Archive-name: fat-acceptance-faq/clothing/europe
Posting-Frequency: monthly to *.answers, bi-weekly to soc.support.fat-acceptance and alt.support.big-folks Last-modified: April 21, 1999 Version: 2.0 See reader questions & answers on this topic! - Help others by sharing your knowledge Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) about Clothing for Big Folks: Europe This document contains information about clothing for fat people in Europe, excluding the UK, which has its separate FAQ. If you don't find what you're looking for here, try one of the related FAQs (see question F1 for a complete list). - -------------------------------------------------------------------- Changes from last version: Added addresses for several stores located in Norway. See section B3. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- Contents SECTION A: FAQ about clothing for big folks in the Netherlands A1) How do I convert between sizes? A2) Where can I find clothing catalogues in the Netherlands? Part 1) Clothing catalogues for women Part 2) Unisex or miscellaneous clothing catalogues A3) Where can I shop for clothes? Part 1) Retail clothing for women Part 2) Retail clothing for men A4) Where can I find bridal wear? A5) Where can I find sewing/knitting patterns? SECTION B: FAQ about clothing for big folks in Norway B1) How do I convert between sizes? B2) Where can I find clothing catalogues? Part 1) Clothing catalogues for women B3) Where can I shop for clothes? Part 1) Retail clothing for women Part 2) Retail clothing for men SECTION C: FAQ about clothing for big folks in Sweden C1) How do I know what size I am, and how do I convert between sizes? C2) Where can I find clothing catalogues? Part 1) Clothing catalogues for women C3) Where can I shop for clothes? Part 1) Retail clothing for women SECTION D: FAQ about clothing for big folks in the rest of Europe D1) How do I convert between sizes? D2) Where can I find clothing in the rest of Europe? SECTION E: European Web Pages about clothing for big folks SECTION F: Information about this FAQ F1) Are there other related FAQs? F2) Posting information F3) Availability of the FAQ F4) Contributors - -------------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------------------------------------------------------------- SECTION A: FAQ about clothing for big folks in the Netherlands A1) How do I convert between sizes? Here are some conversions between general European, UK, and US sizes: Women's dresses and suits UK size is 2 more than US European size is 30 more than US i.e., UK 28 = US 26 = Euro 56 Women's shoes UK sizes are 1.5 less than US i.e., UK 8 = US 9.5 Men's suits and coats UK sizes are the same as US European sizes are 10 more than US/UK i.e., UK 56 = US 56 = Euro 66 Men's shirts UK sizes are the same as US i.e., UK 20 = US 20 Men's socks UK sizes are the same as US i.e., UK 10.5 = US 10.5 Men's shoes UK sizes are 1 less than US i.e., UK 10.5 = US 11.5 For better guidelines, here are the measurements for women's sizes in the Netherlands (all measurements in cm). If your figures differ, please pass them on to the FAQ maintainer. Women's Sizes Sizes 40 42 44 46 48 50 52 54 56 58 BUST 91 96 100 104 110 116 122 128 134 140 HIP 99 102 105 109 114 120 126 132 138 144 WAIST 75 78 81 85 90 96 102 108 114 120 These are the sizes for normal length women (1.64m). There is also a set of sizes for short women (under 1.60m) and tall women (unknown). These are derived from the normal length sizes by dividing by 2 (short) or multiplying by 2 (tall). Thus a short woman, having the measurements of size 52 above would actually have size 26. Some catalogues cater to short women, and there are sewing patterns for both short and tall women available. Bra sizes: 1) Measure around the body directly under the bust. Round the number to the nearest multiple of 5. This is your bra size. 2) Measure around the fullest part of your bust. The difference between 2) and your bra size is your cup size. CUP SIZE AA A B C D DD E F FF G 10-12-14-16-18-20-22-24-26-28-30 - -------------------------------------------------------------------- A2) Where can I find clothing catalogues in the Netherlands? Also check the list of shops. Some of them do mail order. Note that the country telephone code for the Netherlands is 31. Part 1) Clothing catalogues for women Ulla Popken BV Ginnekenstraat 141, 4811 JG Breda Telephone: 076 - 20 88 21 (mo-fr 8.00-16.30 live, else machine) Fax: 076 - 20 94 92 URL: http://www.ullapopken.com/UllaPopken/WorldWide.asp Sizes: 42 to 56, some models up to 60 bra's C to F cups (also several shops in the Netherlands, and Germany, Austria and Switzerland, see the URL for complete listings) Part 2) Unisex or miscellaneous clothing catalogues Wehkamp BV Postbus 400, 8000 AK Zwolle Antwoordnummer 600, 8000 XD Zwolle (ordering only, free) Telephone: 038-264777 (Customer Services) 06-0606 (Free calling, computer ordering only) 038-264264 (ordering only, mo-fr 8.30-21.00 and sa-su 9.00-17.00 live, else computer) Fax: 038-264830 Sizes: women's 34-60, men's 44-62, bra's AA to G cups Otto BV Postbus 90200, 5000 LX Tilburg Antwoordnummer 5000, 5005 AA Tilburg (ordering only, free) Telephone: 013-666666 (mo-su 0.00-24.00) Fax: 013-651565 Sizes: women's 32-62, men's 40-62, bra's A to F cups Neckermann Nederland BV Antwoordnummer 28, 4530 VB Terneuzen (free) Telephone: 01150-40044 (information, mo-fr 9.00-17.00) 01150-40000 (ordering only) 06-0688 (free, computer) Fax: 01150-40640 Sizes: women's 32-62, men's 40-62, bra's A to F cups - -------------------------------------------------------------------- A3) Where can I shop for clothes? Note that the country telephone code for the Netherlands is 31. Part 1) Retail clothing for women BB Fashions Noorderhagen 66 c 7511 EM Enschede tel. 053-4314649 lingerie and clothing Big Size Fashion Zuidhoek 214 b 3082 PR Rotterdam tel. 010-4293466 fax. 010-4295046 stocks luxury lingerie for women (also for transvestites & transexuals) Christina mode in grote maten Walstraat 37 7411 GJ Deventer tel. 0570-612527 fax. 0570-610955 women's clothing, ranging from casual to well-dressed Gran Diva Veerplein 19 Zwijndrecht tel. 078-6123377 young clothing Part 2) Retail clothing for men Club Languit Laanstraat 83 Baarn tel. 035 5418665 en Troelstraplein 14 Meppel, tel. 052 253683 specializes in clothing for tall and fat men; jeans up to 62", shirts up to collar 54, jackets up to 70, underwear up to 14; medium priced http://www.worldaccess.nl/~clublang/index.htm G&G Special sizes Brugstraat 22 9711 HZ Groningen The Netherlands tel. +31 50 3121675 - -------------------------------------------------------------------- A4) Where can I find bridal wear? Most bridal shops do made-to-measure bridal wear in all sizes. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- A5) Where can I find sewing/knitting patterns? Burda Patterns has a magazine for full-figured women, sizes 44 - 60 and 22-26 (thus short) This is also available in Belgium and Germany. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------------------------------------------------------------- SECTION B: FAQ about clothing for big folks in Norway B1) How do I convert between sizes? Sizings are European (see section A1). - -------------------------------------------------------------------- B2) Where can I find clothing catalogues? Note that 47 is the country code for Norway. Part 1) Clothing catalogues for women Ellos AS Postboks 210 1411 Kolbotn tel. 66 99 75 00 fax. 66 99 75 99 clothing sizes 36-56, lingerie 36-58 (though not all clothing past size 46-48) Miss Mary of Sweden Postordre Nytt AS Postboks 57 1751 Halden tel. 69 18 21 00 fax. 69 18 45 45 clothing, lingerie and swimsuits sizes 38-60 B3) Where can I shop for clothes? Note that 47 is the country code for Norway. Part 1) Retail clothing for women BiB Fashion Grev Wedelsg. 4B 3111 Toensberg tel.33 31 47 70 sizes 42-56 Big Lady Skippergt. 23 0154 Oslo tel. (+47) 22 41 34 51 sizes 44-56 Boutiqe XL Storgt. 4 1531 Moss tel. 69 25 77 37 sizes 42-56 Cappuccino Xkernveien 145 (Xkern Senter) sizes 36-60 Chic Stor Mote Gyldeloevegt. 1D 4611 Kristiansand tel. 38 02 01 80 sizes 42-56 Cinderella Storgt. 23 2800 Gjoevik tel. 61 17 56 66 sizes 42-56 Dominique Gml. Ringeriks vei 37 Bekkestua 67 53 51 14 Sizes 40-60. Erica Design Hollendergt. 5 5017 Bergen tel. 55 23 23 49 sizes 42-56 Gerd's Stor Mote Bogstadv. 11 0355 Oslo tel. 22 46 62 20 and also Romerikssenteret 2040 Kloefta tel. 63 98 21 28 sizes 42-56 Hanne's Mote Kongegt. 29 3256 Larvik tel. 33 18 21 70 sizes 42-56 H&M (chain store)--Oslo Oslo City Aker Brygge Karl Johan Storo Shopping Bogstadveien sizes 38-54/56 KappAhl (chain store)--Oslo Grensen 3 Oslo City sizes 42-56 underclothes to 105E Karma Markedsgt: 17 8450 Stokmarknes tel. 76 15 26 80 sizes 42-56 Lady Large Storgt. 112 3921 Porsgrunn tel. 35 55 90 20 sizes 42-56 LaLina Waldemar Thranesgt. 22 0171 Oslo tel. 22 60 03 80 Lingerie, with Bras Cup A-H Other sizes 36-58 Lindex/Generous (chain store)--located in Oslo Bogstadveien 40/42 Erich Mogensxnsv. 38 Karl Johans gt. 27 Storg. 2 Oslo City Stranden 3 (Aker Brygge) Stovner Senter 3 sizes 46-52 Marina Rinaldi Karl Johans gt. 37/41 (Paleet) Oslo sizes 38-52 Maxiline Storgt. 9 6002 Aalesund tel. 70 13 22 00 sizes 42-56 Mona Lisa Olav Tryggvasonsgt. 21 7011 Trondheim tel. 73 92 94 55 sizes 42-56 Monzu'si Trondhjemsvn. 275 0589 Oslo tel. 22 72 22 00 sizes 36-58 Pip Stormote Gamle Stokkav. 1 4300 Sandnes tel. 51 63 11 61 and also Oestervaag 9 4013 Stavanger tel. 51 89 35 55 sizes 42-56 Piraten Akersgt. 32 0180 Oslo tel. 22 42 70 91 This one is special. No sizes, just a section with big clothes for "big girls". The style is more "alternative", the stock consists of skirts and dresses and unisex shirts. The owner claims that Pavarotti bought a shirt last time he visited Oslo! And not too expensive. Note: I recently went into Piraten. While I liked the unique clothes, the nicest outfits were only offered in the smaller sizes (approx. size 12). Most of the clothing offered for larger sizes were nothing more than shapeless garments and very unflattering. Stort og Flott Smauet 6800 Foerde tel. 57 82 00 17 sizes 42-56 Unik Broetergt. 1 2000 Lillestroem tel. 63 81 00 94 and also Oevre Torggt. 3 3017 Drammen tel. 32 89 45 90 sizes 38-54 Youngs Mote Youngstorget 1 Oslo sizes 36-54 Part 2) Retail clothing for men Dressman/Mr. Big Storgaten 26 Oslo sizes to 72 Follestad & Co Storgt. 28 0184 Oslo tel. 22 17 36 36 sizes 44-74 Herremagasinet Storg. 28 Oslo sizes 44-72 - -------------------------------------------------------------------- SECTION C: FAQ about clothing for big folks in Sweden See also Section E. C1) How do I know what size I am, and how do I convert between sizes? Sizings are European (see section A1). - -------------------------------------------------------------------- C2) Where can I find clothing catalogues? Note that 46 is the country code for Sweden. Part 1) Clothing catalogues for women Ellos Ab . 501 86 Boras tel. 033-33 000 clothing sizes 36-56, lingerie 36-58 Miss Mary of Sweden Box 44038 . 506 02 Boras tel. 033-13 72 05 fax. 033-13 40 30 clothing, lingerie and swimsuits sizes 38-60 C3) Where can I shop for clothes? Part 1) Retail clothing for women Asico AB (Lillhagsv"agen 50) Box 2021 422 43 Hisings-Backa (G"oteborg) tel. 031-51 87 40 Bella Grande AB G"otgatan 99 111 62 Stockholm tel. 08-641 02 57 Berit P. "Ostra Hamngatan 50A 411 09 G"oteborg tel. 031-711 56 11 Big Chic (Fr"olunda Torg) Box 47 421 44 V"astra Fr"olunda (G"oteborg) tel. 031 49 70 70 Classy AB "Ostergatan 2 211 25 Malm"o tel. 040-30 32 80 Domani Designers Luntmakaregatan 54 111 37 Stockholm tel. 08-19 96 54 Eja's XL Mode ("Ostra Torggatan 19) Box 64 651 03 Karlstad tel. 054-21 77 74 E'nemesis Storgatan 44 . 573 32 Tranas tel. 0140-530 10 fax 0140-530 11 Extra Large Butik Landsv"agsgatan 4 413 04 G"oteborg tel. 031-701 00 60 . . Inte sa smatt Storgatan 29 272 32 Simrishamn tel. 0414-148 58 Madame Chic Kaggensgatan 32 392 32 Kalmar tel. 0480-234 30 Max-Elle Kyttgatan 23 811 30 Sandviken tel. 026-25 29 02 Mulligt & Gulligt Brytaregatan 15 981 34 Kiruna tel. 0980-193 51 NK Dam avd. collection plus "Ostra Hamngatan 42 G"oteborg tel. 031-10 72 55 sizes 42-52 knitwear and tricot Robusta i Ronneby Karlskronagatan 9 372 30 Ronneby tel. 0457-158 20 Rund & Rosig Tullportsgatan 7D 761 30 Norrt"alje tel. 0176-239 02 Stinas kl"adbutik Svedbergsgatan 11 913 31 Holmsund tel. 090-17 91 21 Storartat Boutique H"otorget 1 . 502 32 Boras tel. 033-41 96 70 XELLE Alstr"omersgatan 24 541 31 Sk"ovide tel. 0500-41 38 04 Nya Stadens Torg 1 531 31 Lidk"oping tel. 0519-286 40 - -------------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------------------------------------------------------------- SECTION D: FAQ about clothing for big folks in the rest of Europe D1) How do I convert between sizes? See section A1. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- D2) Where can I find clothing in the rest of Europe? Not many items in this section so far, please send any other information you might have. You might also want to check the lists for the Netherlands. Some chains of shops occur across continental Europe, for example Ulla Popken (see Section E for URL with complete worldwide store listings). Also Burda sewing patterns are available in Belgium and Germany. Drim Dendermondsesteenweg 1a Aalst Belgium ladies fashions sizes 40-54, including French designers Gerard Pasquier, Weinberg, Eva Negri, Mary West, Umberto, Monza... High and Mighty Continental Office, Bahnstrasse 40, 40210 Dusseldorf, Deutschland. Vox: +49 211 131135 Fax: +49 211 124125 Chain for men's clothing found in the U.K., Germany, Holland, and Belgium. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------------------------------------------------------------- SECTION E: European Web Pages about clothing for big folks A Finnish page, "Fashion Fit Patterns" provides a service for patterns created by computer to fit any size. You can send off for information by email or post. The URL is http://www.finhost.fi/fashion/fashion.htm A Swedish page, maintained by "Overviktigas Riksf"orbund (The Swedish Association of Overweight People) of large-size clothing shops is http://www.overvikt.se/index.html This is the page for Marin Mode, a manufacturer of ladies plus size clothing in the Natherlands. They supply main stores in the Netherlands and elsewhere in Europe, and also have the occasional bargain offer sold directly from their web site. http://www.etrade.nl/marin_mode Ulla Popken has women's clothing sizes 12 and up; there are many shops in Germany, the Netherlands, Austria, Switzerland and Belgium. You can also order a catalogue online. http://www.ullapopken.com/UllaPopken/WorldWide.asp - -------------------------------------------------------------------- - -------------------------------------------------------------------- SECTION F: Information about this FAQ F1) Are there other related FAQs? Yes. The list of them below can be found from the following page: http://www.sover.net/~astarte/fa/faqs.html fat-acceptance-faq/clothing/canada information about clothing for large people in Canada fat-acceptance-faq/clothing/uk information about clothing for large people in the UK fat-acceptance-faq/clothing/us information about clothing for large people in the US fat-acceptance-faq/health information about health issues affecting large people fat-acceptance-faq/research information about research concerning large people fat-acceptance-faq/maternity information about large-size maternity resources fat-acceptance-faq/sports information about resources for sports and activities for large people fat-acceptance-faq/fitness information about resources for fitness for large people fat-acceptance-faq/organizations information about organizations for large people fat-acceptance-faq/resources information about resources for large people (that aren't covered in the other resources FAQs) fat-acceptance-faq/physical information about resources for dealing with the physical aspects of being large fat-acceptance-faq/publications information about publications for large people fat-acceptance-faq/size-acceptance information about size-acceptance big-folks-faq general information file for alt.support.big-folks There is some overlap in the topics covered by the FAQs. If you don't find what you're looking for here, try the other FAQs. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- F2) Posting information This document is posted monthly to news.answers, alt.answers and soc.answers, and posted bi-weekly to alt.support.big-folks and soc.support.fat-acceptance. Alexandra Nielsen (zandra@online.no) maintains this FAQ. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- F3) Availability of the FAQ All FAQs posted to news.answers are archived at rtfm.mit.edu and its mirror sites. You can get any of these FAQs from rtfm.mit.edu via anonymous FTP or via the mail archive server. (To get information about the mail server, send email to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with the body of the message containing the word "help", without the quotes.) FAQs posted to news.answers are also available on the Web from: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/top.html This particular FAQ is archived at rtfm.mit.edu and its mirror sites under the filenames: /pub/usenet/news.answers/fat-acceptance-faq/clothing/europe /pub/usenet/soc.answers/fat-acceptance-faq/clothing/europe /pub/usenet/soc.support.fat-acceptance/ Big_Folks_Clothing_Europe_Frequently_Asked_Questions_(FAQ) It is available on the Web at: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/ faq/usenet/fat-acceptance-faq/clothing/europe/faq.html although the latest version specifically adapted for HTML and maintained by the maintainer can be found at http://home.sol.no/~geirerni/Alexandra/faq_europe.htm The file Big_Folks_Clothing_Europe_Frequently_Asked_Questions_(FAQ) contains the last post to soc.support.fat-acceptance which has the same subject line as this FAQ. In general, this is the most recent copy of the FAQ. Occasionally, however, it is a random post that has the same subject line as this FAQ. If this is the case, please look in one of the other files. The files named europe and the file available via the WWW, contain the last version of the FAQ posted to news.answers. Since this FAQ is posted to alt.support.big-folks and soc.support.fat-acceptance more often than it is posted to news.answers, sometimes the version available via these links is not the most recent one. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- F4) Contributors These are the people who have contributed significant chunks to this FAQ. Sharon Curtis (Sharon.Curtis@comlab.ox.ac.uk) Elly Jeurissen (obistat@plex.nl) Birgitta Szanday (birgitta@utri.no) Anders Stigo (stigo@swipnet.se) Also, lots and lots of other people (too many to credit) contributed information that appears herein, some via email and some on a.s.b-f. Thanks to them all. Suggestions for additions/improvements are always welcome. If you have information you think should be here (either in response to an existing question or in response to a new question), send it to the maintainers. If you think another question should be addressed here, and you do not have the information for it, post the question to s.s.f-a and drop a note to the maintainers suggesting that it be in the FAQ. Also, please let us know if any of this material is incorrect or out-of-date. In particular, if you have new information about clothing in other countries, please send it to the maintainers. We would be very happy to update this information to include more countries. Copyright 1998 by Alexandra Nielsen (zandra@online.no). Permission is granted to copy and redistribute this article in its entirety for non-commercial use provided that this copyright notice is not removed or altered. 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