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#  From "Douglas Reindl"  <>
#  who graduated and isn't at that address anymore.

Here is a sourdough pancake recipe.  If you
like pancakes, you will love sourdough pancakes.
I like them the best with real maple syrup
(my brother makes the syrup).

		   Doug's Pancakes


2 1/4  Cups of your favorite proofed sourdough
1 1/2  Cups of flour
1      Tbsp of sugar
1      pinch of salt
1/2    Tsp of baking soda
1      Tbsp of baking powder
3/4    Cup of milk
3      Large eggs
1/4    Cup of melted butter


1.)  Mix the eggs and milk together thoroughly

2.)  Then combine with the dry ingredients

3.)  Slowly mix in the butter.

4.)  Cook pancakes over a med to med-hi fire

5.)  For thicker pancakes decrease milk and increase flour
     For thinner pancakes increase milk and decrease flour
	 (it doesn't take much so be careful)

# From David Adams  (

			Sourdough Waffles

		(An adaptation of Doug Reindl's pancake recipe.)

	2 1/4  Cups of your favorite proofed sourdough
	2  Cups of flour
	1      Tbsp of sugar
	1      pinch of salt
	1/2    Tsp of baking soda
	1      Tbsp of baking powder
	3/4    Cup of milk
	3      Large eggs
	1/2-3/4    Cup of melted butter


	1.)  Mix the eggs and milk together thoroughly

	2.)  Then combine with the dry ingredients

	3.)  Slowly mix in the butter.

	4.)  Laddle onto waffle iron and cook.  Watch carefully.
		My sense of smell is the biggest indicator that
		they are done.  I can start to smell the oil burn
		slightly.  Then I flip the iron or open it and
		remove the waffles.

	For a fancier waffle use 4 eggs and separate the yolk from
	the whites.  If you do not have a copper bowl to whip them
	in then add about 1/4 t cream of tartar.

	1a.)  Mix milk with dry ingredients

	2a.)  Slowly mix in the butter.

	3a.)   Whip the eggs until they will hold a peak and then
		gently fold the egg white mixture into the batter.

	4a.)  Procede with step 4 above.

#  From (Lynn Alford)
Subject: Recipes from the Sourdough Jack cookbook

Note:  Sourdough Jack was a place that one could order sourdough
starters from.  My copy of the recipe book dates from 1969 (actually
this is my husbands.  It's all his fault. :-) ).  Anyone in San Francisco
care to find out if Sourdough Jack or Sourdough Jack's Country Kitchen
is still around?

To one cup of starter add two cups of water, and two 1/2 cups of flour.
Let sit for 8-12 hours, depending on how warm your kitchen is and how
active your culture is.


After proofing, remove one cup starter and return it to your sourdough
pot.  To the remaining sourdough add
1 egg
2 tablespoons cooking oil
1/4 c instant dry milk or evaporated milk

Beat thoroughly.  Combine in a separate cup:
1 teaspoon salt
1 teaspoon baking soda
2 tablespoons sugar

Blend together until smooth.  Sprinkle evenly over the dough and gently
fold the dry ingredients into the dough.  Heat up a griddle until fairly
hot then pour batter by the tablespoon on the griddle.  The pancakes
should cook quickly.


Apple Pancakes-grate some tart apples into the batter then cook.
Banana Pancakes-thinly slice or mash banana into the batter then cook.
Crepes- add 1/2 stick butter melted and tablespoon of cognac.

Personal note...I have also used this basic batter thinned down just a
little to make Ethopian type cakes.  Serve with several sorts of curry
(all items in the curries should be finely chopped.)  To eat, tear off a
piece of sourdough, use that to pick up the curry of your choice and
eat.  A fun way to eat your meal, if slightly messy!  This idea came to
me because of going to an Ethopian restaurant and realising that the
texture of the bread/pancakes was very much like my sourdough.

# From: Dave Uebele <daveu@sco.COM>
Sourdough Pancakes (Uebele family recipe)

At Night in large glass or pottery bowl mix -

   1     cup starter
   2 1/2 cups flour
   2     cups milk
Cover and place in warm spot. (oven with pilot/light on, door open)

In the morning remove 1 cup of dough as the new starter.  Store covered
jar of starter in the refrigerator until ready to use again.
Beat together -

   2 eggs
   2 Tablespoons cooking oil

Add to dough and beat thoroughly.
Combine -

   1 teaspoon salt
   1 teaspoon baking soda
   2 Tablespoons sugar

Blend together the salt, soda, and sugar until smooth, eliminating any lumps
of soda. Sprinkle evenly over top of batter; fold in gently. This will cause
a gentle foaming, rising action. Using a Tablespoon of batter per
pancake, bake on a hot griddle (should hear hiss when batter hits griddle).
The pancakes bake better when only a small amount of batter is used.
For waffles, use more cooking oil.

Temperature is the main variable which affects the consistency and sourness
of the batter. A warmer temperature at night will cause the batter to
have more tang and to be thinner by morning.  Also more liquid can be added
for thinner pancakes.  The cookbook says that the starter should always
be proportional to the amount of flour and milk.  However, I have found that
you can almost double the amount or flour and milk without neding
to increase the amount of starter or soda. Experiment to suit your own taste.

The starter is better if it is used at lease onece every two weeks, but
it will keep indefinitely. Each time I use the starter, I return it to a
clean jar, but I never wash the old jar until I have remembered to save
a new starter.  Once the eggs and other ingredients are added, the dough can
not be used as a starter.

# From: Sharon_Patton@NeXT.COM

[Alaskan Blueberry Pancakes].

Made on the Alagnak River at our fishing lodge for many years 300
miles SE of Anchorage and ravished by many fishermen and stranded
weathered in guests.  I got so tired of writing down this recipe,  I
made copies when I went to Anchorage for supplies.

1 cup sour dough starter (I made mine from potato water)
2 cups flour
2 cups milk (I used powdered never had fresh available, but fresh ok)
1 tsp salt

mix above in crock or bowl (not stainless steel) cover with  kitchen
towel or cheescloth, let stand overnight.  In AM when nice and bubbly

2 tsp baking soda
2 eggs
3-4 tablespoons melted shortening or butter
2 tsp sugar
fresh blueberries (if your lucky enough to have them growing around

Pour large silver dollar size batter on hot griddle,  cook and turn.
Serve with lots of syrup and butter and river coffee.  These also
went great in backpacks for endurance on the trail.  The stronger the
starter the stronger the pancake.

# From: (douglas.w.monroe)

	Pancakes & Waffles:

	1C starter dough
	1/2C flour
	3/4C milk
	1 egg
	1/4t baking soda
	2t baking powder
	1/2t salt

Mix well and grill as usual.

# From: (David Adams)

	This recipe was given to me by a friend:


	1 C flour		1 egg, beaten
	2 T sugar		1 C starter
	1 1/2 t baking powder	1/2 C milk
	1/2 t salt		2 T oil (1/4 C for waffles.)
	1/2 t soda

	Combine dry ingredients.  In another bowl combine egg,
	starter, milk and oil and stir into flour mixture.
	Spoon 2 T batter onto lightly greased hot griddle.
	Makes 2 doz.  Remember to increase oil to 1/4 C for

#  From ??

708a--------- Recipe Extracted from Meal-Master (tm) Database ------------708a

     Title: Sourdough Pancakes #1
Categories: Breads
  Servings:  4

    1/2 c  Active Starter                    1/2 c  Pancake Mix
      1 ea Large Egg                           1 T  Cooking Oil
    1/2 c  Milk                              1/2 t  Soda

  Mix all ingredients well.  Be careful not to over mix.  Small lumps are ok.
  Lightly grease a hot cast iron griddle.  Drop onto griddle with a large
  spoon while the batter is still rising.

------------- Recipe Extracted from Meal-Master (tm) Database --------------

     Title: Sourdough Pancakes #2
Categories: Breads
  Servings:  4

      1 c  Active Starter                      1 ea Large Egg
      2 T  Cooking Oil                       1/4 c  Instant Or Evaporate Milk
      1 t  Salt                                1 t  Baking Soda
      2 T  Sugar

  Mix ingredients together and let the mixture bubble and foam a minute or
  two, then drop on hot griddle in large spoonfuls.

------------- Recipe Extracted from Meal-Master (tm) Database --------------

     Title: Sourdough Pancakes #3
Categories: Breads
  Servings:  6

      2 c  Active Starter                      2 c  Unbleached Flour
      1 t  Baking Soda                         2 ea Large Eggs, Well Beaten
      1 T  Sugar                               1 t  Salt
      1 x  Bacon Fat (2 - 3 T)

  Mix well and cook on hot griddle.  Note:  This is good recipe for camping.
  Instead of fresh eggs, you can use 1 T Powdered eggs.

------------- Recipe Extracted from Meal-Master (tm) Database --------------

     Title: Sourdough Pancakes #4
Categories: Breads
  Servings:  4

      1 c  Buttermilk Pancake Mix            1/2 c  Active Starter
    1/2 c  Milk                                1 ea Large Egg
      1 T  Cooking Oil                       1/2 t  Baking Powder

  Mix well and let stand a few moments.  Drop by large spoonsful on hot
  Berries of all kinds can be added to these recipes.

------------- Recipe Extracted from Meal-Master (tm) Database --------------

     Title: Sourdough Pancakes #5
Categories: Breads
  Servings:  6

      3 ea Large Eggs, Well Beaten             1 c  Sweet Milk
      2 c  Active Starter                  1 3/4 c  Unbleached Flour
      1 t  Baking Soda                         2 t  Baking Powder
  1 1/2 t  Salt                              1/4 c  Sugar

  Beat eggs.  Add milk and starter.  Sift together the flour, soda, baking
  powder, salt, and sugar.  Mix together.  Drop onto hot griddle by large
  If ungreased griddle is used add 1/4 c Melted Fat to the above recipe.
  Bacon fat give a great taste.

# From

Debby Rech
Philips Laboratories
345 Scarborough Road, Rm D259
Briarcliff Manor, NY  10510

			Sourdough Pancakes
	 	  (The Wooden Spoon Bread Book)

The night before, in a large mixing bowl, combine:
		1 cup sourdough starter
		1 cup milk
		1 cup flour

Beat well.  Cover and let stand overnight.  The next morning, sift together
and set aside:
		1 cup flour
		1 tablespoon sugar
		1/2 teaspoon baking soda
		1/2 teasoon salt
		1 teaspoon baking powder

Meanwhile stir into the sponge
		2 eggs
		1/4 cup oil

Stir in the sifted ingredients.  Bake on a greased griddle at 375 degrees
until golden brown.  Turn only once.  Makes 16 medium pancakes.

#From: Life is real? <dixon@spot.Colorado.EDU>

                         Ambrosia Batter

     The name of this concoction is taken from the food of the
gods often referred to in Greek mythology.  The title is
appropriate considering the various delectable things that can be
made with it.  No doubt when you mix up your first batch of
sourdough griddlecakes or biscuits, you'll agree.  Here's how you
make it:

     1 cup starter
     1 cup water              1 1/2 cups white all-purpose flour

     Mix the above ingredients in a 2-quart bowl, cover and
     set aside for 24 hours in a place where the temperature
     ranges between 75 and 80.  Remember to use only a bowl
     made of glass or crockery, not metal.  Also make sure
     that your bowl is large enough to allow the mixture to
     double in volume without spilling over the side.
     Ambrosia Batter is burdensome to clean up, especially
     after it has dried.

     Replenish the starter with 1 cup flour and 3/4 cup of warm

                      The American Slapjack

     This country really did not have a homegrown cookbook until
1796 when Amelia Simmons had her modest work of 47 pages published.
Under the title American Cookery, it was first in offering guidance
to the use of such indigenous foods as corn and potatoes.  This
humble compilation was likewise the first to make mention of
America's own pancake, the Slapjack.  The recipe given here
faithfully reproduces this favorite of early American fare.

     Unlike some griddlecake recipes, the American Slapjack
contains no chemical leaveners of any kind.  Although they are not
bad in themselves, baking powder and bicarbonate of soda do lessen
slightly the flavor produced by the long maturing period of
Ambrosia Batter.  American Slapjacks have the wonderful flavor of
an unrepressed, newly-fermented wild yeast.  This is the pancake
for those who want the full rich flavor of sourdough in all its
glory and savor.

     American Slapjacks require more time than most sourdough
hotcakes.  In the early days this presented no problem because the
lady of the house was usually up well before the rest of the
family.  Today, with our faster pace of living, these griddlecakes
might present difficulty if it's a quick breakfast you want.  Try
making them on a Saturday or Sunday morning when you are not
rushed.  Once the Ambrosia Batter has aged for 24 hours, American
Slapjacks require about an hour to re-ferment after they are mixed.

1 recipe Ambrosia Batter                     1/4 cup honey
1 egg                                        1/2 cup milk
2 Tablespoons melted butter                  1/2 teaspoon salt

Mix the egg, milk, honey, butter and salt in a two-quart bowl.  Add
the Ambrosia Batter and beat rapidly for about one minute to mix
and aerate the batter.  Cover and set aside in a very warm place
(85 to 110) for 45 to 90 minutes.  This will cause the batter to
ferment again and become light and bubbly.  After the
refermentation period, move the batter very carefully to the
griddle so as to avoid knocking out any of the leavening gas.
Ladle carefully and fry on a lightly greased griddle.  Makes about
40 dollar-sized hotcakes, enough for 3 or 4.

     The secret of successfully bringing this recipe to flavorsome
perfection is finding a spot warm enough to re-ferment the batter
rapidly.  Provided that it is not above 120, an oven on a setting
of WARM is the ideal place.  Remember to ladle the batter with
great care once it has become foamy.  The presence of the gas
bubbles is what makes the pancakes light.  When directions are
followed carefully, American Slapjacks are the lightest of all the
sourdough griddlecakes and have the best sourdough flavor.

# From David Adams (

"Dutch Oven Cooking", 2nd ed. John G. Ragsdale, Lone
	Star Books, Houston, Texas, 1973.  ISBN 0-88415-224-3.

			'49er Pancakes

		1/2 C sourdough culture		1 T sugar
		2 C flour			1 T oil
		1 C milk			1 T baking powder
		2 eggs				butter
		1/2 t salt			maple syrup

	Stir up everything but the syrup & butter.  Can cook on greased
	inverted lid of the oven.

#	From (Judy Tolliver)

Someone recently asked about sourdough cookbooks and asked for a waffle
recipe.  I LOVE
this cookbook:

Alaska Sourdough
Ruth Allman
ISBN 0-88240-085-1  (pbk)
Available from Alaska Northwest Publishing Co., Box 4-EEE, Anchorage, AK

Here is the waffle recipe from that cookbook.  It's exactly the same for

2 C starter (consistency of thick glue)
2 Tbsp sugar
4 Tbsp oil
1 egg
1/2 tsp salt

Mix these well with wooden spoon.  At this point, add blueberries, if you
want.  In a shot glass, mix a scant tsp of baking soda with a small amount
of water.  Then fold into the batter.  Cook

(I always "recharge" my sourdough with a little flour the night before I'm
going to make


					Judy Tolliver

# From: (dixon bradford n)

                          RECIPES FROM
                       DON AND MYRTLE HOLM

                    The CAXTON PRINTERS, Ltd
                         Caldwell, Idaho

   ----This is an old-time flapjack recipe which was often cooked in a cast
   iron skillet over an open fire, and makes thin Swedish type cakes with
   a delicious nutty flavor and aroma.  It uses a wheat flour starter, or
   part wheat flour (wheat flour can be added to any flapjack recipe for
   good results).

  Make a good flapjack batter the night before, using a cup of starter,
  a couple of cups of flour, and warm water, and set in a warm place until
  morning.  In the morning simply stir up the batter a little (not too
  much!) while the griddle is heating, adding:

	1/4 cup dry skim milk			1/3 cup melted shortening
  2 tsps. salt              2 eggs, beaten
  2 tsps. sugar             1 tsp. baking soda
                                   dissolved in warm water
                                   and added just before spooning
                                   the batter.

Aunt Cora's Flapjacks

  1 egg, beaten                      1/2 tsp. baking soda
  1/2 cup sweet milk                 1 tsp. baking powder
  1 cup sourdough starter            3/4 tsp. salt
  1/4 cup sifted flour (scant)       2 tsps. sugar

  Beat egg, add milk and starter.  Sift flour and dry ingredients.
  Combine the two mixes.  Bake on greased griddle.  However, don't
  combine the two mixes until everything else is ready to serve.
  These hotcakes rise quickly and the batter falls if kept waiting.

    BD> Use only about 1 or 2 TBS batter per cake.  These cakes have a very
        good sourdough taste, and are easy to make (no over night batter).



# From: (dixon bradford n)

                          RECIPES FROM
                       DON AND MYRTLE HOLM

                    The CAXTON PRINTERS, Ltd
                         Caldwell, Idaho

Miss Mary Rogers of Mexico, Missouri Biscuits

  1/2 cup starter                    1 tbsp. sugar
  1 cup milk                         3/4 tsp. salt
  2 1/2 cups flour                   2 tsps. baking powder
  1/3 cup shortening                 1/2 tsp. baking soda
                                     1/4 tsp. cream of tartar

    At bedtime make a batter of the half-cup starter, cup of milk, and
    1 cup of the flour.  Let set overnight if biscuits are wanted for
    breakfast.  If wanted for noon, the batter may be mixed early in
    the morning and set in a warm place to rise.  However, unless the
    weather is real warm, it is always all right to let it ferment
    overnight.  It will get very light and bubbly.  When ready to mix
    the biscuits, sift together the remaining cup and a half of flour
    and all other dry ingredients, except the baking soda.  Work in
    shortening with fingers or a fork.  Add the sponge, to which the soda,
    dissolved in a little warm water, has been added.  Mix to a soft dough.
    Knead lightly a few times to get in shape.  Roll out to about 1/2-inch
    thickness or a little more, and cut with a biscuit cutter.  Place close
    together in a well-greased 9x13 inch pan, turning to grease tops.  Cover
    and set in a warm place to rise for about 45 minutes.  Bake in a 375 oven
    for 30 to 35 minutes.

   BD> I guarantee that these are the best biscuits that you have ever had.
       Everybody who has tried these has liked them very much. :^)

From: Life is real? <dixon@spot.Colorado.EDU>

"" is my brother Brad (Hi Brad!), who
shared the MMRMM (for short) biscuit recipe with me awhile back, and I
I can only concur that these biscuits are the best I've ever eaten.  My
only adjustment to the recipe is that I roll the dough a little
thicker than him, closer to an inch thick, then I just use my
dough blade to cut out a bunch of square biscuits (press...don't saw!).
I make them about 2" square and they turn out very professionally...just
like you get at the best breakfast restaurants.  Remember, use plenty
of flour all over the give them that "home cooked" look, and
to give you something to do while they are baking, i.e. clean up the

I also guarantee these to be the best biscuits you've ever eaten...if
you don't like wife will eat worms! (Reminicent of one of
the early "Joe Isuzu" commercials...haha).

# From: Deborah Branton<moksha!>

The following recipe makes delicious sourdough biscuits, preferred at
our house over the buttermilk variety.

		 S O U R D O U G H   B I S C U I T S

2 c. flour                     1/2   t. salt
1 T. sugar                     1/2   c. margarine
2 t. baking powder             1 - 2 c. starter

Sift the dry ingredients into a bowl.  Cut in the margarine as you
would for regular biscuits.  Stir in one cup of the starter, adding
more as you need to get a ball of dough.  Turn onto a lightly floured
board or cloth, and knead very lightly.  Roll dough one-half inch
thick, and cut into small rounds.  Place them on a cookie sheet, and
bake in a preheated 425-degree oven for about 12 minutes.

					   Yield:  10 - 12 biscuits

COMMENTS:  Part of the flour can be whole-wheat.  Butter can be
substituted for the margarine, and I have successfully made them
using 1/4 cup of margarine and 1/4 cup of peanut oil.  I always make
these without the salt.

# From: Dave Uebele <daveu@sco.COM>

Sourdough biscuits (from 1988 Sunset Recipe Annual)
1   cup sourdough starter
1/2 warm water (90 degrees)
    About 2 3/4 cups all purpose flour
1/4 cup olive oil
1 1/2 teaspoon fennel seed
2   teaspoon baking powder
3/4 teaspoon salt
1/2 teaspoon baking soda
1   egg white, lightly beaten

In a bowl, mix starter, water, and 1 cup flour. For sourest flavor, cover
and let stand in a warm place until bubbly and sour smelling, 12 to 24 hours.
To speed, omit standing; proceed. Stir in oil.

Crush 1/2 teaspoon of the fennel seed. In a bowl, stir crushed fennel,
baking powder, salt baking soda, and 1 3/4 cups more flour.  Add starter
mixture; stir until dough cleans side of bowl.

Turn dough out on lightly floured board and kneed for about 30 seconds;
add flour if required to prevent sticking.  Flour board, then roll out
dough into a 6 by 14 inch rectangle.

Brush dough with egg white; sprinkle with reserved seed. Cut into 2 by 3 inch
rectangles.  Place biscuits about 1/2 inch apart on 12 by 15 inch baking sheet.

Bake in 450 degree oven until deep golden, about 15 minutes. Transfer to
rack and serve warm or cool. Makes 14 biscuits.
Paige Langdon, Redwood City, CA

Dave's notes and comments:
My starter uses milk instead of water. Probably closer to 3/4 cups
milk instead of 1/2 cup water.
I did not have fennel, so I used approx 1 teaspoon of sugar instead.
I also omitted the egg white treatment. Either bake as is or brush with
To make flakier biscuits, use half olive oil and half butter or shortening.
Cut shortening into dry ingedients before adding starter/oil.
Roll out, fold in thirds, roll out, fold in thirds again to put
shortening in layers.  I usually don't try to precisely measure
starter, so you may need to adjust flour or milk accordingly.

I've done several other variations with this recipe.
I've added beer instead of milk when additional moisture is needed (which
seems to be the norm when I do this recipe).
I've also made "pure" sourdough biscuits, by ommiting the baking powder and
baking soda and cutting the salt down.

# From: (douglas.w.monroe)


	1C starter dough
	1C flour
	3/4t baking soda
	1/4t salt
	1/3C butter, softened
	(* may add 1C shredded cheddar cheese, onion and/or bacon)

Whisk together dry ingredients. Add butter & starter-mix well. Drop
by the tablespoon on greased cookie sheet. Bake 350\(de 10-20min.

# From  (David Adams)

	This recipe was given to me by a neighbor lady.


	1 C unsifted flour	1/4 C shortening
	1 T baking powder	1 C starter
	1/2 t salt		2 T melted sugar
	1/2 t soda		1/2 t sugar  (so much?)

	Stir together salt, soda, sugar, baking powder, and flour.
	Cut in shortening.  Stir in starter until it forms soft
	dough that cleans sides of bowl.  Knead in bowl 30 seconds.
	Roll on lightly floured board 1/2" thick.  Cut with 2" cutter.
	Brush tops with butter.  Let rest 15 minutes.  Bake at 425
	deg. F. for 12 minutes.  Makes 16 biscuts.

	For whole wheat:  Use 1 C whole wheat flour in place of white

	Cinnamon Raisin:  Use 1/4 C sugar, add 3/4 t cinnamon and
	1/4 t nutmeg.  Add 1/3 C raisins.

# From: "Andy Kegel, DEC OSF/1 Backup and Mail" <>

	Sourdough Sopapillas

My wife eats them with butter;  I tear off a corner and fill them with butter
and honey.

1 cup	  Sourdough starter
1 cup	  Flour
3/4 tsp	  Salt
1-1/2 tsp Baking Powder
2 Tbs	  Shortening
Cooking oil for frying

Measure starter into a large bowl.  Mix dry ingredients together.  Cut in
shortening until mixture resembles conrmeal.  Add starter mixture to dru
ingredients.  Stir quickly with a fork to moisten dry ingredients.  Turn out
onto lightly floured surfacce and knead until smooth, adding small amounts of
flour as needed.  Cover with clean cloth and let dough rest for five minutes.

Roll out dough into a 12"x15" rectangle about 1/8 to 1/4-inch thick.  Cut into
three-inch squares or triangles.

Drop a few pieces at a time into deep, hot cooking oil at 400F (205C).  Fry
about two minutes on each side or until golden brown.  Sopapillas will puff up
like pillows.  Drain on paper towels.

SERVE WARM with honey and powdered sugar or cinnamon and sugar.  Also
good with
chile verde (or chili colorado, I suppose).  When serving with honey, one of
those "bear dispensers" with a spout works well.

Normally feeds 3-4 people;  my wife and I will devour them all at a sitting.


# From  (David Adams)

	It became apparent after some discussion in the group that
	the word "scone" was used quite differently in Utah than
	in other places.  There it is a deep fried bread dough,
	elsewhere it appears to be a (griddle fried?) biscuit.

		So how's this as a recipe for:


	Next time you make white bread, like with the "world bread"
	recipe, save some of the dough out.  Tear off little pieces
	and either flaten them out or roll and cut shapes or roll
	into little balls, or shape them like animals, let them
	rise for a little while and them drop them a few at a time
	in the hot oil like you would for fritters.  Drain them on
	a paper towl and serve either by rolling in powdered sugar
	or by spreading butter and honey.  (I like them plain
	with no sugar, butter, or honey.)

From: "Sharen Rund" <>

        Reply to:   RE>fried bread dough

I know a restaurant that shapes the dough to look like breadsticks - when its
golden brown, quickly removes it from the oil and rolls it in a combination of
granualted garlic and parmesean cheese - delicious

#	From: julie@eddie.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Julie Kangas)

Here's the recipe for blueberry muffins from the
Jake O'Shaughnessey's Sourdough Book.

[shameless cut and paste follows]

                               Blueberry Muffins

          Sourdough makes incomparable blueberry muffins.  You can also
     make this recipe without the blueberries if you wish.  With or without
     them, serve these muffins with lots of butter and jam.  They are
     perfect for breakfast.

        1 recipe altered Ambrosia Batter
           Use 1 cup starter, 1 1/4 cups all-purpose flour, 1 cup water,
           1/4 cup toasted wheat germ.
        3/4 cup blueberries, well drained if canned
        1 egg, slightly beaten                    1/2 cup brown sugar
        3/4 cup whole wheat flour                 2 teaspoons baking powder
        1/3 cup powdered milk                     1/2 teaspoon salt
        1/4 cup butter

        Mix the egg with the Ambrosia Batter. Separately, combine all the
        dry ingredients and then cut in the butter.  Add the Ambrosia
        Batter and stir only enough to wet the ingredients.  The batter
        should have a lumpy, rough-textured appearance.  Very gently mix in
        the blueberries.  Pour the completed batter into buttered and
        floured muffin tin, filling each cup 3/4 full.  Place muffin tin in
        an over which has been preheated at a setting of "warm." Allow the
        muffins to rise for 15 minutes, remove from the oven and reset it
        to 400 degrees.  When the oven is hot, bake the muffins for 25 to
        30 minutes.

These are very good.  I wouldn't have thought blueberries and
sourdough would go together but they do!


# From David Adams (

	Here are some recipes I picked up from a short chapter on sourdough
	in a Dutch oven cook book I picked up at the scout trading post
	at camp.  "Dutch Oven Cooking", 2nd ed. John G. Ragsdale, Lone
	Star Books, Houston, Texas, 1973.  ISBN 0-88415-224-3.  Note, this
	is not the same Dutch oven book I usually quote from, which book
	has the same title.

			Miners' Muffins

		1 C sourdough culture		1 egg
		2 C flour			2 T oil
		2 C milk			1 t baking powder
		1/2 C sugar			1/2 t salt

	Mix all ingredients.  Cook in muffin tins or cupcake holders.
	30 min.

	(The book is scarce on temperatures.  I suppose the assumption
	is that the Dutch oven cook goes by feel and experience any way.)

	You can try greasing the cupcake paper lightly to keep dough from
	sticking.  12-15 muffins

809--			Western Biscuits                                   809

		1 C sourdough culture		1/2 C margarine
		2 C flour			2 t baking powder
		1/3 C milk			1/2 t salt

	Stir up everything.  Pat out on flat, floured surface.  Cut out
	biscuts with round object and place in oven.  (Can be preheated.)
	Cook until golden brown.  Makes 25 biscuits.

# From:

Just to add to the confusion, here in NZ we also have Girdle (griddle)
scone.  Now I would think that the scones we have here are of English
origin.  Anyway, as promised here are a couple of scone recipes, the
sort typically made by every NZ housewife.


3 cups flour
1/4 teaspoon salt
4 1/2 teaspoons baking powder
50g (2 ounces) butter
1 to 1 1/2 cups milk

Sift dry ingredients.  Rub in butter.  Add milk and quickly mix t a
soft dough with a knife.  Turn out on a floured board.  Pat into shape
about 3/4 inch thick.  Cut into scquares (or use a biscuit cutter and
cut into circles about 2 1/2 inches across.  Place on a cold tray and
put in a hot (450F, 230C) oven for 10-15 minutes till golden brown.
Split and butter and add jam,jam and whipped cream, or jelly or honey,
golden syrup, or Vegemite (yay) or just have with the butter alone.

811--                                                                      811

Cheese Scones

3 cups flour
4 1/2 teaspoons baking powder
1/2 teaspoon salt
pinch cayenne pepper
1/2 cup grated cheddar
about 1 cup milk
more cheese

Sift dry ingredients, add cheese.  Mix to a light dough with the milk.
Turn out onto a floured board and pat (or roll) out.  Cut.  Place on
an oven tray.  Put some more grated cheese on each scone.  10 minutes
at 425F (215C).
Sometimes I like to put 1/2 to 1 teaspoon of curry powder in the
scone.  Really brings out the cheese flavour.

812--                                                                      812

Girdle Scones

1 cup flour
1 teaspoon baking powder
pinch salt
1 tablespoon butter
Milk to mix

Sift dry ingredients.  Rub in butter.  Add sufficient milk to make a
fairly soft dough.  Roll out fairly thin.  Make into a round.  Cut into
eight.  Cook on a hot greased girdle (griddle) five minutes on each side.

My Mum's girdle was an oval slab out cast iron about 15x10 inches,
with an arched handle which went from end to end.  It was placed over
a stove element to get hot then the girdle scones were put on.  She
also used it for making pikelets.

Pikelets?  Wellll.  They are like small pancakes.  They are served
room temperature, not too long after baking, either buttered, or
sometimes with jam and cream.  Also popular for afternoon tea.  This
afternoon tea thing is more popular with an earlier generation than
mine.  People sitting rounf eating scones, pikelets, biscuits
(cookies) cake and drinking cups of tea (best china).  My generation
(baby boomers) is more into coffee mornings except that most of use
work these days and don't have time...  We make muffins :-) for ours

# From (Marilee Marshall)


1 tsp. salt
1 tsp. soda
1 egg, slightly beaten
1/2 cup buttermilk
1/2 cup oil
2 tsp. grated orange peel
3/4 cup starter

Mix dry ingredients together.  Make a well in the center.  Mix all
wet ingredients together and then pour all at once into the flour
well.  Stir just to barely moisten (about 12 strokes).  Better will
be very lumpy.

Fill muffin tins to 2/3 full.  Bake at 375* for about 30 minutes.
Makes 12-15 muffins.

#  From Tim Dudley <> ()

This one is from the Font of All Sourdough
Knowledge book ("Adventures in San Francisco Sourdough Cooking"
by Charles Wilford).  I haven't made them, but everything else I've
made from this book has turned out really well.

If anyone makes them, I guess we should get a Full Report...


(The original recipe isn't in metric - as I recall, a Tbs is about 15g,
a tsp is about 5g, a cup is about 240ml, an egg yolk is about an egg
yolk...someone who knows better should probably correct this)

1-1/2 cups proofed batter  (360 ml)
1 cup hot water  (240 ml)
2 TBS butter  (30g)
3 TBS sugar (seems like a lot to me...)  (45g)
2 tsp salt (10g)
5-1/2 cups flour  (1320g)
1 egg yolk
2 Tbs thick cream or evaporated milk  (30ml)
coarse salt
Yield: 20 pretzels, about 4 to 5 inches across, hard crust, soft center

1.  Let all ingredients and utensils come to room temperature
2.  Add the 2 TBS butter, the TBS, sugar, and the 2 tsp salt to the
      cup of hot water.  Cool to lukewarm.
3.  Put the proofed batter into a warm bowl.  Add the water mixture
      after it has cooled.
4.  Add 4 cups of flour, 1/2 cup at a time, stirring after each addition.
5.  Turn out onto a floured board and knead in approximately 1-1/2
      cups more of the flour.  The dough will be very stiff.
6.  Place the dough in a greased bowl, turn over, and cover.  Let set
      for 2 hours to proof.
7.  On a board which has been scraped clean of flour break of pieces
      of the dough about the size of a large egg.  Roll each piece out
      with the palm of your hands until it is about 18 inches long and
      about 1/2 inch in diameter (46cm x 1-1/4cm).  Twist into the
      shape of a pretzel.
8.  Place on a greased cookie tin.  Brush them with egg yolk mixed
      with the 2 TBS cream or evaporated milk.  Cover and place in a
      warm 85F (30C?) degree spot for 30 minutes for proofing.
9.  After proofing, brush again with the egg and cream mixture, and
      sprinkle with coarse salt.
10. Bake in a preheated 425F (218C) degree oven for 15 minutes.
      Remove and cool on wire racks.

#  From (Tim Weaver)

Thanx for the recipe.  I finally got around to trying it, and they're
great.  Crisp outside, soft inside, great with yellow mustard.

I didn't notice any characteristic sour taste, but I also had a very
short (8 hours) proofing time for the starter.  Even so I got great
tasting soft pretzels.  I'm thinking Christmas treats here.
# From (Brent Cullimore)


(Modified from Sunset Breads book, P. 92)

2 C 	starter
2/3 C 	warm water
3 tbs	sugar
1 tsp	salt
~4 C 	flour
~3 qts	boiling water
1 egg,	beaten

Mix sugar, salt, starter, water, and 2 1/2 C flour in a large bowl
until pulls away from sides of bowl.  Add 1 more cup of flour with
a spoon.  Knead until smooth, and let rise in a greased bowl until
doubled (about 4 hours for my starter).

Punch down, knead briefly, and divide into 12 even lumps.  Shape
each lump into a ball, then push a hole through to form bagel.
Let rest 1/2 hour or more (I let them double again) on greased

Preheat oven to 375F.

Bring 3 qts water to boil (some folks add a little sugar to the
boil), then adjust heat until boiling steadily but gently.

Lift bagels off sheet with a spatula, drop them into the water
one at a time. Boil for a minute, then turn over for another minute.
Lift out with a slotted spoon onto baking sheet (drain if they're
too wet).  Brush them with beaten egg.

Bake 20 minutes or until golden.

They're great right out of the oven, but try them toasted as well
the next day.

#	From Tim Dudley <> ()

Here's the bagel recipe from Wilford's book "Adventures
in San Francisco Sourdough Cooking and Baking".  (This is
in  "Chapter 9: Breads of Other Lands" !  Ah yes, California...)

As for the disclaimer: I haven't tried these, but everything
else I've tried from this book has turned out well.  David will
almost certainly put any review of this recipe in the FAQ...


(I almost feel apologetic, bringing this group back to reality.
 "Watch things turn sour?"  "Proof positive"??  "Trying to get
  a rise"??  "Last thing you needed"??   ouch.  Back to the

  1 1/2 cups proofed starter (sponge, batter, etc...)
  1 3/4 cups flour
  1 tsp salt
  3 TBS sugar
  3 TBS salad oil
  2 eggs
  2 TBS sugar in 4 quarts boiling water

Yield:  12-14 bagels

1.  Assemble all ingredients and utensils.  Let ingredients come
     to room temperature.
2.  Sift 1 1/2 cups of the flour, 1 tsp salt, and 3 TBS sugar into
     a warm bowl.  Stir in the 3 TBS salad oil and the 2 eggs.
3.  Stir in the 1 1/2 cups of proofed starter, and add enough
     additional flour for the dough to leave the sides of the bowl.
4.  Turn the dough onto a well floured board and knead in
     enough additional flour to make the dough smooth and
     elastic (about 1/4 cup).
5.  Place in a warm greased bowl, cover, and set the bowl in
     a warm 85-degree F. spot until doubled in bulk.  This will
     about two hours.  When doubled, punch down and let proof for
     an additional 1 1/2 hours, or until doubled in bulk again.
6.  Turn the dough out onto a floured board and divide it into
     12-14 equal pieces.  Roll each piece into a 6-inch roll about
     3/4 inch thick.  Pinch the two ends together to form a
     doughnut shape.
7.  Boil the 4 quarts of water and add the 2 TBS of sugar.  Drop
     each bagel into the boiling water one at a time.  Boil only
     4 at at time.  Cook until they rise to the top of the water, and
     then turn over and cook for two minutes longer.
8.  Remove with a slotted spoon and place on a greased cookie
     sheet.  When all have been boiled and placed on the cookie
     sheet, put in a preheated 375-degree F. oven and bake for
     20-25 minutes until crusty and golden brown.




# From: Lawrence Allen Hite <>

Here's a recipe for a coffee cake that I sort of dreamed up.  The
times are variable to your starter and technique...

Raspberry/Cream Cheese Coffee Cake

Mix the following together to form a smooth dough:
  2 C. starter
  3/4 C. milk
  2 Tbs. vegetable oil
  1 tsp. salt
  1/2 C. sugar
  1 beaten egg
  3-1/2 C. bread flour

Let this rise until doubled in bulk (It took about 4 hours for my culture).
Knead this for 5 to 10 minutes, then split into two balls.  Roll each out
into a rectangle about 12 X 16 inches.  Mix together 8 oz. softened cream
cheese and 4 Tbs. sugar and beat until fluffy.  Spread half of this on each
rectangle.  Spread 4-5 Tbs. raspberry jam (or you can substitute your
favorite flavor or omit entirely if you like) over cream cheese layer.  Now
either leave flat as is or fold over and make slits in the top surface to
expose the filling and let the dough rise a couple of hours.  Bake at 375F
for about 25 minutes.

# From: Roger Campbell <>

     Last week I was browsing through a few cookbooks, and saw a recipe
in a copy of 'Joy of Cooking' for Sourdough Chocolate Cake !!  I immediately
decided to try it (chocoholic that I am).  For the first try, I felt I
should follow the recipe as printed, and did so (well, almost;  I did
substitute cake flour for all-purpose flour).   The cake turned out very well,
it rose well, with a good body, not one of those package-cake fluffy
things with the texture of cotton candy !  But it was not tough, either.
All-in-all, a good cake, and the flavor was excellent.  I frosted it
with a chocolate cream cheese-confectioners sugar frosting.   The recipe

Have all ingredients at room temperature.  Preheat oven to 350 degrees F.

Cream thoroughly:
   6 tablespoons butter
   1 cup sugar
Add and beat:
   2 eggs
Stir in, then beat well:
   1   cup sourdough starter
   3/4 cup milk
   3   oz. melted semisweet baking chocolate
   1   tsp. vanilla
Sift together:
   1 3/4 cups sifted all-purpose flour   ( I used cake flour )
   1     tsp. baking soda
   1/2   tsp. salt
Fold the flour mixture into the batter and stir until smooth.  Pour
   into two greased 1 1/2 inch by 8 inch round cake pans, or one
   9 inch square cake pan ( I used round pans ).  Bake for about 40
   minutes for one square pan, or 25 minutes for two round pans, or
   until a cake tester comes out clean.

       I liked the way the cake turned out, and now I will experiment a
bit.  One thing I want to try, is to substitute cocoa  for the baking

     By the way, I read that Baking -Soda-  when used with an acid
ingredient, will react like baking powder, but the resulting crumb
will be much lighter than that produced with baking powder.  I will
also check this out in my experiments.

#  From: (Stephanie da Silva)

Sourdough Chocolate Cake

1 cup sourdough starter
2 cups all-purpose flour
1 1/2 teaspoons baking soda
1 teaspoon ground cinnamon
1/2 teaspoon salt
1/2 cup butter
1 1/4 cups sugar
1 teaspoon vanilla
2 eggs
3 squares (3 ounces) unsweetened chocolate, melted and cooled
1 cup milk
Cocoa Cream Cheese Filling
Sweet Chocolate Glaze

Bring sourdough starter to room temperature.  Grease and flour two
9 x 1 1/2-inch round cake pans; set aside.  Stir together the flour,
baking soda, cinnamon, and salt.  In a large bowl beat the butter with
an electric mixer on medium speed for 30 seconds.  Add sugar and
vanilla; beat till fluffy.  Add eggs, one at a time, beating 1 minute
after each addition.  Beat in the melted chocolate.

Combine the sourdough starter and milk.  Add dry ingredients and milk
mixture alternately to beaten mixture beating till well combined.
Turn the batter into prepared pans.  Bake in a 350F oven about 30
minutes or till done.  Cool 10 minutes on wire racks.  Remove from
pans; cool thoroughly on wire racks.  Fill with Cocoa Cream Cheese
Filling and glaze cake with Sweet Chocolate Glaze.  Drizzle a design
atop with reserved cream cheese icing and top with white chocolate
leaves.  Makes 12 servings.

Cocoa Cream Cheese Filling

1 cup sifted powdered (confectioner's, icing) sugar
1 3-ounce package cream cheese
1/4 teaspoon vanilla
2 tablespoons unsweetened cocoa powder
1/2 cup sifted powdered sugar

In a small mixwer bowl beat together the 1 cup powdered sugar and
cream cheese till fluffy.  Beat in the vanilla.  If necessary, beat
in enough milk (about 2 teaspoons) to make of pouring consistency.
Reserve 1/4 cup of the mixture and set aside to decorate the top of
the cake.  Stir the cooa powder into the remaining mixture in the
bowl.  Add the 1/3 cup powdered sugar and beat till smooth.  Use the
cocoa mixture to spread between cake layers.  Makes 2/3 cup filling;
1/4 cup icing.

Sweet Chocolate Glaze

3/4 cup sugar
2 tablespoons cornstarch
1 cup water
2 squares (2 ounces) German sweet chocolate, cut up
1 1/2 teaspoons vanilla

In a small saucepan combine the sugar, cornstarch and dash salt.  Stir
in water and chocolate.  Cook; stir till chocolate is melted and
mixture is thickened.  Cook; stir 2 minutes more.  Remove from heat;
stir in vanilla.

Cover surface with clear plastic wrap or waxed paper.  Let stand 10
to 15 minutes or till slightly cooled and of spreading consistency.
Spread glaze over top and sides of cake.  Chill cake till set.  Makes
1 1/2 cups glaze.
Stephanie da Silva                        Taronga Park * Houston, Texas                           568-0480   568-1032

# From (David Adams)

	This recipe was given to me by a neighbor lady.


	Mix 2 C starter, 1 C lukewarm milk and 1 1/2 C flour until
	smooth.  Add 2 eggs and 1/4 C oil and beat well.

	Blend in small bowl:  1/4 C sugar, 1 t salt, 1/2 t soda and
	1/2 C flour.  Mix well into dough.

	Turn out onto 1 C flour and knead lightly until most of flour
	is worked in (dough is soft.)  Place in greased bowl and turn to
	grease too.  Cover with wax paper and let rise until doubled.
	Then turn onto 1/2 C flour on board.  Pat to 1/2" thick.  Cut
	and put on well floured sheet and let rise until doubled.
	(Don't cover!)

	Fry only 3-4 in hot fat at once and fry raised side (top) first
	turning only once.

	Drain.  Makes 4 doz.

#  From: (dixon bradford n)

                          RECIPES FROM
                       DON AND MYRTLE HOLM

                    The CAXTON PRINTERS, Ltd
                         Caldwell, Idaho

   Sourdough Sams Doughnuts

  1/2 cup sourdough starter           2 egg yolks or 1 whole egg
  1/2 cup sugar                       1/2 tsp. nutmeg
  2 tbsps. shortening                 1/4 tsp. cinnamon
  2 cups flour                        1/2 tsp. baking soda
  1 teaspoon baking powder            1/2 tsp. salt
	1/3 cup sour milk or buttermilk

    Sift dry ingredients, stir into liquid, roll out, and cut.  Then heat
    some oil to 390 and fry.  This is an easy way with no interruptions.
    Makes 17 doughnuts and holes.  Dust with granulated sugar or a mixture
    of cinnamon and sugar in a shake bag.

  These doughnuts are virtually greasless.  And if you want you can make
  several batches at a time and freeze.  They keep well and to me taste
  after a while in the freezer.  Take out as many as needed and thaw and put
  sugar on or eat plain.

# From ??

------------- Recipe Extracted from Meal-Master (tm) Database --------------

     Title: Sourdough Applesauce Cake
Categories: Cakes
  Servings:  4

      1 c  Active Starter                    1/4 c  Dry Skim Milk
      1 c  Unbleached Flour                    1 c  Applesauce
(Homemade IfPos.)
    1/2 t  Salt                                1 t  Cinnamon
    1/2 t  Nutmeg                            1/2 t  Allspice
    1/2 t  Cloves                              2 t  Baking Soda
    1/2 c  White Sugar                       1/2 c  Brown Sugar
    1/2 c  Butter or Margarine                 1 ea Large Egg, Well Beaten

  Mix together the starter, milk, flour, and applesauce, and let stand in a
  covered bowl in a warm place.
  Cream together the sugars and butter.  Add the beaten egg and mix well.
  Add spices.  You may also add a half cup of raisins or chopped nuts, or
  a mixture of the two.
  Beat by hand until well mixed and no lumps reamian.  Bake at 350 degrees F
  for half to three quarters of an hour.  Test for doneness with a knife when
  half an hour is up.  Allow to cool until cold before cutting and serving.

907---------- Recipe Extracted from Meal-Master (tm) Database -------------907

     Title: Sourdough Banana Bread
Categories: Breads
  Servings: 12

    1/2 c  Shortening                          1 c  Sugar
      1 ea Large Egg                           1 c  Mashed Bananas
      1 c  Active Sourdough Starter            2 c  Unbleached Flour
      1 t  Salt                                1 t  Baking Powder
    1/2 t  Baking Soda                       3/4 c  Chopped Walnuts
      1 t  Vanilla OR                          1 t  Grated Orange Peel

  Cream together the shortening and sugar, add egg and mix until blended.
  Stir in bananas and sourdough starter.  Add orange peel or vanilla.  Stir
  flour and measure again with salt, baking powder and soda.  Add flour
  mixture and walnuts to the first mixture, stirring until just blended.
  Pour into greased 9 x 5-inch loaf pan.  Bake in 350 degree oven for 1 hour
  or until toothpick comes out clean.  Cool to cold before slicing.

908---------- Recipe Extracted from Meal-Master (tm) Database -------------908

     Title: Mendenhall Sourdough Gingerbread
Categories: Desserts
  Servings:  4

      1 c  Active Sourdough Starter          1/2 c  Hot Water
    1/2 c  Molasses                          1/2 t  Salt
      1 t  Baking Soda                       1/2 c  Firmly Packed Brown Sugar
      1 ea Large Egg                       1 1/2 c  Unbleached Flour
      1 t  Ginger                              1 t  Cinnamon
    1/2 c  Shortening

  Cream brown sugar and shortening and beat.  Then add molasses and egg,
  beating continuously.  Sift dry ingredients together and blend into hot
  water.  Then beat this mixture into creamed mixture.  As the last step, add
  the sourdough starter slowly, mixing carefully to maintain a bubbly batter.
  Bake in pan at 375 degrees F for about 30 minutes or until done.  Serve
  with ice cream or whipped cream while still hot if possible.

# From David Adams  (

"Dutch Oven Cooking", 2nd ed. John G. Ragsdale, Lone
	Star Books, Houston, Texas, 1973.  ISBN 0-88415-224-3

			Mountain Cobbler

		1 C sourdough culture		2 t cinnamon
		1 1/2 C flour			1/2 C oil
		1/2 C brown sugar		2 cans cherry pie filling
		1/2 C sugar

	Mix starter, flour, sugars, cinnamon, and oil in a bowl.  Place
	cherry filling in bottom of oven; then spread the bowl of mix on top.
	Bake 25-30 minutes in covered oven.  Serves 8.


		1.  Blueberry filling instead of cherry
		2.  Add 1 C of raisins with the fruit filling
		3.  Add 1/2 C of chopped pecans.

	Never a mention of temperature or number of coals or amount
	in any of these recipes.  From experience you can omit the
	yeast in the "Rancher's bread".   You might expect a little
	longer wait, but the times given are reasonable for the Alaskan
	culture I use.  Also you might try replacing the 1 C water with
	a second C sourdough culture.  You should expect this to make
	at least 2 loaves for a 10" oven.


# From: Henry (H.W.) Troup <HWT@BNR.CA>

Here's my version of the recipe, received with a starter that has so
much sugar it seems to be all yeast and  no bacteria; my starter is
still going after two years in my care.  I'd be will to try to dry it
if anyone wants.

Starter care instructions omitted...

"Amish Friendship Bread"

	1 cup starter
	2/3 cup oil
	1 cup sugar
	3 eggs
	1 tsp vanilla
	2 cups flour
	1 tsp cinnamon
	1 1/2 tsp baking powder
	1/2 tsp baking soda
	1/2 tsp salt

Mix listed ingredients -- I'd sift the dry ingredients together first,
but the original sheet doesn't say to.

You may top with candied fruit, nuts, or apple slices before baking.
Pour into 2 well greased sugared loaf pans.  Bake 40 to 50 minutes at
350 degrees.  Cool ten minutes before removing from pan.

  Henry Troup - HWT@BNR.CA (Canada) - BNR owns but does not share my opinions
!erutangis ruoy otni suriv erutangis siht ypoc to nevird ylsuoicsnocbus era uoY


I've kept most/all of the sourdough recipes posted to both
the net and the sourdough/bread machine groups.  However,
they are on UNIX, so I've got macros included in the files.
I've culled the Amish starter recipes from my file and taken
out the macros and formatted them for readability.  I take
no responsibility on how the recipes turn out, I've not
tried any of them. they are.

1000.1 --                                                            -- 1000.1


	  John D. Holder, University of	New Mexico, Albuquerque

       I have made friendship bread several times with a gift
       starter,	and I have a pretty good guess as to how to make
       one.  This is slightly different	than most sourdough-type
       starters.  I would either dissolve one package of dry active
       yeast in	a half cup of warm water or milk.  If you use
       water, add one cup milk,	one cup	flour, and one cup of
       granulated sugar.  If you use milk, add one half	cup milk,
       one cup flour, and one cup of granulated	sugar.	Set in a
       warmish place, like near	the stove, and stir once daily for
       5-10 days.  This	makes about 3 cups of starter.	Most
       recipes for friendship bread that I've seen  call for one
       cup of starter to start out with, so as tradition dictates I
       would keep a cup	of starter for myself and give the other
       two cups	to two friends with the	recipe.

	   Henry Troup,	Bell Northern Research,	Ottawa,	Canada

       Original	Instructions:

	  o Keep only in a ceramic bowl, covered.

	  o Never refrigerate.

	  o Stir daily.

	  o Feed every five days with 1	cup flour, 1 cup sugar and
	    1 cup milk.

       Split into four,	bake one part, keep one	part, and give two
       to friends.

       A quick calculation indicates that in 160 days (32
       replications) every person on the planet	will have some
       muffin starter.	And it will take a lot of flour	to feed	all
       of those.


	  o Keep in a covered bowl.  I transfer	it to a	clean bowl
	    every month	or so, usually when I'm	baking.	 Mine sits
	    on top of the microwave

	  o Refrigeration will slow down the starter, usually a
	    good idea.	Freezing for over a month will kill it.	 I
	    refrigerate	the starter when I go away for more than a

	  o Stir daily.

	  o When it looks thin and watery, or smells of	alcohol, or
	    you	want to	bake with it, feed with: 1/2 cup flour,	1/2
	    cup	sugar and 1/2 cup milk.

       It's okay to feed it and	not bake immediately, but it really
       should be split between every two feedings.  The	objective
       is to keep the yeast in the starter reproducing,	as opposed
       to fermenting.

	   Henry Troup,	Bell Northern Research,	Ottawa,	Canada

       1 cup starter	     2/3 cup oil    1 cup sugar	     3 eggs
       1 tsp vanilla	     2 cups flour   1 tsp cinnamon
       1 1/2 tsps baking powder       1/2 tsp baking soda   1/2 tsp salt

       Mix listed ingredients -- I'd sift the dry ingredients
       together	first, but the original	sheet doesn't say to.  You
       may top with candied fruit, nuts, or apple slices before
       baking.	Pour into 2 well greased sugared loaf pans.  Bake
       40 to 50	minutes	at 350 degrees F.  Cool	ten minutes before
       removing	from pan.

			       Gary Heston

       1 cup flour   1 cup milk	  1/4 tsp salt	 1 friend with starter

       Proceedure: take	flour, milk and	salt to	visit friend with
       starter.	 Add each to friends' starter, mixing well. Divide
       starter in half,	returning one part to friend, and taking
       other half home with you.  Place	your part in your starter
       bowl. You now have a Friendship Bread Starter.

		AMISH FRIENDSHIP BREAD (10 day Sour Dough)
				Serap Ogut

       Cover the starter, set on the counter, DO NOT REFRIGERATE.

       Day 1-4	: stir everyday
       Day 5	: add 1	cup flour, 1 cup sugar and 1 cup milk
       Day 6-7	: stir
       Day 8-9	: do nothing
       Day 10	: add 1	cup flour, 1 cup sugar and 1 cup milk

       Pour 1 cup starter mix in three cups, to	give away.

			 To the	remaining mixture add
       2/3 cup oil		   1 cup sugar		 2 cups	flour
       1 1/2 tsps baking powder	   1/4 tsp salt		 1/2 tsp vanilla
       3 eggs			   1/2 tsp baking soda	 2 tsps	cinnamon
       Raisins & nuts (optional)

       Beat batter and pour into 2 well	greased	bread pans.  Bake
       for 1 hour at 350 degrees F.


       Keep at room temperature	Use a glass container.	Do not use
       a metal spoon (use a wooden one)	Do not refrigerate. Use
       only plain (non-rising) flour.

       Day  1  The day you get your starter, do	nothing
       Day  2  Stir with a wooden spoon
       Day  3  Stir with a wooden spoon
       Day  4  Stir with a wooden spoon
       Day  5  Add 1 cup flour,	1 cup sugar, 1 cup milk	and stir
       Day  6  Stir with a wooden spoon
       Day  7  Stir with a wooden spoon
       Day  8  Stir with a wooden spoon
       Day  9  Stir with a wooden spoon
       Day  10	Add 1 cup flour, 1 cup sugar, 1	cup milk and stir.

       Get three glass containers and put one cup of mixture in
       each container,	Give a copy of these instructions and a	cup
       of starter to 3 friends.	 To remaining batch add	2/3 cup
       oil, 3 eggs, 1 tsp vanilla, 2 cups flour, 1 cup sugar, 1	tsp
       cinnamon, 1 and 1/4 tsp baking powder, 1/2 tsp baking soda,
       and 1/2 tsp salt.  Pour into 2 well greased and sugared loaf
       pans, or	1 bundt	pan. Top with anything you like	such as,
       sliced apples, dried or candied fruit, nuts, coconut, etc.
       or leave	plain  Bake at 350 degrees F for 40 to 50 minutes.
       (Check after 30 minutes.)  COOL 10 MINUTES BEFORE REMOVING
       FROM PAN.  Slice	and serve.

	     AMISH FRIENDSHIP BREAD (Original Starter Recipe)
		       Linda DiSanto, Austin, Texas

       1 package active	dry yeast   2 1/2 cups warm water   2 cups sifted flour
       1 Tbsp sugar

       Dissolve	yeast in 1/2 cup of the	warm water in a	deep glass
       or plastic container.  Stir in remaining	warm water, flour
       and sugar.  Beat	until smooth.  Cover with loose	fitting
       cover. DO NOT REFRIGERATE!  The starter requires	10 days	for
       fermentation as follows:

--------------- CUT HERE OR PRINTER WILL JAM ----------------------------

       DAYS 1, 2, 3 and	4:     Stir batter
       DAY 5:		       Add 1 cup each milk, flour, sugar and stir
       DAYS 6, 7, and 8:       Stir batter each	day
       DAY  10:		       Add 1 cup each flour, sugar, milk; stir.

       The batter is ready to use.

       This makes 3 cups batter	to use in the recipes. If you want
       to you may pout 1 cup batter each into 3	containers and give
       1 or 2 away.

       Save 1 cup to begin process all over again OR you can use
       all 3 cups batter for the recipes at 1 time and when you
       want to bake these again	just start the starter again.

       OR use the other	cup of batter to make the bread	or cake.

			       Cindy Smith

       My sister-in-law	gave me	this recipe for	Amish Friendship
       Bread along with	a jar-full of the starter mix.	Do not use
       metal spoon and Do not refrigerate dough!!

       day 1 --	Receive	starter	and do nothing
       day 2 --	Stir once each day with	wooden spoon
       day 3 --	Stir once each day with	wooden spoon
       day 4 --	Stir once each day with	wooden spoon
       day 5 --	Add 1 cup flour, 1 cup sugar, 1	cup milk and stir
       day 6 --	Stir once each day with	wooden spoon
       day 7 --	Stir once each day with	wooden spoon
       day 8 --	Stir once each day with	wooden spoon
       day 9 --	Stir once each day with	wooden spoon
       day 10 -	Add 1 cup flour, 1 cup sugar, 1	cup milk and stir.
		pour into containers of	1 cup each and give to 3 friends
		with copy of recipe (or	2 friends and keep 1 start
for yourself)

       To the remainder	add:

       2/3 cup oil  1 1/4 tsps baking powder  3 eggs	1/2 tsp baking soda
       2 cups flour	 1/2 tsp salt	      1 cup sugar  2 tsps vanilla
       2 tsps cinnamon

       Pour into 2 well	greased	and sugared loaf pans.	Bake 40	to
       50 minutes at 350 degrees F.  Cool 10 minutes before
       removing	from pan.  The bread may be frozen for a later date
       (note the starter).

From: (Mats Wichmann)

Well, heck, here's the recipe for Amish loaf that passed through here a
little over a year ago.  Don't have the culture, though - didn't thik
much of it, so didn't make any effort to keep it alive after passing it
on.  If "everybody" has seen this, it might be interesting to see if
the recipe differs amongst those who had it passed to them...after
all, stories always seem to mutate when passed from person to person...
do recipes also, or are they scrupulously preserved?

Amish Friendship Loaf

	Day 1	The first day with the starter do nothing
	Day 2	Stir
	Day 3	Stir
	Day 4	Stir
	Day 5	Add: 1 cup flour, 1 cup milk, 1 cup sugar; stir well
	Day 6	Stir
	Day 7	Stir
	Day 8	Stir
	Day 9	Stir
	Day 10	Add: 1 cup flour, 1 cup milk, 1 cup sugar; stir well

DO NOT use metal spoon, bowl, or pan

DO NOT refrigerate

Batter will expand, so should be placed in a larger bowl or container
on receipt

On Day 10 - pour 1 cup batter into each of three containers and give to three
	    friends, with a copy of these instructions

The remaining batter will be a little more than a 1 cup.
Add 2/3 cup oil, 2 cups flour, 1 cup sugar, 1 1/4 tsp baking powder,
3 eggs, 1/2 tsp each of: salt, cinnamon, vanilla or baking soda.
Pour into two well greased loaf pans.

Bake at 350 for 50-60 minutes.

Cool 10 minutes, then remove from pans.

Mats Wichmann
Systems Software Consultant
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From: JERRY PELIKAN <C05705GP@WUVMD.Wustl.Edu>
Subject:      Amish Friendship Bread

The recipe that I got with my Amish Friendship bread goes like this:

No metal spoons or bowls!  Do not refrigerate!

Day 1:  do nothing
Day 2,3,4:  stir
Day 5:  Add: 1 cup flour
             1 cup sugar
             1 cup milk
Day 6,7,8,9:  stir
Day 10: Add: 1 cup flour
             1 cup sugar
             1 cup milk

Pour one cup of batter into each of 2 containers and give to two freinds.

To remaining batter, add:

      2/3 cup oil                 1/2 t    baking soda
      3       eggs                1 1/2 t  baking powder
      1 cup   sugar               1 t      cinnamon
      2 cups  flour               1/2 t    salt
                                  1 t      vanilla
Add two cups of fruit or nuts.  Pour into two greased and floured
loaf pans.  Bake 45 - 50 minutes at 350 degrees.
Cool 10 minutes & remove.

# From: (douglas.w.monroe)

Amish Frienship Bread:

	1-1 1/2C starter dough
	2/3C sugar
	2t cinnamon (or 1t cinnamon, 1/4tallspice,& 1/2t nutmeg)
	1 1/4t baking powder
	2C flour
	1/2t salt
	1/2t baking soda
	3 eggs
	(*1 1/2 cups chopped nuts, apples, raisins, etc. optional)

Mix together with whisk all dry ingredients. Add remaining
ingredients and mix well. Add nuts or fruit and blend well. Grease
& sugar 2 loaf pans or 1 tube pan. Bake 350\(de


# From: Tom Molnar <>

	Essene Bread

I just thought I'd share a new "discovery" of mine with the list.  It's
not sourdough bread, but it is pretty neat bread (well, I think so anyway).

My "Uprisings" whole grain bread book referred to a bread called "Essene"
bread.  Their version of this bread is unyeasted, and made entirely of
sprouted wheat.  Sprouted wheat goes through stages where the starchy
part gets converted to sugars, and the sprouts taste sweet.  This bread
is made of ground up wheat sprouts when they reach this stage. The resulting
bread tastes very sweet indeed, as if you soaked it in honey.  I was pleasantly
surprised by the results, so I'm passing it on to the rest of you.

Basic method:
	Sprout the wheat:

		- use 1 to 2 cups of organic hard wheat berries (otherwise
		  it may not sprout if treated with something)

		- put in one or two large jars, cover the mouth of the jar
		  with cheesecloth or something, soak the berries in tepid
		  water overnight,

		- drain water next day, and rinse the berries once in the
		  morning, and once in the evening.

		- when the sprouts are about 2 or 3 times as long as the
		  berry it should be ready (taste it along the way to see
		  how the flavour changes)

	Grind the sprouts:

		- dry off the sprouts a little by skipping the last rinse

		- preheat oven to 250F

		- use a regular meat grinder, grind the sprouts into
		  a bowl (coating the grinder parts with oil makes cleanup

		- squeeze out air from the glob of "dough" and shape into
		  rolls or round loaves.

		- grease a baking tray, sprinkle with corn meal, put rolls
		  or loaves on tray.


		- essene bread takes a long time to bake, 2.5 to 3 hours at
		250F, perhaps longer.  You must not bake it at high
		tempuratures.  The bread will be moist on the inside
		so don't pick it up off the tray like a regular loaf or
		it will fall apart.  The bread is done with the bottom
		is resilient and the outside develops a crust -- but it will
		be moist and appear uncooked on the inside.  It should
		solidify somewhat as it cools.

So the bread is made entirely of sprouted wheat, no yeast or salt added.  I've
heard some people grind dates in with the bread, but it turns out
sweet enough for me.

This FAQ was compiled by David Adams and posted by Darrell Greenwood
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