I am not DAVE@netcom.com. Till I just did a finger, I had no idea who was
(Netcom has over 25,000 users). Here is the result of my finger:
{netcom12:2} finger -m dave
Login name: dave In real life: David A. Lee
Directory: /u1/dave Shell: /bin/ksh
Last login Wed Jun 8 20:10 on ttyt1 from NETCOM-sc1.netcom,com
No unread mail
No Plan.
Looks to me like someone named David A. Lee, a far cry from my name.
Also, the user logs in from (I think) the South Carolina POP (sc1), pretty
far from Los Angeles as far as I can tell.
Could you not have done a finger search yourself to find out who sent the
message, rather than accusing me of it, with no basis as far as I can
tell? Where did you make the connection that 'DAVE@netcom.com' is
'dgardner@netcom.com'? Exactly what are you trying to do and say here?
I do not know very much about Unix and mail paths, but from what little I
do know, this might be a forged message, but it sure didn't come even
remotely from me. The path shows 'DAVE@netcom.com' as the originator,
and this is not me.
Look, I know you're upset because you've feel you've been solicited with
advertising without your permission, but this doesn't mean you should be
scattershotting accusations about me to my postmaster (and to other
systems' postmasters too) with absolutey no grounds for doing so. I
consider this pretty reckless.
I don't care about apologies. I'd just like you to justify your actions
with facts if you have them, or retract your accusations via email to my
postmaster (with a copy to me, so I can be sure that it's been done).
Do the right thing and set the record straight.
Dave Gardner
dgardner@netcom.com
author/maintainer of the Wine FAQ for Linux/*BSD (if that's important)
On Sat, 11 Jun 1994, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Date: Sat, 11 Jun 94 01:52 BST
> From: Ian Jackson <iwj10@cus.cam.ac.uk>
> To: postmaster@nis.com, postmaster@netcom.com, postmaster@delta.nis.com
> Cc: postmaster@nyx.cs.du.edu, linux-announce-request@tc.cornell.edu,
> faq-maintainers@MIT.EDU, dave@delta.nis.com
> Subject: forwarded message from DAVE@DELTA.nis.com
>
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> I recently received the attached piece of unsolicited advertising by
> electronic mail.
>
> - From the address it was sent to (ijackson@nyx.cs.du.edu) I conjecture
> that my name was gathered from the From: field of the Linux Frequently
> Asked Questions with Answers list, which is posted regularly to
> comp.os.linux.announce, comp.os.linux.help, comp.answers and
> news.answers.
>
> This message is in violation of the Acceptable Use Policies of several
> of the networks it traversed to reach me, including the NSFnet and the
> Joint Academic Network (JANET.) Note that it is advertising what it
> claims is a "free journal", ie a promotional vehicle for the company
> in question.
>
> Please immediately:
> 1. Instruct the user in question that this is not an acceptable use
> of USENET and electronic mail.
> 2. Apologise to any other recipients of similar messages.
> 3. Ensure that noone at your site or any site you supply
> connectivity to commits similar breaches in the future.
> 4. Apologise to me.
>
> I'm writing to what appear to be your service providers as well as
> yourself; please note that this kind of thing is totally unacceptable
> and will not be tolerated. I shall do everything in my power to
> prevent you from doing it again, or being able to do so.
>
> I'm also CC'ing this to the postmaster at the account where I received
> the message, the moderators of comp.os.linux.announce, and the
> faq-maintainers mailing list.
>
> Furthermore, please note that the mail system at delta.nis.com is
> misconfigured. The Message-ID of the enclosed email is invalid.
>
> Ian Jackson.
> (member of the Cambridge University Computer Laboratory Security
> Group, maintainer of the Linux FAQ, and member of the Usenet
> Volunteer Votetakers)
>
> - ------- Start of forwarded message -------
> - From nisuucp!DELTA.nis.com!DAVE@netcom.com Thu Jun 9 15:18:12 1994
> Received: by chiark (Smail3.1.28.1 #3)
> id m0qCH6j-0002dGC; Sat, 11 Jun 94 01:39 BST
> Received: from netcomsv.netcom.com (uucp5.netcom.com) by nyx.cs.du.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1)
> id AA07159; Thu, 9 Jun 94 15:18:02 MDT
> X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
> of Denver. The University has neither control over nor
> responsibility for the opinions or correct identity of users.
> Received: from nisuucp.UUCP by netcomsv.netcom.com with UUCP (8.6.4/SMI-4.1)
> id OAA21843; Thu, 9 Jun 1994 14:03:49 -0700
> Received: from DELTA by nis.com (4.1/SMI-4.1)
> id AA08463; Thu, 9 Jun 94 12:04:45 PDT
> Message-Id: <940609121505.a8@DELTA>
> Status: R
> From: DAVE@DELTA.nis.com
> To: ijackson@nyx.cs.du.edu
> Subject: FREE UNIX Newsletter -- Would you like to subscribe?
> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 12:15:05 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
> Hello!
>
> I saw your name in a USENET posting and thought that you may be
> interested in new UNIX software technologies.
>
> My company publishes UNIX-based software for project management,
> sharing X Window Applications as Groupware and OPEN LOOK to Motif
> conversion tools, etc.
>
> We sponsor a free, monthly electronic newsletter called ACCENTServer
> which features useful information of general interest to the UNIX
> community. Sometimes we mention one of our products to help justify
> the cost of publishing. Receiving it is the only cost to you.
>
> If you are interested in joining the ACCENTServer list, please
> reply with your surface mailing address and your telephone, fax,
> etc. if you wouldn't mind.
>
> For your trouble we'll e-mail you the latest copy of a list of
> internet services, a very useful document. (This document is also
> available in news.answers on USENET if you only want the list.)
>
> If you are NOT interested, you don't have to reply. I will only
> add you to the list if I hear from you -- it is NOT my intention
> to invade your privacy.
>
> Thank you for your time. Would you like to join?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Dave Wagner
> (dave@nis.com)
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> - ------- End of forwarded message -------
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