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rec.music.progressive Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ), Part 5/8


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Last-modified: Tue Nov 12 9:07:10 1996
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All mail addresses in these FAQs should be mailto: URLs
so you can mail anyone mentioned in the FAQs easily. (That is, as
long as your browser supports mailto: URLs). Newsgroup
names should be news: URLs so you can read any newsgroup
mentioned here by clicking them (again, providing your browser
supports them). Also, some names are links to the Web pages of
individuals.

This file may be freely distributed as long as it is not modified
in any way and contains this notice.

*Please Note:* All ftp, and web addresses are given in
	       standard URL format. If you are not familiar with
	       this then read this short explanation. Simple URL
	       format looks like this:

	       ftp://*some.network.address*/some/path/

A URL as given above can be entered as it is into any Web
browser. If you intend to use standard ftp, the starred part
should be used as the address of the machine to which you should
connect and the immediately following section as the directory to
look in when you are connected. The part preceding the starred
section can be ignored in this case.


The following people have contributed to making this file what it
is:

Malcolm Humes (mal@emf.net)
Mike J. Brown (mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu)
Craig Shipley (craigs@pyramid.com)
Mike Borella (mborella@cs.depaul.edu)
Phil Kime (Phil.Kime@ed.ac.uk)

		 ------------------------------------
		 Mailing Lists Through Email/Internet
		 ------------------------------------

A mailing list is a group of users with a special interest topic that
unites them via email. Any mail sent to the list address is
"exploded" by being sent to everyone on the subscription list. The
lists can reach up to hundreds or thousands of people with mutual
interests. Lists are generally available as normal (separate mail for
each post) or digest format.

Some lists are moderated: the moderator may request that a post be
edited or may refuse to post it if the content considered off the
topic of the list or possibly even offensive. This may sound
restrictive, but in reality there are few situations where post
content is censored or edited. One example is a list where discussion
of trading bootlegs is forbidden by the management of the site that
"owns" the mailing list.  There is no guarantee of "free speech" on
computer networks as there also is the implicit assumption that
anything you email or post may be read by many people. Most people
are not very concerned about this, but public discussions of
potentially illegal actions such as trading tapes, bootlegs or
otherwise is at your own risk and should probably be undertaken with
some discretion. In theory, mailing lists can reach a lot of people
who have email but cannot get Internet news. Mailing lists tend to
have less usless posts and flames because of a smaller, more focused
audience.

For solo and related acts, discussions might take place on related
lists (for example, Fish might be discussed on the Marillion list,
and Brand X on the Genesis list, Bruford, Levin and Belew on the King
Crimson list, Bruford on the Yes list, in fact Bruford on just about
any list: there is a theory, "The Bruford Connectivity Hypothesis",
that Bill Bruford can be connected to anybody in the music business
by no more than two steps, where a step is defined as "having worked
with". There is a stronger hypothesis "The Special Bruford
Connectivity Hypothesis" that extends this by saying that the
connection can be made to anyone on the planet in no more than three
steps. Ergo, Bill Bruford is the social epicentre of the human race.
Quite frightening really.

Most mailing lists have a "-request" or administrative address for
subscriptions and unsubscriptions. Save the introduction to any list
to which you subscribe or keep track of the administration address
when you want to unsubscribe. Many people post subscribe and
unsubscribe messages to the list mailer addresses, unwittingly
sending them to up to hundreds of other subscribers. Some list
administrators do not regularly read the mailing list posts or have
automated the subscription process, so use the administration address
for the appropriate requests. Listserv or Bitnet mailing lists
typically have a listserv@ address you should use instead of a
"-request" format address. Some of the smaller, digested lists use no
administrative address and all mail is sent to one address.

			      ~~~~~~~~~~~
			      Please Note
			      ~~~~~~~~~~~

There is no guarantee that these addresses are correct.  What you see
below is, to the best of my knowledge, the most recent address of the
mailing list. If the address is incorrect, please let me know.  If
you are a moderator of a prog mailing list, please contact me with
updates if and when your address changes.

::Artist::
  Progmaestros mailing list
::Admin Address::
  progmaestros-request@arastar.com
::Moderator Address::
  progmaestros-request@arastar.com
::Comments::

This daily digest was developed as a result of the interest in Dream
Theater by musicians subscribed to the Ytsejam digest. Our goal is to
network the musicians across the world who are interested in
Progressive rock and metal music.  We believe by doing this we can
share ideas, experiences and plans for our individual efforts and
thereby make it more accessible to a mainstream audience.  This music
deserves to be heard by more people AND better promoted by the
industry.  We hope that through our collective efforts this will
eventually happen. THE WHOLE IS GREATER THAN THE SUM OF ITS PARTS!

The progmaestros mailing list can be joined by doing the following:

Send the following e-mail to progmaestros-request@arastar.com

Subject should be "asdf".  Text should read exactly:

subscribe progmaestros firstname lastname

(replace the names with your own.) You will be added automatically!


	       ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

::Artist::
  Dream Theater
::Admin Address::
  ytsejam-request@arastar.com
::Moderator Address::
  ytsejam-owner@arastar.com
::Comments::

Ytsejam, the Dream Theater mailing list concerns itself with Dream
Theater past, present, and future.  To subscribe make this the body
of your mail:

subscribe ytsejam "Your Name"


	       ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

::Artist::
  Peter Gabriel
::Admin Address::
  gabriel@alpha.ufsia.ac.be
::Moderator Address::
  CCS.PEERAER.G@alpha.ufsia.ac.be (Geert Peeraer)
::Comments::
  FTP archives available. Digest form available also.

	       ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

::Artist::
  Genesis
::Admin Address::
  paperlate-request@ansto.gov.au
::Moderator Address::
  mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan)
::Comments::
  Send a message with `HELP' in the body for details on how to use
  the server to subscribe. (This is *totally* automated!)

	       ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

::Artist::
  Gentle Giant
::Admin Address::
  listserv@netcom.com
::Comments::

G. J. Goldwyn runs the Gentle Giant mailing (on-reflection) list on
the Internet. Current membership >150 and growing. A digest form is
under consideration.

To subscribe, send e-mail to

listserv@netcom.com

containing the single line

SUBSCRIBE on-reflection


	       ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

::Name::
  Gibraltar (Progressive Rock)
::Admin Address::
  gib@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu
::Moderator Address::
  gib@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu (Mike Taylor)
::WWW::
  <URL:http://www.museum.tulane.edu/pub/gibraltar/gibraltar.html>
::Comments::
  The list covers general and obscure Progressive Rock topics like
  rec.music.progressive and has a very useful archive server.
  Backissues and related files are available via anonymous ftp in the
  music directories at ftp.uwp.edu: Alternatively, they also reside
  at <URL:ftp://prog.ari.net/pub/music/prog/Gibraltar.> There's a
  very outdated topical index of the issues of the digest which is
  useful for finding references to specific bands in back issues.

	       ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

::Artist::
  Peter Hammill/Van Der Graaf Generator
::Admin Address::
  ph7-request@arastar.com
::Moderator Address::
  ph7-owner@arastar.com
::Comments::

The ph7 mailing list concerns itself with the music and writings of
Peter Hammill and related bands such as Van Der Graaf Generator.
Recent discussions have included comments on Random Hold, Fripp, The
Long Goodbye and Peter Hammill's two books of lyrics, poems, and
short stories. To subscribe, send a mail body of:

subscribe ph7 "Your Name"


	       ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

::Artist::
  Hawkwind
::Admin Address::
  boc-l@spcvxa.spc.edu
::Comments::
  Talk focuses around the two primary bands, but discussions have
  included the Ozric Tentacles and Eloy, plus Hawkwind offshoot bands
  and other `space-rock' bands.

	       ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

::Artist::
  Allan Holdsworth
::Admin Address::
  atavachron-request@msuacad.morehead-st.edu
::Moderator Address::
  preston@msuacad.morehead-st.edu
::Comments::
  A digested list that discusses Allan's music and session work.

	       ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

::Artist::
  IQ
::Admin Address::
  nmd@newton.npl.co.uk
::Moderator Address::
  nmd@newton.npl.co.u
::Comments::
  Also included is discussion of related bands such as Jadis,
  Niadem's Ghost and the Lens, as well as to a smaller degree, lesser
  known bands on the English club/prog scene.

	       ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

::Artist::
  Jethro Tull
::Admin Address::
  jtull-request@remus.rutgers.edu
::Moderator Address::
  steiner@bakerst.rutgers.edu (Dave Steiner)

	       ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

::Artist::
  Kansas
::Admin Address::
  kansas-request@traveller.com
::Moderator Address::
  rew@crystaldata.com (Ryan Waldron)

	       ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

::Artist::
  King Crimson, Robert Fripp and related artists
::Admin Address::
  toby@cs.man.ac.uk
::Moderator Address::
  toby@cs.man.ac.uk (Toby Howard)
::WWW::
  <URL:http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/aig/staff/toby/elephant-talk.html>
::Comments::
  This is the "Elephant Talk" digest (previously called "Discipline".
  Archives at <URL:ftp://ftp.uwp.edu/> with discography(ies?) also.

	       ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

::Artist::
  Marillion/Fish
::Admin Address::
  freaks-request@arastar.com
::Moderator Address::
  freaks-owner@arastar.com
::Comments::

The freaks mailing list is the oldest of the arastar.com: progressive
rock mailing lists. It deals with Marillion, Fish, and other related
bands. To subscribe, send mail body of:

subscribe freaks "Your Name"


	       ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

::Artist::
  Steve Morse and the Dixie Dregs
::Admin Address::
  blickstein@dregs.enet.dec.COM
::Moderator Address::
  blickstein@dregs.enet.dec.COM

	       ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

::Artist::
  Mike Oldfield
::Admin Address::
  amarok-request@frisbee.net.au
::List Address::
  amarok@frisbee.net.au
::Comments::

To subscribe send

subscribe amarok-daily

in the body of a message to the admin address

Web site at

<URL:http://www.frisbee.net.au/amarok/>

ftp archive at

<URL:ftp://ftp.frisbee.net.au/amarok/>


	       ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

::Artist::
  Ozric Tentacles
::Admin Address::
  erpnotes-request@iastate.edu
::Moderator Address::
  cambler@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu (Chris Ambler)

	       ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

::Artist::
  Pink Floyd
::Admin Address::
  echoserv@fawnya.tcs.com (automated server),
  echoes-request@fawnya.tcs.com (manual un/subscribe)
::Moderator Address::
  bear@tcs.co
::Comments::

To subscribe send mail to the server (echoserv@fawnya.tcs.com) with

Subscription: add echoes or Subscription: add-digest echoes

You can mail to echoes-request@fawnya.tcs.com to susbcribe manually.

Archive server has lists of rare releases, huge FAQ, interviews etc.
You can get info on how to use the server to retrieve files, reviews
of rarities discs and interviews and other info by sending mail to
the echoserv address with the text body:

help
quit


	       ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

::Artist::
  Post-classical discussion
::Admin Address::
  majordomo@cs.uwp.edu
::Comments::

Send "subscribe post-classical" in the *body* of the mail or
"subscribe post-classical-digest" for the digest format. From the
admin information regarding which bands might typicallybe discussed
on the list:

Shinjuku Thief, In The Nursery, Art Zoyd, Univers Zero, Daniel Denis,
Pete Namlook, Peter Frohmader, Graeme Revell, Laibach, Autopsia,
Mynox Layh, Frame/Cut/Frame, Edgar Varese, John Cage, Karlheinz
Stockhousen, Michael Nyman, Steve Reich, Harry Partch, Morton
Feldman, Mossolov and Iannis Xenakis.


	       ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

::Artist::
  Queensryche
::Admin Address::
  queensryche-request@pilot.njin.net
::Moderator Address::
  queensryche-owner@pilot.njin.net (Shag Aristotelis)
::Comments::
  Weekly digest, express (news-only) edition available.  FTP
  archives.  To subscribe, send mail containing your first name,
  `subscribe' and which edition you want, to the request address.

	       ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

::Artist::
  Rush
::Admin Address::
  rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu
::Moderator Address::
  rush-mgr@syrinx.umd.edu

	       ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

::Artist::
  Tangerine Dream
::Admin Address::
  tadream-request@cs.uwp.edu
::Moderator Address::
  datta@cs.uwp.edu (Dave Datta)

	       ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

::Artist::
  David Torn
::Admin Address::
  pcole@sseyod.demon.co.uk
::Moderator Address::
  pcole@sseyod.demon.co.uk (Pete Cole)
::Comments::
  Door X - the David Torn mailing list. Current membership 100, and
  growing ... including DT himself!  To join, e-mail
  pcole@sseyod.demon.co.uk with a subject of SUBSCRIBE DOORX

	       ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

::Artist::
  Triumvirat
::Admin Address::
  75337.3537@compuserve.com
::Comments::
  Related to Triumvirat, Juergen Fritz and Helmut Koellen.

	       ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

::Artist::
  Pere Ubu
::Moderator Address::
  pereubu@projex.demon.co.uk
::WWW::
  <URL:http://www.dnai.com/~obo/ubu/>

	       ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

::Artist::
  Vangelis
::Admin Address::
  direct-request@ctsx.celtech.com
::Moderator Address::
  N/A

	       ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

::Artist::
  Yes
::Admin Address::
  nfte@cms.uncwil.edu
::Moderator Address::
  nfte@cms.uncwil.edu
::Comments::

Yes and Anderson-Bruford-Wakeman-Howe related. Newsletter: `Notes
From The Edge'.

NFTE Server (lyrics, backissues, discography, rarities, surveys,
GIFs): Automated. For help send mail with subject line "send main
help" to yes-archive@meiko.com


	       ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

::Artist::
  John Zorn
::Admin Address::
  zorn-request@unh.edu
::Moderator Address::
  mpj1@kepler.unh.edu
::Comments::
  This list is for discussion of the composer/musician/producer John
  Zorn, and everything he has been part of. (i.e. Naked City, Praxis,
  Pain Killer, etc...)

	       ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

			       ---------
			       FTP Sites
			       ---------

The primary FTP site for progressive music related information is:

<URL:http://prog.ari.net/pub/music/prog/>

The directories include: articles, concert reviews, discographies,
interviews, Gibraltar backissues, album reviews, and much more,
including the latest version of these FAQs.

The administrator of the site is Adam Levin and you can reach him at
alevin@ari.net if you have comments, questions, or submissions. Note
that this is a moderated site - you cannot just put files there.

Most of the musical discographies, lyrics, interviews and other
information can be found at:

<URL:ftp://ftp.uwp.edu/>

This site also has a number of mailing list archives and other
information but is not devoted to progressive music and has little
information about more obscure artists.

There also is an ftp site dedicated to ambient and related musics
at:

<URL:ftp://techno.stanford.edu/>

It is a repository of information about all types of ambient music,
from Eno's "pure" form to droning guitar/psych rock.  It also has a
gopher server.

		     -----------------------------
		     Newsgroups Dedicated to Bands
		     -----------------------------

There are Usenet groups solely dedicated to particular progressive
bands. Below is a selection to give you an idea of the naming
conventions.

Dream Theater (alt.music.dream-theater)
Bela Fleck (alt.music.bela-fleck)
Peter Gabriel (alt.music.peter-gabriel)
Peter Hammill (alt.fan.peter.hammill)
Jethro Tull (alt.music.jethro-tull)
Marillion (alt.music.marillion)
Moody Blues (alt.music.moody-blues)
Phish (rec.music.phish)
Pink Floyd (alt.music.pink-floyd)
Todd Rundgren (alt.music.todd-rundgren)
Rush (alt.music.rush)
Yes (alt.music.yes)

While mentioning these bands in r.m.p is fine, long, drawn-out
discussions of their music should be kept to the appropriate
newsgroup.

			     -------------
			     FTP Via Email
			     -------------

Some sites have no ftp access, or have ftp access that is limited to
local or regional sites.  Fortunately, you can access many FTP sites
via email.

If you ca not FTP from your site, use one of the following
ftp-by-mail servers:

ftpmail@decwrl.dec.com
ftpmail@src.doc.ic.ac.uk
ftpmail@cs.uow.edu.au
ftpmail@grasp.insa-lyon.fr

For complete instructions, send a message reading "help" to the
server.  Note that the word "help" must appear in the body of the
message, not just on the subject line.

			       ---------
			       WWW Pages
			       ---------

This section merely provides pointers to central repositories of
information wherin you will find endless numbers of other links.
Keeping lists of all relevant links is simply not possible in a
finite FAQ.

The *GEPR* (see FAQ 4 and FAQ 7) is now properly on-line at its new
home in the US. There are currently two mirrors, one in Europe and
another in the US. Choose the site nearest to you for the fastest
access.

		 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
		 Home site (maintained by Mike Taylor)
		 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

<URL:http://www.museum.tulane.edu/pub/gepr/gepr.html>

		  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
		  UK mirror (maintained by Phil Kime)
		  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

<URL:http://www.cogsci.ed.ac.uk/~philkime/GEPR/gepr.html>

		 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
		 US mirror (maintained by Adam Levin)
		 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

<URL:http://www.ari.net/prog/GEPR/gepr.html>

Adam Levin also currently runs the progressive music home page that
contains a lot of interesting information including links to other
places. This can be reached at:

<URL:http://www.ari.net/prog/>

This site also maintains a page of links to Web pages detailing many
(some quite obscure) progressive artists. You can even access music
of various lesser known bands. Rather than duplicate all the links
here, you can find them on these pages.

The premier progressive music mailing list, Gibraltar now has a Web
page:

<URL:http://www.museum.tulane.edu/pub/gibraltar/gibraltar.html>

Also, perhaps you would like to look at the Triad Radio Web pages at
URL:

<URL:http://ripco.com:8080/~saxmania/triad.html>

"Triad was a progressive, free-form, innovative radio program that
aired in Chicago on WXFM-FM between 1969 and 1977. There was a lot of
interesting music that went out over the air-waves of Triad on
WXFM-FM 105.9 in the early 70's." (from the Triad Web page).

Henry Potts now maintains the alt.music.yesFAQs online at

<URL:http://sable.ox.ac.uk/~some0280/amy_faq.html>

				 ~~~~~
				 iRock
				 ~~~~~

iRock is probably the most exciting prog site on the net for new
progressive music.  There are two new iRock shows a week that are
listenable via audio streaming technology from VocalTec. With their
new player client, Internet Wave, one can hear excellent progressive
rock directly off the net if you have a 28.8 connection and TCP/IP.
iRock is now the first Internet Music Radio Station licensed to play
copyright music on the net by ASCAP and BMI.  Take a look and listen
to iRock at:

<URL:http://www.irock.com>

This FAQ is maintained by Phil Kime(Phil.Kime@ed.ac.uk). Comments,
questions, and criticisms are positively always welcome.  This text
was taken in part from the previous versions of this FAQ, which were
maintained by Scott McMahan, and Mike Borella. The FAQs were brought
into being originally through the sterling efforts of Malcolm Humes.
Many thanks go to all of these gentlemen for their excellent work.
-- 
=                    Phil Kime (Phil.Kime@ed.ac.uk)                   =
=             Centre for Cognitive Science/Dept of Philosophy         =
=                         University of Edinburgh                     =

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