From dhawkins@gate.net Fri Jan 19 21:02:39 1996 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: dhawkins@gate.net (Dennis Hawkins) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.agriculture,sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: RFD: sci.agriculture.poultry moderated Followup-To: news.groups Date: 20 Jan 1996 02:02:34 -0000 Organization: . Lines: 102 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Approved: newgroups-request@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <822103352.26226@uunet.uu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: sci.agriculture.poultry Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:8148 news.groups:184181 sci.agriculture:8834 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:3619 REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) moderated group sci.agriculture.poultry Newsgroups line: sci.agriculture.poultry Raising chickens and other poultry. (Moderated) RATIONALE: sci.agriculture.poultry Chickens and other poultry are found in every country of the world. People around the world have been raising poultry for many centuries. Today, many poultry farmers, from the backyard enthusiast to the multi-million bird production facility, have become internet users seeking information regarding poultry related issues. Right now, there are many experienced individuals with a wealth of poultry knowledge that are willing to share this knowledge with other people who want it. The creation of this newsgroup will allow experienced and knowledgeable poultry people to share their wealth of knowledge. Currently there is no poultry specific newsgroup on the internet. I have located two poultry related mailing lists on the internet. These are PLTRYNWS and DOM_BIRD. They can be subscribed to by sending a subscription request to listserv@sdsuvm.sdstate.edu and listserv@plearn.edu.pl respectively. Both lists are quite busy. The PLTRYNWS list seems to specialize in scientific and medical poultry topics and the DOM_BIRD list seems to specialize in domesticated birds as pets. Exact subscriber counts were not available at the time of this writing, however, based on information posted to these mailing lists, it is estimated that the sum total number of subscribers for both lists exceeds 1,000 subscribers. This poultry newsgroup, if created, would encompass the subject matter of both mailing lists plus more. There are many poultry people out there just waiting for a newsgroup to call home. The mention of my writing this RFD has already caused a positive response from the poultry community. Currently, there other agriculture related newsgroups out there, however these do not readily support poultry discussion. While there is some chicken clucking in sci.agriculture, the volume poultry posts there combined with the volume of people already subscribed to mailing lists demonstrates a clear need for a new poultry specific newsgroup. The name chosen for this group is sci.agriculture.poultry, which is highly suggestive of its proposed content. When people search for poultry related newsgroups, they either use the keyword 'poultry' or the specific type of fowl such as 'chicken'. I was not aware of any poultry discussion in sci.agriculture until one of the 'group-mentors' mentioned it. By creating a poultry specific newsgroup, many poultry people will be able to locate it and post articles. Likewise, by creating this poultry group, you will not be destroying the sci.agriculture group. There will still be a broad range of agricultural topics that can be discussed there. This group is intended to be moderated. After having seen what happens to unmoderated newsgroups when nobody is left in charge, I feel that a moderator is necessary to keep the peace and ensure that articles make at least a good faith attempt to obey the charter rules. In a poultry discussion group, the articles should be of a tactful poultry topic. It will be the job of the moderator to see that people posting articles do not get carried away and leave the charter rules behind. CHARTER: sci.agriculture.poultry This group would encourage posting of material relating to the humane farming of chickens and other livestock fowl. All articles that are concerned with legitimate poultry farming topics will be welcome in the group. Legitimate poultry farming topics include but are not limited to genetics, nutrition, housing, breeding, egg marketing, care, and poultry medical technology. Articles that have little or no relationship to poultry or farming will be discouraged. Chain-letters, get-rich-quick schemes, mass non-poultry related advertising, "Adult" type material, and articles of especially poor taste will be purged as soon as the moderator becomes aware of them. END CHARTER. MODERATOR INFO: sci.agriculture.poultry Moderator: n4mwd@amsat.org (Dennis Hawkins) As the initial group moderator, I would give people the widest possible latitude for discussing poultry related topics. However, at the same time, I would draw the line when it comes to chain-letters, "Adult" topics, and advertising articles that have absolutely nothing to do with poultry. My email address is n4mwd@amsat.org -or- p001309b@pbfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us. END MODERATOR INFO. DISTRIBUTION: This RFD will be posted to the following newsgroups: sci.agriculture sci.agriculture.beekeeping news.groups news.announce.newsgroups From dhawkins@gate.net Sat Feb 3 22:05:08 1996 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: dhawkins@gate.net (Dennis Hawkins) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.agriculture,sci.agriculture.beekeeping,alt.agriculture.misc,alt.sustainable.agriculture,misc.rural,rec.birds,rec.pets.birds Subject: 2nd RFD: sci.agriculture.{poultry,ratites} Followup-To: news.groups Date: 4 Feb 1996 03:05:02 -0000 Organization: CyberGate, Inc. Lines: 251 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Approved: newgroups-request@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <823403099.17386@uunet.uu.net> References: <822103352.26226@uunet.uu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: sci.agriculture.poultry Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:8235 news.groups:186748 sci.agriculture:9064 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:3734 alt.agriculture.misc:6402 alt.sustainable.agriculture:10440 misc.rural:26255 rec.birds:34514 rec.pets.birds:55499 REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) unmoderated group sci.agriculture.poultry unmoderated group sci.agriculture.ratites Changes: Addition of sci.agriculture.ratites group. Newsgroup lines: sci.agriculture.poultry Chickens, ducks, geese, and other poultry. sci.agriculture.ratites Ostrich, emu, rhea, or cassowary ranching. Proponents: Michael & Susan Harmon Dennis Hawkins Kathryn A. Smith Bob Weber Steven Whatley NOTE: This is not a Call for Votes. Do not try to vote now. Follow-ups set to news.groups, please honor. See the "Procedure" section, below, for details. RATIONALE: sci.agriculture.poultry Since the beginning of recorded history, mankind has owed a debt to the chicken and other poultry. Their eggs and meat have provided food for our ancestors during times of famine. Today, they are a valuable agricultural resource and many poultry farmers around the world, from the backyard enthusiast to the multi-million bird production facility, have become Internet users seeking information regarding poultry related issues. One of the main purposes of the Internet is to get information out to people as efficiently as possible. Having a newsgroup specifically for poultry will allow experienced and knowledgeable poultry keepers to share their ideas and practices with those that are less experienced. It will also allow poultry keepers to learn about the different husbandry practices used to manage poultry throughout the world. Currently there is no poultry specific newsgroup on the Internet. We have located two poultry related mailing lists. These are PLTRYNWS and DOM_BIRD. They can be subscribed to by sending a subscription request to listserv@sdsuvm.sdstate.edu and listserv@plearn.edu.pl respectively. Both lists are quite busy. Together they generate about 15 posts per day. The PLTRYNWS list seems to specialize in scientific and medical poultry topics and the DOM_BIRD list seems to specialize in domesticated birds as pets. The mailing list owners have claimed over 600 subscribers total. This poultry newsgroup, if created, would encompass the subject matter of both mailing lists plus more. There are many people interested in poultry just waiting for a newsgroup to call home. The mention of our proposing this RFD has already caused a positive response in the form of supportive email. Currently, there are other agriculture related newsgroups on the Internet, however poultry is only a small percentage of the many topics discussed in them. While there is some discussion of chickens in sci.agriculture, the volume of poultry posts there combined with the volume of posts to the mailing lists demonstrates a clear need for a new poultry specific newsgroup. There are currently many active web pages (WWW) on the net. The number of web pages devoted to poultry indicates world wide interest in poultry topics. A small sampling of these are listed here: "The Chicken Coop" (http://www.transport.com/~lhadley/index.html) "The Chicken Page" (http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~ifza664/index.html) "The FeatherSite" (http://www.cyborganic.com/People/stefan/brkpage/ FeatherSite.html) "Poultry Fancy Page" (http://www.sjc.ox.ac.uk/users/martin/andy/pfanc1.html) "Chickens On The Electronic Highway" (http://www.well.com/user/themook/) "Chick Map" (http://www.ri.bbsrc.ac.uk/chickmap/ChickMapHomePage.html) The owner of the "Chicken Coop" is lhadley@transport.com. He has reported 990 hits in December 1995 and 1450 hits in January 1996. He gets an average of 5 poultry web page related email responses per day. If you multiply this times the number of other poultry web pages, you can see that there is a lot of interest in poultry in general. The name chosen for this group is sci.agriculture.poultry, which is highly suggestive of its proposed content. When people search for poultry related newsgroups, it will be easy for them to find this newsgroup. We were not aware of any poultry discussion in sci.agriculture until one of the 'group-mentors' mentioned it. Likewise, we feel that many other people are also unaware of poultry discussion there. By creating a poultry specific newsgroup, many poultry people will be able to locate it and share information and ideas. By creating this newsgroup, we will not be competing with the existing sci.agriculture group, but rather permitting people interested in both general agriculture and poultry to have their own forum. There will still be a broad range of agricultural topics that can be discussed in sci.agriculture. BACKGROUND STATISTICS FOR POULTRY DISCUSSION: Mailing Lists DOM_BIRD 200 subscribers / 10 posts daily (average) PLTRYNWS 400 subscribers / 5 posts daily (average) Obviously, if more people knew about these mailing lists, there would be much more activity and subscribers. Even still, people are UnSubscribing and leaving word that the reason was due to too many posts filling up their mailboxes. Existing Newsgroups sci.agriculture Seen up to 5 daily posts about poultry. Clearly, there would be many more posts in sci.agriculture if more people were aware of poultry discussion going on in that group. CHARTER: sci.agriculture.poultry The proposed unmoderated newsgroup will be open to discussion of material relating to the humane farming of chickens and other livestock fowl. All articles that are concerned with poultry farming topics will be welcome in the group. Examples of domesticated birds (not limited to these) Chickens - home flock, commercial and fancy breeds Ducks Doves - homing and fancy breeds Geese Jungle Fowl Peafowl Pheasants Turkeys Allowed Topics (not limited to these) Breeding/Breeders Clubs/Organizations Equipment Used Exhibit/Show Announcements Genetics Health/Veterinary Care & Management Housing Legislation/Regulations concerning domesticated animals Marketing Nutrition & Nutritional Research Places to Purchase/Sell Inappropriate Topics Animals rights (see talk.animal.rights) Exotic, caged birds (see rec.pets.birds) Hunting (see rec.hunting.*) Non-poultry related advertising (spamming) Vegetarianism Wild birds (see rec.birds) END CHARTER. RATIONALE: sci.agriculture.ratites The Ratite Industry has grown tremendously over the past couple of years. Ray Block , producer of the CALEA News Update magazine for the California Emu Association, reports that the Jan/Feb 1996 issue of CALEA News was mailed out to over 1000 ratite ranchers. Distribution of the magazine includes issues being sent out to Canada, Japan, Spain and Australia. Recently, the ratite industry has received USDA Meat Inspection approval. This means that ratite meat can now be served in US restaurants and grocery stores. Krogers in Texas and HEB in California are already selling the ratite meat. Contact has also been established so that US ranchers can ship products into other countries, up to and including China. Further endeavors include shipping 1 Gallon Size containers of Emu Oil to the largest burn centers in 50 countries for research. A currently active ratite web site, located at http://www.axs.net/~ektor/ratite.html, has been accessed approximately 9000 times since its creation. The most active section of the web page has been the listing of ratite farmers on the internet. Currently, this page lists around 60 farmers with email addresses. Ray Williams, the pagemaster, reports that he personally receives around 40 to 50 messages a day that deal with the ratite industry. Ray is also working on opening up a commercial web site for the distribution of ratite information. This web site will be located at www.ratite.net Finally, there are currently two email mailing lists that deal with ratite ranching. The American list, called Ratite (owned by Ray Williams ), currently has around 180 subscribers and averages about 7-10 messages per day. The Canadian list, called Ratite-News (owned by Barry Judson ), has about 50 subscribers. The mail traffic on the Canadian list is slightly less (due to less chit-chat), but the information exchanged is very up-to-date and informative. These numbers, combined with the occassional ratite post on the mailing lists DOM_BIRD and PLTRYNWS and the newsgroups rec.birds and rec.pets.birds, are enough to show that there is a definite interest on the internet for a ratite newsgroup. CHARTER: sci.agriculture.ratites The proposed unmoderated newsgroup will be open to discussion of all topics related to the ownership, breeding, exhibiting, and farming of birds considered to be ratites. Examples of ratites (not limited to these) Cassowary Emu Ostrich Rhea Allowed Topics (not limited to these) Breeding/Breeders Clubs/Organizations Equipment Used Exhibit/Show Announcements Genetics Health/Veterinary Care & Management Housing Legislation/Regulations concerning domesticated animals Marketing Nutrition & Nutritional Research Places to Purchase/Sell Inappropriate Topics Animals rights (see talk.animal.rights) Birds that are not considered ratites Hunting (see rec.hunting.*) Vegetarianism END CHARTER. PROCEDURE: Interested parties are encouraged to comment on this proposal in news.groups. Please post your comments *only* in news.groups. After 21 days, if there appears to be a strong consensus in favor of this proposal as it is written here, a CFV (Call For Votes) will be posted, which will initiate the voting process; otherwise, discussion will continue until a more refined proposal can be prepared. Again, please do *not* vote now. The voting process has not begun, and your votes will be DISCARDED if you attempt to do so. For more information on the newsgroup creation process, see the documents entitled "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "Usenet Newsgroup Creation Companion" by David Lawrence , posted regularly to news.groups, news.announce.newgroups, and news.answers, and available for ftp at rtfm.mit.edu in /pub/usenet/news.groups. From votetaker@netagw.com Thu Feb 29 20:41:08 1996 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: votetaker@netagw.com (Bill Aten) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.agriculture.misc,alt.sustainable.agriculture,misc.rural,rec.birds,rec.pets.birds,sci.agriculture,sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: CFV: sci.agriculture.{poultry,ratites} Followup-To: poster Date: 1 Mar 1996 01:41:17 -0000 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 326 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Approved: newgroups-request@uunet.uu.net Expires: 23 Mar 1996 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <12598.16199.261277@uunet.uu.net> References: <823403099.17386@uunet.uu.net> Reply-To: poultry-vote@netagw.com NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: sci.agriculture.poultry Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:8331 news.groups:191977 alt.agriculture.misc:6783 alt.sustainable.agriculture:10965 misc.rural:27200 rec.birds:36058 rec.pets.birds:57474 sci.agriculture:9498 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:3909 FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) unmoderated group sci.agriculture.poultry unmoderated group sci.agriculture.ratites Newsgroups lines: sci.agriculture.poultry Chickens, ducks, geese, and other poultry. sci.agriculture.ratites Ostrich, emu, rhea, or cassowary ranching. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 22 Mar 1996. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Dennis Hawkins Proponent: Michael & Susan Harmon Proponent: Kathryn A. Smith Proponent: Bob Weber Proponent: Steven Whatley Votetaker: Bill Aten RATIONALE: sci.agriculture.poultry Since the beginning of recorded history, mankind has owed a debt to the chicken and other poultry. Their eggs and meat have provided food for our ancestors during times of famine. Today, they are a valuable agricultural resource and many poultry farmers around the world, from the backyard enthusiast to the multi-million bird production facility, have become Internet users seeking information regarding poultry related issues. One of the main purposes of the Internet is to get information out to people as efficiently as possible. Having a newsgroup specifically for poultry will allow experienced and knowledgeable poultry keepers to share their ideas and practices with those that are less experienced. It will also allow poultry keepers to learn about the different husbandry practices used to manage poultry throughout the world. Currently there is no poultry specific newsgroup on the Internet. We have located two poultry related mailing lists. These are PLTRYNWS and DOM_BIRD. They can be subscribed to by sending a subscription request to and respectively. Both lists are quite busy. Together they generate about 15 posts per day. The PLTRYNWS list seems to specialize in scientific and medical poultry topics and the DOM_BIRD list seems to specialize in domesticated birds as pets. The mailing list owners have claimed over 600 subscribers total. This poultry newsgroup, if created, would encompass the subject matter of both mailing lists plus more. There are many people interested in poultry just waiting for a newsgroup to call home. The mention of our proposing this RFD has already caused a positive response in the form of supportive email. Currently, there are other agriculture related newsgroups on the Internet, however poultry is only a small percentage of the many topics discussed in them. While there is some discussion of chickens in sci.agriculture, the volume of poultry posts there combined with the volume of posts to the mailing lists demonstrates a clear need for a new poultry specific newsgroup. There are currently many active web pages (WWW) on the net. The number of web pages devoted to poultry indicates world wide interest in poultry topics. A small sampling of these are listed here: "The Chicken Coop" (http://www.transport.com/~lhadley/index.html) "The Chicken Page" (http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~ifza664/index.html) "The FeatherSite" (http://www.cyborganic.com/People/stefan/brkpage/ FeatherSite.html) "Poultry Fancy Page" (http://www.sjc.ox.ac.uk/users/martin/andy/pfanc1.html) "Chickens On The Electronic Highway" (http://www.well.com/user/themook/) "Chick Map" (http://www.ri.bbsrc.ac.uk/chickmap/ChickMapHomePage.html) The owner of the "Chicken Coop" is . He has reported 990 hits in December 1995 and 1450 hits in January 1996. He gets an average of 5 poultry web page related email responses per day. If you multiply this times the number of other poultry web pages, you can see that there is a lot of interest in poultry in general. The name chosen for this group is sci.agriculture.poultry, which is highly suggestive of its proposed content. When people search for poultry related newsgroups, it will be easy for them to find this newsgroup. We were not aware of any poultry discussion in sci.agriculture until one of the 'group-mentors' mentioned it. Likewise, we feel that many other people are also unaware of poultry discussion there. By creating a poultry specific newsgroup, many poultry people will be able to locate it and share information and ideas. By creating this newsgroup, we will not be competing with the existing sci.agriculture group, but rather permitting people interested in both general agriculture and poultry to have their own forum. There will still be a broad range of agricultural topics that can be discussed in sci.agriculture. BACKGROUND STATISTICS FOR POULTRY DISCUSSION: Mailing Lists DOM_BIRD 200 subscribers / 10 posts daily (average) PLTRYNWS 400 subscribers / 5 posts daily (average) Obviously, if more people knew about these mailing lists, there would be much more activity and subscribers. Even still, people are UnSubscribing and leaving word that the reason was due to too many posts filling up their mailboxes. Existing Newsgroups sci.agriculture Seen up to 5 daily posts about poultry. Clearly, there would be many more posts in sci.agriculture if more people were aware of poultry discussion going on in that group. RATIONALE: sci.agriculture.ratites The Ratite Industry has grown tremendously over the past couple of years. Ray Block , producer of the CALEA News Update magazine for the California Emu Association, reports that the Jan/Feb 1996 issue of CALEA News was mailed out to over 1000 ratite ranchers. Distribution of the magazine includes issues being sent out to Canada, Japan, Spain and Australia. Recently, the ratite industry has received USDA Meat Inspection approval. This means that ratite meat can now be served in US restaurants and grocery stores. Krogers in Texas and HEB in California are already selling the ratite meat. Contact has also been established so that US ranchers can ship products into other countries, up to and including China. Further endeavors include shipping 1 Gallon Size containers of Emu Oil to the largest burn centers in 50 countries for research. A currently active ratite web site, located at http://www.axs.net/~ektor/ratite.html, has been accessed approximately 9000 times since its creation. The most active section of the web page has been the listing of ratite farmers on the internet. Currently, this page lists around 60 farmers with email addresses. Ray Williams, the pagemaster, reports that he personally receives around 40 to 50 messages a day that deal with the ratite industry. Ray is also working on opening up a commercial web site for the distribution of ratite information. This web site will be located at www.ratite.net. Finally, there are currently two email mailing lists that deal with ratite ranching. The American list, called Ratite (owned by Ray Williams ), currently has around 180 subscribers and averages about 7-10 messages per day. The Canadian list, called Ratite-News (owned by Barry Judson ), has about 50 subscribers. The mail traffic on the Canadian list is slightly less (due to less chit-chat), but the information exchanged is very up-to-date and informative. These numbers, combined with the occasional ratite post on the mailing lists DOM_BIRD and PLTRYNWS and the newsgroups rec.birds and rec.pets.birds, are enough to show that there is a definite interest on the internet for a ratite newsgroup. CHARTER: sci.agriculture.poultry This unmoderated newsgroup is open to discussion of material relating to the humane farming of chickens and other livestock fowl. All articles that are concerned with poultry farming topics are welcome in the group. Examples of domesticated birds (not limited to these) Chickens - home flock, commercial and fancy breeds Ducks Doves - homing and fancy breeds Geese Jungle Fowl Peafowl Pheasants Turkeys Allowed Topics (not limited to these) Breeding/Breeders Clubs/Organizations Equipment Used Exhibit/Show Announcements Genetics Health/Veterinary Care & Management Housing Legislation/Regulations concerning domesticated animals Marketing Nutrition & Nutritional Research Places to Purchase/Sell Inappropriate Topics Animals rights (see talk.animal.rights) Exotic, caged birds (see rec.pets.birds) Hunting (see rec.hunting.*) Non-poultry related advertising (spamming) Vegetarianism Wild birds (see rec.birds) END CHARTER. CHARTER: sci.agriculture.ratites This unmoderated newsgroup is open to discussion of all topics related to the ownership, breeding, exhibiting, and farming of birds considered to be ratites. Examples of ratites (not limited to these) Cassowary Emu Ostrich Rhea Allowed Topics (not limited to these) Breeding/Breeders Clubs/Organizations Equipment Used Exhibit/Show Announcements Genetics Health/Veterinary Care & Management Housing Legislation/Regulations concerning domesticated animals Marketing Nutrition & Nutritional Research Places to Purchase/Sell Inappropriate Topics Animals rights (see talk.animal.rights) Birds that are not considered ratites Hunting (see rec.hunting.*) Vegetarianism END CHARTER. HOW TO VOTE: Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before and after the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and "END OF BALLOT" lines. Don't worry about the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your reply inserts. PLEASE, do not send the entire CFV back to me as this mail is archived. Mark the ballot and then MAIL it to: Just "replying" to this message should work, but check the "To:" line. In order to properly record your vote, please provide your REAL NAME and indicate your desired vote in the appropriate locations inside the ballot. Examples of how to properly indicate your vote: [ YES ] example.yes.vote [ NO ] example.no.vote [ ABSTAIN ] example.abstention [ CANCEL ] example.cancellation *** PLEASE *** DO NOT alter, modify, or delete any other information in this ballot! If you do, the voting software will probably reject your vote. ===== BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete everything BEFORE this line ===== ------------------------------------------------------------------- sci.agriculture.{poultry,ratites} Ballot (Do not remove this marker!) ------------------------------------------------------------------- Please provide your real name, or your vote may be rejected. Place ONLY your name (ie. do NOT include your e-mail address or any other information; ONLY your name) on the next line beside "Voter name:". Voter name: ------------------------------------------------------------------- Insert YES, NO, ABSTAIN, or CANCEL inside the brackets for each newsgroup listed below (do not delete the newsgroup name): Your Vote Newsgroup --------- --------- [ ] sci.agriculture.poultry [ ] sci.agriculture.ratites ------------------------------------------------------------------- ===== END OF BALLOT: Delete everything AFTER this line ============ IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: Standard Guidelines for voting apply. Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account. Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker. Anonymous, forwarded, or proxy votes are not valid. Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered to be anonymous votes. Vote counting is automated. Failure to follow these directions may mean that your vote does not get counted. If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days, contact the votetaker about the problem. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly. Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote. Names, addresses, and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results post. DO NOT redistribute this CFV in any manner whatsoever. The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup. Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose. Only the votetaker, the news.announce.newgroups moderator, and the proponent (if specifically authorized by the votetaker) are permitted to distribute copies of this CFV. Distribution of pre-marked or otherwise modified copies of this CFV is generally considered voting fraud and should be reported immediately to the votetaker or the UVV . In cases where voting fraud is determined to have occurred, it is standard operating procedure to delete ALL votes submitted by the violator. When in doubt, ask the votetaker. DISTRIBUTION: The only official sources for copies of this CFV are the locations listed below and the votetaker's e-mail CFV server which can be reached at . This CFV has been cross-posted to: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, alt.agriculture.misc, alt.agriculture.ratites, alt.sustainable.agriculture, misc.rural, rec.birds, rec.pets.birds, sci.agriculture, sci.agriculture.beekeeping The 1st CFV will also appear on the following mailing list: DOM_BIRD Domesticated/Farmyard bird discussion group Submission address: DOM_BIRD@PLEARN.EDU.PL Request address: listserv@PLEARN.EDU.PL PLTRYNWS Poultry Health, Production and Management News Submission address: PLTRYNWS@SDSUVM.SDSTATE.EDU Request address: listserv@SDSUVM.SDSTATE.EDU From votetaker@netagw.com Sun Mar 10 20:16:16 1996 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: votetaker@netagw.com (Bill Aten) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.agriculture.misc,alt.sustainable.agriculture,misc.rural,rec.birds,rec.pets.birds,sci.agriculture,sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: 2nd CFV: sci.agriculture.{poultry,ratites} Supersedes: <12598.16199.261277@uunet.uu.net> Followup-To: poster Date: 11 Mar 1996 01:16:16 -0000 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 332 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Approved: newgroups-request@uunet.uu.net Expires: 23 Mar 1996 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <826506968.15993@uunet.uu.net> References: <823403099.17386@uunet.uu.net> <12598.16199.261277@uunet.uu.net> Reply-To: poultry-vote@netagw.com NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: sci.agriculture.poultry Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:8374 news.groups:193326 alt.agriculture.misc:6926 alt.sustainable.agriculture:11235 misc.rural:27610 rec.birds:36623 rec.pets.birds:58109 sci.agriculture:9758 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:3983 LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) unmoderated group sci.agriculture.poultry unmoderated group sci.agriculture.ratites Newsgroups lines: sci.agriculture.poultry Chickens, ducks, geese, and other poultry. sci.agriculture.ratites Ostrich, emu, rhea, or cassowary ranching. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 22 Mar 1996. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Dennis Hawkins Proponent: Michael & Susan Harmon Proponent: Kathryn A. Smith Proponent: Bob Weber Proponent: Steven Whatley Votetaker: Bill Aten RATIONALE: sci.agriculture.poultry Since the beginning of recorded history, mankind has owed a debt to the chicken and other poultry. Their eggs and meat have provided food for our ancestors during times of famine. Today, they are a valuable agricultural resource and many poultry farmers around the world, from the backyard enthusiast to the multi-million bird production facility, have become Internet users seeking information regarding poultry related issues. One of the main purposes of the Internet is to get information out to people as efficiently as possible. Having a newsgroup specifically for poultry will allow experienced and knowledgeable poultry keepers to share their ideas and practices with those that are less experienced. It will also allow poultry keepers to learn about the different husbandry practices used to manage poultry throughout the world. Currently there is no poultry specific newsgroup on the Internet. We have located two poultry related mailing lists. These are PLTRYNWS and DOM_BIRD. They can be subscribed to by sending a subscription request to and respectively. Both lists are quite busy. Together they generate about 15 posts per day. The PLTRYNWS list seems to specialize in scientific and medical poultry topics and the DOM_BIRD list seems to specialize in domesticated birds as pets. The mailing list owners have claimed over 600 subscribers total. This poultry newsgroup, if created, would encompass the subject matter of both mailing lists plus more. There are many people interested in poultry just waiting for a newsgroup to call home. The mention of our proposing this RFD has already caused a positive response in the form of supportive email. Currently, there are other agriculture related newsgroups on the Internet, however poultry is only a small percentage of the many topics discussed in them. While there is some discussion of chickens in sci.agriculture, the volume of poultry posts there combined with the volume of posts to the mailing lists demonstrates a clear need for a new poultry specific newsgroup. There are currently many active web pages (WWW) on the net. The number of web pages devoted to poultry indicates world wide interest in poultry topics. A small sampling of these are listed here: "The Chicken Coop" (http://www.transport.com/~lhadley/index.html) "The Chicken Page" (http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~ifza664/index.html) "The FeatherSite" (http://www.cyborganic.com/People/stefan/brkpage/ FeatherSite.html) "Poultry Fancy Page" (http://www.sjc.ox.ac.uk/users/martin/andy/pfanc1.html) "Chickens On The Electronic Highway" (http://www.well.com/user/themook/) "Chick Map" (http://www.ri.bbsrc.ac.uk/chickmap/ChickMapHomePage.html) The owner of the "Chicken Coop" is . He has reported 990 hits in December 1995 and 1450 hits in January 1996. He gets an average of 5 poultry web page related email responses per day. If you multiply this times the number of other poultry web pages, you can see that there is a lot of interest in poultry in general. The name chosen for this group is sci.agriculture.poultry, which is highly suggestive of its proposed content. When people search for poultry related newsgroups, it will be easy for them to find this newsgroup. We were not aware of any poultry discussion in sci.agriculture until one of the 'group-mentors' mentioned it. Likewise, we feel that many other people are also unaware of poultry discussion there. By creating a poultry specific newsgroup, many poultry people will be able to locate it and share information and ideas. By creating this newsgroup, we will not be competing with the existing sci.agriculture group, but rather permitting people interested in both general agriculture and poultry to have their own forum. There will still be a broad range of agricultural topics that can be discussed in sci.agriculture. BACKGROUND STATISTICS FOR POULTRY DISCUSSION: Mailing Lists DOM_BIRD 200 subscribers / 10 posts daily (average) PLTRYNWS 400 subscribers / 5 posts daily (average) Obviously, if more people knew about these mailing lists, there would be much more activity and subscribers. Even still, people are UnSubscribing and leaving word that the reason was due to too many posts filling up their mailboxes. Existing Newsgroups sci.agriculture Seen up to 5 daily posts about poultry. Clearly, there would be many more posts in sci.agriculture if more people were aware of poultry discussion going on in that group. RATIONALE: sci.agriculture.ratites The Ratite Industry has grown tremendously over the past couple of years. Ray Block , producer of the CALEA News Update magazine for the California Emu Association, reports that the Jan/Feb 1996 issue of CALEA News was mailed out to over 1000 ratite ranchers. Distribution of the magazine includes issues being sent out to Canada, Japan, Spain and Australia. Recently, the ratite industry has received USDA Meat Inspection approval. This means that ratite meat can now be served in US restaurants and grocery stores. Krogers in Texas and HEB in California are already selling the ratite meat. Contact has also been established so that US ranchers can ship products into other countries, up to and including China. Further endeavors include shipping 1 Gallon Size containers of Emu Oil to the largest burn centers in 50 countries for research. A currently active ratite web site, located at http://www.axs.net/~ektor/ratite.html, has been accessed approximately 9000 times since its creation. The most active section of the web page has been the listing of ratite farmers on the internet. Currently, this page lists around 60 farmers with email addresses. Ray Williams, the pagemaster, reports that he personally receives around 40 to 50 messages a day that deal with the ratite industry. Ray is also working on opening up a commercial web site for the distribution of ratite information. This web site will be located at www.ratite.net. Finally, there are currently two email mailing lists that deal with ratite ranching. The American list, called Ratite (owned by Ray Williams ), currently has around 180 subscribers and averages about 7-10 messages per day. The Canadian list, called Ratite-News (owned by Barry Judson ), has about 50 subscribers. The mail traffic on the Canadian list is slightly less (due to less chit-chat), but the information exchanged is very up-to-date and informative. These numbers, combined with the occasional ratite post on the mailing lists DOM_BIRD and PLTRYNWS and the newsgroups rec.birds and rec.pets.birds, are enough to show that there is a definite interest on the internet for a ratite newsgroup. CHARTER: sci.agriculture.poultry This unmoderated newsgroup is open to discussion of material relating to the humane farming of chickens and other livestock fowl. All articles that are concerned with poultry farming topics are welcome in the group. Examples of domesticated birds (not limited to these) Chickens - home flock, commercial and fancy breeds Ducks Doves - homing and fancy breeds Geese Jungle Fowl Peafowl Pheasants Turkeys Allowed Topics (not limited to these) Breeding/Breeders Clubs/Organizations Equipment Used Exhibit/Show Announcements Genetics Health/Veterinary Care & Management Housing Legislation/Regulations concerning domesticated animals Marketing Nutrition & Nutritional Research Places to Purchase/Sell Inappropriate Topics Animals rights (see talk.animal.rights) Exotic, caged birds (see rec.pets.birds) Hunting (see rec.hunting.*) Non-poultry related advertising (spamming) Vegetarianism Wild birds (see rec.birds) END CHARTER. CHARTER: sci.agriculture.ratites This unmoderated newsgroup is open to discussion of all topics related to the ownership, breeding, exhibiting, and farming of birds considered to be ratites. Examples of ratites (not limited to these) Cassowary Emu Ostrich Rhea Allowed Topics (not limited to these) Breeding/Breeders Clubs/Organizations Equipment Used Exhibit/Show Announcements Genetics Health/Veterinary Care & Management Housing Legislation/Regulations concerning domesticated animals Marketing Nutrition & Nutritional Research Places to Purchase/Sell Inappropriate Topics Animals rights (see talk.animal.rights) Birds that are not considered ratites Hunting (see rec.hunting.*) Vegetarianism END CHARTER. HOW TO VOTE: Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before and after the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and "END OF BALLOT" lines. Don't worry about the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your reply inserts. PLEASE, do not send the entire CFV back to me as this mail is archived. Mark the ballot and then MAIL it to: Just "replying" to this message should work, but check the "To:" line. 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This CFV has been cross-posted to: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, alt.agriculture.misc, alt.agriculture.ratites, alt.sustainable.agriculture, misc.rural, rec.birds, rec.pets.birds, sci.agriculture, sci.agriculture.beekeeping The 1st CFV will also appear on the following mailing list: DOM_BIRD Domesticated/Farmyard bird discussion group Submission address: DOM_BIRD@PLEARN.EDU.PL Request address: listserv@PLEARN.EDU.PL PLTRYNWS Poultry Health, Production and Management News Submission address: PLTRYNWS@SDSUVM.SDSTATE.EDU Request address: listserv@SDSUVM.SDSTATE.EDU sci.agriculture.{poultry,ratites} Bounce List (No need to revote) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Deborah_Ruppert@ccm.jf.intel.com Deborah Ruppert denita@204.247.0.104 Denita Widders From bill@netagw.com Fri Mar 22 20:15:40 1996 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: bill@netagw.com (Bill Aten) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.agriculture.misc,alt.sustainable.agriculture,misc.rural,rec.birds,rec.pets.birds,sci.agriculture,sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: RESULT: sci.agriculture.{poultry,ratites} all groups pass Supersedes: <826506968.15993@uunet.uu.net> Followup-To: news.groups Date: 22 Mar 1996 20:15:56 -0500 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 679 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Approved: newgroups-request@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <827543736.3973@uunet.uu.net> References: <823403099.17386@uunet.uu.net> <12598.16199.261277@uunet.uu.net> <826506968.15993@uunet.uu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: sci.agriculture.poultry Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:8441 news.groups:195932 alt.agriculture.misc:7081 alt.sustainable.agriculture:11556 misc.rural:28118 rec.birds:37413 rec.pets.birds:58973 sci.agriculture:10015 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:4072 RESULT unmoderated group sci.agriculture.poultry passes 363:19 unmoderated group sci.agriculture.ratites passes 327:26 Voting closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 22 Mar 1996. This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Dennis Hawkins Proponent: Michael & Susan Harmon Proponent: Kathryn A. Smith Proponent: Bob Weber Proponent: Steven Whatley Votetaker: Bill Aten There were 391 valid votes submitted during the voting period. Each proposed newsgroup, in order to pass, must have at least 2/3 YES votes and at least 100 more YES than NO votes. The results are as follows: sci.agriculture.{poultry,ratites} results - 391 valid votes Yes No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group ---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : ------------------------------------------- 363 19 : Yes Yes : Yes : sci.agriculture.poultry 327 26 : Yes Yes : Yes : sci.agriculture.ratites 11 invalid votes All parts of the proposal passed. There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted. If no serious and significant allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the newsgroups shortly thereafter. The remainder of the RESULT contains: Newsgroups Lines Rationale Charters Final Voting Acknowledgements NEWSGROUPS LINES: sci.agriculture.poultry Chickens, ducks, geese, and other poultry. sci.agriculture.ratites Ostrich, emu, rhea, or cassowary ranching. RATIONALE: sci.agriculture.poultry Since the beginning of recorded history, mankind has owed a debt to the chicken and other poultry. Their eggs and meat have provided food for our ancestors during times of famine. Today, they are a valuable agricultural resource and many poultry farmers around the world, from the backyard enthusiast to the multi-million bird production facility, have become Internet users seeking information regarding poultry related issues. One of the main purposes of the Internet is to get information out to people as efficiently as possible. Having a newsgroup specifically for poultry will allow experienced and knowledgeable poultry keepers to share their ideas and practices with those that are less experienced. It will also allow poultry keepers to learn about the different husbandry practices used to manage poultry throughout the world. Currently there is no poultry specific newsgroup on the Internet. We have located two poultry related mailing lists. These are PLTRYNWS and DOM_BIRD. They can be subscribed to by sending a subscription request to and respectively. Both lists are quite busy. Together they generate about 15 posts per day. The PLTRYNWS list seems to specialize in scientific and medical poultry topics and the DOM_BIRD list seems to specialize in domesticated birds as pets. The mailing list owners have claimed over 600 subscribers total. This poultry newsgroup, if created, would encompass the subject matter of both mailing lists plus more. There are many people interested in poultry just waiting for a newsgroup to call home. The mention of our proposing this RFD has already caused a positive response in the form of supportive email. Currently, there are other agriculture related newsgroups on the Internet, however poultry is only a small percentage of the many topics discussed in them. While there is some discussion of chickens in sci.agriculture, the volume of poultry posts there combined with the volume of posts to the mailing lists demonstrates a clear need for a new poultry specific newsgroup. There are currently many active web pages (WWW) on the net. The number of web pages devoted to poultry indicates world wide interest in poultry topics. A small sampling of these are listed here: "The Chicken Coop" (http://www.transport.com/~lhadley/index.html) "The Chicken Page" (http://ccwf.cc.utexas.edu/~ifza664/index.html) "The FeatherSite" (http://www.cyborganic.com/People/stefan/brkpage/ FeatherSite.html) "Poultry Fancy Page" (http://www.sjc.ox.ac.uk/users/martin/andy/pfanc1.html) "Chickens On The Electronic Highway" (http://www.well.com/user/themook/) "Chick Map" (http://www.ri.bbsrc.ac.uk/chickmap/ChickMapHomePage.html) The owner of the "Chicken Coop" is . He has reported 990 hits in December 1995 and 1450 hits in January 1996. He gets an average of 5 poultry web page related email responses per day. If you multiply this times the number of other poultry web pages, you can see that there is a lot of interest in poultry in general. The name chosen for this group is sci.agriculture.poultry, which is highly suggestive of its proposed content. When people search for poultry related newsgroups, it will be easy for them to find this newsgroup. We were not aware of any poultry discussion in sci.agriculture until one of the 'group-mentors' mentioned it. Likewise, we feel that many other people are also unaware of poultry discussion there. By creating a poultry specific newsgroup, many poultry people will be able to locate it and share information and ideas. By creating this newsgroup, we will not be competing with the existing sci.agriculture group, but rather permitting people interested in both general agriculture and poultry to have their own forum. There will still be a broad range of agricultural topics that can be discussed in sci.agriculture. BACKGROUND STATISTICS FOR POULTRY DISCUSSION: Mailing Lists DOM_BIRD 200 subscribers / 10 posts daily (average) PLTRYNWS 400 subscribers / 5 posts daily (average) Obviously, if more people knew about these mailing lists, there would be much more activity and subscribers. Even still, people are UnSubscribing and leaving word that the reason was due to too many posts filling up their mailboxes. Existing Newsgroups sci.agriculture Seen up to 5 daily posts about poultry. Clearly, there would be many more posts in sci.agriculture if more people were aware of poultry discussion going on in that group. RATIONALE: sci.agriculture.ratites The Ratite Industry has grown tremendously over the past couple of years. Ray Block , producer of the CALEA News Update magazine for the California Emu Association, reports that the Jan/Feb 1996 issue of CALEA News was mailed out to over 1000 ratite ranchers. Distribution of the magazine includes issues being sent out to Canada, Japan, Spain and Australia. Recently, the ratite industry has received USDA Meat Inspection approval. This means that ratite meat can now be served in US restaurants and grocery stores. Krogers in Texas and HEB in California are already selling the ratite meat. Contact has also been established so that US ranchers can ship products into other countries, up to and including China. Further endeavors include shipping 1 Gallon Size containers of Emu Oil to the largest burn centers in 50 countries for research. A currently active ratite web site, located at http://www.axs.net/~ektor/ratite.html, has been accessed approximately 9000 times since its creation. The most active section of the web page has been the listing of ratite farmers on the internet. Currently, this page lists around 60 farmers with email addresses. Ray Williams, the pagemaster, reports that he personally receives around 40 to 50 messages a day that deal with the ratite industry. Ray is also working on opening up a commercial web site for the distribution of ratite information. This web site will be located at www.ratite.net. Finally, there are currently two email mailing lists that deal with ratite ranching. The American list, called Ratite (owned by Ray Williams ), currently has around 180 subscribers and averages about 7-10 messages per day. The Canadian list, called Ratite-News (owned by Barry Judson ), has about 50 subscribers. The mail traffic on the Canadian list is slightly less (due to less chit-chat), but the information exchanged is very up-to-date and informative. These numbers, combined with the occasional ratite post on the mailing lists DOM_BIRD and PLTRYNWS and the newsgroups rec.birds and rec.pets.birds, are enough to show that there is a definite interest on the internet for a ratite newsgroup. CHARTER: sci.agriculture.poultry This unmoderated newsgroup is open to discussion of material relating to the humane farming of chickens and other livestock fowl. All articles that are concerned with poultry farming topics are welcome in the group. Examples of domesticated birds (not limited to these) Chickens - home flock, commercial and fancy breeds Ducks Doves - homing and fancy breeds Geese Jungle Fowl Peafowl Pheasants Turkeys Allowed Topics (not limited to these) Breeding/Breeders Clubs/Organizations Equipment Used Exhibit/Show Announcements Genetics Health/Veterinary Care & Management Housing Legislation/Regulations concerning domesticated animals Marketing Nutrition & Nutritional Research Places to Purchase/Sell Inappropriate Topics Animals rights (see talk.animal.rights) Exotic, caged birds (see rec.pets.birds) Hunting (see rec.hunting.*) Non-poultry related advertising (spamming) Vegetarianism Wild birds (see rec.birds) END CHARTER. CHARTER: sci.agriculture.ratites This unmoderated newsgroup is open to discussion of all topics related to the ownership, breeding, exhibiting, and farming of birds considered to be ratites. Examples of ratites (not limited to these) Cassowary Emu Ostrich Rhea Allowed Topics (not limited to these) Breeding/Breeders Clubs/Organizations Equipment Used Exhibit/Show Announcements Genetics Health/Veterinary Care & Management Housing Legislation/Regulations concerning domesticated animals Marketing Nutrition & Nutritional Research Places to Purchase/Sell Inappropriate Topics Animals rights (see talk.animal.rights) Birds that are not considered ratites Hunting (see rec.hunting.*) Vegetarianism END CHARTER. FINAL VOTING ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS: sci.agriculture.{poultry,ratites} Final Vote Ack sci.agriculture.ratites ----+ sci.agriculture.poultry ---+| || 70461.2772@compuserve.com Charles H. Gibson YY 71660.2147@compuserve.com Greg May YY 74664.1477@compuserve.com Pamela N. Marietta YY abuys@voicenet.com Albert Buys YY adamp@mcs.net Adam Pierce YY adegener@mail.vt.edu Arthur W. 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