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Answer by Jenn
Submitted on 7/18/2003
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I have no idea why the puppies would be black. Do you know the complete ancestry of the brother and sister? Are they full goldens? It is not a good idea to mate a brother and sister together. That's really asking for trouble. It's highly likely these puppies are going to have temperament problems. Are you against spaying and neutering for a reason? It's just that there are enough unwanted puppies and dogs already why make more. On top of all that, have your dogs' hips and elbows been certified? Eyes, thyroid, heart checked? Why did you breed them? Are they from champion bloodlines? I don't mean to sound judgmental, but I love this breed and it really bothers me when others don't take proper care when they breed their dogs. Breeding is something to take very seriously. Please have your dogs altered before they mate again.

Answer by Amateur
Submitted on 4/7/2004
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Goldens are descended from Flat Coated retrievers. Flat Coated Retrievers are gun dogs with black fur, but sometimes yellow puppies appear in a litter. Traditionally, these unwanted pups are/were disposed of. In the 1800's, one yellow Flat-coated Retriever puppy, named Nous (Sorry, I don't remember the spelling) was not killed and was acquired by Lord Tweedmouth, an Englishman who was trying to create a gun dog with a soft mouth and a good temperament. He bred this puppy to a liver coated... ummm... I forgot. Maybe some kind of hound or something? Four yellow puppies, all female, were produced, and were subsequently bred to other, choice male dogs. Interestingly, Bloodhounds, Irish Setters, and Newfoundlands are all included in what is now the Golden Retriever. Anyway, long history for what could be a short answer. Perhaps because of the brother-sister inbreeding, a recessive gene for black coats (b/c of the Flat coated Retrievers) was hit upon. Still, that is very odd.

Answer by Scout
Submitted on 1/18/2005
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I have a black-golden retriever also. My parents bred their golden (female) to another golden and they had black puppies (one of which is my dog, scout). I didn't really care about papers, so I just figured that maybe another dog had somehow gotten to her (even though she was inside). Anyway, i dismissed it, until the owners of the male golden said that he has produced black puppies AGAIN! :) So, now I'm interested because my dog, Scout, looks and acts exactly like a golden retriever. She's just black. She has the same face, bump on head, crimpy hair and the tail of a golden. Has anyone heard of this being a rare trait? Or is my doggie really just a mutt? :)

Answer by Shocked and Amazed
Submitted on 3/11/2005
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SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME THIS IS A JOKE??? THEIR SERIOUSLY CAN'T BE THAT MANY PEOPLE RUNNING AROUND LETTING THEIR DOGS GO UNFIXED AND MATING LIKE CRAZY! I AM ASHAMED OF THE PARENTS OF THE KIDS POSTING ON HERE! There isn't anything wrong with responsible breeding of purebreds but most of the people that have posted on here are breeding two different breeds or worse - siblings or fathers! PLEASE if you aren't going to be a responsible breeder and take care of your dogs than get them fixed! You can't let any unfixed MALE or FEMALE run loose or be around another unfixed dog without getting puppies out of it. Where do more than half of the unplanned puppies wind up? In the pound being put to sleep/death. It's not neccesary. Get your dog spayed/nuetered as soon as the vet gives you the okay! The deformities and health problems that mixed puppies and ESPECIALLY inbred (not line) puppies could end up with isn't fair to them!

Answer by Inu
Submitted on 3/11/2006
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There is a website that explains the phenomenon of black or black marked Goldens. I came across this thread, I guess, in my quest to learn more about strange and unusual coat patterns for purebred dogs. I can't find the page and I'm in a bad mood and tired from staring at the same thing for about two hours straight, but I have heard that a Golden's genes are actually a diluted black and that this can happen sometimes. To by jill: I think he meant he had a zebra striped looking pup and a two headed with skunk markings, although his bad grammar makes me unsure. To Gavin: It's 9-12 months old. Your breeder is full of superstition. Never in my life of dogs have I heard of neutering younger than eighteen months causing hip dysplasia or any developmental problems. Your dog will be healthier and more well-behaved, as well as happier, if you neuter it at an earlier age, as I had one that became aggressive with the other dogs over time because we didn't neuter him. - Inu

Answer by oscsw2000
Submitted on 6/3/2006
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"black" golden retriever- While stationed in Iceland, I acquired one of these amazing dogs. I was told that he too was a purebreed and that this is common in Europe. After some further research, I discovered that ALL retrievers natural resessive trait is black. It wasnt until either 1700's/1800's that sibling breeding had produced a golden colored retriever. (normally they were killed at birth much like the black ones in the U.S. are today) However, a Lord in England had a child who adored the golden one and once matured the father acquired another golden retriever and thus breed the two with a dominate gold color. The breed expanded rapidly. Now if there is "bad breeding" the results are back to the resessive trait of being black. My dog is 5 years old, very intelligent and docile. Wouldnt have any other dog.

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Question by hot_chick_182
Submitted on 7/18/2003
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My Golden Retriever has just had a litter of puppies by her brother.Today when they was delivered we noticed that they were black.Not even a spot of yellow,white,or gold.We know their full breed golden retriever because she lives in the house and only allowed to go outside to use the bathroom and under our supervision.Anyway my question is how do golden retrievers produce black golden retrievers her brother and only getsoutside to use the bathroom.Anyway my question is how do two full breed Golden Retrievers produce black puppies?

Answer by Goldee
Submitted on 7/24/2003
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There is a possibility that the black trait in your dogs is a recessive trait. Mating siblings which have the recessive gene could result in the recessive trait showing up.I agree with Jen that mating siblings is to be avoided. All kinds of undesired characteristics could emerge from such mating.

Answer by betty_bj
Submitted on 9/27/2003
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I would like to know if you still have these puppies, and where are you located?

Answer by kaitlyn
Submitted on 3/28/2004
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your puppies are black because there parents were brothers and sisters.

Answer by slyguyfyi
Submitted on 4/1/2004
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Please answer with correct spelling and english damn you all go back to school

Answer by NICK
Submitted on 4/18/2004
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MY GRANDMAS NEIGHBOR HAS A BLACK GOLDEN RETIEVER WICH CAME FROM 2 REGULAR GOLDEN PARENTS AND IT BRED WITH MY GRANDMAS REGULAR GOLDEN RETRIEVER AND PRODUCED 6 BLACK AND 5 GOLD

Answer by cloash
Submitted on 4/27/2004
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i have a female golden retriever who is about 3 years old she has recently come on heat. we have tried breeding her a few times with another retriever but it just wont happen they really don't like each other its like our dog gets jealous if we bring the male around could anyone tell me why this is happening will my dog be able to breed?

Answer by Berta
Submitted on 5/14/2004
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Well My parents "Golden Lab", Had just had puppies from a black lab 5 days ago. She had a litter of 11 pups. The Puppies are all "Yellow, Light Cream". Do you think that if she mated with a black lab, some of them should be black?, One of them is premature and not feeding from her mother, My dad has been feeding him with an eye dropper?.. Anyone have any suggestions?

Answer by emily
Submitted on 5/23/2004
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My Sisters Dog Tasha, is a miniture toy poodle. She just got pregnate with my black miniture toy poodle! I swear we didn't know she was pregnate. My dad was in the basement when she acted strange. anyway, she'll try to bite me if i go near them, but she has to be fed. When will I be able to take the puppies out of her cage?

Answer by sarah
Submitted on 6/2/2004
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I have a 7th month old male golden retriever, and I want to stud him out, but I don't know what age he has to be of.Anyone know???

Answer by tasha
Submitted on 6/18/2004
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we have a 5yo golden retriever, he's well trained and has an excellent temprement, i was wondering how we get to put him up for stud, are there any requirements? thanx

Answer by Silvia
Submitted on 7/7/2004
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i have a question i was hoping that someone might be able to answer it. I have a 2 year old Beagle and she had just began to go into another one of her heat cycles. I also have a male St bernard. He is not neutered. He keeps trying to mount my beagle. The other day i came home and they were mating. she is know pregnant how can i stop this from happening in the future.

Answer by cassandra
Submitted on 7/7/2004
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i have two dalmations. Brothers and sisters. they are both 2 years old and when i arrived home from work one afternoon they were mating in my backyard. She had her puppies about 1 week ago and two of the puppies are all black. Does anybody know why this is?

Answer by heather
Submitted on 7/7/2004
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i have a golden retriever and i bred her with a golden lab. The puppies were born about 2 weeks ago and she had 10 puppies, they are all golden coloured except one which is a choclate colour can anybody tell me why this is

Answer by Bubba
Submitted on 7/10/2004
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I gots two golden retreevers, a white female and her daddy is black. THey got it on and had two zebras and a two-headed skunk. and then i heared that we shonudn't of done that.

Answer by MANDY
Submitted on 2/17/2005
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MY DOG HAS BEEN TRYING TO MATE FOR A FEW DAYS, BUT THEY HAVE NOT LOCKED, CAN SHE STILL GET PREGNANT.

Answer by jill
Submitted on 7/12/2004
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ya bubba you are right you shouldnt have let them breed. There can be a lot of inbreeding probalem sthat come from breeding dogs within the saem family but having a zebra is a little out of the ordinary. I would get the mother dog checked out. There is oviuosly a problem!!!

Answer by Gavin
Submitted on 7/18/2004
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We have a four-month-old male Golden Retriever puppy. Our breeder told us we should wait until he�s 18 months old to neuter him since neutering him earlier will hinder proper hormonal growth (leading to possible hip dysplasia other developmental problems). But, every Internet search we�ve conducted says to have the dog neutered between 9 � 12 months old. Which is correct?

Answer by mullet
Submitted on 8/7/2004
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There is a special place in the movie Deliverence for all you wakkos who are inbreeding your dogs and not thinking anything of it. I am shocked at all the inbreeding of your dog responses that are on this listserve. In case you have somehow missed that lecture, animals who inbreed produce messed up offspring. Come on now, just cause it might go on in your family doesn't mean you have to bring the animals into it.

Answer by betty boop
Submitted on 9/12/2004
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do it between 9 and 12 weeks i did it and my dog is fine and very well tepered. And he is in perfect condition

Answer by sarah
Submitted on 10/15/2004
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why do golden retriever's bite

Answer by hey.ppl
Submitted on 12/8/2004
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Neutering earlier is always better is what I've heard, but I don't know if it can cause developmental problems...

Answer by liz
Submitted on 12/26/2004
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What is the largest litter a small golden can have?

Answer by kkay
Submitted on 1/1/2005
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I'll bet you screw your sibling too! You complete idiot.

Answer by Kate
Submitted on 1/31/2005
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I think that breeding dogs is a great thing but you just have to know how to take care of them the right way. My golden had puppies 9 of them they were so cute all of them where lightly colored and the father was darker. I think that the black color has to do with the Tweed water spaniel that was mated to make the golden retrievers. Most tweed water spaniels are black my guess is that the ancestory of the generations came along with the black.

Answer by DH
Submitted on 2/9/2005
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For Golden Retriever question including breeding a good site with lots of info is http://www.topgoldenretrieversites.net/forums/index.php Breeding any dog without knowing what you are doing is very risky and can cause health problems, unwanted puppies and lot of bad things. If you love dogs, (and you should if you have them) PLEASE be careful and do your research first! Good luck.

Answer by katie
Submitted on 2/13/2005
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Bubba. I do not know why you did that. That was very dumb. That is just like someone having a kid with their dad. NASTY!!!!!! As far as the zebra puppy goes, I would have to go with Jill on that. Get the parents checked out. It could get VERY serious.

Answer by lindz
Submitted on 2/15/2005
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there are such things as a black golden retirver do you guys not watch the westminister dog show they always have a black golden it's a very rare breed to find

Answer by Liz
Submitted on 2/27/2005
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I'm planning to breed my golden retriever when she reaches the age of 3. I live in a large 3 bed room apartment with my 2 golden retrievers. do you think its bad to breed in an apartment?

Answer by pj
Submitted on 3/5/2005
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All of you need to go back to english class. Were your parents brother and sister as well?

Answer by Milanium58
Submitted on 3/29/2005
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I have a dog who has had 5 litters. is this too many?There was: 1st litter:6 2nd litter:3 3rd litter:5 4th litter:4 5th litter:7 puppies in these litters is this too many for her to have and will she get a disease or something?please if u have any answers at all help me!thanks ☺

Answer by steven young www.youngsuyun@aol.com
Submitted on 4/1/2005
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if any 1 wants 2 breed there golden retriever my mum has the best golden retriever u cud ever want his parents r gun dog champs cruffs champs and is frm the same litter as the blue peter dog pluss we have the proof if 1 wud not beleve it if u want 2 ring my mum on 01422 241 293

Answer by nik
Submitted on 4/12/2005
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well I'm wondering i am about to buy a golden retriever boy should i get him neutered as i am not wanting to stud him

Answer by pollydolly
Submitted on 6/16/2005
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if i mated my black poodle with a white poodle what colour would they be

Answer by teebee
Submitted on 6/26/2005
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Bubba, You shouldn't be breeding either....

Answer by NIchelle
Submitted on 6/29/2005
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I want to mate my to puppies. They are golden retriver/beagle mix. What would the puppies look like?