Ear Cropping, in your opinion which is the best ear crop for...

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Answer by ribdot
Submitted on 7/9/2004
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well, some people say it makes the heads look better for shows, but i don't think the akc allows it.some do it because if the dogs in a fight, the other dog often grabs a hold of them and rips them to pieces, OUCH!!! others because many pitbulls now days are hogdogs(southern states), and a few beardogs even(minnesota,i think).some do for protection trained dogs because looks are 90% of the protection, and to keep someone from grabing the ears.if you are ever being attacked you can get a good painful grip on the ear to TRY and hold the head still so you can shove a thumb through an eye socket, never had to myself,but it sounds like a sound idea if the dog isn't over powering you to bad.as for your other question, dogos are a GREAT hunting dog. As far as i know people only hunt cats for sport, but maybe some people have other reasons too.

Answer by macker
Submitted on 7/9/2004
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well iggy, you dont eat the cats but some are a problem. People arent suppose to hunt the big cats anymore but a dogo is bred today just like it was many years ago. Before puma, boar , and jag were pests so people came up with a super hunter to catch and dispose of these. Like i said people dont really "willingly" hunt the big cats but if a dogo sees one in the wild then they consider it prey. in some places it's for sport just like in the states hunting deer is a sport with points so is hunting deer puma and 500 pound plus wild boar. cropping helps keep the dog's ears from being ripped, cut, clawed at stabbed. Remember that dogos actually fight with the big game they dont just point and bark.

Answer by AAH
Submitted on 9/12/2004
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This is to EVERYONE AGAINST ear cropping for dogs: Ear cropping is not just for cosmetic reasons. I have a well breed, well trained Doberman that has his ears cropped. He is my pet, as well as my protection. His ears are cropped for HIS protection! Being that he is a working dog, his body is his only tool. Therefore, if he had long, floppy ears, they would be a hindrance towards his performance and/or would be a target to anyone that chooses to harm me or my cats (i.e. a person or dog, which would aim towards his ears). I have tried to keep my frustration to a minimum, during my explanation... but it just infuriates me when I visit a search engine and see NOTHING BUT complaints about ear cropping and how CRUEL it is. So for all you "it's so cruel, individuals" ...I CAN ASSURE YOU, an owner that crops their dog's ears, is an owner which loves, cares, and nurses their dogs in MORE ways than you probably care for yourself!!! The owners of these �cruelly ear cropped animals� care for and love their animals to the furthest extent. I spend more time loving, feeding, bathing, cleaning, doctoring, brushing, kissing, petting, playing, walking, buying, organizing, and LIVING for my pets more than anything in this WORLD, as do other ear cropped animal owners!! I can guarantee you my Doberman (and MOST owners� with ear cropped dogs) have/had MINIMAL pain with his/her cropped ears, due to the care they received from their owner. In light, how different is ear cropping compared of that to circumcision? Or better yet, having a baby�s belly button tapered? Aren't these all cosmetic procedures which are performed during the infant stages, like that of ear cropping for a dog? EAR CROPPED DOGS ARE LOVED & CARED FOR (DURING AND AFTER THE PROCEDURE!!) BEYOND YOUR IMAGINATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Answer by md
Submitted on 12/28/2004
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I have two new Boxer puppies that I don't plan to show. I didn't care if they were cropped or not, but my husband did! He won out and we did it. I have to say I TOTALY understand the piont of veiw that "it is cruel". That's what I thought. My husband pionted out that my parents had cropped Danes, show dogs however with great blood lines. I didn't want to show but he insisted that he liked they way it looked better and he really wanted it. But I got my boys home and they were already playing and eating. The next day they were up to thier usual crazy selfs! I have to admit altho I worried like crazy the whole time they were away from me, They seem more upset that they have rediculouse cones on thier heads than anything else. They are happy and training and good boys..(when not eating the Christmas tree!) Don't be so hard on people. It's a personal choice for you to make with your family. I am not sorry we did it because I think they will look the way My husband hopped and I think a BIG boy boxer should have the "look of reagal importants". Like I said personal choice...

Answer by Deasha
Submitted on 7/18/2005
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Hey.. i have a female rednosed pitbull thats 2 months old.. shes a doll... anywhoo i was wundering about cropping as well.. after thinking about it a while i thought.. would i like to have my ears chopped off just for looks.. no! so i decided to leave my little deashas ears in wun piece with no pain! i think she'd thank me for this decision. the only reason i actually thought about it was there are no pits around here with cropped ears and i wanted my baybee to stand out with no pain... so i bought her a really nice flashy collar! :) my advice is don't put ur dog through the pain just for your benefit! think about ur pets if u luv em that much ull think about what ur doing first.. I'm for for or against cropping or pet modification of any kind.. but id never put my baybee through the pain she luvs me how i am so ill do the same!

Answer by J-Mo2005
Submitted on 10/22/2005
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Iggy, you seem to think you know everything, maybe you should stop being so stubborn and look into the issue of ear cropping before you speak... many people are for it, and many people are against it, some people don't really know how they feel about it, but the point is that everyone has their own opinion. So there is no need to attack someone else with a different opinion than yours. They are going to feel the same way in the end, your point is not being set because of your ignorance about the issue. By saying things like,"your family should be proud that you support animal cruelty" makes your statement ignorant, and does not make others want to listen to what point you are trying to get across. So do some unbias research and stop being so ignorant.

Answer by BullyLover
Submitted on 11/14/2005
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There is nothing wrong with ear cropping in my opinion. I do think that it is better when you get it done on a pup at a younger age. It does serve a purpose and dogs have a higher pain threshold than humans. How many people can squeeze out 10-14 children without making a noise? Everyone who is against ear cropping better be against human cosmetic surgery also. You can say that dogs don't have a choice in deciding, but they don't have a choice in a lot of things. They didn't ask to be taken away from their mother. They didn't asked to be spanked, yelled at, or whatever people do to house pets. They also did not asked to be tied up or caged. Ever think about that? I guess none of you ANTI-Croppers have ever gotten anything pierced or tattooed? And I guess you would NEVER get braces put on your child? They hurt...for years...but they sure do make you LOOK better...IGGY I sure hope you are a vegetarian/vegan because think of the pain animals go through just for you to eat...NOT NICE HUH?

Answer by What!?!
Submitted on 6/28/2006
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Iggy Shut up! Do you even have a dog? A rat dog (small dog) doesn't count. Anybody that has a big dog knows that they love a challenge. Male dogs love it more than females. Cropping the ears is protection for the dog. I have a Boxer i didn't crop the ear cause there was no reason too. But dogs like macker you would want to. I've seen dogs ears ripped off, because they didn't crop their hunting or working dogs(some dogs).My brother is a police man and has a Doberman Pinscher.Well one day a thief pulled the dogs ears during a fight and if he didn't crop the ears, the thief would have ripped them off. SO what you need to do is stop judging everybody and learn more about dogs and hunt because you sound stupid.

Answer by Proud Pit Owner
Submitted on 2/19/2007
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I don't see a problem with a dog being used for what it is bred for. Many Pit owners crop their ears. A good example is the one used above to keep dogs from ripping it off. If Iggy(moron) feels that using a gun is ok, but having a dogo hunt is bad. Then he really has issues. Any moron can shoot a gun, even if they miss they can shoot untill they hit. As a pitbull owner it gets me mad that some states are banning the breed when pitbulls are just stronger, faster, more muscular and better looking than other dogs. Guns and cigarettes kill more than they do. Just because a pitbull is a better fighter than any other dog doesn't mean it's going to fight. It all depends on how it's raised. My pit sleeps with my chihuahua. He loves his brother to death. My chihuahua is the dominant one because i got him way before i got my pit. If any other dog wants to harm my chihuahua my pit will back him up. You can't get mad at that. Humans are the same. Wether we call the cops, break up the fight, or get in. Its a natural instinct. Let the breed do what it has to do. Unless it is used for illegal fighting, Whats the problem. Life is a cycle.

Answer by BB
Submitted on 4/4/2007
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Ear cropping is not in-humane. Dogs ears were cropped way back when they were used to hunt and taking down large game. Now a days, it is for show dogs or family companions. Everyone has their opinion, no one should force it on someone else. Everyone should have a right to crop/dock their animals tails/ears. I have a Boxer, and no, I did not decide to crop his ears, but I do love the look. Actually, spaying/neutering is more painful for the dog then cropping. I know a lot of people who crop their Boxers ears for show or just because they like the look.. and they are NOT being cruel to their animals, and their Boxers are not in any pain. Yes maybe they might be uncomfortable or it can get itchy, but in no way it really hurts the dog. If it did, it obviously would not be allowed. I am happy that AKC is allowing uncropped dogs in the show ring, but still, I love seeing the show crop on Boxers. It gives them a great look.

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Question by Mike
Submitted on 6/26/2004
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Ear Cropping, in your opinion which is the best ear crop for a pit and a dogo?? please include links to pictures so I could get a general idea of a correct crop... Thanks

Answer by Iggy
Submitted on 7/3/2004
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Don't crop your dog's ears. It's cruel and unnecessary.

Answer by Iggy
Submitted on 7/4/2004
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What did you hunt? Hounds all have floppy ears. Terriers don't have long ears, but they aren't cropped.

Answer by Iggy
Submitted on 7/6/2004
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I'm sorry you support cruelty to animals, ribdot. Your family must be so proud.

Answer by Iggy
Submitted on 7/8/2004
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Why would you crop a pit's ears? No one uses them as terriers anymore. There's no need to crop their ears. I've never heard of the other breed mentioned, but what's the point in hunting big cats? Do you eat them?

Answer by macker
Submitted on 7/1/2004
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for a male argentine dogo it is a very drastic ear cropping. A male dogo is left with practically nothing . go on the msn search engine and type dogos or more specifically type la vieja diana or el tumi, they have some great pics of what dogos should really look like.

Answer by macker
Submitted on 7/10/2004
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well then youre dealing with the hunting issue not the ear cropping one. its a sport just like some breeds like the agility runs and greyhound enjoy chasing a hare dogos, presas even saloukis enjoy hunting. hunting to dogos is a joy they like it so it becomes a sport. if youre against hunting fine, im against hunting with a weapon like a gun, theres no sport in that, any moron can shoot a duck.

Answer by macker
Submitted on 7/11/2004
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people do eat the boar they hunt! i like it because my dog is doing what it was bred for. a lure isnt the same, not for this breed its a very smart breed but its hunting instincs are very strong. this is what they do and ear cropping helps the dog, i have a boxer in new york and i didnt crop his ears cause i didnt see the point but my dogo hunts. thats what it was bred for so thats what it should do.

Answer by macker
Submitted on 7/16/2004
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time to lick the ding aling

Answer by neal
Submitted on 7/16/2004
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butch likes it when i tickle his asshole!!! just in case anyone cares!!!! heheheheheheh!!!!

Answer by kahn
Submitted on 7/16/2004
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Sassy likes it when I tickle her ding aling

Answer by firedragons
Submitted on 7/17/2004
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I rub peanut butter all over my tosas ass and like it off myself.

Answer by CRAZY
Submitted on 7/20/2004
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for everyones info- Cropping of the ears in my opinion is very HUMANE. I breed and raise the American Pit Bull. We do not fight them, but having multiple males in the same area, even in pins, they often get loose, fight, and tear one anothers ears off. I believe I'd rather crop his ears than have them torn. We only crop the males ears for this reason. thanx pitbullgrl19@aol.com

Answer by Iggy
Submitted on 7/21/2004
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If your dogs are getting loose, you're obviously not taking very good care of them.

Answer by yousuck
Submitted on 8/2/2004
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Floppy ears create a dark, moist place, which is an ideal breeding ground for bacteria. a drop ear also limits airflow, and as was said before, a cropped ear aids in hunting and herding. by the way, ear cropping is illegal in most european countries. perhaps someday america will follow suit....unnecessary cosmetic surgery?

Answer by SHORTYMYPIT
Submitted on 10/18/2004
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LOOK MAN YOU HAVE A WEAK ANSWER FOR THE REASON THAT YOU CROP THE EARS. WHAT EVER THE REASON. I CROPPED MY PITS EARS BECAUSE I LIKE THE LOOK. IT JUST LOOKS CLEAN TO ME. I LIKE THE LONG EARS BUT THE CROPPED EARS JUST MAKES IT LOOK MORE MASCULINE. I DONT FIGHT AND NEVER WOULD. I DON'T USE HIM FOR HUNTING. HE IS A SPOILED, INSIDE DOG. VERY WELL BEHAVED. GETS ALONG WITH OTHER DOGS. AND NATURALLY IF THE OTHER DOG GETS AGGRESSIVE THE MINE WILL TOO. HE SENSES WHEN A DOG IS AGGRESSIVE AND HE WONT EVEN TRY TO PLAY. SO HE DOES GOOD.AND I LIKE THE CROPPED EARS AND IT IS NOT INHUMANE.

Answer by frogman
Submitted on 2/9/2005
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I take great care of my pits,they still occasionally rip my fencing from the screwed down to concrete wall fasteners.Then they have about 10 minutes till I can find em.Happened last night.A stray dog got whooped.crapped all over.And my guy comes back tired and happy.One less stray in Oaxaca.

Answer by moondog
Submitted on 8/5/2004
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cropping is useful for catch and hold dogs used for ferral animal control otherwise its mutillation my rot likes his tail and it helps while swimming

Answer by topdog
Submitted on 8/10/2004
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iggy is a tramp.

Answer by zorch
Submitted on 8/10/2004
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cropping is not inhumane. Just think, a veterinarian wouldn't do it if it was and it wouldn't be allowed. The person who posted in the first place was asking for information, not your opinion on ear cropping.

Answer by samanthalove
Submitted on 8/22/2004
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I would just like to say that i have two neopolitian mastiffs (a female and a male) my female is 2 years and has her ears cropped, my male does not have his ears cropped but i would like to know if anyone has any pics of a neo with its ears cropped so mabey i can get some ideas.

Answer by P'Od
Submitted on 9/13/2004
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Oh my!Oh goodness,ear cropping is so inhumane!Oh you're all so cruel!....Tell me your kidding.Are you a little cry baby or something.The dogs are put under and asleep when it happens.They don't feel a thing.I bet your against human circumcision too.My new-born baby just had that done and he was wide awake with no drugs for pain.Now thats rough.Stop your cryin already about the inhumanity of ear cropping.I'm not buying it.

Answer by sickofdiiotswhodontknowpits
Submitted on 9/18/2004
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you guys are idiots....go to the peta website and complain to the tofu eating assholes who complain about cruelty to animals. really!!!!! oh and its nice to see that you lick your dogs assholes

Answer by madison
Submitted on 9/25/2004
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Anybody stupid enough to breed pit bulls or any dog for that matter really needs to think about how many dogs are dying in animal shelters everyday! get a real job and stop bringing more unwanted animals into this world. Have you ever walked into an animal shelter half of the dogs in there are American Staffordshire Terriers or "pit bulls". And 25% of animals in shelters are pure bred by the way i work at a vet hospital and at an animal shelter and i have seen a puppy getting its ears taped, it is extremely painful! the dogs scream everytime they have to get the tape ripped off and replaced.

Answer by Dog Lady
Submitted on 11/3/2004
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Iggy if you dont support cropping pits ears then dont do it. But its not cruel it is a cosmetic surgery, and you should mind your own business and let people crop if they like!

Answer by HOVA
Submitted on 11/29/2004
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BATTLE CUTS R THE BEST

Answer by BiORaVeN
Submitted on 12/10/2004
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As far as I can tell Iggy seems to be a PETA hugging commie, Iggy please do us a favor, and STHU your constant battering is a distraction more than anything else, your liberal thoughts are unwelcoming and unneeded and as far that goes I believe all liberals are traitors and should be shot!, now with that said Id like to know when is the right time to crop my puppy's ears, hes about six weeks and I just got him i=his first set of shots but am now looking to crop his ears. I have a older male who's ears are cropped and I noticed the ear tugging when they play and worry that it will become a problem.

Answer by ping-on
Submitted on 12/20/2004
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when my boxer got his ears cropped i did not see any sign of suffering, still playful and let me tell you boy the look much better with cropped ears.

Answer by pitbulldawger
Submitted on 1/18/2005
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and one more if you own more than one male pit bull and i do to think they will not get out is foolish maybe they never will but you can bet they will try and never stop trying its a pretty safe bet its gonna happen sooner of later but if you dont know the breed you really wouldnt understand

Answer by neil
Submitted on 2/22/2005
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i just got a 4 month old pitbull and my parents think its a bad idea but i love the way a cropping looks and iv'e heard that it can help save them from future ear problems so help me out please

Answer by FawnBoxer
Submitted on 3/23/2005
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Iggy, You rule! I agree with everything you said. Hunting sucks, and is for low-lifes. Also, ear cropping is mutilation.

Answer by jib
Submitted on 4/18/2005
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In karate, a hobby of mine, men are very vulnerable because they can be kicked in the balls and considerable damage can be done in this way. Therefore obviously all men should be castrated at birth, to avoid the vague possibility this may happen in the future. In the same way, it hurts women to be punched in the breasts. Therefore obviously, in case this happens in the future, all women should have a mastectomy at puberty. Go figure.

Answer by vet.advice
Submitted on 4/21/2005
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Cropping ears have been happening for hundreds of years, there was a purpose back then, and in many other case these purposes still exist. Now the standard for different breeds is based upon the purpose of the breed when it was first developed. So therefore if the was a reason for the ears to be cropped or the tails docked then it should still be done to follow the standards to allow the breed to be represented for its purpose.

Answer by bugman
Submitted on 5/10/2005
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iggy, i understand your concern for the safty and human treatment of animals, and commend your stand on the issue. But you are fighting the wrong group of dog owners. Most dog owners care for their animals like children. I own a healthy min pin, whom i chose to have the "cosmetic" procedure performed. So long as the procedure is not deemed illegal, and is performed by a certified vet...there is no reason to not allow ear cropping procedures. Look at the issue in the same light as circumsision...a rightful personal choice.

Answer by Disgusted
Submitted on 5/17/2005
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You lot are just too wierd, here in the uk we'd never dream of Cutting our dogs ears, Thats just sick and as for beastiality (getting it on with animals) only in America!

Answer by trench
Submitted on 5/28/2005
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dogs get loose, croping is the right thing for this breed of dog. they are a fighter and if another dog is in there way they will destroy it if, it doesnt comply, kinda like the borg. no really ive had a pit from birth and they are all about family values ,and protection......

Answer by Flops
Submitted on 6/14/2005
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Yo Crazy I think you are right I have a female APBT she is 4 months ... Her ears were nice when I got her but now one flops down Will she grow out of this or should I change her name to flops?