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comp.databases.progress -- Answers to Frequently Asked Questions - Version 1.10

Last updated: July 19, 1995

Copyright (C) 1995 by Richard S. Smith.  This file may be freely copied and
redistributed.  All I ask is that it remains whole and intact and that this
notice is not altered.

Maintainer: Richard S. Smith (rsmith@netcom.com)

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This file (progress-faq) is intended to provide answers to certain
questions that come up regularly on the comp.databases.progress newsgroup.
People who are new to the newsgroup are encouraged to read this document
before posting questions to the newsgroup.

This FAQ has been created by me (Richard Smith) in accordance with the
prevailing traditions and customs of the Internet, which place high value
on the free dissemination and exchange of information.  It was not created
by Progress Software Corporation and PSC does not sponsor or support it in
any way, although individual employees of PSC do support my efforts (as
individuals) and contribute information.

This is a living document.  It exists because of the contributions of many
people in the Progress user community and the Internet at large.  If you
have a question that you think should be here, please let me know.  It's
nice if you can provide the answer as well, but that is not a requirement.
I will do my best to update this FAQ regularly, but in all honesty I am
more strongly motivated to do so when I receive support and encouragement
from others in the Progress user community.

Please note that the information presented here is not guaranteed to be
free from errors.  If you find any, please let me know and I will fix them.
Also please note that email addresses and URL's are not guaranteed to work
forever and may not be accessible from your particular site.  For the sake
of consistency all addresses are given in URL format.

PROGRESS is a Registered Trademark of Progress Software Corporation,
Bedford, Massachusetts.

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Notes on Version 1.10

Version 1.10 is the first "approved" release of the FAQ.  It also corrects
some errors and typos from earlier versions.

This version contains general information about comp.databases.progress and
Progress itself.  Section 4, which contains answers to "technical"
questions about Progress V6 and V7, is still under development.  Please
contact me via email with any questions (and answers) you think should be
here.

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This FAQ is currently available at the following FTP sites:

My site - always guaranteed to have the latest version:

  ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/rs/rsmith/progress-faq

Other sites are welcome to mirror this FAQ.  All I ask is that you let me
know who you are so that I can keep you informed of any updates.

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TABLE OF CONTENTS

Part 1 - Introduction

1.1) What is the charter of comp.databases.progress?
1.2) Is it OK to post "advertising" on comp.databases.progress?
1.3) What are the guidelines for posting job openings?
1.4) What are the guidelines for posting resumes?
1.5) How can I get comp.databases.progress if my site doesn't have a
     Usenet News feed?
1.6) Are archives of comp.databases.progress available?
1.7) How long has comp.databases.progress been on Usenet?
1.8) What do all the abbreviations and jargon that I see here mean?

Part 2 - General Information

2.1) What is Progress?
2.2) How do I contact PSC?
2.3) How do I contact PSC via Email?
2.4) Does PSC have a Web page?
2.5) What is the Crescent Software Division?
2.6) Is it "Progress" or "PROGRESS"?
2.7) How long has Progress been around?
2.8) Is PSC a publicly traded company?
2.9) What platforms does Progress run on?
2.10) What is the current version of Progress?
2.11) How does Progress version numbering work?
2.12) What's the difference between V6 and V7?
2.13) Is V7's GUI mode under Windows compatible with V7 GUI under Motif?
2.14) What is the next version of Progress going to be like?
2.15) Is Progress an SQL-based language?
2.16) Does Progress support Linux?

Part 3 - Progress Information and Resources

3.1) Is there a mailing list for Progress?
3.2) What WWW resources are available?
3.3) What FTP resources are available?
3.4) Is there a Progress area on Compuserve?
3.5) Is there a GNU Emacs mode for Progress?
3.6) What books are available for Progress?
3.7) What periodicals are available for Progress?
3.8) Are there Progress User Groups?  How do I find one in my area?
3.9) How do I get training on Progress?
3.10) How can I advertise to the Progress community?

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Part 1 - Introduction
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1.1) What is the charter of comp.databases.progress?

The comp.databases.progress newsgroup is open to discussion on all aspects
of the PROGRESS 4GL and Relational Database Management System.  This
includes discussion of technical issues as they pertain to the design,
implementation, and programming of Progress databases, as well as business
issues pertaining to the ongoing activities of Progress Software
Corporation.

It is also hoped that comp.databases.progress will be used to encourage the
growth and interaction of the Progress user community.  To that end, the
various regional Progress User Groups are welcome and encouraged to use
comp.databases.progress to announce their activities and generally
"network" with each other.

Although employees of Progress Software Corporation are welcome and
encouraged to use this newsgroup to disseminate technical information and
communicate with users, it is important to note that there is no official
endorsement or support of this newsgroup by Progress Software Corporation.

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1.2) Is it OK to post "advertising" on comp.databases.progress?

Basically the answer is "No", but it really depends upon what your
definition of "advertising" is.

Historically it has been considered poor taste to post advertising (broadly
defined as any communication of a commercial nature) on the Internet.
Recent developments (mainly the privatization of the NSF backbone) have
made this much less of an issue.  Furthermore, since Progress is a
commercial product it would be rather silly to attempt to forbid commercial
speech pertaining to it.

So, commercial speech is OK as long as it is not an "inducement" to
purchase a specific product or service.  Product announcements are OK, both
from PSC and from anyone else who develops products of interest to the
Progress community.  The important thing is that they truly are
"announcements" and nothing more.  Tone is very important.  Try to use a
format consistent with a press release, and avoid the style and conventions
commonly associated with advertising.

If someone posts a question and your company offers a product or service
that addresses that person's problem, feel free to post a follow-up, which
will probably include the line "Please email me if you'd like more info."

Job postings and resume postings are also OK.  See the next two questions.

Uninvited solicitation that is deliberately designed to grab attention or
take up significant amounts of net bandwidth is considered rude and is
strongly discouraged.  The proper procedure for dealing with such postings
is to completely ignore them.

Basically, commercial speech that is presented in a spirit of good taste
and respect (and with a certain degree of restraint) is both permitted and
welcome.

See question 3.10 if you need a forum for "real" advertising.

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1.3) What are the guidelines for posting job openings?

Job postings are also OK.  Both recruiting/headhunting firms and private
employers are welcome to post job openings.  Please be aware that most news
servers hold articles for at least four weeks, so please don't post the
same listing more often than that.

If you haven't done so already, I encourage you to read the FAQ file for
the newsgroup misc.jobs.misc and follow the same guidelines here that you
would if you were posting there.  If you want to post both on
misc.jobs.offered and comp.databases.progress, that's OK, but please do not
cross-post between these two groups.  If you are not familiar with the use
of the "Followup-To:" header, I encourage you to learn more about that as
well.

(Actually, the "proper" thing to do in this case is post your opening on
misc.jobs.offered and then post a brief "pointer" message on
comp.databases.progress.  However, the traffic on misc.jobs.offered has
gotten so heavy that it has become unworkable to make this a requirement.)

One thing that is definitely *not* welcome is cross-posting to all the
comp.databases newsgroups of job openings that are not specific to any
single database platform (e.g., you're looking for a "generic" SQL expert).
If you have an opening like this, all I ask is that you take a minute to
think about how it relates to the Progress user community, and customize it
accordingly.  If you are unwilling or unable to do this, then please don't
bother to post it on comp.databases.progress.

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1.4) What are the guidelines for posting resumes?

Posting of resumes by individuals is OK, but you are strongly encouraged to
edit your resume down to a simple description of what kind of work you're
looking for and what qualifications you have.

Posting of resumes by headhunting firms is discouraged.  As with job
postings, indiscriminate cross-posting of resumes to all the comp.databases
newsgroups is strongly discouraged.

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1.5) How can I get comp.databases.progress if my site doesn't have a Usenet
     News feed?

You can't.  At one time the Progress Email Group (see question 3.1) ran a
bi-directional gateway with comp.databases.progress.  A "bi-directional
gateway" is basically an email address that takes whatever you send it and
posts it to the newsgroup, and also takes postings on the newsgroup and
emails them to you.  This link is currently not operating.  This situation
is expected to change but please don't bug me about it.  And don't bug Greg
either.  ;-)

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1.6) Are archives of comp.databases.progress available?

Not at present.

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1.7) How long has comp.databases.progress been on Usenet?

The vote passed on January 5th, 1995 and the "newgroup" message was sent
out a week or so after that.

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1.8) What does all the jargon and abbreviations that I see here mean?

If you have found this FAQ and are reading it, I assume you already know
something about computers, the Internet, databases in general, and
hopefully a little bit about Progress.  Therefore it would be silly to
explain every word I use as if this weren't the case.

It should go without saying that this FAQ is not meant to be a substitute
for the tutorials, reference manuals, and other materials that are
published by Progress Software Corporation.  Also, there are many, many
books available that explain computers, databases, and the Internet at a
level that beginning users should be able to handle.  This FAQ is not meant
to replace those materials either.

However, sometimes even experienced computer people aren't up on the latest
jargon.  This is especially true with Progress since it runs on more than
one platform.  For example, there are lots of long-time Progress users on
Unix systems who aren't up on all the new Windows stuff in Version 7.  And
many people with moderate amounts of computer experience are coming to
Progress (and the Internet) for the first time.

With that in mind, here's a Glossary of abbreviations found in this FAQ:

4GL - Fourth Generation Language - A computer programming language that
manipulates and extracts data from a database.  4GL's are normally "tied"
to a specific database package and have commands to perform specific kinds
of data manipulation that reflect the capabilities of the underlying RDBMS.

CRC - Cyclical Redundancy Check - A feature in Progress V6 and V7 that
keeps compiled code (r-code) in sync with the database schema under which
it was compiled.

FAQ - Frequently Asked Question - It is traditional for Usenet newsgroups
to have FAQ files in order to reduce the posting of questions that come up
all the time.  "Newbies" are encouraged to read the FAQ before posting, as
this is considered good "netiquette".

FTP - File Transfer Protocol - The protocol that allows for file transfers
between Internet sites, and the program that allows users to transfer files
in this manner.

GNU - GNU's Not Unix - A project of the Free Software Foundation whose
mission is to produce a complete Unix-like operating system.

GUI - Graphical User Interface - The type of interface provided by programs
like Microsoft Windows, Apple MacOS, and Unix X11R5/Motif.  Usually
involves the use of a mouse, pull-down menus, etc.

NSF - The National Science Foundation - Historically speaking, the NSF was
the main government agency responsible for the growth of the Internet.

PEG - Progress Email Group - See question 3.1.

PSC - Progress Software Corporation.

RDBMS - Relational Database Management System - A set of software tools
which gives computer users the ability to create, build, and extract data
from a relational database.

SQL - Structured Query Language - A database language designed to allow
diverse database products to access each other's data without regard for
the underlying database, and without the need to know its native 4GL.

V6 - Progress Version 6.

V7 - Progress Version 7.

URL - Uniform Resource Locator - A standard format used when giving the
address of Internet documents.  It consists of the protocol (usually, ftp,
http, or gopher), followed by the Internet address and the document name.

WWW - World Wide Web - A relatively new way of using the Internet by means
of documents called "Web Pages" that can contain text, graphics, sound,
etc., and can be linked to other Web pages by means of "hypertext" links
which can point to Web documents at other Internet sites.

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Part 2 - General Information
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2.1) What is Progress?

From the marketing literature:

PROGRESS(c), a suite of products from Progress Software Corporation,
Bedford, Massachusetts, USA, includes an Enhanced Language and toolset
combined with an Enterprise class Database Server technology, offering the
best combination of speed, security, and cross-platform portability in the
marketplace.

From the "Test Drive" manual:

PROGRESS provides you with all the tools to build complete mission-
critical applications.  PROGRESS also gives you the ability to deploy your
applications across a wide range of platforms and configurations --
host-based and client/server environments, open and proprietary systems,
and character and graphical interfaces -- without changing the application
logic.

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2.2) How do I contact PSC?

PSC's address:

Progress Software Corporation
14 Oak Park
Bedford, MA 01730
USA

PSC's phone numbers:

USA: (800) 327-8445
     (617) 275-4500
     (617) 280-4000

Tech Support: (617) 280-4999

Bulletin Board (BBS): (617) 275-4666

Europe headquarters.......: 31 10 202 1799
Australia headquarters....: 61/3 9885 0544

If you know someone's extension, use (617) 280-xxxx where "xxxx" is the
extension.  You can also use the 800 number and then key in the extension
after you connect.

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2.3) How do I contact PSC via Email?

Financial information...........: finance-info@progress.com
Sales information...............: sales-info@progress.com
Technical support...............: support@progress.com
Crescent division help..........: crescent@progress.com
Training class information......: classes@progress.com
World Wide Web information......: webmaster@progress.com

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2.4) Does PSC have a Web page?

It just came on line last May:

  Main Progress WWW URL......: http://www.progress.com
  Crescent Division URL......: http://www.progress.com/crescent

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2.5) What is the Crescent Software Division?

On January 9, 1995 Progress Software announced the acquisition of Crescent
Software of Ridgefield, Conn.  Crescent is a major developer of VBX's
(Visual Basic Extensions).  The plan seems to be to incorporate Crescent
VBX's into the Progress product starting with the release of the Windows
version of V8 in late '95.  Crescent's Web page has more info on this:

  http://www.progress.com/crescent

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2.6) Is it "Progress" or "PROGRESS"?

Most people use "Progress".  This FAQ uses "Progress".  PSC uses "PROGRESS"
to refer to the product and "Progress" to refer to themselves as a company.
"PROGRESS" is not an abbreviation or acronym for anything.  It may have
some historical connection to ancient 4GL's like INGRES and POSTGRES but
this is only speculation.

The all-caps version is the official name of the product.  Example:

"PROGRESS is a Registered Trademark of Progress Software Corporation,
Bedford, Massachusetts."

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2.7) How long has Progress been around?

Progress began as Data Language Corporation in 1981. This is why Progress
installs into a directory called "/usr/dlc" by default, and expects the
"$DLC" environment variable to point to that directory.

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2.8) Is PSC a publicly traded company?

PSC "went public" in 1991.  Its NASDAQ designation is "PRGS".

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2.9) What platforms does Progress run on?

In broad historical terms, Progress has supported five platforms:

* Unix

* MS-DOS

* DEC VMS

* IBM AS/400

* Unisys CTOS

In the Unix world, PSC has done a very good job (in most people's opinions)
of supporting a wide variety of Unix platforms.  If you are running a
well-known flavor of Unix (e.g., AIX, SunOS, Solaris, SCO, OSF/1, etc.),
you can rest assured that Progress is available for it.  If you have one of
the more obscure flavors, you will need to check PSC's most recent
marketing literature as platforms are added and removed from the list with
each major release.

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2.10) What is the current version of Progress?

As of June 1995, the current versions of Progress are 6.3 and 7.3.  PSC is
actively supporting, enhancing, and fixing bugs on both V6 and V7.

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2.11) How does Progress version numbering work?

A Progress version number consists of four parts.  The Progress "version"
command produces output similar to this:

"The PROGRESS 4GL&RDBMS Version 6.3F01 as of Tue Nov 8 20:00:11 EST 1994"

In this case, the version number is "6.3F01".  The "6" is the major
Progress release.  The ".3" is a "feature" release, which means that some
level of functionality is present in 6.3 that wasn't there in 6.2.  The "F"
is a bug fix level, and "01" is the revision level of 6.3F specific to the
machine you are running on.

This means that releases of version 6.3F on different platforms can be
expected to have similar functionality, both in terms of feature
enhancements and bug fixes.

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2.12) What's the difference between V6 and V7?

V7 is a near-total rewrite of Progress from the ground up.  The main
difference is the support for GUI development under Windows (DOS) and Motif
(Unix).  There is also a massive unbundling of the various parts of the
Progress distribution in order to facilitate deployment in networked
Client/Server environments.

In the eyes of long-term Progress developers and users, Version 6
represents the cumulative result of the evolution of the product since its
initial inception, and V7 is best thought of as a whole new product, rather
than a new and improved version of V6.

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2.13) Is V7's GUI mode under Windows compatible with V7 GUI under Motif?

Only if you are careful to code using only a subset of the available
commands.

From the start, the focus of V7 GUI development has been on the Microsoft
Windows environment.  PSC apparently also had a strong desire to honor its
historical commitment to the Unix market, and therefore the intention was
that features developed on the DOS/Windows side would also be implemented
on the Unix/X-Windows side.

Needless to say, PSC has had a difficult time living up to this promise.
As time goes on and V7 matures as a product, the gap between the Windows
and Motif products is widening, with the Windows product maturing at a much
faster rate.

This is something of a "religious issue" that is far from being resolved.

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2.14) What is the next version of Progress going to be like?

At present PSC is working on a product code-named "Roadrunner" which will
be released as Progress Version 8 sometime in late 1995.

As one might expect, V8 appears to be a new and improved version of
Progress 7.3, with lots of enhancements and fixes designed to address the
complaints of people doing Windows/GUI development, and many performance
enhancements designed to make Progress V8 a world-class client/server tool.

At the Orlando Conference, PSC announced that support for the CTOS platform
will be dropped as of V8.  In other words, 7.3 will be the last version for
that platform.

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2.15) Is Progress an SQL-based language?

No.  Progress certainly supports SQL, but the Progress 4GL and SQL are two
different things.  Progress has the ability to use and understand SQL, but
the overwhelming majority of application development is done using the
native 4GL, which is held in high regard because it gives programmers the
power that SQL has historically lacked, and that products like Oracle's
PL/SQL and Powerbuilder's Transact/SQL attempt to provide with varying
degrees of success.

This is another one of those "religious issues" among Progress programmers,
who tend to disdain SQL and relish the freedom from SQL that Progress
provides.  The reasons for this are difficult to explain, but become quite
clear as soon as you try to design and code a complex application.

[Editor's note:  I welcome opposing viewpoints on this issue.  Please
email me some! ]

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2.16) Does Progress support Linux?

No.  However the SCO Unix version of Progress V6 should work in theory.
However, I have yet to hear from anyone who has actually done this.

The situation may improve soon, since the next version of Linux will
support SVR4 and ELF binaries.  However, it is questionable whether full
GUI V7 will ever run on Linux since the GUI support has to be targeted at a
specific X11 product.  For example, The SCO port of V7 only supports GUI
under ODT.  You can't port X and Motif yourself and expect V7 GUI to work
with it.

It is possible that future versions of V7 may work with sufficient
tinkering, although PSC obviously will not support such a configuration.

[Editor's note: If anyone ever actually does this, would you please email
me and tell me how you did it?  Thanks. ;-) ]

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Part 3 - Progress Information and Resources
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3.1) Is there a mailing list for Progress?

Yes.  The Progress Email Group (PEG) is a major source of information and
discussion on Progress-related matters.  At present, the traffic on this
list easily matches that on comp.databases.progress and probably exceeds it
by a sizeable margin.  There are several reasons for this, the main one
being the tireless efforts of Greg Higgins, who moderates the list.

The address of the list is:

  progress-list@peg.happmis.com

The address you use to subscribe is:

  progress-list-request@peg.happmis.com

To subscribe, set the subject line to:

  Subscribe <your address>

There are actually several mailing lists that as a whole make up the PEG.
If you would like more information about the PEG, check out the Website
(see the next question).

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3.2) What WWW resources are available?

As of late May 1995, Progress Software's Web Server is just going on line:

  http://www.progress.com

The PSC Website has an index of other Progress-related Web Pages:

  http://www.progress.com/Internet/internet.html

The PEG has its own Website:

  http://www.happmis.com/peg.html

In addition to the PEG homepage, there is a "World of Progress" Website at
Happ Management, the same place the Progress Email Group originates from:

  http://www.happmis.com/wprog/index.html

There is also a Website in Australia (for some reason there is a lot of
Progress activity down under):

  http://www.ozemail.com.au/~pfred/progress.html

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3.3) What FTP resources are available?

ftp.progress.com - PSC's FTP site is mainly used by PSC Tech Support to
distribute fixes and enhancements in response to support calls.

ftp.happmis.com - The PEG FTP site contains lots of stuff, including
archives of PEG activity going back several years, and an older version of
PSC's tech support knowledgebase.  There are also lots of programs and
utilities that have been contributed by PEG members over the years.

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3.4) Is there a Progress area on Compuserve?

Yes, there is a Progress Users Group on CompuServe in the General Computing
Forum (note that this is an Extended Service Forum).  CompuServe users
with ASCII interfaces can simply type GO GENCOM from the "!" prompt.
GO PROGRESS will also work.

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3.5) Is there a GNU Emacs mode for Progress?

There are two of them.  The first was written by David Eddy and is
available from the PEG FTP site:

  ftp://ftp.happmis.com/progress/util/general/progress.el

There is another one being written by myself (Richard Smith, the editor of
this FAQ).  It's not complete yet, but it's available and most of the
features work:

  ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/rs/rsmith/progress6.el

For those who don't know, GNU Emacs is an extremely powerful text editor
that is available "free" from many places on the internet.  An "Emacs mode"
is a program that customizes Emacs for the particulars of a given
programming language.  Emacs modes are written in Emacs Lisp and can be
quite elaborate.

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3.6) What books are available for Progress?

Apart from PSC itself, there are currently three companies that publish
Progress books.

3.6.1) White Star Software

White Star Software publishes five titles:

- Programmer's Progress

- Progress Performance Tuning Guide

- What Do I Do Now That I Have V7?

- High Performance Reports

- GUI Guidelines

John Campbell's "Programmer's Progress" and Dan Foreman's "Progress
Performance Tuning Guide" are both "classics" and for a very long time were
the only non-PSC reference materials available anywhere.

White Star Software
PO Box 51623
Palo Alto, CA 94303

(415) 857-0686 Voice
(415) 857-0779 Fax

Email: info@wss.com

WWW: http://www.happmis.com/wprog/wss.html

3.6.2) United Systems, Inc.

United Systems, Inc. is another source for Dan Foreman's "Progress
Performance Tuning Guide".

United Systems, Inc.
4470 Chamblee Dunwoody Rd. Ste 260
Atlanta, GA 30338

(404) 457-0340 Voice
(404) 457-0020 Fax

3.6.3) TJD Enterprises

TJD Enterprises publishes several titles, including:

- Becoming Expert in Progress Subroutines and Parameters

- Correcting a Database with Minimal Pain and Trouble

- Dictionary Triggers in Version 7

- Editing Blocks Made Easy

- How to Cope with Multifield Indexes in Progress

- How to Master Screen and Record Buffers

- Making Intelligent Choices with Choose

- Multidimensional Arrays in Progress (why there aren't any)

TJD Enterprises, Inc
Box 2246
Reston, VA 22090-0246

(703) 318-8502 Voice
(703) 318-0875 Fax

WWW: http://www.happmis.com/wprog/tjd1.html

It is also rumored that at least one major publisher (SAMS) has a Progress
book in the works.

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3.7) What periodicals are available for Progress?

PSC publishes the "Profiles" magazine, the "PROGRESS Connection" newsletter
and a few other publications in support of its marketing activities.

Apart from PSC, there is White Star Software (see the previous question),
which puts out a "Progressions" newsletter several times a year.

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3.8) Are there Progress User Groups?  How do I find one in my area?

Yes, there are Progress User Groups all over the USA and in various other
parts of the world.

The "PROGRESS Connection" (a bi-monthly newsletter put out by PSC's
Marketing Department) includes a list of user groups and a person to
contact for each group.

The PEG WWW site also has a user group listing, the URL is:

  http://www.happmis.com/wprog/pug.html

You can also post to comp.databases.progress or the PEG, asking if there is
a user group in your area (or country).

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3.9) How do I get training on Progress?

PSC provides training sessions for all levels of Progress users at its
various regional training centers and at its annual users conference.

There are also quite a few private companies that do trainings on-site,
many of them using the same trainers PSC does.  If you follow "Profiles" or
"Progressions" you will find ads for companies that provide training
services.  Another way to find companies like these is to monitor the
newsgroup, and post a request if you have a specific training need.

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3.10) How can I advertise to the Progress community?

Both PSC's "Profiles" and White Star's "Progressions" will gladly accept
your ad.  As far as on-line advertising, the PEG Website is setting up a
"Progress Marketplace" where companies can put up Web pages for a fee.
Contact WebMaster@peg.happmis.com if you are interested in this.

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