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                           Flat-Coated Retrievers

   Cindy Tittle Moore, January 1995.
   With the invaluable help of:
     * Alison Taub,
       For her generous loan of books and materials on the FCR.
     * Mike Richman,
       For maintaining the FCR-L mailing list.
     * The comments on preliminary drafts made by Kurt Anderson, Mary
       Beth Bissig, Eleanor Brown, and Mark Reynolds.
     * The books all listed in the Resources section below.
     * Handouts and articles available from the Flat Coated Retriever
       Society of America.
   Revision history:
     * Nov 1995: Web sites added.
   This article is Copyright 1995 by Cindy Tittle Moore. All rights are
   reserved. Individuals may download and print a copy for their personal
   use. Distribution is encouraged, but not for profit. FCR rescue
   organizations, FCR breed clubs, and FCR breeders all have express
   permission to freely distribute this article, provided this Copyright
   and the article remain intact, and provided the recipient is not
   required to pay for it.
Table of Contents

     * History
     * The Flat-Coated Retriever Today
     * Characteristics and Temperament
     * Care and Training
     * Frequently Asked Questions
     * Standards for the Flat-Coated Retriever
          + AKC Standard, 1990
          + British Standard, 1985
     * Health and Medical Problems
          + Patellar Luxation
          + Elbow and Hip Dysplasia
          + Thyroid
          + Cancer
     * Resources
          + Breed Books
          + Retriever Training Books
          + Periodicals, Pamphlets
          + Breed Clubs in the US
          + Breed Clubs in Canada
          + Breed Clubs in the UK
          + Field and Hunting Clubs
          + Breed Rescue
          + Breeders
          + Email List and Web Sites
          + Contacts Online

   Due to the increasing popularity of shooting flying birds (and the
   corresponding need to _find_ the birds) in the mid 19th century, the
   initial Retriever breeds were developed. Some breeds, such as the
   Golden, were carefully bred for by a single individual, others such as
   the Labrador were isolated in one or two kennels for their
   development. Still others were developed as gundog fanciers tried
   breeding the "best to the best" and intermixing a wide variety of
   breeds and abilities. The general confusion over the origins of the
   Retrievers partly lies in the fact that at this time the word
   "retriever" referred to the function rather than the breed of dog, and
   so any dog that proved itself capable of retrieving was considered
   one, whether purebred, crossbred or mongrel.
   Spaniels, setters, and waterdogs quickly proved themselves the best at
   this type of work and provided the foundation for all of today's
   Retrievers, in varying proportions. However, the exact sequence of
   development is in many cases lost in the distance of history; even
   many contemporary accounts are considered flawed and mistaken today.
   It seems clear that the St. John's Water Dog from Newfoundland, played
   a significant role in the general development of the retriever breeds,
   though no one is quite certain of the dogs used in developing this
   breed. Nancy Martin's recent _The Versatile Labrador Retriever_ (1994)
   contains perhaps the most comprehensive summary of the St. John's
   Water Dog's known and surmised history.
   By all accounts, the development of the modern Flat-Coated Retriever
   is credited to Mr. S. E. Shirley in the early 1870s. St. John's Water
   Dogs, water spaniels, and possibly Scotch collies were all used to
   develop the Flat-Coat. He stabilized the wavy or curly-coated
   retriever and fixed the type of the flat coated retriever. Shirley
   himself did not use Setters in his development of the Flat-Coat, but
   it is probable that the retriever mixes at that point already had
   infusions of Setter blood from earlier in the century. He is known to
   have used Labradors once they became available outside the Buccleugh
   and Malmesbury kennels.
   Mr. Shirley is well-known also for founding the Kennel Club in 1873.
   The breed's close association with this man meant that they were bred
   at the onset for both showing and hunting unlike other breeds that
   were privately bred by estates with their own grounds and
   Given the depletion of breeding stock, especially after the second
   World War, Flat-Coats and Labradors were widely interbred to broaden
   the gene pool and increase the number of dogs to a safer level. For
   example, the Labrador CH. Horton Max, a well-regarded Labrador at the
   turn of the century was actually an interbred, sired by the
   influential CH Darenth, a Flat-Coat. For some reason, while those
   breeders in Flat-Coats are aware of this mixing, many Labrador
   breeders are not.
   The next influential patron of the breed was Mr. H. Reginald Cooke,
   born in 1860 who saw some of the first dogs that Shirley established,
   their hey day during the turn of the century, their uncertain fortune
   through the World Wars and finally their decline in numbers
   afterwards. His kennel, Riverside, dominated the show scene for over
   sixty years. He also collected wins in field trials. This domination
   was both fortunate in keeping the breed on an even keel and
   unfortunate in keeping other patrons out. He was an advocate of a
   medium-sized dog as being the best for work; and was concerned about
   keeping the hunting ability alive in the show dogs. Contrary to
   popular supposition, though, Cooke purchased many dogs bred by others
   and there was no exclusive 'Riverside' strain of flat-coats.
   The Flat-Coated Retriever's decline directly coincides with the
   Labrador Retriever's almost meteoric post-war rise in popularity. The
   Labrador was considered superior to the Flat-Coat in the field trials.
   The domination of the Flat-Coats by the Riverside kennel may have also
   helped to limit the possible growth that the Flat-Coat might have
   otherwise enjoyed alongside the Labrador; it is unclear whether this
   was beneficial or detrimental to the breed in the long run. There are
   risks in being wildly popular or in being too rare.
The Flat-Coated Retriever Today

   The Flat-Coated Retriever is perhaps unique among the retriever breeds
   for being both a show dog and a working hunting retriever for the
   duration of its existence. This background in both venues has resulted
   in a breed that to this day has a strong tradition of being a
   dual-purpose dog, that is, both shown and hunted. You will find that
   most show dogs have AKC hunting test titles as well as HRC and NAHRA
   titles; far more so than in other retriever breeds except possibly for
   the Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retriever. The converse is also true:
   most of the Flat-Coats that you see in the hunting tests are also
   being shown in breed. You will not find that the breed is split
   between show lines and hunting lines as is so unfortunately true of
   many other retriever breeds. However, they are largely not present in
   competitive Field Trials, which is dominated by the field-bred
   Labrador Retriever.
   The Flat-Coated Retriever remains a modestly popular and relatively
   rare breed, which most breeders and owners prefer. The last 10 years
   registration numbers for FCRs in the AKC:

        Year            1984  1985  1986  1987 1988  1989  1990 1991 1992 1993

        Dogs Registered  301   361   360   372  338   415   442  531  491  485
        Litters           58    78    57    69   71    69    87   88   78   96

   1994 Flat-Coated Retriever New Titles
        Awards Issue        CH    OTCH  CD CDX  UD UDX   TD TDX     JH  SH  MH

        Jan 1- June 30
        **TOTALS**          76       2  46  11   4   0    8   3     19   3   1

Characteristics and Temperament

   Flat-Coats are absolutely unfailingly cheerful and often maintain a
   youthful outlook on life and a rather immature character (Paddy Petch
   called them the "Peter Pan" of dogs.)
   Most Flat-Coats feel that the primary purpose in life is to be "your
   buddy." They can become quite despondent when left alone or neglected
   for periods of time. They thrive on human companionship, and while
   they do love a good run or walk, games of fetch, etc., they are mostly
   content just to be with you. In general Flat-Coats are very happy dogs
   throughout their whole lives and only their immediate families will
   notice the gradual slowing down they do get as they age. To most
   outsiders (and Flat-Coats love EVERYONE) they are very happy, friendly
   As with most of the retriever breeds, they seem to feel that they are
   "at their best" when they have something (anything for most of them)
   in their mouth. When their mouth is full, their whole body exudes
   Many are confirmed poop eaters, although some grow out of it.
   Sometimes the activity seems seasonal or even food-related. Bitches
   seem to be worse about it, especially after having a litter.
   In general, they make good pets for houses with kids, but don't expect
   the kids not to get bruised. It will not be intentional, but they are
   big dogs.
   Flat-Coats are unabashed people dogs. They do not do well in kennel
   situations at all and they do not do well in families continually on
   the go -- unless they get to go as well! This is absolutely not a
   breed you can leave out in the backyard all the time.
   These dogs are very intelligent, and can be very creative in their
   destruction. They will do almost anything to get your attention, so
   unless they are in a situation where they are going to get a lot of
   attention, they can become chewers and diggers and they do have a lot
   of energy. They are not couch potato dogs.
   Flat-Coats are very stoic and do not show when they are in pain very
   often. They put up with a lot before they let you in on it. In this
   sense they make bad patients, as they are often up and around much too
   early for their own good after an injury.
Care and Training

   Because they have such boundless energy, obedience training is _highly_
   recommended. In particular, prospective owners new to the breed should
   take advantage of local kindergarten puppy classes as well as the
   obedience classes so that their cute pup does not become an unruly
   adolescent brat.
   They seem to take criticism (harsh voice or collar corrections) to
   heart and can get their feelings hurt easily. They often "shut down"
   when this happens and it can be very aggravating. You have to "make
   up" with the dog before they get going again sometimes. Non-coercive
   training methods work especially well with this breed.
Frequently Asked Questions

   _Are they hyper?_
     A properly bred Flat-Coat will not be hyper. However, this is an
     active retrieving breed. Their need for exercise is enormous and
     without an outlet for this need, they will become destructive and
     hard to handle. And even when properly exercised, their unflagging
     good spirits and refusal to age as they grow older mean that they
     will still be exuberant, cheerful dogs always ready to jump into
     activities with you. If you are leaning toward a sedate dog, this
     breed is probably not for you!
   _Are they good with children?_
     As with most breeds, especially with the retriever breeds, yes,
     they are good with children provided that both are supervised to
     make sure they don't accidentally injure each other. Because
     Flat-Coats are such exuberant dogs, they can easily knock children
     over without having the slightest intention of hurting them. All
     contact between children and dogs should be supervised no matter
     how good the dog (or child) is, and this is doubly true if
     accidental injury is a good possibility. You may want to wait until
     your children are a little older and not as easily frightened by a
     large, happy dog (or consider a more sedate breed).
   _Is this a black Golden? How are they different from Labs or Goldens?_
     While these breeds are fairly closely related (especially the
     Flat-Coat and the Lab), they each have distinct differences. All
     three are retrievers, people friendly and generally non-aggressive
     to either dogs or people. However, in _general_, Labs tend to be
     stubborn, Goldens tend to be soft and anxious to please, and
     Flat-Coats tend to be quirkily happy and content to be with their
     person. Labs tend to be hard workers and will have a business-like
     and independent attitude towared what they are doing. Goldens tend
     to work hard if their owner wants them to, and they can be nearly
     anxious about trying to please their owner. Flat-Coats have a
     blissfully happy, even silly, attitude about everything, though
     they can be perfectly stubborn when they choose to be.
     They are also physically distinct. The Labrador has a short coat
     and generally a stockier build than the Flat-Coat. They usually
     have a different head with a deeper stop although some poorly bred
     (at least from the conformation aspect) ones can have heads very
     nearly like the Flat-Coat. Labs can come in black, chocolate
     (liver), and yellow. The Golden Retriever has a long coat, but it
     tends to be more abundant than the Flat-Coats and may have a
     harsher texture. They always come in shades of yellow and gold,
     never black or liver. Their heads are also very different from
     Flat-Coats, being more massive, domed on top and not filled in at
     the cheeks or stop.
   _I got my dog from the shelter, but he looks just like a Flat-Coated
   Retriever! What are the chances this is true?_
     Most Labrador Retriever or Golden Retriever mixes can look like
     FCR's and they are much more common than the relatively rare FCR.
     Chances are high your dog is such a mix. If you really think your
     dog might be an FCR, then you should find a local breeder to look
     your dog over. It is certainly worth trying to ILP your dog as an
     FCR if you want to do obedience or agility work with him.
   _I understand that there can be yellow Flat-Coated Retrievers. What is
   the story with them?_
     Yellow is a disqualifying fault in the FCR. Many long-time breeders
     are extremely vehement in keeping yellow out, believing that health
     problems automatically come with the color. Reported health
     problems include skin sensitivities, and foot problems. Yellows are
     considered to have poor coats, and poor pigmentation (leathery nose
     and eye rims). Strictly speaking, it is unclear if these problems
     are inherent in the color or are simply because the little stock
     left carrying yellow is generally poor. Any reputable breeder
     offering a yellow Flat-Coat for sale should insist on a spay-neuter
     clause at the minimum if the dog is not already so altered. While
     they are rare, they are not valuable, and should not command any
     kind of a high price.
   _How does the color inheritance work?_
     Disregarding the yellow color, livers are recessive to blacks
     meaning that a liver Flat-Coat has both parents with at least one
     gene for the liver color though in appearance they may be black or
     liver. A liver only has genes for the liver color. Two livers can
     only produce livers, never blacks. If yellows are considered as
     well, it is likely that the mode of inheritance is the same as that
     of the Labrador Retriever, which is described in more detail in
     Labrador Retriever books and its FAQ.
Standards for the Flat-Coated Retriever

  AKC Standard, 1990
   The Standard is the physical "blueprint" of the breed. It describes
   the physical appearance and other desired qualities of the breed
   otherwise known as _type_. Some characteristics, such as size, coat
   quality, and movement, are based on the original (or current) function
   for the dog. Other characteristics are more cosmetic such as eye
   color; but taken together they set this breed apart from all others.
   The Standard describes an _ideal_ representive of the breed. No
   individual dog is perfect, but the Standard provides an ideal for the
   breeder to strive towards.
   Because of copyright concerns over the collection of all the Standards
   at any single site storing all the faqs, AKC Standards are not
   typically included in the Breed faqs. The reader is referred to the
   publications at the end of this document or to the National Breed Club
   for a copy of the Standard.
  British Standard, 1985
   The head should be long and nicely moulded. This moulding is
   characteristic of the breed. There is a gradual tapering form a
   moderately broad flat skull towards the muzzle, there being a notable
   absense of cheekiness. The change of level between the line of the
   skull and muzzle shoudl be slight, giving a minimal amount of drop or
   'stop'. In fact the face is fairly well filled in between the eyes
   which are set widely apart. The muzzle should be long although not
   necessarily equal to the length of skull as formerly. It should be
   strong, with the capacity of carrying a heavy hare and possess large
   open nostrils for easy scenting, and well braced lips to obviate the
   collection of feathers. The teeth should be regular and ideally show a
   complete scissor bite, the upper teeth closely overlapping the lower
   teeth, but a level bite should not be unduly penalised, as should be
   an under- or over- shot mouth.
   Should be of medium size, dark brown or hazel (defined as reddish
   brown) with a very intelligent expression. A yellow or goosberry eye
   is a decided fault as is a round or prominent one, and the eyes should
   not be obliquely placed. The lower eyelids should not be so slack as
   to favour the collection of foreign bodies in the field.
   Should be small and well set on, close to the side of the head.
   The head should be well set in the neck, and the latter should be
   reasonably long and free from throatiness, symmetrically set and
   obliquely placed in shoulders sloping well into the back to allow of
   easily seeking for the trail.
   The chest should be deep and fairly broad, with a well defined
   brisket, on which the elbows should work cleanly and evenly. The legs
   are of the greatest importance, the forelegs should be perfectly
   straight with bone of good quality carried right down to the feet and
   when the dog is in full coat the legs should be well feathered.
   The fore-ribs should be fairly flat showing a gradual spring and well
   arched in the centre of the body but rather lighter towards the
   quarters. Open couplings are to be ruthlessly condemned. The back
   should be strong and the loins short and square.
   Should be muscular. The stifle and hock should not be too straight or
   too bent and the dog must neither be cow-hocked nor move widely
   behind; in fact he must stand square and move true on legs and feet
   all round. The legs should be well feathered. He should move straight
   with drive and fluency.
   Should be round and strong with toes close and well arched, the soles
   being thick and strong.
   Short, straight and well set on, carried gaily but never much above
   the level of the back. Should be well feathered.
   Free and flowing, straight and true as seen from front and rear.
   Should be dense, of fine to medium quality and texture, flat as
   possible. Legs and tail well feathered. A good dog at maturity shows
   full furnishings to complete his elegant appearance.
   Black or liver only.
   In hard condition should be between 60 to 80 lbs for dogs and 55 to 70
   lbs for bitches.
   Dogs 23-24 inches. Bitches 22-23 inches.
   Confident and kindly. Characterised by a constantly wagging tail.
Health and Medical Problems

  Patellar Luxation
   This is a fairly serious problem, as it is genetic, but it is not
   really widespread. This is a condition in which the dog's kneecap will
   slip out of the joint and lock the leg straight. It can be surgically
   treated to keep the dog comfortable, but of course the dog should then
   be neutered. You should make sure the parents of any Flat-Coat puppy
   you consider has been cleared of Patellar Luxation by OFA.
  Elbow and Hip Dysplasia
   Flat-Coats may be prone to elbow and/or hip dysplasia, just as the
   rest of the retriever breeds generally are. In fact, according to OFA,
   the Flat-Coat is one of only four breeds in which the incidence of CHD
   is on the rise. The level has doubled from about 10 years ago and
   while is still low, the upward trend is troubling. Note that the
   overall incidence in, for example, the Golden is much higher; however,
   their rates have been decreasing in the same time period.
   To minimize the risk, all breeding stock must be x-rayed and certified
   clear of hip or elbow dysplasia by OFA (Orthopedic Foundation for
   Animals) in the US; there are equivalent programs in other countries.
   Hip dysplasia is a malformation of the ball and socket, with varying
   degrees of presentation. Symptoms can range from none to severe
   crippling. Only an xray can give you a definitive diagnosis of this
   disease. While environmental factors have been found to play a role in
   determining the degree of visible symptoms, the causes are believed to
   be genetic. For more information on this disease, please see the
   medical information FAQ or consult with your veterinarian.
   Some Flat-Coats may have low thyroid levels. Allergies, poor coat, etc
   may indicate low thyroid levels. It does not seem to be a widespread
   problem in the breed.
   Cancer is a troubling and complex presence in this breed. The age of
   onset seems to be about four years and different areas may be
   affected. Inquire about the general longevity in the lines of the
   puppy or dog you may be considering.
   Research into this problem is ongoing. Send tissue samples from
   affected FCR's for analysis and research to: Drs. Couto, Hammer and
   Veterinary Teaching Hospital
   The Ohio State University
   601 Vernon L. Tharp Street
   Columbus, OH 43210
   Phone: 614-292-3551
   Fax: 614-292-0895
     Send samples in a well-sealed and labeled container in 10%
     formalin. Put in a ziplock bag for extra protection: Be sure to
     include infomration such as: sex, age, where tumor came from, how
     long it had been present, whether it had been rapidly growing, etc
     (brief history). Include also your name, address, and phone/fax as
     well as your veterinarian's name, address and phone/fax. Include
     also a copy of the pedigree, if it is available. If you have older
     copies of biopsy reports, they can be sent in place of a formalin
     sample. The same information must accompany biopsy reports.

  Breed Books
   Laughton, Nancy. _A Review of the Flat-Coated Retriever_. Second
   Edition, 1980. Pelham Books Ltd, 44 Bedford Square, London WC1B 3DU,
   United Kingdom. ISBN 0 7207 1228 9.
     While dated, this is generally the best regarded book on
     Flat-Coated Retrievers. It is hard to find, especially outside the
     UK, but some are available. The author is a long time breeder in
     FCR's and has a good deal of history and old pedigrees in the book.
     Many lovely old photographs as well. Out of print, copies may be
     ordered from Mrs. S.M. Johnson, Shardelows Farm, Cowlinge,
     Newmarket, Suffolk CB8 9HP for a 10 pounds Sterling cheque made out
     to the Flat-Coated Retriever Society. Copies also available from
     the FCRSA for $27.50, checks payable to FCRSA, Inc and mail to
     FCRSA Ways and Means (see address below; call to check
   Petch, Paddy. _The Complete Flat-Coated Retriever_. Boydell Press, PO
   Box 9, Woodbridge, Suffolk IP12 3DF and 27 South Main St., Wolfeboro
   NH 03894-2069. ISBN 0 85115 463 8. 1988.
     This is a very nice book though somewhat outdated as well. It does
     not contain the same wealth of information as the Laughton book,
     but may be more accessible to the lay person. It is now out of
     print, and it is not clear if her book will be updated or not. The
     current rumor is that Joan Mason in England is working on a new
     book about the FCR.
   _1994 Flat-Coated Retriever Directory of North American Dogs_.
     Fourth edition. Includes Breed Standard, sixteen years of specialty
     winners, guide to bench, field trial and obedience awards and
     indices to owners, breeders and dogs. Photographs, pedigrees on 437
     North American Flat-coats. $38 plus S&H (US book rate: $3, first
     class: $5; CAN book rate: $410, first class $6.18; EUR sea: $4, air
     $18) per book. Checks payable to Mark Cavallo, 7230 Peachtree
     Dunwoody Road, Atlanta, GA 30328.
  Retriever Training Books
   Bailey, Joan. _How to Help Gun Dogs Train Themselves_. Swan Valley
   Press 2401 NE Cornell Rd., # 140 Hillsboro, OR 97124 (1-800-356-9315).
     Good coverage of the first year in the life of versatile and
     pointing dogs.
   Free, James Lamb. _Training Retrievers_.
     A classic. It outlines the long-standing training methods for field
     dogs. A good book even if some of it is outdated. An excellent
     description of training a dog to handle.
   Mueller, Larry. _Speed Train your Gun Dog_.
   Rutherford,, Clarice and Cherylon Loveland. _Retriever Puppy Training:
   The Right Start for Hunting_, Alpine Publications, 1992?.
     Good step-by-step training methods, explained and illustrated
   Rutherford, Clarice, Barbara Brandstad, and Sandra Whicker. _Retriever
   Working Certificate Training_. Alpine Publications, 1994?.
     An excellently written book on how to get your dog ready for the WC
     test. While they have written it for the one put on by the Golden
     Retriever Club, it is equally applicable for the LRC one.
     Informative and illustrated with b/w photos.
   Spencer, James B. _Training Retrievers for the Marshes and Meadows_.
   Denlinger Publications in Fairfax, VA.
     It starts with puppy selection and goes on up to advanced marks and
     blinds. It is oriented toward the amateur gundog trainer and is
     well written and comprehensive.
   Spencer, James B. _Retriever Training Tests_. Prentice Hall Press.
     Helps you to set up training situations and teaches you how the dog
     should react to things like hills, cover, land-water-land
     retrieves, how the wind affects them, etc. Lots of good problem
     solving material.
  Periodicals, Pamphlets
   _FCRSA Newsletter_
   Mary Beth Bissig
   128 GLendale Drive
   Burlington, IA 52601-1502
     This is a quarterly publication averaging about 100 pages per
     issue. It includes Society business, advertising, information
     articles and breed statistics, including upcoming litters.
     Subscriptions are available for the newsletter for $30 annually
     (FCRSA members get a copy as a benefit of membership).
   _"The Flat-Coated Retriever"_
   Brochure available from FCRSA's Ways and Means (see below).
   _Information Booklet_ by the Flat-Coated Retriever Society (see
   address below).
   Flat-Coated Retriever Society Newsletter
   Annual. Sent to all members.
   _Gun Dog_, P. O. Box 343 Mt. Morris, IL 61054-0343. 1-800-800-7724
   (phone number also for _Wing & Shot_ and _Wildfowl_). Articles on all
   types of bird dogs and gun dogs.
   _The Shooting Sportsman_, Circulation Department P. O. Box 5024
   Brentwood, TN 37204. 1-800-331-8947
  Breed Clubs in the US
   _Flat-Coated Retriever Society of America, Inc._
     _Membership Secretary,_ Miriam Krum
     16705 W. 32th Street
     Paola, KS 66071
     _Ways and Means_ Ann Yuhasz
     5601 Liberty Road
     Chagrin Falls, OH 44022
   Affiliated breed clubs include:
     * _Northeast Flat-Coated Retriever Club (Mainly New England)_
     * _Mid Atlantic Flat-Coated Retriever Club (New Jersey, PA)_
     * _Capital Region Flat-Coated Retriever Club (Maryland, Virginia,
       District of Columbia)_
     * _Midwest Waterways Flat-Coated Retriever Club (Great Lakes Region)_
     * _Upper Midwest Flat-Coated Retriever Club (Minnesota)_
     * _Great Western Flat-Coated Retriever Club (Mainly Southern
     * _Northwest Flat-Coated Retriever Club (Oregon/Washington area)_
   For an extensive list of online contacts for most regions, see the
   Contacts Online section below.
  Breed Clubs in Canada
   _Flat-Coated Retriever Society of Canada_
     Wendy MacDonald
     3985 Rock City Road
     Nanaimo, British Columbia
     V9T 4L6
  Breed Clubs in the UK
   _Flat-Coated Retriever Club of Scotland_
     Hon Secretary: Mrs. Margaret Scougal
     Tel: 0968 73808
   _Flat-Coated Retriever Society_
     _Hon Secretary:_ (information) Mrs. Joan Muade
     The old Vicarage, Blackford, Wedmore, Somerset BS28 4NN Tel: 0934
     _Membership Secretary:_ Mrs. Sally McComb
     Pennywise, Hyndford Bridge, Lanarkshire, Scotland ML11 8SQ
     Tel: 0555 662526
  Field and Hunting Clubs
   _Hunting Retriever Club_ (HRC)
   United Kennel Club, Inc.
   100 E. Kilgore Road
   Kalamazoo, MI 49001-5592
   This organization also puts out a magazine.
   _National Shoot To Retrieve Association_ (NSTRA-GD)
   226 North Mill Street #2
   Plainfield, IN 46168
   _North American Hunting Retriever Association_ (NAHRA)
   P.O. Box 1590
   Stafford, VA 22555
   Tel: 800-421-4026
   (they can direct you to clubs in your area)
   _North American Versatile Hunting Dog Association_ (NAVHDA)
   Box 520
   Arlington Heights, IL 60006
   _Quail Unlimited National Headquarters_
   P. O. Box 610
   Edgefield, SC 29824-0610
   For information about starting your own local chapter, if one does not
   already exist in your locale, direct your query to Winona Overholt,
   Assistant Director of Chapter Development at the same address or phone
  Breed Rescue
   Joyce Rein
   13588 104th Avenue
   Grand Haven, MI 49417
   To find a good breeder near you, contact your local breed club to see
   if they keep a list of affiliated breeders. Some clubs have a code of
   ethics for member breeders; others do not. Membership or presence on a
   club list of breeders does not automatically confer reputability. You
   must check with each breeder individually and see if they meet your
   Even if the local breed club does not keep a list of breeders, you
   will still be able to come into contact with local breeders and you
   should get to know them if you are serious about getting a Flat-Coat.
   Taking the time now in this respect will stand you in good stead when
   you actually get the puppy -- you will know who is having a litter,
   you will know what you are looking for, and the breeders will know you
   as someone sincerely interested in a puppy and a good prospective
   owner to boot.
   A breeder's list is available from the FCRSA, but as with any such
   list, it is up to you to determine if a breeder is the one for you.
  Email List and Web Sites
   Mike Richman ( maintains a mailing list for
   those interested in the FCR. To join, send email to with no subject line and the single line
     SUBSCRIBE FCR-L Firstname Lastname
   in the body of the message.
   Other mailing lists include:
     * The Hunting Retriever mailing list. Send email to, with subscribe HUNTING-RETRIEVER in the
       body of the mail message to join.
     * The Gundog-L mailing list (gatewayed to rec.hunting.dogs). Send
       email to with subscribe GUNDOG-L yourfirstname
       yourlastname in the body of the mail message to join.
   Web sites of interest include:
     * The Flat Coated Retreiver Homepage, at
     * Working Retriever Central, at
     * North American Hunting Retriever Association, at
  Contacts Online
   The people listed below are willing to answer your e-mail and provide
   information about the nearest Flat-Coat club in your area, if one
   exists. They may also have information about upcoming Field events,
   Supported Shows, club meetings and Flat-Coat fun days where you could
   meet Flat-Coats and Flat-Coat owners and find out more. Contacts are
   organized by country: USA, Canada, Great Britain, and Finland.
   _Regional Contacts for the USA_
   Listed geographically, from "left to right" or west to east:
   Northwestern US
          + Alaska
               o Mark and Jo-Anne Prins,
          + Pacific Northwest (Oregon, Washington)
               o Northwest Flat-Coated Retriever Club (aff.)
                 No online contact currently available
               o June Fuget,
               o Alice Ellis,
               o Jennifer Stanley, 75211.2722@CompuServe.COM
          + Northern California
               o Northern California Flat-Coated Retriever Club (unaff.)
                 Chris Butler,
               o Kyla Carlson,
                 Kathy Blanchard,
   Southwestern US
          + Southern California, Arizona, Nevada
               o Great Western Flat-Coated Retriever Club (aff.)
                 Alison Taub (Secretary),
                 Cynthia Trotter,
          + New Mexico
               o Janice Anthes,
   Northern (Central) US
          + Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin, Iowa
               o Midwest Waterways Flat-Coated Retriever Club (aff.)
                 Kathy Barton (Secretary)
                 Kathee Beebe (Treasurer),
                 Karen Bloom (member),
                 Marybeth Bissig (member),
          + Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, North and South Dakota
               o Upper Midwest Flat-Coated Retriever Club (aff.)
                 Ernie Rudolph,
                 Phyllis Barks,
   Western (Central) US
          + Colorado/Rockies, Utah, Wyoming
               o Don Freeman,
   Southern (Central) US
          + Texas, Louisiana, Oklahoma
               o David and Lamora Cole or
   Northeastern US
          + Maryland, Virginia, District of Columbia
               o Capital Region Flat-Coated Retriever Club (aff.)
                 Dawn M. Buttion, (President)
                 Judy Delventhal, (VP) Marke Reynolds
                 (club member)
          + Pennsylvania, New Jersey
               o Mid-Atlantic Flat-Coated Retriever Club (aff.)
                 Diane Husic,
          + New England, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Vermont, New
               o Northeast Flat-Coated Retriever Club (aff.)
                 Kurt Anderson (President), 73210,
                 Jennifer Andrews,
          + New York State
               o Diane Cornell,
   Southeastern US
          + Joyce Leonard,
   _Regional Contacts for Canada - Not Compiled Yet._
   _Regional Contacts for Great Britain - Not Compiled Yet._
   _Regional Contacts for Finland - Not Compiled Yet_
    Flat-Coated Retriever FAQ
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Mr. Bear- our flat coat retriever appears to be licking his paws and his eyes which I think has to do with allergies. What can I do to relive and even prevent this condition going forward & ear infections? Appreciate any help and advise-


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