From tomg@mishima.mn.org Tue Dec 14 14:22:42 1993 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: tomg@mishima.mn.org (Thomas Greenwalt) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.crafts.metalworking,rec.crafts.misc Subject: RFD: rec.crafts.lapidary Followup-To: news.groups Date: 13 Dec 1993 14:57:33 -0500 Organization: Alternate Realities Lines: 11 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <2eihfdINN8pt@rodan.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4395 news.groups:90048 rec.crafts.metalworking:3244 rec.crafts.misc:2876 Request for Discussion (RFD): rec.crafts.lapidary Proposed Charter: Basically this would be an unmoderated newsgroup for the discussion of gems, gemcutting, jewelry, jewelry making and related topics (workshops, displays, sources for materials, etc.). -- Thomas S. Greenwalt (Tom-Too) tomg@mishima.mn.org 7300 Nicollet Ave. S, Mpls, MN 55423-3121 TomgVR@aol.com *********** Magic isn't something you do, it's something you are. *********** From tomg@mishima.mn.org Tue Jan 25 19:25:22 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: tomg@mishima.mn.org (Thomas Greenwalt) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.crafts.metalworking,rec.crafts.misc Subject: 2nd RFD: rec.crafts.jewelry Followup-To: news.groups Date: 24 Jan 1994 22:46:25 -0500 Organization: Alternate Realities Lines: 17 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: References: <2eihfdINN8pt@rodan.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4521 news.groups:92953 rec.crafts.metalworking:3748 rec.crafts.misc:3201 RFD: rec.crafts.jewelry This started out as 'rec.crafts.lapidary', however the first round of discussion seemed to feel that 'rec.crafts.jewelry' would be a better name. I started a mailing list and the general discussions there cover a wide enough range of topics that I agree with that. The Charter: Basically this would be an unmoderated newsgroup for the discussion of gems, gemcutting, jewelry, jewelry making and related topics (workshops, displays, sources for materials, etc.). -- Thomas S. Greenwalt (Tom-Too) tomg@mishima.mn.org 7300 Nicollet Ave. S, Mpls, MN 55423-3121 TomgVR@aol.com *********** Magic isn't something you do, it's something you are. *********** From rdippold@qualcomm.com (RonDippold) Tue Feb 15 11:07:41 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.arts.bodyart,rec.crafts.metalworking,rec.crafts.misc,sci.geo.geology Subject: CFV: rec.crafts.jewelry Followup-To: poster Date: 14 Feb 1994 18:46:00 -0500 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 41 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Expires: 8 Mar 1994 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: References: Reply-To: voting@qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold Voting Alias) NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4622 news.groups:95475 rec.arts.bodyart:12945 rec.crafts.metalworking:4080 rec.crafts.misc:3426 sci.geo.geology:9279 FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) unmoderated group rec.crafts.jewelry Newsgroups line: rec.crafts.jewelry All aspects of jewelry making. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 7 March 1994. After it appears in news.announce.newgroups, the CFV will be sent to the jewelry mailing list at . This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting questions only contact rdippold@qualcomm.com. For questions about the proposed group contact Thomas Greenwalt . CHARTER This would be an unmoderated newsgroup for the discussion of gems, gemcutting, jewelry, jewelry making and related topics (workshops, displays, sources for materials, etc.). This newsgroup would be gatewayed to the mailing list 'jewelry' at 'jewelry@mishima.mn.org'. HOW TO VOTE Send MAIL to: voting@qualcomm.com Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list. Your mail message should contain one of the following statements: I vote YES on rec.crafts.jewelry I vote NO on rec.crafts.jewelry You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome. Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge- ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly. Only one vote per person and per account will be counted. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list. From rdippold@qualcomm.com (RonDippold) Wed Feb 23 15:06:00 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.arts.bodyart,rec.crafts.metalworking,rec.crafts.misc,sci.geo.geology Subject: 2nd CFV: rec.crafts.jewelry Supersedes: Followup-To: poster Date: 22 Feb 1994 23:10:46 -0500 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 50 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Expires: 8 Mar 1994 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: References: Reply-To: voting@qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold Voting Alias) NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4667 news.groups:96298 rec.arts.bodyart:13261 rec.crafts.metalworking:4204 rec.crafts.misc:3514 sci.geo.geology:9517 LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) unmoderated group rec.crafts.jewelry Newsgroups line: rec.crafts.jewelry All aspects of jewelry making. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 7 March 1994. After it appears in news.announce.newgroups, the CFV will be sent to the jewelry mailing list at . This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting questions only contact rdippold@qualcomm.com. For questions about the proposed group contact Thomas Greenwalt . CHARTER This would be an unmoderated newsgroup for the discussion of gems, gemcutting, jewelry, jewelry making and related topics (workshops, displays, sources for materials, etc.). This newsgroup would be gatewayed to the mailing list 'jewelry' at 'jewelry@mishima.mn.org'. HOW TO VOTE Send MAIL to: voting@qualcomm.com Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list. Your mail message should contain one of the following statements: I vote YES on rec.crafts.jewelry I vote NO on rec.crafts.jewelry You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome. Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge- ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly. Only one vote per person and per account will be counted. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list. unmoderated group rec.crafts.jewelry Bounce Ack List - no need to revote ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ emt3@router.mail.cornell.edu mtxbrown@AMIGOS.ORG rick%thinker.UUCP wertzicw@ucunix.san.uc.EDU From rdippold@qualcomm.com (RonDippold) Wed Mar 9 23:31:11 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.arts.bodyart,rec.crafts.metalworking,rec.crafts.misc,sci.geo.geology Subject: RESULT: rec.crafts.jewelry passes 219:21 Supersedes: Followup-To: news.groups Date: 9 Mar 1994 18:52:29 -0500 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 292 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: References: Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4741 news.groups:97644 rec.arts.bodyart:13957 rec.crafts.metalworking:4409 rec.crafts.misc:3645 sci.geo.geology:9876 RESULTS unmoderated group rec.crafts.jewelry passes 219:21 There were 219 YES votes and 21 NO votes, for a total of 240 valid votes. There were 2 abstains and 3 invalid ballots. For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO) votes. There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted. If no serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter. Newsgroups line: rec.crafts.jewelry All aspects of jewelry making. This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. For voting questions only contact rdippold@qualcomm.com. For questions about the proposed group contact Thomas Greenwalt . CHARTER This would be an unmoderated newsgroup for the discussion of gems, gemcutting, jewelry, jewelry making and related topics (workshops, displays, sources for materials, etc.). This newsgroup would be gatewayed to the mailing list 'jewelry' at 'jewelry@mishima.mn.org'. unmoderated group rec.crafts.jewelry Final Vote Ack Voted Yes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ a43astra@ida.his.se Astrid Raidl ac3w@faraday.clas.virginia.edu Anna-Marie York adwyer@mason1.gmu.edu Ozric Tentacles af1x+@andrew.cmu.edu Alan S. Ferrency ahhardma@mailbox.syr.edu Andrew H. Hardman ALLENS@EARLHAM.EDU apoyner@as.arizona.edu Tony Poyner armstron@aeetes.re.anl.gov Donn Armstrong x5947 AVCHOLT@amber.indstate.edu Thomas W. Holt Jr., QRD Faerie B.Hergert@appcomp.utas.edu.au barbv@amber.ssd.csd.harris.com Barb VanDusen bec@u.washington.edu Rebecca Daria Ross bgriffin@libserv1.ic.sunysb.edu Benjamin Griffin bj@herbison.com B.J. Herbison bn293@cleveland.Freenet.Edu Douglas P. Shannon boelter@cwis.unomaha.edu John Boelter boet@oce.nl Henk Boetzkes botteron@gnu.ai.mit.edu Carol J. Botteron caadalin@mtu.edu Christopher Adaline cbabb@med.unc.edu Rebecca Braxton cdelucia@u.washington.edu Chris Delucia cf356@cleveland.Freenet.Edu Jen Doyle chappell@biostat.wisc.edu Rick Chappell christy_gade@csufresno.edu Christy Gade chuahl@soda.berkeley.edu Chua Hak Lien chuck.lampman@gstrf.gatech.edu Chuck Lampman claiborn@express.ctron.com Christian L Claiborn cls6@midway.uchicago.edu Cory L. Scott cohort@hebron.connected.com A cohort's CoHort cpuser17@apollo.hp.com Mark Ellison Craig.Peterson@amd.com Craig Peterson cs031056@cs.brown.edu jude shabry daa1@troi.cc.rochester.edu Deborah A. Abbott daveg@boa1.mcm.hp.com Dave Gembala dave_oshea@wiltel.com Dave O'Shea decvax!cmptrc.lonestar.org!neal@uucp-gw-2.pa.dec.com Neal Howard degroff@netcom.com 21012d demunckr@student.msu.edu Rachelle A Demunck Denise_Sobering@nih.gov Denise Sobering DHAYWARD@mtroyal.ab.ca dmurphy@cwa.com Dan Murphy dogcow@ccs.neu.edu Tom 'moof' Spindler dombey@plato.ds.boeing.com John R Dombey donna@ingres.com DONNA D. MCCOLLINS, HUMAN RESOURCES X3629 drayer@minerva.cis.yale.edu Rebecca Drayer dunlevey@pixie.udw.ac.za John Dunlevey duveneck@cs.uwp.edu Sandy Duveneck ea663@cleveland.Freenet.Edu Mark H. Huber eabyrnes@vela.acs.oakland.edu Ed Byrnes edgarm@rpi.edu Marc Edgar edwards@crl.com Gregory Edwards ekantar@yar.cs.wisc.edu David Hall emilyb@netcom.com Emily Breed emt3@router.mail.cornell.edu emt3 erica@sd.inri.com Erica Duddy es070@eng.warwick.ac.uk D Barnsdale ESN4616@ACFcluster.NYU.EDU Elliot Nesterman etldlcs@etlxd20.ericsson.se daniel chalmers xv/td FQV@PSUVM.PSU.EDU jim bowers Frances_Coombs@wwire.net fsspr@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu Sean P. Ryan fteaz@sn520.utica.ge.com anthony . zukowski ftells@sn520.utica.ge.com lee . seifried ftescr@sn520.utica.ge.com Stan C. Rachwal gap@Comtech.COM Greg A. Prior george@kiwi.gen.nz George Muzyka greendi@gov.on.ca Diane Green grogers@cymbal.aix.calpoly.edu gspear+@CMU.EDU Geoffrey Spear hawkjo@saturn.wwc.edu JON A HAWKINS hewett@gatwick.sgp.slb.com his3mem@cabell.vcu.edu Margaret E. McEnally hollasch@kpc.com Steve Hollasch holsten@nature.Berkeley.EDU Donna Holsten hsulliva@nermal.santarosa.edu Hal Sullivan htodd@mason1.gmu.edu Helen E Todd ICH418@ZAM001.ZAM.KFA-JUELICH.DE goran kniewald ICMLG@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU idias@maggoo.inescn.pt Ireneu Dias if16@jove.acs.unt.edu Morris Deanna Lyn irhhm@sn520.utica.ge.com Howard H. Mansur JADAMSON@INS.INFONET.NET jaf@a2.cim.cdc.com janders3@asc013.ets.ford.com John Anderson jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU James Alexander Chokey jdk@pine.cse.nau.edu Josh jds@media.mit.edu John D. Sutter jennifer@vessna.arc.nasa.gov Jennifer Dungan jfm@med.unc.edu John F. Miller jkfurr@eecs.umich.edu Joel Furr jleidy@nyx10.cs.du.edu Jeanne Leidy johnca@netcom.com John Abbe aka Rademir johnric@saturn.wwc.edu RICHARD ALLAN JOHNSON JOHNSON@tonic.pharm.arizona.edu Bruce Johnson jpe@metronet.com Jesse Ephraim jrufinus@students.wisc.edu judy.anderson@stpaul.ncr.com Judy Anderson juste001@maroon.tc.umn.edu James M. Justen jws@mlb.semi.harris.com James W. Swonger j_robert@oz.plymouth.edu J Robert Bonnngg kagalaka@cats.ucsc.edu karri@ee.tut.fi Palovuori Karri Tapani kat@eskimo.com Kathleen O'Bryan kathydr@sco.COM Kathy D Reid kgovea@math.ucla.edu Katharine Govea khearn@pyramid.com Keith Hearn Kim_Crocker@qmgated5.sc.us.adobe.com Kim Crocker kip@astro.washington.edu Kip kira@metronet.com Jacqueline Hamilton klingle@u.washington.edu Matthew Klingle Knut.Pedersen@imp.uib.no Knut Pedersen kpope@cs.sfu.ca Karen Pope krid@netcom.com Dirk T. Bergstrom ksdavis@nations.ucs.indiana.edu ksdavis larry@csccat.cs.com Larry Spence laurence@netcom.com Andrew Laurence lcg@lsil.com Lisa Greenbaum - 4900 lefty@netcom.com Paula Walter legowik@cme.nist.gov Steven Legowik lenore@cs.duke.edu Lenore Ramm Lord@sparrow.demon.co.uk Lord C lpenning@us.oracle.com Lisa Penninger lrabe@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Lee A Rabe M.D.Grimleigh1@student.lut.ac.uk Milton Grimleigh mackey.1@osu.edu Lynda Mackey MAHMGR@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com maruhasi@hrl.hitachi.co.jp MATELOCK@vax.edinboro.edu mberteig@alumni.cco.caltech.edu Michelle A. Berteig mcarberr@cate.ryerson.ca mick carberry mcbryde@math.UH.EDU Jack Mcbryde mcclenny@jurassic-248.Eng.Sun.COM John McClenny [CONTRACTOR] MEREDITH@gsoc0007.rm.op.dlr.de Tony Meredith mhecht@ingres.com Melanie Hecht michele@garnet.berkeley.edu Michele Tomkin micke@pe.umu.se mike_ausec@rainbow.mentorg.com Mike Ausec mml@Princeton.EDU Melissa M. Lawson morganh@adcmail.atlas.com Morgan Hall MORRISSEY@stsci.edu Mostly Harmless mrwarden@phoenix.Princeton.EDU Melissa Rhoads Warden ms_mocha@access.digex.net Ms. J. Mocha MTOPLIFF@pimacc.pima.edu mike l. topliff mtxbrown@AMIGOS.ORG Susan Browning murrayb@kiwi.gen.nz Murray Bott NARAHT@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU Randy Finder neilm@halcyon.com Neil R. Marsh NEUFELD@BrandonU.CA GERRY NEUFELD pami@JACK-VANCE.MIT.EDU P.J. Evans pandora@pandoras.nacjack.gen.nz Dawn Scotting patrickc@lclark.edu Patrick Cauldwell pazcw@unicorn.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk Clive Washington pda@leland.Stanford.EDU Paul Abramson PFISHER@UTKVX.UTCC.UTK.EDU Philip=Salem%Staff%DEV@HumRes-Server.Net.Tufts.EDU Phyllis_Gilmore@rand.org Phyllis Gilmore pjd@craycos.com Phil Duclos pjeran@hpbs720.boi.hp.com Paul Jeran plf@eos.arc.nasa.gov Pati French pmoravek@WPI.EDU Paula Moravek powers@cis.ohio-state.edu william thomas powers quinn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU Michael J. Quinn rabbit@student.umass.edu Rebecca J McFarland ralph@astro.lu.se Ralph Snel rcd@raven.eklektix.com Dick Dunn rcj@chevron.com R.C. Jones rdb1@homxb.att.com rdean@aol.com reidy@denali.gsfc.nasa.gov Anne-Marie Reidy rellis@panix.com Richard Ellis rem@nite.toppoint.de Rolf Elak rha@ralph.lafayette.la.us Ruth Alleman rick%thinker.UUCP Rick Yazwinski rick@bcm.tmc.edu Richard H. Miller rnmcgee@garnet.msen.com Robin C. McGee rodney@qpsx.oz.au Mr. Smooth at The House of Lloyd. ronnie@space.mit.edu Ron Schnell rosenbau@mr.med.ge.com Tom Rosenbaum 4-6853 MRCE RTREADWELL@delphi.com rukavina@peinet.pe.ca Peter Rukavina rzex60@email.mot.com Laurie Brandt schounj@andrews.edu Jeff Schoun shafer@ferhino.dfrf.nasa.gov Mary Shafer shimeall@cs.nps.navy.mil timothy shimeall slem@endor.dpl.scg.hac.com Sherlynn (Sherry) Lem slindsay@nyx10.cs.du.edu Steve Lindsay SLOANE@KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU Bob Sloane smt@uiuc.edu Susan Thomas snorthc@relay.nswc.navy.mil Stephen Northcutt - E81 stai@Jade.Tufts.EDU stave@zk3.dec.com steffen@terrapin.ctron.com STella@thelema.QueerNet.ORG stephi@hubble.IFA.Hawaii.Edu EOR steve@bluesky.com Steve Hampson steve@escher.sps.mot.com Steve Lansdowne tamzen@worldbenders.com Tamzen Cannoy tcomber@alsvid.scu.edu.au Tim Comber telenet!penguin!kpearson@uunet.UU.NET Kirk Pearson tmyers@unlinfo.unl.edu tim myers tom@psych.purdue.edu Tom Carnahan tomg@mishima.MN.ORG Thomas Greenwalt tomlnsn@rtsg.mot.com Dave Tomlinson Torsten.Lif@eos.ericsson.se Torsten Lif trk@palm.cray.com Tim Kirby U55015%UICVM@UIC.EDU veporter@mailbox.syr.edu Vicki E. Porter vernak@fix.fenris.com Verna Knapp vicki@ecs.educ.ubc.ca Vicki Domansky vln@icpsr.umich.edu Victoria Neff vogon1!frackit!dave@cse.psu.edu Dave Ratcliffe wallace@stsci.edu Debra Wallace wap1@Lehigh.EDU Warren A. Pillsbury WARRENWETZ@delphi.com wehr@etcv01.eld.ford.com M B Wehr (Bruce) wertzicw@ucunix.san.uc.EDU Charles W Wertz iii winters+@pitt.edu David C Winters XID@PSUVM.PSU.EDU David C. Glick Yadallee%Gallif@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca Dave Shariff Yadallee Voted No ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ al198723@academ01.mty.itesm.mx JESUS EUGENIO SANCHEZ PENA antersbe@informatik.tu-muenchen.de Stefan Antersberger blair@mksol.dseg.ti.com arthur blair childers@gab.unt.edu JAMES CHILDERS crouchkp@flidh102.delcoelect.com d9bertil@dtek.chalmers.se Bertil Jonell elharo@shock.njit.edu Elliotte Rusty Harold hansenr@ohsu.EDU jrm@globalvillag.com John R. MacWilliamson julian@bongo.tele.com Julian Macassey kandrson@world.std.com lonadar@judy.indstate.edu Lonadar the Wanderer rasmuss@CSOS.ORST.EDU Steve Rasmussen ren@rap.ucar.EDU Ren Tescher revu@midway.uchicago.edu Sendhil Revuluri rmm20@juts.ccc.amdahl.com Robert Mitchell shaneh@netcom.com K. Shane Hartman soundmind@aol.com stainles@bga.com Dwight Brown WARD@ernie.van.forintek.ca Ward F. Bush whostler@procy.gi.com wade hostler Abstained ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ jason@radar.demon.co.uk Jason Faultless mmt@RedBrick.COM Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS Votes in error ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ jmcewen@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu ! No vote statement in message rnash@zserv2.dsac.dla.mil Ronza R Nash ! Conflicting votes system@pandoras.nacjack.gen.nz SYSTEM 0PERATOR ! Invalid address From jfm@med.unc.edu Wed Jan 8 18:18:48 1997 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: John Miller Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.crafts.jewelry,rec.crafts.metalworking,rec.crafts.beads,rec.crafts.carving Subject: RFD: rec.crafts.jewelry moderated Followup-To: news.groups Date: 8 Jan 1997 23:18:42 -0000 Organization: . Lines: 120 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Approved: newgroups-request@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <852765521.16684@uunet.uu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: rec.crafts.jewelry Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:9490 news.groups:246063 rec.crafts.jewelry:17034 rec.crafts.metalworking:49379 rec.crafts.beads:12769 rec.crafts.carving:1308 REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) moderated group rec.crafts.jewelry This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the reorganization of the world-wide unmoderated Usenet newsgroup rec.crafts.jewelry as a moderated newsgroup. This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details are below. Newsgroup line: rec.crafts.jewelry Discussion of jewelry making and gemology. (Moderated) RATIONALE: rec.crafts.jewelry The existing newsgroup rec.crafts.jewelry was formed as an unmoderated newsgroup for the discussion of topics related to the crafts of jewelry making and gemcutting. For some time, this group enjoyed numerous lively on-topic conversations by an active core of enthusiasts. As USENET participation has grown rapidly over the past few months, this group has become inundated with many unwelcome off-topic posts and blatant advertisements of goods and services. The resulting lack of focus threatens the useful existence of this newsgroup, as many serious jewelry enthusiasts, including jewelers, gemologists, lapidaries, and collectors, have begun to abandon the group. It is proposed that rec.crafts.jewelry be converted into a moderated group for the purpose of eliminating off-topic posts and advertisements that violate standard USENET netiquette. CHARTER: rec.crafts.jewelry The proposed newsgroup would provide a place for discussion of questions and answers regarding the crafts of jewelry making and gemcutting. Tips, tricks and informational posting would be welcomed as well. Mutual assistance and support would be greatly encouraged. This would be a moderated newsgroup, with no official ties or connection to any commercial vendor. 'Spamming' of commercial or other messages not related to the topic of the newsgroup rec.crafts.jewelry, and other violations of standard Usenet newsgroup netiquette, as expressed in the Usenet FAQs on the subject, are not permitted. Articles cross-posted to four or more newsgroups will not be permitted. Binary posts are not permitted in rec.crafts.jewelry under any circumstances. It is the moderator's responsibility to ensure that postings are free from verbal abuse and personal attacks. Article content will be the sole criterion of judgement. Authorship will not be a criterion for any decisions. The newsgroup is for information and discussion of the crafts involved in the production of jewelry. It is not a marketplace, and posting of ads by any individual or vendor, primary or third party, is not permitted except under the conditions described below. Occasional advertisements for used books, tools, and equipment, for one-time liquidations of shops or collections, or for rare, difficult to obtain materials and services, may be permitted. Such postings will be scrutinized carefully and screened to eliminate "spam" or untargeted "scatter" advertisement. If an advertisement is permitted, only one advert per individual, vendor or organisation may be posted to the group per month. The subject line must begin with '[ADVERT]' (excluding the quote marks). More information on advertising will be provided in a newsgroup FAQ document once the moderation of the group has been initiated. END CHARTER. MODERATOR INFO: rec.crafts.jewelry Moderator: Peter W. Rowe Mr. Rowe is an accomplished custom jeweler, gemologist, and lapidary and has contributed numerous technical articles to the existing unmoderated group in the past. He holds a Master of Fine Arts degree and a Graduate Gemologist diploma. Mr. Rowe has agreed to act as moderator, and numerous participants in the existing group have expressed confidence in his ability to act in a fair and even-handed manner in this capacity. Other persons and/or sites willing to participate in the moderation are invited to contact the Proponent(s). END MODERATOR INFO. PROCEDURE: This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups should be raised and resolved. The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion warrants it. Please do not attempt to vote until this happens. All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups. This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal". Please refer to these documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any questions about the process. DISTRIBUTION: This RFD will be cross-posted to the following relevant newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, rec.crafts.jewelry, rec.crafts.metalworking, rec.crafts.beads, rec.crafts.carving It will also be made available to relevant private mailing lists on a number of on-line services once it has been posted to Usenet. -- Proponent: John Miller From jpatokal@alpha.hut.fi Mon Feb 24 11:04:25 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Jani Patokallio Reply-To: voting@hut.fi Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.crafts.beads,rec.crafts.carving,rec.crafts.jewelry,rec.crafts.metalworking Subject: CFV: rec.crafts.jewelry moderated Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <856810139.888@isc.org> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Expires: 18 Mar 1997 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: rec.crafts.jewelry Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 18:48:59 GMT Lines: 134 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:109 FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) moderated group rec.crafts.jewelry Newsgroups line: rec.crafts.jewelry Jewelry making and gemology. (Moderated) Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 17 Mar 1997. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Direct questions about the proposed group to the proponent. Do not distribute this CFV or the information contained in it in any form without the votetaker's permission. Proponent: John Miller Votetaker: Jani Patokallio RATIONALE: rec.crafts.jewelry The existing newsgroup rec.crafts.jewelry was formed as an unmoderated newsgroup for the discussion of topics related to the crafts of jewelry making and gemcutting. For some time, this group enjoyed numerous lively on-topic conversations by an active core of enthusiasts. As USENET participation has grown rapidly over the past few months, this group has become inundated with many unwelcome off-topic posts and blatant advertisements of goods and services. The resulting lack of focus threatens the useful existence of this newsgroup, as many serious jewelry enthusiasts, including jewelers, gemologists, lapidaries, and collectors, have begun to abandon the group. It is proposed that rec.crafts.jewelry be converted into a moderated group for the purpose of eliminating off-topic posts and advertisements that violate standard USENET netiquette. CHARTER: rec.crafts.jewelry The newsgroup provides a place for discussion of questions and answers regarding the crafts of jewelry making and gemcutting. Tips, tricks and informational posting are welcomed as well. Mutual assistance and support are greatly encouraged. This is a moderated newsgroup, with no official ties or connection to any commercial vendor. 'Spamming' of commercial or other messages not related to the topic of the newsgroup rec.crafts.jewelry, and other violations of standard Usenet newsgroup netiquette, as expressed in the Usenet FAQs on the subject, are not permitted. Articles cross-posted to four or more newsgroups will not be permitted. Binary posts are not permitted in rec.crafts.jewelry under any circumstances. It is the moderator's responsibility to ensure that postings are free from verbal abuse and personal attacks. Article content will be the sole criterion of judgement. Authorship will not be a criterion for any decisions. The newsgroup is for information and discussion of the crafts involved in the production of jewelry. It is not a marketplace, and posting of ads by any individual or vendor, primary or third party, is not permitted except under the conditions described below. Occasional advertisements for used books, tools, and equipment, for one-time liquidations of shops or collections, or for rare, difficult to obtain materials and services, may be permitted. Such postings will be scrutinized carefully and screened to eliminate "spam" or untargeted "scatter" advertisement. If an advertisement is permitted, only one advert per individual, vendor or organisation may be posted to the group per month. The subject line must begin with '[ADVERT]' (excluding the quote marks). More information on advertising will be provided in a newsgroup FAQ document once the moderation of the group has been initiated. END CHARTER. MODERATOR INFO: rec.crafts.jewelry Moderator: peterwrowe@aol.com (Peter W. Rowe) Administrative contact address: peterwrowe@aol.com (Peter W. Rowe) Article submission address: peterwrowe@aol.com (Peter W. Rowe) END MODERATOR INFO. HOW TO VOTE: Follow these instructions *exactly*! Votes are counted by computer. You should send E-MAIL (posts to a newsgroup are invalid) to: voting@hut.fi Please do not assume that just replying to this message will work. Check the address before you mail your vote. Your mail message should contain one and only one of the following vote statements: I vote YES on rec.crafts.jewelry I vote NO on rec.crafts.jewelry Voter name: If your mail software does not indicate your real name (for example, AOL and Delphi do not), include _exactly_ the statement above on a _separate_ line and add your name after the colon. Having your name in your signature line is NOT enough! Do NOT join the lines together or remove the words "Voter name"! You may also vote ABSTAIN (which does exactly that) or CANCEL (which removes any earlier votes). ABSTAIN does not affect the final vote count in any way but is listed, whereas CANCEL is not. IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: Standard Guidelines for voting apply. One account per person and one vote per person. Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker. Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid. Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered to be anonymous votes. Vote counting is automated. Failure to follow these directions may mean that your vote does not get counted. If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker about the problem. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly. Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results post. The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup. Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose. Please do not distribute this CFV. If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups. Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud. When in doubt, ask the votetaker. -- Jani Patokallio Voting address: From jpatokal@alpha.hut.fi Thu Mar 6 09:23:03 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Jani Patokallio Reply-To: voting@hut.fi Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.crafts.beads,rec.crafts.carving,rec.crafts.jewelry,rec.crafts.metalworking Subject: 2nd CFV: moderate rec.crafts.jewelry Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <857663618.22169@isc.org> Supersedes: <856810139.888@isc.org> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Expires: 18 Mar 1997 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: rec.crafts.jewelry Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 15:53:38 GMT Lines: 134 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:157 LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) moderated group rec.crafts.jewelry (moderates existing group) Newsgroups line: rec.crafts.jewelry Jewelry making and gemology. (Moderated) Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 17 Mar 1997. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Direct questions about the proposed group to the proponent. Do not distribute this CFV or the information contained in it in any form without the votetaker's permission. Proponent: John Miller Votetaker: Jani Patokallio RATIONALE: rec.crafts.jewelry The existing newsgroup rec.crafts.jewelry was formed as an unmoderated newsgroup for the discussion of topics related to the crafts of jewelry making and gemcutting. For some time, this group enjoyed numerous lively on-topic conversations by an active core of enthusiasts. As USENET participation has grown rapidly over the past few months, this group has become inundated with many unwelcome off-topic posts and blatant advertisements of goods and services. The resulting lack of focus threatens the useful existence of this newsgroup, as many serious jewelry enthusiasts, including jewelers, gemologists, lapidaries, and collectors, have begun to abandon the group. It is proposed that rec.crafts.jewelry be converted into a moderated group for the purpose of eliminating off-topic posts and advertisements that violate standard USENET netiquette. CHARTER: rec.crafts.jewelry The newsgroup provides a place for discussion of questions and answers regarding the crafts of jewelry making and gemcutting. Tips, tricks and informational posting are welcomed as well. Mutual assistance and support are greatly encouraged. This is a moderated newsgroup, with no official ties or connection to any commercial vendor. 'Spamming' of commercial or other messages not related to the topic of the newsgroup rec.crafts.jewelry, and other violations of standard Usenet newsgroup netiquette, as expressed in the Usenet FAQs on the subject, are not permitted. Articles cross-posted to four or more newsgroups will not be permitted. Binary posts are not permitted in rec.crafts.jewelry under any circumstances. It is the moderator's responsibility to ensure that postings are free from verbal abuse and personal attacks. Article content will be the sole criterion of judgement. Authorship will not be a criterion for any decisions. The newsgroup is for information and discussion of the crafts involved in the production of jewelry. It is not a marketplace, and posting of ads by any individual or vendor, primary or third party, is not permitted except under the conditions described below. Occasional advertisements for used books, tools, and equipment, for one-time liquidations of shops or collections, or for rare, difficult to obtain materials and services, may be permitted. Such postings will be scrutinized carefully and screened to eliminate "spam" or untargeted "scatter" advertisement. If an advertisement is permitted, only one advert per individual, vendor or organisation may be posted to the group per month. The subject line must begin with '[ADVERT]' (excluding the quote marks). More information on advertising will be provided in a newsgroup FAQ document once the moderation of the group has been initiated. END CHARTER. MODERATOR INFO: rec.crafts.jewelry Moderator: peterwrowe@aol.com (Peter W. Rowe) Administrative contact address: peterwrowe@aol.com (Peter W. Rowe) Article submission address: peterwrowe@aol.com (Peter W. Rowe) END MODERATOR INFO. HOW TO VOTE: Follow these instructions *exactly*! Votes are counted by computer. You should send E-MAIL (posts to a newsgroup are invalid) to: voting@hut.fi Please do not assume that just replying to this message will work. Check the address before you mail your vote. Your mail message should contain one and only one of the following vote statements: I vote YES on moderating rec.crafts.jewelry I vote NO on moderating rec.crafts.jewelry Voter name: If your mail software does not indicate your real name (for example, AOL and Delphi do not), include _exactly_ the statement above on a _separate_ line and add your name after the colon. Having your name in your signature line is NOT enough! Do NOT join the lines together or remove the words "Voter name"! You may also vote ABSTAIN (which does exactly that) or CANCEL (which removes any earlier votes). ABSTAIN does not affect the final vote count in any way but is listed, whereas CANCEL is not. IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: Standard Guidelines for voting apply. One account per person and one vote per person. Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker. Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid. Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered to be anonymous votes. Vote counting is automated. Failure to follow these directions may mean that your vote does not get counted. If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker about the problem. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly. Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results post. The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup. Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose. Please do not distribute this CFV. If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups. Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud. When in doubt, ask the votetaker. -- Jani Patokallio Voting address: From jpatokal@alpha.hut.fi Tue Mar 18 08:30:16 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Jani Patokallio Reply-To: jpatokal@alpha.hut.fi Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.crafts.beads,rec.crafts.carving,rec.crafts.jewelry,rec.crafts.metalworking Subject: RESULT: moderate rec.crafts.jewelry passes 159:22 Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <858702514.16495@isc.org> Supersedes: <857663618.22169@isc.org> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Archive-Name: rec.crafts.jewelry Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 16:28:34 GMT Lines: 294 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:203 RESULT moderated group rec.crafts.jewelry (moderates existing group) passes 159:22 There were 159 YES votes and 22 NO votes, for a total of 181 valid votes. There were 3 invalid ballots. For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO) votes. There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted. If no serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter. Newsgroups line: rec.crafts.jewelry Jewelry making and gemology. (Moderated) The voting period closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 17 Mar 1997. This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Direct questions about the proposed group to the proponent. Do not distribute this CFV or the information contained in it in any form without the votetaker's permission. Proponent: John Miller Votetaker: Jani Patokallio RATIONALE: rec.crafts.jewelry The existing newsgroup rec.crafts.jewelry was formed as an unmoderated newsgroup for the discussion of topics related to the crafts of jewelry making and gemcutting. For some time, this group enjoyed numerous lively on-topic conversations by an active core of enthusiasts. As USENET participation has grown rapidly over the past few months, this group has become inundated with many unwelcome off-topic posts and blatant advertisements of goods and services. The resulting lack of focus threatens the useful existence of this newsgroup, as many serious jewelry enthusiasts, including jewelers, gemologists, lapidaries, and collectors, have begun to abandon the group. It is proposed that rec.crafts.jewelry be converted into a moderated group for the purpose of eliminating off-topic posts and advertisements that violate standard USENET netiquette. CHARTER: rec.crafts.jewelry The newsgroup provides a place for discussion of questions and answers regarding the crafts of jewelry making and gemcutting. Tips, tricks and informational posting are welcomed as well. Mutual assistance and support are greatly encouraged. This is a moderated newsgroup, with no official ties or connection to any commercial vendor. 'Spamming' of commercial or other messages not related to the topic of the newsgroup rec.crafts.jewelry, and other violations of standard Usenet newsgroup netiquette, as expressed in the Usenet FAQs on the subject, are not permitted. Articles cross-posted to four or more newsgroups will not be permitted. Binary posts are not permitted in rec.crafts.jewelry under any circumstances. It is the moderator's responsibility to ensure that postings are free from verbal abuse and personal attacks. Article content will be the sole criterion of judgement. Authorship will not be a criterion for any decisions. The newsgroup is for information and discussion of the crafts involved in the production of jewelry. It is not a marketplace, and posting of ads by any individual or vendor, primary or third party, is not permitted except under the conditions described below. Occasional advertisements for used books, tools, and equipment, for one-time liquidations of shops or collections, or for rare, difficult to obtain materials and services, may be permitted. Such postings will be scrutinized carefully and screened to eliminate "spam" or untargeted "scatter" advertisement. If an advertisement is permitted, only one advert per individual, vendor or organisation may be posted to the group per month. The subject line must begin with '[ADVERT]' (excluding the quote marks). More information on advertising will be provided in a newsgroup FAQ document once the moderation of the group has been initiated. END CHARTER. MODERATOR INFO: rec.crafts.jewelry Moderator: peterwrowe@aol.com (Peter W. Rowe) Administrative contact address: peterwrowe@aol.com (Peter W. Rowe) Article submission address: peterwrowe@aol.com (Peter W. Rowe) END MODERATOR INFO. rec.crafts.jewelry Final Vote Ack Voted Yes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ adam@ihug.co.nz Brian Adam afn03234@afn.org Ron Charlotte ahebert@istar.ca Anita Hebert alshinn@sirius.com Alan Shinn andyp@netcomuk.co.uk Andrew H. Parker aparker+@andrew.cmu.edu Andrew Parker ax784@freenet.carleton.ca Sansoucy Walker az266@lafn.org B. Thober Beadesignr@aol.com beadme@ibm.net Judy Anderson BEADSFOB@aol.com Edgar Coudal BEL019@concentric.net Elisa Lantz benitoite@marsweb.com Michael Gray bestbusphone@earthlink.net Ketarah Shaffer bgaskey@rtd.com Bob Gaskey blackrx@primenet.com Claire King bova@geckoplex.com Carol J. Bova brainnet@cadvision.com Charles Lewton-Brain breynold@nmt.edu Betty Reynolds Candyce05@aol.com Candy Glaze ccassady@vt.edu Cindy Cassady cgates@mail07.mitre.org Curt Gates charriso@s.psych.uiuc.edu Cathe Harrison chuckh@netheaven.com Chuck Holcomb cii@swl.msd.ray.com Cheryl Isaak {81712} cma@vipxlnet.com Jean Bienvenue creativ@infi.net James R.Waggener cromwell@nortel.ca David Cromwell cstone@ozemail.com.au cstone cyli@visi.com Nancy Anderson dan@cthulhu.control.com Dan L. Pierson daveknight@proaxis.com David Knight davidse@MICROSOFT.com Dave Sebaste davyjo@midcoast.com David Johanson dhaugen9@idt.net Doug Haugen DJCpoland@aol.com Donna J. Carty djt@mpia-hd.mpg.de David Thompson dkd2737@midtenn.net Donna Darden dmm@lemur.com David M. MacMillan drc@ccnet.com David R. Clayton dreamwvr@mo.net Barbara Otterson duckfoot@earthlink.net Lane Kimball Trubey dunstan@vineyard.net Richard D. Hamilton euthke@siam.muc.de Ekkehard Uthke evergold@lm.com Jeff Skerlec falk@netcom.com David Falk finc27@pop.uni-dortmund.de Thomas Adams flowers@CS.UCLA.EDU Margot Flowers foxon@europa.com Carla M. Fox foxon@europa.com Foxymom123@aol.com Ruth Shapiro frant@wpo.hass.usu.edu Frances B. Titchener gadget@skypoint.com Joni Whiting garrapat@ix.netcom.com Richard Faulkner Gary.Oblock@Eng.Sun.COM Gary Oblock GaryVG@aol.com Gary VanGelder ggyoung@voyager.co.nz GERALD YOUNG gigagraphica@earthlink.net Michelle Spalding Glenn_A._Warr@ccmail.bms.com Glenn A. Warr goldbaby@rmci.net Mike Rogers goodnowk@btv.ibm.com Ken Goodnow hale2@mindspring.com Hale Sweeny hansgraf@xnet.com Skip Meister HFUNG@CSUPomona.Edu Henry Fung hh299@cleveland.Freenet.Edu Jim Baranovich iagem@netins.net John A. Christensen JadeCove@aol.com Catherine Clayton jaed@best.com Jeanne A. E. DeVoto jamiefoster@fix.net Jamie Foster janmcc@cdsnet.net Jan McCellan jatich@mcs.com Alida M. Jatich jeverett@lisco.com Jeffrey Everett jfm@med.unc.edu John Miller jmalina@mail.hooked.net Jo Ann Malina joe@decoy.uoregon.edu Joe St Sauver johnb@ts.co.nz John Burgess johnpat@ix.netcom.com John Patrick jpc@drum.msfc.nasa.gov J. Porter Clark jsk591@merle.acns.nwu.edu Joshua Kreitzer katew@cicero.spc.uchicago.edu Katharine Weizel kclowes@bellsouth.net Keith Clowes kerry@bennie.demon.co.uk Kerry McCandlish khun@cd.chalmers.se Peter Wennerholm kimdv@netcom.com Kim DeVaughn kmckinla@ochin.on.ca Kenneth McKinlay kmunger@emory.edu Karen A Munger ktreat@wam.umd.edu Kathy Treat kurc@tgivan.com Kurc Buzdegan lafortne@math.Princeton.EDU Marc-Andre Lafortune lapilia@vipxln.com Alan Ross lcoulson@freenet.columbus.oh.us Lori Coulson leep@softarch.com Lee Prewitt leslie_thompson@MENTORG.COM Leslie Thompson @ dsd LindaP14@aol.com Linda Patrick LKEYES@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU Lanelle W. Keyes lmarshal@scruznet.com Lee Marshall Madlila@aol.com mattjm@worldnet.att.net John Mathieu MCG13@aol.com Michael C. Gerard med@allwest.net Michael Doogan MetalWerks@aol.com Michael Knott mhatz@raven.phs.com Mike Hatz mmsmith.kiva.net@ansel.intersource.com Marilyn Smith mraffert@fix.net Mary Rafferty mtopliff@nmt.edu Mike Topliff musiccom@io.uwinnipeg.ca Annette Easton mwmjewl@tiac.net Mark Morrell naddy@mips.pfalz.de Christian Weisgerber NchanteeBd@aol.com Terri M. Dubinski ncunning@freenet.columbus.oh.us Nikki Cunningham nhanson@nimbus.ocis.temple.edu Natalie Hanson nick@inferno.fc.hp.com Nick Ingegneri nnye@isd.net Neal Nye osan@netlabs.net Andy Vida-Szucs panthony@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us SB Anthony Patterner@aol.com Marilee J. Layman paul_jeran@hp.com Paul Jeran paxil@cancom.net Trevor Tymchuk PeterWRowe@aol.com Peter W. Rowe pjlent@rea-alp.com Patrick J. Lamusga pmindes@umich.edu Paula Mindes pmorrow@pacbell.net Paula Morrow R-Orion@postoffice.worldnet.att.net Richard O. Martin ralph.gibson@amd.com Ralph Gibson rboerger@austx.tandem.com Ron Boerger rex.jackson@mail.utexas.edu Julia Land richard@blackhole.dimensional.com Richard Foley richsong@vcn.bc.ca Richard Songhurst Ronald.Kiesling@ccmail.adp.wisc.edu Ronald Kiesling rsvendse@gold.iap.net.au Robert Svendsen rturner@ecg.com Richard Turner ruby@IntNet.net Eva M. Ananiewicz schenoweth@pipeline.com Susan M. Chenoweth setzer@horizon.hit.net Susan Houghton shap.wolf@asu.edu Shap Wolf shauna@argo.net.au Shaun Anthony silversq@ix.netcom.com Mark Johnson sramsdel@prairienet.org Steve Ramsdell ss17@prism.gatech.edu Sarah Shealy sscott@lightlink.com Irene Scott ssur@worldnet.att.net Sylvia Sur stamper@stamper.com Chris Stamper StephensDesign@opendoor.com Dave Stephens suppmicro@aol.com Dana Schlatter tcomber@scu.edu.au Tim Comber tgold@panix.com Anthony Gold thetrekguy@aol.com Bradford Brownw timbeck@ix.netcom.com Timothy Beck tindall@panix.com Bruce Tindall trail@ix.netcom.com Jeff Trestrail udell@top.monad.net udell@top.monad.net vlyons@Eng.Sun.COM Virginia Lyons vwbug@iadfw.net Bill Upton wampum@tiac.net Sandy Gates WeemsAway@aol.com Denise weems whyte@webspan.net David Whyte wilkins@falcon.cc.ukans.edu Allan Wilkinson zelenski@netcom.com Judy Zelenski zot@ampersand.com Mark Atwood zumachg@earthlink.net Gordon A. Zumach Voted No ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ afabbro@brokenarrow.us.itd.umich.edu Andrew Fabbro bgober@pacifier.com Brett Gober bonine@interaccess.com Steve Bonine booda@datasync.com Martin H. Booda boxcar@texas.net Terry Horton c28f62@world.std.com Mark Kramer cmaybur@BGNet.bgsu.edu Chris Maybury fuller@fast.net John Fuller gpr96002@uconnvm.uconn.edu G.P. Ryan jai@mantra.com Dr. Jai Maharaj jeb27@cam.ac.uk James Broughton lritter@hdvs.com Linda Ritter LynelleV@aol.com Lynelle Van Horn mark@LICCINI.com Mark Liccini marquez@pacbell.net Aaron Marquez patl@lcs.mit.edu Patrick J. LoPresti PEACOCKJP@aol.com ramana@ecf.toronto.edu gopal g rick@bcm.tmc.edu Richard H. Miller stainles@bga.com Dwight Brown stanley@oce.orst.edu John Stanley tlawson@amug.org Todd C. Lawson Votes in error ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ drewid@lanminds.com Andrew Werby ! No vote statement in message q9622647@helios.usq.edu.au Rachel S Fuller ! No vote statement in message stuart@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz stuart yeates ! Conflicting votes -- Jani Patokallio Voting address: