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Question by sandy
Submitted on 2/26/2004
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are american bulldogs the same as pitbulls?and how are they with small children?


Answer by CYRUS
Submitted on 3/13/2004
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NO AMERICAN BULLDOGS AND PIT BULLS ARENT THE SAME...I HAVE A 2 YEAR OLD AMERICAN BULLDOG....AND HE DEFINATLY IS A PART OF THE FAMILY....ONLY AGGRESIVE TOWARDS PEOPLE THAT HE DOESNT KNOW, AND OTHER DOGS THAT ARE AGGRESSIVE.....BY FAR HE IS THE SMARTEST DOG I HAVE EVER OWNED OR SEEN, A GREAT WATCHDOG, AND FRIEND....I WOULD NEVER OWN ANOTHER BREED OF COMPANION....

 

Answer by Sarah
Submitted on 3/17/2004
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Actually a pitbull is a body type of a dog more than a breed, included in this group of dogs is the American bulldog. The fact that your dog is a great companion and a wonderful family dog just means you have raised it right. the reason pitbulls get a bad rap is because of there owners abuse or miss use of this wonderful breed. Your pitbull is like many, smart, brave, strong, friendly... but the only pitbull you ever hear about are the "vicious" ones. so to correctly answer your question, an American bulldog is a type of pitbull.
:D
-Sarah

 

Answer by lennie tex
Submitted on 3/20/2004
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I think that they are very similar and some look a lot like one another. They are good with kids just like a pitt bull can be when the dog is treated the wright way.I perfer the American Pittbull but have owned both and got no complaints about either.Hope you enjoy either of the choices you make.                                        Lennie Tex.                        

 

Answer by EvilEdna42
Submitted on 3/21/2004
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Well, they both belong to the same "kind" of dog, the bull and terrier.  This includes American Pit Bull Terriers, American Bulldogs, AmStaffs, English Bull Terriers and Staffordshire Bull Terriers.  The American Bulldog is heavier than the Pitbull and also has more of a jowly bulldog look to it.

 

Answer by MOY
Submitted on 3/23/2004
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OF COURSE THEY ARENT THE SAME!!!!

 

Answer by mr m
Submitted on 3/24/2004
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The Bull Dog is by far a more trustworthy companion than the pit bull.

 

Answer by cagey1
Submitted on 3/25/2004
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If you cross dam(Am Staff x Am Bull)with
Sire (Am Pit x Am Bull) you will get pretty much a representation of all types of "bulldog" the genes are all there it is just which ones you selectively breed for.

 

Answer by the truth
Submitted on 3/29/2004
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you idiot. they are not the same. pit bulls were bred to fight. American bulldogs are working dogs bred from the mastiff and the alaunt. Pitt bulls are bred from teriors to make them smaller and more agressive. american bulldogs DO NOT HAVE TERIOR BLOOD. People should know what they are talking about before giving information to others. Any terior gog at some point was bred to kill things like rats on boats coming to america.

 

Answer by cagey1
Submitted on 3/30/2004
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Answer by the misconception,
   Learn to spell if you can't spell terrier how would you know if there were any terrier blood in there.

 

Answer by cagey1
Submitted on 3/30/2004
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dear "the truth",
   You could really up your credibility by:
1. Learning to spell T-E-R-R-I-E-R.
2. Learning not to resort to name calling like you are a second grader.

 

Answer by Ryan
Submitted on 3/30/2004
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APBT's were originally a  50 / 50 mix of american bull dog and stafford or amstaff - Terriers, and were originally bred to be used by butchers in texas - look up Bull Baiting, you'll understand why. I own a couple APBT on with more dominant Bull dog genes and the other with more terrier, both very very smart, loyal well behaved and great with children my 6 year old can take away fresh bones from either of them, that is how they are trained.. I would not have a poorly short tempered dog.

 

Answer by rpowell
Submitted on 4/5/2004
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The post by "The Truth" on 3/29/04 is the most accurate out of all the posts on the forum (so what if he misspelled a word). If you would like more info on the subject go get "The Working American Bulldog" by Dave Putnam. This book is loaded with history on the entire "Bully" breed.

 

Answer by who dat
Submitted on 4/7/2004
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Wow!
  No one seems to know everything but a few of seem to profess to know.  It seems more like you are defending your personal choice of "Bulldog" AST<AB<APT etc. rather than actually having any real info. I have read many websites that also have conflicting info. What it seems to boil down to is just plain snobbery. You all might as well own poodles.

 

Answer by WHITE TRASH KENNELS
Submitted on 4/7/2004
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The american pit bull terrier and the american bulldog are both bully breeds and do share common ancestry. However, they have developed enough characteristics of their own to be distinguished breeds. As far as vouching for how a breed acts around children, I'll have to pass.

 

Answer by pitbullownerof2
Submitted on 4/8/2004
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there all just dogs so shut the hell up ... raise your dog how you want your dog no sterotyping u idiots ...

 

Answer by jonnyuhu
Submitted on 4/9/2004
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people the fact is they are near enough the same breed they all originate (including the boston terrier)from the fighting dogs brought to america from the british isles somewhere not that long ago they were all the same breed doggs bred for baiting bulls and each other

 

Answer by Tachiwaza
Submitted on 4/13/2004
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Good question Sandy. I would have to say no. They do have different names, although they do look alike. I have a female AMBD who is often mistaken for a Pit. Raise your dog carefully and they can be great with children. Check out the ARF website (animalresearchfoundation.com)for some good info . "The Truth" hit the nail on the head but needs to grow up !!! Chill out ..

 

Answer by dwvstar
Submitted on 4/14/2004
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There are alot of conflicting reports on the origin of the AB and the APBT. I personally believe they are seperate breeds. Regardless I have A 15 month old AB who loves children and other dogs. The key is to find a good breeder that can supply you with a pedigree and a written history of your puppy.  For all others, arguing does not help either breed.

 

Answer by lucy'sownerambd
Submitted on 4/15/2004
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AMBD's are mastiff breeds, to where pits are terrier breeds. Obvious difference in character, but similar in looks. Personally, AMBD's are the way to go.

 

Answer by CH
Submitted on 4/17/2004
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"APBT's were originally a  50 / 50 mix of american bull dog and stafford or amstaff - Terriers, and were originally bred to be used by butchers in texas - "

WHAT A DUMBASS!  ORIGINALLY BRED TO BE USED BY BUTCHERS IN TEXAS? PLEASE CLIFF CLAVEN  CASTRATE YOURSELF PLEASE, BEFORE YOUR IGNORANCE SPREADS!

The American Pit Bull Terrier has been bred for hundreds of years and they certainly aren't a cross of American Bulldog and Staffordshire terriers.  The very thought of which makes me want to vomit.  They are a cross between the original bulldog (the one used for bull baiting) and the old "bull and terrier".(a cross between the original bull dog and a now extinct black and tan terrier)
They were then selectively bred for hundreds of years to be the best possible fighting dogs.  They came to America with Irish immigrants to Boston.  The staffordshire terrier and pit bull terrier USED TO BE THE SAME THING A COUPLE HUNDRED YEARS AGO but after generation after generation of breeding for different purposes (show vs. fighting) they are no longer the same breed. In my oppinion most of the valued apbt qualities have been bred out of the staffordshire.  The American bulldog is a great dog, definitely more useful than an amstaff, but not the same as a pit and not meant to do the same job.  

 

Answer by bully lover
Submitted on 4/20/2004
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Well you see pits are very loyal to owners and their family the other breeds i have no idea.  I own 2 pits they don't really get along tho.  You can normally trust most dogs and also yes pits are my favorite but still.  I is up to you what you get just train them to not be very aggressive (pits are easily trained)  that should help even more.

 

Answer by dwvstar
Submitted on 4/20/2004
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Check out this site http://www.c-gate.net/bulldog/html/bulldog__history.html, it gives a little history on both dogs.

 

Answer by tigercats12
Submitted on 4/22/2004
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ok i am over my initial disgust with this board and now it is a source of humor..  the majority of the people here are CLUELESS ABOUT DOGS ANIMALS ETC...  the american bulldog is NOT the same as a pit.. the american bulldogs are the direct decendants of the original english bulldog(not the one of today) also refered to as before that as an alaunt.. the bulldog was more centralized in the southern states.. the only reason you have todays american bulldog is because of allan scott and johnd johnson.. they developed their own strains, of american bulldog.. then you have the alapahabull dogs.. that are also direct decendants of the old english dogs.. they look similar to the ambull.. they were kepped by the lane family in GA..  pit bulls are NOT the same as ambulls alkthough their history crosses at some points..

also the amstaff and pit bull are technically the same dog, though for the most part, they were bred in different directions.. and it wasn't several hundred years ago.. the APBT breed is not even several hundred years old yet.. they were the exact same dog until the 1930's..then the show vs fighting controversy began...

 

Answer by jasper
Submitted on 4/23/2004
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No, but there is an over lap. Firstly you can get some smaller purer Scott bulldogs that look like large pit bulls. Rumour has it that some lines of Bulldog such as Scott have been in the past and possible are now been used in the pit. The reason that Pitbulls look like they do is that they are the best characteristics to win a pit match. If some lines of American Bulldog have been used to pit fight then it is only logical that they will look like Pit bulls. On the whole though since the majority of Bulldogs are used for hunting and protection work they have different characteristics to Pibulls. It does seem that ABD do have different ancestor to AMPBT, although this may be due to the dogs being used for different work. No one really knows where these dogs originate from. The theories are based on a few old and vague letters and paintings dating back from to the about the 1600.

 

Answer by cris
Submitted on 4/25/2004
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The American Bulldog and the American Pit Bull Terrier are in the same category,they are both bully type dogs but they are completely different breeds.  Pit bull is a slag term that refers to many different breeds and mixes which may include the ABD but if you are referring to true American Pit Bull Terrier no they are not the same. As far as how good they are with children I have owned both breeds and as long as they are raised properly with children they will BOTH do fine.

 

Answer by pooch man
Submitted on 4/28/2004
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I own a abd and i do see a resemblence in apperance between the pit and the female abd.Some of the males depending on the type of abd look more like the englishbull dog. My abd has a great temperment and is great with my kids.Though she is a new addition to my family,so far i  see  a  fiercly loyal dog that will be a good wathdog and companion.

 

Answer by beenibabe
Submitted on 4/28/2004
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Just wana put a point across to all u who r sayin that an aggressive dog is badly brought up.. well I own a pedigree staffordshire bt who wouldn't say boo to a goose, best temperament i've ever seen in a bull breed, and a stafford x ab, who can't go near a strange dog without tryin2 start a fight! I had both from age 6wks, and they are aged within 3months of each other. Both have been treated and trained exactly the same. I'm not saying u should treat a dog badly (i would never treat mine badly), but u must not assume that an aggressive dog has always been mistreated. Point made!!

 

Answer by gassyjuan
Submitted on 5/2/2004
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Look up the breeds in the UKC and AKC web site.  UKC has Pits and AKC has Amstaffs (or vice versa).  They are so close that the pros can't decide.  As for American Bull Dogs, visit 10 breeders web sites for all three breeds and tell me you see a significant difference!  People like to get passionate about their dogs (I have an AMSTAFF, not a PITBULL.  Or I have an American Bulldog not a what ever).   When one bites the neighbor's kid their lawyer will have no trouble convincing the jury it was a vicious killer, and call it a pit bull.  Then your pool will be in their back yard!

 

Answer by knowledge
Submitted on 5/2/2004
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Abs and apbt are both great dogs.  Can you have them around children is the question.  I say yes there is no such thing as a bad dog only bad owners.  If your dog is out of control it is because of you.  The most impressionable time for any dog is when they are from 6 to 16 weeks.  So in this time you will want to socialize the dog with what ever you will have it around the most.  And for everyone to know the exact history of the ab is not known.  Even John D Johnson and Alan Scott argue how they are suppose to look.  From my knowledge both breeds have had things bred into them.  To name one John D Johnson bred his ab to an english bulldog name west champs high hopes back in the 80's.  I have heard reports that Alan Scott has bred some catahola into the ab to make it a better herd dog.  The truth is the original english bulldog died with bull baiting.  Alpha blue blood is just another wanna be.  Also the apbt is a great dog they are a little more selfish.  They do thing more for self gratifications instead of to please their owner.  I could go on for ever.  If you love on bully bred how can you not love them all.

 

Answer by tigercats12
Submitted on 5/4/2004
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i agree with the other breeds being breds into the two main AMbull lines.. but you are quite wrong on one thing.. the alapaha has been around as long if not longer than both am bull lines.. my family has known the lane family since the 1920's and they had bred and called them alapahas even back then.. so good post accept that one mistake..

 

Answer by abman
Submitted on 5/10/2004
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A pitbull and an american bulldog are similar but different at the same time. Although they share some common bulldog blood they are also different dogs. Some ab'slook more like pitbulls than others. American bulldogs are usually bigger than pitbulls,more protective than pitbulls, and usually a little less athletic than pitbulls due to their increase in size. Both are good dogs so people shouldnt get caught up in what is better. Get the one that fits your personality best. They are both bulldogs but they went off in different directions.

 

Answer by PITBULLOWNER
Submitted on 5/12/2004
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YOU GUYS i HAVE A DEAF PITBULL AND SHE IS AS NICE AS YOU COULD EVER IMAGINE YOU GUYS ALL NEED TO STOP AND THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING ABOUT THEM THEY ARE ACTUALLY REALLY GREAT DOGS AND THEY HAVE A MIND OF THEIR OWN BUT THEY ARE REALLY AWESOME DOGS ONCE THAT YOU GET TO KNOW THEM.I do not agree with any of you. yes I was yelling at you.

 

Answer by Babygurl04
Submitted on 5/14/2004
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Also i would like to say that i used to hate pit bulls and i was so afraid of them until my boyfriend got one.. and let me tell u that dog lives to serve him and would do anything to make him happy. And she is the sweetest dog ive ever met. So all im saying is that u shouldnt judge something until u get to know a lot about it.

 

Answer by noe
Submitted on 5/18/2004
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pitbulls are one of the best dogs that you can have because they will always be there with you and they are very good whit kids and they enjoy having fun

 

Answer by American Bulldog Breeder
Submitted on 5/20/2004
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OK enough of everyone's guessing. The truth is that a American Bulldog and a Pit Bull are two different breeds. Also American Bulldogs do not have any terrier mixed in the blood. The only common nitch is that both have Bulldog in the blood. The entire. accurate history of American Bulldog's is below.

American Bulldogs are descended from ancient Mastiffs that originated in Asia and were brought to Europe by nomads. Mastiffs were bred to bring down, fight or hold large aggressive prey such as wild boar, bears or big cats. Animals that are as likely to fight as run away. Ancient Mastiff had incredible fighting ability and courage.

Phoenician traders brought a brown strain of Mastiff to England around 800 B.C. Celts bred these brindle or brownish red behemoths to catch cattle and wild boar. Today's English Mastiff and Bullmastiff have a similar color and to some degree are descended from this strain.

Around 400 A.D. a second very tough strain of Mastiff reached English shores. This dog was called the Alaunt. English butchers and farmers turned the Alaunt into the world's first true Bulldog. In medieval times, the working English Bulldog was the first dog to develop the so called 'lock jaw grip' which really has more to do with a dog's gameness than any structural difference in its jaw. A true Bulldog has the ability to chase, catch and hang onto the nose, cheek or throat of a large herbivore and not let go no matter how hard the beast struggles or how much punishment the dog is forced to absorb. Throughout medieval, Elizabethan and the early industrial periods, Bulldogs routinely caught horse, cattle and boars. Sometimes in routine farm or butchery work and sometimes in staged competitions. When catching domestic animals, the Bulldog was usually able to make the hoofed creature submit to the excruciating pain of the bite before being harmed himself. When it is ready to cry "uncle" a bull will lower its head to the ground and allow the Bulldog to drag him backwards to the butcher. The bovine can then be slaughtered or put into a holding pen.

An old time working Bulldog also had the ability to throw a bull to the ground by rapidly corkscrewing his body right when the big beast was off balance in the middle of a stride. It was possible for an experienced 80 pound Bulldog to topple an 1800 pound bull.

Though his main opponent was usually a bull, the English Bulldog was also used against bears, lions and other ferocious carnivores. These staged fights were called baits. The Bulldogs employed on bears and large meat eaters were heavier than the ones used solely on livestock. For the larger opponents speed was not as important and the fight would take place in an enclosed area so endurance was less of a factor. Whether large or small the working English Bulldog that survived this grueling gauntlet of animal combat became the greatest canine warrior ever. In 1835, all animal baiting contests were made illegal in England.

The only baiting that survived the ban was dog baiting or dog fighting. Coal miners in the Staffordshire region crossed English Bulldogs with scrappy terriers and continued the gladitorial tradition in clandestine matches that are still going on today. From these Bulldog terrier crosses we get the American Pit Bull Terrier, the Staffordshire Bull terriers and the Bull Terrier.

Because of the anti-baiting laws, purebred Bulldogs were very rare in England by the middle of the 19th century. They were being exported to America where they joined and improved the working Bulldogs already in the former colonies. They were also shipped to Germany where they helped create the Boxer. They were crossed with Mastiffs to create superior guard dogs. Interestingly, the early Bullmastiffs were often white or piebald, only latter with the addition of dark brindle mastiff blood did darker colors evolve. And finally the last of the working Bulldogs were crossed with pugs to create a blocky mild mannered little show dog.

Today, the dog the world calls the English Bulldog is really a Pug Bulldog cross, a fine animal in its own right but not a true working Bulldog. In fact, the working English Bulldog became extinct in his native land at the turn of the 19th century. Fortunately he survived in America, especially in the mountainous regions of the rural south. There he was saved from extinction because he still had work to do. Hogs and cattle were allowed to free range in this rugged terrain where fences were impossible and could only be caught with hardy English Bulldogs.

Throughout the south and the southwest, Bulldogs were also used as guard dogs. In the 19th century and earlier there are numerous historical records of large plantation Bulldogs or estate Bulldogs that were kept in yards sometimes on chains and used on human bad guys. Plantation bullies were occasionally allowed to roam in prison yards, patrolling open spaces between cells and main wall. Regional varieties developed and many names were applied to the southern Bulldogs. Some of the more common names were Old English White, White English, Swamp Bulldog, Backwoods Bulldog, English Pit, Old Country White and many others.

Toward the end of the 1960s, the last remnants of working English Bulldogs were disappearing from the rural south. Large agribusiness firms were consolidating land and eliminating small scale ranching. Also, small all terrain vehicles were allowing farmers to herd, catch and move cattle without dog assistance. It looked like the working English Bulldog was truly going to become extinct once and for all.

Fortunately at this time a few dedicated Bulldog enthusiasts made a concerted effort to locate some of the last of the hill Bulldogs and begin efforts to breed them, preserve them and foster a public awareness so their breeding programs could continue into perpetuity. Because of their work, the Bulldog, the breed that had toughed it out for so long against so many adversaries, could survive.

The principal architects of today's American Bulldog are Allen Scott and John D. Johnson. From the breeding programs of these two men, two distinct strains have emerged, commonly called the Johnson type and the Scott type. The former is a larger, wider dog with more bone, pendulous lips, an undershot jaw, facial wrinkles and a shorter muzzle. The Johnson type resembles an athletic, tightly built, white Bullmastiff. The Scott type looks like a large, coarse, leggy, white Pit Bull.

To say that today's American Bulldog is a direct descendant of the original working English Bulldog is not to say that a small percentage of other breeds have not been recently added, mostly in the 1970s when the AB was being rebuilt. The Mastiff/Bull breeds used in such outcrosses were descended in part from the working English Bulldog, Alaunt and other ancient molossers. Due to the low number of Old English Whites left, some breed out-crossing was inevitable to insure enough genetic diversity.

 

Answer by dankev04
Submitted on 5/20/2004
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listen the term (pit)bulldog originated from american(bull)dogs that was bred for baiting bulls,hunting rats ect.some folks thought that since these dogs had heart that they would match them against each other.they soley bred for dogs that were good at one thing fighting.others liked the strong nature they possesed,so they bred for size to bait bulls and ward off predators,which in turn gives us today,two seperate,yet similar breeds of dogs bred for two seperate things.also noted when bred selectivly (pit bulls)can and do perform duties just as well as american bulldogs.the only true difference is the (pit bulls)consistent breeding for hard game fighting dogs,as to where bull dogs are not bred for that true deep gameness,alone,as true pit bulls are.

 

Answer by dd
Submitted on 5/24/2004
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American bulldogs are larger and have a higher working drive were pitbulls are smaller and are natural fighters.There are alot of simalarities and alot of differences

 

Answer by PitLuvR
Submitted on 5/24/2004
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American Bulldogs and American Pit Bull Terriers are NOT related.
As The Truth was saying....ABD do not have Terrier in them and APBT'sdo not have Mastiff in them.
The American Pit Bull Terrier came from the Old English Bulldog and a Terrier Breed and was originally bred in England to Bull Bait.  The had Human Aggression Bred out of them by the original "Dog Men" culling any aggression shown toward humans out of them while at the same time had more Terrier bred into them for the animal aggression.  ABD'swere bred from Mastiffs as a working dog, not an animal aggressor...Both dogs are extremely well with Humans although the ABD is more of a "One Family" dog and are very protective of their family where an APBT would lick to death any human attacker.  Both are exceptional breeds and should only be possessed by one with knowledge of the breed.  Go to http://www.moloss.com/ for all the knowledge you need to know about the Mastiff and Bully breeds.  I am not an expert on American Bulldogs and only had the pleasure of having one in our Rescue Organization however we Specialize (I use to only rescue APBT's in APBT'sand own 5 of my own so I know quite a bit about the breed.  Most of all I learned a lot on the Molosser World website, this guy KNOWs what he is talking about and can spread Truth and Knowledge to the "ignorant" of all the Moloss Breeds.

 

Answer by PitLuvR
Submitted on 5/25/2004
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Pit Bull is not a body type...
American Pit Bull Terrier
American Staffordshire Terrier
Staffordshire Terrier
Bull Terrier
American Bull Dog
...all are Different breeds..some closer than others (ie...APBT and Amstaff are the closest "cousins" of the breeds)  American Bull dog being the Farthest (way far back) related.
AKC and UKC are not "knowledgeable" of the breeds, they are only Registers of the breeds...AKC don't know a damn thing about APBT'sanyway...they don't even Register them, it is UKC and ADBA.
All these breeds are extremely good with kids, especially the APBT....they ADORE children.
Whoever said "The Bull Dog is by far a more trustworthy companion than the pit bull."  how many APBT'shave you owned...this is the ONLY breed that has EVER had human aggression bred OUT of them.  Both are extremely loyal to their owners where as a Pit Bull is extremely loyal to ANY HUMAN...








 

Answer by CH
Submitted on 5/28/2004
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Good point pitluvr.  Any dog which was human aggressive was thought not to be a game dog, and even if it was it still couldn't be handled or doctored so it wouldn't ever be bred and it would usually be put down.  Their friendliness towards people was bred into them as an invaluable safety precaution to protect handlers, referee, and veterinarians in the middle of or following a dog fight.  That is why I will walk up and pet nearly any pit bull out there but ambulldogs, rotweilers, etc. I stay clear of.

 

Answer by AmBull Owner
Submitted on 5/30/2004
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AmBulls used to be known as the American Pitbull Dog, but was changed by John D. Johnson. AmBulls were used in the pit but were mainly used for farm work in the south such as hog catching. The name was changed to distinguish the 2 breeds. The American pitbull terrier is a bulldog/terrier cross. The American Bulldog is a Bulldog/mastiff cross, and is much larger than the pitbull, although there are two lines of american bulldog being bred a classic type(bully looking dog) and a standard type(smaller and more athletic type which may resemble a pitbull in looks but is still quite bigger usually a min of 80 lbs.)both are somewhat dog aggressive but should not be human aggressive unless trained that way or un- socialized.

 

Answer by caspergirl
Submitted on 6/2/2004
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Many of your answers are correct,many mis-spelled, and even more just plain rude! Before you resort to juvenile name calling...maybe you could learn to spell the names you call. With such mis-placed aggression, I can imagine how well trained your dog(s) would be. If I may add my two cents worth to the original discussion...I've owned and trained both breeds for many (30) years and love many of the good qualities of both breeds, but some of the more difficult aspects to consider in training these dogs make them unsuitable for novice owners and the casual enthusiasts. The sheer size and muscle of the AB make it a dangerous choice for the newbie, and the APBT can have a prey drive that makes it impossible to have around ANY other animals. Please exercise caution in acquiring any of these animals, a poor choice only ends up frustrating the new owner, but can have far more serious consequences for the poor, out-of-control animal. I love dogs, but all dogs are not for all people.  Thank you and good luck.

 

Answer by Scotty T
Submitted on 6/5/2004
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Im just courious about this breed.  We have many children around the neighborhood and household and just eondering if this would be the type of dog for us.  If anyone knows any info please let us know.  Thank you

 

Answer by Ambull Owner
Submitted on 6/6/2004
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No matter what the news media trys to say or what the myths are about these breeds these dogs were once bred as fighters so they retain the dog aggressiveness, but good breeders breed away from human aggression. Many good breeders even cull dogs that growl at humans. Many times an attack is either, a product of some backyard breeders stock, or mistaken identity. The media always reports pitbull, and american bulldog attacks but never golden retriever or lab attacks. Try reading some of the books available like the World of Fighting dogs by Carl Semencic, or The Working American Bulldog by Dave Putnam. They explain the history and todays uses for these dogs.

 

Answer by cherub
Submitted on 6/12/2004
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american bulldogs are not mean aggresive dogs. mine is 3 years old and never hurt anyone. we also have 2 other dogs and a cat. and i have 2 kids. never once has she been mean. she actually has been like another mother to all of them. she has been one of the best dogs i have ever known. i also do not think that pits are anything like bulldogs. i would never trust to leave my child in the room with a pit.

 

Answer by I Know Pitbulls
Submitted on 6/15/2004
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To tell you the truth have you people Know what your talking about most do not first pitbulls are a breed not a body type And American bulldogs and Pitbulls are not the same they ones were used for fighting but unlike the pitbull American Bulldogs were not breed for fighting if you realy want to learn some thing about pitbulls buy a Richard Stratton book on pitbulls and Cagey1 what are you talking about were talking about pitbulls and bulldogs nobody asked for spell check

 

Answer by maverick
Submitted on 6/18/2004
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some of you are just plain stupid the long winded guy is mostly right if not competly they look the same because of god wanting us to know that look of a dog is not nessarally a bad thing 1st a pit bull is a damn mutt desending from a strat.tr. and mixed w/ a few of other dogs that looked simaler that you stupid ass would have this fight over them 2nd their is NO STRAT. blood in AB at all it is in the mastiff family 3rd the reason they are the way they are is becuase the mastiff was breed w/ what we know as an engilsh bulldog to make the Stander Bulldog a non agrsive gaurd dog whice is what the 2 dogs are cassifed as now  and the reason scott&johnson are know is because in WW2 they were  us to gaurd officers in the army and they took a 90% loose to the breed because they did their jobs and proticted  The ones that did not die in battle were later killed instead of retraining them to live as non-working or gaurd dogs. Ive read more on these dogs then anything eles in my life so beleave it   oh and some of u dumb ass should just keep things to your self and go pick up a book
  L8er Maverick

 

Answer by Mapup
Submitted on 6/22/2004
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I have an American bulldog/boxer mix and she is just the greatest, very intimidating, but loving, her mother is my sister's dog and she is very protective of my sister's three children, i had a pit bull, and she was great until she almost killed my Pomeranian, although I'm not putting pit bulls down, i would choose an American bulldog over a pit bull, i had a rabbit, he died and even tho I've seen her hunt and kill wild rabbits she never once was mean toward my bunny or my cats or my goat

 

Answer by zepplen
Submitted on 6/22/2004
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to whom it may concern i have a an american bulldog and pitbull terrier both are a handfull and alot of laughs and its hard to distinguish one an another for breed type i also have a 4 week old baby that both dogs by my suprise seem care about with extreme passion.if you are looking to buy a dog  check the temperment of boodline look at parents of puupies. cause it doent matter how a dog is raised a pitbull is always a pitbull and the same with ab. bad tempaerments are a direct result of poor breeding

 

Answer by JP
Submitted on 7/15/2004
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if you look at the AB history they were also bred to fight as well as work. sames as the Pit Bulls.

 

Answer by American Bulldog Breeder
Submitted on 8/2/2004
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Like I said above American Bulldogs and PitBulls are not the same. Both great dogs but, two different dogs. The only common nitch in with them is they both have Bulldog in the blood. Also neither one should ever be owned by a inexperienced dog owner. Inexperineced owners is what gives every dog breed a bad name.

 

Answer by jr n houston
Submitted on 8/12/2004
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I owned a pb that was a very smart and good dog.
During the 80's too many pb were attacking humans all over the usa. Many munincipalities were trying to ban them or require million dollar insurance policies from the pb owners.
When interviewed by the news media, all the owners of the pit bulls that had recently attacked humans all said the exact same thing.........they all said "My dog never acted like that before!"
I had to start believing that comment as true.

 

Answer by Daniel
Submitted on 8/13/2004
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hey what about the new blood lines of pitts the blue fawn and all those they seam to have low stamana and thr giant pitts look lick hounds.what do tou think?

 

Answer by Suse
Submitted on 8/26/2004
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FYI:  The black and tan pitbull is not extinct. I have one she is gorgeous. If anyone needs to see a pic,I don't mind sending one.  Her name is Zeena, my warrior princess.  She is laid back and in control, loves children and only fires up when put into her training mode for personal protection and defense training.  What a girl! Only 2 yrs old.

 

Answer by bulldog breeder
Submitted on 8/30/2004
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No,they are not the same.There are many reason's people mistake the two.The APBT was a bulldog terrier cross,but the gameness comes from the bulldog.They were both fought to start with.The first name of the AB was American pit bulldogs.Breeders breed in terrier  type dogs to make the dog more compact.Easy to handle in a fighting pit.With either check the temperment of the line.If both parents are hard driven,their offspring will be similar.I think there are good and bad in both breeds.If you look you can also find stable temperment in both.

 

Answer by Adam
Submitted on 9/6/2004
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Bull dogs are more safe than pitbulls because of biting capacity.

 

Answer by Adam
Submitted on 9/6/2004
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Bull dogs are more safe than pitbulls because of biting capacity.

 

Answer by ken moore
Submitted on 9/8/2004
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please dont get it mistakin i have a pitt bull dog but u just have to look at how many pitt bull dogs attack and the how many times have american bulldogs attacked people not many at alll i understand its how u raise the dog but i raised my dog with love and care but i cant let her around and kids she will try to kill then and her was never abused by a child or me

 

Answer by marc
Submitted on 9/9/2004
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the american bulldog is a great dog,and so is the pitbull.at work,nothing beats the american bulldog,but the breed is nothing in the ring.I for one think that pit bulls are unusefull accept in fighting.

 

Answer by Nick
Submitted on 9/9/2004
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This is not a spelling contest. You donít need to know how to spell to know about dogs. I'm terrible at that and I do know about my American Bulldog and about other dogs. I believe this web site is to educate and inform people about the difference between American Bulldogs and Pitt Bulls: and I do agree, American Bulldogs are NOT the same as pit bulls. The Pit Bull is a fighting dog, and itís a shame that many accidents have happened in the past, but some of them can be understandable and  foreseeable while others are not,  for example here in Florida a man was called the clean a pool, unfortunately for the cleaning man the owner of the house forgot to cage his 2 pit bulls and since they were left loose and as any other dog they are territorial (even the smallest dog will become defensive if you invade their space) they attacked the man and almost mauled him to death. For this I will say that it was not the dogs' fault. Itís the owners...
But when I hear that a little girl is attacked or even killed by a Pitt Bull for no reason, this makes me think twice, there is a problem with this breed, as far as I know there are unpredictable and that scares me.
Pit bulls are the most controversial breed, I have met people that tell me that they have had this dogs and they are sweet and caring but then I meet with others that they had to put their dog to sleep since they became overly aggressive, territorial and temperamental, even when they were treated like part of the family and never abused.
So far I have never heard that an American Bulldog has snapped and killed someone, in fact my American Bulldog is so good with children that even kids in my neighborhood come and play with him, and he loves it, has never showed signs of aggressiveness. He respects and also knows when to be protective.
If I had to choose between an American Bulldog and a Pit Bull I will definitely choose an American Bulldog.

 

Answer by terrier hater
Submitted on 9/12/2004
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Their are seprate breeds of american bulldogs,the johnson type being the most popular.My personal favorite being the performance scott type.the differences between these two types are [preydrive] anyone who is a [pitman] Knows what prey drive is. The american[pitbull]terrier is a dog I personally do not approve of,do in part that they are [a dime a dozen type of dog],they do not impress me in the least.Fighting ability between the two is according to [preydrive]I'vseen staged maches between 60lb pit terriers and 80lb performances scotts with the results almost always the same for the first 15 to 20 minutes the larger dog dominates the match 50% of the time injuring the smaller dog.Although after 20 minutes the [preydrive] of both dogs will be revealed and it is simply [preydrive] that will determine the resultes of a good dog fight. people say that the pit terrier is the only fighting dog the tosa also qualifies such that it is illegal in most contries.Never the less I have a 110lbs performance[scott] i had his jaw pressure measured at just under 1400LBS.thats freekish i know.he is also good with kids but thier is something about pits and dobermans he dont like.        

 

Answer by nwhite538@aol.com
Submitted on 9/13/2004
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We adopted a pit bull from a city pound.  the various breeds...dont know.  I know we have the most wonderful dog for us.  He came with scars(not fighting scars)and had a food issue. solved the food issue quickly but his screaming in his nightmares lasted about a year.  He is the most loving and loyal animal.  Don't regret getting him and actually don't know what we'd do without him.  and if we hadn't adopted him he might be dead today.....he was at the pound about 4 months and because of what he is, he wasn't, or couldn't be adopted.  I can not begin to imagine this dog being killed.  but he would have been. instead, he is a very important member of our family.

 

Answer by tay
Submitted on 9/15/2004
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I thinkanydog that has teeth can bite.Pittbulls are not bad dogs It's just the way you raise them because you can raise any dog the right way it's on the dog because a dog has amind of it's own.pittbull hav a bad name because all people want to do is fight them and treat the rong so they can be mean to other people or dog's.If I can change the laws on having pittbulls I would say that you can raise pittbull but dont raise them rong because the first bite from any dogjust not pittbullthey would be put to sleep only if needed.

 

Answer by teach
Submitted on 9/17/2004
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Jp is right!  My sister has an AB and a 3 week old baby. So... I have been doing my research.  Both breeds were used and bred for fighting. I have also found many warnings online about faulty breeding between the two species. Breeding is not handled by the AKC not because of the "show" controversy, but because they do not want the responsibility of guarantying the pureness of the breed. If you do your research, you will find, that noone knows for sure how many AB's are interbred with pit bulls.  And that their papers are from off the wall carriers that most of the time cannot guarantee their purity.
   I know that I would not trust my child around an AB or a pit.  As for the comment that you only hear about the bad pits or the pits that were abused, this is untrue.  Almost every story that is told of an attack resulting in severe injury or death, the family says that they never saw it coming!  That the dog was excellent with children, a good companion, and very loving.  And then one day they just flip out or who knows what sets them off.  I do not think that there could be a 100% trust factor with these dogs. These dogs bite to kill, not to deter.

 

Answer by 3dogs
Submitted on 9/17/2004
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I have no idea about this breed - I was just curious to find out and get some information.  However, after reading all of the ridiculous verbal combat over the differences in a freaking breed of dog, I have to wonder who are these owners and why are they so angry?

In the wake of all the tragedy we have seen recently, it seems as though priorities are just a little screwed up.  Everyone just calm down for crying out loud.

 

Answer by Josh13
Submitted on 9/20/2004
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NO!!!!! American Bulldog arnt the same....My cousin had a pitbull and it tried to bit my.My 4 year old American bulldog is so nice it would never bit someone unless someone tried to hert me or an threat was around.Josh Pitbull are GAY

 

Answer by Josh13
Submitted on 9/20/2004
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NO!!!!! American Bulldog arnt the same....My cousin had a pitbull and it tried to bit my.My 4 year old American bulldog is so nice it would never bit someone unless someone tried to hert me or an threat was around.Josh Pitbull are GAY

 

Answer by Julie
Submitted on 9/28/2004
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Well, I just got my first American Bulldog. To be honest she scares me.  She is very territorial. She doesn't let anyone in the house. Not even my mother!  I have to put her in the garage.  She is aggressive toward others and poeple.  Is there something I can do?  She is 10 months old.  HELP!  I love her but it's rough.

 

Answer by QUE PASA
Submitted on 9/30/2004
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I OWN A MALE APB AND A FEMALE ABD AND HONESTLY IT DEPENDS ON THE DOG. MY APB WAS ALOT EASIER TO TRAIN AND IS MORE LAID BACK. MY ABD IS ALOT MORE HYPER AND PLAYFUL. I ALSO HAVE A TWO YEAR OLD SON AND NEVER WORRY ABOUT EITHER DOG DOING ANYTHING TO MY SON. IF ANYTHING I WORRY ABOUT MY GERMAN SHEPPARD MORE THAN MY APB AND ABD. SO ONCE AGAIN IT DEPENDS ON THE DOG.

 

Answer by richard
Submitted on 10/5/2004
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Dont know one know anything?

American pitbulls where bred to pull karts of coal from  pits in the old days, hence the Name ( come on people ) & american bulldogs should be called Englsh bulldogs & all these other names of dogs are just crossbreeds from the orginal English bulldog & people just get annoyed & becuase they dont like hearing there dog is a crossbreed?

 

Answer by Lough sun
Submitted on 10/10/2004
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Dear Mr Zepplen you stole my thunder you baaad man..  I will say this about the subject my family were slaves back in the old south and our job for Master Murdock MacPherson was to train and keep his sporting bulldogs ie: Bull and or Dog baiting. My family has at least ioo years connection to the fighting pitbull and his cousins the AMBD AMstaff and the Alapaha Blue blood bulldog, all of these dogs have a smattering of each others blood in them before the 1940's cause before that these dogs were know by many names. The White English, Mountain Bulldog, Pitbull and Bull and Terrier and many numerouse others. Pedigres were not super important because these dogs were bred for utility work either fighting or hunting and catching, temperment was paramount back in the 30's you could find an all black AMBD but not now due to color standards of the breed. And this was done to seperate one line of bulldog from another thus longer muzzles for pitbulls and more undershot muzzles for AMDB's, this was just to cause the dogs to have a different classification.  So in my usuall long winded fashion I have said all of this to say that the difference isnt much in any case and the dogs are pretty much what they were 70 years ago.  Oh yea the Alapaha Blue Blood  Bulldog is a mostly old english bulldog mixed to a Catahoula Leopard dog it is still a bulldog cause after about the last seventy years very little Catahoula has been re-introduced into it, mostly pitbull and AMDB.  Thanks so much.
sincerely Lough Sun   P.S. the bad spelling is due to me being very dyslexic so make fun if you must

 

Answer by J dogg
Submitted on 10/13/2004
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American bulldogs and pit bull terriers are 2 totally different dogs. if you don't know this you don't know much about either breed. the American bulldog is in the mastiff family, and the pit bull is in the terrier family. the whole reason the pit bull was bred was to kill something. thats what terriers do, a jack russell terrier will attack a squirrel and not stop till it's dead. a pit bull is the same way only with bigger prey (maybe a child). an American bulldog was bred for work. they will take a bull down by the nose and (hold it) until it's owner comes and calls it off. American bulldogs of course could be mean if you made it that way, but it is a pit bulls natural instinct. the main selling point for us on American bulldogs is their known fondness and protectiveness of children. we have a 3 year old child, a 6 year old female American bulldog (purebred), and a 9 week old male American bulldog (purebred). we have had 0 problems. my brother has a super nice 4 year old pit (or so it seems) but she has gotten in fights with 2 other dogs in 6 months for no obvious reason. it angers me that people even try to classify the two breeds as even close to the same. but i love the chance to educate people about bulldogs. if you don't believe me do some research on the internet. bulldogs = good family dog            pit bulls = sufficient pet for adults if well maintained always use caution around children

 

Answer by slarman
Submitted on 10/16/2004
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To be blunt-This is unanswerable.From personal experience I spoke to some old timers of APBT's in the early '80's who told me the Pit Bull was a cross bred of old Southern Bulldog and an Irish terrier possibly the Patterdale,which incidentally throws red red nose.This cross was made post Civil War.It only takes 5-8 generations to create a pure dog and if your culling hard it will take less.Inbreeding is not an issue as the German Shepherd and Australian Kelpie,to name two,were created from 1 dog.As for the American Bulldog,it is more likely to be the most direct ancestor of the true British,though it has been watered down by crosses,but for the right reasons ie to enhance working ability and temperament.The Pit Terrier is just that a Terrier as the breed has been more selectively bred for terrier traits over Bulldog traits and probably deserves to have the Bull removed from it's name.

 

Answer by kennyv
Submitted on 10/17/2004
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i have two amercan pits and an old beagle, ive heard all the bs about dogs not being compatible,or not trusting pits but thats not the case with our babies.these dogs are the most loving,protective,well mannered dogs ive ever had bar none,it all depends on how there raised! just like a child.

 

Answer by neutral opinion
Submitted on 10/19/2004
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both great guard dogs for and with children.  The pitbull can thank the bull dog for its muscle mass that is there similarity.  These dogs need good owners to keep them good dogs!

 

Answer by interestedbullybreedowner
Submitted on 10/20/2004
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i have had apbt and loved them all i rescued a puppy i thought was a pitbull sorry for the slang but its just easier and with this group it doesnt seem to matter what i want to know is what is this dog i rescued its 90 pounds now at 15 months age thats a guess of corse not knowing its actual date of birth hes white andfor a pit hes big but for an ab hes small ive looked for countles hours tring to decide what he is on the net and the fact is no one can give me a straight awnser do any of you know how i can tell what he is when he matchs the dimensons of both

 

Answer by pl2005
Submitted on 10/20/2004
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AB's and APBT did originate from the original bulldog. When pits were first bred it was not for fighting it was for bull baiting/hog catching, which they are still used today for hog catching. The only reason they became the "Pit Bull" is because bull baiting was outlawed in Europe rather than letting the breed go to waist they began breeding them to fight each other.
The differences between the two are obvious
AB's taller, usually weigh more, muzzle for the most part is shorter. The most important difference is Pit Bulls are a terrier. They have the power of the original bulldog and the heart and mean streak of a terrier. As far as behavior goes pits are usually good around kids and people provided they've been raised that way which also goes for AB's. Me personally I like AB's better just because it's hard to have more than one dog when your pit wants to kill it. I wouldn't say they are two way different breeds because they were breed from the same original bulldog.

 

Answer by Pit Bulldog
Submitted on 10/24/2004
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APBTs AND ABs are very simular. They were the exact same breed. The ABs in the south that hunt wild pigs or hogs are called White Bulldogs and Brindle Bulldogs. They have tight lips like a ABPT. And alot of characteristics that are  similar. Some like Dave Putnman said," Brindle Bulldogs are big Pit Bulls that are bred for catch work, really the same dog as a White Bulldog, just a different color." They are diffrent breeds, but some areas like in south and elsewere that use perfomance ABs you almost can't tell them apart. Because they look the same and have the same job title of being a BullDog. True BullDogs  can catch bulls and hogs. Also they are not to be human aggressive.Both the APBTs and ABs have perfomance bred type Bulldogs that  would catch a bull and then watch your baby.                                        

 

Answer by Pit Bulldog
Submitted on 10/24/2004
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APBTs AND ABs are very simular. They were the exact same breed. The ABs in the south that hunt wild pigs or hogs are called White Bulldogs and Brindle Bulldogs. They have tight lips like a ABPT. And alot of characteristics that are  similar. Some like Dave Putnman said," Brindle Bulldogs are big Pit Bulls that are bred for catch work, really the same dog as a White Bulldog, just a different color." They are diffrent breeds, but some areas like in south and elsewere that use perfomance ABs you almost can't tell them apart. Because they look the same and have the same job title of being a BullDog. True BullDogs  can catch bulls and hogs. Also they are not to be human aggressive.Both the APBTs and ABs have perfomance bred type Bulldogs that  would catch a bull and then watch your baby.                                        

 

Answer by Bossdog
Submitted on 10/26/2004
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Why hasn't anyone mentioned the fact that both bloodlines have been crossed? Any fool can look at a Johnson dog and see the English Bulldog and Mastiff in him. You can also see the Pitbull in the Scott lines. Then you have the crossing of both Scott & Johnson. I know this will anger many people since some of you seem to favor one over the other. As far as work is concerned, both breeds have been used for hog hunting, fighting and weight pull competitions. This is primarily based on the body type, not the breed. Certain bloodlines were obviously selectively breed for different purposes. Lately the trend seems to be SIZE. For the most part working dogs are a thing of the past. Luckily both breeds have good lines left if you look hard enough for them. The bloodline is just as important as the training.

 

Answer by KAYLA
Submitted on 10/26/2004
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LOOK THERE IS NO DIFF..CAUSE I KING FEDE SAID SOOOOOOOOOO

 

Answer by New Zealand gal
Submitted on 10/27/2004
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I am from New Zealand.

We have a 52kg purebreed American Bulldog who is almost two years old. We have had him since he was 6 weeks and we socialised him with other dogs. He went to puppy preschool and we also had another dog at the time, a female staffy cross, that he is socialised with. He is loved to death by us, never been mistreated etc.  He is the most loving, gentle dog ever with us, yet has the most scary prey-drive and animal aggression. He tried to kill our cat and is so very aggressive to other dogs.  He is under lock and key here and is muzzled when out but he is such a handful and very stressful to take out that I don't go, for fear of him ripping up a little dog or cat.

Saying this, he is so good around children that it is frightening to witness how aggressive he can get to other animals.  He has massive jaw power and is so muscular that once he gets hold of something, he won't let go.  I think AB'S need something to do like pig-hunting and we wish we got him into it when he was small.  American Bulldogs are not sit around home dogs and the one on Homeward Bound is a myth.  Chasing chickens!!    

 

Answer by Teddy
Submitted on 10/28/2004
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Hello everyone!  Some of these answers are so hilarious, but to answer the question...they are NOT the same.  I own two American Bulldogs and they are the best.  You can also talk to one of the 'originals'...Mr. John D. Johnson in Summerville, Georgia.  Call him or visit.  He loves company and will explain to you the difference.  706-857-1272 Have a blessed day!

 

Answer by jeremiah
Submitted on 11/9/2004
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I am not going to say that i know everything there is to know about the to breeds, but i do know that i own two APBT and i also have a 1 year old daughter who plays with the both of them and is rougher with them than they are with her. Just choose your dog responsibly and enjoy the years of fun growing up with dog and your child.

 

Answer by vb
Submitted on 11/11/2004
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I've noticed a couple of good answers! But lots of idiots who will turn out to give all of these breeds a bad name regardless of how you choose to categorize them. These breeds seem to attract many of a dubious nature. I have raised both APBT'sand AB'sfor most of my life. Very simple; APBT'sare TERRIERS and AB'sare MASTIFFS. AB'sshare virtually the same history as Bullmastiffs, English Mastiffs, Boxers and many, many more. If you don't believe, do some research and find the common denominators. But my plead to most of you on this board... try getting a cat, really!

 

Answer by bulldogmaster347
Submitted on 11/12/2004
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A APBT and a AB are some alike but has difference the APBT are more sorter lighter and faster that the way they were meant to be created the AB is fast but not ass fast Y because it need its weight to do its job meant to be a working dog need weight and muscles to do the job infect the APBT is more a sport dog but the right sport not to be a fighter more like pull weights or run and hold to ropes. One thing i can say is that both breed are the smartest and loyal dog i have ever seen i own both breeds and they are the best pet to own for a families with kids. If anyone need more info email me at Bulldogmaster347@adelphia.net or bulldogmaster347@aol.com I am a breeder off AB and OEB

 

Answer by lale and laura and caroline....
Submitted on 11/14/2004
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AMERCIAN BULLDOGS AND AMERICAN PITBULLS ARE NOTHING ALIKE . AV HAD 2 OUTSTANDING PITS. SALLE & CLEOPATRA AND A KNOW WHAT AM TAKIN ABOUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY DIED BUT THERE  STILL ME LAURA AND MY MUM CAROLINE'S!!!!!!!!!!!
LALE SUPPORTS THE DOGS AND THE BREED IS NOT FIECE AND NOT STUPID!!!!!!!!  

 

Answer by uk bulldogs
Submitted on 11/15/2004
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the pitbulll is not the same as ab,the olde english bulldog was crossed with the now exstinct manchester terrier then came the bull/terrier...rosa & crib can be seen clearly as just bulldog..then the breed was taken to you lot in the usa and through selective breeding on gameness made the american pitt bull..as a breeder of pitts,staffies,english bulls and american bulldog..these breeds were bread for many differant usess but the ab is not the same as a pitt,one was breed for catch work and guardion the other for fighting....

 

Answer by angie
Submitted on 11/16/2004
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A American bulldog are very temperamental. Although all terriers originate from the same family they are all very different. Bulldogs are fighting and aggressive dogs.
Pitballs are more of a family pet and will get on with children and other dogs.

 

Answer by tim
Submitted on 11/19/2004
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yes they are the same dam thing how dum can you get

 

Answer by bama
Submitted on 11/22/2004
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pit bulls and amarican bulls are different breeds. but to anser your question both of these dogs have a fighting background but they were bread to fight bulls and other dogs. On the other hand they were bread to be non aggressive tords people so the owners of the fighting dogs could handle them and separate a fight without getting bit. So no it is unlikely that either of these dogs would bite a child.

 

Answer by Breeder
Submitted on 11/22/2004
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I honestly think that before anyone states an opinion, they should do their homework on the subject! Pit bulls or bull terriers or whatever you want to call them, are a cross breed of terriers and bulldogs. Type varies by the type of terrier and the type of bulldog. If you want to compare, the pit is more of a kind of bulldog NOT a bulldog a kind of pit. The pit bull is by far on the A-list of loyal companions. I strongly agree that pit bulls if trained and cared for, can be as loyal as any other dog if not more. I own an American bulldog, and I have also trained pit bulls. In my own opinion, I think they are both highly intelligent. They both possess extreme capabilities, and can be wonderful working dogs or family pets. Not to mention they are also RELATED!   P.S. ANY DOG THAT IS TRAINED TO BE AGGRESSIVE WILL ONLY KNOW HOW TO BE AGGRESSIVE.

 

Answer by dmoney
Submitted on 11/22/2004
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if pitbulls are nice then drop your kids off at my house with the three pits in the back yard and come back 2 hours later your most likely gonna be on the news bet you cant find your kids                                                                                                                                 p.s. how many times you heard a ab eatin some kid

 

Answer by Big
Submitted on 11/24/2004
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Well, after all the dust clears, I'll just say to the young lady with the original question, you just need to know that what ever dog you choose whether it be a poodle or pit bull, please NEVER leave your young children or child unsupervised around any dog.  Always use precaution because no one will ever know what's really going on in any animals mind. By the way, I'm an owner of two protective, loyal, funny, but at times stubborn American Bulls.   Do your home work and read lots of material before making a choice.

Big "C" in Maryland

 

Answer by dan
Submitted on 11/29/2004
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I have an American bulldog male what if I breed it with a female pit bull.

 

Answer by gutcheck
Submitted on 12/4/2004
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it's ashame that people spend more time disrespecting one another on the history of the apbt and ab when in truth we should all just appreciate these breeds and be responsible owners and breeders. If you want history there is plenty of it in the library or internet..buy a book and read and give up the discord and enjoy the bully breed for they are the best in the dog world.

 

Answer by G
Submitted on 12/6/2004
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You people are all so confusing. . .
I do not own a dog, although I am now in the research faze of finding an AB Johnson Standard and all it takes is two brain cells to rub together to know that Pitbulls are not the same as an American Bulldog. Pitbulls have a bad reputation of being killers and evil dogs...But as a few have said if your dog is hell to handle its only one persons fault...No Not the breeder...YOU FOOL~!
So love your dog and all animals the same.
And they will love you back.

 

Answer by Lily
Submitted on 12/6/2004
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Pit bulls are vicious dogs but there are nice pit bulls out there. Bulldogs are practically the same thing. One thing to remember is that you should ask how this dog reacts. You can't always tell if the dog will behave with kids.

 

Answer by painter
Submitted on 12/14/2004
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O.K everyone here says one thing or another but they are different dogs as far as the amer.bulldog they are a nice breed.and all you supposed pitbul people hmmm no mention of the gameness of the pits.could this be the difference ????

 

Answer by amy
Submitted on 12/15/2004
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Just look up each different breed on the internet and you will see for yourselves instead of arguing over something so ridiculous as dog breeds. Truth is a dumbass.

 

Answer by Princess
Submitted on 12/18/2004
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Pitbull and Bulldogs come from some of the same ansisters.Well yhea they both have the word (Bull) in them but that doesn't mean anything.
They both can lock there jaw,and they both have
the very same musle asept the pitbull is way stronger.Well I would say yes they are alike.

 

Answer by pbbreeder
Submitted on 12/21/2004
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i breed am staff/apbt,truth and ryan know what they are talking about. the am staff blood line has been tampered with so bad that many pb look very different from one another. unlike the american bull dog where most of them look pretty much alike

 

Answer by Dog lover
Submitted on 12/29/2004
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No, the bulldog and the pit-bull are not the same. I have a pit-bull and my friend has a bulldog and their characters are very unsimilar.The pit-bulls might have some characters from a bulldog but to tell you the truth, they are somewhat different. Don't get me wrong because this my opinion and this is what I know. Plus I'm only 12 and having a pit-bull is the best thing that ever happened to me!

 

Answer by Judge Toenail
Submitted on 1/9/2005
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The American Bulldog is a cross between a Scottish terrier and a Borzoi.
I thought everyone knew that.
A pit bull however is a cross between an alligator and my mother in law.

Spelling on this site is atrocious by the way, but inevitably if red necks are keeping these dogs in most case, we aren't going to get a very articulate input.

 

Answer by Ki-Ki
Submitted on 1/10/2005
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I Own a puppy named Chopper and I have be questioning what kind of dog he is from the beginning. He is 16wks and I've had him since he was 3wks. The person who sold him to me told me he was a American Bull Dog. I thought he was a pit bull mix, I just didn't know what he was mixed with. But the Vet said he was a pit-bull mix and I said to myself maybe he is both. I can see why this is so controversial because the two dogs have some of the same features. Now I can tell the difference because his jaws drop just a little more than a pits and he is brindle I wish I could put pics on here but either way it goes he is a wonderful DOG

 

Answer by pitbulllover
Submitted on 1/14/2005
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i dont know about bulldogs but i find pit bulls r vary nice if u treat them right.like my uncle Jayson has a pitbull she is so sweet.she sometimes is nicer then my yorkie.not all pit bulls r the same.some r smarter,sweeter,nicer.im not saying that all pitbulls r nice.what im saying is that most r.there good with kids,i should know because im 12.my lil sis is 2 and westing is great with her.so all those people that say all pit bulls r bad its not true.in fact when im older im doing to get a pit bull.
i think they should stop the ban in Ontario.thats all i have to say for now

 

Answer by Seacore
Submitted on 1/18/2005
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I have a pit bull and he 19 months.  I never thought that I would own such a breed, but I am intelligent enough to know that if you raise your dog right and socialize him, he will be just fine.  I love my pit and he is great with my grandchildren and they also love him.  Infact, he thinks he is one of the kids when they are around.  Now, I have rescued and adopted an American Bulldog and he is around a year old give or take month.  He is so sweet, layed back and obedient.  I know that I may have my hands a little full, but I spoil my animals and take very good care of them from having all of their shots, eating good dog food, plenty of attention, to taking them for rides in my car to visit my family members and they love my dogs as well.  My dogs have plenty of toys to play with and they know that they are wanted and loved.  No matter what breed of dog you have, always feed them good dog food and take good care of your animals and they will love and look out for you.  Talk to them, hug them, play with them and when you have to discipline  ( and you will ) that is part of raising your pups. You should discipline in a positive way not with cruel or abusive intent. Bottom line, I think both breeds are fine and very good with children.  People, you also have to watch the kids to make sure that they are abusive to the dogs.   Don't let them pull their ears and their tales.  That way you will not have to worry about the dog getting back at someone because of constant abuse.

 

Answer by Krystal
Submitted on 1/20/2005
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I am so glad people stoped posting here. There is more hostility in here then I ever hoped to be possible between any two dog lovers.

 

Answer by Hooz
Submitted on 1/22/2005
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No they arent the same I own an american bulldog, and an APBT , yes they are great with kids , mine is the family clown, but like all dogs they need to be raised right, and some of these answers are scary considering they automatically go through a spell checker before being posted, or maybe u thought that pop up was from a porn site u visited last night when your uncle larry stopped by with a 12 pack of cheap beer...but hey it`s your life.

 

Answer by Dagger
Submitted on 1/24/2005
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Actually most of you are wrong

 

Answer by fuzzi2005
Submitted on 1/29/2005
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American Bulldog is the same as a pit bull! I am a breeder of pitbulls and there are many different types. I am amazed at all the people that have answered this ad and have no idea what they are talking about. But like I said they are all Pitbulls! Some people call them pitbulls some call them bulldogs.You could have a Homer, Blue, American,Colby,Texas Red Devil, Red Nose,
The list goes on and on But What I suggest you do is find someone you know Knows what they are talking about cause from what I have saw not many people here do!

 

Answer by Bull's Dad
Submitted on 1/31/2005
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No, American Bulldogs Are not the same as Pit Bulls.I owned both breeds and although they look similar they have different blood lines. Read the history on both of the dogs and not just one book read several it could only help to educate you better. I personally stand behind what American bulldog breeder wrote, But to each their own. As far as with kids. The American Bulldog is a bold and ancient Knight sent to guard and protect to the end of its life if so called upon without ever asking for the same in return. I have a male and a female which I have breed. Both of my animals are champions. My male is 6 and female 5. My daughters are 8 and 4. They have pulled, hit, poured juice on, poked in eyes and even squeezed my males yoohoos and all resorted in a short sigh and then back to snoring they go. My 4 year old rides my male around the house like a horse. Complaints? Nah. That's his daughter too.Just understand that they may play a little rough with a squirrel or bird or a hamster. Then again were not talking about some pansy ass breeds now are we? As far as my spelling and word structure Never said I was one of them there professors. Good Luck. God Bless    

 

Answer by prober
Submitted on 2/3/2005
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final word: THEY ALL COME FROM FREAK'NWOLVES AT ONE POINT A DOG IS A DOG IS A DOG. Word to the wise, plan to spend your time constructively.

 

Answer by LUKE
Submitted on 2/3/2005
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Man people can get angry when they feal there being challanged about there knowledge on a certain subject. Personally I feal more confused after reading all the statments written above.

 

Answer by dustin
Submitted on 2/4/2005
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The two dogs are NOT the same. for the most part some people were close. AB'swere around for Many many years. the problem is that no one kept records of thier breeding programs. thats why they can't say if a dog came from a mastiff or what, they can only speculate, like most people here are. the irish and Brit's brought over fighting dogs and these dogs were mixed with bulldogs and Terriers. do to secret breedings and other such things they can only speculate. For the most part PITS are speculated to be a (which i believe it is or was) 50/50 cross between bulldogs and terriers. bulldogs back then are not what they are today. The original bulldog was breed with a pug to get the "english" bulldog, and the "american" bulldog is closely related to the Original. the "o" bulldog was used for bull baiting and other working tasks.
These dogs PITS and AB'sare closely related because they share a common genetic trait. one "helped" to produce the other.
AB'slike PITS can be aggressive. most AB'sdon't have the animal aggression like pits do, but as with any dog or breed can have the tendency.
dog-dog aggression is something that is "wired" into pits, you can't trust them not to fight with other dogs, but you can trust them to not attach humans. its just the way they were breed, period. AB'swere used for protection and bull baiting. they do show aggression, if not socialized well, towards strangers, once again the way they were breed.
So to answer the question with some facts, they are not the same dog,
some will look similar and have some of the same traits,but are considered different dogs. If anyone wants to answer a question, do research first. I own an AB and she looks just like a pit, but slightly larger. she has no dog aggression and isn't protective( atleast that i'veseen). so no matter what a dog was originally breed for, it how you raise them and how close they are to thier heritage. read before you write, it will help others from being misinformed.
And remember, since there is no written documentation on the evolution of these breeds, no one can tell what each actually came from. It can only be speculated and can only rule out certain things. Mastiffs are not part of AB'sfor the fact that you can't find an AB that is solid brown with a black muzzle. no matter how selective a breeding program is, one will still show up every now and again. read as much as you can and formulate your own perspective.

 

Answer by sage
Submitted on 2/4/2005
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there is no such thing as pit they use that word because they put them in a pit to fight them

 

Answer by ella
Submitted on 2/7/2005
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I have had many German Shepards but i took in a APBT that had been abused.He is now four and a half months old and he is the best dog i have ever had.I dont hesitate about leaving my daughters alone with him.He sleeps with them and protects them and acts like a mother to them.They are only 5 and 2 years of age.Any dog will turn if you mistreat them but he just wants to please me,unlike my children!They also seem to have a low pain threshold ,my baby girl pulls him and jumps on him he just licks them I dont know much about these dogs but myne is wonderful and i would have another anyday.Treat them well and they will love and protect you.

 

Answer by Yorkshire Terrier
Submitted on 2/11/2005
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A black/tan terrier that is now extinct? Would that be a Yorkshire Terrier by any chance? The very same dog that at this time is nowhere near extinct, but has thousands of them in the UK at this very time? Ahahahah, you idiot.

 

Answer by AB owner in canada
Submitted on 2/12/2005
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american bulldogs were bread with more agressive terriers to make a pit bull  read a book once in a while

 

Answer by maddog0026
Submitted on 2/13/2005
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Hello the american bulldog is the best way to go the american pitbull, amstaff, pitbull terriers should be put on an island by themselves, they can't be trusted. The american bulldog is a family pet.

 

Answer by Drewmeister
Submitted on 2/13/2005
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I have a dog, it's a very very nice dog!

 

Answer by Bullbreeder
Submitted on 2/21/2005
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I have a male Bulldog his mother was pit/english bulldog and the father is half American Bulldog (johnson)/1/25 Boxer ,1/25 Dogo Argentino , He is white and Brindle , stands 26 ' and is 97 pounds very good with my children, but is the most protective and intelligent dog i have ever own. would be interested in breeding him to a large Alpha-blue-blood female or French Mastiff ?

 

Answer by Malene
Submitted on 3/9/2005
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WOW - So many opinions on a simple question. No - APBT is not the same as as an ABT - ABT is an recognized breed in FCI and APBT is not.. they might have the same ancestors but that is where it ends..
Sorry about the spelling - I'm from Denmark..

 

Answer by Sfod18
Submitted on 3/9/2005
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Many of you are just giving your opinions of these breed types.  So many of you have ever owned both, i know i haven't.  I own a pit bull pup.  I saved her from the pound and she is about 11 weeks old.  Pit bulls are stereotyped,  bad pit bulls are as common as many other breeds.  If they are aggressive and bad then it has resulted from two things, bad bloodlines and bad owners/training.  We have two pit bull pups here and yes they are a handful when together fighting and stuff but no more than my two golden retriever pups when i had them.

 

Answer by Not saying
Submitted on 3/19/2005
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I don't know and i don't give a crap dang this website sucks

 

Answer by lucky
Submitted on 3/21/2005
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well, I got a tiger strip pitbull with ab blood and we mix it with a all american bulldog. The puppies look the same like a pit so all of ya'll shut up and learn more about dogs

 

Answer by JDog
Submitted on 3/23/2005
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I have had american bulldogs and pitbull dogs. It is how you raise the dog all the bull dog breeds are known to be animal or dog aggressive. I have two pits I have kept in the house for years and bolth of them are my beast catch dogs on hogs. I personally like the pit over the american bulldog. Yes pits are more aggressive ambulls are slower and usually get along with other dogs if socialized. pits are great dogs if socialized allso. the pit is verry eager to please his owner thats why he accels in the fighting pit. But they are a great catch dog. and for those of you that say  the pit does not have the build or the quickness or grittyness to stick with a hog. you folks can blow smoke up someone elses ass because youre talking to a southeast texas hoghunter.

 

Answer by llegere
Submitted on 3/28/2005
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My daughter has an Old English bulldog An his behavior is  Aggresive...from out of know where for no reasin like attacking our cats & family cocker/retriever out of know where!

 

Answer by sarah
Submitted on 4/6/2005
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no, pitbulls and american bulldogs are not the same but i dont think there is anything wrong with either. i have a pitt and she is great she good with my other dog and she is good with the family she is just over protective. she will go after people she dont know but she is young and starting to break that habbit if you introduce stuff to them when there young they will learn to like it.

 

Answer by vivvaro
Submitted on 4/7/2005
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but isnt  it true that jhonson and scott introduced pittbulls to there lines when they first started breeding infact i do believe it has been  documented somewhere that out of the 3 first breeders 1 did

 

Answer by hvymtlju
Submitted on 4/8/2005
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I have studied for years all of the bully breeds. They are different but have similar personality traits. A "Bully Breed" means that they all started originally with the the Bulldog. Anyone who does a fair amount of research will eventually find the right answers. I love all of them but am very partial to Am. Bulldogs and the Pitbull and the Staffordshires. I own all of the above and enjoy them immensely. My dogs are part of the family and each one has it's own job to do. "Ozzy" my red nosed golden eyed Pitbull'sjob is to love and entertain my twin girls now 11, my Am. Bulldog (Porter) his job is to protect everyone in the house and all of our stuff (and play with his favorite flashlight! hehe) Sharon my beautiful Am Staff, well, she just tells people not to come in the yard and loves to sleep with me! Titus is an Argentinian Dogo and he does the "police thing!" I can tell him "check it/find it" and he will search out an intruder or go find the kids! All of them will find the kids and bring which ever one I want. For example; I can say where is Steven and they will take me to him! they are stubborn, have their own minds, like to tear up paper, play chase and hide and go seek, they are very , very, smart. they all love their family and are all ready to protect us if need be. Because they are all "Bully" and they do have to be managed. Porter is the top dog! ask him he will tell you! hehe. Titus is next but has an extreme amount of self control and just throws "dirty side looks" Sharon is next and she is a character.. She can take a bone out of Porters mouth and all he does is look at me like "uh...mom aren't you gonna get her in trouble?" funny. Then there is Ozzy..... Well he hated Marisa'aHamster(like it was gross or something)that was funny! He has a super deep voice and sounds like a lion but turns his nose up at things he doesn't like and is afraid of the dachshunds next door (one bit him)! They all have their own personality but bear a lot of the same traits. like stubbornness, chewing, having a party in the house when you are not there... I come home to explosions of Kleenex and toilette paper and god forbid they get into the trash!! hehe I do have 5 kids, 4 dogs, a bird a hubby that works out of town. They are all great with kids, you should socialize them EARLY and treat them with respect and they will do the same!  

 

Answer by jj
Submitted on 4/10/2005
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there both bread from a very old type of dog known only as a bull dog,years of selective beading with terriers formed the Staffordshire bull terrier,english bulldog and olde english bulldog and english bull terrier, some one brought the staff to America and called it a Pitt bull cause it used to fight in the working pitts of north England.The American bull dog was formed from the same dog not bread to be smaller but stay the same.They bread with masstiffs then the new English bulldog.So there not the same but very simular.


 

Answer by mike
Submitted on 4/13/2005
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no they are not the same. but they both come from the same dog. the mastif. pit bulls were made for fighting. american bulldog were made for work...

 

Answer by Smosley38
Submitted on 4/19/2005
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American Bulldogs are Bulldogs. American Pit bull Terriers are Terriers. Both are beautiful dogs. But both are different. Each website you go to will give you different history. Mr. Johnson and Mr. Scott did not change the name of these dogs because pit bulls were getting a bad wrap.  Just like when we mix breed Poodles and Labs. We get a different look. That doesn't make Labs the same as poodles. American Bulldogs are great with kids. Pits can be as well. Just always no matter the breed watch them around your children. Same as people. You only know them as well as they want you to.

 

Answer by PITBULL GURL
Submitted on 4/24/2005
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HEY YOU STUPIDS I OWN 24 PITTS AND IVE EASLY BREED AND TRAINED EVERY SINGLE 1 THEY  CAN BE LOVING,LOYAL,AND PERFECT FAMILY DOGS.MY BOYFRIEND BOUGHT ME MY FIRST  PITT AND BEACUSE I TREATED IT WHIT  LOVE AND CARE IT IS MY BEST FRIEND IN THE WORLD.AND ALL YALL HATERS NEED TO GIT THE HELL OUT OF DIS SIGHT.AND I TOTALY AGREE WIT 'IKNOWPITBULLS'. AND IDE REALLY LIKE TO MEET YA. IM FREE HOLLA AT ME SOMETIME. LOV YA

 

Answer by hannah
Submitted on 4/25/2005
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American bull terriers are a cross between a bull mastiff and a pitbull, simple!

 

Answer by amber hines
Submitted on 5/4/2005
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Pitbulls are great with kids cause i have been around them all my life

 

Answer by FIRELINXS
Submitted on 5/6/2005
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the AB and the APBT are not the same dog but do come from the english bulldog blood line, thus they have simular features, also when choosing dont let some breeder tell you he or she has a ASTBT becuase it doesnt exsist it is just a nice way of saying APBT,and that the truth.

 

Answer by desi badboy
Submitted on 5/18/2005
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i think that they look very different and the abd are more hard working and not as good as a pitbull in loyalty to its family.
i have i pitbull and its only eight months and it is not vicous at all except towards dogs.well i think that at the end of the
day they are used for different things and they cant be really judged against each other,my personal best i the pitbull.

 

Answer by MCHS
Submitted on 5/26/2005
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No, bulldogs can't lock-jaw like pitbulls.

 

Answer by terbeau
Submitted on 5/29/2005
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Just because American Bulldogs are often mistaken for pitbulls doesn't make them the same. My wife is often mistaken for Ernest Borgnine "in drag", but she can't act, and she's probally slightly hairier than he was. The difference in the two breeds is AGGRESSION. I'm so tired of hearing poorly educated pitbull fans trying to defend this breed. Like Dr Frankenstein, we created a monster and some just don't want to face the fact that we have to do like the good doctor and hunt our mistake down and eradicate it. I once owned two pitbulls, I raised them carefully and with love from puppies. Neither were able to overcome their INSTINCT TO KILL, bred into them in an era of ignorance and animal cruelty. Choose the American Bulldog, they are superior as pets and an asset rather than a liability.

 

Answer by SWAT
Submitted on 6/3/2005
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No there not the same because a pitbull is a pitbull and a bulldog is a bulldog

 

Answer by R.I
Submitted on 6/3/2005
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No there not the same because a pitbull is a pitbull and a bulldog is a bulldog.And i have had a bulldog and it's dead.So now i have two pitbulls!.And the are definatly not the same.When some one comes nere the gate there streat there barking. And some times people desight to come in and there atackt

 

Answer by kiminnc
Submitted on 6/10/2005
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I wish people would be careful about spreading misconceptions.  We had an American Bulldog (14 mos old - 70 lbs) never hurt anyone, was great with my 3 and 4 year old daughters.  Not so good with the cat but the cat could handle himself.  Anyway long story short someone in the neighborhood poisoned him and he died as a result.  They thought because of his size and the fact that we posted beware of dog signs etc that he was dangerous.  They thought he was a pitbull.  We found the individual who did it and he is facing charges but it does not bring Mojo back.  Both breeds have good points and bad, mostly does depend on how its raised but not all bad dogs are a result of their owners either.  I've had an akita that was unstable.  

 

Answer by Kayeann
Submitted on 6/13/2005
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I would choose a american bulldog over a pittbull but pittbull are only mean because there owners miss treat them.  I think you would be mean if you were miss treated.  So I would go with either breed.  They both are loyal dogs

 

Answer by capmor13_3
Submitted on 6/15/2005
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Until any of you have owned both the breeds you will never know that there are distinct differences..they are both great dogs it just depends what kind of dog your looking for but as for aggression toward children they are both wonderful and I would leave mine with either breed.

 

Answer by john
Submitted on 6/28/2005
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http://groups.msn.com/bulldogsenglishbullpittbull  any of u guys like to visit my site  id love some american bulldog owners on there  

 

Answer by bigbull
Submitted on 7/5/2005
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I own one of each, am bull and am pit.  both are great dogs and get along with each other and my children.  Am bulldogs are the same as Old English bulldogs not the English bulldog we know today.  They did have their time in the fighting pits too.  They were mainly used for farm work though.  They are not as dog aggressive as the pit, but neither are suppose to be people aggressive.  The pits that were used for pit fighting and showed signs of human aggression was destroyed.  The am pit is the exact same thing as the am staff.  Find a pedigree on a pit and follow it far enough back and you will see it cross.  The coal miners in the Staffordshire region of England created the Staffordshire Bull Terriers (by crossing the old English bulldog with the now extinct white fighting English terrier).  Then they were imported to American to create th Am staff and the APBT by crossing back to the American Bulldog.  It is said that the American pits 85% old English bulldog, or American bulldog.  YOU CAN NOT EXPECT A DOG TO BE SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVEN'T TRAINED IT TO BE.  If you more info find a good search engine and type in the breed that you want info for.  that is better than taking people's word for it when half of them don't know what they are talking about.

 

Answer by Fair Point
Submitted on 7/13/2005
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Are they good with kids?
well I've read many stories of how both these types of dogs have maimed and/or killed both children and adults. Compare that to say a poodle, or other smaller less fierce animals, then yes the risk of attack is higher, just look at the stats.
( has anyone here heard of anyone being mauled by a terrier for example? no, me neither ) Right so how many of us have heard of kids and adults being attacked by these dogs that we are discussing here on this thread? Exactly, so I think there's your answer! I'm sure 90% of these dogs have a great temperament, but do you really want to risk having an animal that falls within that 10% that may attack your baby? I guess that
answer depends on how important your kids are to you......

 

Answer by miki from serbia
Submitted on 7/16/2005
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sisak vi jebem celjav.

 

Answer by jayjay_canibus@yahoo.com
Submitted on 7/19/2005
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Myth: Pit bulls have locking jaws.
Fact: "Locking jaws" do not exist. No one has ever found a mechanism that enables a dog to lock its jaws. However, a pit bull's strength and determination can make it seem as though the dog's jaws have "locked".

 

Answer by Answer man
Submitted on 7/26/2005
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The AB is a working class cross-breed between the Bull Mastiff and the Olde English bulldog.  The Pit Bull Terrier is a completely different breed.  Pit Bulls are of the "terrier", class while AB's are from the "molosser" class.  They are both muscular dogs but AB's tend to be much larger.  While "the Truth" has a spelling error, he has got you all beat when it comes to accurate information.  


 

Answer by pattyatmomac@aol.com
Submitted on 8/10/2005
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I AM WORRIED I HAVE PURCHASED THE PICK OF THE LITTER, A GIRL ABD, AND WANTED TO BREED HER. SHE IS ONLY 5 MOS OLD AND WEIGHS 44LBS. SHE GOT THIS LITTLE BUMP ON HER SIDE THE SIZE OF A PENCIL ERASER AND IN A MONTH AND 1/2 IT GREW FAST AND IS THE SIZE OF A STACK OF 6 QUARTERS SO I TOOK HER TO THE VET AND THEY LIKE EVERY ONE ELSE WHO SEES HER, CALLS HER A PIT. THE VET SAID ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE HER FIXED? WELL HECK NO, THE POINT TO BUY HER WAS TO BREED HER. THE VET SAID I AM SURE SHE WILL BE A GOOD DOG BUT THIS IS NOT THE TYPE OF DOG YOU WANT TO MAKE MORE OF. I AM CONCERNED FOR MANY REASONS, ONE WHY SHE IS SO YOUNG AND HAS A LUMP OR TUMOR? WHICH WE ARE HAVING REMOVED AND TESTED TOMORROW 8/11/05, AND SECOND WHEN I SENT HER PAPERS IN TO REGISTER HER, THE NAME OF THE REGISTERY IS WORLD CLASS CANINE REGISTRY, IT LOOKED LIKE A PAPER I COULD HAVE MADE MY SELF ON THE COMPUTER, I WAS SURPRISED NOT TO GET A PEDIGREE PAPER TELLING ME ABOUT HER ANCESTRY LIKE THE AKC, SHOULD I BE WORRIED ABOUT THAT. ALSO WHEN I TELL HER TO DO SOMETHING SHE USUALLY OBEYS, BUT SOME TIMES SHE DIRECTLY DISOBEYS ME AND I HAVE TO TELL HER LIKE 3 OR 4 TIMES, IT IS ONLY WHEN I WANT HER TO COME OR GO TO BED THAT THIS HAPPENS, BUT WHAT IF SHE EVER TRIED TO BITE SOME ONE AND THEN DISOBEYED ME, WE ALL HAVE SEEN THE BAD NEWS ON T.V. THAT HAS ME VERY CONCERNED. I AM JUST HOPING IT IS BECAUSE SHE IS 5 MOS OR IS IT BECAUSE SHE IS A GIRL? IF ANY ONE CAN HELP ME TO FEEL BETTER ABOUT BUYING THIS ABD WHO EVERY ONE CALLS A PIT, OR JUST GIVE ME SOME ADVICE I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. I USED MY EMAIL ADDRESS FOR MY NICK NAME BECAUSE I WANTED SOME ONE TO GIVE ME AN ANSWER, SO ANY WILL BE APPRECIATED. I HAVE NOTICED THAT SOME OF YOU CHECK THE OTHER PEOPLES GRAMMER, EXCUSE MINE I AM SURE YOU WILL FIND MANY ERRORS.  SINCERELY PATTY                            MY DOGS NAME IS "BRIGHTEN"

 

Answer by we should stand united with our bullys
Submitted on 8/11/2005
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i own a bully breed she is smart loyal and a bundle of fun. she sleeps at the foot of my childs bed  each night, and she wakes her with kisses in the morning. and then she jumps on my oldest childs bed and wakes her in the same manner. i am sad to see bully owners fighting over which breed is best. the worst part is condemning each others breed do we not see enough of this with ignorant people who wish our dogs banned if not all killed. this whole web site is bully owners   bashing our own breed. do we not understand one bully breed in the eye of most people and gov. is one in the same when your dog is banned or killed whether a pit,boxer or american bull dog all  will have the same fate. i live in mi. all dogs who appear to look like a pit or american bulldog are killed the day they go to the pound no one cares which blood line they come from we have much larger fights to worry about than who's bully is better! i love my dog if you love yours start doing something about our real problems.

 

Answer by jd16
Submitted on 8/22/2005
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I have a pitbull mix I dont know what else she is but you can see she is more pit.
I know that she is the sweetest dog, very friendly & love kids, she is like a big kid herself she loves to play.
I also know that reading the answers I am more confussed then before reading them.(ps.what is up with the name calling there is no dum questions, that is how people learn, I thought that is the first thing that they tell you in school)

 

Answer by doglover2
Submitted on 8/24/2005
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I'm sorry if I offend any pitbull lovers out there but I once was a happy pit owner as well. Unfortunately, they are, by breed, aggressive towards other animals -especially those smaller in size than them. My Toby was the sweetest dog to my family, children, & other people. But I witnessed him literally GRAB a small terrier out of a 9 year old'sarms and kill him in front of the little boy & my little boy. I have never been so scared in my life. He then ran off with his "kill" and hid him in the woods. That was the end of our pit bull days. I would suggest not having any other animals if you do choose to own a pit bull. Unfortunately some animals ARE born with aggressive tendencies, regardless of how they are raised & treated.  

 

Answer by Mandie
Submitted on 8/27/2005
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I work at an animal hosptial and have worked with both breeds.  Both dogs are very loyal and everything to who trains and is the boss of the dog.  The american bulldog has more of a family instinct then a pit but only because thats what they were bred to do.  It also depends or your breeder and what you plan on doing with your dog. What ever breed you pick be sure that you dont just want it to be a "couch potato" bully breeds dont do well with that.  Weight pull or other activites are great for a bully breeds mind, they are working dogs and want to have a job. The only thing i can really think of that is differnt is the size, ABs are bigger boned so weigh more.  I would prefer an american bulldog over a pit only because i like bigger mushyer dogs.  And i just she a better personality with them (in my eyes).

 

Answer by The Brit
Submitted on 8/28/2005
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Wide mouth dogs were already in England when the Romans landed. Look at some of the paintings of English bull dogs from the 1500's it's clear were the 'American' Bulldog came from. It came from Britain. Bred by butchers in America, dear me it's hundreds of years older than that. You've just been looking after a British bred while we muffed it up by adding pug to make it useless and stumpy.        

 

Answer by jimmy
Submitted on 8/30/2005
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i have an american bulldog and they are kind of the same but the bulldog is a better working dog. these two breeds are really strong

 

Answer by UNKNOWN
Submitted on 9/3/2005
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ALSO ARE JOHNSON TYPE AMERICAN BULLDOGS BIGGER THEN ROTTWEILERS

 

Answer by JOJO
Submitted on 9/10/2005
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I DON'T KNOW ALOT ABOUT BOODLINES BUT, WE HAVE HAD OUR AMERICAN BULLDOG FOR A YEAR NOW,AND HE IS THE NICEST DOG WE HAVE EVER OWNED.HE PLAY BALL WITH THE KIDS LIKE HE'S A KID! BUT,HE HAS GROWN A LOT SENSE HE WAS A PUPPY.I HAVE THREE KIDS 15,13,11 AND I TRUST HIM LIKE HE'S ONE OF THE KIDS.

 

Answer by kristen_gsd
Submitted on 9/12/2005
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From what I know, some American Bulldogs go back to fighting lines.  I do not believe any of them were bred to attack people (other than NORMAL watch dog instincts), but were bred to fight wild hogs.  I have an American Bulldog, and so does my mother.  They are two totally different dogs from different lines.  They are not Pit Bulls, though, and there are GOOD Pit Bulls out there, but some are more prone to be agressive then others.  Chows are also known for their agressiveness.  If you are considering either breed, I would do a lot of research, and ask the breeder about the parents temperments.  Good Luck!

 

Answer by Cody
Submitted on 9/13/2005
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no an american bull is not the same as a APBT they are both pitbulls but differnt breeds and it doesnt matter the breeding or blood lines a pit bull is still a pitbull a good owner will never trust there pit bull unsupervised with other dogs

 

Answer by Chance
Submitted on 9/15/2005
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The American BullDog, this is my opinion based on the fact these dogs did not exist back in the 50s & 60s when I was in the American Pitbull Bussness.These dogs where renamed and bred for public exceptance and political correctness so breeders could stay in bussiness, they where reinvented and changed just like a car but the frame remains the same Yankee Terrier.

 

Answer by elloe
Submitted on 9/20/2005
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yes they are pretty similar i am a dog breeder and hav breed a few bulldogs and pitt balls in my time thnk u from me tt

 

Answer by BB
Submitted on 9/21/2005
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Ok keeping it simple.I dont know alot of the Ambull history but I could go for days about Pits. Pitbulls were originally bred in Europe. They were of a Bull and Terrier cross to create gameness for bull baiting and bear baiting. They were also used as a spectacle in the fighting ring for entertainment and a source of gambling. Now there has been debates of the true origin of the pitbull but for sure they ancestry lies in the mastiff and terrier area.  Pitbulls were brought to the US with there English and Irish owners. They were used mostly for fighting in the US because the economy was so poor so lower class people used it as a source of gambling and entertainment. The breed has truly evloved from when they first arrived. The only thing I know about Ambulls is that they were of English Bulldog and Pitbull mix. They were called the strong bull.

 

Answer by Amanda Fox
Submitted on 9/23/2005
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NO THEY ARE NOT PIT BULLS. A PIT BULL TERRIER!!!!!!! A BULLDOG!!!! IS DIFFERENT THAN A PIT BULL TERRIER!!!! I OWN TWO AND ALSO BREED MY AMERICAN BULLDOGS. I WOULD NEVER BREED THEM TO A PIT!!!!! PITS ARE AGGRESSIVE AND INTELLIGENT. AMERICAN BULLDOGS ARE THE OPPOSITE!!! THEY ARE NOT THE SAME AT ALL

 

Answer by Raybees
Submitted on 9/24/2005
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Because a dog is bred to fight, it doesnt mean it is going to be aggressive.  It means it will support the physical attributes that make it good for fighting ie strong and excitable.  HOWEVER! whether it is aggressive or not depends greatly on the parents and its upbringing.  for example if you breed two placid pits, more than likely 3 out of the 4 will lean towards placid mentality and be great family dog.  The reverse also applies.  So how likely a dog is going to be game or aggressive depends on its parents/predecessors.  You can breed gameness out or in just by doing the above process on any breed. Im sorry pits are not special - they are a dog just like any other with different phsyical attributes.  They are just as trustworthy as any other breed.

 

Answer by Bullyboy
Submitted on 9/25/2005
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I read all of theses different onions and facts presented and believe they all have addressed the inherent difference in the breeds and their ancestry. But I would like to pose another perspective to approach this situation. Bullies of any type AMPT or AB'sneed allot of attention and activity to be happy. You need an active lifestyle to accompany active breeds. I own an AMPT and 3 AB's NO MATTER WHAT BREED YOU CHOOSE CHOOSE YOUR BREEDER CAREFULLY!!! STAY AWAY FROM "GAME BREED" PIT BULLS. Of no fault of there own the were selectively breed for aggression and courage. INBREEDING AND ABUSE (improper training) ARE THE LEADING CONTRIBUTORS TO ANIMAL ATTACKS. Dalmatians were not bred for fighting and aggressive behavior but they were the leading breed for dog bites in the mid nineties, result of excessive breeding to meet the 101 Dalmatians craze. USE your judgment. Just like people animals have hereditary personality characteristics, aggression, shyness, courage, loyalty. A GOOD BREEDER BREEDS FOR THE BEST PHYSICAL AND PERSONAL TRAITS OF ANY BREED. Choose a breed that fits your lifestyle, they will be your best companions. Donít choose your dog breed on its looks or to be a status symbol. Teach your dog to respect your children and your children you respect your dog. GOOD LUCK!!

 

Answer by Chris Barker
Submitted on 10/3/2005
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I think that both breeds (Am. bulldog and APBT) are great breeds of dog. Most people have negative feelings about the APBT because of what they hear on the news or by word of mouth about the APBT, without actually owning one. Truth is, a dogs behavior is a reflection of the owner. I have owned over 30 APBT and they all had different temperment, they conformed to my expectations of them. Some were for guarding my property and some were for companionship. So it is all about how you raise the breed and not about how you judge them. All breeds of dogs bite, it is just that the APBT is more highly scrutinized for it.

 

Answer by SARA
Submitted on 10/3/2005
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you guys are all idiots and know nothing about either dog. losers

 

Answer by bowski69
Submitted on 10/6/2005
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zepplen stop talkin pant by the way ur mothers a man n she got bigga balls than ur father

 

Answer by BULLYGALL
Submitted on 10/11/2005
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IF YOUR LOOKING FOR A DOG THATS A GD DETERANT, LOYAL, LOVING , GR8 WITH KIDS BUT LESS OF A CHALLANGE TO HANDLE..(THO NOT ALWAYS A WALK IN THE PARK) IS FUN LOVING , SENCE O HOUMOUR(CANT SPELL THAT 1 , SORRY) THEN IF I WERE YOU AS A FIRST BULLY BREED ID GET YOURSELF A STAFFORDSHIRE BULL TERRIER OR AN ENGLISH BULL TERRIER...THE STAFFI IS THE "NANNY DOG" AND RECOMENDED BY THE KC AS THE ONLY DOG SOUND ENOUGH OF TEMPROMENT TO B TRULY TRUSTED AROUND CHILDREN... BTW , IMHO ... IT DEPENDS WHETHER THE LINE OF SED DOG IS FROM SHOW OR GAME LINES... IF YOU GO TO A SHOW BREEDER YOUL GET A DOG THATS SAFE AS HOUSES IF ITS HANDLED APROPRIATLY  

 

Answer by subz
Submitted on 10/15/2005
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Pitbulls have much more game that a bulldog so i rekon they are different in many ways in the way u look at it. i have pitbull his very agressive against plp and dogs and his only 7months old its the gameness that drives him

 

Answer by staffordshireman
Submitted on 10/17/2005
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NEITHER THE ABS OR THE APBT ARE BREEDS THEY ARE TYPES. THE RESULT OF SELECTIVE BREEDING AND CROSS BREEDING TO ACHIEVE A DESIRED RESULT IE A BIGGER STAFFORD OR A MORE ATHLETIC AND LEGGY BULLDOG.BEING BORN AND BRED IN BLACK COUNTRY PART OF STAFFORDSHIRE I HAVE SEEN EVEN THE ORIGINAL STAFFORD CHANGE FROM MY GRANDFATHERS DAY TO THE PRESENT AND THAT ONLY COVERS THE LAST 60 YEARS I HAVE BEEN A STAFFORD OWNER.
BUT DOES IT REALLY MATTER .ABS APBT STAFFORDS ARE A GREAT DOG TO BE PART OF AND
WHAT EVER YOU ASK OF THEM THEY WILL OBLIGE
BE IT IN THE PIT LIKE MY GRANDPA,AS WORKING DOG TO FOX AND BADGER LIKE MYSELF, OR AS A FRIEND AND COMPANION LIKE MY CHILDREN AND GRAND CHILDREN.  THE NEEDS OF THE OWNER HAVE CHANGED, THE APPEARANCE OF THE DOG HAS CHANGED BUT IN SIDE IT IS THE SAME DOG THAT WE ALL LOVE AND ADMIRE.KEEP BREEDING THEM.

 

Answer by disgusted with ignorance
Submitted on 10/17/2005
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i see alot of ppl on here talkin like u really kno tha difference but 1 quick question for u? do any of you actually own a part or ab? i really doubt it.i own both.put the two together and the differences are remarkable in height weight body structure and head shape. as far as temperment they both breed to be good with ppl and are incredibly intelligent and good with children.other animals are the problem.both dogs have extremely high prey drives which sometimes leads to problems.good website for you to look at are:
www.dogbreedinfo.com & www.bulldogbreeds.com
as far as history goes i dont have time for that and from wut i'veread here u ppl have no clu and really shouldnt b posting answers

 

Answer by Les
Submitted on 10/20/2005
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I am letting everyone know that the American Bulldog and the Pit bull are not the same in any way.  The Pit bull has a different shape to the nose and the American Bulldog has more of a Pug nose than the Pit.  I have owned each one of these dogs and I will never go back to owning a Pit.  I don't care what people say about the Pit making a good pet cause when you have kids you aren't going to want that Pit around and if you have other pets in your house the Pit isn't the wisest choice to make.  I had a Pit that was raised as a pup with another dog in the house and that was a mistake right there.  It is in the Pit's blood to fight not the Bulldog.  The bulldogs were taught how to herd the cattle in the farmers fields and the pits were taught how to fight in the pit rings.  The overall pet out of the bulldog and pit would be the bulldog.  There is nothing in the bulldog that looks like pit.  The bulldogs are more muscular than the pit.  If I could put a picture in here I would to show you the difference between the two.  I love my bulldog a lot.  She is a big baby but is also a good watch dog and wouldn't hurt a flea if she could find one.  She loves everyone she sees and barks to let you know when something is not right.  A pit would attack and wouldn't let go.  Ask me I know.  I was bit by a pit for no reason and I avoid them all together.  You don't have to do anything to be bit by a pit.  The dog wasn't even taught how to fight and he just did what he did.  

 

Answer by unknown
Submitted on 10/21/2005
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Damn, you all need to get a life and learn to pick up a history book. Stop acting like 5 year olds on the playground. No matter what, people are going to have there own opinions. The best thing to do is talk to an expert. Let's try to be adults! I hope you don't act this aggressive around your dogs...if you catch my drift.

 

Answer by unknown
Submitted on 10/21/2005
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FACT!!  Not Opinions!!

According to the American Temperament Test Society, the American Pit Bull Terrier has a passing rate of 83.2%, which is a better passing rate than Golden Retrievers and Collies.

In these tests, a dog is put through a series of confrontational situations. Any sign of panic or aggression leads to failure of the test. The achievement of the APBT's in this study disproves once and for all the old tired belief that pit bulls are inherently aggressive to people.

Like any breed of dog, a healthy pit bull that is properly raised will remain loving and friendly. In the past 20 years, we've seen some sad examples of poorly bred and badly treated dogs that are the byproducts of irresponsible 'backyard breeders' and cruel and abusive homes. These improperly raised, un-socialized creatures can show temperaments far removed from the traditional authentic APBT. Don't confuse these unfortunate misbreds with the huge majority of well-loved dogs in this country that remain solid in temperament, affectionate, trustworthy and friendly to their dying day

 

Answer by E3
Submitted on 10/31/2005
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Like was mentioned before. If you don't know what you're talking about or would like to, please read "The Working American Bulldog" by Dave Putnam. It should answer plenty of questions about the disparities between the AB and the Pitbull.

With breeding, you can select for whatever you want, and any informed breeder that pays attention to what he is breeding will have goals and incorporate blood with desired characteristics.

True, some Ab's are "game tested", some were put into rings with other dogs to test their mettle. Some AB'sare dog aggressive, but these very same dogs can and will die to protect a small child or family member. Same hold true for some pits.

As a general rule of thumb, one can reasonably expect a pitbull to be slightly more aggressive and less predictable in it's patterns of aggression. They are also generally more high strung dogs that are slightly less perceptive and less intelligent than AB's This rule is not absolute and there are exceptions to every rule, but in general these statements are true, like it or not.

I've owned both breeds, have numerous friends with both breeds, and currently own an AB.

Undisputable fact, pits were bred to fight and made more aggressive through the incorporation of terrier blood into bulldog lines. This happened quite some time ago! Genetic variation will allow for exceptions to this aggressive standard! Some idiots still try to raise pits to fight and some "ghetto" breeders select for aggression to make money in the ring. Unfortunately they sell their pups to the general public which often times are clueless idiots that have no clue on how to raise a dog and just want to feel tough by having a pit. These idiots ruin it for responsible and informed pit owners. They can be great dogs. They just need good owners that aren't idiots.

Also, let's not forget there were and are a number of breeders responsible for the proliferation of the AB other than Scott and Johnson! Lots of good people have worked hard to make the AB what it is today, and they are working to make it an even better dog.

 

Answer by ccl
Submitted on 11/8/2005
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The pitbull and american bulldog are actually a lot alike in my experience with them... i own 6 American pits and 3 american bulldogs..They both can be great dogs if u raise and train them right

 

Answer by suiloco
Submitted on 11/13/2005
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hey guys,

i apreciate all the answers that were given on this site.before i checked here,i didn't know much about my american bulldog.i got a female puppy a few weeks ago and actully came on here to see if anyone else thought it looked like a pit.mine sort of resembles one.its mainly white with one brindle ear and eye patch and has a pronounced lower jaw and drools(lol)!i have only noticed so far that it dosen't like to be seperated from us for very long.also it watches everything and loves our ferret and three cats.when we picked it up from the lady we got it from,she had several children and they got along with the dogs great.i personaly have been chased by pitbulls alot when i was a kid(it seemed to be the most popular dogs when i was younger),but on the other hand, i have several friends who have pits,and they are all nice unless you are agressive to their owners.anyway thanx for the info and again,ab's are a good choice for a pet.

bye

 

Answer by mae mae
Submitted on 11/22/2005
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I think that all animals should be treated the same!!!

 

Answer by sammy
Submitted on 11/24/2005
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it has come to me that my dad said both apbt and american bulldog came from bangladesh and there is a book called matta ca gu gu gaga on page 57 states all eveidence of this is provided please look it up to find the truth.  you all have no idea do u

 

Answer by Haides
Submitted on 11/25/2005
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Its funny that alot of you think there the same or its a shape of a dog.  Does that mean all small dogs are poodles.  No they r not the same and its people like you that give pitbulls a bad name because you think anything with a block shaped head is a pity but that could be a boxer cross with anything

 

Answer by ambz
Submitted on 11/26/2005
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naaa american bull dogs arent the same they are working breeds and pitbulls are vicious my american bulldog is only 3 months old and she is beautiful!!!

 

Answer by ARry
Submitted on 11/27/2005
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The American Bulldog is a direct descendent of the English bulldog!  In 1942, two men Johnson and Scott on arrival back to the United States from Europe where sad to see what the English had done to the breed.  Over the previous 350 years the English bulldog had almost been toyed.  With this as a concern the two man began collection the remaining bulldogs in the united states that were direct decedents of the English bulldog and selecting body characteristics that are considered desirable for the working breed.  The result is the breed now know and recognized by 6 of the 12 kennel clubs as American Bulldogs.  The American Bulldog is a separate breed from any considered pit bulls.  The dog is not dog aggressive and is used by fighting dog owners to train fighters as the American bulldog will defend but never attack and kill.  This results in the fighting dog being able to practice without fear of loosing the more aggressive fighting dog (note many people claim to own American bulldogs that are actually breed cross dogs and in no way related to the Johnson, Scott or painter/bully breed of American Bulldog).

 

Answer by Dee
Submitted on 11/29/2005
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In regards to how they are with children, all I can say is that when I brought my son home I was really nervous. Now a year later, I still take precautions, but I can say my son loves that dog just as much as the dog (Kurby, now almost 3)loves him. Since bringing my son home Kurby has become very protective of all of us in the house, and if he doesn't knnow ya, he's gonna git ya.

 

Answer by bulldog
Submitted on 12/6/2005
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ab  is the working breed bread for courage strength. pit bulls are cool dogs but are not to be trusted, as they were created for fighting

 

Answer by the smart one
Submitted on 12/15/2005
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American Bulldogs where breed to be working dogs, but then where used in bull biting and then yes dog fighting, American pitt bulls are a cross breeding of the American bulldog , the fighters wanted a faster more agil fighter, so the American bulldog almost became a dog of the past until Johnson and Scott started to breed to a standard

 

Answer by American Bulldog Owner
Submitted on 12/21/2005
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We have a 4 month old American Bulldog who is the sweetest dog we have ever owned.  She is a loving companion and enjoys lots of interaction with people and puppies at her puppy school.  There is no doubt that due to her potential size and intimadating appearance, she will need to be well trained and socialized.  So far she is the star pupil at her obedience class.  We actually were looking at getting a Pitty, but due to the new laws and regulations were we live we decided not to.  At that point we had never heard of the American Bulldog and it was just by chance while surfing the net that we found this breed.  They certainly look similar in many ways, but the American Bulldog is usually larger than the Pit Bull.  On occasion our new American Bulldog puppy has been mistaken for a Pit Bull and some rude people have even stated that we needed to have her muzzled all while there little lap dog was franticaly barking and Vegas was sitting by our side displaying no agressive behaviour.  She is such an affectionate dog and we are so happy we chose this breed.

 

Answer by Ralph
Submitted on 12/22/2005
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I always thougth that the american pitbull terriŽr was a bully type terriŽr originally bred to fight in the pit.
And that the american bulldog is a molosser bred to catch cattle like hogs and to serve as a guard dog.
But especially the standard types look very simular to pitbulls.
I also think that both can be great with kids when raised right.

 

Answer by Tuefel hunden kennels
Submitted on 12/22/2005
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first of all for concerns on whether or not the breeds are the same read American Bulldog Breeder posted on 5/20/04.

in regards to pitbulls being safe around children it's all dependent on the individual dog. they all have their own personalities and based on that plus how you raise the dog and what experiences it goes through will determine how it is with children. I have seen extremely vicious poodles (I know it sounds funny) but they can be just as hostile or aggressive as any pitbull the difference being they are not the smartest dogs and are generally weak. And on the same note I've seen pitbulls that are so sweet and affectionate you forget that they are pitbulls.

All dogs are pack animals, when you bring a dog into your home as a house pet and make it feel like one of the family thats how they will act, sometimes they will attempt to find out where they sit on the totem pole (typically between 3 and 12 months, at least thats what I'vewitnessed with my dog). it's the same thing as a teenager attempting to get loud with their parents to see how far they can go and where they truly stand.

you should always think about obedience training with any dog regardless of breed, which can start as early as 4 months old. This will give you peace of mind as well as save any furniture you might not want destroyed and it will allow you to build a respectful and loving relationship with your new pet that will last as long as they do.


peace.

 

Answer by Saint branard
Submitted on 12/22/2005
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Pittbulls are as cool as saint branards and the PittbullLowner is a stupid idiotic moron who is constapated and everyone who likes pittbulls are the same! And yes,I do hate you!

 

Answer by ???
Submitted on 12/22/2005
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PIttbullLowner and everybody who likes Pittbulls are Stupid. DIE!!!!!

 

Answer by ???
Submitted on 12/22/2005
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PIttbullLowner and everybody who likes Pittbulls are Stupid. DIE!!!!!

 

Answer by Yukon_Chime
Submitted on 12/24/2005
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I own a female American Bulldog and a Male American Staffordshire.  Both are very well behaved.  My male is more quiet and lazy where as my female is more a dog that aims to please and learn.  My male smiles at strangers that come into our driveway, they find him scary looking (he is really just smiling, he's a friendly giant) and our female is more shy towards strangers and barks.... both are very loyal to our family members, especially to our children (aged 11 & 6 years)  After owning these two dogs we will never go back to owning anything else.... I could never choose between the two breeds... they are so alike in loyalty but so different in personality, they are truly a pleasure to own and train.  We may one day breed the two and see what we get, it may turn out to be the "perfect" breed.

 

Answer by littlebit
Submitted on 1/21/2006
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I agree pittbull dogs do get a bad rap because,so many people like to fight them.I have a brindle pitt,he is very protective of everyone that lives in the home.I think it is cruel and inhuman to fight the dogs.I was weiry of having one ,but now I am glad I got him now.He is good with my children,they love him to death.Ithink if you are going to have a pitt do the right thing and give them a loving home.      

 

Answer by baby_girly_1
Submitted on 1/30/2006
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No there not the same people look at the american bulldogs and just asume that they are pitty's but I should no I have An American Bulldog he would never hurt a person but pit bulls are a whole diffrent type of dog so people ask these people what dog they have Thank you

 

Answer by Crenshaw
Submitted on 2/1/2006
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No they are not the same.  Close in some ways, not at all in others.  I own an american bulldog and he is the best dog in the world.  Of course I'm gonna say it but it's true nonetheless.  My friend owns a bluenose pitbull and says the samething and his dog is sweet too.  My dog can beat his up though.  

 

Answer by ABD RULE
Submitted on 2/4/2006
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Ive just bought and ABD and it is great. I am only 12 and my dad is normally at work so i have to take the dog out. My friend owns a APBT and tried to make them fight. As many of you are saying ABD are clever but powerful creatures. It didnt fight but later that day when i took it out the dogs fighted and my dog won. I dont think there same dogs. I love both of them though.(ABD more!)

 

Answer by J--Man
Submitted on 2/4/2006
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I do not think they're the same. Look at how the bulldog reacts to everything. The pits are to agressive. The bulldog are a lot bigger.

 

Answer by jeff
Submitted on 2/6/2006
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AMPT and AMBD all the bully breeds are used in the sporting bull baiting. AMB are alot bigger and stronger. AMPT are faster and stronger the real AMPT was only 20-30 pounds then every one mixed them to make them bigger.Usally white ones where mixed with the AMBD.But most where mixed with mastiff's. that goes for AMBD too they where mixed around to make bigger also.The real AMB weight 80-135 anything bigger or smaller is defently mixed.Even if u have papers.The way you can see the diffrence in each dog is AMD have a boxer shaped face just ALOT bigger heads. AMPT have more of a narrow nose. second way is AMBD have gator mouth always a little witch means there a drooler. AMBD back legs are higher then front legs. AMBD have more rinkle'sin there face.And a good way is AMBD have tails that start out large and get small at the end AMPT have just small tails.AMBD have pink skin. As tempermant both are dominant all bully breeds are even your little english bulldog.Pitbulls are usally more agressive becouse they arn't socializd with other dogs at young ages.AMBD are the same way if you keep them locked away from the world they'll turn on it when they meet it.Iv owned both dogs all is good if trained right.

 

Answer by BSL_HATER
Submitted on 2/8/2006
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The American Bulldog should not be excessively timid, shy or aggressive towards man and preferably not overly aggressive with other dogs. An American Bulldog should never be confused with uniquely different breeds such as the American Staffordshire Terrier or the American Pit Bull Terrier. The American Bulldog is a brave and determined, but not hostile dog. Alert and self-confident, this breed genuinely loves children. It is known for its acts of heroism towards its master. These dogs have fought wild dogs, bulls and even fire. It is said "fighting off one of these dogs is like fighting an animal that possesses an alligator's head and a python's body." Yet when called off by their handler, they immediately obey. No wonder they are said to have "true grit, true devotion and true love." Because of its strong protective instincts, the American Bulldog should be well-socialized and obedience trained at an early age. Some may be aggressive with other dogs and reserved with strangers. They need to be around people to be truly happy. This breed tends to drool and slobber.

 

Answer by The Beve
Submitted on 2/8/2006
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Am.Bulldogs can be a great work,guard and a fighter as can a AM.Pit Terrier.I've own both type of dog,their both strong in mind and body and I think that the dog learns from his owner and the way the dog reacts is the way the dog was raised.No a ole southern white Am. bulldog is not a Am.Pitt bull terrier,they both have bulldog in blood line but that all they have in common

 

Answer by kati
Submitted on 2/20/2006
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personally i think that any dog you own will be great with children as long as they are brought up in the right way. If you have a dog that has never been around children then expect them to be aggressive. as far as american bull dogs and pitbulls being the same i would say they both fall into the same catagory.

 

Answer by kati
Submitted on 2/20/2006
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personally i think that any dog you own will be great with children as long as they are brought up in the right way. If you have a dog that has never been around children then expect them to be aggressive. as far as american bull dogs and pitbulls being the same i would say they both fall into the same catagory.

 

Answer by Lesch
Submitted on 2/22/2006
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I just wanted to say that American Bulldogs and Pit bulls of any variety are very different dogs. I have owned both and personaly think there both great dogs, however there from completely different breeding stock. American Bulldogs are much like what a true English Bulldog once was. The were bred as "working" dogs. They drove cattle and assisted butchers & ranchers pin down there cattle. They were not bred as a "fighting dog" as was the American Staffordshire terrior. Both are great dogs, & will be great with the family.

 

Answer by lucas
Submitted on 2/26/2006
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i have an American 'pure Johnson' bulldog and she is brill, my friend has pit bull and they are pretty much alike but the bulldog is more working and pit-bull more fiesty

 

Answer by bob
Submitted on 2/27/2006
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no american bulldogs are not fighting dogs they are working dogs i own 3 of these breed and i have owned a pit for three years and they are NOT trustworthy

 

Answer by james rawson
Submitted on 3/21/2006
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american bulldogs are a nice breed but pitbulls are loyal and more protective
that is agood thing because if some one
comes to stab you you can unmusule a pitbull
but put the lead left on maybe an exstendid lead.

 

Answer by butler
Submitted on 4/4/2006
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I've just got a Am bulldog/old thyme English.....does anyone know what it will turn out like, 9 wks old,its white with tan patches over both eyes and ears with black nose not stumpy...just bought this for my daughter but after reading this just wanted to know if she will be safe!!!OH THE MOTHER WAS VERY BIG AM BULLDOG ALL WHITE VERY STOCKY(OR COULD OF BEEN A PIT) THE FATHER VERY WRINKLY BULLDOG..

 

Answer by American Bulldgs 4ever
Submitted on 4/7/2006
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O.K. Well lets start with Their are some REALLY Good answers out their but the truth is: APBT is a cross american bulldog/pitt, Also American bulldogs ARE mastiff's not terriers! But their are people out their that are uneducated about dogs and mistake the look of breeds BUT! the truth is a dog is as well behaved as you the owner make them, so enjoy your dogs [NO matter what breed they are}and Teach others don't judge them!!!

 

Answer by Sniker
Submitted on 4/13/2006
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i believe that pitbulls are the right dog for a family i own a pitbull and he is the best rember it is how you treat them not their breed

 

Answer by Boston,  American Bull owner...
Submitted on 4/15/2006
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A lot of good answer here, as well as not so good answers! I have owned a few pits & growing up in South Boston in the early 80's MOST pits were breed for fighting purposes. I just bought my first A.B. from the John.D.Johnson. Kennels & have found a lot of similar traits between the two breeds. From what I have witnessed, there are a lot of same qualities between the two & to be & in my eyes the Am-Bull is almost a larger breed of pit, LOOKS WISE, and looks wise only!
For instance, I trust my Am-Bull with my children when I am not around, 4 year boy & 8 year girl and they can't even walk this monster by themselves yet, he is 10 months old & a 105lbs, would not leave them alone with either of the pits I owned. The most important statement I have seen above, and I have done a lot of research on this Am-Bull breed as my wife was concerned about the pit bull look he had and the bad rep the pits has got over the years from idiots breeding them to kill / destroy. So, before I went and paid $1500 for an A.B. I read a lot of books, but the most important statement is that a dog is what you bring him up to be, that was probably the smartest statement I heard!
PLAIN AND SIMPLE. My A.B. will pretty much stomp & hold down any person or dog that comes near my children / family that he doesn't no, or that is aggressive towards him or the family. On the other hand My pit attacked almost any other dog as pits are breed to tear and shred as that is what there jaws are made for, unlike the Am Bull that is a cache & hold dog. The fact is that there are similarities & there are differences but you need to be careful as dogs of any breed can get out of hand & do damage to children, and children is all I care about as if your an adult, you should know better.

 

Answer by BJK112
Submitted on 4/20/2006
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I have just saved a 1.5 year old Pit Bull puppy (Beowulf) and truthfully know one knows that he is a pure bred pit bull. I am from Chicago but i attend school in southern IL and there is NO pit bull bias in southern IL so i can tell everyone he is a pitt bull and they love him all the same. I bring the puppy home to chicago people give me looks and are not friendly with me or the dog when i explaine he is a pit bull but he is very kind an loveing and would not hurt anything. Well all in all when i am in chicago i just tell people he is an American Bulldog and even my Chicago vet thinks he is an American bulldog and everyone thinks he is the great, loyal, well behaived dog.

 

Answer by Cutter
Submitted on 4/20/2006
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I have an AB and he is the joy of my life. Everyday when I arrive home from work the neibors kids come knocking on the door to ask if he can come play. He(Zeus)loves kids, other dogs and life. I grew up with many different breeds in my lifetime and I find each have a distigished personality regardless of the breed. I live in Ontario, Canada and am discusted with the APBT ban I find it Racist. Just thought I'd give you my two sense.

 

Answer by Callinessayons
Submitted on 4/21/2006
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I breed American Bulldogs. Scott and Johnson both lines. The American Bulldog have nothing to do with the Pit's. I have own the pitbull and made very good dogs out of them. But would not own nothing but a AMERICAN BULLDOG NOW. Pitbulls have a bad rap that it true. But They are not bred from the American bulldog. And the bulldog is bot bred from the Pit. Learn your breed and back and pedigree before speaking about something you do not know.

 

Answer by stop tagging pitbulls
Submitted on 4/24/2006
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Answer the truth were do you get off tagging pits as killers they are great dogs and brill with kids its because of people like you narrow minded idiot that make others dislike this most brilliant bred and i should know i have and always have had 2 pit bulls.At the moment i have 2 males and they are great,any dog can attack both either:dogs or humans.My sister at the age of 3 years was attacked by a lab and my mate's mongrel killed a westie! Stop slagging the breed off when clearly it is about the dog itself any dog that has teeth can bite.By the way pit bulls and bull dogs have something the same other wise they would not have bull in their titles.

 

Answer by latinamami
Submitted on 4/25/2006
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I own both an American Bulldog and a Pitbull.. Both have the same personality. I also have read Many Many books about the American Bulldog. No one really knows what breeds they originated from. Some beloved they came from the pit, others believe they came from other breeds.. Either or, it all depends on how you raise them. (and that goes for any breed.) Both of mine LOVE children, adults, and other animals. Both like playing with cats too. ALL dogs can be aggressive when needs be.  Then again so can humans. People want to punish the breed instead of the people who are making them aggressive on purpose. I love both breeds. They are loyal and great companions!

 

Answer by ARNOLD
Submitted on 4/25/2006
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i think American bulldogs are the same because i have in American Bulldog and he looks like a pitbull and people tell me its a pitbull

 

Answer by Storm
Submitted on 4/26/2006
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The Ambd breeder had the best explanation, the are not the same breed. If johnson and scott bred different animals to the lines, the foundation remained the same. The  pit does have a bad reputation, and has been abused by inhumnae owners over the years. I have seen some very kind pits nad some aggresive ones also. I made sure I socialized by ambd early. I would not want an agressive 130lb dog, it is like a loaded gun. The only suggestion I would make for the majority of the responses is to, do your research before you give an answer you really do not understand. A liitle knowledge can be a dangerous thing, and so can an agressive dog in the wrong hands.

 

Answer by Bad Muda Fuca
Submitted on 4/28/2006
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This Message is to Maverick, Hey Buddy You're an Idiot Give it up Pendejo.

 

Answer by Young C
Submitted on 5/4/2006
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Naw they aint the same.Yeah the may be related but that don't mean nothin. APBT were bred to fight an AB were bred as working dogs and gaurd dogs

 

Answer by Kym
Submitted on 5/8/2006
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I have a pitty and honest to god he is afraid of a jack russel terrior. my dog is the biggest suck in the whole world i live with a lady that has 4 younger children and they love him couldnt trade im for anything in the world

 

Answer by fred
Submitted on 5/16/2006
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shut up who cares there both great dogs

 

Answer by andyt  cat owner
Submitted on 5/20/2006
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The American Bulldog was resurrected from bull dog type farm dogs in the south. There are 2 types. The Johnsons are the more robust type and the Scott which is more like the traditional southern farm dogs. They are generally a little taller than pit bulls and their muzzle is a little more bulldog like. They are supposed to be very good watch and guard dogs. And yes they like children if you marinate them first.

 

Answer by Jason
Submitted on 5/23/2006
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Pit Bulls (American Staffordshire Terriers and Pit Bull Terriers) were breed as a fighting dog while an American Bulldog was much like a herding dog that had the responsibility to protect the flock.  Farmers used them to ward off predators, both animal and human, from their herds.  When raised responsibly, an American Bulldog will be a great companion and they love to be around children.  When abused they become human and dog aggressive, but so can any dog.  It is true that American Bulldogs were used in the early days for spectacle, matched up against bears and other large animals, but the species that was preserved was that with working ancestry, not fighting.  With small children they should be monitored, but you should do that if you own any dog, especially a large one, even a lab.  It is a part of responsible parenting as well as being a responsible dog owner.
American Bulldogs naturally want to do nothing more than please their owner and serve a purpose.  My American Bulldog, like so many others, excelled at obedience training because of those traits.  One will always be a member of my family, and the day a law is passed that prohibits that, is they day I move to a different city, or county, or state, and if I must, country.  Ignorance isn't an excuse for intolerance.  If you read or hear a story about a dog mauling someone somewhere once a week people want them banned and killed.  I hear every night on the news about someone killing someone else, or mauling someone else, and genocide isn't an answer.

 

Answer by hmmmm
Submitted on 5/23/2006
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I have never seen so much illiteracy in my life.  Some answers show true ignorance, some answers show promise, and some answers just show that if a dog is a product of its environment, we don't want to meet that dog.  With that said, the breeds are most definitely different.  My Boston Terrier has probably more in common with my American Bulldog than an American Pit Bull Terrier (or at least as much as).  All dogs have the potential to be great dogs, and all dogs have the potential to be horrible dogs.  It doesn't matter how many books you read and how much breed education it has, it comes down to responsible ownership.  "Maverick" and "I know Pit bulls" prove that even though you read books and claim to be an expert, you can still be an idiot.  

 

Answer by Pohetikut
Submitted on 5/25/2006
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The AB and the APBT are both seperate breeds. Yes, they do share an ancestral link in the old english bulldog(now extinct) but are completely seperate breeds. Some of the old English bulldogs were crossed with the extinct white English terrier, which created the the bull terrier type dogs. some of these dogs were developed in the stafordshire region in england and fought in pits. Some of these 'staffredshire bull terriers' were brought to america later, and crossed back to the american bulldog to create both the APBT and the American staffordshire terrier. Both the APBT and the American staffy have the same ancestry, just have been bred for different reasons(eg. fighting and show) and have become seperate breeds.......The american bulldog on the other hand, has no terrier blood. The old english bulldog came to america with early colonist, and these dogs developed into today's AB. Today's pure dogs have no mastiff blood either, atleast not from the last few hundred years....
the old english bulldog is an ancestor of many breed. crossed with the white english terrier-pitbulls, staffs
x mastiff- bullmastiff
x bullenbieser - boxer
x pug - todays english bulldog
all seperate breeds ofcourse

 

Answer by mone
Submitted on 5/28/2006
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oi mi days  american bulldogs murk pits.pits cant fyt man.

 

Answer by bulldog lover
Submitted on 6/11/2006
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i have a 6 month old pitbull and a 5 month old american bulldog the bulldog is more alert to any sudden noises and alot more aggressive when it comes to people calling to my door but the pitbull  is moe relaxed and only gets aggressive  when challenged

 

Answer by AREY
Submitted on 6/13/2006
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WHY DONT SOME OF YOU ACTUALLY DO SOME RESEARCH BEFORE YOU START WRITING! THE ORIGINAL BLOOD LINE IS POSSIBLY THOUSANDS OF YEARS OLD. THERE ARE REFERENCES AS FAR BACK AS 1154 WHEN THE BLOOD LINE WAS SENT TO THE U.S.A LATE 1600 FOR CATCHING RAZOR-BACK BORE FOR TEXAN RANCH OWNERS. AROUND THIS TIME WAS A SECOND REASON TO BREED THIS BLOOD LINE CALLED 'PIT FIGHTING'. THIS IS WHERE THE AMERICAN 'PIT BULL' BLOOD LINE WAS CREATED AND THE ORIGINAL BLOOD LINE SPLIT.  EACH LINE BRED FOR THE REASONS IT WAS INTENDED FOR, PITBULL = AGRESSIVENESS/FIGHTING.....BUT THE ORIGINAL BLOOD LINE WAS INTENDED FOR A HIGH ENDURANCE WORKING DOG CAPABLE OF HANDLING AND PROTECTING LARGE STOCK. SLOWLY THE NEED FOR SUCH A POWERFUL WORKING DOG BECAME LESS AND LESS AND SO DID THE ORIGINAL BLOOD LINE. BY THE LATE 1960'S THERE WERE LESS THAN YOU CAN COUNT ON ONE HAND. AROUND 1969-70 A MAN RETURNING HOME FROM VIETNAM REMEMBERED THE BLOOD LINE FROM WHEN HE WAS A CHILD SO HE GOT HOLD OF WHAT LITTLE AMOUNT OF THE ORIGINAL BLOOD LINE HE COULD AND STARTED TO REBUILD IT, CREATING THE FIRST JOHNSON. THIS IS WHERE THE MODERN AMERICAN BULLDOG WE KNOW TODAY HAS COME FROM - IT'S NOT 100% ORIGINAL BLOOD LINE BUT IT IS 100% AMERICAN BULLDOG. SAYING PIT BULLS ARE THE SAME BREED IS LIKE SAYING HUMANS AND MONKEYS ARE THE SAME.

NOW, WHERE'S MY BANANA GONE?

 

Answer by ReBecky
Submitted on 6/20/2006
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Actually some of you are very correct. The Pit bull like many other dogs we know are direct decendants to the American bulldog, also known as the Olde English bulldog, These dogs were selectively chosen and bred to create many breeds including which is the British bulldog, Olde english bred with a pug, and the Boxer, olde english bred with the German mastiff. So I personally believe American Bulls are a wiser chose for family and work pets due to the clean blood lines and amazing dedicated temperment. One could argue a Pitty also displays those traits, but of corse they do they were past down through there forefathers the American Bulldog!!!

 

Answer by T-Larsen
Submitted on 6/25/2006
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My one year old American Bull Dog is wonderful around children in fact she is the type of dog that will follow you home during a paper rout.
My belif is any dog can attack someone by the way they are raised.

 

Answer by chris
Submitted on 7/24/2006
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just do some reserch before opening your mouth thats all i ask. ab has no terrier in them at all but some people did breed the ab with the pitbull for a more lean ,faster dog

 

Answer by golden retrievers
Submitted on 7/31/2006
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golden retrievers are the best dogs in the world

 

Answer by on the real
Submitted on 8/14/2006
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first mastiff is one of the original breeds which alot!!! of breeds came from. second real ampbt'sare the only breed ever bred specifically not to have human aggresion. u must remember they like amstaff ambull or whatever with that catagory are very determined smart loyal and loving. these aren't nesseccarly the easiest trained dogs unless u are an experinced dog person then they are the best. anyone getting a first dog should think twice they can be a handful. defferences ambulls are bigger a little more aggresive on average  make good guard dogs. amstaffs are just dogs with no real useful traits bred not that they are not good dogs. apbt (if not trained) don't make good guards naturally they are too friendly but do more normally tend to be dog aggresive. apbt'stend to be faster on there feet quick thinkers and very precise the real question is how to pick a dog if u must have one don't get the pup wondering around by himself or the one that is timid or shy get one of the ones mingling in the pack.  

 

Answer by BUCKY
Submitted on 8/18/2006
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I JUST GOT A AMERICAN BULL DOG PUPPIE SHE IS 6 WEEKS OLD THE LADY I BOUGHT HER FROM TOLD ME SHE IS FOOL AMERICAN BULLDOG BUT EVER BODY TELLS ME SHE LOOKS LIKE A PIT BULL HOW CAN YOU TELL THEM A PART SHE IS ALL TANRED WHITE PAWS AND WHITE ON HER HEAD AND UNDER NECK CAN AMERICAN BULLDOGS BE ONE COLOR AND JUST HAVE A LITTLE WHITE

 

Answer by AM Bulldog Breeder
Submitted on 8/22/2006
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If you don't know anything about this subject why bother to try and answer, you just make yourselves look like idiots. AB's and pitbulls are completely different. All of you should read a book on the subject (The Working American Bulldog by Dave Putnam). Oh yeah and learn how to spell retards!

 

Answer by Jacinta
Submitted on 8/29/2006
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I would just like to say that there not the same. Completly differnt bloodlines. I have a 50% Johnson Bloodline American Bulldog and he's very sweet and mild tempered. Much better with children than the PIT BULL.

 

Answer by nolan
Submitted on 9/4/2006
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I have 4 APBT's and they love my kids and have never been aggressive towards them. My six year old has taken food out of their mouth on more than one occasion and they have never once acted aggressive towards her at all.

 

Answer by Felony's Mommy
Submitted on 9/8/2006
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I don't think they are the same, I love both breeds, and as long as you bring them up right, they both can be wonderful dogs. They both are bully breeds yes, however I have noticed AMBD are more stocky and have short noses, and pits seem to have longer noses and more slim, my AMBD female is 110 pounds with a huge block head, I haven't seen a pit that size usually ranging from 60 to 70 pounds. Who cares just love them dogs, and be sure to vote on this when the polls open up on restricting pitbulls from being bred, or even owned in certain counties. They need love too!

 

Answer by George Bush
Submitted on 9/10/2006
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Pitbulls should be banned in most places. Pitbulls owners tend to be the most ignorant when it comes to knowing about their own breed.

Tell the little innocent child playing in the street or the little old lady walking down the street that gets mauled to death by these dogs that they are great dogs.

 

Answer by Louie
Submitted on 9/11/2006
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Throughout Europe, Asia and North Africa Mastiffs have been used since the dawn of civilization to hunt large dangerous game such as wild boar, bears, tigers and other big cats. The natural prey of these ancient Mastiffs were animals that were more likely to stand their ground and fight then run away. Consequently the original Mastiffs did not develop as keen a nose as the scent hounds or as fleet a foot as the Greyhounds but they did develop tremendous strength, courage and fighting ability. The first strain of Mastiff to reach England was brought by Phoenician traders around 800 B.C. The Celtic tribes that occupied Britain before the time of Christ bred these brindle or brown Mastiffs to catch wild cattle and wild boar in the great black forests that covered their island. Some of these tribes considered the wild boar to be a magical animal and hunting these behemoths was a religious ritual for them. The Mastiffs that they bred to catch these animals were the world's first Bulldogs. When the Romans invaded England in 55 B.C. they were appalled to find that the Celts had developed a new military tactic: they had trained their Bulldogs to leap into the air and bite cavalry horses on the nose. This caused the horse to buck off its rider. The Romans called these Celtic Bulldogs by the Latin name Pugnace. They were brought back to Rome to fight in the Coliseum. Today there is a breed of working Bulldog still used by Italian farmers to catch livestock called the Cane Corso, which is a direct descendant of the Pugnace. Around 400 A.D. a second strain of very tough Mastiffs with white coats known as Alaunts found there way to England. The Alaunt was also developed by English butchers and farmers into Bulldogs. The defining characteristic between a Mastiff and a true Bulldog is that the latter has the so called lock jaw grip. Unlike any other breed of dog at that time a true working Bulldog had the ability to catch a large herbivore (such as a bull, horse or pig) on the nose, cheek or ear and hang on no matter how hard the big beast struggled. When the Bulldog's opponent submits he is either held immobile or the dog physically drags it backwards to the dog's master where it can be slaughtered or put into a holding pen. Today most breeds of guard dog such as European bred German Shepherds are also bred to have a 'Bulldog bite.' In the sport of Schutzhund you will see various German breeds hanging grimly onto the protective sleeves worn by the human decoys. A good Schutzhund dog will secure a single grip and retain it even though he is whirled around with all four feet off the ground or hit with a protection baton. Naturally the Bull breeds developed this kind of grip first so theoretically they should have the hardest and steadiest bite of any kind of dog. The old time working English Bulldog also developed the ability to 'throw' a large animal to the ground by rapidly cork screwing his body right when the big beast was off balance in the middle of a stride. This is not unlike what a human judo master does when he throws an opponent to the ground. The judo master uses timing, leverage and his opponent's own momentum to execute a throw. By using these techniques it is possible for a 120 pound judo master to easily hurl a 300 pound man around like a rag doll. In the same manner an 80 to 100 pound working Bulldog can topple an 1800 pound bull. No other kind of dog can do this. Today only an American Bulldog or a Pit Bull would be able to accomplish such a feat. Though the old time English Bulldog's main opponent was usually a bull, they were also bred in the middle ages to combat bears, lions and other ferocious carnivores. These staged fights were called 'baits' as in bull bait, badger bait, bear bait, etc. These gruesome baiting contests lasted into the 19th century. In 1835 all forms of dog baiting in England were made illegal. The breeding of pure English Bulldogs rapidly declined in the motherland. Many of the few remaining Bulldogs were shipped to America where they were absorbed into the large population of working English Bulldogs already in the former colonies. The rest were crossed with small scrappy terriers to create the Pit Bull Terrier also called the Staffordshire Bull Terrier. These dogs were used by coal miners in the Staffordshire region in dog fights, a sport which though technically made illegal in 1835 was actually tolerated by the British authorities well into the 20th century. In 1850 a man named Hinks got a hold of some early Staffordshire Bull Terriers and crossed them to a large pure white terrier called the White English Terrier. The resulting new breed is now called the English Bull Terrier. Some famous members of this breed include Spuds McKenzie and George Patton's Willie. In the beginning of the 19th century the rapid decline of pure English Bulldogs alarmed a group of nostalgic upper class Englishmen. The English Bulldog had long been a symbol of British courage, indeed a symbol of the very fiber of the country that defeated Napoleon and built the world's greatest empire. They wanted to save this national symbol but did not necessarily want to save the actual fire breathing, hard to handle, working Bulldog. They gathered the last few remaining Bulldogs and crossed them to the tiny short nosed Pug. They created a new breed of dog that was smaller, squatter, shorter nosed, less athletic and more tractable than the original working English Bulldog. This trend toward tiny Bulldogs reached its peak around mid century. Some of these dogs got as small as 12 pounds. These miniature Bulldogs were the foundation stock for today's Boston Terrier and the French Bulldog. The erect ears found on these diminutive Bulldogs were achieved through the introduction of terrier blood. The super small Bulldogs did not fill the bill for the people interested in preserving the symbol of British courage. They found a number of old time working Bulldogs in Spain and crossed them to the tiny Pug Bulldogs to get back some size and substance. The Spanish Bulldog of the time was actually descended from pure English stock brought to the Iberian peninsula originally by King Philip. These long legged Mediterranean Bulldogs weighed about 90 pounds and had muzzles about 2 1/2 inches long. The English preservationists were still bent on only creating a symbolic Bulldog not a working one so in their programs they selected dogs with the Pug's squatty stature and super short snout. Of course they did not advertise their creation as a new breed but simply continued to use the original name or a new nick name, the sour mug. They succeeded though in creating a wonderful pet and more importantly, a potent symbol that helped buoy the British spirits in the darkest hours of World War II. It seems more than just coincidence that Winston Churchill so closely resembled the sour mug. While the English Bulldog may no longer have the physical capacity to catch a bull or be a working guard dog, it still has the heart and soul of a true Bulldog. Fortunately the real working English Bulldog did not actually disappear from the face of the Earth. When the English colonized the new world they brought their Bulldogs with them. In the deep south the colonists also released Eurasian wild boars. They found that the only way to catch wild hogs in the remote back country of the south was with their Bulldogs. Regional varieties flourished from the Carolinas to Florida. They are still there and are known under a variety of names such as, Old English White, White English, Swamp Bulldog, Hill Bulldog, Backwoods Bulldog, Country Bulldog and dozens of others. The first record of an English Bulldog in America was in the early 16th century when one of these formidable canines saved his master from a twelve foot long cougar in the colony of Georgia near what is now Savannah. Starting in the 1930's a man named John D. Johnson of Summerville Georgia started gathering Old English Whites together into a breeding program to insure that they would never become extinct like their counterparts did in England. In the 1960's he was joined by Alan Scott, a farmer and breeder of Percheron draft horses from northern Alabama. Together they scoured remote swamps and mountains of the rural south and collected foundation stock of an ancient breed which was given a new name in 1984, the American Bulldog. While it is true that today's American Bulldog is a direct descendant of the Elizabethan era English Bulldog and is physically identical to its great great grandparents, they were never extensively used in baiting contests on this continent but were used instead as farm utility dogs and as watch dogs, consequently their temperaments have been mellowed over the centuries but their physical abilities have been retained. The American Bulldog can still be found catching wild boar in the south and the west. They are also rapidly gaining a role as trusted family guardians in suburbs all across the country. The majestic American Bulldog has also proven to be a real ham, starring in four full length motion pictures and dozens of commercials and advertisements. Almost any child can tell you about Chance, the star of the movie Homeward Bound. There are other breeds of working Bulldogs besides the American Bulldog. English colonists also brought old fashioned Bulldogs and Mastiffs to the Canary Islands off the coast of Spain. The Presa Canario is now finding its way off these islands and into the homes of working enthusiasts around the world. The Spanish Bulldog found its way into Spain's new world colonies and formed the basis for the Dogo Argentino, a breed still used to hunt wild boar and Puma in South America. Dogos very closely resemble tall thin Scott type American Bulldogs. The most common of all bull breeds originated in Germany, the Boxer. For many centuries the farmers and butchers of central Europe caught cattle with dogs they called Bullenbeissers (bull biters). They also hunted bears with a larger dog called the Bearenbeisser (bear biter). These Mastiff types were of the same stock as the Pugnaces and were also dark in color. In the late 19th century the Germans began crossing the lighter colored English Bulldogs into their Bullenbeissers and the result is today's Boxer. For over a hundred years the breeders of Boxers have been combating the white color that the English Bulldog genes introduced into their dogs. White is considered a disqualifying color in the show ring for the Boxer. Certain strains of Boxer certainly deserve the title of working Bulldog since they have successfully earned Schutzhund titles and have served as police and military dogs. The most direct descendant of the continental Bearenbeisser is the Dogue de Bordeaux, a large red Bullmastiff original found only in France but now making itself at home around the world. The constant interaction between coastal France and England over the centuries probably means that the Dogue has some British blood in it also. The English Bullmastiff looks exactly like a Dogue de Bordeaux but without the red coloring and has a slightly smaller head. This breed was created toward the end of the 19th century by crossing the last few functional working type Bulldogs left in England to the ponderous English Mastiff. They were originally used on large estates as guard dogs and deterrents against poachers. In fact, contests were often staged between men armed with clubs and muzzled Bullmastiffs. The men inevitably wound up on the short end of the stick in such contests. These early Bullmastiffs were called the Games keeper Night Dog and weighed about 90 pounds. Since then today's Bullmastiff (as well as the Dogue de Bordeaux) has had a lot more bulky Mastiff blood added so while they are not exactly working Bulldogs anymore they are still fine pets and OK home guardians. The final Bull breed which certainly qualifies as a hard core working Bulldog is the much maligned American Pit Bull Terrier. This dog differs substantially from the English Staffordshire Bull Terrier already mentioned. Shortly after the civil war English Staffs were brought to this country, they weighed about 28 pounds and looked very much like terriers with pointy noses, semi-erect ears and beady eyes. Very quickly an American version of the Staff emerged that was much larger, blockier and more Bulldoggy. There are two explanations: the English Staff was crossed to the American Bulldogs that were already here or the English Staff was systematically bred for Bulldog characteristics as soon as it hit these shores. In either case, today's American Pit Bull Terrier is very similar to a smaller version of the Elizabethan era English Bulldog, except his natural enemy is other dogs not bulls. American Bulldogs are often confused with Pit Bulls. The differences between these two types of Bulldogs are: 1) American Bulldogs have no terrier blood so they are larger, heavier boned and more stable. 2) American Bulldogs have not been extensively breed for dog fighting so they can be around other dogs and cats. 3) American Bulldog breeders have concentrated on producing a family guardian so ABs are more territorial and man aggressive than Pit Bulls.
Louis Battista

 

Answer by Realbulldog
Submitted on 9/11/2006
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Real Pit bulls are definitely not "mutts". They have been bred true and there pedigrees guarded and cherished by royalty for hundreds of years before "show" dogs even came into existence. They may have had very few crosses with the old English (now extinct) WHITE Terrier, but if you know anything at all about game dogs you would know that crossing a Pure Pit bulldog with anything (even a cur Pit bull) only dilutes the gameness as it is easily lost although it has been kept intact for hundreds of years.

American Bulldogs are bred off of the original working English bulldog that no longer exists, not the modern Pug/bulldog cross known as "Bulldog".

These working bulldogs survived on Plantations in the south mainly as guardians and used for hog hunting. Johnson and Scott did a lot to preserve many of these dogs for the foundation of the modern American Bulldog, but I personally have known the "real" hog dogs used for hunting feral hogs here in the south. These dogs have been crossed with the English bulldog by people who in my opinion were muddying up the gene pool (sorry Mr. Johnson) and they have at times been crossed with the Pit dogs as well, but they ARE NOT PIT BULLS! You cannot have too much pit bull dog aggression in a hunting dog because the dogs would rather fight each other than catch a hog.

The American Staffordshire Terrier is a relatively new breed. The original "Pete" of the little rascals "our gang" series (all six of them) was a game bred Pit bull. They didn't have "show Pits" in the 1940's. Pete and twenty or so other pits were selectively bred for looks rather than gameness and the AmStaff was born.

I used the full names of these different breeds in my post because so many here are making up abbreviations I could hardly figure out what breed they were trying to refer to.

The Amstaff'sare not to be confused with the Staffordshire bull Terrier either by the way.

I think the American Bulldog is the greatest because they have all the working ability of the Pit (unless you want the ultimate dog fighter) and although they can be dog aggressive, they are much easier to take in public around other dogs.

As far as the poster who wants to know which is better because she has kids and dogs in her neighborhood, PLEASE GET A LAB or something if you are going to be irresponsible and let your dog roam loose without supervision. I would say no dog, especially a bully breed should go to irresponsible owners.

Hope this helps

 

Answer by realbulldog
Submitted on 9/12/2006
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The Akita was bred "blue print" style to be a fighting dog - failed. The Boston terrier was bred to be a smaller fighting dog - failed. The BullMastiff was bred to be a large fighting dog - failed etc, etc,. I know all the "guard dog" stories etc, that are reputed to be the reason for the origin of these breeds; who wants to say their breed was bred to be a fighter, but failed? My point is: Yes the AB shares a common heritage as the Pit Bull but they are not fighting dogs...unless you prefer losing. I own both...love both. The fact is there is only one dog that reigns in the pit. Even when you breed game pits to game pits they usually will produce their share of curs. Some couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag and some could but don't care to so it is only logical that crossbreeding to ANYTHING but another game Pit Bull will NOT produce a fighting dog. Sure their offspring will have more heart and on rare occasions they may even be able to hold their own. The AB is NOT a Pit Bull - Never has been - never will be.

 

Answer by kathy j
Submitted on 9/15/2006
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any info on minn pins

 

Answer by Someone who really knows
Submitted on 9/15/2006
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So many answers.  Here is an answer by someone who has done more than research the internet on the question.  The game bred bulldog was never crossed with the terrier.  It is funny how many people think otherwise.  Any one who really know how ellusive the fighting ability is in a bulldogs would know that a truely great dog would never be crossed into anything less than the best, let alone a terrier.  Know to address the question.  I know for a fact that the American Bulldog comes from the game bred fighting dogs and was bred for catch work.  Thus losing some of the dog aggresive traits and gaining man fighting and hog catching traits through selective breeding.  I could prove all this but because of the nature of society I will not.  I don't care if everyone believes the lies because thats the way it has always been and it is not going to change.

 

Answer by greg farley
Submitted on 9/17/2006
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pitbulls are a different breed of dog to american bulldog

american bulldogs where bred to work and to keep alive the oldschool bulldog blood there is the scott type of american bulldog which is where the pitbull style comes in

 

Answer by rob-one
Submitted on 10/6/2006
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I dont care what people say, i have seen Pit Bulls raised with utmost care and love, and i have seen those same dogs attack other dogs and nearly attack people.  American Bulldogs do not have the same aggressiveness but have the same foreboding demeanor.

 

Answer by Joy
Submitted on 10/16/2006
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The vet called mine an American Bulldog everyone else calls him a Pitbull, as for our family, we call him our PETbull.  He is smart, loyal and so much fun.  He is a 96 lb. gentle giant.

 

Answer by Juice
Submitted on 10/17/2006
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The Truth is correct! I myself have a 3 mos old AB and my brothers have pitbulls.  There is a clear difference with the breeds look.  Boxing enthusiast would understand this.  It's like the difference between a light welterweight(PBT) and a super middleweight (AB).  Pitbull - Bulldog & Terrier /American Bulldog -Bulldog & Mastiff! Case-closed!

 

Answer by THE ONE AND ONLY''LASHES''
Submitted on 10/19/2006
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my answer would be that they shouldn't talk if they don't know every thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Answer by Elle
Submitted on 10/27/2006
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I find it very frustrating to go to a site to try to gain some information and find a bunch of people acting juvenile and calling names instead of giving the information that is needed.  Guess I won't be here again.

 

Answer by warneke tx
Submitted on 10/31/2006
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I have bred and owned both, depends on what blood lines they have. am.staff is a American pit-bull / Staffordshire bull
Staffordshire bull, American bulldog are both supposed to be a full breed.
American pit-bull is American bulldog/staff.bull  this is my understanding of the breed. you all can go back and forth lets be professional and give people a understanding of bullbreeds properly, a game bred dog is more likely not a good idea for children look for a docile breed bulldog. dont buy from a guy who breeds his dogs to fight, hog or hunt

 

Answer by TaTToO
Submitted on 11/13/2006
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I have both breeds and i have to say the only thing that makes them different is the size. i also have two kids and i trust both dogs around them. the American same time seems like a bad at times cuz of his body. they can knock the kids over once in while. the pit can seen like a bad at times cause of endurance. but besides those factors they are great dogs. but it also does come down to the owner on both breeds. each dog is bully breed you must never let your dog think that it is above the family.

 

Answer by Hockeyboy#2
Submitted on 11/13/2006
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well, i think the american bull dog is a better companion and i know my abd would never hurt any one that was not planing to hurt or brake into our house and i know for a fact that all pitbulls were breaded for companionship but people had to train poorly and now pitbulls have a bad rap but if i had to choose between the two i would choose the AMD because i allready own one and i want to get another

 

Answer by ken
Submitted on 11/14/2006
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to answer the question pitbulls r just bull terrier & am. bulldog mixes

 

Answer by Jake
Submitted on 11/14/2006
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They are def. not the same. The pittbull is def. more aggresive but the bulldog is bigger and is still pretty aggresive. If raised the right way both can be great dogs and are very loyal to their owner. I love both dogs and just got a dog that is half american pitbull and half american bulldog.

 

Answer by Teri
Submitted on 11/15/2006
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This is for Sarah.  An American Bulldog is NOT a type of Pit.  Its written people think that because of the physical appearance.

 

Answer by moco loco
Submitted on 11/17/2006
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hey there, i am thinking of getting a dog its a mix of AB and pit bull 5 weeks old. but my problem or i don't know if it would be one is because i have a 2 year old daughter and she is pretty rough with animals. i would like to know if thats a good idea? thanks

 

Answer by pit bull fan/owner
Submitted on 12/2/2006
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White trash kennels, maybe you didn't comment on them with kids because you dont know the truth. Pits are great with kids I have 2 and she is so tolerent I have no problem leaving her alone with them. You should do some research on the topic and maybe then you can comment.

 

Answer by Katie
Submitted on 12/3/2006
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American bull dogs are the best to have around children....  I've owned an abuse American bulldog for about 6 months and he fits ight into the family...  And he loves the attention.  When my parents first found him he was a dump job.  He hadn't eaten in i would say weeks and you could tell he had been fought in a dog fight b/c of all his scars.  But now he is a perfectly happy and healthy dog.  Everyone in the family was scared he might turn on us but he never did the only bad thing he does is takes the bed and couch so now he has his own room and he sleeps with a pillow and blanket like a man he snores an burps like one too. but if you ask me Pitbulls and American bulldogs are both great dogs it's just how they get treated that affects them.  They are just like children.

 

Answer by AB/APBTconcerns
Submitted on 12/9/2006
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We have a new next door neighbor with a young AB, or so they claim.  Since we're going to have to learn to get along, any advise on what we can do to endear the dog to myself, wife and kids.  It might be a bad idea to just stay clear.  Should we engage in social contact.  ANy advise appreciated.

 

Answer by gin
Submitted on 12/14/2006
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All pitbulls have american bulldog in them, but not all american bulldogs have pitbull in them.
ABs are cousins to the mastiff, they have a mastiff personality, they are family oriented and stranger aggressive. pit bulls usually love everyone, except the dog down the street. basicly a pitbull is a performer. wether you want him to rip some animal to shreds or dance in circles, he'll do it for you because he is bred to perform SOME kind of task. ABs are the same but to a lesser degree.... he must retain his mastiff dignity after all....

 

Answer by yo
Submitted on 12/19/2006
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threr not the same it is as simple as that

 

Answer by dikatry
Submitted on 12/29/2006
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Ok, none of the "bully" breeds really had breed names that were official until the early 1920s.  That is why it took the AKC so long to recognize any of them.  Someone finally decided  to create a consistent blood line and named them American Pit Bull Terriers.  For a long time that was the only bully breed that was recognized.  The rest were considered peasants dogs and still are today by the aristocratic AKC.  After WWII, Mr. Johnson came back and noticed that all the huge bulldogs he grew up with on the farms down south were disappearing. This was mostly because people were only looking to breed the smaller American Pit Bull Terriers because thatís all the AKC recognized.  So Mr. Johnson went all around the south and rounded up as many huge working bulldogs as he could; and eventually the American Bulldog was born.  The reason many people consider American Bulldogs as the closest thing to the original catching and fighting dogs of Europe is because they are the closest in size and workability.  It is also important to note that the AKC has a tendency to ruin breeds.  The German Sheppard and Collie are good examples.  The AKC takes the workability, genetic quality, and intelligence out of a dog.  All they care about is appearance.  The American
Staffordshire Terrier, Boxer, English and French Bulldog, Bull Terrier, Bullmastiff, and several other bully breed have been members of the bully family have been in the AKC for a long time.  LOOK AT HOW GENETICALLY UNSTABLE THESE BREEDS ARE.  The American Bulldog has been bred almost exclusively as a working dog since its inception.  Working dogs are inherently smarter, more loyal, and healthier.  It is also important to note that some people call Pit Bulls a "type" of dog, rather than a breed because of irresponsible breeding and ownership.  Breeders and owners who just wanted any good fighting dog or mean looking dog would breed them and call them a pit bull.  There are many pit bull breeders out there who try to maintain consistent blood lines.  On a further note, Pit Bulls have been consistently 60 to 70 lbs smaller than American Bulldogs in the past.  It was not until the early 90s when Land O Giants kennels came around and started breed huge pit bulls that the "pit bull" we know today started to grow in size. Land O Giants kennels have always had controversy around them and have been accused many times of breeding with mastiffs and American Bulldogs.  So in short, yes they are different and yes American Bulldogs are a real breed that have had regulated blood lines for over 60 years.  Remember, the AKC has recognized breeds that have existed for less than 5 years.  The Boston Terrier is a prime example.  Also, I grew up with American Bulldogs my whole life and so did my younger brother and my children.  We have never ever had a problem.  They are great with kids.  My brother used to ride our and pull on their ears and hit them with whiffle ball bats.  All the bulldogs ever wanted to do was love us.

 

Answer by joe
Submitted on 1/5/2007
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ive got americain bulldog crosss pit bull hes not like a full pit bull terrier attal he dossent bite but my mum wants to get rid of him

 

Answer by lee from scotland
Submitted on 1/8/2007
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ive got o stafforshire cross bulldog lot of people say he looks like a pit but they just dont even no what a pit looks like why people give them a bad name when its the owners fault for bringing the dog up the wrong way  

 

Answer by martin
Submitted on 1/20/2007
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American bulldogs may have a little bit of a resemblance to pit bull but they are nothing alike. Am bulldogs are workers. Pit bulls are bred on the sole fact to fight.

 

Answer by Becky
Submitted on 1/27/2007
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I have an American Bulldog puppy and a Golden Retriever.  They are best friends!  They get along GREAT.  I also have two boys.  Ages 2 1/2 and 4 months.  My toddler plays with the AB and she is very gentle and tolerant of his roughness.  She does not listen too well when I call for her, though.  I am assuming that is her puppy side shining through!  She has a great temperment.

 

Answer by i have both
Submitted on 2/2/2007
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I own both pitbulls and American bulldogs...the way i see it is, they could pass for each others breed, they look and act like each other, they are both trust worthy, and loyal....however, the bulldogs seem to be more clumsy...and not as good with little kids because they tend to knock them over...  I believe that if anyone tells you that a pitbull is a fighting dog, they have obviously never owned one..... how a dog behaves is a direct result of how you raise them...i also own a poodle that was abused before i got him, he would be more likely to bite some one than either the pitbull or american bulldog... Also, the two bred together make beautiful dogs.

 

Answer by didigogo
Submitted on 2/10/2007
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i just want to say that i have a 9 1/2 year old, female, spayed greyhound who my dog sitter was walking on a leash on my street (public property).  she was attacked without provocation by a neighbor's intact male American bulldog.  apparently, the dog ran out the front door of the house and attacked her on the street.  the dog's owner is not forthcoming about paying all of my dog's vet bills that have resulted from the unprovoked attack. do you think that this is the owner's fault, or the result of an innert tendency toward aggression of the American bulldog breed?  i would like to have the dog deemed "dangerous" by our local animal control office, but it seems that i need to really push for this, because it is the dog's first attack.  what if it had been a child or a dog breed such as a Yorkie (the dog would have been killed).  i must say that this whole incident has left me less than positive about the American bulldog as a breed.  please write to me to advise me about this matter jraines3@bellsouth.net

 

Answer by didigogo
Submitted on 2/10/2007
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i just want to say that i have a 9 1/2 year old, female, spayed greyhound who my dog sitter was walking on a leash on my street (public property).  she was attacked without provocation by a neighbor's intact male American bulldog.  apparently, the dog ran out the front door of the house and attacked her on the street.  the dog's owner is not forthcoming about paying all of my dog's vet bills that have resulted from the unprovoked attack. do you think that this is the owner's fault, or the result of an innate tendency toward aggression of the American bulldog breed?  i would like to have the dog deemed "dangerous" by our local animal control office, but it seems that i need to really push for this, because it is the dog's first attack.  what if it had been a child or a dog breed such as a Yorkie (the dog would have been killed).  i must say that this whole incident has left me less than positive about the American bulldog as a breed.  please write to me to advise me about this matter jraines3@bellsouth.net

 

Answer by dogman
Submitted on 2/18/2007
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A lot of interesting discussion.
Honestly, and without being defensive, which breed, American Bulldog or American Pit Bull/Staffordshire Terrier (close enough) would be better for a family, neighborhood with kids, etc.

 

Answer by SW
Submitted on 2/20/2007
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I recently got a american bulldog, boston terrier mix for birthday.  Because the bulldog was mixed with a type of terrier does that mean he is a type of pit bull terrier?

 

Answer by Former Pit owner and dog trainer
Submitted on 2/23/2007
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American Bulldog Breeder was mostly right.

The APBT is a distinct breed. It can be terribly dangerous like any large breed because they have the muscle to do a lot of damage. I have owned and handled quite a few.

The only ones who ever proved to be dangerous were bred by fools who thought that they had the right to breed without any knowledge. They bred dogs that "looked good" without recognizing the problems their dogs had. Then these dogs were given to whoever would pay the most.

My dog protected me and my girlfriend without causing any serious injury (she bit and held). The guy she bit tried to hit my girlfriend and the only injury was holes. She didn't even tear the skin. No stitches were needed because she knew her bite and the minute I said stop she released him and heeled beside me watching this guy the whole time. The police were impressed and the situation was contained.

You must train your dog. Any and all dogs can bite and if the dog is big enough or the victim is weak enough, the dog could kill. I don't care if it is a poodle, APBT, Lab or Golden they all have bitten and some have killed.

No dog is "trustworthy" or 100% safe. If you want to own an animal you must be prepared to ensure the safety of the public by training and leashing your dog.

BTW my pitbull was bitten by a German short haired point in a vicious attack and tried running away to me. She didn't bite once until she was beside me and the dog turned and bit me. She then bit once and held the dog until I ordered a release once the owner had his dog on leash.

 

Answer by snicker
Submitted on 2/28/2007
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i think that your write

 

Answer by doglover
Submitted on 3/2/2007
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i have a ab and she is the best thing in the world...i also had a black lab and no mater what people say i do not think pits or abs are dangrus..my ab is the sweetist thing she sleeps with me she will do andy thing for me never hert a fly...but my balck lab was more aggresov then my ab..son what dos that tell u any dog can be mean...i have met meaner poodels the pits or abs put to gethere...oo any my spelling sorry about that..

 

Answer by Concerned Citizen
Submitted on 3/7/2007
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Wow some people are just retarded, sad state of affairs really.

They are all Bull breeds and here is some info:

http://www.bulldogbreeds.com/bullbreeds.html

Google is a great tool ;)

 

Answer by katelyn
Submitted on 3/15/2007
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I think that all the breeds with bull in the name should be dead all they are used 4 is fighting and exploding it makes me sick

 

Answer by mello
Submitted on 3/19/2007
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a american bulldog has a wide head and jaws a pit is more muscaler and shorter than an american pitbull terrier

 

Answer by brandigirl
Submitted on 4/9/2007
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Well lets see where do I start. First off never trust any dog with any child. I dont care how loyal that dog is. I dont care if it is a pomeranian, collie or a pit bull. All dogs will hurt someone if they have any type of fear for themselves. A child not aware of what might scare a dog may at one point become too friendly and this my cause a dog to jump and do what he does as instinct and that is protect itself and the owner. A simple hand gesture may cause the dog fear. I own an American bulldog and she is the best dog I have ever owned. I also own a lab/jack russell terrier mix and at one point in time I owned a pomeranian, golden retriever and a rottweiler. I have to say the pomeranian was more aggressive than any of my other dogs. When it comes to ABD or the APBT no they are not the same dog and yes they do come from some of the same bloodlines. But the ABD doesnt even have what people thing they have in them if you want more info you would have to get the rare book called A KENNEL CLUB BOOK American Bulldog a special limited edition by Abe Fishman. Many think that they come somewhere from England and that they are  from a pure english bulldog stock and they are not. In fact they have bloodlines from dogs you would never think of. None of which even have any similarity to the American Bulldog. And yes they were on the verge of extinction until the early 1980's when  Joe Painter of Chicago and Alan Scott of Alabama, and John Johnson of Georgia decided to bring back this beautiful breed. A new breed but very similar. But if you want more info get this book. Try Ebay.

 

Answer by cadermae8261
Submitted on 4/12/2007
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I just recently got a puppy, he is supposed to be 1/2 American Bulldog and 1/2 Pitt Bull. I would like to know some sites to go to, to see if he actually is what they said he is. I do see the pitt very prominently, but I want to see if he actually is part bulldog. If anybody could give me some help that would be really great.

 

Answer by katie
Submitted on 4/26/2007
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YES THEY ARE THE SAME

 

Answer by sd
Submitted on 5/2/2007
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are pitbulls same as a rottweiler

 

Answer by ameng bull
Submitted on 5/3/2007
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i need a half breed bull dog english bull  and pit or am bull or boxer must see boxer mix  look more eng bull short bow leggs pup female

 

Answer by emjanethomas
Submitted on 5/6/2007
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As i can see from this site everybody has different opinions, i can only speak from expirience. I have an american bull dog cross staff, which we have been told in the past he is a pitt bull type. Well he is as daft as a brush, great with kids and loves other dogs. The only complaint i have with this dog is he is chewing my furniture and doesn't seem to be growing up in his ways. He has such a loving nature, and i think all the bad rep with pitt bulls is down to the owners up-bringing, they should banned from keeping animals. These dogs are bright and loving and i would deffinatly recommend this breed.

 

Answer by ME
Submitted on 5/11/2007
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YOU GUYS ARE TO MUCH I BET THE DEATH DOG IS GOOD SHE DID NOT HEAR YOU WHEN YOU WERE YELLING DID SHE  SO WHAT DO YOU DO ABOUT BURGLERS OH SHES GOT TALENT TAKE HER TO THE ANIMAL SHOW

 

Answer by Worried mummy
Submitted on 5/21/2007
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Myself and my husband have homed a 2 yr old american bulldog, only three days ago! Shes beautiful and so far seems to have a brilliant temprement! She was originally brought for showing and breeding, she won her previous owner a few rosettes but would not mate with there AB Dog so they gave her up! We have all her papers and records. She has not been ill treated in anyway and since being with us has been on best behaviour my only worry is i have a 16 month old son, she seems to have taken to him a little to much, each time they are in a room together my AB is all over my little boy trying to lick him from head to toe! Is this normal and will the novelty of the little one wear off! Does anyone think that this affectionate behaviour could turn to a threat any advice will be welcomed thank you all xx

 

Answer by ky
Submitted on 5/30/2007
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Then why did one attack some kids in Nipomo, California?  I don't trust them.

 

Answer by Dino1
Submitted on 5/31/2007
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What a load of nonsense. The American Bulldog is an amalgmation of pibull, english bulldog, mastiff, boxer, and in some strains hound. They breed true and are a good catch dog. They are fine dogs. The American Pitbull Terrier is probably the closest thing to the original now extinct old bulldog of ancient times. They are a cross between the now extinct original bulldog (which the American Bulldog is supposed to be but is NOT) and game terriers. Anyone who believes that the American Bulldog is some form of ancient bulldog is believing dealer hype.

 

Answer by chris
Submitted on 6/3/2007
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They are not the same. The American Pitbull Terrier is a breed. The key word being Terrier. There is no Terrier blood anywhere in the breeding pasts of the American Bulldog. The ancestral genotypes for the AB are the Old English Bulldogge and Mastiff breeds. The Ancestral Genotypes for the APT are the English Staffordshir Terrier and the Bull Terrier. Contrary to popular belief, the bull in pitbull does not come from bulldog. it comes from bull terrier. Once again..THERE IS NOT AND NEVER HAS BEEN ANY TERRIER BLOODLINES IN THE AMERICAN BULLDOG

 

Answer by ant
Submitted on 6/5/2007
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I have heard american bulldogs and pitbulls are like 2nd cousins. As for small children. I have a american bulldog, a boxer, a pitbull and a 14 month old baby. (I bet no one breaks in my house lol) The pit has been around my daughter since birth the other two were added in later. They are great around her. If they could change diapers and make a bottle I would have the perfect babysitter. My daughter has pulled ears, tails, poked eyes  and all the dogs just sit there or walk away if they are not in the mood.

 

Answer by MoneyBoy-more southern than you
Submitted on 6/9/2007
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Now CH this is the second time I've found you in these forums talking down on Amstaffs. I already know it's pointless to try and defend them so how bout this. You get your American pitbull Terriers and I'll get my Amstaffs and we'll see which ones are more "game"

 

Answer by lillybell
Submitted on 6/19/2007
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I have an American Bulldog, Solid White, Blue Eyes, She does resemble the pit bull, she is very loving and already loyal at t he early age of 13 weeks. However I have been told that bull dog breeds that are solid white and have blue eyes are prone to be deaf. Lilly is deaf and we are teaching her American sign Language. Has anyone else run upon this problem?

 

Answer by damler
Submitted on 7/8/2007
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no because pit bulls where bread by the American goverment and where genetically enhanced maybe not genetically but they r enhanced even i no this and I'm only 15

 

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