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CAN WARS BE JUSTIFIED?

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Question by LIZZY
Submitted on 1/17/2004
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CAN WARS BE JUSTIFIED?


Answer by Googlr
Submitted on 1/23/2004
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NOt THe IRaq WAr

 

Answer by shadowfire
Submitted on 1/28/2004
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NO!!!!!!

 

Answer by Anonymous
Submitted on 2/16/2004
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It depends what you mean by justified? Of course war is not morally just, and by no means is it fair, but despite this, I think it is warranted, and inevitable, and is needed to sustain the free world. However, wars that blossom from intolerance, ego and temper, pride and bullying are not excusable. In these cases violence and ferocity reign in place of diplomacy and civility. The drive to go to war is inherent in mankind, how else can you explain the many wars that we have continued to have throughout history?

 

Answer by swirlrequiem
Submitted on 5/18/2004
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It is impossible to say whether or not a war is justifiable because justice is relative. Morals may differ depending on which side you see things from. However, saying that it is part of human nature does not excuse war, because we have risen too far above nature to fall back on it. Rising above our natural instinct for war may be the only way to save ourselves from having risen above nature to develop such things as weapons of mass destruction. However, it seems doubtful that human kind is capable of this.

 

Answer by nicole 16
Submitted on 6/6/2004
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sure war may not be justified but their are many ways we can help the prevalence of war. By this I mean we can voice our public opinions and we can also use support groups and lessons to teach people about the consequences and the loses of war. I believe that war is evil and many innocent peoples lives are taken just cause one person believes war is right !

 

Answer by bobby fix it man
Submitted on 8/17/2004
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I think that some wars can be justifed. For example, wars based on greed, hatred or genocide cannot.

However, going back to ancient texts and basic international law, there is a difference between "killing" and "murder".
A war based on the concept of self defence, and protecting millions, if not billions of innocent lives in the present and almost immediate future can, I feel, be justified.

However, the military action should by definition be short and minimize collateral damage. Civilian infrastructure must be preserved to the extent possible. Civilians must be provided basic neccessites of life.

In my opinion, the only "justifiable" wars are those which are essentially driven by the goal of preserving and furthuring human civilization as we know it today.

Let's face it, the days of wars fought between competing socieconomic systems are over. The underlying stakes are far greater- and the danger of anihilation of modern civilization much more real than during any point of the cold war.

On the one hand, the world is on the verge of realizing a unifying civil and economic structure since the days of "pax romana". Human life may be prolonged to 150 years or more. Space travel with new sources of energy can supply the world's mineral needs without destroying the Earth's environment. New sources of energy can forever solve the world's energy and food problems. The human race may be standing at the doorstep of a new age of lasting peace- because the basic competion between nations for raw materials and energy may be forever eliminated.

BUT- this "transitional phase" may very well be the most dangerous time in modern human history.

The world's oil supply is on the verge of depletion- atleast in terms of maintaining the lifestyle we are accustomed to. While most countries such as the US, UK,Russia, Japan, China, etc have been cooperating in the equitable distribution of a dwindling fuel supply until the new energy source can be made public and commercial power stations be built, there are of course those influences in the world who see their last- and best- chance to seize control of the world's energy and economic systems for themselves.

Who are they? The descendants of the original enemies of freedom and democracy- resurgent absolute monarchist movements, resurgent fascist and racist groups- middle eastern depots, who would love to take the opportunity at hand to re-write a modern day story of Saladin the great seizing the world from the infidel crusaders, remnants of Hitler's Third Reich still alive and well in certain countries, which shall go UN-named- but think of Klaus Barbie...and of course, certain anarchist groups- many home grown- remember Fraunce's Tavern, The Weathermen, Joanne Chesimard, etc.

These "forces of revisionist chaos" can very easily succeed. A handful- 2 or 3 well placed nuclear devices detonated in the US- with the resulting fallout spread by a convenient passing tropical storm or hurricane could lay waste large portions of our food producing areas, industrial infrastructure- without mentioning millions of victims dying from radiatation sickness spread by the rain and winds.

Small devices- small enough to fit into a backpack and weighing less than 100 pounds- 2 or 3- thats all it would take. The weather system would do the rest. Or how about 2 or 3 missiles cobbled together from military surplus parts literally purchased on E-Bay as "scrap metal". What if only one gets through to Los Angeles? Besides the human tragedy- the nation's food supply could be permanently (in the case of Plutonium fallout- 10,000 years) poisoned.

These are the stakes behind the concept of "preemption". By the way, Uday and Qusay Hussein had a very eclectic collection of video tapes and DVD's. A twisted mind with unlimited money, no moral conscience, on a religious mission/family feud can destroy civilization with one well placed missile- or nuke in a shipping container- or a backpack left in Grand Central Terminal.

This is what we are facing. The best of times lay right before humankind- if we can join together and stop the forces of anti-civilization- anti life- anti humanity.

Abraham Lincoln and FDR both temporarily suspended our cherished rights to save the Union. Now the stakes are slightly greater- saving civilization as we know it.

As for those concerned with "war profiteering"- it occurred in Lincoln's time- and in FDR's too- overall a small price to pay for survival. In the end, all the money they make gets back into the economy anyway.

As an historical aside, it is interesting to note, that the Black Plague was introduced to Europe by Knights returning from the Crusade- Saladin's Islamic army was the first to use biological warfare- bodies of animals and humans infected with Plague hurled by large slingshot machines into the Christian front lines...

Suicidal existentialist groups, and those who wish to re-fight a battle lost 700 years ago - armed with weapons of mass destruction-present a clear and present danger to the survival of civilization.

Society - in this case the majority of human beings inhabiting the earth, who's lifestyle - whether located in New York City, Beijing, Moscow or downtown New Delhi-is essential "western civ"-has the right of self defense.

In conclusion, I would like to recommend a little known book by one of my favorite authors (in addition to the great Jules Verne). The World Set Free by H.G. Wells. Written during the 1890's it makes very timely reading. Especially the outcome after a global nuclear war instigated by certain groups... a Special Committee of the UN rounds up all the fissionable material from unreliable forces- thus setting free the World from tyranny and fear.

Bobby D.
Long Branch, NJ (wish I was home in Brooklyn..)




 

Answer by Jenny
Submitted on 9/21/2004
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I think that war cannot be justified in my opinion so many lives are lost over silly things such as land, power and money. Although there are many people who will disagree with me and say that war can be justified, saying that it can solve problems and can make the world a better place.
Go with what you think and not what you know, come up with your own decision on the justice of war.
Personally i think that it is wrong. That is what i think and not what i know.

 

Answer by Melanton
Submitted on 10/13/2004
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War, can be justified... at the cost of human lives (at the present). How can I say this, when I have lost 2 friends in the Iraq war? However at the sametime, I can not say I approve of all wars (Because of their meaning, or what they mean to the majority of the people affected).
ie: Independence war, I can see as the opportunity to allow freedom from an oppresive body.
But at the same time, from that government's view they may believe that "To rule with an iron fist is to control their actions and to not allow people the chance to mess lives up"

- Basiclly there is not right or wrong answers, Because from either stand point they are correct (when though those that disagree is wrong)

 

Answer by Fizzer
Submitted on 11/7/2004
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I think wars cant be justified, people can fight over religion, power, land or freedom but really some people want more than they need and are greedy. People die every day just to fight for there country and live a normal life. Why cant people be treated equally and if they were maybe a war wouldn't even start in the first place!

 

Answer by Eric
Submitted on 11/21/2004
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I think war is by no means justified simply to achieve the goals of a nation.  I think in this day and age, war is for protection from radicals who do not live by the same morale codes, nor share the same beliefs that we do.  This is why I have agreed with both wars waged by the United States of America.

 

Answer by Josh
Submitted on 11/23/2004
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The war is justified so you can save the lives of others. You should help the lives of others. You should fight for land

 

Answer by ball basher
Submitted on 2/22/2005
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am going kill u all u assholes

 

Answer by florence ngairongwe 16
Submitted on 5/25/2005
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i think war aint justified because most people suffer when nations can just settle down their differences without war and loss of important lives.. war potrays lack of respect for human sanctity..

 

Answer by lana
Submitted on 11/8/2005
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Sure war can not be justified.Killing is wrong under any circumstances therefore nothing justifies war which inevitably involves killing.There is no rule on earth says that a war can include killing unarmed or innocent people and there is no rule that makes a fair play possible. War is unethical and by no means fair and nothing can justify it.

 

Answer by bob
Submitted on 11/8/2005
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war is an instrument of an ideal good or evil and thus war in its self is only a tool it is the ideal which should be questioned

 

Answer by lenbert
Submitted on 11/23/2005
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i dont think that war can ever be justifed as you killing inocent people sometimes just for the acts of one group people in their counrty or religon.

 

Answer by Bee
Submitted on 12/20/2005
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War is justified if the evil of fighting war is more evil than war itself. By this I mean that war is inexcusable and wrong. There should be no excuse for taking someones life because you think that war us a justified act.

 

Answer by fary
Submitted on 1/6/2006
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no
because only for more money u fought war and in result many people have to lose their lives
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Answer by Leonodas
Submitted on 2/4/2006
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Dear Nicole,
  A support group teaching people that war is wrong/ has severe consequences. Originally it is not up to the few people such "groups" would impact. It is (sadly) up to a lead and small party of men wether or not we go to war. Sure people can protest and request the removal of troops and such. But once your in a war you cannot simply back out straight away and say: "oh sorry, we didn't think that through terribly sorry" plus in the case of America they would not back out. Take Vietnam for example!

 

Answer by illini
Submitted on 2/7/2006
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Yes it is justifies because if the wasn't any war then a man like Adolf Hitler could still be in charge and running the entire world by now.

 

Answer by saziya
Submitted on 2/14/2006
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Answer by spaz
Submitted on 3/9/2006
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Answer by fallcrystalz
Submitted on 3/20/2006
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no, but only if you have an alternate solution to the Nazis' attempts to take over the world! (and as well as alternate methods of defeating other past evils in our history)

 

Answer by jane
Submitted on 5/9/2006
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War isn't just i have seen in movies, shows, magazines, and the Internet the suffering of may people, the young innocent children shot down and left on the streets like dogs, i have seen the unimaginable carnage after a suicidal bomber, i have seen the disbelief on loved ones faces when they find out there father, there husband, there brother, sister there granddad will never come home there is nothing justified in that.absolutely not, know one deserves that fate just for  a piece of land or over a religion or a disagreement or maybe someone just decides it would be good to have a war. land, religions and bridges can be rebuild but  a living being cannot, so is war really worth someones life.

 

Answer by dee12
Submitted on 5/10/2006
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I think that war can be justified. War can be justified because war is caused by pointless reasons. Before we take action on war, we need to ask ourselves what is the purpose of going into war? Is it about power, taking control? or is it just simply because someone is angry and seeking for revenge on others for that matter?

 

Answer by Roscoe
Submitted on 5/31/2006
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I think that wars can be justified depending on whether enough is achieved. WWII, i think was justified because quite a few things were achieved:The NHS was set up 'NATO' was set up as well. Pakistan and India gained independance from Britain.

 

Answer by azboy
Submitted on 6/9/2006
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Wars cannot be justified. War kills innocent people and it can lead to the end of human race. The creation of atomic bombs and other lethal weapons has made the wars more deadly. Also war is never a solution to anything. I know that it is hard for weaker countries to negotiate with strong countries such as US, but talking is the best way to solve problems. Lastly, war is ethically wrong. In most schools, they teach the students that wars can never be justified.

 

Answer by Lickerish
Submitted on 6/14/2006
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I believe war shouldn't be justified!!!. It's a waste of time, money and human beings. A losed country of a war must give a large amount of money to the ones who'd won. Also, war decreases economy rapidly and sweeps everything off the area. Think about how many casualties there were in the Iraq War!!

 

Answer by ananya garg 14yrs
Submitted on 7/11/2006
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of course not!..wars are not justified....
i do agree that people need their rights in society; they need to lead an independent life;  
they want unity; they want a choice...but is this how they'd obtain their wants?..i certainly don't think so...war is not a solution to any problem...wars never ended rivalry...in fact they often highlight the boundaries....they even waste resources and cause environmental damages...wars are not a solution but a hopeless attempt to  get hold of ones demands!

 

Answer by David Hill 15yrs. old
Submitted on 2/6/2007
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I believe war can be justified in certain cases. When it come to Bushes reign of terror on the Middle East it is inexcusable.
Sure many countries have fallen victim to terrorist attacks but that sole reason cannot be enough motivation for all of this nonsense. Who's to say the middle eastern countries are completely responsible. We should do more thinking before acting. I think we need war. We need war to be our last resort, if there is conflict then attempt to first solve it with reasoning. If all else fails then we use what should be our last resort, War.

 

Answer by justice
Submitted on 2/15/2007
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All wars are not really justified. It really depends on how you look at it. There are two sides to every war. For one side it is just (perhaps for example if they are fighting for something they own) then it is just for that particular reason. However, it is not fair that the other side came and invaded the other side in the first place! So wars are not really justified in general.

 

Answer by poon
Submitted on 4/26/2007
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just wha

 

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