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what breed is most commonly used to fight?

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Question by BlueKane
Submitted on 2/21/2004
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what breed is most commonly used to fight?


Answer by Big Bone
Submitted on 2/25/2004
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HOW CARES!!! If that's why you own or are thinking about having a pit then buy a fish.

 

Answer by CH
Submitted on 4/17/2004
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The pit bull is most commonly used for fighting.  Simply because it is the best dog for the job.  I'm not advocating dog fights, but simple logic tells you that if you are going to fight a dog you should choose the dog which has been bred for fighting.

 

Answer by Cris
Submitted on 4/26/2004
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It depends entirely upon location here in the U.S. of course it is the pit bull.  In Japan it's the Tosa Inu and in the middle east it's the bully Kutta.  There are tons of breeds used for fighting  but As CH said it is going to be most common to see breeds that were specifically bred for this purpose.  

 

Answer by zeeks owner
Submitted on 5/26/2004
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no the best fiting dog in the world is the caucasian ovcharka and i have 1. it has killed and destoroyed many pits. even the gamest pits. it has also killed rotts and shepards.

 

Answer by Lil' T
Submitted on 5/27/2004
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I would say if your talking about fighting pits the best blood line is Jeep, Assassin, or Jocko.

 

Answer by macker
Submitted on 5/29/2004
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just let itgo zeeks owner your retarded and nobody is gonna believe that an overgrow collie is that tough. i read up on it and it seems very protective but thats it.

 

Answer by unknown
Submitted on 6/6/2004
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Listen, I'm going to make this as simple as I can. This is just how it is and there's nothing you can do about it.

(All dogs are ranked as if they were GAME BRED)
If the dogs are not game bred then the fights outcome can be unpredictable.

Dogs that can fight...

First Class
- APBT
- Tosa Inu

Dogs that have little or no chance of beating the first class...

Second Class
- Dogo Argentino
- American Bandogge
- English Bull Terrier
- American Staffordshire Terrier
- American Bulldog
- Presa Canario
- Bully Kutta
- Fila Brasileiro

Dogs that have little or no chance of beating the second class...

Third Class
- Caucasian Ovtcharka
- Neapolitan Mastiff
- Spanish Bulldog
- Cane Corso
- Mallorquin Bulldog (Ca De Bou)
- Gul Dong
- Dogue De Bordeaux
- Guatemalan Bull Terrier
- Indian Bull Terrier
- Staffordshire Bull Terrier

And finally dogs that have no chance or little of beating the third class but can still hold their own...

The fourth class
- German Shepherd
- Doberman
- Rottweiler
- Shar Pei
- Alaskan Malamute
- Bullmastiff
- Wolf Hybrids
- Chow Chow (yes, even the Chow Chow)
- Most of the ovtcharkas
- A few shepherds.
- Akita Inu
- Thai Ridgeback
- Tibetan Mastiff, (and almost every other of mastiff origin that I didn't name, including the Boerboel and others)

The Fourth Class can go on forever. It mainly consists of your most common, popular breeds that you think so highly of

Believe it or not, when it comes down to, pound for pound that's just how it is!

 

Answer by Roastcha
Submitted on 6/9/2004
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The most common is the pit in American and Tosa in Japan. Dont listen to unknown cuz hes just a kid playing on the computer acting like he really knows about all these dogs and how they fight. A few good but rare ones are the alano espanola, Shar pei, Akita.

 

Answer by khan
Submitted on 6/10/2004
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Cris is right. and i'd like to add that pitbulls are commonly used in the US cuz theyre cheaper to buy. it costs five times as much to buy a bull terrier. and theyre both just as good. and anyone who says they are'nt , does'nt know jack about fighting dogs!...lol

 

Answer by sid
Submitted on 6/17/2004
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All the people on this message board have never seen a bully kutta fight, they have only ever seen the pitts and tosas.  So how can they comment.

 

Answer by marc
Submitted on 6/19/2004
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it depends on the country,but i think that in general,its the american pitbull terrier that is most commonly used because its cheap,and gives one hell of a fight

 

Answer by shamrock
Submitted on 6/19/2004
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I think the best is the APBT(pitbull)but tosa inu and bully kutta are a top breed fhighters, all depends the rules to fight, but Y preferd the pete pitbull.

 

Answer by khan
Submitted on 6/28/2004
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i've seen hundreds of bully dog fights. kutta means dog btw. lol..so just stop with the bully kutta thing. it sound so stupid!..lol

some bullys can fight any dog , but bull and terrier dogs should still be able to beat em.

 

Answer by macker
Submitted on 6/30/2004
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SHARPEI!!!!!!!!!AKITA!!!!!!!!!!if you're gonna include these than you should also include an english bulldog cause their in the same situation. these breeds WERE used for fighting but havent for many many many years. Im guessing you are a child and don't know much.

 

Answer by actors
Submitted on 7/5/2004
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what about karelian beardog. its a very tuff
dog. the will fight any dog to the end.

 

Answer by greatest
Submitted on 7/6/2004
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look people it all depends how the dog is trained, because ive actually seen a bull mastiff beat a champion pitbull terrier in a fight.

if your looking for the ultimate fighting dog cross a american pitbull terrier with a champion english staffordshire terrier, trust me its the best you people ever see

 

Answer by Mike
Submitted on 7/9/2004
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How about a better cross... the APBT and the Irish staff. Like the APBT is to the Amstaff the Irish staff is to the staff bull terrier. Of course the staff came before the Irish staff. The Irish staff was strictly created from pure-GAME staffs. As for APBT and the Amstaff it's the other way around. First was the apbt then from it came a show version (almost no game) Amstaff.

 

Answer by greatest
Submitted on 7/9/2004
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Hello Mike

ive never seen a irish staff, are they a stronger and larger staff than the english staforshire terrier.
do you know any websites for the irish staff if so can you please tell me?

 

Answer by Mike
Submitted on 7/10/2004
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Yes, they're slightly larger then their english counterparts, the staffs. They're basicly the same dog, the same breed. They're like the Am staff  to the APBT just in vice versa. People took the most game staffs that they could find. They then selectively bred them to be slightly larger then their cusins (staffs). Thus creating the slightly larger all game staff which they called the Irish staff.

As for sites, I know of a few neat sites, molosserdogs.com, moloss.com,
dogbreedinfo.com/abc.html - doesnt have any info on the irish staff but check it out.

- Mike

 

Answer by jac
Submitted on 7/13/2004
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irish staffs are just taller staffs and where/are also used for hunting unlike the english staff they have not been ruined by showing and appearance breeding

 

Answer by mike
Submitted on 7/14/2004
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jow would youcompare and irish staff with an apbt in a fight?

 

Answer by jac
Submitted on 7/15/2004
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an irish staff would not be as strong but probably more agile and in general they are just as game so it would depend on the individual.

 

Answer by Mike
Submitted on 7/15/2004
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I'd say they're very similar. The Irish Staff is pretty much the father of the modern day APBT. The APBT inherited most of its gameness and pretty much everything else from it. The main difference is that the Irish Staff has remained unchanged for almost a century. Their popularity has only begun to increase in the past decade. They probably still do fight them just not as much and because of that their change can't be too drastic. As apart to its counterpart the apbt, which is being fought worldwide, its popularity is already overwhelmingly high and keeps growing. It can only get better that is for the PURE gamebred apbt. Show "apbt" sadly might just become another english bull dog, well not to that extent but you understand what I'm saying.

If the 2 were to fight the apbt would have the upper hand.

- Mike

 

Answer by Mike
Submitted on 7/15/2004
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I'd say they're very similar. The Irish Staff is pretty much the father of the modern day APBT. The APBT inherited most of its gameness and pretty much everything else from it.

The main difference is that the Irish Staff has remained unchanged for almost a century. Their popularity has only begun to increase in the past decade. They probably still do fight them just not as much and because of that, their change can't be too drastic.

As apart to its counterpart the APBT, which is being fought worldwide, its popularity is already overwhelmingly high and keeps growing. It can only get better that is for the PURE gamebred APBT. Show "APBT" sadly might just become another english bull dog, well not to that extent but you understand what I'm saying.

If the 2 were to fight the APBT would have the upper hand.

- Mike

 

Answer by jac
Submitted on 7/17/2004
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where i live irish staffs are common and often used to fight you dont seem to realise how alike the breeds are where i live pitbulls are banned  it is very easy to sneak one in and pass it off as a irish staff. you could not tell the difference between an isbt and apbt the isbt just looks like a fighting bred pitbull but inconsistontly smaller(they are not bred with guidlines)  

 

Answer by Scot
Submitted on 7/17/2004
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Mike I couldnt have said it better myself Im totally wit u on this one.
Jac mike said that the 2 dogs are very similar. ur jus repeating wat he said

 

Answer by jac
Submitted on 7/18/2004
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yeah but i dont agree that a pit wud have the upper hand thats like saying a pit from wer you liv cud beat one from wer i live and that is an insult

 

Answer by scot
Submitted on 7/18/2004
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who said it was fact it was just his opinion

 

Answer by diamong dawg
Submitted on 8/3/2004
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lol u people are making a fool,of urselves,alot of u never seen a bully kutta or seen it fight it is gladiator in the ring. bull terriers american pitts, tosas, are no match for these fearless gladiators

 

Answer by gamedogs.com
Submitted on 8/16/2004
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come on over to gamedogs.com and spread your fighting dog knowledge, I can direct you to Tosa sites as well that true dogmen frequent, cant wait to see that, you will get laughed off the board

 

Answer by Roastcha
Submitted on 8/20/2004
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Macker u need to shut up becuase the akita still is a decent fighting dog. Fighting is fighting period. The shapei has its wrinkles still even though it isnt widelt used anymore. They sharpei isnt a good fighting dog i would have to admit but the akita is a monster. It is definately a first class guard dog and a second class fighting dog. I aint gone diss you because I dont play childish games like that but the akita can fight. Anyone who has fought a Rottweiler or Bullmastiff hasnt met the Akita.

           AMERICAN STYLE

 

Answer by Dee-P
Submitted on 8/25/2004
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I think that a Presa Canarios would beat a pit hands down because of it's size and strength.  It is a in short a geneticly enhanced pit.

 

Answer by della
Submitted on 8/31/2004
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dont underestimate the staff bull terrier,yea some fight has been bred out but 1 in every 5 dogs is old school, a game bred staffy ( and believe me there are plenty in the west midlands area of England )will fight to the end ,an those jaws are very powerfull and i no many pits have been killed by these dogs,not those little ones u see walking on a lead(tho they can fight)but the big staffs who enjoy fighting,any way forget the talk about the best fighting dogs,its the bull breeds that are pound for pound pit champions ,and are the gamest breed .,pit english.staff bullterriers rule

 

Answer by matt
Submitted on 9/8/2004
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APBT or pitbull     of coarse

 

Answer by pit
Submitted on 9/14/2004
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A pitbull is the strongest and bater than any dog because there vicious at fiting

 

Answer by farge
Submitted on 10/6/2004
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ive never heard so much crap in my hole life how con you make a list of fighting dogs when most of them are not even fighters. if eneyones doberman mas had a apbt then that apbt was a crap one or not one at all    WHAT CRAP

 

Answer by texter
Submitted on 10/15/2004
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my irish staff is soppy as a bag of bollocks

 

Answer by zzzz
Submitted on 10/17/2004
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what would win a american pit bull terrior or a brindle bit pull

 

Answer by RopinGirl
Submitted on 10/30/2004
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Why in gods name would anybody want to sit and watch dogs kill each other anyway ? somewhere along the line that tells me some serious psychological evaluations need to be done on the human being.

 

Answer by UNKNOWN
Submitted on 11/2/2004
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TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS...THE APBT, AMSTAFFS, ENGLISH AND IRISH STAFFS ARE ALL "STRAINS" OF THE SAME BREED.  THERE ARE PLENTY THAT WOULD BEG TO DIFFER, BUT IF YOU DO YOUR HOMEWORK YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN.  AN APBT IN A TUXEDO (AMSTAFF) IS STILL THE SAME DOG...BUT HE AIN'T DOWN FOR A BARFIGHT ANYMORE!!

 

Answer by Storm
Submitted on 11/4/2004
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I have a cross breed of a Irish Staff mom X Douge De bordeaux dad, he is two years old weighs in at 9 stone. and can move faster/turn better than any ampt ive ever owned.

And his head size is amazing the same as a douge but pitty shaped.

 

Answer by pit eating akita
Submitted on 11/9/2004
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an american type Akita will give any breed a good run for its money. Their not in the gladiator dog book for a laugh.

 

Answer by Me
Submitted on 11/17/2004
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     I'm sick and tired of uneducated people making blind assertions that their dog is just as game as a pit.  Gameness isn't accidental, isn't just by chance, and contrary to what swarms of DUMBASSES say, CAN NOT BE TRAINED INTO A DOG! ANYONE WHO SAYS THAT A DOG'S FIGHTING ABILITY COMES FROM THE WAY IT IS TRAINED OBVIOUSLY HAS NEVER BEEN AROUND DOG-FIGHTING(or at the very least hasn't ever won)!  Gameness is BRED into a dog and without many generations of game-bred dogs to stand behind your dog, I and every other educated dogman will just have to conclude that your dog is not game, just agressive, which is something you CAN train into your dog.  There are many pit-bulls from game bred lines that because of careless breeding for only ONE OR TWO GENERATIONS, have lost the majority of their gameness.  The idea that a dog which wasn't bred for fighting could hold it's own with one that is, is the most ludacris and obsurd thing I have ever heard.  
     Oh, and to the guy that says a bull-terrier can hold it's own with a pit, I have to say malarky!  Not only aren't there game bred bull terriers but even way back when there were, they were replaced by pitbulls because the bull-terrier in most instances HAS TO RELEASE IT'S HOLD JUST IN ORDER TO BREATH DUE TO THE SHAPE OF THE SNOUT!
     And in response to zeeks owner, put up or shut up you lying s.o.b.
     And finally, to the person who said that people predominately fight pits instead of other dogs because they are cheap, hahaha!
I have a good friend who has spent $11,500 on a pit because of it's record and bloodline.  He is willing to spend this much money because he knows he can make it back on the dog.  He is always doing research on other breeds and says that if he ever comes across a dog that can whip one of his pits he will buy it and it doesn't matter how much it costs.  Yet, even though he has tried them out, he still wouldn't be caught dead with a ovcharka, tosa, bull terrier or any other kind of dog which apparently are better fighters but which we poverty stricken pit-bull lovers can't afford.  That's a laugh.  Anyone who thinks their dog can beat an $11,500 pit bull with 6 wins and never a turn, please put your money where your mouth is.  If you win, you win the money and then you get several grand for your dog.  How could you beat a deal like that?  I couldn't imagine fighting my dogs but I have plenty of friends, not just one, who would be more than happy to take your money.

 

Answer by anonimo
Submitted on 11/17/2004
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     Contrary to what Khan says, he is the one who doesn't know jack about fighting dogs.  A bull terrier can't even maintain it's hold and breath at the same time.  There is a reason that people switched from bull-terriers to pit-bulls over a hundred years ago, just like there are loads of good reasons why a mutt (meaning any dog other than a pit) isn't usually forced to fight a real dog.  The most important reason is that most dog fighters like to see a fair fight, not a one-sided masacre.

 

Answer by Savage Boy
Submitted on 11/20/2004
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I have a Jocko and Eli pitbull and he gives one hell of a fight any one out there with another jocko and eli crossed bred pit let me know post something

 

Answer by Mickey
Submitted on 12/15/2004
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Bully Kutta is the best fighting dogs by fare if you dont believe me check the sight.  American Pits are puney compared to kuttas. http://www.moloss.com/brd/ab/b017/impfacts.html

 

Answer by mike
Submitted on 12/15/2004
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ask any shutzand trainer they will tell you american buldogs

 

Answer by tex
Submitted on 12/19/2004
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to jac. my irish staff would do any dog from round your way mate.

 

Answer by Badboy
Submitted on 12/24/2004
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back home in Kashmir i'veseen bully'sfight and they are very tough! i reckon a bully and an american pit would have a very challenging fight

 

Answer by unkown peep
Submitted on 12/25/2004
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hi i own a small pitbull x staff it will fight any dog no matter what size and beat it but i say it is not wat breed of dog it is it depends on how it is trained and also the size of the dog because u couldnt put a 50 pound pitbull up against a 100 pound tosa inu and expect the pitbull to win there is just to much weight difference but pound 4 pound i think the best dog would have to be a well trained game bred pit

 

Answer by andrew
Submitted on 12/28/2004
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i want to now wich dog its best fighter bull terrier or pitbull

 

Answer by gurdeep
Submitted on 1/1/2005
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English bull terrier's are amazing fighting dogs. Unbelievably strong and they will fight an enemy to death.

 

Answer by K****t
Submitted on 1/4/2005
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FUK ALL OF U JUS SHUT THA HELL UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Answer by tim
Submitted on 1/14/2005
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What the hell is an Irish Staff, I bet its just a staffy bull terriers that were bred in ireland there is no irish staff in any dog book ive ever seen you DA.and the amstaff isn't a show pit they are the same damn thing if you do a little reading. You can show pitts in the UKC. Its just that some responsible people wanted to save the breed from looking like alls its good for is scrappin'. As for gameness it all comes down to training. If you look it up the only difference in amstaffs and pit is the standard in which you show them in. the ckc and akc amstaffs should be between 40-60lbs and 17-19 inches pits in the ukc have a wider range of 30-80lbs and 18-22 inches.

 

Answer by roko
Submitted on 1/16/2005
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i have seen a boxer beating some pittbulls trained for fight.that 's mean a lot of dogs can fight with pitbulls.but i agree the best are tosa and pitt

 

Answer by lucy
Submitted on 1/21/2005
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I think irish staffs are much better than english staffs, they'rbetter looking on the face and they have a more athletic looking phisique. I do agree that they look very much like an apbt but Im not saying that they'rbetter.

 

Answer by Someone
Submitted on 1/23/2005
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Unknown, clearly has his facts all wrong.

Rottweilers were also bred for fighting and are commonly used for fighting as well.

German Shepherds, Siberian Huskies, Dobermans, Rottweilers? All under his fourth class. These are all very very powerful dogs.

His list just doesn't make sense.

 

Answer by mikey b
Submitted on 1/25/2005
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an irish staff wud destroy  a pitbull anyday  u lot saying different dont no nothing
i have two pits one irish staff and ambulldog my irish staff has killed over twenty six pits each fight lasting no longer thantwo minutes i know my staff can destroy anydog so stop talking rubbish

 

Answer by matt
Submitted on 1/30/2005
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apbt,
butt dont be fighting your dogs!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Answer by Rudeboy
Submitted on 2/1/2005
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Tosa Inu, this is the all time gret fighting dog, if you put a tosa inu and a Pitbull in the ring, then the pitbull will go down.
And who sez Akitas cant fight, these dogs are the original fightin dogs. Even though they dont tend to be used these days, these dogs are born fighters and a decent akita could hold its own wiv any dog in the world.

 

Answer by dave
Submitted on 2/3/2005
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back to the orignal Q i think the anser is the bull and terrier type breed. if any one is fighting dogs profesialy( for money )they are not goeing to be worried about owning an iligal breed because it will be kept away from prying eyes.most dogs are trained in yards or on pryvate land any way. in the uk pit bulls are banned.but pit bulls are rappidly being breed forsize,for guard dogs  not for gamenes.the average weight of a fighting dog is around 45 55 pounds because a good breeder will keep a yard of dogs of as many as he can afford.and larger the dog the more it costs to run.litters of dogs are normaly kept till about 18 months to 2years till ther first roll.

 

Answer by lucho
Submitted on 2/5/2005
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i have read all the questions and answers,and most of them have a prespective and true meaning to it...i just want to say this; when it comes down to it the breed,non other then the pit bull...not only for their courage,gameness,and all of those things that makes an apbt unique from all the rest,i can say without no doubt,that the pit bulls,so often dislike,but mainly MIS-UNDERSTOOD,are a true reality,and a sweet one nevertheless!is and always will be the ultimate breed!!.and finally..who ever outhere owns a pit,cheerish it,enjoy it,dedicate time to your dog ,cuz at the end of the day,you will see the rewards,that the dog will bring you!!!!



 

Answer by jim
Submitted on 2/9/2005
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pits are excellent fighters but a chiwawa could beat a pit come on.

 

Answer by jim
Submitted on 2/9/2005
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pits are excellent fighters but a chow could beat a pit come on.

 

Answer by sim
Submitted on 2/9/2005
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Try crossing a pit bull with a tosa,no dog will beat that.lol

 

Answer by chief
Submitted on 2/28/2005
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there is no telling what dog is the best fighting dog. It all depends on how the dog is trained to fight and how it is treated.
And if someone wanted to find out what type of dog is the best fighting dog then they would have to get one of each kind of fighting dog and fight them.

Beside fighting dogs is wrong.

 

Answer by slick
Submitted on 3/2/2005
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I think that the best fighting dog would have to be the dog with the worst reputation. The American Pitbull.

 

Answer by J_I_N_K
Submitted on 3/3/2005
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look guys, sorry to burst anyones bubble, but it all depends on condition and size. Gamebred pit bulls, like the very original pitbulls, should be only about 35-40 lbs. The pits you see today that are in the 70's and 80's and even up to 115, were all cross bred somewhere down the line. As for fighting, i think it should be strictly be kept to controlled circumstances. young punk ass dudes think they know what they're doing and juts buy a pit and automatically think its born to fight, WRONG. pits need work, conditions, and most of all, and this goes for any dog thats going to be fought, they need to be placed in the pit to fight. a dog cant be good, unless it practices on the actual skill. now as far as what i said with conditon and size...put a 40 lb. pit in with a 200 lb mastiff. whos gonna win? the pit dude. why? simple, agaility, quickness, etc. trust me i know. i live in houston texas, just 30-35 miles south out in the country, pit fighting takes place all the damn time, and everything is controlled. people think they have big mean dogs...one guy brought a rott up there, the damn thing was overweight, something liek 180, he was up against a 37 pound pit...damn thing was solid...1:15 later, the rott's owner pulls his dog out, cause the pit gof in right in the neck...another case...85 lb pit, bred for looks and show, was put in with again a 35 lb GAME bred pit, who won? ding ding, the game bred pit.
pit bulls are probbaly the best for fighting...but alot goes into makeing them #1. if you get a game bred pit, which should range from 25-45 pounds, and you condition that dog, and put it in the ring with dogs on a weekly basis for practice, its gonna be a winnner. You can say what you want about mastiffs, and dogos, and bla bla bla, sure they can be aggressive, sure they're big, but ok? so what? they aint fast, they aint as quick, or as athletic as pits are.
as far as bull terriers, and am staffs, well they can be conditioned well enough and some might even be winners, but odds are againt them. I have a blue/black nose mix...shes a beautiful beast, right at 45 pounds, which i think is perfect, some dude down the street has an english mastiff, the damn thing at only 11 months is already like 215 pounds...u should see these 2 dogs wrestle, i think it would make clear to some of you guys the advantage small dogs have over big dogs. and trust me, my dog gets knocked down, and jumped on, but she gets right back up, and tackles that basterd  and shows him whos boss.
all-in-all, most fo you have no idea about fighting dogs, cause basically none have you ever witnessed or experience a REAL CONTROLLED pit fighting organization. and i doubt u ever will unless you come down to texas. to answer the dudes question, pits are the best at fighting, but thats if thet're game bred...besides that, just like that one dude said, its all up in the air, but depending on the dogs being pitted...the smaller more nimble dog has the advantage. to all of you that think u are cool, and think fighting ur dog is cool, it isnt, and ur not. unless u know what ur doing, and unless everything is in a controlled environment, than its just not right. 2 dogs fighting, is just like 2 men in a boxing ring, but if its not done properly, and professionally, you will end up with dogs being hurt, and urself probbaly arrested.
REMEMBER: REAL PIT FIGHTS dont go to the death. like i said, if u have ever been to a real controlled one, u would knwo what im talkin about. real pit fights are just like boxing matches...the dogs fight in a controlled environment, if a dog is notced to be losing, or in pain, or at a risk of being hurt, the fight will be stopped, and the winner will be to the obvious pit. most fights go until either of the owners pulls their dog, and this happens accordingly pertaining to their dogs condition and risk.

 

Answer by TAARIQ
Submitted on 3/3/2005
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I THINK SNOOTY CARVA IS YSED BECAUSE OF ITS HARD BITE

 

Answer by CORE
Submitted on 3/3/2005
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I AV A STAFF CROSS BULLMASTIFF WAT DOGS COULD TAKE THAT LOL

 

Answer by kraf
Submitted on 3/3/2005
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. Iknow this is a really old thread but no one seems to have mentioned the gull terr! Will rip any dog apart besides maybe a pitbull or a tosa. Cross a pit with a gull terr, and youll get the ultimate bandog! maybe the best ever fighter (someone should try it)

 

Answer by core
Submitted on 3/3/2005
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i av a staffy cross bullmastiff wat dog can take it and plus the staffy is and english one

 

Answer by slick
Submitted on 3/3/2005
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Zeeks owner, if u think that the Caucasian Ovcharka is the best fighting dog in the world, your crazy. Iv read information on the Caucasian Ovcharka. Caucasian Ovcharka are used for fighting but they are not the best fighting dog. I know some pitts and rotts that would kill some Caucasian Ovcharka.

 

Answer by Dixie dog
Submitted on 3/18/2005
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Everyone on this message board that thinks any other breed can compete with an APBT is obviously an unexperienced kid.  in closing the main reason people fight pits is because they have been bred to do so for over a century.

 

Answer by Bubby
Submitted on 4/26/2005
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If you want sure death to a Pit bull than try an Old English Mastiff out......the idiots here wont believe me but than they have never seen a
Mastiff fight.

 

Answer by mairsy
Submitted on 4/28/2005
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i have an english staffie and live in chester england,she is as game as they come and i am willing to put her up against any of your lots mutts,shes only 30 pounds fighting weight and i will match 5grand of any of your cash interested THEN TEL MOBILE 07940679679 I WILL EVEN LET YOUR DOG have TEN pounds weight on her

 

Answer by AFGHAN_SAVAGE
Submitted on 5/2/2005
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NO MATTER WHAT THE BEST FIGHTING DOG IS THE TOSA INU, ALTHOUGH NOT AS NICE LOOKING AS A PROPERLY BRED PIT WIT LYNCH CUT EARS A TOSA INU WILL GO POUND FOR POUND WITH ANY OTHER DOG THE ONLY DOG THE COULD POSSIBLY STAND A CHANCE WOULD BE THE BULLY KUTTA BECAUSE OF THEIR HIGH PAIN TOLERANCE I PERSONALY WOULD RATHER USE A TOSA AND KNOW MY DOG IS NOT GONNA COME AFTER ME AFTER LIKE A BULLY KUTTA WHICH TEND TO BE MAN AGRESSIVE IF NOT TRAINED RIGHT

 

Answer by dee
Submitted on 5/11/2005
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the bandogg is the ultimate fighting dog and most dangerous dog there is

 

Answer by D boy
Submitted on 5/29/2005
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Look im a lonzo line Apbt breeder and seen some amazing 1 to 2hour long fights between them.As far is who is the most used it is defently the apbt just look they are ch. and gr.ch. in almost all abts  pedigrees wich means they are defintly the most used ch.[champion] stands for a dog that won 3 contracted fights. gr.ch. means grand champion and that  means win 5 fights all these mean you did not loose ever.To hold one of these titles. people are very stupid irish staffs is a breed when crossing a apbt and game bred english staff  go to shaker kennells on the web and you will see .Now i fist started when in was young with a japan akita inu .This dog was a powerful and maybe even an exepion to the rule but he could wip on good pits and would kill them if  i let him keep woooping them my dog bit so hard  he would thow theses pits arond like nothin now you have to keep in mind in pit bull matches they ggo by exact weght and my akita out weighed these dogs every time so there it is...

 

Answer by Dr. Carl Semencic
Submitted on 6/12/2005
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Hello everyone.

I am a reknown dog expert and I have written many books such as "PitBulls and Tenacious Guard Dogs". You should check it out.

As for the best fighting breeds, the List is like this:

1. 60-70lbs PitBull or 130lbs Tosa Inu (TIE)
2. Bully Kutta
3. Dogo Argentino
4. Fila Brasileiro
5. Perro de Presa Canario
6. Bull Terrier
7. Cane Corso
8. American BullDog
9. American Bandogge
10. Akita

Thank you. You will find that list in my book I noted above. It will be on page 103.

The Tosa was once faught against a Dogue De Bordeaux because the Dogue De Bordeaux people wanted to see if the Japanese were telling the truth as they have the best fighter. They put them, the Tosa colided into the Dogue in the first 10 seconds and knocked it out cold.

This seems most improbable. Few would probably disagree with the claim that pound for-pound the American Pit Bull Terrier is the finest fighting dog in the world. Moreover, the smaller Pits Bull are usually the gamest and the most talented. Thus, one of these little dogs can often defeat a substantially larger dog, especially if the other dog is not a Pit Bull. However, it should be noted that serious dog fighters are very careful to closely match weights in the most intensely contested matches. A difference of only a few pounds can count a lot in a dog fight.

Moreover, the claim that a smaller dog has a great advantage by being able to get to the throat more readily becomes very silly on close examination. fighting dogs tosa pit bull fila presa(Editors Tosa on right) By that logic, a Jack Russell Terrier should be able to defeat the small Pit Bull, and a Chihuahua should be able to kill the Jack Russell, thus establishing the Chihuahua as the most formidable dog of all!

In point of fact, if a 30 pound Pit Bull went against a huge Fila like Gabriel, Jetson, Chaka, or Reno, the larger dog would crush the life out of the smaller dog long before the superior gameness or athletic ability of the Pit Bull came into play. Assuming the small Pit Bull did get a throat hold, it would most likely get nothing more than a mouthful of dewlap. It is commonly held that the only two real fighting dogs in the world are the American Pit Bull Terrier and the Japanese Tosa. I have heard it suggested that the ultra-rare Majorcan Presa fighting dogs tosa pit bull fila presa(aka Ca de Bou) might also qualify. The Korean Jindo (looks like an Akita) is also reputed to be a very tough customer. Middle Asian Ovcharkas are also reported to be used for fighting in their homeland and may possess some talent.

fighting dogs pit bull fila tosa dogoMixed matches between Pit Bulls and Tosas have produced mixed results. In Japan, one informant states, the Tosas defeat the Pit Bulls about 90 percent of the time. In such matches in the United States, the Pit Bulls have, with few exceptions, been victorious. However, such encounters typically involve Pit Bulls that are seasoned fighting dogs pitted against Tosas that have been little more than house pets.

Most Tosa breeders will have a story about how a dog from their bloodlines has killed or maimed a Pit Bull. It should be pointed out that there is a good deal of variation in the size and quality among both Tosas and Pit Bulls, the latter breed having suffered from the scourge of puppy mill breeding. In the case of a 140 pound Tosa of the finest East Japan fighting bloodlines against a 40 pound Pit Bull of indifferent breeding, I would have little doubt about the outcome.

On the other hand, a seasoned, game bred, game tested Pit Bull should be able to hold his own against almost any Tosa. As a matter of interest, several years ago a correspondent to the old Bulldog Review Magazine mentioned having visited Taiwan. He inquired about the presence of the Tosa fighting subculture in Taiwan. He was told that they had been killed off by Pit Bulls. One prominent Tosa breeder reported seeing four mixed matches in Hungary. One involved a large male Tosa against a Neapolitan Mastiff. This was a very one-sided slaughter that was soon halted to stop further harm to the Neo.

In the second bout, a smallish, young female Tosa fought to a draw with a male Pit Bull that was nearly as large as herself. In the other two bouts, the Tosas decisively defeated the Pit Bulls. In one of these contests, the Pit Bull was seriously mangled, loosing an eye in the fight. In both fights, the Tosas became more dominant as the fight progressed. Evidently, the Pit Bulls had tired from wrestling with the larger dogs. The same breeder mentioned having seen two spontaneous, accidental fights between Tosa's and Fila's at American dog shows. In both cases the Tosas very much dominated the action while it lasted.

Proceeding to some of the other mastiff type breeds, the American Bulldog varies considerably in size and temperament. They seem to be capable of fighting ferociously and capable for a short period of time and then losing interest quickly. My informant tells me of a mixed match which an American Bulldog punished an Argentine Dogo non stop for about 15 minutes and then quit when the Dogo finally fought back. I have also heard of a mixed match between a Tosa and an American Bulldog in which the Bulldog quickly jumped out of the ring to avoid further punishment. The Argentine Dogo was developed primarily as a hunting /pack dog. It does have some fighting breeds in its make up and can give a good account of itself in a scrap, but not on the same level as level as the "real fighting dogs".

The Presa Canario has its origins as a fighting dog. Today, it is largely a reconstructed breed, with heavy infusions of English Mastiff and American Staffordshire Terrier. As a fighter, it is reported to be similar to the American Bulldog - furiously aggressive for the first few minutes of the fight but lacking in gameness and staying power. The Dogue de Bordeaux has not been used as a fighting dog for about a century. In a mixed match with the Tosa witnessed by my principle informant, the two dogs collided in the middle of the ring and the Tosa knocked the Dogue de Bordeaux cold.

The Cane Corso looks like a fighting dog, but really isnt. In functions, it is more akin to the Fila; being primarily an estate guardian and protector of livestock. Also like Fila, it is a good pack dog. One of the leading Cane breeders tells me that he has as many as seven male Canes playing together peaceably. When all is said an done, the "Toughest Dog in the World" is probably either a 60 or 70 pound Pit Bull dog or a Tosa weighing about 130 pounds.

The Fila should not be considered a fighting dog. It was never bred for that purpose. It should be pointed out that the specialized fighting dogs are often of limited utility for much else. Many, if not most, Pit Bulls are too friendly to make effective property protectors, and many of them are stolen themselves.

A fair percentage of highly bred game Pit Bulls from the best fighting bloodlines are quite man-shy, and the same seems to be true with of Tosas, quite frequently, Other Pit Bulls and Tosas are very "waggy" in fact, for people whose primary interest in a dog is personal protection, I usually recommend the Fila over the Tosa, even though I dearly love my Tosa and am very partial to the latter breed.

 

Answer by Gambler
Submitted on 6/21/2005
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I dont understand why u guyz worship the APBT so much...  My mastiff killed a pair of APBTs last year.  Both dogs came running and growling at us.  I immediately understood they meant business, so i let my dog loose and told him to go for it.  My dog instantly killed the biggest one by breaking his neck (put the his entire head in his mouth and snapped it like a pray).  The second APBT was very stupid as he would constantly back off and charge at my dog.  It bit my dog in the neck, but thankfully only grabbed some dewlap.  My dog then crushed him on the ground and killed it eating its neck out.  My OEM is 265 pds and both APBT were close to 100 pds.  Since then, when I'm with my Mastiff, I see Pit Bulls as mad little dogs.  To me, a Pit Bull is to a Mastiff, what a mad and strong Chihuahua is to a Rottweiler...Dead meat...LOLOL!!!

 

Answer by JAY
Submitted on 6/24/2005
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I think that the amstaff could kill the apbt

 

Answer by Bully
Submitted on 7/10/2005
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I dont think most people here even know what a bully kutta is.

heres a few pics:
http://webzoom.freewebs.com/bullykutta/kalu%20adobe5.jpg

http://webzoom.freewebs.com/bullykutta/kala3.JPG

http://webzoom.freewebs.com/bullykutta/kaluadobe.jpg

http://webzoom.freewebs.com/bullykutta/kaluadobe1.jpg

http://webzoom.freewebs.com/bullykutta/cheeta54.JPG

http://webzoom.freewebs.com/bullykutta/jag5%20adobe.jpg

http://webzoom.freewebs.com/bullykutta/AB%20shaow%20032%20copy.jpg


 

Answer by countless
Submitted on 8/3/2005
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From all the reading I have done during the past year im pretty conviced that the Tosa Inu is the best fighting breed. I havent researched so much on bully kuta but from a tosa Inu vs. Pitbull situation, in the end Tosa Inu will beat a pitbull. Unfortunely, Tosa Inu'sare held in Japan to independant breaders. 350 Tosa'sare in existant. Of couse theres tosa in the US but they are again not Game Bread, more like show dog, campanion dog.

I don't like gamebred pitbulls to much there to unpredicatable. My friend had one who bite a kid running around. In the end it was sleep time for the dog.

In my research someone should create another breed.

 

Answer by saj
Submitted on 8/7/2005
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the best dog is Akita inu cross bully kutta
PURE game dog

 

Answer by INCA
Submitted on 8/27/2005
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Sorry....I have two Neapolitan Bull Mastiff Cross American Pit Bulls. They could whip anyone's dog. They can be as loving and soppy as anything one second, and with a click of the fingers and a 'command' from me, they are capeable of ripping anything to shreds. Im not proud of this fact. Actually, if they kill anymore cats or attack anymore dogs they will have to be euthanised. They weigh in at 80KG approc each and stand approc 4ft high.They are pure muscle and strength.

 

Answer by INCA
Submitted on 8/27/2005
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oh and Staffs.....gimme a break here. They aren't even in the top 10 of fighting dogs. Yeah they have strong jaws, but overall strength, agility, mobility, predatory behavior, cunning and skill??  No way. Mastiff will wipe the floor with the little critters.

 

Answer by INCA
Submitted on 8/27/2005
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oh and Staffs.....gimme a break here. They arent even in the top 10 of fighting dogs. Yeah they have strong jaws, but overall strength, agility, mobility, predatory behavior, cunning and skill??  No way. Mastiff will wipe the floor with the little critters.

 

Answer by punisher
Submitted on 9/6/2005
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that taco bell dog can kill a Kodiak or a grizzly bear. just kidding hey I liked your guys story's.   have a good one.

 

Answer by jab
Submitted on 9/14/2005
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apbt will kill any dog what comes in its way Japanese is 1 of the best it has to be raised by rought people my apbt destroyed i mean destroyed a irish staff and a tosa inu if ya want a strong dog get a pit

 

Answer by hunny
Submitted on 9/18/2005
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omg, zeek, get over please, lmao what makes u think u have such a bad ass dog ffs.  U cant judge a dogs fighting ability by its breed or size, it depends on each dog. I have 2 dogs, a full staff bull terrier who is the biggist whimp on earth and runs from anything and a staffy x labradour who despite her looks (like a cow) lol is terrible for picking fights and has whipped many a dogs ass b4 now including ripping a pitbulls throat. NOT that i agree with fighting because i dont and i dont let her, she is now never let off the lead.

 

Answer by Peter
Submitted on 9/19/2005
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I like kohati.
Can you recomend adress in Europe where somebody can buy the pupy? What is the prise?
Is kohati good with children?
Can kohati live in flat with proper exercises?


 

Answer by hunny_nottm
Submitted on 9/21/2005
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I think dog fighting should be banned, it's sick and cruel. I have a staff and a staff x lab, my staff is as soft as muck where as my staff x is nasty and will pick a fight with any other dog. I have to use a halti on her now when walking her.

 

Answer by cava
Submitted on 10/21/2005
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Who cares what dog fights the best...NO dog should ever know anything like that sort of treatment.  It's the most horrible form of cruelty and meanness I've ever heard of.  Why are you people giving out information like this to sick people who will then probably go buy those breeds and fight them!!!!

 

Answer by kangal
Submitted on 10/25/2005
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Kangal able to kill 3 volf in the same time it was proven in turkey.Dogo argentino I'm not gonna say anything about it go watch it your self www.patagoniadogos.com

 

Answer by phil
Submitted on 10/28/2005
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wot bout boxers

 

Answer by Aslan
Submitted on 10/31/2005
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Hello every one
im new with pittbulls ......im from Russia...exactly  from kavkas where the ovcharka live.....here the hunter take two ovcharka to hunt one bear...but i have now a pitbull ....i bring it from Ukrania...but belive me the ovcharka is a good fighter dog

 

Answer by Amar
Submitted on 11/20/2005
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to be honest it has to be The one and only ROTTWEILER and i personnally have a Brindle male Boxer

 

Answer by timmy
Submitted on 11/27/2005
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the new trend of dogs neer me are irish staffs they are similar to pits but u can tell which is which but if u want a dog with more game and moore fight u should get a english staff from a pup and train it and watch the little monster rip appart anything in his way

 

Answer by why
Submitted on 12/5/2005
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Why would u want to fight with dogs its sick

 

Answer by felix
Submitted on 12/9/2005
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hi all i live in the uk and have an irish staff. he's my pride and joy. if you want to see what he looks like here's the links hope you like him......

http://www.disqworld.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=180043&highlight=

http://www.bulldogbreeds.com/staffordshirebullterrier/photos.html

his name is alfie so look for that when you go into the sites!


 

Answer by azz
Submitted on 12/9/2005
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pits were bred so they have a high pain tolerence because in the pit the dogs would probably fight to the bitter end

 

Answer by azz
Submitted on 12/9/2005
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dog fighting is stupid and and illegal so its a stupid question really (my opinion).

 

Answer by azz
Submitted on 12/9/2005
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u could use any dog for fightin really but bully kutas(dogs) are probably the best

 

Answer by azz
Submitted on 12/9/2005
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if u r looking for a proper pit they aint cheap whoever says their cheap dunno anyfin about pits

 

Answer by jake
Submitted on 12/14/2005
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The strongest dogs in the world withought a doubt are the doberman and the rottweiller

 

Answer by Electrophile
Submitted on 12/15/2005
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You people make me sick.  Only the lowest of the low fight dogs and other animals for "entertainment."  

 

Answer by nemasis
Submitted on 12/18/2005
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For those of you that would like to see some Irish Staff site's,or something similiar ..."      http://www.northlancskennels.co.uk/    ",,,   http://www.keetchs-irish-staffords.com/  "
"http://www.shakerskennels.co.uk/   "

Hope this help ye understand the breed,for those that have'nt yet come across it.

 

Answer by AB
Submitted on 12/21/2005
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For those of you who are planning on fighting your dog or already do, It is a FELONY in all states to fight a dog. In most states it is also a felony to own fighting dogs and bet on dog fights. Just something to think about when you are doing jail time and ruining your life for fighting a dog.

 

Answer by omar/odb
Submitted on 1/9/2006
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cane corso is the all time best fighting dog you can ask for. Just think these dogs were made for war now thats counts higher than fighting. right or wrong

 

Answer by Dogchampion
Submitted on 1/21/2006
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Re you guys retarded or something cuz the only dog that can actually kill a apbt is the Tibetan mastiff. By the way a Tibetan mastiff can actually kill a wolves or leopard less than a minute!!!

 

Answer by Big Boy
Submitted on 2/15/2006
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I Reckon Rottweilers are the best fighting dogs ive seen them tear everything apart

 

Answer by DGMAN
Submitted on 2/16/2006
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It really helps if you put your dog on some methyl test.

 

Answer by gangus
Submitted on 2/17/2006
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mix of kohati bullterrier n pure bulldog is the best for fighting if there is a heavy fight dogs but if its light weight then ill preffer apbt or pure kohati bullterrier

 

Answer by workman43113
Submitted on 2/20/2006
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a pit will never be able to take a bully kutta or a tosa.  There is video on animal elite forum of a dog called an akbash whipping a pit so if you dont believe it simply go there and look.  Between a tosa and a bully kutta it will be a toss up and depend on the individual dog.  Here is the only Bully Kutta breeder site in the u.s.
http://www.webspawner.com/users/usabullykutta/index.html

 

Answer by jimmy
Submitted on 2/25/2006
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the french poodle is the best fighting dog you stupid idiots!!!! or a weaner dog

 

Answer by johnboy
Submitted on 2/28/2006
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the pitbull is the over all dog fighting machine and all of its bullterrier descendants as in irish staffie but if you keep goin on about fighting them theyl all end up banned

 

Answer by gtguy1
Submitted on 3/1/2006
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i don't think you deserve any breed of dog if you ask such a question

 

Answer by staffy lover
Submitted on 4/1/2006
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I think your all sick even talking about fighting dogs and which breed is best. get a life and leave dogs to being just dogs instead of putting them to fight this way. Its all sick and so are the people who do it or even talk about it.

 

Answer by terrier
Submitted on 4/4/2006
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Is this a sight for kid's.
Sounds like things we talked about in school

 

Answer by ANGE
Submitted on 4/8/2006
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DOGS ARE PETS .NOT 4 FIGHTING I HAVE A SHAR PEI PITT BULL CROSS HES THE MOST FRENDLIEST DOG U COULD EVER COME ACROSS

 

Answer by KingOfThePitt
Submitted on 4/20/2006
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How About A poodle, Tear The Balls Of Any Dog. & You's Know It Spa.... Carry On.

             LOL xxx

 

Answer by doggie
Submitted on 4/21/2006
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these kind of debates are pointless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
why even answer this person...FIGHTING DOGS IS ILLEGAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Answer by Zabo
Submitted on 4/22/2006
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You Sick, Twisted Idiots....

 

Answer by nobody
Submitted on 4/22/2006
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A bully kutta is the best dog for fighting.  It has size and strength over the apbt and gameness, size and endurance over the tosa.  I have some vids of them if anyone would like to see for themselves.

 

Answer by g
Submitted on 4/25/2006
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American bandogge crossbreed between mastiff and pit usually costing about 200 to 500 because their so rare they weigh 90 to 150 size may not always matter but if you have the right trainer their untouchable

 

Answer by diesel
Submitted on 5/5/2006
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help!!!! dose any one know where i can get a bully kutta from and whats the temp like with other dog knowing its a fighting breed but so is my other dog a pressa but he is good as gold and has only ever shone anger agaist an other dog once and that was when he almost got atacked by a boxer in a dog show i was looking for one as a buddy and poss breeding???????  

 

Answer by skud
Submitted on 5/9/2006
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wolf hybred....... enough said...

 

Answer by dee
Submitted on 5/19/2006
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you all make me sick dog fighting is discusting how can any of you call yourselves dog lovers you all need to be hanged.

 

Answer by cypher
Submitted on 5/25/2006
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hands down the apbt is the number one fighting dog i really don't care where your from and as far as bull terriers your full of it they where never ment for the pit rots shepards collies whatever the hell you want to bring, bring it a the game bred apbt is the number one fighting dog in the world bar none. with that said there is always a dog that can best another dog. not all apbts are champs. but breed for breed it's the apbt. HANDS DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Answer by Adams
Submitted on 5/27/2006
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You're all nuts. Theres no breed even close to being an equal to a pitbull in a fight. I'm talking game bred 45-70 pounders. Am Staffs dont count. Some one mentioned a Sharpei Thats laughable

 

Answer by Knowledge
Submitted on 6/3/2006
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Irish Staffs struggle to get over 30 pounds!
Yes, they are game but they are not as strong as the APBT of the same size. The APBT would win most of the time against it.
Tosa's are the only legitimate fighting dogs besides the APBT's The Bully Kuttas are overgrown mastiffs. The English Bull Terrier would never win against the APBT in a match. To insuate that they aren't fought because they cost too much is stupidity at its best.
Being that some APBT's cost well over a 1000 dollars.

 

Answer by unknown
Submitted on 6/10/2006
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if you ask me fighting is stupid there is no good breed of fighting dogs to do that to a dog is cruel an d unusual punishment you set and get bit and let the flesh get ripped from your body and see how it feels there is no fighting people who do it are dumb when you do it do you ever stop to think im hurting a living thing that has feelings soon if the pit bull fighting doesnt stop they will eventually be gone because each state will ban pitbulls there are many bans in place already i think if you find it funny to fight dogs they should put you in that dogs place

 

Answer by Sarah
Submitted on 6/20/2006
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I have a question I know English Bulldogs havent been used to fight for many years but if someone raised one to be mean and extrmely aggresive do you think it would make an "Ok" fighting dog?

 

Answer by yasar
Submitted on 6/28/2006
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anser to 1st question jus cauze he asked that sort of question it dont mean that he wants to fight it he probbaly does or he probbaly jus wants to find out and the anser to that is i think iz 3 dogz and they are = american pitbull = bully kutta = japanese tosa they are the best fighting dogs

 

Answer by HeLSiN
Submitted on 7/4/2006
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no way any pit would beat a bully... i mean cmon ... 100Kg of dog ... look at this bullys-http://www.mbkdogs.com/bullykutta2.htm

now tell me ... a pit has a chance... its twice the size ... like tyson vs tysonX2 .... lol ... pits are 4 shoeoffs

 

Answer by ruddy
Submitted on 7/13/2006
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english staffs would smash any dog its the original fighting dog

 

Answer by Roy
Submitted on 7/30/2006
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The Tosa can kill a smaller APBT in little time do to the sheer power of the Tosa. It takes at least a 60lbs pitbull to handle a 125lbs Tosa (light heavyweight class). But if you have a 150lbs Tosa vs the large majority of any dogs out there the Tosa will win. Bully Kutta dogs show promise and can fight up to one hour in very hot conditions. They also are recently testing Bully vs Tosa as both sides (Pakistan and Japan) have really never tested their fighting stock against each other.

Any other breed is not used or is not competitive enough for the long duration. You might have an occasionally freaky dog from a different breed but those are rare and not consistent.

Dog fighting is legal in Japan and right now they have the best thing going for them as they do not fight their dogs to the "Death" and have ringside vets ready to perform quick fixes or save the dogs life.

I've seen a video of a game abpt vs a large super heavyweight Tosa. It looked as though the apbt was being played around with and all that gameness didn't matter as the Tosa kept his powerful jaws clamped around the poor apbt's head (they stopped the fight).

 

Answer by MAYA
Submitted on 7/30/2006
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IT DOES DEPEND ON THE TRAINING THE DOG HAS HAD I HAVE SEEN A RED NOSE PITT BEAT DOGS LISTED ABOVE BECAUSE OF ITS TRAINING(TRAINED TO KILL)WHICH I DO NOT APROVE OF MY SELF, SEEN RED (PITTS NAME) PULL A DUDE ON A MOTORCYCLE WITH HIS TEETH JUST FOR TRAIN. CHASE A JACK RABBIT JUST FOR SPEED,BRING A TEXAS LONG HORN TO ITS KNEES ,(DOG GOT LOSE) BUT YES INDEED DEPENDS ON THE TRAINING THE DOG HAS HAD.

 

Answer by jesus
Submitted on 8/7/2006
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All of you are retarted

 

Answer by marco
Submitted on 8/8/2006
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the irish  staff probably wouldnt have the strengh advantage the pitbull is a muscular beast but an english staff from the victorian ages could beat a pitbull 8 out of 10 times.

 

Answer by paul
Submitted on 8/11/2006
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hey guys i got a question for ya. have u ever seen a cou de fila de sou miguel against a game dog ? i seen a thing on tv that had a bit about them and they looked pretty impressive. and how do u think a bouvier de flanders would do ? or a blue heeler. ive heard a few stories of heelers being tough. but i havent anything to go by but there word. u guys know ?( iv seen alot of variety in heelers so i know there not all tough but a few of them look pretty tough

 

Answer by john
Submitted on 9/14/2006
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iv seen an english bully rip out a dobermans chest wid its lock jaw. Im sure dat it would be a fair fight wid a pit ball.

 

Answer by rasul
Submitted on 9/20/2006
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central asian owtcharka, tosa inu or bully kutta are the best fighting dogs in the world i'mpassionate about this i have hundreds om films. personally i'mfrom eastern europe and here , in many countries  dog fights are not illegal. and you tALKING ABOUT CAUCASIAN owtcharka? if cajun rules are not permitted and dogs are not separated in 9 cases from 10 caucasian would rip off the pit, i'vseen dogs from lines like carver, alligator, fat joe almost killed by the huge owtcharka

 

Answer by gdubs
Submitted on 10/19/2006
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Surely if you take the best ESBT and breed them in ireland , Its still a ESBT , For example if two Chinese people have a kid in spain its still a chinese kid , it just has a spanish passport, Im not buying it , I think that another breed must have been interbred to create the Irish staff.

 

Answer by Shaka
Submitted on 10/19/2006
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i agree with jac an irish staff n a pitbull put 2 da test it wld depend on da individual my opinion on what i have witnessed in terms of gameness an irish staff might slightly be quicker and agile the fact that it is still in its purest form unlike the pitbull. Irish staffs are far much couragous than the pitbull wc many will find hard to believe irish staffs are known to jump off balcony's becoz somin interstin 3 floors dwn has caught thier eye of wc i dnt c a pitbull doin the same my irish staff if left unattended in the back garden for a long time will chew thru the wooden fence to get out of the garden wc i have witnessed and any irish staff owner will prob agree to.
Ohh by the way i am a breeder of both the irish staff and pitbull .
american pitbull seems to be the favourite and most popular dog to be used for fighting but in ireland where dog fighting is still a major prob the irish staff is favourite

 

Answer by moey
Submitted on 10/28/2006
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i dont think u ppl have any idea about irish staffs because i have one i also have a english staff and my mate has a triple breed apbt and in comparisons the irish staff is almost as tall but twice as bulky and has alot more power then the apbt the irish staff are no joke it would kill an apbt without a problem and for history the irish say that the irish staff was a breed of its own well before the apbt ever existed also the irish claim that the apbt originally comes from the irish staff.

 

Answer by killa
Submitted on 11/9/2006
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Presa canario'sare number 1! They can beat any dog when full grown, they are quick,flexible,strong and have very powerfull jaws! presa canario can fight many ways i.e. grappling,submitting and most of all charging and winding opponents.

 

Answer by aaron
Submitted on 11/27/2006
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what is the ultimate fighting dog.a irish staff a pitbull or a english bull terrier my english had a fight with amercain pitbull rotti and staff and only came out with a small scrath on his head but it was like half a centermeter deep

 

Answer by F_Bone
Submitted on 11/29/2006
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I don't believe in dog fighting. But, I had a neighbor who did. His dog's (APBT) would get out and attack my Chow. I had it with them. So, the next time it happened I let my Akita, Malamute and wolf mix out to protect his buddy the chow. He almost killed both pit's. I called him and he stopped immediately. I would like to see a pit be that controlled. Needless to say my neighbor took this as a wake up. No longer were his dogs out and about. It was lame that it had to come to this. Prior to this event I called the animal control. They showed up a week and half later to talk to my neighbor. By that time my chow would of been dead and maybe worst could of happen ( could of been a kid ). Take responsibility of your animals. The less you do the more laws they'll make. Think about it

 

Answer by lil keith
Submitted on 12/8/2006
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the best blood line is master or blue pits

 

Answer by anonomouse
Submitted on 12/29/2006
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The dog that is most commonly use for fighting is the amount but it count on where it is like in asia it is the bull kutta

 

Answer by sabinorey
Submitted on 1/11/2007
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Of what i'veknown about dog fighting is that apbt or any kind of bull terrier wins fights because of its game, in other words if a big dog such like the tosa inu or the bully kutta do not find the way to give a deadly strike to apbt, the apbt is more likely to win, cause its game that gives him great durability, but if not he is killed very easy, and of what i'veseen the apbt is overwhelmed by the power, size and weigh of other dogs like the tosa inu, bully kutta, kangal, akbash and even the anatolian shepherd.    

 

Answer by gman35
Submitted on 1/12/2007
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for all of u who like the pitting game and love to gamble on a dog .... if an ovtcharka shows up and is rolled , put ur money on him . they r relatively new to the american dog fights but very lethal... the two i have seen ends fights very quickly not allowing the gameness to b a factor so i do not know if they r truely game ...

 

Answer by metalord
Submitted on 1/12/2007
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there is a reason that the most commonly fought dog is the apbt.to argue about which strain would win in a fight is futile.like jac said ,to say because i live in canada and someone else lives in the usa,i would win in a fight because people raised and breed in the cold north are tougher is retarded.gameness is one thing and size is another,to say that a apbt could whip a bully kutta is comparing apples to watermelons.the other chap who disregarded the american bulldog from class A must not have ever owned one.a well bred 100 lbs ab is an awesome fighting dog,with as much gameness as ant apbt.

 

Answer by yann
Submitted on 1/24/2007
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i know that in bresil you can see pit bull fight lasting 4 hours and with the dog the leg break and they continue to fight or sometime i have heard that some 24 kg pitbull fight again 50 kg pitbull so i think pit bull is the most used for fight.

 

Answer by kal
Submitted on 2/7/2007
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which is the best fighter a presa canerio or pittbull

 

Answer by andy
Submitted on 2/23/2007
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i'vegot an american rednose pitbull terrier and if anybody would like to fight it then let me know..because this breed of APBT is rare and grows twice the size of an average pitbull.

 

Answer by to unknown
Submitted on 3/14/2007
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a caucasian ovcharca can beat any dog

 

Answer by dog man
Submitted on 3/21/2007
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i'vegot a two year old irish pit bull and it will take down any god from an american bull dog to a persa trust me im talking from experience

 

Answer by untouchable
Submitted on 4/9/2007
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ladz i have been in this game for too long now i have dealt with pits bullies an presas my top 3 soldiers as i call them. ive crossed all three breads and the end result is the ultimate fighting champion ny1 wid ny doubts holla bak an put ur dog in the pit with mine.

 

Answer by WAICHANGKANE
Submitted on 4/14/2007
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I KNOW  PEOPLE  WHO HAVE KENNELLED WELL KNOWN FIGHTING APBT'SWHO HAVE BEEN UNBEATEN AND EARNT THEIR OWNERS LOADSA WONGA AND IN KENNEL ACCIDENTS THEIR PRECIOUS APBT'SHAVE BEEN LITERALLY EATEN BY THE ROMANY BULLDOG. THE BEST I THINK

 

Answer by SPEEDTRIPLE
Submitted on 4/15/2007
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THE ROMANY BULLDOGGE WOULD WIN HANDS DOWN AND THAT IS A FACT!!!! I AM NOT INTO FIGHTING DOGS. BUT KNOW OF KENNEL INCIDENTS ETC. WHERE A ROMANY HAS WON EVERY TIME AND EASILY, TIME AND TIME AGAIN!! DOG FIGHTING IS BANNED AND SHOULD STAY BANNED AND THOSE WHO ARE INTO IT, MAYBE LET YOUR DOGS HAVE A BIT OF FREE TIME AND FIGHT EACH OTHER IF YOU HAVE THE DISCIPLINE AND DETERMINATION THAT SOME OF THESE GREAT BREEDS HAVE INSTEAD OF BEING JACK THE LAD DOWN THE PUB SAYING MY DOG IS THIS HARD(..............)

 

Answer by waiseOne
Submitted on 4/16/2007
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pitbull are the only top fighters.thats why it took dogmen a long period of time to produces "game" dogs.

 

Answer by Dado
Submitted on 4/24/2007
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A  Brazilian Fila can beat a APBT,it's been already seen,the fila has it's additional skin to protect it from the APBT'sdeadly thrust towards common dogs neck,the APBT being smaller than most molosses.The fila is also exceptionally agile,any one that knows them well enough can tell you their cat like movement resembles the jaguar's.And the fila has a very nasty jaw.I'm not saying it's the best,but it sure can beat the APBT.

 

Answer by brum
Submitted on 5/15/2007
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ihave a choclate irish pit and its aliving beast.

 

Answer by yokozuna
Submitted on 5/20/2007
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are uselot gay da irish staff is pretty tuff but it cannot stand a chnce against a pit man come on

 

Answer by R.A.W Show me real pits
Submitted on 5/21/2007
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So many stupid comments in so little time. I know real dogmen and seen real dogmen. Anyone proud enough to put their dogs and their own lives in the hands of public like the internet is a dog man. (I am not saying a minuature pinscher will beat APBT but it comes down to this)No breed is better than another in a fight it all comes down to the heart of dog and heart of a dogman. For all who think they are dogmen(young people getting started, I am in this group too) Read and research it is 2007 not 1937 colby and tudor alligator/ yellow dog are not here anymore. Learn genetics from education and listen to old dog men to be a true bulldog dogmen. Just because your peds say champ or you good lines doesn't mean you will have good dog. Papers and name don't mean nothing without the proof of yourself working your dogs. GET TO WORK and long live the PITBULL


 

Answer by T.bone
Submitted on 6/1/2007
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unknown doesn't know what he is saying and most of you don't the best fighting dogs ever as recorded is the Dogue de bordeux.  For it was recorded that this dog beat a leopard that is use to killing dogs on a basis.  But I would say if it was all said and done the Presa would be the best Dog for any job.  Even though the Bordeux played a role of developement on a lot of dogs.

 

Answer by junkyard
Submitted on 6/5/2007
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apbt(hands dow)..you all know just like i do,stop trying to convince ya'llself or lyin.put up are be easy..being a breeder (noTORIous kennels)i'veseen more in a month than you'll seen in a life time..nothing comes close to that pitbull....

 

Answer by Pitbull dogman
Submitted on 6/10/2007
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like debating about rottweiler vs pitbull, lion vs tiger? this is the place to b : http://z7.invisionfree.com/k9_mania/index.php

 

Answer by ZAF_DON
Submitted on 6/15/2007
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I think that pitbulls , tosa inus, american bandogges and the bully khutta r the most viscious dogs on da planet so when it comes to fighting dogs then no other breeds r a mentioned.

 

Answer by john b
Submitted on 6/27/2007
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this is how it goes the pit type and bullterior type are are the most common fighters but ther r also just a few mastivs used.


pit bull types

-american pit (a.p.b.t)- closest relative old english bull dog.
-american staff - closest relative english staff
-irish/irish blue staff - closest relative english bull terrior

bull terrior types (most comonly used for fighting)

-english bull terrior
-staffatur bull terrior
and so on

mastiiff type

-argentinan dogo
-canary dogo

the most common fighiting dog back when the sport was leagle was the now extinct old english bull dog.

 

Answer by Hiemler
Submitted on 7/5/2007
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Ya'll should see how them wolf crosses fight they tear the legs clean of those wussy apbt.

 

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