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             Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ), part 1 of 2
                     for newsgroup rec.music.dylan
            Please e-mail corrections and suggestions to:
                           howells@bigfoot.com
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                  Copyright 1994, 1995 Adam K. Powers
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CONTENTS:

Part 1 - What is available on Internet? (this article):

        0. What has been changed since the previous posting of the FAQ?
        1. Who is Bob Dylan?
        2. What is rec.music.dylan?
        3. Are you certain your e-mail address works?
        4. Is there a rec.music.dylan etiquette?
        5. How do I access rec.music.dylan?
        6. Glossary of terms and acronyms common to this newsgroup.
        7. Is there a Bob Dylan discography available online, or some
                way to order Dylan CDs via Internet?
        8. Where can I find lyrics, tablature and other Bob Dylan
                information via Internet?
        9. Is there some way that I can get lists of Bob Dylan
                concert tapes and unreleased recordings from past
                years?
       10. When and where will Bob Dylan be performing next?
       11. What is EDLIS?
       12. What if I want to talk about Dylan on-line at all hours?

Part 2 - Where else can I get information, off-line? (next article):

        1. Where can I buy Bob Dylan collectors' items?
        2. What books about Dylan's life and music are available?
                a. Bob Dylan biographies
                b. Studies of Dylan as a performer, lyricist, etc.
                c. Reference books
        3. Are there magazines about Dylan to which I could
                subscribe?
        4. I just read an article about Bob Dylan in my newspaper...
        5. What are bootlegs, and how do I find them?
        6. Has Bob Dylan appeared in any movies or film
                documentaries?
        7. Has anybody ever sent away for the limited edition notes
                offered in the "Under the Red Sky" album?
        8. Who really wrote "Blowin' In the Wind"? Was it Bob Dylan
		or Lorre Wyatt?
        9. Why does Dylan laugh at the beginning of "Bob Dylan's 115th
                Dream"?
       10. What is the Gregory Peck movie Dylan's talking about in       
                "Brownsville Girl"?


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0. What has been changed since the previous update of the FAQ
   (17 January 2000)?
==============================================================

Part 1:
-------

 o  Updated obsolete references to Dejanews - now Google Groups

 o  Updated information about Bob Dylan's official US discography

 o  Updated information about lyric sites

Part 2:
-------

 o Updated book section in part 2. Added several new books and
   updated others.

 o Added question and answer about Al Santos, Dylan's stage manager
   who gives the standard introduction.

------------------------------

1. Who is Bob Dylan?
====================
Bob Dylan is a singer, a guitar player, a song writer and a recording 
artist. Born Robert Allen Zimmerman in Duluth Minnesota in 1941, his 
earliest circulating recordings date from 1958 and his first commercial 
release was in 1962. Forty-odd albums and many hundreds of concerts 
later, Dylan continues to write, record and perform.

For more information see:
http://expectingrain.com/dok/who/d/dylanbob.html


2. What is rec.music.dylan? 
===========================
Welcome! This Usenet newsgroup is devoted to the discussion of Bob
Dylan, his music, and things Dylan-related. We welcome your
constructive comments on nearly any issue, even if it's only
tangentially associated with Bob Dylan.

There is no official Dylan fan club, so small packs of Dylan fans
band together to stay informed and carry on general discussion. This
particular Usenet newsgroup was founded July 31, 1989 by Tom Buckley. 

Sometimes it seems that all we're interested in are upcoming tour
dates and clarification of fact regarding old recordings, but there
is often very interesting discussion of Dylan's lyrics themselves, a
reason that no doubt many of you read this newsgroup.  If you don't
see the sort of discussion you want, you're encouraged to bring it up
yourself! 

Many people criticise the content and tenor of postings on
rec.music.dylan but few praise those they like. If you see a posting
which is just what you like to see why not e-mail the poster
privately and say so. Many good posters cease contributing because they 
are not getting any feedback. The way to ensure rec.music.dylan is to 
your liking is to encourage postings you like and to contribute 
yourself!


3. Are you certain your e-mail address works?
=============================================
Most new contributors who complain no one has answered their queries 
turn out to have displayed an incorrect e-mail address in their 
postings. This is so common it is very unlikely a correspondent 
answering your query will do anything once they see that mail to you 
bounces back as 'user unknown'. One of the best ways to test your 
address is to send mail to the "robot" at bouncer@nic.near.net. You 
should be sent two replies. If this does not work then try posting to a 
test newsgroup (eg. alt.test) or contact the postmaster at your site for 
help.


4. Is there a rec.music.dylan etiquette?
========================================
You should already be familiar with Usenet etiquette. If not, the
newsgroups to read are news.newusers.questions and
news.announce.newusers. A particularly useful document is "Emily
Postnews Answers Your Questions on Netiquette" by Mark Moraes
<netannounce@deshaw.com>, stored at rtfm.mit.edu in a document
called "part1" in the directory
/pub/usenet/news.answers/usenet/emily-postnews/

As with all newsgroups, the very best recommendation is for you to sit
back and read for a while before you make your first posting. That
way you can get a proper feel for the newsgroup. Then you will see
which postings you think are valuable and which are wasting space or
preventing good discussion.

rec.music.dylan is not moderated, so within reason anything goes.
However, certain types of postings are generally frowned upon. Here 
follows some guidance:

o  Tirades against other readers of the newsgroup for their
opinions are not welcome.

o  Failure to edit subject heading when replying via the main 
rec.music.dylan digest.  Please ensure you edit the subject line
when posting a Followup-To:  Anyone seeing a posting headed: 

     SUBJECT: Re: HWY61-L Digest - 5 Mar 1999

is likely to choose to ignore it altogether.

o  Posting contact information for bootleg dealers. From time to time 
someone posts a request for contact details of bootleg dealers. Answers 
to these questions should be sent by private e-mail only. To post full 
details to the very public forum of rec.music.dylan is to put the 
dealers at risk. This may once have seemed an hysterical over-reaction 
to the real situation, but these days dealers don't just lose their
stock and face prosecution, in several countries dealers have gone
to prison.  Is it not best to avoid Bob Dylan's work being the most
likely target when those greedy copyright lawyers finally hit the 
Internet in force? We all know Bob Dylan always says yes when his 
lawyers ask him if they should proceed, be it a computer company, a 
transit authority, or a ...

o  Posting your full tape/CD trade listings. Setting up tape trades is 
best conducted via e-mail wherever possible. 

o  Unsolicited trade requests are generally frowned upon, and the
recipients of such requests should not feel guilty about saying no
or ignoring them. A typical situation is when a poster indicates
that he or she has access to or is looking for a certain tape. It
is considered bad form to send email or post to the group a trade
request or "me too" request. Unless you know the person, you will
not likely get a response. Likewise, the recipient of such a request
should not feel obligated to trade with everyone who asks for a
copy.

o  Questions to the group should be clearly indicated as questions in
the subject line to avoid confusing those who are looking for new
information. For instance, a subject header of "New Album" is likely to
mislead those reading your post into expecting to find some news about
a new album. Instead, it is better to ask the question "Is There a New
Album?".

o  To make sure you're not asking a question that has already been recently
answered, or raising yet again a subject that has been extensively
discussed, there are two ways of finding out what's gone on before on
rec.music.dylan.  You may find the answer to your question without having
to wait, and at the same time think of new questions to ask or points to
raise that haven't already been discussed by the newsgroup.
 
(1) Google Groups (formerly Deja News) has archives of all posts made
to Usenet newsgroups. Go to

http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search

Enter "rec.music.dylan" as the newsgroup name in the Newsgroup: box
and your topic, e.g. "thin man" in the subject field. 

The search results will be displayed.  You simply browse through 
the posts. If you want to limit your search still further, e.g. to see how
many posts to rec.music.dylan about Thin Man have been made by Ed Ricardo,
you can also enter his name in the Author: box! 

(2) EDLIS (see section 10 of Part 1 of this FAQ) keeps details of
frequently-raised subjects or threads on rec.music.dylan, such as "Who is
the 13th/15th Century poet mentioned in "Tangled Up In Blue"?". Go to
 
http://www.edlis.org/twice
 
and look through the archived threads. For example,
 
http://www.edlis.org/twice/mr_jones
 
is another way of finding all those Thin Man discussions!

o  Pictures, sounds and other binaries should never be posted to
rec.music.dylan. To share your binary most easily, use a web page
and post the reference URL address to rec.music.dylan. If web 
space is not available, ask on rec.music.dylan for help finding
some or ask 

prison.guard@edlis.org

If this fails, or you prefer to post to a newsgroup, post your
binary to an appropriate alt.binaries.* group and send the 
article IDs and subject lines to rec.music.dylan as a helpful 
pointer. Rec.music.dylan is a text-only newsgroup, where a 
half-megabyte binary can cause serious problems. 

Not everyone is in a school setting or has free local telephone
calls.  In many parts of the world the telephone connection
is paid for by usage and in some the computer account is paid
for by volume!  Don't make yourself look thoughtless by posting
huge binaries. 

o  Key questions to ask of yourself before sending your new posting:

  1. Has this been discussed before?
     (Read the FAQ, follow up any leads, and visit www.edlis.org/twice)
  2. Can I delete more of the quoted text of the message to which
     I am replying, while still achieving the same result?
     (The less quoted the better, because almost everyone has seen
     the original article, and it's still freely available to those
     who haven't)
  3. If I waited 24 hours, would I still want to post this?
     (Especially relevant for posts initiated in anger)
  4. Is this potentially of interest to many people, or would it be better
     sent via private e-mail to one person?
  5. Is this related to Bob Dylan?
  6. Does my subject line reflect the content of my posting?


5. How do I access rec.music.dylan? 
=================================== 
There are two main ways in which to access rec.music.dylan:

a. Usenet news

   1. Contact your Internet provider for instructions on how to access
      Usenet locally, and the newsgroup "rec.music.dylan".

   2. "DejaNews" (now Google)  provides a reading and posting service.
      Refer to the Google posting FAQ for complete information: 

         http://groups.google.com/googlegroups/posting_faq.html

   3. Read rec.music.dylan via the World Wide Web. Newsguy (formerly
      Zippo) provides access to rec.music.dylan at:

         http://www.newsguy.com/news.htm

      To use this service properly please note that when posting via
      Newsguy you need to include in the "From" box your full e-mail 
      address.

      This service used to be free, but it seems that Newsguy now
      wants to charge a fee. 

   4. If Usenet is not available at your Internet site, try joining a
      'freenet' and using their facilities.

b. rec.music.dylan Digests

Obviously rec.music.dylan is a Usenet newsgroup and is best
read with newsgroup reading software like Agent, tin, trn,
or the like.  Then you have full use of threaded subjects
and most importantly KILL files so you can tailor what you
see and what you read exactly to your tastes.  Seeing the
whole of rec.music.dylan without any KILL file would put  
any normal human being off computers for life!
          
If you have no Usenet news reading software you might
have a Web browser and then you can read Usenet news. 
Netscape, Explorer, Opera, lynx or the like are possible
ones to try. Look for some header like News or the like
in the pull down menus...
        
http://home.netvigator.com/~artyeung/free/zenews.htm

gives information on free public Usenet news servers at
which to point your software... You need a newsfeed if
using your own software.

Also you might wish to look at:

http://groups.google.com/googlegroups/deja_announcement.html
             
If you wanted a commercial service you can pay to join
            
http://sub.newsguy.com/nscribe.htm

                  
You don't need anything more than e-mail to post to
rec.music.dylan, just e-mail your posting to one of the  
following:


mail2news@news.demon.co.uk  with header Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
or
rec.music.dylan@pubnews.demon.co.uk
rec.music.dylan@dispatch.demon.co.uk
rec.music.dylan@crs4gw.crs4.it
rec.music.dylan@berlioz.crs4.it
rec.music.dylan@magus.dgsys.com
rec.music.dylan@myriad.alias.net

   (For an updated list send e-mail to mg5n+remailers@andrew.cmu.edu)

But if you have no News reading software and no access to the
World Wide Web or to telnet, then your best bet may be
an e-mail digest!

For many years there have been other specialised digests but they
have tended to be amateur and not public.  EDLIS has decided
to make its own main digest better known, it has always been open
to all but not all knew about it! :-)

It is a feed for those who cannot take the time to sift
through the total madness of rec.music.dylan more widely available.

It is called b0b.  To subcribe send

subscribe b0b-List your@email.address

in the body of your e-mail to

listserv@edlis.org

b0b = b zero b  NOT b oh b.  Anyone who wishes to can subscribe to b0b

No one can post to it.

Subscribers receive about 2% of rec.music.dylan postings.
No spam. No insanity unless Bob related. No religious wackiness
unless Bob related. No insults. No negative posts on any subject,
including Bob.  Sister principle.

If this does not suit you just say.  We will help you set up
a feed that suits your own tastes.

So if no one can post how do you post? You post well to
rec.music.dylan. Simple as that.

Many fine postings will not be included. Setlists for example.
XREFs. And so on. These can easily be seen on rec.music.dylan,
and elsewhere. For example setlists are on

http://www.execpc.com/~billp61/dates.html

b0b is lean. Reading it will give you one person's view
of the top two percent of rec.music.dylan. You can Followup-To:
any post by posting to rec.music.dylan. And you may find it
causes you to turn to the complete rec.music.dylan to follow
the occasional thread in its complete form, or to read all
the postings there.  When you have the time.

Followup-To:s should carefully cut and paste the subject header,
adding a Re: where appropriate.

The purpose is to attract high quality posting, often well
thought out and sometimes researched in detail.  And to
attract readers who would never read rec.music.dylan as they
won't take the time, to read it, or to learn to tailor it
to manageable size with a vicious KILL file.  If you like Bob
Dylan but only want to read about him for few minutes a
week, then b0b may suit you.

If you want to read about Bob Dylan 24 hours a day, then you'll
prefer the original rec.music.dylan, the Usenet NewsGroup.


6. Glossary of terms and acronyms common to this newsgroup.
===========================================================
All areas of knowledge develop jargon and acronyms which inevitably
serve to keep outsiders out and to confuse newcomers. Medical doctors
complicate the simplest things with needlessly difficult terms and
abbreviations, computer experts often make the easy inaccessible to
newcomers with obscure terms and abbreviations by trying to
'simplify' communications, management consultants...  Well, you get
the picture.  People with a serious and debilitating Dylan habit can
also develop these tendencies. Watch for the following obscure
terms...

#Dylan = The name of the Dylan channel on irc.

BoB = Blonde on Blonde [1966] [not a typo for "Bob"!]

b0b = the 2% cream digest of rec.music.dylan 

BotT = Blood on the Tracks [1974]

BIABH = Bringing It All Back Home [1965]

boot = bootleg 

bootleg = circulating copy of officially unreleased material in any
form.  The term is probably derived from 'bootleg' liquor, which was
sometimes smuggled in bottles strapped to one's leg during
Prohibition in the United States, 1918-1933.

Bootleg Series = The Bootleg Series 1961-1991, Rare and Unreleased, 
Volumes 1-3 [1991] - not to be confused with 'bootleg' above, this is
an official release that reveals many songs and performances from
throughout Dylan's career that were previously available only on
bootleg media.  The liner notes of this boxed set mention that
further volumes would be released, but no reliable source has been
able to determine if and when this might actually happen... 

BTW = By the way...
 
EDLIS = Exchange of Dylan Lyrics - Internet Service

GAIBTY = Good As I Been To You [1992]

H61R = Highway 61 Revisited [1965]

IMO = In my opinion...

IMHO = In my humble opinion...

ISO = In Search Of

irc = Internet Relay Chat, an international live real-time
conferencing system with a channel called #Dylan.

JWH = John Wesley Harding [1967]  Some people say this album (and 
its title track) were mis-named after outlaw John Wesley Hardin.  
Dylan's song has very little to do with the story of the real Hardin; 
instead, it's basically just a spin-off of Woody Guthrie's "Pretty Boy 
Floyd." Some Dylan fans note the religious bent of this album and claim 
that the initials 'JWH' really refer to the Judeo-Christian deity...

Krogsgaard = Krogsgaard's 1991 reference book, Positively Bob Dylan
[listed in question 2c of part 2]. A Krogsgaard number would be in a
form such as [7/201]. This refers to item seven in the Krogsgaard
listing for event 201. Badly addicted rec.music.dylan readers can be
told such a number and then immediately sing the relevant item
without reference to the Krogsgaard book itself!

newbie = Sometimes derogatory term for a newcomer to the Internet.
Usually spotted by the newcomer's tendency to post entire trade lists
to the net or to respond to a thread with a single "me too". :-)
Newbies are also susceptible to trolls (see below for an explanation
of a "troll").

Olof = Olof Bjorner. Often you might come across references to "Olof's
Chronicles" or encounter the phrase "according to Olof...". This is in
reference to Olof Bjorner, who has kindly made available for free an
excellent series of posts to rec.music.dylan covering each and every
year in the career of Bob Dylan. Olof's Chronicles provide a quick point
of reference on just about every aspect of the life and times of Dylan.
Olof's Chronicles can be found at http://www.users.wineasy.se/olof.bjorner.

pirate : an illegal copy of officially released material. 

counterfeit : an illegal copy of officially released material made 
to be mistaken for an original release. 
 
RAH = Royal Albert Hall. This refers to the famous, but misnamed
Royal Albert Hall 1966 bootleg that is now generally believed to be
from Manchester 5/17/66.

RMD = The Usenet newsgroup rec.music.dylan. Also abbreviated as r.m.d.
or just plain rmd.

smiley =  An unusual punctuation device, presumably employed only by
computer-users, which looks like a sideways smiley-face:  :-) A
smiley usually means that a comment or article has been written in
jest, and should be read accordingly.  A common variant is ;-) with
the 'winking' eye.  There are many, many variants on the smiley, and
most are used to represent the flairs of spoken language that are
often hard to perceive in text.  :-(

tape tree = A 'pyramid' method of distributing tapes organized by
someone with a good or unusual tape that begs to be circulated. That
person posts an announcement to the newsgroup, asking people to send
e-mail to him to sign up.  He collects the names of those interested,
and creates a 'tree' such that no one has to make an excessive number
of copies, and people with better tape decks make copies for those
without, etc.  The original tape is the 'seed'.  Those who receive
copies from the seed and make further copies are 'branches', and
those who receive copies from branches but don't copy for anyone else
are the 'leaves'.  Sometimes a person who makes copies is called a
'parent' and one who receives copies is a 'child'.  Each person who
receives tapes is expected to send tapes of other events in return to
their branch. If blanks are sent in lieu of recorded tapes, the
person sending blanks is expected to send double the number of blank
tapes to recorded tapes. A less common method is that the person sendng
blanks is expected to pay postage for both the tapes that sent and
the ones received. If trading with a DAT collector who is supplying
you with an analogue cassette, one blank DAT is adequate double
compensation should they not want any blank analogue cassettes from
you. For more information on tape trees, see the URL
http://www.cs.umass.edu/~greene/files/tape-tree-def.txt. Also see
http://www.dylantree.com for a guide to CDR trading.

TOOM = Time Out Of Mind [1997]

troll = A provocative posting made with the intention of generating 
a reaction, ranging from flames and hate mail to trolls which are
intended to spark discussion or controversy. It is best to ignore 
the foolish ones, and be alert to the clever trolls if you are
responding. 

UTRS = Under The Red Sky [1990]

WGW = World Gone Wrong [1993]

WWW = World-Wide-Web

If you're looking for an acronym and can't find it in the above list,
try the acronym server at http://www.ucc.ie/cgi-bin/acronym.
 

7. Is there a Bob Dylan discography available online, or some way to
   order Dylan CDs via Internet?
==================================================================== 
It is beyond the scope of this document to give a true discography
for Bob Dylan, but here is a list of the standard U.S. release full-
length Bob Dylan albums:

Title                           Released        CD Order #
=====                           ========        ==========
Bob Dylan                       March 1962      CK 8579
The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan      May 1963        CK 8786
The Times They Are A-Changin'   January 1964    CK 8905
Another Side of Bob Dylan       August 1964     CK 8993
Bringing it All Back Home       March 1965      CK 9128
Highway 61 Revisited            August 1965     CK 9189
Blonde on Blonde                May 1966        CK 841
Greatest Hits                   March 1967#     CK 9463
John Wesley Harding             December 1967   CK 9604
Nashville Skyline               April 1969      CK 9825
Self-Portrait                   June 1970       C2K 30050
New Morning                     October 1970    CK 30290
Greatest Hits, Vol. 2           November 1971#  C2K 31120
Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid     July 1973       CK 32460
Dylan                           November 1973^  CK 32747
Planet Waves                    January 1974    CK 37637
Before the Flood                June 1974'      C2K 37661
Blood on the Tracks             January 1975    CK 33235
The Basement Tapes              June 1975*      C2K 33682
Desire                          January 1976    CK 33893
Hard Rain                       September 1976  CK 34349
Street Legal                    June 1978       CK 35453
At Budokan                      July 1978'~     C2K 36067
Slow Train Coming               August 1979     CK 36120
Saved                           June 1980       CK 36553
Shot of Love                    August 1981     CK 37496
Infidels                        November 1983   CK 38819
Real Live                       December 1984'  CK 39944
Empire Burlesque                June 1985       CK 40110
Biograph                        October 1985#   C3K 38830
Knocked Out Loaded              August 1986     CK 40439
Down in the Groove              May 1988        CK 40957
Traveling Wilburys Vol. 1       October 1988   Warner Bros. 9 25796-1
Dylan and the Dead              February 1989'  CK 45056
Oh Mercy                        September 1989  CK 45281
Under the Red Sky               September 1990  CK 46794
Traveling Wilburys Vol. 3       October 1990   Warner Bros. 9 26324-1
Bootleg Series Vols. 1-3        March 1991@     C3T 47382
Good As I Been to You           October 1992    CK 53200
World Gone Wrong                October 1993    CK 57590
Greatest Hits III               November 1994#
Unplugged                       April 1995'     478374 2 (European)
Time Out of Mind		September 1997  CK 68556
Live 1966		        October 1998	C2K 65759
The Essential Bob Dylan		October 2000#	
 
This is NOT intended to be a complete discography by any means. Check
the discography file at ftp.cs.pdx.edu for more details on Bob Dylan
releases available on compact disc, or refer to the discography on the
official Bob Dylan website http://www.bobdylan.com.
[see question 5 for help]. 
 
Notes:
'  Live album
#  'Greatest Hits' collection - *most* songs previously released
^  Recorded in 1970, outtakes from Self-Portrait
*  Recorded in 1967!
~  This is the Japanese release date - U.S. release was December 1978
@  Collection of previously unreleased material spanning 1961-1991...

Also of interest are the 30th Anniversary Tribute Concert double-CD
set; "Masterpieces", a triple-CD import collection that contains a few
songs not available elsewhere on CD; and "Live 1961-2000 - Thirty-nine
years of great concert performances" - a Japan-only limited edition
release to coincide with Dylan's 2001 tour.

To buy CDs over the Internet, the two most popular sites are
CDnow.com and Amazon.com. For shops on the Internet selling import
CDs, you might try http://www.punkhart.com/dylan/cds.html.

There have been several 'best album' polls done on the music
newsgroups - the most comprehensive were the 'Usenet Artist Polls'
and are available by anonymous FTP from ftp.uwp.edu in /pub/music/uap
(many polls done on individual artists, not just Dylan).
 
The Dylan albums most frequently recommended by readers of r.m.d are
_Highway 61 Revisited_, _Blonde on Blonde_, _Blood on the Tracks_,
and _The Bootleg Series, Vols. 1-3_, although you'll find staunch
fans of nearly every album...

The Dylan you might like depends more on you than on the opinions of
others. You could describe in reasonable detail your musical,
political, religious and sexual tastes, post that on rec.music.dylan,
and ask for advice...

Additional material may be found at the various WWW and FTP archives.


8. Where can I find lyrics, tablature and other Bob Dylan information
   via Internet?
=====================================================================
The official Bob Dylan lyrics on the web are at the official site:
http://bobdylan.com/lyrics. There is a nice search function which
allows you to find a song even if you remember only one (not too
common) word or phrase.

There are three archive sites from which information regarding Bob
Dylan may be obtained by FTP [If the term "ftp" is meaningless to you
then ask a local computer guru to show you what to do...]:
 
ftp.cs.pdx.edu                  (Portland State University)
ftp.uwp.edu                     (University of Wisconsin, Parkside)
ftp.nevada.edu                  (University of Nevada)

The above are not guaranteed to be current, however there is a very 
nice web site that contains lots of guitar tabs:

http://www.uvm.edu/~ksherloc/dylan/

and you might want to check out:

http://iris.bsd.uchicago.edu/~jrr/bob.html

and the My Back Pages site:

http://hem.passagen.se/obrecht/backpages/chords

Olof's yearly summaries of Bob Dylan concerts and recordings, plus a
number of transcribed interviews, concert/tape reviews, and similar
documents are available by anonymous FTP from ftp.cs.pdx.edu, in the
directory /pub/dylan, and are maintained by Trent Fisher. This site
originated as a replacement to Anthony Kapolka's archives from the
early days of rec.music.dylan, but now includes all of Olof's
archives and other recent files. Of course you can always visit Olof's
own site at http://www.users.wineasy.se/olof.bjorner.

Lyrics to a limited number of Bob Dylan songs, plus some guitar tabs
and other information by be found by anonymous FTP from  ftp.uwp.edu,
in pub/music/artists/d/dylan.bob.

Guitar tablature to many of Dylan's songs can be found on the World
Wide Web at http://www.uvm.edu/~ksherloc/dylan.

An anonymous FTP session begins like this - at your prompt, type:

ftp ftp.uwp.edu  [or whatever site you'll be getting files from]

Enter 'anonymous' (without the quotes) when prompted for a login
name, give your E-mail address as the password.  Use either 'ls' or
'dir' and 'cd' to find your way to the proper directory.

There are also a number of Dylan-related World Wide Web (WWW) pages.
If you do not know what WWW is then you are best advised to ask a
friend or computer technician at your site. You will need appropriate
software (known as Web Browsers). Some examples: Netscape, Mosaic and
Lynx (a text only version).


WWW PAGES DEDICATED TO BOB DYLAN

The Web has grown so fast that it's getting harder and harder to
keep up with all the new web sites. Rather than attempt to catalog
all known Dylan sites, here is a site that has links to all the others:

   http://www.execpc.com/~billp61/boblink.html ("Boblinks", Bill Pagel)

Of special interest is the newly created official website from Sony:

   http://www.bobdylan.com

Plus, if you want to locate more Dylan links than exist on the above
site, you can try the following search engines:

http://www.yahoo.com
http://altavista.digital.com
http://www.mckinley.com
http://www.lycos.com

If you cannot find transcribed music online, you should be able to
find music to all the released albums from good music stores and
suppliers. The most recommended book source is  "Lyrics 1962-1985".
The lyrics 'database' on "Highway 61 Interactive" CDROM, released
1995, covers virtually all of the lyrics from this book, plus all
albums up to 1995. Many songbooks can also be purchased, for example
the book for Good As I Been to You is available from Special Rider
Music Sales, 8/9 Frith St., London W1V 5TZ, England.


9. Is there some way that I can get lists of Bob Dylan concert tapes
   and recordings from past years?
====================================================================
There are various options:

a. OLOF BJORNER'S SUMMARIES
If you've got a little disk space to spare [approx. 1.5 megabytes], 
you can download Olof's year-by-year Bob Dylan archive - which lists 
Dylan's public appearances and recordings, gives handy reference 
tables of songs played on tour, and even lists recommended tapes by 
tour!  The best part is that it's free for your own personal use.  
Don't try printing it out unless you've got the time & ribbons - the 
combined total of all the files would be on the order of 600 pages...  
How do you get it? http://www.users.wineasy.se/olof.bjorner.
 
b. POSITIVELY BOB DYLAN by MICHAEL KROGSGAARD:
(this book is frequently referred to simply as 'Krogsgaard' on this 
newsgroup).  This tome numbers Dylan's circulating performances and 
lists the songs performed at each and every known circulating Bob 
Dylan recording through early 1991. There are always gaps and changes 
as new tapes surface, but this book is essential to the serious 
collector! It provides a fast, easy reference for identifying tapes 
and so on. The main disadvantage of such a serious book is that it 
costs about US$55. Ordering information:  Popular Culture Ink, P.O.
Box 1839, Ann Arbor, MI 48106. (800) 678-8828 / (313) 761-4300.
$55.00 U.S.

c. TANGLED UP IN TAPES by GLEN DUNDAS:
"Tangled Up In Tapes : a Recording History of Bob Dylan".
Paperback - 368 pages 4th edition (April 15, 1999)
Glen Dundas; ISBN: 096985692X 
See <http://www.baynet.net/~gdundas/tuit> for how to order
direct from the author.  Cost is approximately $45.00.

d. THE RECORDING SESSIONS by CLINTON HEYLIN:
Bob Dylan:  The Recording Sessions [1960-1994]". New York: St. 
Martin's Press, 1995.  ISBN:  0-312-13439-8.  Cost is approximately 
$25.00.

e. DYLANBASE:
This is a Windows-based computer program by Chris Cooper. Regular 
updates are planned to strive for accuracy and completeness. Write
to: Chis Cooper, 8 Northgate, Whittlesey, Peterborough, PE7 1RA,
ENGLAND.


10. When and where will Bob Dylan be performing next?
===================================================== 
Since official announcements from Dylan's publicity office regarding
tour dates are rare, we have to rely on local people to look for
advertisements or call ticket agencies and then to inform the rest of
us. If you hear of an upcoming concert in your area, please tell us! 
Set-lists from shows that you have seen recently are also appreciated, 
even if you don't know the titles of all the songs that were played.

Tour dates are usually posted piece-meal to the newsgroup, and
sometimes these postings will contain conflicting or confusing
information.  If your local ticket agency has no knowledge of a
concert date that you saw announced here, don't give up hope.
Agencies such as TicketMaster frequently do not know about particular
shows until a few days before they are authorized to sell tickets for
that show.  Some concert dates start out as rumors and never
materialize, but many rumors do become fact.  Be patient.

For the most up to date information on current tour dates, visit on a 
regular basis:

  http://www.execpc.com/~billp61/dates.html

You can also check the official website:

  http://www.bobdylan.com/live

Mail order tickets for American concerts can now be purchased 
at this site:

  http://www.bobdylan.com/live/mailorder.html

If you know of a concert which is not listed there then please post the 
information to rec.music.dylan.

There are also Dylan hotlines you can ring on the telephone for the
latest information on Bob Dylan events:

USA: 970-243-8025. The Rolling Tomes Hotline - the operator will ask
you to enter the "hotline access number" located in the lower right
corner of the back cover of the current Rolling Tomes catalogue. So
you must either have seen the catalogue or have contact with someone
who has... . A touch-tone telephone is required. The recording is 
updated at least weekly, more often when news warrants it.

John Baldwin maintains a UK-based free telephone information service:
  If calling within the UK, dial 01707-394678
  From overseas: [country code] +44-1707-394678

The EDLIS Tours & Tickets agent <ray@rothley.win-uk.net> compiles all 
the above info and posts updated tour schedules to rec.music.dylan


11. What is EDLIS?
==================
The Exchange Dylan Lyrics - Internet Service is an Internet wide
conspiracy to make available Dylan lyrics for the purposes of
research and/or private study.  Lyrics available are restricted to a
reasonable proportion. Any copying to evade purchase is wrong.
EDLIS consists of a number of loosely affiliated individuals who have
chosen to horde and distribute Bob Dylan information.  This service
includes, but is not limited to, information regarding: Bob Dylan
song lyrics, versions of Bob Dylan songs performed by other artists,
bootleg recordings, and tape trees.
 
If you post a request for specific lyrics (or for detailed boot CD
information) on rec.music.dylan you might find an EDLIS agent answers
your needs magically in your e-mail box. In return, EDLIS is always
in need of transcribed lyrics and information on compact discs, old
and new.  If you are able to type in or scan Dylan lyrics not
presently available on the Internet, please do so - the only reason
that EDLIS sends you anything is because others have contributed in
the past! If you like what EDLIS is doing and wish to help, simply
e-mail

volunteers@edlis.org

Visit the EDLIS home page on the world wide web at

http://www.edlis.org

Of special interest is the "Thing Twice" EDLIS page, where you might
find answers to common questions that have been asked and answered
many times over. The URL is

http://www.edlis.org/twice


12. What if I want to talk about Dylan on-line at all hours?
============================================================
If no one in the same room as you wants to chat about Dylan 24 hours
a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year you might think you have an
insatiable desire. But there is relief! IRC! Internet Relay Chat. On
irc there is always an international live real-time Dylan conference - 
usually in English - waiting for you to join it.

Before joining irc, I recommend checking out several sources for
info:  http://www.doxx.net/html/links.html and
http://www.ben2.ucla.edu/~nate/frames/index.html These pages contain  
several links to different irc resources, including an explanation
of the various networks that make up irc. I strongly recommend
looking at these sites first if you've never been on irc before.
It can save you a lot of headaches later. With that said, you will
need a special program to access irc called a client. For UNIX, I
recommend ircii, available at ftp://ftp2.undernet.org/irc/clients/unix/.
For Mac users, the client of choice seems to be Ircle, available
at http://www.xs4all.nl/~ircle/. Windows users should grab a copy
of mIRC, available at many different sites around the world including
http://pebbles.axi.net/mirc/. Once you have a client installed,
log onto a server and type "/join #bobdylan" or "/join #dylan" to
join the Bob Dylan chat room. Lets say you join though and find to
your dismay that there's no one there? Never fear, just keep looking.
Maybe try a different irc network perhaps. I recommend checking  
out #dylan on efnet.

What you type after that will be seen by all the others on that
channel. If all is quiet simply wait until the lull ends or learn how
to invite others in (/invite), change the topic (/topic) and so on.

Many arrange to meet at the channel by prior arrangement through
e-mail, setting a time to rendezvous.  Bear in mind the time zones
- discussion tends to ebb and flow with New Zealanders and Australians
starting the day, as they begin to flag Europeans join, and Americans
are last to come in, though some #dylan people keep very odd hours
indeed. It is important to keep the various irc networks in mind
here as well. Telling someone you will meet them on #dylan at 0400
GMT isnt enough. If your friend joins newnet while you log into
Dalnet, you wont be able to talk to each other.

Unlike email or usenet, irc is real time information more akin to
a conversation.  Resources can be shared, files can be transferred,
and addresses can be swapped.  In other words, irc is a tape traders
dream come true. If you are looking for that copy of Milwaukee 97
or Des Moines 90, you may just strike gold on irc. It is not uncommon
for people to trade unreleased dylan material on irc in mp3 format.
(mp3 is a  sound compression format that is a much smaller file
than a .wav file yet retaining all of the quality) Even if you
don't find that tape you're looking for, you might find a future
contact.

Treat irc like a Paris street cafe.  If you want to be certain
that stimulating, interesting people are there when you are there,
bring them with you.

If Bob Dylan is performing in a country you can try to see who is on
from that country, such as Japan:

/who *.jp

And then use /invite to invite in unsuspecting irc-ers and ask them
about media coverage, whether they are going to the concerts or know
anyone who is, will they be taking a DAT recorder with them, etc etc
etc.

As with all esoteric computer matters, if the command irc is not
available on your computer, simply ask a local computer guru how to
ftp and compile what you need.

So long as you have full Internet access something should be
possible, and you can join in on the Dylan discussion via irc...

The standard #dylan teatime in London meeting in irc is daily at:

                        Kangerlussuaq
Fairbanks                   13:00  Reykjavik
  07:00                             16:00                     Petropavlovsk
                                     Trondheim                      04:00
                        St John's      17:00
                         13:30           Helsinki
                   Charlottetown   LONDON 18:00
          Hibbing     12:00         16:00   Moscow  Irkutsk
           10:00                             19:00   00:00
                  Greenwich            Paris
 San Francisco     Village             17:00 
     08:00         11:00           Lisbon      Bombay  Kyoto
                                    16:00       21:30  01:00  
       Gallup                      Monrovia        Singapore          Honolulu
        09:00                       16:00            00:00               06:00
                                       Lagos         Perth 
                   Quito Rio de        17:00         00:00 
                   11:00 Janeiro         Harare        Adelaide 
                         13:00            18:00         01:30  
                     Santiago                             Hobart   Dunedin
                      12:00                                02:00    04:00


There are also many DylanChat sites available:

http://mmc.usiu.edu/cgi-bin/interaction.acgi$/chat/dylan
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/bringingitallbackhomeclub
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/smalltalkatthewall

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