MR. NIXON'S CONVERSATION WITH DE GAULLE ON 30 JULY 1963

Created: 7/31/1963

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Central Iktellicrnce Agkncy

Office of Tut Director3

Dear Mr. Rusk:

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cove ring some se of Mr. Nixon's recent luncheon with de Gaulle in Paria.

Mr. McCone asked that thia report be brought to your

Sincerely,

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SUBJECT: Mr. Nixon's Conversation with de Gaulle on3 v

With regard to poss^ble^American^he France which could make testing unnecessary and allow France to adhere to the test ban, de Gaulle took the position:

cooperation in the nuclear field wasolitical standpoint in America and in lightlaws and necessary congressional action.

wasit late to consider offering France such

C. Even if information were provided, France would have to do its own testing (thisrin).

On the matterossible NATO stockpileortion of participants nuclear capability, de Gaulle showed very little interest. He reiterated his theme of national control of France's deterrent.

Mr. Nixon pointed out to de Gaulle that there are many influential political figures in the United States that sympathize with de Gaulle's position (he mentioned Russell, Dirksen, Goldwater) and that some sharing of nuclear information could be worked out.

It is Mr. Nixon's opinion that although de Gaullerand figure, set in his ideas and not readily influenced, his great sense of history Uadsjiim not to want to go down in the recora as an obstructionist and, in this sense, he is susceptible to public opinion.

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