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HOW BAD IS IT TO PIERCE YOUR LIP BY YOURSELF?

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Answer by =)
Submitted on 4/2/2004
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I pierced my lip on Saturday, It's April. 2nd I'm thinking now. I pierced it on the left side. I was a LITTLE off and pierced just a bit too high, but it still look's great. I have a barbell in. What I did was took some pills [ i know stupid ] for I had a little bit more confidence..I just took 3 benadryl. and 1 and a half tylonel. Then I took a sewing pin, And some Alcohol wipes and a Lighter, And cleaned the pin, Then I marked my spot with a pen.. And took A sewing pin and TWISTED IT (( Twisting is way faster! )) and Kept on twisting the pin inward until it finally popped through, Then I took a safety pin, And As soon as I took the sewing pin out I shuved the Safety pin through. I did it at my friends... The next day I went and got a barbell and streteched it [ WHICH HURT ] but thats okay...and I still have the barbell in, I'm planning on getting a hoop soon. I clean it after I eat, smoke, drink with anti - septic mouth wash and Poly sporin ( only for the outside of the ring) And use anti-septic mouth wash for the inside and clean it good. My lips doing great, And, it doesn't hurt as much as it looks.. I'm happy I did it :) So for whoever does their lip by theirself, make sure you do it right! And keeep it clean :) bye!

Answer by 131313
Submitted on 5/5/2004
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hey. my advice on piercings is don't do it yourself unless you know what you're doing. i've done 11 piercings on my ears and my belly button myself without a problem. i don't want my parents to find out so i just use stuff around the house. i first sterilize what i'm going to pierce with (usually a safety pin) with a lighter and then hand disinfectant stuff which i also put on my hands. then i clean the barbell/hoop/whatever i'm gonna put in there once it's pierced. then i just put ice on it until i can't feel it much. then i slowly push the safety pin thru so that i am sure i can handle it. i've had no problem with my ears or belly button but the area around the piercing is always a lil' bit sensitive. my friends think i'm crazy for doing it myself but i do so many piercings that it's totally worth not paying for it. i would say that if you've never done a piercing before and you want to do one on your face...you should start with your ears just to make sure you can handle it. i came on this site to get info on piercing my lip and nose. people shouldn't come on here and say it's stupid to do it yourself...they're just too wimpy to try. good luck to you all!

Answer by Kelli
Submitted on 7/10/2004
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Ok.... about lip piercings..... i did mine about 6 times... and this time im deffinently keeping it in.. ok.... what i did... was look up on the computer to see pictures.. so i knew where to do it... so i did that.. i had a little mirror by me... right here by the computer.... and i was talking to my friend and i was like.. im gonna pierce my lip right here right now.. then he said go for it... so i took a needle.. and i pushed it threw.. yes it did hurt.. but im used to the pain.... and i got so bored i pierced my ears... well i had them pierced i just put more holes in my left ear... so if you have any question..... im me .. aim : fLiRtwlthSuiCiDe or email me.... put put for the subject lip piercing... so i know.. yes here it is... xfataldreamx@aol.com... thanks

Answer by piercing lover
Submitted on 8/3/2004
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hey you guys well although piercing your lip yourself is not the best way to go if you plan on doing it DO NOT use a normal earing go to like a drug store and get a seringe (spelt wrong) and some mouth wash with no alcohol in it for the first few dayz dilute it with 50% water wash at least 3 to 4 times a day, DO NOT play with the jewelry until the piercing is completely healed (3-5 weeks) and try to avoid any play afterwords. heavy creams are not to good because they keep the piercing from breathing ...but any ways to sterilize your skin rub non-alcoholic antibacterial liquid on it and to sterilize the needle get some neosporin and boil the needle first cover the tip of the needle in neosporin and your all set ps. if you hold an apple behind your lip the needle is WAY easier to push through and goes straighter. have fun and be safe (have a friend around in case of accident)

Answer by Body Piercer
Submitted on 10/23/2004
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I think you are all stupid. Do you know what could happen by piercing yourself without having the right knowledge or experience? I am a body piercer and even I let people do my facial piercings because mirrors aren't very reliable. You can SERIOUSLY hurt yourself and get very bad infections. Trust me..save the money and go to a professional your parents will thank you when it comes to your hospital bill that ran them a few thousand dollars. Cartilage (top of your ear or nose) is a very delicate thing to pierce. If you don't do it right, and use a hollow needle (piercers use hollow needles to remove skin and allow for jewelry, sewing needles don't do this), you can get a build up of cartilage that will grow out of nowhere and can lead to nose and ear deformities. Also infections. I'm not talking about just a little bit of puss and pain. I'm talking about an infection that grows under the skin and can make you septic (a term which means you have poisoned your blood). This is why we have professionals, and this is why you shouldn't use regular sewing needles. Also another reason not to use sewing needles. For one..you cannot sterlize them. No matter what your friends told you. Its not disinfected by boiling or use of alcohol. I swear on my career that it does NOTHING! The proper way to sterilize jewelry and needles are an autoclave. They get hotter than boiling water, and they have this ultrasonic sound that repells things off of the crevices of the metal. Go to a piercer and save yourself the trouble!!!!!!!

Answer by Melissa
Submitted on 12/13/2004
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Hey. I want to get my labret done REALLY bad, but mom wont let me. I am prepared to do it myself. I can deal with pain extremely well, and I am ready for the pain. No regrets. I've read on that it's normal for some oozing if it's watery and it's normal for it to swell a bit. I'm not worried about it, but the only thing that worries me is how far down should I put it? How should I measure it? If I pierce it with a safety pin, how should I sterilize it? Can I wear a hoop first? Could I put a 14 gauge in it as soon as I pierce it? Any professionals PLEASE contact me by AIM: xxdismalxxstarxx by MSN: theamericanregret@hotmail.com or by yahoo lotrfreakaholic13 THANK YOU SOOO MUCH! :D

Answer by CYNTHIA AKA YO-YO
Submitted on 12/15/2004
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HEY,YESTERDAY(12-14-04) I WENT TO MY FRIENDS HOUSE AND I WANTED TO GET MY TOUNG PERICED AND HER AND I WENT UP IN HER BATHROOM AND DID IT. MY FRIEND GGOT HALF WAY THROU AND IT HURT HER TO BAD AND SO SHE TOOK IT OUT. ME I GOT IT THROU AND I HAVE IT IN RITE NOW. I USED A SAFTY PIN BUT YOU KNO IT WORKED REALLY GOOD TO TELL YOU THE TRUT. THERE IS ONLY 2 THINGS MY DAD TOLD ME I CANT GET IT DONR UNTIL I MOVE OUT...AND IT IS KINDA A LITTLE SWALLEN ABD IT HURTS OFF N ON BUT WHEN IT HURTS IT REALLY HURTS. SO IF YOU CAN TAKE PAIN THEN DO IT. IN 16 BLOND HAIR BLUE EYES C CUP AND IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT CALL ME AT 610 967 0583 AFTER 3PA TO 10 PM OK MY NAME IS CYNTHIA TALK TO YOU LATER. PS I GOT MY MIDDLE OF MY LIP DONE WITH A BAR BELL.LOVE LOTS MWHA CYNTHIA AKA YO-YO

Answer by andrew phelps
Submitted on 12/22/2004
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How bad is it to pierce your lip yourself? I just did it about 5 minutes ago. I would have liked some help, that would have made it easier. It was my first self-piercing experience, I would have liked the experience of piercing my own ears. I was as prepared as possible, very clean, everything was disinfected repeatedly before, after, and throughout the process. I had difficulty threading the ring in behind the needle. I used too big of a needle, a 12gage professional piercing needle. I did it too slow, I think, at least as far as minimizing pain. It hurt, but only for a second, afterward there was no pain from the stabbing of my lip with the needle. Make sure you get the ring/barbell/etc as the needle is coming out. Mine came out, and threading it back through was most painful, it would not go through both sides and I spent half an hour messing around with it as one end searched and scrapped the inside of my body, and I don't mean inside my mouth. It was between the layers of flesh in my lip. This one have been no problem if I had used a barbell or a larger ring. I plan on using Bactine disinfectant to clean the outside skin, and Biotene mouthwash to clean the inside. I hope I've helped, goodluck, have fun.

Answer by JMan
Submitted on 1/8/2005
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IF YOU PIERCE YOUR OWN LIP START FROM THE INSIDE OF YOUR MOUTH!!!!! ITS MUCH EASYER AND THERE IS ABSOLUTLY NO PAIN AT ALL!!!! i've tried it both ways. the first time i pierced it from the outside of my lip and it was painful. the second time i did it from the inside of my lip and it had no pain what so ever. i didnt even know it went through. and ther is no problem piercing yourself if you know what your doing and have clean needles and jewelry. and those of you who want to argue about it... knowing what you are doing and having safe, clean equipment is the same things the prefessional piercers do...so whats the diference?....but seriously try it from the insdie of ur mouth. its a little harder the position correctly but its possible. and evem if you got it crooked its not painful so you can do it over again.

Answer by sarah
Submitted on 3/12/2005
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ok i pierced my eyebrow, all went good. remember, if it's infected, its not a good idea to take it out. see a doctor or something. cuz then the puss cant get out .. lip piercing. im doing it right now. first im just poking it with a safety pin ( did it before) then you can wear a sharp good metal fake one to slowly penatrate and moving the veins out of th way. as for letting a professional do it, yeah that really doesnt make a difference. and who are some of u to tell them that they are doing it bcuz there parents wont let them maybe they want to prevent them from shock. breath in, as you do it. breathing out lets ur toxins, and what not come out/ turn 2twice daily, never touch unless u use rubber gloves, trust me. wash with mouth wash. only listerine. wait 4-7 weeks for healing to be close/completed

Answer by HangingOnForYou
Submitted on 4/21/2005
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Ok look. My friends work at this vets office, so they are able to get syringes. The syringes come in a little vile of alcohol and they come in different sizes. One night we had a piercing party thing, and one of the girls did my nipples. I basically boiled the needle then soaked it in alcohol for a while later, in hopes that I will use them again. We did my friends labret that night, but it took us 30 mins to get the syringe through because the dork didn't have anything to put in there. We used a post for the time being and then he went out the next day to get something else. Basically, my point is is that all you really need to get the perfect piercing is a really clean syringe. Wash the area with some alcohol and pop that baby through! I totally recommend the nipples...fun! But yeah I'm planning on getting my labret tonite, using the same syringes. Now, some of you might be all EWWWW YOURE GOING TO GET INFECTED. My nipples are fine because I used this saline solution that I used on my nose. Really people, thats all you need for cleaning. But if you are getting a job...don't get it done. I have to get one soon, but I might have to take out my nose ring. I am all for self-piercings...if you can handle them. I did my ears and got my nose and tragus done professionaly. Why waste the money?

Answer by Hazz
Submitted on 6/11/2005
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Kelly Andalusian she was a geek in our yr 9 maths class last yr and everyone well most of the kids(girls) in our class had naval pericings and she periced it herself with a long needle. The next day she came to Skell and fainted near the tuckshop area because the needle didnt peirce properly it went into her and hit a nerve she didnt pass away and didnt go into a coma but now around the belly button area its like a purple colour and it soo not cool and her mum found out cause she needed to go to the doctors so if you guys r thinkin about pericing ya belly button or UR LIP<is the worst cause theres alot of nerves and delecit areas so PLZ dont perice yourself cheers xoxox Hayley(just keep that in mind

Answer by I_amnotthexcore
Submitted on 6/19/2005
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There's stories and stuff but i pierced mine myself Basically what i did was take a sewing needle, tie some floss on the end of it and use ice to numb my mouth [both sides] and tie the floss once it gets through. Its not the pierce that hurts, its when the needle point goes through and the skin has to stretch around the rest of the needle. thats why it helps to ice both sides before you do this anyways after getting the floss through tie it, and then stick a .20 stud or earring to hold its place I did mine at night and slept with both the floss and earring in Then next morning i got up, and took a gage (I think thats what its called, those cone-shaped earrings) and stretched it to 16g and boom. I had my ring But to keep it from getting infected i use a little bit of hydrogen peroxide and clean it out every morning/night when i brush my teeth you can use vodka or other strong alcohol too if you don't have hydrogen peroxide oh and cleaning it burns. but all in all, id say getting stung by a bee is worse

Answer by britfost
Submitted on 6/26/2005
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so, back in april, i pierced my own nose with a sterilized safety pin. i felt the smallest amount of pain that you could possibly feel from sticking something sharp and metal through your flesh. then, about a month ago, i put a second hole in each of my ears with a sterilized safety pin and it didn't hurt AT ALL. i also regularly re-pierce my cartilage because i'm impatient and don't like to wait for it to heal. anyway, i pierce myself because i like it, not because i'm not old enough (i'm 18) not because i'm cheap (if i really wanted to go get it done, i could pay for it) i guess i just like the pain... or maybe it's the lack of pain i feel. anyway, my nost has never given me any problems and neither have my ears. i plan on doing my tragus of my lip next, i can't decide.

Answer by d-scribble
Submitted on 6/28/2005
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to pierce your labret yourself, first get a sterilized piercing needle(not a nail)and put some rubbing alcohol on it. Then take the needle and some rubber gloves and pierce it going from the soft part, going out. Then quickly replace the needle with a sterilized barbell etc. and mouth wash vigorously. Remove barbell and repeat. Some peoples' lip may swell, but this is normal and it will pass once your body gets used to it. Then your done. Be sure to take it out every night and mouth wash and sterilize your barbell etc before you put it back in. i also advise leaving in your barbell etc through the night to prevent it from closing. To all you piercing your labret or any part of your body with a rusty nail or a common household safety pin, the probability of it getting infected is fairly high and infection is not very fun. It is common for it to result in the affected area to create pus and scab. this unsightly wound will definitely impact your social life and will leave you weary about piercings. Just remember, piercings are a form of expression and if done properly, could be very adventagious.

Answer by Breee
Submitted on 7/13/2005
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So, I've wanted to get my lip done for a whileeeee now. I've pierced my ears [1st, 2nd, 3rd holes & cartilage]. I've pierced my nose too. But as soon as my Mom saw my cartilage & my nose ring..she IMMEDIATELY told me to take them out..which i did. I loved piercing my ears because they didn't hurt a bit. Just a little ice to numb it. But now that I've been wanting my lip done..which i need to somehow HIDE from my parents. I'm 15 now. My parents told me I can get anything done when I turn 18. But I seriously don't want to wait that long. So; I've been thinking of doing it myself; I mean..it can't go that bad, right? ANYONE who has any type of information on how to hide it from my parents; the utensils to pierce it with; what works best..just ANYTHING; please contact me. EMAIL: stargazerbaby101@hotmail.com / AIM: SHUTUPuglyrednek . PLEASE CONTACT ME. <33

Answer by freakypaleguy
Submitted on 7/30/2005
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ok i wanna get a vertical labret an industrial and a set of eyebrow rings but my dad kinda has issues when it comes to that stuff now i honestly prefer doin it proffesionaly as i dont trust myself doin it im kinda a clutz plus i have no way of buying the proper needles and so on as my dad once again gets in the way, im goin into 11th grade and ive always wanted piercings and recently i figured since my dad wont let me dye my hair blue i could possibly convince him to at least let me get my industrial... does anyone have any advice on convincing parents to let you get a piercing or dye your hair? ive been doin loads of yard work and work around the house for him and its workin so far plus ill be payin for the piercin and or dye myself but PLEASE if anyone convinced their parents please tell me how (im me with any advice) aim: freakypaleguy thanks for all your help everyone

Answer by simmone
Submitted on 8/6/2005
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i've never pierced anything on my face before until a day ago- my lip. i'm used to piercing my ears or surface piercing or like color bones and stuff. the outcome of that is just a little pain. i've had my lip piercing for more than 24 hours and the swelling is to the point where i can't close my mouth. yesterday, the swelling wasn't visible. i'm wondering if it's an infection. i clean it everytime i go to the bathroom, after a shower, after brushing my teeth. i brush my teeth after i drink/eat something. i'm thinking it's from pressure from my piercing, i guess i'll have to wait it out. <img src="http://myspace-066.vo.llnwd.net/00180/66/01/180781066_l.jpg"> minors trying to hide your piercing-ask if you can go to the mall, go to hot topic and buy a labret retainer for about 6.00. it's barely visible. don't try to cover it up with makeup. i've watched a friend do that, and that night her piercing for all pusy and there was makeup inside the wound. it was actual quite disgusting.

Answer by maymable
Submitted on 8/15/2005
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alrite.. for one thing .. you'd have to be pretty stupid to do it yourself, and not make sure you cleaned it.(im sorry to hear about your friend) like .. as long as you clean it at least 3 times a day, nothing bad will happen. as for teh puss .. thats just sick. but if you get witch hazel, or sea salt, and put that on your peircing for 5/10 minutes, it'll heal it up. i recommend witch hazel for belly button peircings. alrite .. for ear peircings, i would rather do it myself then get it professionally done because the people who do it, are usually dumb frieken blondes (sorry to those who are blondes) but .. when theyre peircing the top part of your ear, they usually do it with a gun, which is WRONG! because you have cartillage in your ear, and if you do that with teh gun, it fractures the cartillage and you get a bump behind the peircing. ive peirced my ears a bunch of times, and it hasnt gotten infected. at all. as long as you have it cleaned. (if you hear a popping noise as you're peircing your ears, dont worry. its just tissue breaking. so dont freak out, and pull out the needle, just keep going. and do it quick) anyways.. as for lip peircing. i did mine myself. it turned out wonderfully. alrite.. as long as you dont do it crooked, and clean it. you'll be okay. you dont have any major veins in your lip, so dont worry about hitting it. mark a spot on your lip with a marker, and look to see if thats the part you want it, then go for it. make sure teh needles sharp enough, and have everything staralized... i have my nose done, but i had it professionally done. but it didn't look too hard to do. just shove a cotton ball up your nose (that way if you shove the needle in too far, it wont poke the other side of your nose) and shove a needle through. then quickly switch the needle, and put in your stud/ring. eyebrow .. no veins. probably the easiest, in my opinion. pretty much teh same as all teh others. steralize. keep it clean. dont touch it with dirty fingers (MEANING, ONLY TURN IT WHEN YOU WASH YOUR FILTHY LITTLE FINGERS WITH SOAP AND WATER) and yep! labret.. well that ones the most painless. do it quickly tho, because the hole closes really quick. and voila.

Answer by Lana
Submitted on 8/28/2005
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Okay, listen. Reading through all of these posts et cetera one thought was in my head. A lot of you can't even spell, or use punctuation. If you can't do something that you get taught in early grades (k-3 are basics dearies) then how can you trust yourselves to do piercings correctly. I know that a lot of you have done the piercings yourselves and they've gone fine. Although I suggest looking into it and thinking about it thouroughly before actually going through with it. That being said and done, a few years ago I pierced my ears more than fourteen times (not on each side--that's combined) a few got infected, but with the propper care they were healed. I got my nose done professionally. GET YOUR NOSE DONE PROFESSIONALLY BECAUSE THERE ARE NERVES IN YOUR NOSE. At least study where nerves and major veins are placed throughout the body, especially where you are planning on piercing. That's what professionals spend years studying, to keep you safe. Do not do your tongue, or eyebrows either. (I'm training to be a piercer) Lips and labrets are usually alright to pierce yourself with the right materials. A hollow, sterile piercing needle, gloves etc. It's always good to have clamps, as well. I'm not here preaching you not to pierce yourself. But do it at your own risk and you can't blame it on anyone but yourself if you get an infection (it happens with most piercings eventually, even if done professionally) My suggestion however is to wait to get it done (until you legally can sign off for it) because your mind can change and you have less risks and will have more explained to you than you could find online. ciao. -Lana IM: x your apathy x

Answer by liz
Submitted on 10/4/2005
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you guys are all dumb asses. don't you think there would be a reason as to why your parents wouldn't want you to get a lip ring? ever tried getting a job with a weird facial piercing? but whatever.. if you absolutely HAVE to pierce your lip TRY to find someone who has a professional piercing kit. if you're in high school chances are someone will have one so just ask around. if you don't want your parents to find out go get a clear retainer. if they ask about the hole say you were wearing a clip on. -sigh- how I miss being so young. but yeah. just cos so many people here say that theirs went fine doesn't mean yours will. there's always a chance that something can go horribly horribly awry so if you can wait, don't risk it.

Answer by :(
Submitted on 10/6/2005
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ok you CANNOT die from getting your lip done ... believe me im a peircest with 20 years experience. I cannot really talk as i did my ear 5 times ... my tonge.. my lip and my tunnel by myself before i had the proper training. But i WOULD advice you guys to get it done professionally cause it can be dangerous but believe me the person who said her mate died is talking sh*t. In all my life have i not heard such a stupid thing! but if u really want to go the rebel way and do it yourself heres some tips.... 1) sterile your equipment e.g safely pins by getting a match or lighter and heating the metal a. this will sterile it and b. it will make the needle/ safety pin go thro quicker. 2) make sure the area around the place were u are peircing is clean. Use antiseptic lotions or wipes or hot salt water to do this. 3) if when you are doing it it starts to bleed heavily, the area around the area you are peircing goes numb or has a stabbing pain in it STOP. This means you are not peircing it right e.g youve hit a vain. Which is NOT good. 4) make sure you are going to be comitted to looking after your new peircings. The amount of times ive seen a customer come into my store with infections, scabs and puss boils is wayy to many. If you dont look after it right... there is side afects but once again you CANNOT die. 5) clean your peircings with salt water or aticeptic lotions or wipes. PLEASE NOTE I DO NOT RECOMEND ANYONE PEIRCING THERE TOUNGES BY THEMSELVES. THIS IS A VERY DANGERIOUS THING TO DO AND IF IT DOES GO WRONG YOUR SCREWED. anyway hope this can be of help and if anyone has anymore questions please email me at ... rockyroadspeirings@hotmail.com bye

Answer by Rae
Submitted on 10/10/2005
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About 4 days ago i pierced my lip in my room. I didn't even really think about sterilizing it or looking for veins. I grabbed my pink safety pin earring and just stabbed it right through. See, i had just gotten back from the dentist and had Novocain numbing my whole bottom right part of my lip, so i didn't feel a thing. But i used an earring and the back of an earring for a day or two but the back began digging into my lip. So if you are planning to get a stud or Labret soon but need something quick and for now, i recommend cutting off the back of an eraser and sticking it on the back of the earring. It helped me so much, but it makes it a bit hard to eat and talk. So far, I've been lucky and didn't hit a vein or have run in with any troubles. But i recommend being very careful if you pierce something yourself. Other than that, have fun!

Answer by Shaina
Submitted on 10/14/2005
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I pierced my lip 8 months ago and its fine, i just took a needle and pushed it through, it didnt hurt but it was aggervating when you got it almost through because the inner layer of your lip is tough to go through. I had my boyfriend shove a 14g labret piercing through it. After that i just left the labret piercing in it until it COMPLETELY healed and i washed around it and washed my mouth out with mouth wash after everytime i ate or smoked or drank anything other than water for a few weeks. Mines fine though just make sure every thing is cleaned properly because im sure its easy to get some kind of infection. If you have any questions my SN is xoxieatgluexox thats my aim name and yahoo chokemimfake@yahoo.com.

Answer by Xx.RaZoR.2.mY.wRiSt.xX
Submitted on 10/17/2005
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hay well i recently g0t the left side 0v my lip peirced about 2days ag0 but by a pr0fessi0nal n its fine no infecti0n nuthin n it 0nly c0st me $50 with the ring n all!! n it didnt hurt that much that i th0ught it wo0d jst a lil pain thru the back skin but it was all swe3t n im usually the biggest w0ose wen it c0mes 2 that stuff hehe but the pains w0rth it in the end even th0 its nuthin bigg.. but al0t 0v my em0 buddies hav dun it them selfs n its turnt 0ut fine n lo0ks really go0d.. theve dun there lips labrette percied n stretched there ears n0se's n my mate nick recently did his belly butt0n lol soo kute.. but it is much safer n cleaner 2 get dun by a pr0fessi0nal but its c0mpletely up 2 y0o but if y0o d0 d0 it by y0orself make sur y0o hav a clean needle n actually kn0 wat y0or d0ing.. well take care evry1 n go0d luck with y0or decisi0ns.. <3.MuCh.LoVe.<3 xxx

Answer by panic!
Submitted on 10/23/2005
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Erm. yeah. im sitting here. ive done my lip once before. got it through. then took it out. cause i had nothing to put in it. arggh. & Ive been wanting to do it again. cause i want it like terribly. yeah. i mean i have my ears at 0g. and the 2nd hole at a 4g. my nose done. & i have my cartilage at an 8g. im used to THAT kind of pain. yeah. and i just wanna know what NOT to put in my lip cause at this point i DO NOT have a lip ring. otherwise id have it done like RIGHT NOW. hahahkasjf. so is it like okay to put in a normal hoop? like youd put in your nose. a clip ring or whatever youd call it. just until i can get an actual barbell or ring? ugh. IM me on AIM at viciousxremarks with tips. oh & i see no one answered really. but are there any terribly dangerous veins i could hit? <33

Answer by Brad
Submitted on 11/21/2005
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I notice how no one answers any of the questions. I'm probably not gonna post back or come back to this for anything. I've had my left side of my lip done professionally. So I decided to do the otherside. I did it, just I couldn't get the ring in after piercing. I took out the needle and tried to put the ring in, bad idea. I got a hollow needle from my dentist, a horse needle basicly. 14 gauge maybe. I'm planning to do it again, but I heard stories about people losing feeling in half of their face. So I'm affraid to do it again, but I think I will none the less. Just heres some tips. Firstly, get a hollow needle, don't be retarded with a pin or sewing needle, losers. Next, probably get the closest thing to proper tongs. Little holes work best, if you want, get barbaque tongs. Get some latex gloves, mouthwash, and some disinfectant pads. Then your 14 gauge ring. Put the tongs, needle, and ring into a pot of water, and heat it on the stove for awhile. I don't know how long, but for me I'm gonna do half hour to an hour when I do this again. When that's done, drain the water, with the tools, and then take the tools off and put them on a cookie sheet, then put them into the oven to heat for 30 mins to half an hour too. When that's done, leave them on the sheet, and take it to where you want to do your piercing. Wait till it cools, put on your gloves, wash your mouth with mouthwash (non alcohol mouthwash). After that, keep your mouth open and wipe the area clean with the disinfectant pad, making sure your mouth is still open, keep it open. Place the tongs on where you want it done with pressure and pulling your lip out, keeping the mouth open. Stick the needle in, look at pictures online to find a place where you think would be good on you. When the needle is in, you can remove the tongs. Leave the needle in your lip, just becareful of the tip of the needle hitting your guns or whatnot. I suggest peircing from outside in. I forgot how the pro. did it for me, I'm pretty sure he did outside in. Next get the ring, without the bead, and attach it to your lip from one of the sides (smallest part of the lip) and shimmy it next to the needle where the new hole is. Next slowly remove the needle (this will probably be the worst part) and as you remove the needle from your lip, push the ring through. If anything, decompress the ring so that it's easier to manouver into the hole, and then after compress it to get the hoop shape it needs. Then afterwords, use disinfectant pads to get rid of any blood, There will be blood, you can count on that. Aftercare, all I used for my first one was non-alcoholic mouthwash, and disinfectant pads. I also always touched it to keep it from getting stuck from the crust. I don't recommend it, but make sure that it doesn't get stuck. Don't eat spicy foods, smoke, drink alcohol, or have any oral contact, or oral sex for 4-6 weeks. Don't change the ring till after 4-6 weeks. Probably a bit after theres no more crust and it's easily moveable. This might help you, might not, you paralyze your face, it's your own fault, you took the risk, don't blame someone else. If you're stupid enough to do it, then you'll have to take the consequences if any.

Answer by Zombie AutoPilot!
Submitted on 11/27/2005
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Hey Guys.. Well Iv pierced my lip twice now.. but both times i couldnt get a ring in, as the gauge was way too small - Basically, DO NOT use a safety pin! Its way too small! But another problem i came across, is that a bigger safety pin is very much harder to pierce with... Im gonna attempt with a regular sewing needle tonight, as i have bought a 1.2mm ring [11], and last time i was trying to get a 1.6mm through. Hopefully it will work! I just wanna say, i did mine both times without ice, but pleeeeeeeeeease sterilise the needle! As my friend was off school for 3 days because hers swelled up, due to a non-sterile needle! And as a tip, make a little dot where your planning the piercing, it helps =D Love to you all X Btw, dont JUST push to get the needle through, once its pierced the first layer of skin, twist it =]!

Answer by Amaranth
Submitted on 12/5/2005
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So of course I thought everything would be chill after reading some of this, but I guess I didn't factor in that I'm a huge stickler for pain. So I did everything, I cleaned the area, I sterilized a needle, I rinsed with listerine, etc, etc. So I'm halfway through, and if you aren't pressing the needle through really hard, then it's going to take a while to get it through. My face started turning extremely white, and I immediately had to take the needle out (at this point, I could let go and the needle was hanging I was so far into the lip) which hurt a lot, and then I proceeded to puke because of the pain. For now I'm waiting it out with the needle in halfway through, so I can finish it, but just remember this process takes a little while if you're a chicken about it.

Answer by Dark Light
Submitted on 12/23/2005
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I had my lip (not to be confused with labret) pierced a little over a year ago by a professional for $30 (including jewelry) and while I think that most times you would probably be okay doing at home IF you take good care of it, I would still recommend getting it done by a pro for many reasons. 1.) It's a sterile environment 2.) The piercer is skilled and has knowledge of you anatomical structure 3.) A good piercing parlor will tell you all the does and don'twhich can be even more important when dealing with an oral piercing However if your that hard-up for cash Ill give you some tips...Use non-flavored anti-bacterial mouthwash often, sea salt=good, soap and water are also good IF you rinse out very well (or else the soap can actually cause an infection) DON'T use alcohol and DON'T use neosporean or other creams. Contact my with any other question at DamagedSpirit@@GMail.com

Answer by shupej
Submitted on 1/15/2006
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It isn't the piercing itself but the aftercare that determines the possibility of infection. Having it pierced by a professional does not have hardly anything to do with whether or not it will become infected. As long as you use the proper gauge needle that is properly sterilized, such as those that you get from BMEShop.com, you will have no issues. Be sure to use the proper jewelry for the piercing too, because an 18-20ga ear stud is not going to heal the piercing properly. I have done several of my own piercings now, and have had no problems at all while following simple guidelines. I prefer to be pierced in the privacy of my own home instead of being touched by strangers that charge $60 in markup.

Answer by Sarah
Submitted on 1/26/2006
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oh my god that last story is outragous. im well sorry for u. maybe its just me but i dont c the point in getting things prof done, all they want is your money, get it prof if its a dangerous one. but ears eyebrown lips nose's , just go for it and b safe. i have 7 cartilage piercings, 2 at the top 2 in the middle my tragus, conch, rook. most of which i did myself, (DO NOT DO YOUR OWN ROOK IT WILL HURT HIKE A BIT*H) and 6 lobe piercings i also have my tongue done (prof) belly (prof) nipple (unprof) eyebrow(prof) lip which i did last might. if that adds to 18 then yeah woo. :P if your not confident about where to pierce then find out first, dont b daft n use sewing needles safyt pins or (nails):{, thast just dangerous. just go look online for a piercing sit ethat will ship to where u live and does not require you to be a buisness or over 18 unless you are, also buy alcohol wipes, and preferable stainless steel clamps. as that will make life much easier n there not expensive, i bout everything i needed for 5 piercings for �15 and there allfine. i ait to sure bout my lip. i did that yesterday and its really swollen and it bled alot, but if it starts to go septic or gets fatter the ring is out in a flash. oh yeah, do not use unslerile or wrong sized jewelery ur just asking for regection or migration. (falling out through the skin) or infections, the skin needs to be able to get proper blood flow or the skin bein trapped will die of oxeygen starvation. i aint no piercer i have just done my reaserch. i am 16 if anyone wants advice on any of the things i have mentioned or want aftercare msn me sarahrenton0489@hotmail.com. becasue i think ive rambeled here long enough. lol. Go for it but be careful. it it goes dodgy.TAKE IT OUT!! DUH

Answer by moonbeam
Submitted on 2/1/2006
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Y'all sound like little school girls. "Will it hurt" "what about the Veins" "My parents don't agree" If your so scared THEN DON'T DO IT. Don't any of you have common sense? Of course there are disadvantages. Especially for your lip. Get it done professionally. Yeah, you have to pay a little bit, but don't let that stop you. Thats why kids have money, to spend it on them selves. Would you rather give up 20-30 dollars or take the risk of paralyzing your face. And don't think that thats not a risk, because I can guarantee that NONE of you are doctors (providing that you ALL say that you either are getting you lip done or already are)so unless you have had years of training you never know what awaits you and that needle underneath your skin. As of pain, think about it, you are sticking this thick needle through your face. Through you lip (did you know that your lip has more nerves then any other part of you body?) OF COURSE its going to hurt! Jeesh!

Answer by reaper maximus demonius
Submitted on 2/7/2006
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its really quite simple, all you need to do is get the right equipment, don't use something as small as a thumb tack though, because your lip tends to stretch back as the needle is going through, your best bet is a safety pin, followed by a nice barbell, preferably 14 gauge as that will slide through OK, you can go to the mall and buy barbells, just check hot topic and pacific sun, and keep it nice and clean, I've pierced my own lip once and my own ear 27 times, i have had negligence issues with my ear, and it has gotten extremely swollen, so once again, just keep it clean, like the guy that posted above me stated, you can die from a piercing that is left unkept, and there are no veins in your lips, just many nerve endings, if you hit one of there it will feel like something popped, and perhaps hurt a bit, and a bit of swelling in any piercing is normal, the only things i would strongly advise against you piercing yourself is tongue, eyebrow, and the penis/ clitoris, as well as surface piercings that are on the wrists, etc such things exist as veins people just be sensible

Answer by hollie
Submitted on 3/23/2006
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MY STORY N ADVICE! Well i did my lip a few days ago, i used a needle [ normal sized ] firstly i put ice in a tissue n placed on my lip until very cold. then i removed the needle from the boiling pan of water positioned it and began the unpainful process. It didn't hurt, there was the occasional ouch but nothing over the top. to help pierce i twisted the needle occasionally. The last bit of skin was a little difficult - not to much, i just pushed the needle and skin against my teeth and it went straight through.It is easy to hide also because my mom would go crazy if she new i had it done, At the moment i have a earring in it however, i am going to change it because the earring back can get annoying. if ANYONE needs any help or advice, dont hesitate to ask me on msn [ holliefox@msn.com ] ill help you with anything :D

Answer by MorbidEwok
Submitted on 3/25/2006
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Your friend must be dumb, you shouldn't pierce your lip yourself if you aren't going get help if it gets infected. I can't stress enough how dangerous it is to get an infection and not tell a parent or doctor. Doctors have things called: Doctor Patient confidentiality. So if you don't want them to tell your parents they can't unless its life threatening/fatal. On another note your friend sounds like a Rebel without a cause and was stupid. Plain and simple: Don't Pierce anything yourself unless you are willing to tell someone and get in trouble if gets infected. If your parents don't want you to, then if you do do it be sure you can tell them or someone. If you can't afford it then still tell someone. It is dangerous, if it gets infected. - Morbid Ewok, Omnipotent Ruler of Webspace

Answer by cmack
Submitted on 4/13/2006
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What is wrong with you people? Do you have any idea what you're really doing to yourselves? You can't pierce your labret with an earring stud. First of all, it's blunt, causing more trauma to the body than is necessary. Secondly, all piercings, especially oral ones, tend to swell. The posts on a regular earring are far too short to accomodate the swelling that is sure to happen. And how are you healing these piercings? I've read that you use alcohol, neosporin, and listerine. All of these things are BAD NEWS. The alcohol is just going to act as an irritant, the neosporin isn't intended for puncture wounds, which is precisely what a piercing is (just look on the label), and listerine is too harsh to use on a fresh piercing; it kills all of the bacteria in your mouth, some of which is needed by your body to maintain an equilibrium. So, for all of you twelve year olds out there shoving dirty needles through your skin, I can only give you two pieces of advice. One, wait until you're actually old enough to get it done professionally. Two, ASK YOUR PARENTS. If they know that you could be harming yourself by piercing yourself, they would be more willing to take you to an actual piercer. So please, before you end up scarring your bodies, at least read a little, and think about what you're doing!

Answer by sdw
Submitted on 4/14/2006
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Foolish things. 1. A sewing needle or a safety pin are not very sharp at all, and so self piercing with one of those actually hurts more and takes longer. Go to a pro. It hurts less, it's quicker and safer. The needles used are sharper and therefore pass through easier. 2. Earrings are not suitable jewellery. You'll end up with gum erosion which can lead to loss of teeth. 3. You can't sterilize with boiling water and alcohol alone. It won't do much at all. 4. Your parents may be against it, but waiting a few years so you can take yourself to a studio is worth it. Research your piercing online and try to educate them too, reassure them it's safe when done in the correct enviroment by a pro. 5. A lot of people self-pierce. Those who end up with good, healed, well placed piercings are the ones who understand the piercing process and who buy the correct tools. End of the day, it costs about the same as getting done by a piercer. 6. If you're still insistant, then go and talk to your local studio, and ask them about the procedure. Each piercing is slightly different. You don't have to pay or have anything done just to talk to them, and you might be able to buy sterile jewellery at least. 7. Research! Research! try bmezine.com

Answer by emily
Submitted on 4/14/2006
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Piercing your lip yourself is stupid. You can develop infections, make it crooked, likely you don't have the correct type of needles or jewelry to put into it, and often will do it slowly enough that you will more then double the amount of irritation caused than you would have had to deal with had you gone to a professional. You will hit veins when piercing your lip, thats why it bleeds. BUT, what that question likely actually meant was that there aren't any major blood vessels in your lip that will cause major blood loss. Also, I'd like to point out something about the comment above mine. As sad as someone dying is, they didn't die from piercing their lip. They suffocated due to not taking care of a minor injury. Aftercare is an important key in having a GOOD piercing. You cannot rely comepletely on others, there is a degree of personal responsibility involved with getting/keeping a piercing.

Answer by oral defecation
Submitted on 4/14/2006
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Please don't take this the wrong way. I've been young and pierced myself with little consequence, but it's NOT a good idea. Without the proper sterilization equipment, tools, and training, you can end up infected, scarred, and stuck with a crooked or misplaced piercing. Professionals are not just "taking your money". They have a lot of experience, plus proper knowledge of sterilization techniques, cross contamination, anatomy, and proper jewelry choice. 1) Ear studs or hoops (the kind you get at Claire's) are NOT appropriate jewelry for a lip piercing. They are for the most part too short and too thin. Plus, they're made out of cheap metal that may irritate you. 2) Sewing needles and safety pins (and...nails?!) are not good to pierce with. A hollow beveled needle is like a circular scalpel. It cuts a neat little rounded hole (side note: it doesn't remove a tube of skin) with minimal trauma to surrounding tissues. Ever heard someone say that skin breaks like glass? Forcing a blunt needle through yourself tears your skin into submission, leading to scarring and a longer healing time. 3) Sure, you can kill some germies with a lighter or some rubbing alcohol. But to make something sterile (as in safe to insert into your flesh), you need an autoclave. Your local piercer should have one. 4) Alcohol and peroxide kill forming cells. They make your piercing take longer to heal. Neosporin doesn't allow enough oxygen into the piercing (also making it take longer to heal). Anti-bac soap is just plain irritating and unnecessary. Use warm salt water (1/4 teaspoon to 1 cup warm water), and soak your piercing in it once or twice a day. Clean it real good with water in the shower. That's plenty. I'll get down off my soapbox now. Thank you.

Answer by JohnnyRamone
Submitted on 4/15/2006
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Self-piercing can be quite risky, those who say it isn't are quite ignorant to the actual facts. First of all: the lip -in most cases- contains veins that if you hit while piercing, can cause major defects. "Proper" sterilization is obtained only through an autoclave or a chemiclave (and if you don't know what one is, chances are, you don't know about proper sterilization), and ear studs are not proper jewelery (they're not made to accommodate swelling, are never the proper gauge to pierce with and just are very "sketchy" so to say). I will admit, I pierced my own lip. But I also used gloves, proper needles, proper jewelery and I'm training to be a professional piercer. Heed my words, I know what I'm talking about. By the way: safety pins are NOT proper to pierce with... They're not made with the proper metal to pierce with/wear (a rule of thumb is to stick with surgical stainless steel or something along those lines), and again, they're not the proper gauge (unless you have the ol' honkin' type).

Answer by pip
Submitted on 4/15/2006
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There is so much stuff that you people really need to take into consideration here. Blood born pathogens being one. If you have contaminated tools a lighter is NOT going to properly sterilize things. The other is long term effects such as this, http://encyc.bmezine.com/?Gum_erosion, which will eventually lead to tooth loss. An ear piercing stud will lead to this much faster and also has risks of growing into your lip, http://encyc.bmezine.com/?Embedded_Labret which will then have to be surgically removed. I really recommend going to a professional, and if you aren't old enough wait. Or you could show your parents some of the bad images and maybe talk them into consenting to help keep you from hurting yourself.

Answer by treehopr@aol.com
Submitted on 4/15/2006
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Wow. Just wow. You people are terrible. Let me start off by saying that I myself am a self-pierced 15 year old. The different between me and most of you is that I did my homework. You didn't. I ordered the proper stuff. Kept it clean as possible. Researched the complications, common mistakes and consequences of everything. I waited almost 2 years from when I first wanted it to when I did it. You're all being EXTREMELY unsterile, and you're disobeying your parents. And chances are, you aren't doing any of these things as a personal want. You are probably following the crowd and want it taken out in 2 monthes anyways. Wait until you can get it done proffesionally or until you 100% know what you are doing. And wait until you are allowed to and until you are doing it for the right reasons. Seriously.

Answer by PhenoBarbiDoll
Submitted on 4/15/2006
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Okay, guys. Seriously, listen to this, okay? I'm 18 years old. I turned 18 in February. I have pierced myself (only my lobes) and stretched my piercings. I currently have 5/8" lobes, 6 gauge, 10 gauge, 10 gauge, 14 gauge, and one 12 gauge standard cartilage piercing (which my friend did with a sterile, beveled needle. I would NOT recommend piercing anything but your earlobes and maybe your cartilage by yourself. Seeing as I am 18, I could get anything I want do (I have 2 tattoos and my nipples pierced, BOTH DONE PROFESSIONALLY) but I still live under the roof of my parents. My parents will also be paying for my college education. Until I no longer need financial support, I am respecting their wishes and NOT getting some of the piercings I want. Long story short, WAIT until you can get any piercings you want done professionally. If you don't have the money, go babysit for a few nights. It's not that expensive to get it done right. In regards to the person who said they got it done professionally but it turned out terribly, make sure the shop you go to is a respectable, good shop.. also, PLEASE make sure the piercer is competent and knows what he or she is doing! I cannot stress enough how important it is to WAIT until you have access to a good, professional shop. Piercing yourself with safety pins, sewing needles, etc.. and using EARRINGS in a lip is INCREDIBLY STUPID. Please, WAIT until you can get your piercings done professionally or at the very least, use the correct jewelry and needles!!! - Kat

Answer by JC
Submitted on 4/15/2006
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oh my god... seriously. do NOT pierce your own lip. there is a reason why professionals are CALLED that, and there's a reason why they have stringent safety methods they had to adhere to, and not just pick up the nearest sewing needle or nail (?!) and stick a lighter underneath it. a lot of people seem to be asking how they can do it at home because "their mom and dad are mean and wont let them get their lip pierced!" ...you do realise that they will probably look at your face at some point, and see the infected gaping wound that will be your lip if you shove an earring through there. aside from being incredibly unhygienic, that just doesn't look good either. so if the idea of it getting infected doesn't matter to you because you're too OMG rebelli0us 111!! then how about because you will look like an idiot. i cant believe how stupid some kids are to risk scarring themselves permanently just because they are too lazy/cheap/unwilling to go against the 'rents to go get a piercing done at an actual piercing studio. get a clue, kiddos.

Answer by Coral
Submitted on 4/15/2006
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You guys you guys you guys. What are you all like, 12-16 right? First of all, since nobody has answered other peoples questions..if you hit a vein, your face will not get paralyzed, but you WILL know, because there will be blood. and lots of it. you should NOT use a normal earring, because those are usually only 18-20 gauge. By a professional, the smallest they will pierce your lip is 14G, because even at 16G, it is so small, that if it gets tugged, you are risking getting it ripped out. Lastly, you guys shouldn't be piercing things by yourselves anyways! If your parents say no, it's because they know what they're talking about. Get it done by a pro when you're 18. You can wait. You're not gonna die if you DON'T get it done.

Answer by trinityknot
Submitted on 4/16/2006
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DONT THINK THERE ARENT RISKS BECAUSE PEOPLE SAY SO ON THIS FORUM!!! THEY ARENT PROFESSIONALS. The only good advice was the person who recommended BMEZINE.COM, and the ones who recommend you dont do it! Please all the people who look at this. Don't be an idiot and pierce with a sewing needle, earring post, or safety pin. They might turn out okay, but there are too many risks involved to take a chance. If you are going to pierce yourself, at least do it with a real piercing needle (and dispose of it correctly) and read the DIY on bmezine.com. Also, the information on bmezine is in NO WAY instructions on how to pierce yourself. The professionals there would recommend that you go to a REPUTABLE! shop, but they know people will do it themselves, and have posted some safely precautions and risks involved. If you cant spell permission and allow and STERILE, or use spell check (theres a little check box right below the post form), you probably shouldn't be piercing yourself.

Answer by Seth Meyerink-Griffin
Submitted on 4/16/2006
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Fast answer: you can't do it safely at home with items you are likely to already have. To start with, alcohol doesn't sterilize. Period. You can get cold-sterilizing solutions from medical supply companies, but they are extremely toxic, difficult to use properly, and require a rinse with sterile water. (Why? Because if you don't rinse them, you are putting highly toxic chemicals directly into your fresh piercing, and if you use tap water, then you've just undone the sterilizing.) Sewing needles and safety pins are an exceptionally poor choice for piercing for many reasons: they aren't the right gauge, they aren't really sharp (not in the way that, say, a syringe needle is), and you can't adequately clean them. (Why? Because with the exception of ETO sterilization (which you absolutely, positively can not do at home), all sterilization methods will cause them to corrode. This is a Very Bad Thing.) Jewerly is another issue. Body jewely that you are likely to find outside of a reputable piercing studio tends to be either a low grade stainless steel or chrome plated, and be improperly made. Low grades of stainless steel and chrome are NOT biocompatile; this means that piercings tend to not heal, which in turn means that you have an open wound subject to infection. And don't forget cleaning the area properly; again, alcohol is a poor choice. You could probably find a good iodine-based scrub at a decent medical supply store, but aren't likely to have it at home. Cleansing the area properly is very important; otherwise bacteria on the skin could be moved into the piercing during either the intial proceedure or during jewelry insertion. There is no easy, safe way to do your own piercings at home. If you choose to do so anyway, you take risks that range from minor (priecings that aren't where you wanted them, scarring from poor quality jewelry, rejection of piercings) to very serious (systemic, life-threatening infections). At a minimum, to try and do things safely at home you would have to spend somewhere around $150 on supplies. Or you could go to a good piercing studio and get the same piercing for about $50 (Try http://www.safepiercing.org to find a reputable, skilled piercer.) For what it's worth, I currently have 28 piercings, and have had somewhere over 100 (most lost due to rejection).

Answer by Kacy
Submitted on 4/16/2006
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I know it sucks when you are underaged and your parents won't let you get a piercing. But piercing yourself is NOT the way to show them that you are mature enough for a piercing! Your parents will FLIP OUT if they told you no piercings, and then they discover that you did one yourself. Furthermore, doing piercings on yourself can be incredibly stupid and dangerous. Yes, some people can do it safely. Most people can't. Using a lighter to heat a needle doesn't really sterilize it; you need an autoclave (a professional pressure item that sterilizes jewelry and piercing supplies)! Using the wrong jewelry can be very dangerous, as well. You should never use an earring for a labret piercing, because of the sharp inside part of the earring, and if they are just a typical earring, they aren't the correct gauge or length. That being said, I myself have done a few self-piercings. I pierced my own belly-button at age 14. I know now that the way I did it was incredibly un-safe: I used a safety pin that I heated with a lighter, shoved it through my bellybutton, and then stuck an earring through after it. I had to take it out within a few days because I was a soccer player. When I was 19, I pierced my tongue web myself. I again pierced with a safety pin, but at least this time I had the correct jewelry, and let this piercing heal until I removed it a month later because it was annoying. . .probably because it wasn't at the correct location in my mouth! Anyway, you should try to just wait until you are 18 and can pay for a piercing. It's just not worth it to screw up a piercing. Do you really want terrible scars or infections? Think about it.

Answer by Emily
Submitted on 4/17/2006
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Take it from someone who apprenticed as a body piercer.... piercing yourself, unless you are in a sterile environment and have the RIGHT equipment and the proper knowledge, is both ignorant and dangerous. Post earrings, safety pins, nails or sewing needles are not proper jewelry/piercing equipment to do a labret or side lip piercing with. With home piercings such as these you run a much higher chance of infection in the piercing, or having the piercing reject (a very painful and SCARRING process). And for your information? Heating a needle, using rubbing alcohol, or soap and water, are NOT going to sterilize whatever object you all are trying to pierce yourselves with. In a professional environment needles are put in an autoclave and practically BOILED to make certain that they are clean. Then they are placed in sealed packages where they remain in that state until they are used, generally by someone wearing surgical gloves. So really kids, wait to get it done, either until you can convince mommy and daddy to sign for it, or until you turn 18. Any piercing done with a household object is ridiculously foolish.

Answer by Neko-chan
Submitted on 4/17/2006
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God guys... At least get an older friend to get you proper supplies online. As a piercer, I would like to say this: a safety pin, or a sewing needle, whatever, is NOT a viable option. Use REAL piercing needles that have been autoclaved, rubbing alcohol and a lighter won't do a damn thing to sterilize your needle! It's dangerous and just plain stupid. Please, just read this and do it right: http://www.bmezine.com/news/edit/A50901/artdiyig.html Self piercing IS a big deal. I did my nostril, eyebrow, navel, clit hood, and ears myself. But I did them RIGHT, with sterile needles and a sterile process. If you can't get access to sterile supplies, then well, 18 isn't too long to wait.

Answer by knock knock... its darwin
Submitted on 4/17/2006
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this is to all the dumb ass emo kids that are trying to pierce themselves. 1. a lighter is not an effective way to sanitize... 2. your parents WILL notice, don't even try to deny it 3. earing studs at clairs and malls etc are made from scrap metal and are no where near medical implant grade 4. a safety pin, sewing needle, etc is not meant for skin 5. don't trust sites on the internet for "self piercing kits" ...... ...... and the list goes on and on and on do it professionally get your parents approval (they like it when you act mature and treat them with any kind of respect) or wait till you are out on your own paying taxes and in a state of mind that doesn't involve blunt scaps of metal ripping through your flesh and nerves ]; )> BK

Answer by Keairao
Submitted on 4/18/2006
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Wow, I'm a professional piercer and I had no idea you could 'sterilize' a needle with a lighter. Guess I wasted that $2100 on the auto-clave. I have a few pieces of advice here. 1. If you have to ask on the Internet how to do it, don't. 2. You need an auto-clave to sterilize a needle (there are some chemical ways of sterilization, but none of you - or me, for that matter - would have access to those methods and they are even more expensive) 3. ear studs are not appropriate jewelry for healing anything. You need surgical stainless steel or titanium, properly fitted jewelry. 4. Cleanliness is very important in piercings. Did you know that a simple staph infection can lead to gangrene? It turns into necrotizing facitis, look up some pics and see what I mean. Guess some of you will find out when the surgeon removes all the dead tissue from you lip/eyebrow/navel/whatever. 5. 'trainee' piercers are called apprentices. An apprenticeship usually lasts a year. After that year, you generally get to learn genital piercings, surface piercings, etc. It seriously takes that long to learn what you need to know and practice enough to be competent. A pro or apprentice will not tell you to do a piercing yourself, it's too dangerous and there are too many possible complications. So the idiot claiming to be a trainee probably works at claires. 6. Pay the damn money to get it done by a pro. If your parents won't let you get it done, then wait until you are old enough to get your own place and set your own rules. Basically - grow up

Answer by IThinkSheSmokesPot
Submitted on 4/23/2006
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As the fiance of a professional piercer, and the "bearer" of several piercings myself (2 helix in each ear, 2 normal lobes, 2 10g lobes, eyebrow, anti-eyebrow, Monroe/Madonna, Christina, and septum) I think I can speak up and say that your health and safety is more than worth the money of having a piercing professionally done. Sewing needles and safety pins are NEVER a safe thing to use on piercings, because unlike hollow surgical needles, they do not allow a place for the flesh to go. Instead the flesh around the area is ripped through, and can be permanently damaged. Another thing is that even if you burn or boil the needle, you are not guaranteed that it is sterile unless it comes in a hermetically vacuum sealed package. DIY piercings run the risk of developing abscess, which, if gone unrecognized, can dislodge and move through your bloodstream and can kill you if one were to reach your heart or brain. I have seen numerous piercing disasters, almost 100% being due to improper care and DIY piercings, from loss of the tissue around the piercing, to heart failure due to abscess. I know that kids will be kids, on that want what I want when I want it principle. But it's better to spend the money to ensure a sterile environment and safety than to have to pay for it later in pain and medical bills.

Answer by KAt
Submitted on 4/24/2006
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Wow, grow up kids. I saw one person who called those who say it's stupid to pierce yourself "wimpy." It's not wimpy. There are people who are just trying to watch out for immature kids who don't know what they're doing, trying to be "rebellious" because their parents don't allow them to get piercings. If your parents won't let you get it, then leave it alone. You'll turn 18 before you know it and it will be much safer to get it done professionally in a clean studio. And using a flame over a safety pin does not consider it "sterile." Piercers use chemicals and autoclaves to actually sterilize their piercing equipment, and things found around the home are not even near enough to make something sterile. If you aren't intelligent enough to know what the hell you're doing, or intelligent enough to even spell correctly, then you really don't need to bother with getting a piercing. Grow up a little first, and give it more thought.

Answer by Fallen_Angel_AJ
Submitted on 5/28/2006
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Well...this is stupid....all you kiddies on here who are going against your parents need to grow up.Think about it before you do it. Will you be able to keep up with the aftercare? Take the consequences when your parents find out? I thought I could, but I thought about it and let it heal.Doing it in a bathroom is unsanitary by the way. There are more germs in there than any other place in the house. If you insist on doing it and doing it by yourself, check out local shops and get your gages or what ever you use except earing, to be disinfected by an autoclave, it will kill all of the bacteria. If you think about stretching the hole after you just get it done, trust me, advise that you let the area heal entirely or it hurts worse than the normal small quick leaving pain from the healed area.

Answer by teiteitei
Submitted on 6/3/2006
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peircing it yourself is prefectly fine and easy. but PLEASE make sure to get a sterile needle, which means it`s in some sort of packaging. (i used a 16g) use ice if you`re afraid of the pin. get a labret post, usually looks better and works faster. stick it in as soon as you`ve put the needle out and clean the peircing with some type of antiseptic immediately after and you`ll be fine. I`d really not suggest peircing it with a needle or with the earring itself unless you just really don`t care. do it saf, and it works prefectly and without much [or even any] pain. labret posts ---> www.bodyartforms.com -- cheap and awesome quality sterile peiricng needles ---> www.bewild.com [great quality needles, among other things]

Answer by Alicia<3
Submitted on 6/12/2006
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omg! i never realized that percing ur lip cud be so dangerous, i was going to do it myself, but now im to feaked out. thats an awful thing to happen. well only if its true that it. i mean lostcontinent cud just be trying 2 scare us. i dnt y im bothering 2 leave a comment since no 1 has left one since a 2004. and its 2006 now. dea me som1 need 2 contribute 2 these websites. well i'lljust see if i can get an older m8 2 take me and get it dun by a pro. my mum wnt let me hav it done. anywho some1 reply 2 this. and if kinda confusing here cuz some ppl are saying its great 2 do it urself, and some ppl are like no way u stupid nerd! I guess u need 2 make ur own mind up, and decide weather it's worth the risk, and weather ur cluded up enuf, or not. well i should not rambling now. ppl are going 2 get annoyed with me. o dear, sorry ppl. Well to re-cap i want my lip and my ears pierced again, and my mum wont let me do it, so im going 2 my the decision of whether i shud do it myself, or not. if i do it myself, my mum will go absaloutly bonkers, and ground me for the rest of etertity. but if i don't do then well i wont have it, and i want it!!! thx 4 reading my crazie rambles! enjoy! if ya wnt 2 add me on msn, im ..... nah u wudnt want 2 no, bye !

Answer by checkdgt
Submitted on 6/14/2006
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I've just been reading through here as I'm looking to pierce my labret myself. I've had all my previous piercings done by a professional, who is absolutely brilliant. (They arn'tall just there to take your money). I wouldn't trust anyone else to do my piercings though as i'vebeen going there for so long. From what i'veread I felt a bit worried about half the people here who are so afraid of their parents. Its your own body the worst they can do is forcibly make you take it out, but they probably wont care once its done (been there did that) If your sure of what your doing, then go for it, but I recommend getting something done professionally first so you can at least see the process and realise they use certain tools for a reason.

Answer by SoapBar
Submitted on 6/15/2006
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I pierced my lip, it looks fab! not much pain, a little sore, and when you first do it your lip swell up like mad lol. When you do it disinfect your lip and the sewing needle then get some ice and put it to your lip and wait until it hurts because the pain of coldness will overwhelm the pain of the pin going through, the last piece of skin is really tuff and painful so take some paracetamol or neurofen (painkillers) twist the pin forward further and further until it go's through then keep it there for about 5 - 10 mins so it will mold around the shape of the pin. Then when ou have what you want to put through preferably a labret stud or ring or even a disinfected earing quickly ease the pin out and put the stud/ring through and clip it or twist it tight, you should do it when your alone for the day or night so you can keep it in for a fair while without your folkes seeing it, im only 14 im not a professional so if i were you i'dget it done by a real pro and save your lip from maybe getting infected. Or you can be stubourn like me and do it yourself at 11 o clock at night lol. thats my guide, bye bye P.S GET IT DONE BY A PRO! CYA !

Answer by Jemma
Submitted on 6/29/2006
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well.. it depends whether the type of person you are. so be it if you want to go pierce it yourself. its your own face and body. i say do what you like but i strongly advise professional piercing. although there are very strong precautions to take.. if you do do it yourself just making sure everything is clean and sterile. do NOT use fire at the tip of the needle as this does leave carbon. sounds yummy as that goes through your lip. remember to clean the piercing area with strong alcohol, or say mouthwash. and its much easier if you do get it done by a pro as they use clamps and it stops the flow through your lip (not as painful!) so do take care and precautions. and think wisely. GO PRO! :)

Answer by KS0210
Submitted on 7/1/2006
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hey sup. To pierce your labret (lip) what you need to do is first get a sterile hollow tri beveled needle of 14g or 16g. Clean your lip with some kind of cleansor. Choose your placement and mark it with a water soluble mark. Clamp that spot with forceps. Check for veins. Position your needle and just push it strait through fast. Stick in your labret jewlery (use a long stud for when it swells) and put it into the hollow end of the needle. Pull it through with the needle and than screw on the ball and voila your done. You have to use a labret stud and NOT an earing or when the lip swells the earstud will be engulfed by your lip. That at least is the aproximate procedure but i still recomend that you have it done by a profesional unless u cant ie your too young. Hope this helps. EKS

Answer by Diasflac
Submitted on 7/13/2006
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I am a professional at this, hard to believe. Piercing yourself is possible and can be safe IF you know what you're doing. Most problems you will run into will be the piercings being out of place, you should have a friend who knows what they're doing do it for you. That is only if they do know. If you don't have a clue and are just poking a needle through your lip, well then it's a very bad idea. I'm happy to tell anyone of you how to do whatever piercing if need be, my email address is leannes_punk_baby@hotmail.co.uk Problems with piercing yourself such as infections and hitting veins can be recitified by sterilizing the needle and using the correct after care and getting any infections treated once they occur. Veins however is simple, pinch where you want to pierce with finger and thumb on lip, you can feel the 2 veins either side quite easily... Basically just dont hit those.

Answer by Paigeums
Submitted on 7/15/2006
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God damn. Okay. Don't do it yourself. If you have, you're damn lucky that you didn't paralyze half of/all of your face. But if you absolutely INSIST on doing it yourself, DON'T. It can get infected. Really bad. You can hit a nerve or a vein and it's just not safe. Professionals go through YEARS of intense training on the nervous system and your body and where the right placing is. They don't just put a dot on your skin and stick a needle through. And if you have a piercing gun and you're considering using it. Don't, they aren't anywhere near sterile. And if you already did, you're stupid. And my last note on this is to NOT USE RUBBING ALCOHOL. That will prolong the healing process and dry out the skin. If you have anymore questions e-mail me at buckets_in_lobsters@hotmail.com

Answer by Mike
Submitted on 7/26/2006
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I've had my lips done twice now, once by myself, and once by a friend who knew more about piercing than I did. When I did it myself, I made a few mistakes. Hopefully if I write them here, as opposed to keeping you from self-piercing, I can guide you in the correct direction. Don't use pins. Don't use sewing needles. Both pins and sewing needles are made of solid metals. They both pierce the skin by pushing it out, stretching a gap into your lip. This isn't what you want. This can cause keloid scarring if infections led to you taking it out before healing. It can also lead to much more serious infections, considering the skin you pierced clamps so close to the body metal. For a few bucks, most malls have places where you can buy certified guaging needles, or something like it. These needles are very sharp, and HOLLOW. 14 guage is the default for lips, I suggest that to start. The needle is to be sterilized completly with rubbing alcohol. A dot should be made with a permanent marker on the outside of the lip to avoid accidental mispiercing. Wash your mouth out with listerine or other antiseptic mouthwash before the piercing. Take a cotton ball and rub the outside of your lip all the way to your lower chin with alcohol. In tongue piercings, the needle is inserted from the bottom up to avoid hitting veins, in lips this isn't as much an issue. The needle should be placed carefully on the inside of the lip, lined up as best as you can with the hole. I'd recommend using clamps to ensure accuracy, but it isn't a must. You gently push the needle through. Take deep breaths. It isn't as bad a pain as you would imagine. I do NOT recommend numbing your lip with ice before this process. Through this entire guide I've been stressing accuracy, for the simple fact most people don't. If you're going to do it, make it look good, right? By numbing your lip you won't be able to feel and guide the needle as well. It might end up crooked, through the lip, rather around it, or not through the actual tissue of the lip at all. After the needle is through, the body jewelery should be pushed through the hollow side of the needle and pushed in immediately. Please, please, PLEASE! If you're piercing your lip, at least have the damn patience to get the jewlery to fit the hole. Don't use an earring, as piercing with a 14g needle and sticking an earing in it will just leave it hanging like a dumbell. Go on the internet and learn how to take care of the piercing effectively. This includes Listerine mixed with half water to dilute the alcohol level, sea salt, and other mouthwash products. (Biotene worked for me, was suggested by my piercer) I have a heart murmur so I had to go out of my way to prevent infection with amoxicillan. If you have a heart murmur, I suggest the same. Be smart about it, it looks great, don't screw it up because you can't wait a month to learn and get supplies!

Answer by Toxic_Shadow
Submitted on 8/6/2006
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Hey =] Well reading all this has given me the confidence to attempt to pierce my own lip. Like many of the people on here, my parents have said no, and after 5 months of constantly asking, I was ont he verge of giving up. I've just turned 15, and they told me to wait until I'm 18. But I want it so much that I'm not willing to wait! I've pierced my ears 4 times myself, my nose and my belly button for a second time. I had no problems, so I'm gonna give my lip ago. I just know my parents will go mad when they see it!! For everyone undecided, I'd say go for it, if you have clean stuff do it. All I've ever used is a thick sewing needle, surgical spirits, ice cubes and an earring or whatever was needed. xxx

Answer by Kristen
Submitted on 8/18/2006
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Hello. To the person above, thats very unfortunate, your friend obviously didnt know what she was doing. Ok I am now a professionally trained piercer. Im 21. When I was 15 I pierced my lip myself, back then I wouldnt have known to much more than anyone else. I found a really big sewing needle and used a lighter and heated it, because the heat makes me not swell up as much and as fast, if you freeze it with ice your lip will swell more and become thicker making it harder to get the bar through after. Ok, so then I looked where I thought the bar would look good, because to be honest, there is no right or wrong place to pierce your lip , its where ever will look good on yourself. Then I got the needle and I put a little plastic piece on the other side of my lip so it would be easier to push the needle through.Then I pushed it through slowly, stopping for a few seconds once in a while, and then it was through. I left the needle in there and diddled around for about half an hour to let the swelling go down. Then I pushed the needle out and as I pushed it I inserted the bar. Everything went well and there was no infections , it was a bit red so I did put coverup around it as I could NOT let my parents know I had my lip pierced. For positioning, 1cm below your lip for your centrelip looks good, and 1-1.5 cm below for side lips. Ok so theres how most of you should do it, but if youre going to do it yourself, get proper equipment and bars, do not use earrings. Go out take your time and pick out a real lip ring/bar, they are cheap, you can even find them at your local dollar store. And to hide them from your parents , you can buy clear see-through studs.BUT you have to consider the outcomes of doing it yourself. You should know that there are nerves in your lip that if you hit them it will paralize half of your facial area and muscles, but this is just temporary in most cases. Stretch your lip and look, any places that look like theres little veins or other things dont pierce in that spot. Now with cleaning, You need diluted listorine, (its the yellowish-brown coloured stuff) . Rinse with this in the morning, after meals and anytime you have anything in your mouth. Also clean the outside with sea salt 2-3 times a day.Now for 5 weeks you must follow these rules. If you are going to drink alchohol....no beer or soft liquir, hard liquir only..this means 38% and higher . No oral sex or making out because this will cause infections. You can make out but make sure both of your teeth are brushed, then rinse with listorine immediatly after. If your lip does start to get infected, take it out immediatly or go to a proffesional and get them to check it out. I hope this answers most of your questions.

Answer by LIL_LOCA
Submitted on 10/2/2006
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Uhhh.. im sorry for you lose. but how could someone die from suffocating on puss? Ive never heard of that. Id think it would be her fault for not cleaning herself good enough and not waking up. Most people would wake up if they were suffocating. They wouldnt just be quietly sleeping. I cant believe that so much puss could build up it could suffocate someone. Also you reffered to her as a male by saying "himself" in your statement. Nice way to remember someone that died, by recognizing them a different gender than they are! Were you trying to scare someone by making up a silly "lie". hahaha... I pierced my lip. Well right underneath my lip with a thicker needle. I didnt use ice. And I just put an earring in it. Ive pierced a lot of my body parts and never had a problem with infection. Call me lucky :)

Answer by Kait
Submitted on 10/17/2006
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I've pierced myself 15 times. 6 in one ear, 6 in the other, I've pierced my own nose, and I've pierced my lip twice. I have snake bites and they look amazing-its not bad at all and I highly doubt your body could even produce enough puss while you sleep for it to actually suffocate you seeing as the hole is not even the size of a pin head so that girl or boy above is most likely yanking your chain there kid. However this doesn't mean there are consequences for each individual such as infection, excess bleeding, blistering, redness, swelling, or excess fluid running from the puncture. What I suggest is using a sterilized needle, but first wipe the area to be pierced with alcohol. Then take the needle to you lip and push it in. Immediately put a ring or stud into the punctured hole and leave it there. But make sure the stud or ring is also sterile and you will have a much less chance of the listed effects above if you use a Sterling Silver ring or stud.

Answer by Anon
Submitted on 10/17/2006
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The majority of you people are stupid. Here's why: 1. You can't sterilise things by boiling them or soaking them in alcohol or whatever. You need an AUTOCLAVE. They sterilise jewellery and needles under immense pressure and heat. 2. A safety pin/sewing needle/whatever isn't suitable to pierce with. Unless you actually own an autoclave (in which case I assume you wouldnt use a pin anyway), there is no way that it will actually be sterile. They are also not nearly as sharp as proper piercing needles. 3. Butterfly studs in a lip? I hope it makes your gums bleed. You need a proper flat-back labret stud or a ring (labret studs are better for healing). 4. Numbing piercings makes them heal slowly. If you're afraid of a little bit of pain, don't do it. 5. I bet the majority of you don't even use gloves. Anyway, if you're too tight to spend a few $/�/etc on a piercing, or your 'Mom wont let you', heres what to do: 1. Get some latex (or latex-alternative) gloves 2. Get either a sterlile needle blade or a sterile cannula needle (cannula needles are easier because they make putting the jewellery in easier). 3. Get proper, STERILE jewellery, in a longer length than your lip in case it swells. Because it probably will. 4. Get some clamps so it isn't wonky. 5. Mark entry and exit holes for the needle so you get a nice, straight piercing where you want it to be. 6. Put the needle through (don't forget to wear the gloves) and put the jewellery in. Then don't touch it. 7. After that, clean the piercing up to once or twice daily with salt solution (see below) (not surgical spirit, etc. Nothing alcohol based either). Salt solution: Get 1/4 a teaspoon of sea salt, and add it to a mug of boiling water. Alow to cool a little and use a q-tip/cotton bud to gently clean around the piercing. If you get white stuff coming out of your piercing, it isn't infected, it's healing. Don't pick the scabs. Blah.

Answer by Jenna-Nenna
Submitted on 10/17/2006
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ok. if you're going to pierce anything. do NOT used alcohol, and NO hyperdermic needles. thats crazy and wrong. You know doctors sometimes recycle those. Use a proper gauging needle. and I'll tell you. when you pierce your lip. go in at a slight angle, because if you don't theback of the ring will scrape into your gums. it hurts. and THATS how you get it infected. don't listen to the people telling you to leave it to the pros. they're just stupid too. and ear studs do not harm your lip. its the backs that dig in. use rubber backs. it'll be fine.stop complaining and do it already. add me on myspace if you wanna know more! http://www.myspace.com/emotional_love_songs Jenna-Nenna

Answer by Diana.
Submitted on 10/26/2006
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In response to a rather condescending user by the name of "Shanae", who posted over two years ago (ha!)... not everyone knows these things and the majority of posters here are no older than fourteen. Moving along, I used to pierce my lip all the time in high school, with what ever sharp object I found. It actually does hurt... not bad, but you feel it, and piercing it yourself isn't a GREAT idea considering you swell like a balloon more times than not. The "hollow needle" crap isn't entirely true; they actually use that because it runs smoother. Scarring has little to do with any of it; everything can scar your lip, hollow or not, and it's a matter of whether you pierce it correctly. Feel free to stab safety pins through every flab of your body. Chance of infection is hella high, especially around the mouth (hence moisture) and don't sue me if you die.

Answer by manda
Submitted on 11/12/2006
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dont be retarded and just shove a needle or safety pin through. thats stupid. either get it done professionally or be smart about it. i have snake bites, my septum(middle of nose) &normal nose and ears done 4 on each side. all of which i did myself. plus ive peirced my friends bellybuttons,ears,lips, and eyebrows. if your going to do it. use a professional peircing needle thier not hard to find make sure you use the correct guage size lips are done averagely with a 16g and bellybuttons are done with a 14g &so on just google it and see what guage to get a normal earring is an 18g so dont put it in your lip have a needle at teh right guage an an appropiate sized gauge to place i nteh new hole. sterilize your needle and also your lip before peircing ive learned it is easier to wear a pair of latex gloves, b/c its harder for your fingers to slip. after the needle is through dont wait to put the ring or stud in, do it right after try not to tug on it while doing so or else it will be irratated. for the next 3 weeks soak it in warm slt water and dont play with it(meaing dont twistit too much or change it) keep that in for 6 weeks then you can change it, but no leaving it out for too long for at least 3-6months wow so this thing was origionally posted in 04, oh well, this might at least help one person

Answer by Shauna
Submitted on 11/15/2006
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Okay so i have a problem. I'm getting my lip done and i'mafriad its going to hurt terribly. I mean you have to clean it everyday before you eat, smoke, goto bed, and wake up. It's hard to follow would if you miss a step? Does that make it worse? You have to do this for the rest of your life? Does it hurt to get it done? Sorry im just very scared and i need an answer to my problem thanks. =] It's my first piercing in my life, never had a needle poked through my skin, other than well, a needle for medicine ;x Anyways, please answer me back. Kay thanks. <3 Love. -shauna Email me the answer, because i wont remember this site after i exit it. (MSN) OMFG__yourmom@hotmail.com Email me please. Thanks.

Answer by Beks
Submitted on 11/21/2006
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After reading through the majority of these posts, I have to say that I'm disgusted. As a professional body piercer, I am totally taken aback my the way in which people are going about their DIY piercings. I am a supporter of DIY piercings, but I think that they have to be carried out for personal/ ritualistic reasons rather than just to save money. Equipment is of upmost importance, just to start you'll ne at least 5 pairs of surgical gloves, clamps and proper piercing needles, these can all be obtained quite cheaply online ALTHOUGH if you invest in the CORRECT equipment and sterilisation apparatus then it's actually cheaper to get it done professionally. I'm glad for those of you that have self pierced and not had any nasty come back, but please in future don't take the risk, is it really worth it? After all it's your health versus aesthetics, whats more important? I do all my own piercings but under controlled and sterile conditions, please dont use safety pins!! For more info and stories check out this web site www.bmezine.com

Answer by steph..
Submitted on 12/2/2006
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heyy if you all are wondering about veins its very unlikely u will hit one.. there are only two in your lip in the middle.. if youre piercing at the side(s) youre okay just be little more careful in the middle. good luck to you all :) you're alright as long as you know what youre doing, how to steralize your needle and keep your peircing clean. im peiring my lip 2night (snakebites) and the thing is if youre confident you will do a better job.. just dont be nervous.. get it over with and everything is fine.. if youre not good with pain you can buy numbing patches or just use ice or ambesol. mske shure you strelize the needle with a lighter (but dont deform the needle) and dip it in peroxide or alchohal. kthx good luckk :)

Answer by Shelby
Submitted on 12/22/2006
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Guys, DO NOT BE STUPID. People who think they're "sterilising" a safety pin with a lighter are beyond stupid. Lighters do NOT sterilise, in fact they make things much dirtier! Safety pins are not suitable- they are made from cheap metal. Think about it- if it RUSTS by coming into contact with water, why would you put it in your body? An earring post is not suitable jewelry. It is too small, too dirty, and not suited shape-wise (it is much too short for ANYTHING but earlobes). Sewing needles MIGHT be made out of suitable material, but it is too small and not hollow. By the way- there's a reason professional piercers (which none of you have the capacity to be, it seems) use hollow needles. Solid needles cause trauma and give you bad, bad, bad results. Trust me. I did mine with a sewing needle and my lip blew up in size. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v105/RanaRose/Picture4.jpg That was my lip- FROM A SIDE VIEW. and if you think I was just sticking my lip out....no. That was with my mouth closed. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v105/RanaRose/Picture2.jpg That was a front view. My lip stayed like that for days, it hurt horribly, and I thought it was going to be like that forever. Stop being so cheap and save up your money. And if it's because your parents won't let you, wait! Often times they'll come around if you do your research and know what you're talking about...although currently, I APPLAUD any parents of you guys who aren't letting you. If you can't even use proper spelling and grammar, you certainly can't take care of a piercing. (by the way- I'm fifteen. you guys make us all look bad). darkranarose@yahoo.co.uk is my email. I'm sure I'll get hate mail for telling the truth. By the way- do your research, and do it somewhere that knows what they are talking about. www.bmezine.com is a good place to start.

Answer by Lise
Submitted on 1/2/2007
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You guys are all idiots. Piercing anything on your body yourself, with the exception of ear lobes, is extremely stupid and dangerous. For one, most of you use safety pins of other unsafe pointy things that are porous and made of compound metals. This poses a problem because is you heat up compound metals like you guys are fond of doing with lighters, it breaks down the different metals which means that when you pierce a part of your body with whatever it was you heated that little metal shavings get inside the pierced hole and into your body and bloodstream. Also, as for the porous thing...even if you clean it with soap and water or alcohol, it will never become sterile. Ever. It costs about 20-40 bucks to get your lips pierced professionally, so it's not like it's going to break you wallet getting it pierced. It's safer and the risk of infection isn't as great. If you pierce any part of your body yourself, with the exception of ear lobes, you deserve for that part of your body to fall off, if you ask me. You deserve what you get.

Answer by leeny
Submitted on 1/15/2007
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it is not bad at all, trust me [: when i pierced it, i didn't even sterilize the needle and it never got infected or anything.. but i suggest to do. anyways if you go slower it might hurt a little more than shoving the needle in faster but yeah. i would go do some research before anything.. but its really not that bad and when i had it for the first couple of weeks i used a regular earring so its not that bad.. and there really isn't a specific you have to pierce it by, but the closer to the bottom lip the better. and if you do decide to pierce it make sure to buy anti-bacterial soap and q-tips -- wash it about 2 times a day for like 2 weeks or so and it should be good and not infected at all.. Ive had been done for about 5 months now and its okay.

Answer by grizzly
Submitted on 1/27/2007
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okay kids. here's how it goes: disinfect the area, disinfect the needle(it can be a sewing needle, it doesn't matter), the ring, etc. you don't have to numb the area, it doesn't hurt that much. don't be a pansy. you might want to slant it upwards going in if you want a ring, it makes it easier to put rings in. the last bit of skin is the toughest and heals fast- don't lose the inside hole. ice it after to relieve swelling. don't take it out for the first two weeks. keep it ANTISEPTIC. hospital-clean. neosporin is good if it gets sore. and you're good. ok? i'vegot two in my lower lip, both on the left side. i did them a week apart from each other last year. they're great, fully healed, beautiful, and i love them. and if anyone's wondering about piercing the nose, it;s harder. if it's through the side, do it yourself. septum: get it done. have fun.

Answer by thesucidalbytchuwillhaveaproblemwith
Submitted on 2/6/2007
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dont listen 2 everyone else it doesnt hurt 2 pierce ur lip or libret pierced by urself i did them both i have both sides of my lip and my libret and i pierced my tongue and my belly button by myself and i didnt get them infected and i didnt have to take them out or anything if i didnt want my mom 2 see i just put a retainer in it...and yeah im 18 and i could have got them done professionally but i didnt wanna spend my money on stupid things like that when i could do it by myself...(for free) and yeah well if u have any questions or anything email me at lizze_luvs_logan@yahoo.com and ask for liz's advise and label it Questions for liz...cuz my lil sister uses my email 2 xx liz

Answer by Lord Gregory D. Johnson.
Submitted on 2/12/2007
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"Also, expect about 2 weeks for the piercing to heal, in the mean time do not play with the piercing, do not remove the labret." 6-8 weeks is the safest. "My friend died piercing her lip.....she got an infection in her mouth and she didnt get it treated and then one night the puss build up into her throat and she suffocated.......it was devastating considering her parents ha d told her that they would have it professionally peirced, yet she wanted to be like one of our other friends who had done it himself.. SO DONT BE AN IDIOT...AND GET IT DONE BY A PRO... AND IF YOU CANT TOO BAD WAIT TILL YOUR 18.." She should've gotten it treated. The problem wasn't her infection, it was her lack of productiveness. As far as everyone else goes Do what thou wilt. http://www.myspace.com/kadavermn

Answer by SUPERsascha
Submitted on 2/27/2007
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I've had my nose done professionally and it doesn't hurt but im doing my lip like right now... i have the ice on it and everything... i know what im doing cuz i have pierced all my ears by myself and my web... i have a safety pin and i just sterilized it and i sterilized the loop.. i have a 16 gauge pin and a 16 gauge loop so i wont have to do any stretching thank god... and if your going to stretch your wholes do it your self its way easier i have... and for all you people who say piercing yourself by your self is stupid well how else are we gonna get it done when my parents wont sign for me. and if your gonna pierce something and need advice add me. screw.u73@hotmail.com

Answer by Brittney
Submitted on 3/11/2007
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Um, if your lip gets THAT infected and you die from it I can promise you and everyone else that there WILL be time to save yourself form dying and getting help. You might have to get your lip cut off or something, but I doubt you'll die. Anyways, I've pierced my lip twice and the only thing that really was 'pain' was the first and last layers. But if your willing to just shut your eyes and push the darn needle through, then you can easily get through that. I've also pierced my nose twice, but I had to let it close up to hide it from my parents. I have the web under my tongue pierced as well. I love that piercing and I will never take it out or let it close up. I've done all of those myself, but if i had the money or a chance to, I'd definately get it done professionally first.

Answer by Heatherr
Submitted on 3/14/2007
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I don't think piercing yourself is dangerous at all! (i've done both eyebrows, snakebites, and several earlobes on myself) As long as you take the right precautions when doing it, everything should be ok. Use the right type of needle and for god's sake, sterilize it! Do NOT use an earring or a safety pin to do this, earring posts may seem like a good temporary idea, but they're too low of a gauge to be effective, which also goes for safety pins. Buy a real piercing, and as for the needle, go to a craft store or something and pick up a set of needles with different sizes so you know what's best for your piercing and don't have to go out and buy another needle if you realize the one you used isn't going to cut it. Also, use a clean workspace, wear gloves or something, and make sure you clean the area you're planning on piercing. For lip piercings, make sure you rinse out your mouth! Also, i used some ambesol on the outside of my lip to numb the pain, which i hadn't done on the previous piercings, and it turned out that it really helped, so i'd pick up some ambesol (or equivalent) at the drugstore... The most important thing is to make sure it doesn't get infected. Watch out for it during the initial swelling period, and when you eat, try not to be too messy (obviously) and remember to clean it afterwards. :D and if you have any questions or whatever... www.myspace.com/82590859 ^^

Answer by Trip
Submitted on 4/30/2007
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I pierced my labret just the other night...It doesn't hurt at all...I thought it was infected so I took it out for a couple of day,let it get better...It did and i put it back it...I am getting scared about the who did i do it right thing and sis I hit a vain or nerve...Ever since i pierced it,whenever I lay down I feel like all the blood is gonig ot my head and I will get a headache and my gans(sp?) are swollen...but my mmo said all those symptoms will probably just go away,and everything with go fine again...I also have been noticing everyone and a while it feels as if pins and needles are rushing around my piercing and up to my lip...Is that normal?I am very scared but i don't want to take it out....Please answer me! x0xluvzzx0x

Answer by Tara 18
Submitted on 5/3/2007
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Look right, After reading this message board last night, i decided to go for it and pierce my own lip. THIS IS THE WORST MISTAKE I HAVE EVER MADE. I sterilized the needle, wore plastic gloves, AND I put a new, clean sterile labret stud in. Although the actually piercing went quite well, i woke up this morning and my lip has tripled in size and is definitely infected. ( i know this because clear liquid is starting to seep out )... AFTER ONLY 12 HOURS. My boyfriend went to a local piercing studio in Newcastle UK, he came home and its not swollen and its perfect. I have taken the stud out, and i have a doctors appointment in the morning to get anti-biotics. DO NOT PIERCE YOUR OWN LIP. GO TO A PROFESSIONAL. Its only between 15 and 20 pounds. If you cant afford it, don't get it done.

Answer by Shreddy
Submitted on 5/6/2007
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Go to a ranch supply place. and go to the section where they sell needles for vcaccinating horses, find one thats either 14, or 16 gauge. whichever you want. they are sterile, and only 25 cents. it's best to have an INTELLIGENT friend do it. make sure they understand whats going on, get gloves and a cork to push the needle into after its through your lip. make sure its not too low/high, draw a dot with a marker. have your lip held out with a cork behind it slightly inside your mouth push the needle into it in one smooth but fast move. its best to have it PROFESSIONALLY done to get the RIGHT jewlry etc. although earring posts and other things like safety pins will work, they're risky... good luck!

Answer by Kaitlin
Submitted on 5/11/2007
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I have pierced many things on my body myself. Lip, Septum, Gauges (Now at 1 in.), Belly Button, etc. It's all how you take care of the things you pierce. Yes, while it isn't a good idea to pierce things on your body because of the infections there are many things you can do to prevent them. There are certain ways to care for things that you have pierced to prevent all things bad. I am now becoming a professional piercer and it is how you look at things. But my best recommendation is do not pierce yourself. If you can not pay for it and you do not have permission to do it from a parent than it is not in your best interest. There are complications that do tend to go wrong, not to all, but you could be one of the few that this complication may act upon. As for the question. - When I pierced my lip it did hurt. When you hear about a piercing not hurting please do not believe that. It's all about a pain tolerance level. Anyways, It swelled and it pusses. I used anti-bacterial soap to clean thoroughly and I've had my piercing since.

Answer by <3.Freya.<3
Submitted on 5/31/2007
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Hey I Peirced My Own Labret On Monday... And Its Now Thursday... It Went Really Well I Just Used A Needle And Ice... And After 3 Days I Could Take It Out Long Enough To Eat Dinner With My Parents So That They Didnt See It, Im 14 So My Mum Would Go Crazy.. I Bort Ear Care Lotion From Clairs And The Lady There Said She Used It On Her Lip And It WasFine And Mine Is Good So Far! It Looks Great!.. I Swelled A Bit But You Couldnt Really Notice It Unless You Looked Really Hard. And It Didnt Hurt Doing It But It Hurt Afterwards, I Have To But Food In The Side Of My Mouth, Im Planning On Getting A Labret Stud Asap Have Fun <-<3-<< If You Wanna Know More Add Me On Myspace www.myspace.com/cox_always_rox

Answer by Ashley
Submitted on 6/7/2007
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My advice is: If your parents say no, THEN DON'T DO IT. What's the point of having a piercing that you have to hide? Wait until you can gain their acceptance and then let them take you. I was lucky enough to have my mom let me start getting piercings at 14. Granted, it costs ALOT at most places; there are [good] places that only charge about $20. I got my nose for $15 and it's fine. Just look around. Try to let your parents know this is what you want, and don't just say "because it's cool" or "everyone's doing it!" If those are the only reasons you want them then you probably don't need a piercing anyway. Eventually they will cave and take you, but if not, I'm sure 18 isn't that long away!

Answer by IAMGOD
Submitted on 6/27/2007
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I peirced my own lip, twice, snakebites. I first cleaned the area around my lip with an alchol wipe. I took a sewing needle, heated it with a lighter and then wiped it with an alchol wipe. I then got a ruler and lined it up where i wanted my peircing and put 2 pen dots where i wanted the peircing. I then checked if they are in line and in place. Then, I took the needle (try a fairly large needle) and twisted though the skin until it was through the skin and pushed through the lip and out the other side( sometimes its tricky to get the needle through the inside skin). Take it out straight away and get a earring post (steralised like the needle was) and twist into the hole. eventualy (may take a couple of trys) it will go through. Leave the earring post in over night to stretch the hole, and in the morning remove it. Then take your steralised labret and twist into the hole until though, clean around and on the peircing, done. Try not too touch the peircing for the next few weeks and clean after smoking, eating or drinking anything other than water. Oh, and it DOES NOT HURT. x

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Question by FABS
Submitted on 1/19/2004
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HOW BAD IS IT TO PIERCE YOUR LIP BY YOURSELF?

Answer by thughitter
Submitted on 1/31/2004
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i'vedone it my self 3 times now, and it doesn't hurt one bit, do it with or with out ice doesn't hurt, any and i haven't come acrosst any probs so idk yet

Answer by minimosher
Submitted on 2/5/2004
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you got any tips?

Answer by DeeDee
Submitted on 2/11/2004
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I have my "labret" (which is the actual term) for 2 years now. I believe it should be done by a professional and in a sterile environment.

Answer by xXxpunkxXx
Submitted on 2/16/2004
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i haven't pierced my lip yet but i am planing on it...if ur interested, i pierced my nose and that doesnt't hurt AT ALL! and i love it i would do it again in a heart beat.

Answer by Ashley
Submitted on 2/13/2004
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I plan on doing my lip by myself and what should I use to do it?

Answer by Sara
Submitted on 2/19/2004
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When piercing your lip, is it okay to put a regular earring that you put in your ear in it until you are capable of getting a labret?

Answer by amanda
Submitted on 2/21/2004
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NEVER EVER PUT A NORMAL POST IN!!! VISIT BMEZINE.COM TO FIND OUT WHY!

Answer by your emo tastic
Submitted on 2/22/2004
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im afraid of hitting a vein , is that possible ? Im wanting to do it on the side .

Answer by melissa
Submitted on 2/23/2004
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i did mine last night. I sterilized the needle and the ear ring (i used an ear ring post, for now) and then i just poked it through. It didn't bleed or hurt or anything. Now it hurts and its swollen, but thats just temporary. It's totally worth it. The only problem I had is that its a little out of place on the lip but oh well.

Answer by StrangeLittleGirl
Submitted on 2/24/2004
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you people really need to sort yourselves out if you're too tight to pay to have piercings done correctly. i hope you all get infections and lose body parts!

Answer by Sicky
Submitted on 2/28/2004
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It's not good to pierce your lip by yourself without the proper equipment. If you use the proper gauge piercing needle, you sterilize it, and you do everything right, you're fine. But it's really hard to do. I got my lip done for $45... come on it's not that expensive. Most people can make that much in one day! HA!

Answer by pete
Submitted on 3/2/2004
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I'm getting my lip pierced even thow my parents dont want me to, and they told me not to get it and that im not aloud all that stuff.. but the way i see it is , that its my body i should be able to do what ever i want with my own body. Im getting it profeesnioly done by my friend

Answer by Evan
Submitted on 3/9/2004
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i pierced my own ears a few weeks ago and it did not hurt one but i got a needle and sterilized it then numbed up my ear and put the needle through i would do it again in a heart beat!!

Answer by bloodluver
Submitted on 3/10/2004
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I Want To Know What I Would Need To Pierce My Labret At Home Please Tell Me I Need To Know?!

Answer by Luci Ferre
Submitted on 3/13/2004
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I did mine, and all I used was a safety pin and some anbesol (numbing stuff). It didn't hurt at all, but you have to be quick about putting the labret in, because it closes up really fast.

Answer by Marduk-Kurios
Submitted on 3/13/2004
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Guys.. A saftey pin and an ear ring works for labrets.. It's with I used for my lip 3 times.. No veins in the lip so no worries there.. Just make sure it's straight.. :-\

Answer by me
Submitted on 3/15/2004
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i just read this thing and i was like wat the hey all do it so i did it the only hard part is the last bit of the skin on the inside of ur lip but make shur u have a sharp needle cuz it sucks with out 1 i found that out the hard way

Answer by amy
Submitted on 3/16/2004
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I am planning on doing mine myself somtime soon and i need to know where exactly where to pierce it. any tips?

Answer by Diabolic-Boy
Submitted on 3/22/2004
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Im piercing my lip and my eyebrow pretty soon so i need to know what i need so i can do it.

Answer by cdenton140
Submitted on 3/26/2004
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I`d reccomend for anyone who is brave enough to do it. It really doesnt hurt. I did mine in my bathroom at 2:30 in the mornin with a nail and it doesnt hurt at all plus its never even gotten infected and it wont as long as you keep it clean..In other words GO FOR IT

Answer by abby
Submitted on 3/26/2004
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I'm piercing my eyebrow myself and i want to know if it is dangerous. i am also planning on piercing my lip, is that dangerous?

Answer by goth_girly666
Submitted on 3/29/2004
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i really wanna pierce my lip. does it hurt and how can i stop it infectin? please help me out here fanx.

Answer by benn
Submitted on 3/29/2004
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i just pierced my labret a few days ago with a sewing needle and put in a normal earring that they used to pierce my ears so i figured that was ok...and its fine, didnt' swell, didn't hurt, and it looks fine...doing it yourself is fine as long as your not a moron

Answer by FoxxyRoxxy
Submitted on 3/30/2004
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Hey i done my lip a while ago...I just got plastic gloves,ice,a fairly big needle and a towel and tissues and i was scared of veins but nah there alrite i just went thru em....yeh ud probly say im grose lol but it was cool...and anyways....proffessionally just means it clean....so what if it aint that clean....i can take a lil pain for a few days :) i ended up taking it out but im doind it again soooon as! xx

Answer by Vampyress_Sarabeth_Serenity
Submitted on 3/31/2004
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Hi.... I pierced my lip in the center about two days ago . It didn't hurt at all, so I'm doing it again soon. I used a safety pin and an earring, no ice. Swollen up slightly at the mo, but thats nothing. I say go for it!!!! xxxxxxxxxxx

Answer by Kate
Submitted on 4/2/2004
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Hey so um..what happens if you do happen to hit a vein?

Answer by Nicolas
Submitted on 4/3/2004
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I just got my lip pierced yesterday...I did it myself with a plastic piercing...right now is swollen but it doesn't hurt....I just wanna know if anybody out there ever got his lip done with a plastic piercing....and tell me about it...thanx!

Answer by cas
Submitted on 4/6/2004
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Last night I pierced my labret with an earring. As what all of the other have said - the last bit of skin is the worst but other than that it goes in fairly easy. Now I just have to figure out how to gauge this beeyatch.

Answer by Mikey
Submitted on 4/6/2004
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I already pierced my labret about 2 weeks ago but then I took it out because I was afraid my parents would find out... anyways, I'm thinking of re-doing it and I was wondering if anyone had any tips on concealing the piercing so that parents, teachers, bosses, etc don't find out about it. Thanks.

Answer by PoisonedHeart
Submitted on 4/9/2004
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I pierced my nose and my lip, it didn't hurt at all! The nose I pierced with a regular earing and it went through fine, and my lip, i just took onew of the hoops that I had (it not big or anything)and i marked it, cleaned the hoop in alcohol, and just pierced it. it looks great, and i didn't hit any veins!!!

Answer by Triple Deuce
Submitted on 4/10/2004
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is a labret piercing hard to care for i want to do mine myself and from the look of this forum there is almost no risks so i think ill do it when i get my girlfriends permission lol Yeah im whipped oh well

Answer by jacket's mitten
Submitted on 4/10/2004
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hahhahahh you guyes all suck ass if you cant get piercing shahhahahahah

Answer by da so lost1
Submitted on 4/12/2004
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im goin 2 pierce my lip and i was wondering wats da best way 2 stop it from getin infected. i also kant tell my parentals kuz they suck and r mean. im also goin 2 do my nose or eye. so how do i do my eye?

Answer by lyssa
Submitted on 4/13/2004
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i want to pierce my labret myself ,..so do i just use a sewing needle and then just put in the barbell ,...but then what do i keep it clean with?