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        o  What was comp.sources.testers created for ?
        o  Why not use alt.sources ?  
        o  How do I get added of deleted from the list of testers ?
        o  What comp.sources.testers is *NOT* for.
        o  Where do I test my news software at ?

Subject: What was comp.sources.testers created for ? CHARTER: The purpose of this newsgroup is to give authors of software packages a place to post in hopes of finding people willing to test their packages. No source code should ever be posted to comp.sources.testers. comp.sources.testers should be used as a first stage before posting to any of the source newsgroups, including alt.sources, comp.sources.misc,, comp.sources.unix, the various machine specific source groups, and even comp.sources.reviewed. Most of the subject lines should look like Subject: Need beta testers for ppmtovcr, another portable bitmap converter or perhaps final announcements like Subject: Done with gamma testing for ppmtovcr, posted to c.s.misc along with acknowledgments. Cross posts into comp.sources.testers are fine when there's an appropriate subject group. Topics like Subject: What metrics do you use for evaluating object-oriented programs? belong in, not comp.sources.testers.
Subject: Why not use alt.sources ? It seems to have been serving the community well. There are those that would *disagree*... Initially, alt.sources was established as a place where the net could post sources that was not moderated, such as comp.sources.unix. Its usage has evolved into a group where authors post beta software in hopes that people take the time to compile/debug them. The author then hopes to hear of problems from those who took the time to look at their packages. This approach forces all problems to be aired in public. Communication with the author before beta testing begins is not how alt.sources works today, flooding the net with alpha/beta software is. Blasting sources out everywhere is not for c.s.testers. The idea is to put people together to work towards improving a package. Authors may not want to post alpha (read that as knowingly buggy) code to the world. Many times the author of a package would like to have a small group of people actively working on a program. Often the author sets up a mailing list for the group members to use to pass ideas and bug fixes back and forth. It is much easier to post "oops, I was dumb" messages to an isolated, much smaller, and more interactive group than to post messages of this type to the world. Another problem with alt.sources is that many sites do not take the newsgroup because they are on the end of slow links which must pay to receive news. With comp.sources.testers, a site of this type can receive this low volume newsgroup and still be a part of the potential beta testing community. And as for the signal to flame ratio in alt.sources... Never mind. :-)
Subject: Is there a list of people willing to try things out ? The following have offered to be Beta Testers on a request by request basis. Do not expect that they will always have the time or interest to be a tester. Their inclusion on this list is strictly voluntary and they should be commended for their contributions. J.J. Abbott Email: Systems: Macintoshes, 72 Megs RAM, Gig internal, Gig external, CD Rom, Wacom Digitizing board, Photoshop and Kai's Power Freehand, Illustrator, Quark, and Pagemaker... Shyela S. Aberman Email: Systems: Macintosh (Quadra 800 w/ CD-ROM w/DAT drive, Centris 650 w/ CD-ROM w/color monitor, IIsi w/color monitor, IIfx w/two-page monitor, all w/ Ethernet and System 7.1) Intel '486 w/ Windows 3.1 w/ DOS 5.0, 6.0 w/ SoundBlaster w/ CD-ROM w/ SVGA (IBM PS/ValuePoint 433DX/D) SunOS 5.3/Solaris 2.3 (Sun SPARCserver 1000) Darren R. Alomes Email: Systems: 486 DX 50 Mhz DOS 6.2 windows 3.1 Apricot 486 DX 33 Network, Novell 3.11, Windows for Workgroups Mac II VI, CD Rom, System 7 Pro X system, OpenLook, Unix, Motif Amrish Amin Email: Systems: 486-DX2/66 with SVGA and a 2X CD-ROM, Windows 3.1 + DOS 6.2 Macintosh IIsi with System 7.0.1 Nathan Bailey Email: System: 486-33, SVGA, Win3.1, MS-DOS, Linux, X-Windows (XFree86). (also DECstations running X as well!) Available to test any and all types of software, especially programming tools and games. Scott Baily Email: System: 486DX33 SVGA(VLB) win 3.1 msdos 6.2 8Mb RAM Jason Banera Email: System: 486DX2-66 IMPULSE notebook w/dual scan color, 8 MB RAM 340 MB HD, 16 bit IBM sound chip, 19.2 v.terbo modem w/14.400 fax PCMCIA type II, 1 MB VLB video card, DOS 6.0 and Windows 3.11 and/or OS/2 v2.1, Canon BJ-300 bubble jet printer. Jose T Banez Email: System: 386sx-16, msdos5, win3.1, vga, math coprocessor. Andrew T. Bernstein Email: Systems: 486/33sx 250mb HD 8mb Ram 386/25 420mb HD 4mb Ram 386/16SX 120mb HD 1mb Ram All have seperate 14.4k modems and sound cards (SBPro, Gravis Ultrasound, Orchid Soundwave 32) 2 HP 500 inkjets, 1 Panasonic 24 pin Bill Bishop Email: Systems: Gateway 2000 486/33C, ATI Ultra mach 8 card, 8 meg RAM, 540 Hard drive, Sony 31A double speed CD ROM, Gateway 2000 Soundblaster clone sound card (Aztec manufacture), Yamaha YST-M10 speakers. Gateway 2000 Pentium P5-90 with ATI Mach 64 Graphics Pro Turbo card, 16 meg RAM, 540 Hard drive, NEC double speed CD ROM, GW 2000 Soundblaster clone card, Labtec speakers. Kevin Boneham Email: Systems: SunOs 4.1.3 with twm or olwm, 486dx-50mhz with msdos 5.0 386dx-33mhz with msdos 6.0 windows 3.1. Mike Borzumate Email: Systems: 386 MS-DOS, MS-WINDOWS, ULTRIX 4.1, SunOS 4.1.1 Greg Booker Email: Systems: 486DX2-50 8Mb RAM, 340Mb + 260Mb HDD, S3 VLB Graphics MSDOS 6.22, Windows 3.1, QEMM 7.04, Personal Netware v1.0 Linux 1.1.64, XFree 3.1 Epson Stylus 800, Scanman 32, NE2000-compatible network card David Boyd Email: Systems: Suns, Dec Risc, Dec Alpha Jeremy Bresley Email: Systems: 486sx-25, 4MB RAM, Adaptec 1522 SCSI, Conner 200MB disk and Toshiba XM-3401 CD-ROM Drive. DOS 6.2 and Windows 3.1 Edward E. Brown Email: System: Pent-66/16 MB Ram/Sound Blaster 16 CD-ROM/Windows 3.1/Dos 6.2/OS/2 Vicki Brown Email: Systems: AIX, SunOS4.x, Solaris2.x Dan Busarow Email: Systems: SCO Unix, UnixWare, DOS and windows systems Jon Charette Email: System: 386SX-20, VGA, Win3.1, MS-DOS, some UNIX Chris Chay Email: System: 486-50 DX, 8meg ram, Win 3.1, Dos 5.0, SB, 14.4 modem. Mohamed Chlendi Email: Systems: PC 386/486: DOS (5 & 6.0), Windows (3.1) UNIX: SUN SPARC, IBM RS6000, HP Macintosh: LCII, 2CX Christian Claiborn Email: Systems: SPARCs running SunOS and Solaris, various Indigo's of random flavors, DECstations (RISC), and IBM RS6k's. X11R5, Motif, OpenWindows available. Justin Clarke Email: Systems: 486DX2-50, MS-DOS 6.2 and Windows 3.1, OS/2 Warp II Beta on Dual Boot partition, Borland C++ 4.02, CL5426 VLB SVGA (1 Meg), 8Mb RAM, CDROM Doug Cole Email: System: Mac LC, 4megs RAM 20megs free disk space 8bit color 14.4 modem. Randy Cutshaw Email: Systems: Mac IIvx, Quadra 660av, Quadra 840av, Apple MPW with C++ and MacApp, Symantec Think C++. and IBM 486/66, 16mb ram, CD drive, P9000 video card tape drive. Visual C++. Jagdish Damania Email: Systems: MS-windows based application, PC-486-33mhz with 4mb RAM, 240 MB HD. Mikael Dahlberg Email: Systems: 486dx33, 4M RAM, 1M Trident SVGA, 500M HDD Soundblaster Pro compatible soundcard, Samsung SVGA monitor. Running msdos, windows and os/2 Naciketa Datta Email: System: Amiga 1200 80 Megs Hard Drive, 6 Megs RAM, SEGA Megadrive Atari Lynx Jan-Claas Dirks Email: System: Amiga 4000/040, OS3.0, 10 MB, 460 MB HD, Piccolo GfxBoard 2MB (EGS), SAS/C 6.5x Laurent Duperval Email: Systems: Linux box (486/33, 16 MB RAM, 1024x768 SVGA, with X and Xview Sun machines, 4.1.x and Solaris SGI 4D and SGI Indogos running Irix Justin Frost Email: Systems: 486DX-33 and 386DX-33, MS Dos and windows 3.1 Alex Fu Email: Systems: Cyrix 486DX-33, SVGA, 4MB, GUS, USR Sportster 14.4. XT 10mhz, VGA, 640k DOS/WINDOWS Bob Glass Email: Systems: 486DX-33 compatable, 8MB ram, 290MB HD, OAK (087) SVGA 1MB MSDOS 6.2, Windows 3.1, QEMM 7.03, LANtastic AI/v5.0 386SX-16 compatable, 2MB ram, 40MB HD, Vanilla VGA 256K OS as above..., Helpful with OS/2, DESQview/X, pcAnywhere. Lloyd Goad Email: System: 486 DOS WIN3.1 Stan Golob Email: Systems: 486SX/25, CD, SoundBlaster, Vis C++/Pascal Teemu Hakala Email: Systems: Sun Sparc, X, 486SX, DOS/Win31 Roger Hakansson Email: Systems: Sun3/SunOS-4.1.1_U1, Sun4/SunOS-4.1.4, VAX/Ultrix-4.3, MIPS/Ultrix-4.2. Non-root access to a DEC-2100/500MP with OSF/1 and a Sun4/Solaris-2.3 Tom Harvey Email: System: Apple Macintosh Calvin Hass Email: Systems: DELL Dimension XPS P60 (60 MHz Pentium) with 16 Mb RAM, GXE #9 Video Card with 3 Mb Video RAM, DOS 6.2 and Windows 3.1. Macintosh Colour Classic (68020) with 4 Mb RAM System 7.1 Macintosh LC III (68030) with 4 Mb RAM System 7.1 Macintosh Plus (68000) with 4 Mb RAM System 7.1 W. H. Hayes Email: Systems:386-87 33DX, MS-DOS 6.2,Windows 3.1, Coherent 4.2.10 X11R5 8088-87 MS-DOS 3.1 Anders Heick Email: System: HP 9000/715 and HP 9000/735, HP-UX V9.03, X11R4/R5, Motif 1.2, HP-Vue, C++ Doug Heimburger Email: System: 486-SL 33 Notebook, 340 MB HD, 12 MB RAM, Dos 6.2/Windows 3.11, Integrated sound, 14.4 PCMCIA modem, BubbleJet Printer Franz Hemmer Email: Systems: 486/DX40 VLB,4 MB RAM, 200MB HD, DOS 6.2, Windows 3.1, 24-bit Optima SVGA card, 9600 baud Nokia modem. Steve Hoffman Email: System: DOS, WINDOWS Alexis E Iglauer Email: System: AMD 486Dx2/66 w 8Mb RAM, Soundblaster Pro, CD-ROM, Windows 3.1, Dos 6.2, SCO UNIX Erik Jerue Email: System: 486DX2-66, 8 Megs RAM, 1.08 Gig HD, Cirrus Logic 5628 VLB SVGA Card w/1 Meg DRAM, 15" SVGA Monitor, Pro Audio Spectrum 16 Sound Card, Sony CDU-33a 2x CD-ROM, AT&T DataPort 14,400 Fax/Modem Ashish Joshi Email: Systems: Sun SPARC station2, other UNIX boxes such as HPs, DEC ... Peter Kessler Email: System: 386/40 with 8 megs, Adaptec 1542 CF SCSI-Controller DOS, Windows and OS/2. Peter Kraatz Email: System: 386sx 33mhz with SVGA, 8megs ram, MS-Dos, Windows 3.1, Soundblaster Pro, U.S. Robotics 14.4 Sportster modem. Stefan Langhammer Email: Systems: 386/486s, CD-ROMs, Video, Scanner, Sound, MS-DOS & Win 3.1, OS/2, Linux, Netware Optical Disks (Maxtor Tahiti 1GB), Personal Netware, Novell DOS 7.0, Windows For Workgroups, Epson 720 dpi Color Printer, 800 DPI-Scanner, ISDN- Interface, more workstations, DAT Tape, 100 MHz-486 PCI etc. Tom Langland Email: System: Several Macintosh platforms (PowerPC, Quadras, IIci, Powerbooks, etc.), w/CD-ROM, HP Tape Drive, Ethernet network, several modems, System 7.x. Several Intel-based platforms (Pentium, 486, 386 and portables), CD-ROM, modems, DOS 6.2, Windows (3.1, NT and for Workgroups), Novell Netware. Thomas Lenhart Email: Systems: 386sx 16mhz laptop, MS-Dos 5.0, 4 Meg, 14400 Fax/modem, Qemm, Descview, Windows 3.1, Portable Sound+. Peter Leonard Email: System: Amiga 3000T/30 Workbench 2.1, Amax II+ Macintosh Emulator with System 7.01. Phil_Lewis Email: Phil_Lewis@CCM.HF.INTEL.COM Systems: 486 DX50 VLB 24 Mb Ram VLB 24 Bit Color 1.5 GB HDD CD-ROM 14.4 Fax Modem Sound Blaster 16 Video Spigot Tape Backup Qic-80 16 Bit Ethernet BNC and TPE Windows for workgroups 3.11, Windows NT, Netware 3.12 Andrew C. Lippert Email: Systems: Quadra 700 (20 meg/System 7.5/NEC 3FGe), PowerBook 160, Mac SE and a Newton 100 Message Pad. Familiar with every version of the MacOS released to date including System 7.5. C/C++, Pascal and basic. Peripherals include Apple Color Printer, Apple LaserWriter NTR, External APS hard drives, CD-ROM and a Supra v32.bis modem Brian Lowy Email: System: 66/33 Mhz, 68040 Quadra 630, 20/250IDE/500SCSI, Special Valkyrae Video Chip, 14.4 Magnum Modem, NEC MultiSync 4FGe Greg Mehlberg Email: System: 486DX33 EISA system, Windows 3.1, Dos 6.2 Speedpro Video Card, Conner 250MB Tape Backup, Sound Blaster 16bit w/CDROM Drive Charles C. Merriam Email: Systems: Sun OS4, Solaris, HP-UX. Dean Mills Email: Systems: PB P5 60Mhz Pentium, 12Megs RAM, DOS6.2, Win3.11, OS/2 2.2. PB 486/SX25 8 Megs RAM, DOS6.2, Win3.11 ATI 486DX/33 12 Megs RAM, DOS6.2, Win3.1 386/SX16 8 Megs RAM, OS/2 2.2 Dan Miner Email: Systems: 386DX40, Sound Blaster 16, SVGA graphics, 14.4k modem. Dos, windows, borland C++ 3.0 & 4.0 development libraries. Karl Mitschke Email: Systems: 386/40 with 20MB ram, 150MB HD, DOS 6.2/WfW3.11 and NT, cdrom 483/33 with 20MB ram, 300MB HD, running NTAS, cdrom Terry Monnett Email: System: Macintosh 610, system 7.1 with a cd-rom Dale Moore Email: System: Goldstar 386DX - 33 mhz running Dos and Windows Perjan Moors Email: Systems: 8088s, 386s, 486 DX2-66, NetWare 3.1.2, MS-DOS (5.0, 6.20) Windows 3.11, Linux 1.1.47 Mathew Mornoe Email: Systems: NeXT, HP-UNIX, 486/66 8mb RAM SVGA (Genoa TurboWindows ISA 24bit color) Thomas Murphy EMail: Systems: 486/33, 16MB, 540MB + 120MB Hard Drives, VLB Video and VLB Cacheing IDE Ctrlr, 2X CD-ROM, SB16 Pro, DOS 6.2 and OS/2 WARP, Panasonic Color Printer Nancy I Nagle Email: System: Macintosh Nathan Neulinger Email: System: Macintoshs Tim Norman Email: System: AMD 386dx-40, IIT 387, 130M HDD, 1.2M/1.44M floppy, Sony 2x CD-ROM, Turbo Modem Plus 14.4K v.42bis modem, Sound Blaster Pro, Panasonic KX-P1123 24-pin printer, MS-DOS, Windows 3.1 Dylan Northrup Email: Systems:DOS, Windows, X, SunOS, ULTRIX Christopher Pankhurst Email: System: Xwindows and IBM XT or AT Jason Philbrook Email: System: DOS, WINDOWS David Pifke Email: Systems: 386DX-40 (w/ 387) with Linux, OS/2 2.1, and MSDOS (with Windows 3.1) partitions. Non-root access to a SunOS system. Tony Pittarese Email: Systems: 486DX2-66, 386DX-33, 486SX-25 laptop, Laser && Color BJ Printer full page color scanner, novell network (via NE2000 cards). Currently installed major software includes Word and Excel for Windows, Pagemaker, Corel 5, Fractal Design painter, Canvas for Windows, Minitab for Windows, and a SLIP/PPP package based on Winsock. Internal 28.8k modem. Access to three different external modems. All machines run DOS 6.0 and Windows 3.1 Ben Pomeranz Email: System: 386DX 33MHz, MSDOS, Sound Blaster Chris Pope Email: System: 386SX 20mhz, 8 megs RAM, 500 megs HD, Sound Blaster clone Christopher Samuel Email: Systems: Unix Ellie Schwartz Email: Systems: PCs on different operating systems, Mac desktops and portables. Joju Sebastian Email: System: DOS David M. Silverstein Email: System: 486 dx50, 1 Gig of HD, NEC 3x cd-rom, vesa monitor card, Pro Audio Spectrum 16, ms-dos 6.22 and windows 3.11 Robert Smithson. Email: Systems: OS/2 ver 2, Windows 3, MS-DOS Matt Stainforth Email: Systems: 486dx-33, VLB, 234MB Maxtor and 410MB Western Digital HD's, CL-GD5428 display adapter, fully multimedia capable, DOS and WFWG. Small (50 user) Novell Ethernet Network. Approx 15 IBM 486sx PS2's booting from BootP's and 35 486sx-25's with 170 meg Quantum HD's. Multimedia machines available. Scott Steen Email: System: 486sx33 with 8meg ram, 512k of video memory svga monitor, cd rom, 14.4 modem and a mark I thrustmaster Evan Stokley Email: System: 486DX/33, 8MB RAM, 203MB Western Digital HD, SmartOne 1440 fax-modem, Sound Blaster, Single-Speed CDROM, Epson 24-pin, MSDOS 6.2, Windows 3.1, WordPerfect 5.2 Charles Suprin Email: Systems: PC 486 with windows and dos6 SunOs4.1 Solaris Peter Tonoli Email: System: 486 DX2/66 16 MB RAM, 540 Mb HDD, Vlb 1280x1024 cirrus logic svga card, PC-dos 6.1, Windows for workgroups 3.11, Desqview 2.42, OS/2 2.1, Adlib Sound, 14k4 modem Olga V. Tarkaeva Email: System: 286-16MHz, Math-coprocessor, Sound Blaster, 8-bit Arcnet Alex Teng Email: System: DOS, WINDOWS, NOVELL, UNIX, NT Greg Thomas Email: System: 486 DX w/ 8 meg RAM 1 gig HD, Panasonic Cd-ROM, sb16 pentium 90 mhz, same as above. but w/ 16 meg rAM both systems runnig w/ ms-dos 6.2 Jerry D. Vergeront Email: System: 386sx-25, msdos5, win3.1, vga, sound blaster Kent Villard Email: System: 100% IBM compatible with DOS/WINDOWS Andrew Warner Email: Systems: Dell pentium 90mhz, dos 6.2, win 3.1, 16mb ram, svga w/ 1mb vram, x3 cdrom, gig hd, 3.5' drive, and 14.4 modem. 386 25mhz laptop, dos 6.2, win 3.1, 4 mb ram, passive matrix color, eternal x2 cdrom, 3.5" drive, 9600 modem. Mark Webb Email: System: Intel 486-33 /Windows 3.1/ Dos 6.2 Sound Blaster 16 with CD-ROM Local Bus Super VGA Steven Webb Email: System: 486DX50, Orchid 1280+, SoundBlaster Pro, Mitsumi CD, Colorado Memory Systems 250 + 2Gig Tape drives, Linux, Win95, WinNT, OS/2 Warp, Gravis Joystick, Acer 17" monitor, 16 Megs ram, 3c593, IDE, ISA. Visual C++ 2.1, GNU C/C++, Borland C/C++ 4.02, MKS toolkit, Brief. 486DX266, VLB, 2Gig HD, Dos, 4Megs ram, 3c503. GNU C/C++. Dan Weeks Email: System: 386SX-25MHz, Math-coprocessor, DOS 5.0, Windows 3.1, Visual C++ Harm Wieringa Email Systems: 486DX2-66 w/ 8 Mb, MSDOS 6.22, Windows 3.11, GUS 1Mb soundcard and 4xspeed CD-ROM. Non-root access to a UNIX (SunOs) system. Clark Willis Email: Systems: 486/66, svga 2 meg card, svga, 32 meg, 520 M HD, 3.5 386/33, vga, 4 Meg, 120 M Hd Amiga 500 Charles K. Wilson Email: Systems: WFW 3.11 with 8 megs ram on a 486 at home remotely connected to my office by PC Anywhere (DOS); Apple Quadras and Power PCs connected through Appletalk and a DOS 5.0 system networked through Novell 3.11. The Apples are prepped for graphics production; but the DOS network is more suited toward text production. Memory is 2 megs. Most of the machines are 386s. Mark R. Wilson Email: Systems : Intel Plato Pentium 90 with 48meg RAM 2gig HD, Mitsumi 2X CD-ROM, QIC-80 and Conner Python 4GB DAT, SB16, PCI ET-4000/W32i 2meg, PCI NCR SCSI-2, LaserMaster Winjet 800, NE2000, WFW 3.11, Boca 28.8 ext. Intel DX2-66 with 32meg RAM, 2gig HD, VLB ET-4000/W32p 2meg, SBPro, OS2/3.0, WFW 3.11, DOS 6.22, NE2000, Pinnacle Micro PCD-1000 CD Recorder, DTC 3270 VLB SCSI2 Cont. Intel SX2-50 with 16meg RAM, 2gig HD, VLB Cirrius Logic 5428, Future Domain 1800 SCSI2 cont., SBPro compat., HP Scanjet, WFW 3.11, DOS 6.22, NetBSD 1.0. IBM PS/2 65sx with 4meg RAM, 386sx-16, 1gig HD, BusLogic SCSI2 MCA, XGA2 MCA, Protcol Adaptor MCA, DOS 6.22, Boca 14.4 ext. David Zawalick Email: Systems: DOS, Windows, OS/2, X, UNIX Boris O. Zhilin Email: Systems: MSC 486SX/25, 4M RAM, 1M Trident video, 250M HDD, SmartOne 1442FX fax-modem, Samsung SVGA monitor; MSC 386DX/40, 4M RAM, 512K Trident video, 120 HDD. DOS 5.0, Windows 3.1, DesqView/X. Macintosh LC, 4M RAM, 40M HDD, 16-color display, System 7.1 Macintosh Classic II, 4M RAM, 40M HDD, System 7.1.
Subject: How do I get added or deleted from the list of testers ? Send email to: Make sure that you clearly indicate you want to be included or removed from the list. Please include the types of platforms that you have available for testing. I will from time to time contact you to assure that you still wish to be included on the list.
Subject: What comp.sources.testers is *NOT* for. - c.s.testers is not a place to post test messages to see if your news software is properly configured. See the next section for more info. - c.s.testers is not a place to advertise your capabilities or experiences as a tester if you are interested in testing for cash payment. The group was formed to provide a forum for volunteer testers wishing to contribute in improving packages that interested them. If you are looking to test for profit, post your messages to one of the appropriate groups.
Subject: Where do I test my news software at ? Please do *not* post test messages to comp.sources.testers ! If you wish to test your news software, create a local group and try using that first. When that works, locate a regional group to test posting articles to the world. Ask your upstream feed for the name of an appropriate regional newsgroup near you. If you really feel that you must post a test message that needs to go to most every news system worldwide, use misc.test, or news.test. Just remember, messages posted to the world costs other sites money. ==================================================================

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