From gvrdolja@nature.berkeley.edu Tue Dec 1 23:30:04 1998 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: gvrdolja@nature.berkeley.edu Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.techniques.microscopy Subject: RFD: sci.techniques.scanning-probe Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <912583179.9549@isc.org> Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Archive-Name: sci.techniques.scanning-probe Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 07:19:40 GMT Lines: 68 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:10722 news.groups:301979 sci.techniques.microscopy:7575 REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) unmoderated group sci.techniques.scanning-probe This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a world-wide unmoderated Usenet newsgroup group.name. This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details are below. Newsgroup line: sci.techniques.scanning-probe Techniques of scanning probe microscopy. RATIONALE: sci.techniques.scanning-probe The field of scanning probe microscopy is a relatively new intstrumental technique which has a commercial mailing list maintained by an instrument manufacturer . To provide discussion of techniques, applications, instruments, supplies, current research in this field in an unmoderated environment would be an ideal use of USENET for the scientific community. CHARTER: sci.techniques.scanning-probe A newsgroup dedicated for the discussion of issues of interest to those in the scientific field of scanning probe microscopy. These cover such techniques as atomic force microscopy, scanning tunneling microscopy, magnetic force microscopy, scanning near field optical microscopy. The newsgroup is unmoderated allowing anyone to post questions, comments about instruments, etc, free of censorship. There is a similar commercial newsgroup which is currently moderated by a manufacturer (with about 10 messages posted per day). There has been some questions as to the censorship of messages from other manufacturers providing information. A newsgroup through usenet would be more appropriate for this field and could be unmoderated as requested by its subscribers. END CHARTER. PROCEDURE: This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups should be raised and resolved. The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion warrants it. Please do not attempt to vote until this happens. All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups. This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal". Please refer to these documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any questions about the process. DISTRIBUTION: This RFD has been posted to the newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, sci.techniques.microscopy and the mailing list: spm@di.com Proponent: Gordon Vrdoljak From bostwick@cas.chemistry.gatech.edu Thu Jan 14 07:45:05 1999 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: David Bostwick Reply-To: bostwick@cas.chemistry.gatech.edu Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.techniques.microscopy Subject: CFV: sci.techniques.scanning-probe Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <916328411.15532@isc.org> References: <912583179.9549@isc.org> Supersedes: <912583179.9549@isc.org> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Expires: 5 Feb 1999 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: sci.techniques.scanning-probe Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:40:12 GMT Lines: 138 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:10802 news.groups:303389 sci.techniques.microscopy:7776 FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) unmoderated group sci.techniques.scanning-probe Instructions for voting are just before the ballot itself. Please read them before voting. If you have questions about the voting process, ask the votetaker. This CFV is to be distributed only by the votetaker. It is not to be posted to newsgroups, or mailed to mailing lists or individuals, except by the votetaker, and it is not to be placed on the World Wide Web. Ballots or CFVs provided by anyone except the votetaker will be invalid. Newsgroups line: sci.techniques.scanning-probe Discussion of scanning probe microscopy. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 4 Feb 1999. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Gordon Vrdoljak Votetaker: David Bostwick RATIONALE: sci.techniques.scanning-probe The newsgroup proposed should be created as it will provide an open forum for discussion of techniques and current research for scanning probe microscopy. The current private mailing list has an active membership with numerous daily postings which could easily be switched to USENET format. Furthermore, in this growing science field, it is easier to read and post messages to such a USENET group than the privately subscribed mailing list. The current mailing list is run by a leading instrument manufacturer, which opens the potential for censorship of messages going against their products. An unmoderated newsgroup would allow all instrument manufacturers and users to share information free of the possibility of censorship. CHARTER: sci.techniques.scanning-probe An open forum for discussion of techniques, theory, instrumentation, and research in the use of scanning probe microscopes. Such instruments would include, but not be limited to: atomic force microscopy, scanning tunneling microscopy, magnetic force microscopy, friction force microscopy, and scanning near-field microscopy. Inappropriate postings would be postings entirely unrelated to the above techniques. END CHARTER. DISTRIBUTION: In addition to the groups named in the Newsgroups: header, the CFV and the eventual RESULT posts will be mailed to these mailing lists: Mailing list name: spm@di.com Submission address: spm@di.com Request address (optional): spm@di.com IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: READ THIS BEFORE VOTING Only one vote is allowed per person or per account. Duplicate votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote. Addresses and votes of all voters will be listed in the final voting results post. Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker. Anonymous, forwarded, or proxy votes are not valid. Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered to be anonymous votes. The use of spam blockers or other munged addresses will prevent you from receiving an acknowledgement of your vote. If the address cannot be verified, the ballot will be disallowed. Vote counting is automated, and failure to follow these directions may mean that your vote does not get counted. If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker about the problem. It is your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly. The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup. Soliciting votes from uninterested parties defeats this purpose. Please do not distribute this CFV. Instead, direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups. Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud. When in doubt, ask the votetaker. HOW TO VOTE: Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and after the "END OF BALLOT" lines. Don't worry about the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your reply inserts. Please do not send the entire CFV back to me. Fill in the ballot as shown below. Please provide a valid name and indicate your desired vote in the appropriate locations inside the ballot. When finished, MAIL the ballot to: . Just "replying" to this message should work, but check the "To:" line. Examples of how to properly indicate your vote (do not vote here): [ YES ] example.yes.vote [ NO ] example.no.vote [ ABSTAIN ] example.abstention [ CANCEL ] example.cancellation DO NOT modify, alter or delete any information in this ballot! If you do, the voting software will probably reject your ballot. If these instructions are unclear, please ask the votetaker. ======== BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete everything before this line ======= .----------------------------------------------------------------------- | Do not edit anything in this ballot, except to add your name and vote. | | 1ST CALL FOR VOTES: sci.techniques.scanning-probe | Official Usenet Voting Ballot (Do not remove this line!) |----------------------------------------------------------------------- | Please provide a valid name, or your vote may be rejected. Place | ONLY your name (i.e., do not include your e-mail address or any other | information) after the colon on the line below. Voter name: | Insert YES, NO, ABSTAIN, or CANCEL inside the brackets for each | newsgroup listed below (do not delete the newsgroup name): Your Vote Newsgroup --------- ----------------------------------------------------------- [ ] sci.techniques.scanning-probe ======== END OF BALLOT: Delete everything after this line ============== This CFV was created with uvpq 1.0 (Aug 27 1997). PQ datestamp: 980322 -- Voting address : bostwick@cas.chemistry.gatech.edu From bostwick@cas.chemistry.gatech.edu Mon Jan 25 07:15:05 1999 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: David Bostwick Reply-To: bostwick@cas.chemistry.gatech.edu Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.techniques.microscopy Subject: 2nd CFV: sci.techniques.scanning-probe Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <917276469.5393@isc.org> References: <912583179.9549@isc.org> <916328411.15532@isc.org> Supersedes: <916328411.15532@isc.org> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Expires: 5 Feb 1999 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: sci.techniques.scanning-probe Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 15:01:09 GMT Lines: 138 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:10839 news.groups:304093 sci.techniques.microscopy:7834 LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) unmoderated group sci.techniques.scanning-probe Instructions for voting are just before the ballot itself. Please read them before voting. If you have questions about the voting process, ask the votetaker. This CFV is to be distributed only by the votetaker. It is not to be posted to newsgroups, or mailed to mailing lists or individuals, except by the votetaker, and it is not to be placed on the World Wide Web. Ballots or CFVs provided by anyone except the votetaker will be invalid. Newsgroups line: sci.techniques.scanning-probe Discussion of scanning probe microscopy. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 4 Feb 1999. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Gordon Vrdoljak Votetaker: David Bostwick RATIONALE: sci.techniques.scanning-probe The newsgroup proposed should be created as it will provide an open forum for discussion of techniques and current research for scanning probe microscopy. The current private mailing list has an active membership with numerous daily postings which could easily be switched to USENET format. Furthermore, in this growing science field, it is easier to read and post messages to such a USENET group than the privately subscribed mailing list. The current mailing list is run by a leading instrument manufacturer, which opens the potential for censorship of messages going against their products. An unmoderated newsgroup would allow all instrument manufacturers and users to share information free of the possibility of censorship. CHARTER: sci.techniques.scanning-probe An open forum for discussion of techniques, theory, instrumentation, and research in the use of scanning probe microscopes. Such instruments would include, but not be limited to: atomic force microscopy, scanning tunneling microscopy, magnetic force microscopy, friction force microscopy, and scanning near-field microscopy. Inappropriate postings would be postings entirely unrelated to the above techniques. END CHARTER. DISTRIBUTION: In addition to the groups named in the Newsgroups: header, the CFV and the eventual RESULT posts will be mailed to these mailing lists: Mailing list name: spm@di.com Submission address: spm@di.com Request address (optional): spm@di.com IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: READ THIS BEFORE VOTING Only one vote is allowed per person or per account. Duplicate votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote. Addresses and votes of all voters will be listed in the final voting results post. Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker. Anonymous, forwarded, or proxy votes are not valid. Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered to be anonymous votes. The use of spam blockers or other munged addresses will prevent you from receiving an acknowledgement of your vote. If the address cannot be verified, the ballot will be disallowed. Vote counting is automated, and failure to follow these directions may mean that your vote does not get counted. If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker about the problem. It is your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly. The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup. Soliciting votes from uninterested parties defeats this purpose. Please do not distribute this CFV. Instead, direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups. Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud. When in doubt, ask the votetaker. HOW TO VOTE: Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and after the "END OF BALLOT" lines. Don't worry about the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your reply inserts. Please do not send the entire CFV back to me. Fill in the ballot as shown below. Please provide a valid name and indicate your desired vote in the appropriate locations inside the ballot. When finished, MAIL the ballot to: . Just "replying" to this message should work, but check the "To:" line. Examples of how to properly indicate your vote (do not vote here): [ YES ] example.yes.vote [ NO ] example.no.vote [ ABSTAIN ] example.abstention [ CANCEL ] example.cancellation DO NOT modify, alter or delete any information in this ballot! If you do, the voting software will probably reject your ballot. If these instructions are unclear, please ask the votetaker. ======== BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete everything before this line ======= ..----------------------------------------------------------------------- | Do not edit anything in this ballot, except to add your name and vote. | | 2ND CALL FOR VOTES: sci.techniques.scanning-probe | Official Usenet Voting Ballot (Do not remove this line!) |----------------------------------------------------------------------- | Please provide a valid name, or your vote may be rejected. Place | ONLY your name (i.e., do not include your e-mail address or any other | information) after the colon on the line below. Voter name: | Insert YES, NO, ABSTAIN, or CANCEL inside the brackets for each | newsgroup listed below (do not delete the newsgroup name): Your Vote Newsgroup --------- ----------------------------------------------------------- [ ] sci.techniques.scanning-probe ======== END OF BALLOT: Delete everything after this line ============== This CFV was created with uvpq 1.0 (Aug 27 1997). PQ datestamp: 980322 -- Voting address : bostwick@cas.chemistry.gatech.edu From bostwick@cas.chemistry.gatech.edu Fri Feb 5 07:30:12 1999 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: David Bostwick Reply-To: bostwick@cas.chemistry.gatech.edu Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.techniques.microscopy Subject: RESULT: sci.techniques.scanning-probe fails 75:63 Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <918228583.21268@isc.org> References: <912583179.9549@isc.org> <916328411.15532@isc.org> <917276469.5393@isc.org> Supersedes: <917276469.5393@isc.org> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Archive-Name: sci.techniques.scanning-probe Date: Fri, 05 Feb 1999 15:29:44 GMT Lines: 221 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:10862 news.groups:304831 sci.techniques.microscopy:7910 RESULT unmoderated group sci.techniques.scanning-probe fails 75:63 There were 75 YES votes and 63 NO votes, for a total of 138 valid votes. There were 7 abstains and 2 invalid ballots. For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO) votes. There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted. Unless serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the group may not be voted on again for six months. Newsgroups line: sci.techniques.scanning-probe Discussion of scanning probe microscopy. The voting period ended at 23:59:59 UTC, 4 Feb 1999. This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Gordon Vrdoljak Votetaker: David Bostwick RATIONALE: sci.techniques.scanning-probe The newsgroup proposed should be created as it will provide an open forum for discussion of techniques and current research for scanning probe microscopy. The current private mailing list has an active membership with numerous daily postings which could easily be switched to USENET format. Furthermore, in this growing science field, it is easier to read and post messages to such a USENET group than the privately subscribed mailing list. The current mailing list is run by a leading instrument manufacturer, which opens the potential for censorship of messages going against their products. An unmoderated newsgroup would allow all instrument manufacturers and users to share information free of the possibility of censorship. CHARTER: sci.techniques.scanning-probe An open forum for discussion of techniques, theory, instrumentation, and research in the use of scanning probe microscopes. Such instruments would include, but not be limited to: atomic force microscopy, scanning tunneling microscopy, magnetic force microscopy, friction force microscopy, and scanning near-field microscopy. Inappropriate postings would be postings entirely unrelated to the above techniques. END CHARTER. DISTRIBUTION: The CFV for this group was mailed to the following mailing list: Mailing list name: spm@di.com Submission address: spm@di.com Request address (optional): spm@di.com sci.techniques.scanning-probe Final Vote Ack Voted Yes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ac Soft-Imaging.com Andrew Cahill alan sngrc3.demon.co.uk Alan Brain alessandro.delbianco joanneum.ac.at Alessandro Del Bianco alex.dawson uea.ac.uk Alex Dawson anne_simp yahoo.com Anne Simpson antenna btinternet.com John Garrett awang thermomicro.com Albert Wang bc buphyc.bu.edu Bernard Chasan Bob_Holthausen pall.com R. Holthausen BradB Accurel.com Brad Burrow brian.eddy boeing.com Brian Eddy celticwiccan hotmail.com Peter Byron CHARRA DRECAM.CEA.fr Fabrice CHARRA Chris.Kohler wl.com CHRIS KOHLER cialoni chupchick.weizmann.ac.il Shaul Aloni consoli sci.kun.nl Luca Consoli danker uni-muenster.de Timm Danker dany.steyaert ping.be Dany Steyaert david pottage.demon.co.uk david pottage davidsen tmr.com Bill Davidsen DMoravits swri.edu Don Moravits DNicolella swri.edu Daniel P. Nicolella dptsai phy.ccu.edu.tw Din Ping Tsai dray csd.uwm.edu Daniel Giese dvdb huckel.cm.utexas.edu David A. Vanden Bout ellis ftel.net Rick Ellis eugene.leitl lrz.uni-muenchen.de Eugene Leitl frank cmp01ww7.ww.uni-erlangen.de Gerhard Frank gvrdolja nature.Berkeley.EDU Gordon Vrdoljak gvw sfu.ca Gavin Wheeler Heinz.Sturm bam.de Heinz Sturm henryb tigerdrive.com Henry "Hank" Becker jfj imagemet.com Jan F. Jorgensen jharper tamu.edu John Harper jkramer merlin.sccs.swarthmore.edu Joshua Kramer john.walton umist.ac.uk john walton johna thermomicro.com John D. Alexander jstein tamu.edu Jeremy Steinshnider juan castelar.ml.org Juan de la Figuera kale cric.chemres.hu Erika Kalman kimdv best.com Kim DeVaughn lfei memc.com lu fei MAARTEN.CANNAERTS student.kuleuven.ac.be Maarten Cannaerts Melissa.Hines Cornell.edu Melissa A. Hines mick uni-duesseldorf.de Uwe Mick mooney jeol.com Chuck Mooney mra pobox.com Mark Atwood niehus physik.hu-berlin.de Horst Niehus nsmith micro.ti.com Neal L. Smith pan syix.com Pan persa ifm.liu.se Per Sandstrom phcmd getafix.utr.ac.za DEMANET qingling_z hotmail.com qingling zhang qsales quesant.com Thomas Pelnar r.t.simchick larc.nasa.gov Dick Simchick roses capecod.net Dolores Scaldini Klimm schaeferag access.ch Klaus A. Schaefer, Dipl.Ing.,Dipl.Chem. schaefergmbh compuserve.com Martin Schaefer Stephen.Nanchy wl.com Stephen Nanchy Stuart.Lindsay asu.edu Stuart Lindsay taf2 po.cwru.edu Todd A. Farmerie testsolutions worldnet.att.net Phil Wolf tftf tds.net Thomas L. Ferrell titanrdd hol.gr Dr Aristotelis J. Papageorgiou tmoeller NORAN.com Timo torzo padova.infm.it Giacomo Torzo trevort inorth.on.ca Trevor Tymchuk unertl maine.edu W. N. Unertl Vhaeren imec.be Vanhaeren Danielle vote kholdan.snafu.de tobias erle W.Neun online.de Wolfgang J. Neun WmHBlair verio.com William H. Blair xanthian well.com Kent Paul Dolan ymartin us.ibm.com Yves Martin zheming.wang pnl.gov Zheming Wang Voted No ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ arunan.nadarajah utoledo.edu Arunan Nadarajah asm indy.net Don Chernoff augustbh jmu.edu Brian Augustine bossmang pacbell.net Aaron Marquez cev ornl.gov Catherine E Vallet cz ipc.uni-tuebingen.de Christiane Ziegler david farrar.com David Farrar DD723708 MSXWHWTC.shell.com David Denley dilickjm home.com John Dilick dmprice globalnet.co.uk Duncan Price ebright mbcl.rutgers.edu Richard H. Ebright egadsby kcc.com Elizabeth Gadsby Ekkehard.Uthke gmx.de Ekkehard Uthke elshaw MIT.EDU Elisabeth L. Shaw ferret enteract.com Karl Meyer Francis.Gramkowski wdc.com Francis Gramkowski GMShedd aol.com Gordon Shedd gprrspw snet.net G.P. Ryan Gunnar.Pettersen matek.sintef.no Gunnar Pettersen jason gaydeceiver.com Jason Steiner jbenis+ pitt.edu jason Bemis jennifer_wall goodyear.com J.F. Wall jfc2u unix.mail.virginia.edu John Conroy John.Blendell nist.gov John Blendell jshultz comp.uark.edu John Shultz jtd wsu.edu J. Thomas Dickinson jvillar biotite.nist.gov John Villarrubia kamins hpltk.hpl.hp.com Ted Kamins kenjohnson micron.com Ken Johnson knapp ifr.mavt.ethz.ch Helmut F. Knapp lwchen cmliris.harvard.edu Liwei Chen mark.vanlandingham nist.gov Mark R. VanLandingham mcellimt uwec.edu Marcus T. McEllistrem meyer UDel.Edu Robert Keown monte di.com Monte Heaton N.D.Gray soton.ac.uk Nick Gray naddy mips.rhein-neckar.de Christian Weisgerber nanosensors compuserve.com Peter Besmens narayan rri.ernet.in VEDAGIRI LAKSHMINARAYAN olav viking.mv.com Olav Nieuwejaar PattonSL Npt.NUWC.Navy.Mil Scott Patton peter physics.mcgill.ca Peter Grutter r5555c email.sps.mot.com Alan Chapman raiteri wintermute.chemie.uni-mainz.de Roberto Raiteri RandTSkye compuserve.com Richard Skye requicha stromboli.usc.edu Ari Requicha richard.beanland gecm.com Richard Beanland +44 1327 356363 richard.larker indexator.se Richard Larker rick bcm.tmc.edu Richard Miller Robert.Stark lrz.uni-muenchen.de Robert Stark schmid iap.tuwien.ac.at Michael Schmid stainles bga.com Dwight Brown Susanne.Opalka alcoa.com Susanne Opalka takacs bnl.gov Peter Z. Takacs thomas physchem.kth.se Thomas Ederth thomas.trenkler imec.be Thomas Trenkler today di.com Todd Day ungerm its.caltech.edu Marc A. Unger Volker.Dehnke tu-clausthal.de Volker Dehnke walters rice.edu Deron Walters woolley core.fas.harvard.edu Adam Woolley yip ibme.utoronto.ca Chris Yip yuan ChE.UDel.Edu Yonghui Yuan Abstained ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ chris kzim.com Christopher Robin Zimmerman dirkb alkali.otago.ac.nz Dirk Bokern JENNS VISUS.JNJ.com John Enns jwdrelic mtu.edu Jaroslaw Drelich martijn inlv.demon.nl Martijn Dekker merlin A470.demon.co.uk Darren Wyn Rees nysten poly.ucl.ac.be NYSTEN Bernard Votes in error ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ LUCIO if.ufrgs.br ! No name given uniscan uniscan.demon.co.uk Uniscan Instruments Ltd ! Institutional vote