Is there such a breed as a miniature pug?

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Answer by Anonymous AKC Pug Breeder
Submitted on 5/30/2004
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No - there is no such thing as an AKC miniature pug or teacup pug. A healthy, AKC pug should range in weight anywhere from 14 to 22 pounds, depending on the size and sex. Our BREED STANDARD says that the ideal weight is between 14 an 18 pounds. Just because you friend owns one, or you have seen on, does not mean that it is in fact what its claimed to be. I can GUARANTEE that there is no such thing as a purebred, AKC, mini or teacup pug. It is the same thing with brindle pugs. No such thing as a pure brindle pug. Pugs do not carry a brindle gene. I have had a top winning AKC pug for several years and I was our local Pug Club's breeder of the year last year, so I believe I am qualified to tell you this. This is, in fact, as Celtic Archer said, is a scam put on by backyard breeders and puppy mills to con the unsuspecting public into paying. Very often there are no health guarantees and you are left with a very unhealthy dog. Just keep an eye out. I would NEVER suggest getting a puppy from someone who sells dogs online either. Go to a reputable breeder. You may pay more for the dog in the beginning, but you'll be saving in the end.

Answer by mdpug
Submitted on 6/25/2004
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wizard of claws does have beautiful sweet pugs, but please realize there is small print that states they do NOT guarantee size! my pug from there was to be 6-8pounds and at 10 months she is already 14 + pounds and still growing. she is bigger than the pug i bought locally for more than 1/3 less the cost at wizard of claws. they can only guess by parent weight and my salesman did NOT tell me that...he convinced me she would never be bigger than 10 pounds. Please note the puppy is beautiful and sweet and i would never trade her, but i was very disappointed and upset i spent so much on something that does not seem to truly exist (otherwise i would think i would have gotten some money back!)

Answer by pug lover
Submitted on 8/16/2004
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people on here say there is no such thing as a brendle colored pug thats a bunch of crap!! i have 2 brendle pugs male & female and they are AKC registered please dont buy your puppys from puppy mills or from pet shops that wont show you who are the breeders (thats because they purchased that dog from a puppy mill or a truck that is filled with cages with various types of dog breeds) and most likely these puppys are sick due to the conditions they have been kept in. any good breeders will give you phone #`s of people that have purchased pups from them to verify the quality and help and temperment of the past pups they have sold.....please do your research this dog will become part of your family and live a long time and will be happy and healthy and bring much happiness to you and your familywhen purchased from a good,clean,loving,breeder.

Answer by rarebreeders
Submitted on 2/11/2005
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Hello, as for the existence of mini pugs... They do exist but are a result of careful discriminatory breeding, that expands several generations, even up to 30 years. The idea is to breed the smallest and healthiest of a pug litter, with the same from a another. Over sometime you breed in certain characteristics to yield a specific result in a bloodline. Hence smaller pugs, that have the best of all characteristics found. I know I along with my affiliates have been doing this for quite sometime, but a mini pug is average just under 8-10lbs for girls and up to 10-12 lbs for males, as opposed to 14-22lbs. If you would like pictures of our litters and their parents respond w/ a request and I will prove it. P.s they are all AKC.

Answer by Stop Wizard of Claws
Submitted on 3/28/2005
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If you are looking to buy a puppy, DO NOT BUY from Wizard of Claws. While they state that they are "breeders" or "consultants", they are in fact a pet store. They are not a kennel as they also sometimes claim to be. They are located in a strip mall in Pembroke Pines, Florida. Most of their puppies come from puppy mills, even though they say they are against them. While they do not themselves buy from puppy mills, they do buy from brokers who buy their puppies from puppy mills. James (aka Jim) and Gilda Anderson, the owners of Wizard of Claws, are known to buy at least some of their puppies from The Hunte Corporation, the largest puppy broker in the United States. In 2002, the USDA charged James Anderson and Wizard of Cl'ozwith violations of the Animal Welfare Act in numerous areas including recordkeeping and veterinary care. In 2003, they were found guilty of the charges by reason of default. http://www.usda.gov/da/oaljdecisions/vol62/Vol62_at_185.htm . This is the third time James Anderson was charged with violating the Animal Welfare Act under three different business names. They have since changed the name of their business once again to Wizard of Claws. James Anderson (DC# L34318) is also a convicted felon and was released from prison in 2001. http://www.dc.state.fl.us/appcommon/searchall.asp?Action=Find Therefore, Wizard of Claws is legally owned by his wife, Gilda Perez Anderson. If you are looking to buy a puppy, DO NOT BUY from Wizard of Claws. While they state that they are "breeders" or "consultants", they are in fact a pet store. They are not a kennel as they also sometimes claim to be. They are located in a strip mall in Pembroke Pines, Florida. Most of their puppies come from puppy mills, even though they say they are against them. While they do not themselves buy from puppy mills, they do buy from brokers who buy their puppies from puppy mills. James (aka Jim) and Gilda Anderson, the owners of Wizard of Claws, are known to buy at least some of their puppies from The Hunte Corporation, the largest puppy broker in the United States. In 2002, the USDA charged James Anderson and Wizard of Cl'ozwith violations of the Animal Welfare Act in numerous areas including recordkeeping and veterinary care. In 2003, they were found guilty of the charges by reason of default. http://www.usda.gov/da/oaljdecisions/vol62/Vol62_at_185.htm . This is the third time James Anderson was charged with violating the Animal Welfare Act under three different business names. They have since changed the name of their business once again to Wizard of Claws. James Anderson (DC# L34318) is also a convicted felon and was released from prison in 2001. http://www.dc.state.fl.us/appcommon/searchall.asp?Action=Find Therefore, Wizard of Claws is legally owned by his wife, Gilda Perez Anderson.

Answer by shirleysher
Submitted on 7/23/2005
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From what I know, and I'm a new pug breeder, there is no such thing as a miniature pug. We had our first litter of 7 AKC black pug puppies on June 18, 2005. We had 4 girls and 3 boys. We have a very special little boy. At 5 weeks he weighs 1.2lbs. He is going to be an exceptionally small dog weighing between 6-8lbs. He has an open fontanel, and we are keeping a very close eye on it. He is not malnourished, and actually we have been supplementing his food between feedings. He is now eating puppy food. He is just as rambunctious as the rest of the crew. My problem is, he's for sale, but I'm the overprotective mama, and the thought of him leaving my house scares the heck out of me. All my puppies have been given a good bill of health. If you would like to discuss the "miniature puppy", contact me at shirleysher@gulftel.com

Answer by Pug person
Submitted on 11/15/2005
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Ohhh my god you are all $%3$%$# Wizard of Claws is a puppy mill who is under federal charges of animal abuse.... they aren't mini... they are injected with worms and the moms are staved of food to make the puppies seem smaller, read the fine print... they do not guarantee the size of the pup... that is because as soon as you deworm and start giving it food it grows up to be a normal size pug... pug female are normally 2-4 lbs at 8 weeks...that is NOT MINI proper size of a pug is already small 14-18lbs. When you mini a dog, you invite hundreds of health issues including liver shunts... Because you want it smaller, bad breeders are abusing and torturing these animals to bring you and themselves a fast sale... do your homework... and in the long run save yourselve thousands in vet bills Disgusted by stupid people

Answer by pugalicious
Submitted on 1/10/2006
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Yes, they exist....and yes, they can be AKC registered, and NO there are examples of some substantially smaller versions...It's all in the genes people...Not always are the breeder's "greedy" or "backyard" breeders. I think it is just some pug breeders have very large pugs, and have a vicious temperament. I have AKC registered pugs; Ming, MoMo, Meeko, and MiNi Ming. Ming had her first litter when she was 4, and in that litter all 6 babies were equal in size, without any noticable difference UNTIL around the 4 week. Then a couple of the babies slowed down in growth, but not in girth. Ming has had 3 litters, and out of the 3; 4 babies were produced that way; and now weigh between 5 -10lbs. I currently have a boy that will be ready January 20th. artmistyj1@alltel.net

Answer by etherbuni
Submitted on 1/27/2006
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"http://www.wizardofclaws.com/pu7.jpg This is a link that has a picture and a description of a Minni pug. Meaning that they DO exists!" Isn't it obvious from the website that his is some sort of freakish puppy mill? Reputable breeders do not breed a gillion different breeds! It seems like there is "miniature" everything these days (heck, even miniature llamas--why would you want a miniature llama? (and before anyone responds, I'm a llama breeder, so don't say they are alpacas) Anything can be bred down to a miniature, but it is difficult, and full of potential genetic problems. My brother rescued a mini pug, and has already had to spend quite a bit at the vet ophthalmologist. She's cute as a button, but pugs are supposed to be one of the bigger toy breeds. How about considering something like a Japanese Chin if you want something smaller?

Answer by Juergen
Submitted on 7/4/2006
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There is no register such as AKC, CKC, or the international FCI that recognized a miniature pug yet. Nevertheless, there may be minis which are usually very poorly bred or mixed. The current standard for pugs is 13 to 18 lbs (was up to 23lbs before the standard was last revised in the 1980s) I have a mini myself; he was born with a cleft palate and barely survived. He is healthy now, but was not meant to live and turned out to be mini because of his condition. My advice as a breeder of many years: stay away from the minis. They are generally not sound and no reputable breeder breeds a mini. They are either accidents, mixed breeds, unhealthy puppies, or bred by backyard breeders who found a niche.

Answer by Jenny E
Submitted on 7/6/2006
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I just bought a mini pug where we have gotten all our animals. This is a reputable pet store and breeder in our Seattle WA area. They had a sister and brother she was short hair and he was long hair. we named our boy Scout. He is almost three months and weighs 2 and 1/4 lb's Our vet said he is the picture of health and we love him to death. I have severe health problems so a "mini" was the way to go. He is puppy pad trained for when I'm too ill to take him out but loves going for long walks also. At full grown he will be just over or just under 10 lb's If anyone wants to see pics just e-mail me at enddrama007@comcast.net His sister may still be available I'm not sure. But I could call if anyone is interested. I hope to breed him when he is older.

Answer by pugs n kisses
Submitted on 9/13/2006
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thank you for posting the info on "wizard of claws". i ,too, have heard that they are not ethical breeders.( although they were advertising on puppyfind.com) i disagree,however, with the statement to "never buy a puppy online". there ARE reputable,caring,loving,ethical breeders who list on puppy find. i am one. all of my pugs live IN my home,not a kennel. my females are bred once per year and i screen for the best of homes.i generally will have only 3-4 litters maximum per year,have a waiting list and MANY references. i DO care for my pugs as if they are family and breed them for conformation,the love of the pug breed and to bless others ,spreading the joy of pug ownership.also,for every pug puppy i place,thats one less puppy sale supporting a puppy mill. you DO have to do your research,though,if looking online. ask for references,preferably from those who have been to the breeders home. most reputable breeders will have a waiting list,also. and beware...there are many puppy mills,especially in the state of missouri(southwestern missouri,primarily) i do NOT believe that "miniature" pugs exist. hoping that one day they do,though,but only if the pugs arent affected genetically by doing so. that is a major concern!!

Answer by pugs n kisses
Submitted on 9/13/2006
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thank you for posting the info on "wizard of claws". i ,too, have heard that they are not ethical breeders.(check out http://www.stopwizardofclaws.com/ ) i disagree,however, with the statement to "never buy a puppy online". there ARE reputable,caring,loving,ethical breeders who list on puppy find. i am one. all of my pugs live IN my home,not a kennel. my females are bred once per year and i screen for the best of homes.i generally will have only 3-4 litters maximum per year,have a waiting list and MANY references. i DO care for my pugs as if they are family and breed them for conformation,(according to akc standards)the love of the pug breed and to bless others ,spreading the joy of pug ownership. you DO have to do your research,though,if looking online. ask for references,preferably from those who have been to the breeders home. most reputable breeders will have a waiting list,also. and beware...there are many puppy mills,especially in the state of missouri(southwestern missouri,primarily) do not buy from pet stores,they are often supplied by puppy mills. as long as others are purchasing from mills,kennels,pet stores,they keep them in business! i do not believe that "miniature" pugs exist. hoping that one day they do,though,but only if the pugs arent affected genetically by doing so. that is a major concern!! RESEARCH,RESEARCH, RESEARCH !!!

Answer by Pugowner
Submitted on 7/16/2007
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I have a female pug which was a "dud" from a breeder of questionable practice. We tended to take the duds as otherwise they would be put down I suspect. Our female weighs about 14 lbs and our male is 19. At 14 lbs many people think she's a puppy although shes 2 years old. People who don't own pugs perception of pugs is tainted by Paris Hilton and other dog lugging celebs. Pugs need attention - not kind of - they need you. They are also subject to temperature problems which you must pay attention to. If cold they sleep under the covers. If hot, they can barely cool down. Not real good for busy people. Please don't take getting a pet lightly - and take one thats in need first. I love pugs look at many and choose one. Then promote the good places.

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Question by PUGLUVVER
Submitted on 9/4/2003
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Is there such a breed as a miniature pug?

Answer by Kirby
Submitted on 11/4/2003
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Actually, I have heard of such a miniature pug as an actually breed of dog, but I'm not 100% sure it exists. Who in the world would have such limited space in their home that a normal pug would just be too big?

Answer by Emma
Submitted on 11/28/2003
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Yes, there is such thing as a miniature pugs. My friend has one so I know it as a fact that there is such a thing. She purchased hers down in Shipshewana, Indiana.

Answer by CelticArcher
Submitted on 12/26/2003
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Nope, no such thing. Just another scam promoted by backyard breeders and puppy mills in order to make a quick buck from the unsuspecting public.

Answer by JaydeIce9
Submitted on 1/6/2004
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My parents have seen a miniature pug at the local Wal-Mart. A woman brought it into the store with her. They fell in love with it.

Answer by pugamus
Submitted on 1/17/2004
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isn't it just a pug puppy than a real miniature pug?

Answer by lapm
Submitted on 1/17/2004
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Yes. There is such a breed, but it is not an AKC registered breed, I understand. It is not a puppy, it is a full grown pug that weighs around 3 pounds! A friend of a friend of mine has/had one in Michigan. I have lost touch now with that friend and would like to find that breeder she went to (maybe they are in Indiana/the one listed above???) Can someone give me a contact number for a breeder as I would love to get one. Please e-mail me at lapm@bellsouth.net. Thanks.

Answer by Jason
Submitted on 1/22/2004
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I would like to purchase a minature pug if they exist, if anyone has any info. jason_98072@yahoo.com

Answer by Karl
Submitted on 1/27/2004
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Yes there is such a thing,though it is not a pure bred pug,but quite charming none the less.Also depending on the parents selected usualy very ,very athletic and sound. It is produced by mating a tea-cup chihuahua with a sleeve pekingese.It is not generaly available and usualy is on request from top Peke and Chihuahua breeders.Good quality parents being essential.Usualy colours are black or fawn and mostly short coated,though the odd long coat appears.

Answer by Beth Anne
Submitted on 1/28/2004
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yes there is such thing as a miniature pug Ive researched them religiously and mine is doing fine!! thanks!!!

Answer by paintedmrose
Submitted on 1/31/2004
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If anyone knows of a miniature pug breeder please email me at paintedmrose@yahoo.com

Answer by Yella
Submitted on 2/1/2004
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Beth Anne, can u please contact me if you know where to get a miniature pug. Thank you!

Answer by Tammy
Submitted on 2/8/2004
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I am also looking to find a breeder of mini pugs. If anyone knows of one, please let me know. Tam8560@aol.com

Answer by maggies mom
Submitted on 2/10/2004
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Please e-mail me at landsx6@aol.com if you know of how to contact a breeder in the mid-west.

Answer by tracy
Submitted on 2/11/2004
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I am also looking for a breeder of a minture pug,if any one knows of in new jersey please cotact me at tberenger@yaho.com.

Answer by PUGALUG
Submitted on 2/16/2004
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I AM LOOKING FOR A MINI PUG TO SHARE A HOME WITH MY PRECIOUS PUG! IF ANYONE HAS INFO ABOUT THE BREED OR BREEEDERS PLEAE CONTACT! THANK YOU... PUG LOVERS

Answer by sal26@optonline.net
Submitted on 2/15/2004
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Would like to find a breeder that has miniature pugs.

Answer by Loloi2
Submitted on 2/17/2004
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I would also like to find out a website or address for a miniature pug. If anyone knows, could you please email me at Loloi2@aol.com. Thanks

Answer by ohm
Submitted on 2/18/2004
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hello ya'lli'mfrom san francisco and i just moved to san diego. i'vebeen with my girlfriend for well over a year and since i met her she's been obsessed with mini pugs. her birthday is in the middle of the year and i would really love to surprise her with something that i know she'd love and take very good care of. if anyone knows where i can get a mini pug in california, if you could please email me @ meisohm@hotmail.com

Answer by jen
Submitted on 2/18/2004
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You can find it www.wizardofclaws.com

Answer by Kelly
Submitted on 2/18/2004
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I have desperately been looking for a miniature pug, a breeder, or how to locate one. If you have any information please contact me at Kelly_goetzman@hotmail.com Thanks!

Answer by chi
Submitted on 2/18/2004
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i would like to have a miniature pug too.any info for breeder please e mail me. chi_guillot@hotmail.com thank you.

Answer by LinLin
Submitted on 2/22/2004
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I have a Pug that's 7 and a half months old now and was told she is a "miniature" pug. She was super tiny when we got her, at 3 months she was around 4 pounds??? and now she is 9 and a half pounds. I have seen a 3 month old pug recently at a pet store and it was a little smaller than my dog is now. She's AKC. Not sure if she is a true miniature but I believe she is smaller than average. Anyone else have weight ranges for a 8 month old female pug?

Answer by Adriana
Submitted on 2/25/2004
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i am also looking for a miniature pug, if any one has any info on them, please email me. at italianmami0805@yahoo.com

Answer by PugObsession
Submitted on 3/4/2004
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I'm also looking for a miniature pug. If anyone has any information where I can find one please e-mail me at alexandradevonne@yahoo.com. Thanks!

Answer by tanya
Submitted on 3/7/2004
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i live in tennessee.i have a mini pug so yes there really r miniature pugs.at first we thought she would be normal size,but she had her 6 month vet check just the other day, and she wighs exactly 7 pounds, and we were told that she is now as big as she is gonna get. they are very very hard to find. i would just like to say for all of you looking for one that if you do find a mini pug you are very luck.you could not ask for a better pet. we love our francis very much..

Answer by gigi
Submitted on 3/9/2004
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I really really really want a miniature pug!! if anyone has any info on a breeder i would LOVE to talk to them e-mail me at: babifacex0x@aol.com!

Answer by Michelle
Submitted on 3/11/2004
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We too would love to know of a mini-pug breeder in the Midwest. Please email us at m3claravall@yahoo.com Thanks!

Answer by Nini
Submitted on 3/13/2004
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Hello, I have been researching miniature Pugs for 4 years. It would be greatly appreciated, so so much, if you could email me about where to find the mini pug. The 3 pound one is what I have been searching for. So PLEASE!!! PLEASE !!! Write me. Thank You NAVARAbj@yahoo.com

Answer by Loloi2
Submitted on 3/16/2004
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Hi, I have found a website that works with breeders of miniature dogs, and they do have mini pugs. They seem like a very good company and legitimate. Good Luck everyone. If anyone gets one from them, could you please email me and let me know how things turned out? Thanks Loloi2@aol.com. Their website is www.wizardofclaws.com

Answer by stacey
Submitted on 3/22/2004
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i am going to pick up my miniature pug on the 24th! they do exist!wizardofclaws.com they are incredible!

Answer by manda
Submitted on 3/29/2004
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We got a miniature pug at our school auction- she weighs five pounds- at three months , but will only get up to 8 or 9.

Answer by themexican
Submitted on 4/2/2004
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I saw a pug and it was the size of a baby kitten. it was the coolest thing that i have ever seen. to here more about wat i saw, type me at rzaqueor@yahoo.com if u havent seen one u need to now. i like snowboarding! we can talk about boarding and pugs. sweet huh. lol. type u all later.

Answer by LiLtnt0865
Submitted on 4/22/2004
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YES!!! I bought one for my daughter's 21st birthday about a month ago. He is also AKC registered! I got him from a breeder out of Georgia and I reside in Florida.

Answer by Farmerpig
Submitted on 4/25/2004
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This is the web site for a Lo-Sze Pug . They are mini pugs and they are great. We have two. No others are as small.They are true clowns...http://members.tripod.com/~colt-ashlynn/home.htm

Answer by DHubbs724
Submitted on 4/26/2004
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LiLtnt0865, can you please contact me with the contact information for the Georgia Breeder you bought your pug from, please? dariushubbard@hotmail.com