Re: Is it time to abandon Usenet for Usenet II?

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tcl-announce-request@mitchell.org
22 Oct 1997 21:21:15 -0000


>>>>> "Al" == Al Gilman <asgilman@access.digex.net> writes:
[...]
>> Someone mentioned the web as an alternative, and for reference material
>> (like FAQs), I think most of us agree it's superior to Usenet. But for
>> interactive discussions, web chat groups haven't taken hold.

Is it just me or is this problem due to the fact that the web-based chats
(that I've seen that are any good) are all on pay sites?

> Mailing lists have always seemed more serious and civil. People connect
> with them over longer time intervals, and there seems to be more of a
> sense of membership and social obligation.
[...]
> An induction/orientation telephone chat with a veteran participant would
> be an amazing tool to create a civil tone in a group with a lot of
> turnover. The key is to minimize the degree of hierarchy introduced to
> achieve this. That is why I am hot on "spreading servers" -- spreading
> the welcome-call action items like lawn seed over the large pool of
> people who, say, had posted both since some recent threshold and before
> some earlier one.

Even simpler is to have list subscription only be allowed when a proposed
new member is sponsored by one (or two or...) existing members in good
standing.

This could be done similar to the PGP web-of-trust idea of levels of
trust. I.e., for people that I know very well, I would be willing (for
some of them :-) to give them unconditional sponsorship to a list while for
people that I might only know via the 'net, I would give just a passing
acknowledgement that they aren't complete buttheads. So, a person might
need to collect a few conditional sponsorships or just one unconditional
sponsorship.

Oh well, just my ramblings.

Take care,
John