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CONTENTS:

[Q1]  What are the differences between "acoustic",
      "digital", "electric" and "electronic" pianos?
[Q2]  Okay, now that I know the difference between
      acoustic and digital pianos, tell me more about
      digital pianos.
[Q3]  What are the advantages of buying a digital piano as
      opposed to an acoustic one?
[Q4]  What are the drawbacks?
[Q5]  Should I buy a digital piano or an acoustic piano?
[Q6]  What are the basic things I should look for in a
      digital piano?
[Q7]  Are there any magazine reviews on digital pianos?
[Q8]  What's different between the different manufacturers
      and the different models?
[Q9]  What are the most popular brands?
[Q10] What is the mean time between repairs?
[Q11] How much pounding can they take?
[Q12] Where can I get the best deal on a digital piano?


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[Q1]  What are the differences between "acoustic",
      "digital", "electric" and "electronic" pianos?

An "acoustic" piano is the traditional piano everybody is
familiar with, that produces sounds by means of hammers
striking strings.  It is generally referred to as "the
piano."  The term "acoustic" is usually used when
specifically making a distinction between other various forms
of piano (digital, electric, etc.)

A "digital" piano is an instrument which does its best to
duplicate the sound and feel of playing an acoustic piano.
It uses digitally sampled sounds, amplifiers and speakers
instead of strings and hammers to produce the piano-like
sound.  They have weighted key action to imitate the action
of an acoustic piano.

An "electric" piano is an electro-acoustic instrument
analogous to an electric guitar.  It has a real action, some
sort of metal tine or string which vibrates, and pickups to
detect the audio signal for subsequent amplification.

An "electronic" piano, better referred to as an "electronic
keyboard" is an instrument with a keyboard, but usually
without the weighted key action or velocity sensitivity, and
the sound is usually generated through synthesizers
(computer-generated); however, some may have sampled sounds.
This type of keyboard is the one you see most in bands
playing popular music.


[Q2]  Okay, now that I know the difference between
      acoustic and digital pianos, tell me more about
      digital pianos.

A complete digital piano system consists of the following: a
keyboard with a weighted key action, optical or other
electronic sensors which detect the velocity with which you
strike the keys, a digitized sound bank, an amplifier or two,
and speakers/headphone jacks.  Usually the sound for each
note has been sampled off a high-quality acoustic piano.
When a key is pressed, the sensors detect the key's velocity,
and a microchip produces the note with corresponding loudness
(the faster, or harder you hit the keys, the louder), just
like a piano.  Keys are usually weighted to approximate the
feel of a piano's keyboard rather than that of an organ
(soft, very little resistance, light).

Most digital pianos also offer other than piano sounds (such
as pipe organ, harpsichord, etc.), plus miscellaneous digital
technology "gadgets".  Since all the sounds are stored in
electronic form, you can listen to the piano through
headphones instead of speakers, thereby allowing you to play
the piano without anyone else hearing it.


[Q3]  What are the advantages of buying a digital piano as
      opposed to an acoustic one?

The biggest advantages of digital pianos are:

(1) Relative portability.  Most digital pianos weigh less
    than 200 lbs., as opposed to 450--500 lbs. for a typical
    upright and much more for grand pianos.  You have
    the luxury of disassembling the major parts of the
    digital piano, stash it in your hatchback, and drive away
    with it.

(2) Does not need tuning.  If you have a piano, you will
    usually have to tune it once or twice a year.  The sounds
    for a digital piano are recorded and stored "digitally"
    within the hardware, so it does not go out of tune.

(3) Option to play silently.  By using headphones, you can
    play a digital piano as loud as you want whenever you
    want without producing any sound which others can hear
    (well, except for your fingers hitting the keys and some
    low-level noise from the keys moving).  If you live in
    close-quarters or in an apartment with poor sound
    insulation, this silencing ability is very useful.

(4) Relatively low maintenance.  Beyond the usual practices
    of keeping liquids away, keeping it out of direct
    sunlight, and occasional dusting, etc., digital pianos
    are virtually maintenance-free.

(5) Electronic interface.  Many digital piano models have a
    MIDI interface capability, which allows you to connect
    the piano to your favorite computer or other MIDI
    hardware and enjoy the benefits of digital technology.
    As you pay more, the built-in recording and playback
    capability available will become more elaborate.

(6) Many voices.  Most digital pianos come with several
    different types of piano sounds, plus the sounds of other
    instruments.  For example, with a press of a button you
    can make it sound like a harpsichord, a pipe organ or
    something else.  The variety of sounds you get differs
    among models, but generally as you pay more, you get more
    voices.  Some models come with a full orchestra sound,
    allowing you to compose a symphony right on your piano!


[Q4]  What are the drawbacks?

(1) Sound quality.  No matter how well the piano sound is
    sampled, you can never truly get away from the
    "amplified", "digital" sound quality.  As digital
    sampling technology improves, the gap between the
    acoustic and digital sound may diminish, but digital
    sound will never equal or be superior to those of an
    acoustic.

(2) Inability to produce a "color" to the tone.  In an
    acoustic instrument, by using various playing techniques,
    you can produce almost infinite kinds of "color" to the
    tone.  Digital pianos can only produce sounds that were
    originally sampled (recorded), and thus very limited in
    terms of variety in the sound produced.  For a very
    accomplished pianist, the limited sound produced by the
    digital piano can be disturbing.

(3) As with any electronic mechanisms, digital pianos can
    develop problems like damaged spring action on the keys,
    bad contact, bad amplifier, bad speaker, etc.  Digital
    pianos in general are considered relatively robust, but
    there has been reports of key action break down, hissing
    and crackling speaker noise developing, and having
    difficulty in getting it fixed correctly.

(4) As with any electronics, the technology used to create
    the current digital piano may (well, almost certainly
    will) become obsolete in the near future.  Whereas, in an
    acoustic piano, one can assume if you buy a good piano
    and take good care of it, your grandchild or great-
    grandchild can still play it and will find someone who
    can maintain your piano.  This is not necessarily the
    case with digital pianos.  Digital pianos haven't been
    around long enough to really make a good case study of
    its longevity.  One reason to purchase digital pianos
    from a reputable company.


[Q5]  Should I buy a digital piano or an acoustic piano?

The technology of digital pianos has made some impressive
strides in the last couple of years.  For between $2000 and
$3000 (at the best available discounts), you can get some
fairly satisfying instruments.  However, the current state of
the art isn't perfect (yet :-) ), and for those prices you
can pick up a decent used acoustic piano.  If your situation
doesn't require the advantages of a digital piano (relative
portability, and the option of practicing silently with
headphones are the big ones), you might be happier hunting
down a good deal on a new or used upright.  If you really
want to splurge, you can get something like a Yamaha Silent
Series, which is an acoustic piano with the digital piano
silencing capability added.  You get the best of both worlds,
but you also pay the price.


[Q6]  What are the basic things I should look for in a
      digital piano?

Before you set out shopping, fetch a good-quality (the best
quality you can get your hands on) headphone sets and take it
with you to the piano dealers.  If you're buying a digital
piano instead of an acoustic piano, the chances are you'll be
practicing through headphones a lot and should determine how
it sounds through a headset as well as through the speakers.
Using headphones is also practical because it is easier to
hear many subtle defects which might be masked by the
speakers.  Don't be afraid to play away on the floor models.
That's what they're there for.  If you want, you can grab a
friend who can play the piano well, so you can listen how it
sounds while your friend plays it.  But don't be a passive
observer.  Also, if the showroom also has fine acoustic
instruments, use them for comparison.

Keep in mind that it is *you* who will be playing the digital
piano, and not your friend or the salesperson.  Buying
digital piano is like buying a stereo system.  You can spend
almost infinite amount of money if you don't watch out.  Get
what you are satisfied with, not what others say that you
will be satisfied with.

Here are some common concerns for picking a good digital
piano, whatever your needs.

(1)  Action.  Does it *feel* like a piano to you?
     Do the keys have the proper weight and do they move
     under your fingers the way you remember a good piano
     does?  Is it easy to imagine that you are picking up and
     throwing a hammer forward at the end of each stroke?
     Some pianos offer many levels of velocity-response (i.e.
     how heavy you have to hit the keys before you get a
     sound out), so check those settings also.

(2)  Dynamic range.  Does it respond to velocity
     properly?  How loudly and how softly can it be played?
     Is it easy to play and maintain an even dynamic level?
     Does the timbre change properly with dynamic shifts?

(3)  Sound.  Pick a note, play it loudly, hold it and
     listen carefully while it decays into silence.  Does it
     sound natural?  Does it take long enough? Does it last
     *too* long?  (Time a note at similar loudness on a grand
     piano for comparison).  Can you hear obvious, repeating
     patterns ("loops")?  Repeat this test, playing a chord
     instead of a single note.

(4)  Realistic sound source.  Play something moving up
     and down the keyboard (scales, arpeggios, etc.).  Does
     the sound "move" realistically from side to side (do the
     bass notes seem to be coming from the left side of the
     cabinet while the treble notes come from the right)?

(5)  Polyphony.  How many notes can you hear at once?
     Ones with less polyphony (12-16), you can run out of
     notes quickly if you start sustaining multiple notes or
     playing big chords, resulting in notes being abruptly
     "cut-off".  A good test is to hold down the sustain
     pedal, play the two lowest C's, then play a glissando
     about five octaves or more long.  Not-so-good models
     will prematurely and abruptly drop notes in a fashion
     that you can hear clearly;  the worst models will drop
     one or both bass notes.  The best models will chose
     notes that are acoustically masked by others.

(6)  Design.  Is the control panel (and the manual)
     well laid-out and easy to understand?  Some poorly
     designed panels have buttons which are too close to the
     keys, and while you play you may accidentally hit the
     control buttons and change the setting of the
     instrument.

(7)  Gadgets.  Does it have many bells and whistles?
     Are the ones it does have useful for you?  Is there a
     built-in key cover?  If you need some non-piano voices,
     does it have the ones you want? Are they good enough for
     your purposes?  Some models offer various levels of
     reverb, imitating the acoustic "echo" effect you hear
     when you play an instrument in different environment
     such as, room, concert hall, studio, etc.

(8)  Fine-tuning capability.  What kind of hidden
     "effects" does the model have?  Some digital pianos
     offer a few special purpose modes (like alternate
     tunings, variable harmonics, adjustable decay length,
     etc.).  Alternate tunings are useful if you play in an
     ensemble often, because you will be allowed to tune your
     piano to the ensemble.  Others are useful for those who
     like to fiddle with electronics to get the sound "just
     right."

(9)  Pedaling levels.  Does the damper (or sustain)
     pedals have multi-level of pedaling response, or is it
     just on-off?  In a piano, depending on how much you
     depress the pedal, you get different amounts of
     sustaining of the notes.  A simple "on-off" pedaling may
     hamper pianists who are trained to use half-pedaling
     techniques in a piano.

(10) How powerful is the amplifier/speaker system?
     Bigger amplifiers and multiple number of speakers
     generally give you a better sound.  You may not
     necessarily ever use all that excess power, but having
     that excess power can give you more balanced sound when
     you play (doesn't sound as if the speakers are
     straining, etc.).


[Q7]  Are there any magazine reviews on digital pianos?

The December 1993 issue of "Keyboard" had a review of many
models, and the July/August 1994 issue of "Piano and
Keyboard" had a similar review -- you might want to check
your local library and see if you can find them.

"Electronic Musician" publishes a yearly "Digital Piano
Buyers Guide" (the last one came out around October 1994);
you won't find any recommendations for specific models, but
it gives a pretty comprehensive listing of *everything* on
the market, and an easy overview of the current technology
for people unfamiliar with it.

The December 1995 issue of the "Keyboard Magazine" is a
hardware buyer's guide, and it seem to have specifications on
most digital pianos and synthesizers.


[Q8]  What's different between the different manufacturers
      and the different models?

As for *manufacturers*, they usually differ in:

  (1) how they sampled the sounds,
  (2) key action design,
  (3) sound output design,
  (4) overall appearance.

Thus each company's product line has a distinctly different
feel and sound.  There are many makers out there.  (In
alphabetical order) Baldwin, Casio, Kawai, Korg, Kurzweil,
Roland, Samick, Technics, Wersi, Yamaha, to name a few.  The
best way to decide what these differences mean to you is to
go to a local dealer and try out the different brands.

Usually, the main differences between various models within
the *same maker* are in:

  (1) the weighted key action (how the keys feel),
  (2) amplifier power,
  (3) number and size of speakers,
  (4) number of voices (piano and non-piano sounds),
  (5) polyphony (how many notes you can play simultaneously),
  (6) the miscellaneous "gadgets" (like sequencing
      capabilities, metronome, etc.)

In general, the more money you shell out for a digital piano,
the more closely it imitates a piano and better sound.  The
difference between a low-end model and a mid-range model is
usually pretty dramatic.  Some low-end models do not have all
88-keys.  Some may not even have a sound output system (you
basically play it through your stereo speakers or use
headphones).  The difference between a mid-range model and a
high-end model is mostly in the "gadgetry" department and in
amplifier power; most of the key elements don't vary a whole
lot.  The majority of the digital piano market is in the mid-
price range, and that's usually good enough to keep most
people happy.


[Q9]  What are the most popular brands?

For overall satisfaction within this newsgroup, the general
consensus seems to center around Yamaha Clavinova and
Technics Digital Piano series.  Roland HP series seems to
have good reviews on key action and miscellaneous sounds, but
they tend to be more expensive.  Kurzweil is another brand
which is well received.  But as stated before, go check them
out yourself.  Like/dislike is a very personal thing, and you
should not make a decision based on what others say.

Also, the rmmp newsgroup maintains the Digital Pianos
Hardware List.  This document lists the hardware
specifications of many current or about-to-be-obsolete models
of digital pianos available.  You can retrieve it through
anonymous ftp to rtfm.mit.edu under:

/pub/usenet/news.answers/music/piano/digital-pianos-list

You can also read it on www on URL:

   http://www.ptg.org/rmmp/


[Q10] What is the mean time between repairs?

Nobody really seems to know the answer to this.  This is akin
to asking how often does a new car or a stereo component
breaks down.  There are many people who have had the digital
pianos for 10+ years with absolutely no problem, and there
are people who ended up with a "lemon" which needed frequent
repairs soon after the purchase (within the warranty period).


[Q11] How much pounding can they take?

The general consensus is that digital pianos can take as much
pounding as a piano can.  One would hope that the
manufacturers have designed them with that in mind.  But
there have been reports of people chipping the plastic on the
key, or losing a spring which helps the feel of a weighted
action and have been playing gingerly ever since, but this
seems to be in the minority.


[Q12] Where can I get the best deal on a digital piano?

Prices vary greatly depending on the make and the model, and
the suggested retail price (SRP) can range anywhere from
$1500 to $7000.  Don't be daunted by this, though.  You can
buy most of these from mail-order houses for substantial
discounts, as much as 50% off the SRP.  Some local dealers
may or may not try to match the mail order price.  You will
just have to shop around and ask.  There are many mail-order
firms.  Any copy of the magazines "Keyboard", "Electronic
Musician" or "Piano and Keyboard" will have ads for them.

NOTE:
One thing you will want to consider is, that in some states, a
"Use Tax" law is enforced, which is a sales tax levied on
mailorder purchases made out-of-state and delivered out-of-state.
If you are not aware, you may receive a rude surprize few years down
the road from the Department of Revenue of your state.  If you are
found liable to the Use Tax, and did not file a Use Tax return by 15
April of the following year, you may be required to pay up to double
the sales tax amount in taxes, interest, and penalties (Believe me.  I
was caught unaware and was forced to pay 2 years after I bought a
digital piano out of state).

You might also want to take a look at the following WWW sites
for price lists and dealers.

  USA New Gear Price List
  (Formerly: Casey Palowitch's New Gear price list):
     http://www.princeton.edu/~casey/newgear.html

  Synthcom System's Used Gear Price List
  (Formerly: Aaron Oppenheimer/Neil Bradley's Used Gear price list):
     http://www.synthcom.com/cgi-bin/gear

  Chris Schumann's Electronic Music Software Price List:
     http://www.dwave.net/~whizkid/emspg.html


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end Digital Piano FAQ

I would like to extend my thanks to Michael Scott for his
extensive contribution to this FAQ, and Philip Tompkins for
giving me suggestions and corrections.  Also, to many others
in the RMMP newsgroup for bits and pieces of information
contained in this FAQ.  I couldn't have gotten this thing
started without their help.

This document is copyright (c) 1995-1997 by Isako Hoshino.
It may be freely distributed in its entirety provided that
this copyright notice is not removed.  It may not be sold for
profit nor incorporated in commercial documents without the
author's permission.  This article is provided "as is"
without express or implied warranties.  While every effort
has been taken to ensure the accuracy of the information
contained in this article, the maintainer assumes no
responsibility for errors or omissions, or for damages
resulting from the use of the information contained herein.

Isako Hoshino
rmmpfaq@yahoo.com
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pensive.  Kurzweil is
another brand which is well received.  But as stated before, go check
them out yourself.  Like/dislike is a very personal thing, and you
should not make a decision based on what others say.


[Q10] What is the mean time between repairs?

Nobody really seems to know the answer to this.  This is akin to
asking how often does a new car or a stereo component breaks down.
There are many people who have had the digital pianos for 10+ years
with absolutely no problem, and there are people who ended up with a
"lemon" which needed frequent repairs soon after the purchase (within
the warranty period).


[Q11] How much pounding can they take?

The general consensus is that digital pianos can take as much pounding
as a piano can.  One would hope that the manufacturers have designed
them with that in mind.  But there have been reports of people
chipping the plastic on the key, or losing a spring which helps the
feel of a weighted action and have been playing gingerly ever since,
but this seems to be in the minority.


[Q12] Where can I get the best deal on a digital piano?

Prices vary greatly depending on the make and the model, and the
suggested retail price (SRP) can range anywhere from $1500 to $7000.
Don't be daunted by this, though.  You can buy most of these from
mail-order houses for substantial discounts, as much as 50% off the
SRP. Some local dealers may or may not try to match the mail order
price.  You will just have to shop around and ask.  There are many
mail-order firms.  Any copy of the magazines "Keyboard", "Electronic
Musician" or "Piano and Keyboard" will have ads for them.

You might also want to do a search on google or other of your favorite
online search site to get most up-to-date information on available
models and current ball-park prices.

NOTE: 
One thing you will want to consider is, that in some states, a
"Use Tax" law is enforced, which is a sales tax levied on mailorder
purchases made out-of-state and delivered out-of-state.  If you are
not aware, you may receive a rude surprize few years down the road
from the Department of Revenue of your state.  If you are found liable
to the Use Tax, and did not file a Use Tax return by 15 April of the
following year, you may be required to pay up to double the sales tax
amount in taxes, interest, and penalties.



**************************
end Digital Piano FAQ

I would like to extend my thanks to Michael Scott for his extensive
contribution to this FAQ, and Philip Tompkins for giving me
suggestions and corrections.  Also, to many others in the RMMP
newsgroup for bits and pieces of information contained in this FAQ. I
couldn't have gotten this thing started without their help.

This document is copyright (c) 1995-2010 by Isako Hoshino.  It may be
freely distributed in its entirety provided that this copyright notice
is not removed and the link to the permanent web site is not removed
(http://rmmpiano.tripod.com/rmmp-faq.html).  It may not be sold for
profit nor incorporated in commercial documents or web sites without
the author's permission.  This article is provided "as is" without
express or implied warranties.  While every effort has been taken to
ensure the accuracy of the information contained in this article, the
maintainer assumes no responsibility for errors or omissions, or for
damages resulting from the use of the information contained herein.

Isako Hoshino
rmmpfaq@yahoo.com
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