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Archive-name: net-abuse-faq/alt.fan.suckdotcom Last-modified: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 Version: 0.1delta URL: http://www.tipjar.com/suck/a.f.sdcFAQ.html Copyright: 1998 David Nicol Maintainer: David Nicol <david@tipjar.com> Expires: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 20:18:03 GMT See reader questions & answers on this topic! - Help others by sharing your knowledge Q: Is the midwest flat? A: Yes. Q: How do I get rid of the advertisement frame at the bottom of the page, when I am reading www.suck.com? A: Hit the escape key to stop the animations and then click on the horizontal bar and drag it down, covering the advertisement. Alternately, open the frame with the content in it in a new window. Or turn the images off and only load the images into the content frames. Would you like to maintain a web site that links directly to the content frames without the advertisements, defeating the suck.com business model? post your ideas to the newsgroup for technical discussion. Q: What is this newsgroup? A: This newsgroup is a forum for open discussion of the online magazine "suck" which was formed by some employees of wired magazine a few years ago. It's web url is http://www.suck.com and it is pretty self-explanatory. Q: Does this newsgroup have any connection with suck.com, or wired, or hotwired, or whatever they're calling their corporate sell-out selves now? A: No. They know about it, appreciate it, that's it. -1 Q: What is this newsgroup (II) ? A: alt.fan.suckdotcom is designed as a discussion forum pertaining to the articles and columns written by the staff of www.suck.com, thus the name. From the very beginning it has been confused for a sex newsgroup, which it is not, just as www.suck.com was confused for a porn site, which it is not. The rest of this message is in response to abuse problems 0 Q: What is a typical ISP acceptable use policy as pertaining to usenet? A: Here's an example. http://www.blazenet.net/cust_support/custnet_policy.html, the AUP for "Blazenet," explicitly forbids the following: Posting articles to any USENET or other news group, mailing list or similar forum which are off-topic according to the charter or other public statement of the forum. Disrupting any newsgroup with frivolous, excessively vulgar, or repetitious postings. Posting of binary, or excessively large, unrelated text files to non-binary news groups that have specifically requested such material not be posted in the group's FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions). 3 Q: Why are there no advertisements on alt.fan.suckdotcom? A: Because I personally ran off all the advertisers, by complaining to their ISPs. Thanks for noticing. :) A2: Because alt.fan.suckdotcom is protected by a vicious zotbot. 4 Q: Is this a cool place to post fellatio pictures? A: No, it is not. There are currently several people doing this, apparently since a.f.sdc's status as a "has 'suck' in the name but it's not a sex group" newsgroup had resulted in it having a slightly wider distribution than other newsgroups (equally free of advertisements, such as the alt.binaries.erotica.nospam hierarchy, where such pictures are appropriate. 5 Q: But I see all these fellatio pictures here A: Yes, I'm about to start reporting everyone who posts porn on alt.fan.suckdotcom to the FBI as perverts. Alt.fan.suckdotcom from the beginning has been set up as a discussion forum with a simple focus, which is discussing the content of www.suck.com without the filtering seen in their "fish" letters page. Therefore it is carried slightly more widely than the alt.binaries.erotica groups. 6 Q: What about sex wanted personal ads? A: See previous two question-answer pairs 6a Q: How about these postings of passwords to use to get into porn sites? A: Inappropriate. Unless they've got content of Joey Anuff's piercings (See http://www.suck.com/daily/95/08/29/ ) we don't want to know. 7 Q: Who do you think you are, laying down all these demands like this? A: I am the usenet news administrator for a large midwestern university and I set up alt.fan.suckdotcom after "the fish" decided not to print a letter I wrote to sucksters@suck.com. Prior to the recent deluge of fellatio pictures I was the primary source of content on alt.fan.suckdotcom. I think usenet is still an interesting platform for discussion, and free political discourse, and have put what I guess was merely the first of many sets of many hours into the tiresome chore of keeping alt.fan.suckdotcom free of sex ads, in order that it might be appropriate to have on the distribution list of a usenet server in a high school or a public library where it could be read by children. Has graphic fellatio photography suddenly become relevant to a discussion of, avant-garde and cynical? No, alt.fan.suckdotcom has been overrun by people who are posting to the wrong group. I am not going to stand by and see all the work I have done keeping alt.fan.suckdotcom free of sex ads wasted so that the sex pictures people can have another spam-free newsgroup. 8 Q: But I like amateur fellatio pictures and alt.fan.suckdotcom has no ads! A: You want a spam-free erotic binaries newsgroup? Pick an erotic binaries newsgroup and kick off the spammers! http://www.abuse.net may give you pointers on how to interpret the NNTP-Posting-Host: or X-Trace: header in a message and send a message to the administrators with the capability to disuser the offending trespasser. Most ISPs in the civilised internet have Acceptable Use Policies which define "abuse" as "generating complaints." Install Linux and you will get a tool "/usr/sbin/traceroute" which will tell you what higher-level ISP provides the internet service to the ISP your offender is using, you can complain to them if the ISP does not take action. With netscape communicator there's a "view document source" command on the "View" menu that will show you the normally hidden header fields for a particular article. "Path:" is all the servers the document went through to get to you, "nntp-posting-host" is the machine the poster used when they posted the article. 9 Q: What? There are already newsgroups devoted to spam-free erotic binaries? A: Yes there are. In case your usenet server doesn't have them, you will need to talk to your ISP's usenet admins about getting them. At my university we get our newsfeed from <a href="http://news-stats.sprintlink.net"><i>Sprint</i></a> and it has hundreds of declaredly commercial-free erotic binaries newsgroups. If your news feed has "alt.fan.suckdotcom" on it but not, for instance, alt.binaries.nospam.multimedia.erotica or alt.binaries.nospam.coed.toads and you really want to use your newsreaders to swap erotica, you need to change internet service providers because you got a "family" service when you wanted to get an "adult" service. The word to mention when you sign up is "adult content." 10 Q: Yeah? Well I think you suck and I'm going to keep posting graphic sex pictures to alt.fan.suckdotcom anyway. A: Okay, here's a question for you: Do you have any idea how much money the U.S. Federal government just allocated in the Omnibus Appropriations Bill for fighting the "problem of pornography on the internet" and how happy those bureaucrats are going to be to have me reporting you and your ISP's identites to them in order to help them justify their paychecks? May I suggest http://www.fbi.gov/archives/congress/children.htm as a good starting point? Since alt.fan.suckdotcom is NOT an eroticas group, it may get distribution into areas where erotica is not acceptable, and may be viewed by minors, which MAY, and I mean that in the strictest rfc2119-compliant sense, constitute felonius distribution of pornography to minors across state lines, but I'm not a lawyer, I'm just a coffee-addled loudmouth. 12 Q: What word processor did you use to compose this FAQ list? A: Word processor? I'm using vim, the extended, more friendly version of vi. Although I don't use the extended features all that much. Except for the unlimited undo stack. When I have to use a normal vi I miss that. :wq and all that. User Contributions: 1 fha loan ⚠ We help you get the best deal possible on your loans, period. By giving consumers multiple offers from several lenders in a matter of minutes, we make comparison shopping easy. And we all know-when lenders compete for your business, you win! 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