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Question by Repo
Submitted on 1/30/2004
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How do i find out the correct Maori Tattoo for the Tainui Iwi


Answer by Raumati
Submitted on 2/21/2004
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ki ahau nei me hoki atu koe ki to marae patai atu ki nga kaumatua. Tirohia i nga whare moi kei reira nga whakahua o nga tupuna e iri ana mai reira ka whiwhi koe wetahi whakaro ahuahanga o tainui whanui.Kei reira nga tamako tika mo taau iwi.

 

Answer by D TE AMOHANGA
Submitted on 2/23/2004
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YOU SHOULD GO TO KING COUNTRY N.Z AND MAKE YOUR WAY TO THE LOCAL MARAE AND ASK AN ELDER.

 

Answer by D.TE AMOHANGA
Submitted on 3/8/2004
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YOU DON'T , ONE MUST EARN THE RIGHT TO WEAR
MOKO AND IT IS CRUCIAL THAT ONES ELDERS & FAMILY MEMBERS ARE SUPPORTIVE OF YOUR DECISION AS YOU CARRY WITH YOU THE VERY ESSCENTS OF THERE EXISTANCE AS WELL AS THE TUPUNA BEFORE YOU. TAA MOKO MUST BE RESPECTED
AND NOT REGARDED AS A MEAR TATOO FOR OUR TUPUNA DESERVE THAT RESPECT AND THEY RIGHTFULLY HAD MOKO APPLIED TO THERE BODY'S
FOR REASON OTHER THAN A FASSION STATEMENT....

 

Answer by Krystle Savage
Submitted on 4/4/2004
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Lawrence

 

Answer by yayayaya
Submitted on 5/10/2004
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je peux on lever ma vest

 

Answer by Dana
Submitted on 7/8/2004
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my question is:
  I am of New Zealand decent and am looking into getting a tattoo of my culture and history.  I have researched fully into the different designs but am not too sure of what they mean and I do not want to insult my family and other Maori's by using incorrect designs, who can I talk to in regards to finding out the specific meanings??

 

Answer by Leila and Terangi
Submitted on 7/16/2004
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well dana, 1st and foremost you need to reckognise what decent you are to begin with and obviously you have'ntdone enough research because research will tell you that you need to ask your whanau, If you are pakeha, don't get one!, if your are pakeha with maori in you then ask your whanau, as it is all hidden in your whanau lineage. Taa moko is not only about the design nore whakapapa but the journey in which it takes you to discover the history of your taamoko.

 

Answer by Jacsbloke
Submitted on 9/8/2004
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If you are a pakeha get one -  as long as it doesn't have ownership already - however there are people who will design a contemporary original design that isn't derivative.
This can still be done without showing disrespect to the Tangata Whenua.

 

Answer by Answer by Tom
Submitted on 9/22/2004
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The journey through life is yours and yours alone.  Family are there to support you.  This is a step which you must take - alone.
This is sacred because it holds your family history.
Your parents' marae will hold most of the patterns, but you need to know what they mean. Your elder will tell you what each pattern means.

 

Answer by king kereama
Submitted on 10/10/2004
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I am part maori and have the 1st maori king blood in me I want someone to send me a  good meaning tattoo like warrior to me.

 

Answer by the answer
Submitted on 10/13/2004
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hey there i am a pakeha but 85 % of my blood is Maori , cause my dad is a maori , but my mum is pakeha , am i still aloud to have Ta moko but which side of the family would it come from , cause my dads side his great great great great grandad was a tribal chief, but yet my mum side come s from a tribe as well , or would i just have them both

 

Answer by rebecca
Submitted on 12/6/2004
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kia ora,i agree with what every1 has said,as i am 1 quarter maori and my daughter is a half cast due to her father being maori as well.a moko must be earn't not worn,and mokos belong to the ancestors who earn't them in blood shed and growth in culture,if a tattoo of meaning is what is want,research the meaning of the designs/patterns and design your own body tattoo not a ancestors moko/4 example a fern means growth.i myself am researching tattoos but with the intention of learning and pride to dedicate my finished design and research of it to my daughter and to wear it with my own knowledge and pride of my family and culture.Ka kite ano

 

Answer by dean
Submitted on 1/27/2005
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hi
my name is dean i have been wanting a tattoo for a while now but i am worryed about if i pick the worng tattoo i really want somthing that means something and that i won't regret having for the rest of my life

 

Answer by io
Submitted on 3/7/2005
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fanculo a tutti!

 

Answer by KUMARA
Submitted on 5/8/2005
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HE TINO MANA TA TENEI MEA TE TAA MOKO, HE MANA HE MAURI HE TAPU, HE TAONGA TUKU IHO MAI IO MATOU MATUA TIPUNA.EHARA TENEI MEA TE TAA MOKO I TE MAHI HEI WHAKAATU I TE PAI ENGARI HEI WHAKAATU KO WAI KOE, NO HEA KOE,A,KA TAEA HOKI TE TAA MOKO TE KORERO,AHAKOA HE AHA ME "WHAI MANA" NGA MAHI TAA MOKO.ENGARI I MUA I TO TAA MOKO ME KORERO KOE KI O KOROUA KUIA O TO WHANAU, O TO ROHE RANEI ANO HOKI O MATUA. KIA WHAI KIKO, KIA WHAI MARAMATANGA KIA KOE ANO. HE TINO TAONGA TE TAA MOKO NOREIRA HE TAPU, ME WHAIKOHA IA KOE E MAU ANA I TENEI TUMOMO MEA.KEI ETAHI HE TAA MOKO KIA MATAPOPORE IA RATOU. MEI KORE MO O TATOU TIPUNA KAORE TENEI TAONGA E ORA, A, MEI KORE HOKI MO NGA TANGATA I WHAKAORA I ENEI MAHI I NGA TAU RUATEKAU KUA PAHURE TERA PEA KA MATE NOA KI TE PO KATAHI RA KA RITE KI TE MOA. KOIA TE TAKE ME WHAIWHAKAARO KI ENEI MEA KATOA I MUA I TO TAA MOKO IA KOE. HOIANO KOIRA ETAHI O OKU WHAKAARO MO NGA MAHI TAA MOKO KAARE AU I TE HIAHIA TE PATOPATO I TETAHI PURAKAU AHAKOA KUA PERA TE HAERE ENGARI RA KOIA TAAKU. NOHO ORA MAI. *NOK_NAH*

 

Answer by Brad
Submitted on 7/23/2005
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i am was wondering i am not of new Zealand dependence but my rugby team is going to new Zealand fro our tour and i ve always wanted to get a traditional tattoo of the culture are their any tattoos for people who aren't of new Zealand culture?

 

Answer by shykera
Submitted on 9/5/2005
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well I'm in a bit of predicament i wanted to get a tattoo of a Maori design to describe my life journey of a lost Maori because my parents wont tell me anything about anything my family don't speak to each other and i don't understand the first thing about my Maori heritage and i want to but i want to explain it in my tattoo whats a good way to explain a design without insulting anyone

 

Answer by Allana
Submitted on 9/13/2005
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I am in the same situation as Dana, i was always going to ask my whanau about my history, and go back to where my mother came from. I just want to know why being a pakeha i shouldn't get one?

 

Answer by DARK HORSE
Submitted on 10/1/2005
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Hey i am a pakeha but like my dads dad married a moari and we have like a bit of moari in us i do belong to ngati Tahu but i dont no if i pass as a true member hoooo should i contact i have been i bloody australia for years but wont to show my heritage and be proud of it. wat should i do and if u think i deserve one have you got any good sites i can look at.

Thanx for readin. Waka

 

Answer by mark nahona
Submitted on 11/7/2005
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i am a decent from new zealand and i dont know of my culture and i would like a tattoo, to represent where i come from but i dont know anything of my culture and would like to learn, who do i have to talk to about this so i can learn the way.

 

Answer by hemi
Submitted on 12/16/2005
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As a person of New Zealand lineage, regardless of race or religion, the choice to wear a moko is a personal freedom.  No boundries should be put on this.  Being a part of New Zealand is special and representing your cultural heritage is paramount to ones identity within the world in which we live.  A moko is forever Dana, so make up your own mind, but wear it proudly! :)

 

Answer by waiata
Submitted on 1/4/2006
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Kia Ora everyone. i need help. i am a maori/samoan girl living in  ireland for the last 9 years and left aotearoa wen i was ten.i want a taamoko  that will tell the story of taku iwi ngapuhi, the only problem is on this side of world it isnt that easy getting advice on it as all my whanau here are pakeha and i rarely talk to my real whanau. any advice?

 

Answer by waapz
Submitted on 3/10/2006
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my question:
i am of Maori descent and am looking at getting a tattoo. i have drawn myself a design but do i need to ask my mum for permission to get it done she is pakeha. is there anyone i need to consult before getting it done? please email me waapz06@hotmail.com to help me out.

 

Answer by maori man sam
Submitted on 3/27/2006
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if your pakeha gap it

 

Answer by Tama
Submitted on 5/6/2006
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Anyone proud enough to want a tattoo can have one, to have one that shows you love the country is a good thing, but to have one that means something and binds you to your whanau you must have its understanding and its blessing. otherwise its just another tattoo

 

Answer by Tawhai Ririnui
Submitted on 5/23/2006
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very very good girlie

 

Answer by tee1
Submitted on 6/27/2006
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How do i find the right Ta moko tatto that i want for my body either in between my shoulders or on my lower back

 

Answer by hanley
Submitted on 7/21/2006
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i have a similar question to dana. i am also from new zealand decent and would like to find out more. I have an extensive family tree compiled back to the 17th century.Yet i cant find any definative answers. i will drop one name that of my great grandfatherx7 Chief Patuone. Can any one tell me the design for the nga phui tribe or directly that of Chief Patuone's decendants? Please if anyone can give me some answers i would appreciate it

 

Answer by raniera
Submitted on 7/22/2006
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dear dana do not listen to thoughtless or unintelligent answer given by both leila and terangi. To say to someone they are unable to own something based on ethic background is both racist and unjust..to have a tattoo reflecting your nz background can be look at in 2 ways, is it merely design/look ( kiri tuhi ) or Ta moko. Each perspective has significant bearings.  

 

Answer by lil ganSTA
Submitted on 8/20/2006
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SHERRRRRR BOIIIIII

 

Answer by dolly
Submitted on 10/19/2006
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my partner is of Maori descent (with a pakeha father) and unfortunately he was brought up in Aus with very little cultural influence however every time ive asked him when hes going to get a traditional tattoo, every time hes told me WHEN IVE EARNT IT!!! your not moari at heart if you do not understand this. i am happy to say that when his family feel he is ready he will fly home and have his uncle design and tattoo it for him.
further more i have a friend with a cambodian boyfriend who imitated a ta moko, needless to say when the wrong ppl saw it he didnt feel so good about it anymore

 

Answer by peter
Submitted on 10/30/2006
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Iam a Australian and married to a N.Z wife with maori desent we have three children and have been together for 23 years the wife's brothers and i would like to get a tattoo of our famiy'shistory her tribe is the ngaphui tribe.

 

Answer by aroha
Submitted on 11/22/2006
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kia ora no tainui ahau engari kei tawahi ahau e noho ana... e pirangi hoki ahau tetahi taamoko no toku iwi mena no tainui koe ka taea te awhi ia ahau patai atu mai tena koutou!!

 

Answer by Zach
Submitted on 1/18/2007
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my question is, i was woundering who do i see about getting a taa moko because ever since my nan died my maori family kinda lost touch of each other so i had no one to ask

 

Answer by Kavika
Submitted on 2/15/2007
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I think the information for the correct moko meanings need to be more accessible to those who are interested in getting one.
Times are different.
Tradition also started out as fashion
then became tradition and why deny someone
the right represent you're traditional values.
Educate on the correct meanings and make it more accessible for not only the new generation, but other polynesians around the globe who crave all polynesian culture.




 

Answer by ali
Submitted on 2/15/2007
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my and my other 2 sisters want to get the same maori tattoo meaning family but i just cant seem to find any web sites anywhere!! Could you please lead me in the right direction?

 

Answer by blur
Submitted on 2/17/2007
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question: i was born and raised in the far north around cape kari kari with my father i am about to turn 21 and am about to get a moko down my right arm the tatooist is in the far north but my whakapapa is whakatohea witch is from my mums side  further south my mum dont know much about the designs , is it wise to go ahead with the tatooist in the north or find a tatooist in the south who knows more about my whakapapa and designs

 

Answer by Te Taniwha
Submitted on 5/16/2007
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E Repo, ka nui te mihi ki a koe ehoa. My advice is not to listen to anyone who can't even submit a gramatically correct response to your question. IWI means nothing without strong Hapu and you can never have strong Hapu without strong Whanau. It is not the other way around. Iwi never comes first. Whanau, Hapu then Iwi last but not least. So start with your Whanau, then your Hapu and Iwi. That is where you will find the answers to your questions, not here. Take your time and research the process and the tikanga to make the action safe. The moko is already in you. All we are doing when we actually apply the process is scraping off the upper layer to reveal what is underneath.

 

Answer by cardi
Submitted on 5/23/2007
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the maori native culture its amazing, im delighted! art for is beauty and foremost for is meaning, makes me want to get one maori tattoo done! but first i want to make some crucial question: i know that native maori have to earn each of his tattoo...so i want to ask,if i get an maori tattoo done on me,i am disrespecting the entire maori culture? or should i go to new zealand, know the culture and later get an maori tattoo done? maybe it have more meaning,am i wrong?

 

Answer by tanirau
Submitted on 6/11/2007
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what a load of crapp...dont let anyone tell you what to wear or when to wear it....tino rangatiratanga babe....na taniraum@hotmail.com  

 

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