From gei@head-cfa.harvard.edu Wed Mar 13 19:30:19 1996 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: gei@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Dr. Guenther Eichhorn) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.aviation.misc,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.soaring,rec.aviation.student Subject: RFD: rec.aviation.aerobatics Followup-To: news.groups Date: 14 Mar 1996 00:30:39 -0000 Organization: . Lines: 100 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Approved: newgroups-request@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <826763436.25469@uunet.uu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: rec.aviation.aerobatics Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:8380 news.groups:193851 rec.aviation.misc:45529 rec.aviation.piloting:29571 rec.aviation.homebuilt:28565 rec.aviation.soaring:18396 rec.aviation.student:20448 REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) unmoderated group rec.aviation.aerobatics Newsgroups line: rec.aviation.aerobatics Discussions about aerobatics flying. This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a world-wide unmoderated Usenet newsgroup rec.aviation.aerobatics This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details are below. RATIONALE: rec.aviation.aerobatics Throughout the rec.aviation hierarchy there have been numerous threads concerning aerobatics maneuvers, often with cross-postings to several rec.aviation groups in an attempt to find the intended audience. Discussions about the pro's and con's of spin training for instance have shown that there is a considerable interest in this subject among participants in the rec.aviation groups. These discussions are important, both for regular flying (e.g. stall/spin training), as well as for sport aerobatics flying (e.g. how do I fly a hammerhead), but they often were not directly relevant to the group(s) in which they were posted. This new group will provide a forum to discuss flying unusual attitudes. It should be used both for discussions about issues that concern unusual attitudes during regular flying as well as for posts about intentional aerobatics. This would include for instance the quite frequent spin discussions. It should also be used to discuss issues concerning aerobatics competition or airshows. It will also provide a way of distributing information about aerobatics contests and airshows world-wide. This should include distribution of event schedules and contest results. Another topic that has been discussed in several newsgroups is the question of whether certain airplanes can safely perform different aerobatics maneuvers. This can be an important safety issue for renting and buying airplanes. Again these discussions have been distributed over several newsgroups. They are important enough to deserve a dedicated newsgroup. Hopefully one important aspect of this group in general will be the discussion of safety aspects of flying unusual attitudes. For instance there were several discussions about recovery techniques from unusual attitudes recently. Such discussions can be extremely important during emergencies. Hopefully this new newsgroup will provide a more focused forum for such safety related discussions. A FAQ for aerobatics is available at: and will be expanded if the new newsgroup is established. CHARTER: rec.aviation.aerobatics rec.aviation.aerobatics is an unmoderated USENET newsgroup dedicated to discussions about flying in unusual attitudes. Posts to this newsgroup should be about any flying that is outside the range of the standards of the Private Pilots License. This includes competition aerobatics and air-show flying as well as handling unintentional unusual attitudes during emergencies. Particular emphasis should be placed on discussing the safety aspects of such maneuvers. Other topics are discussions about the capabilities of different airplanes for aerobatics maneuvers and their inherent limitations. It should include schedules of airshows and competitions, and their results. END CHARTER. PROCEDURE: This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups should raised and resolved. The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from from when the first RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups). All discussion should be posted to news.groups. At the end of the discussion period, a Call for Votes (CFV) will be posted by a neutral vote taker. This RFD attempts to fully comply with Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "Writing an RFD". Please refer to these documents if you have questions about the process. DISTRIBUTION: This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, rec.aviation.announce, rec.aviation.homebuilt, rec.aviation.misc, rec.aviation.piloting, rec.aviation.questions, rec.aviation.soaring, rec.aviation.student, rec.aviation Proponent: Guenther Eichhorn -- ----------------------------------------------------- Guenther Eichhorn gei@cfa.harvard.edu see also" http://acro.harvard.edu/IAC/iac_homepg.html From jpatokal@alpha.hut.fi Thu Apr 18 14:23:48 1996 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Jani Patokallio Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.misc,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.soaring,rec.aviation.student Subject: CFV: rec.aviation.aerobatics Followup-To: poster Date: 18 Apr 1996 18:23:43 -0000 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 124 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Approved: newgroups-request@uunet.uu.net Expires: 10 May 1996 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <829851820.16856@uunet.uu.net> Reply-To: voting@hut.fi NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: rec.aviation.aerobatics Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:8584 news.groups:202071 rec.aviation.homebuilt:30789 rec.aviation.misc:47680 rec.aviation.piloting:31527 rec.aviation.soaring:19250 rec.aviation.student:21846 FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) unmoderated group rec.aviation.aerobatics Newsgroups line: rec.aviation.aerobatics Aerobatics and unusual attitude flying. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 9 May 1996. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Guenther Eichhorn Votetaker: Jani Patokallio RATIONALE: rec.aviation.aerobatics Throughout the rec.aviation hierarchy there have been numerous threads concerning aerobatics maneuvers, often with cross-postings to several rec.aviation groups in an attempt to find the intended audience. Discussions about the pro's and con's of spin training for instance have shown that there is a considerable interest in this subject among participants in the rec.aviation groups. These discussions are important, both for regular flying (e.g. stall/spin training), as well as for sport aerobatics flying (e.g. how do I fly a hammerhead), but they often were not directly relevant to the group(s) in which they were posted. This new group will provide a forum to discuss flying unusual attitudes. It should be used both for discussions about issues that concern unusual attitudes during regular flying as well as for posts about intentional aerobatics. This would include for instance the quite frequent spin discussions. It should also be used to discuss issues concerning aerobatics competition or airshows. It will also provide a way of distributing information about aerobatics contests and airshows world-wide. This should include distribution of event schedules and contest results. Another topic that has been discussed in several newsgroups is the question of whether certain airplanes can safely perform different aerobatics maneuvers. This can be an important safety issue for renting and buying airplanes. Again these discussions have been distributed over several newsgroups. They are important enough to deserve a dedicated newsgroup. Hopefully one important aspect of this group in general will be the discussion of safety aspects of flying unusual attitudes. For instance there were several discussions about recovery techniques from unusual attitudes recently. Such discussions can be extremely important during emergencies. Hopefully this new newsgroup will provide a more focused forum for such safety related discussions. A FAQ for aerobatics is available at: and will be expanded if the new newsgroup is established. CHARTER: rec.aviation.aerobatics Rec.aviation.aerobatics is an unmoderated USENET newsgroup dedicated to discussions about flying in unusual attitudes. Posts to this newsgroup should be about any flying that is outside the range of the standards of the Private Pilots License. This includes competition aerobatics and air-show flying as well as handling unintentional unusual attitudes during emergencies. Particular emphasis should be placed on discussing the safety aspects of such maneuvers. Other topics are discussions about the capabilities of different airplanes for aerobatics maneuvers and their inherent limitations. It should include schedules of airshows and competitions, and their results. END CHARTER. HOW TO VOTE: You should send E-MAIL (posts to a newsgroup are invalid) to: voting@hut.fi Please do not assume that just replying to this message will work. Check the address before you mail your vote. Your mail message should contain one and only one of the following vote statements: I vote YES on rec.aviation.aerobatics I vote NO on rec.aviation.aerobatics If your mail software does not indicate your real name (for example, AOL does not), please also include the following statement and add your name on the _same_ line. Include it exactly as written here. Voter name: You may also vote ABSTAIN or CANCEL but these are not counted as valid votes for the total count. IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: Standard Guidelines for voting apply. One person, one vote. Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker. Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid. Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered to be anonymous votes. Vote counting is automated. Failure to follow these directions may mean that your vote does not get counted. If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker about the problem. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly. Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results post. The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup. Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose. Please do not distribute this CFV. If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups. Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud. When in doubt, ask the votetaker. DISTRIBUTION: This CFV will also sent to the following mailing list: IAC List -- Jani Patokallio Voting address: From jpatokal@alpha.hut.fi Sun Apr 28 13:48:04 1996 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Jani Patokallio Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.misc,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.soaring,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.announce Subject: 2nd CFV: rec.aviation.aerobatics Supersedes: <829851820.16856@uunet.uu.net> Followup-To: poster Date: 28 Apr 1996 17:47:59 -0000 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 124 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Approved: newgroups-request@uunet.uu.net Expires: 10 May 1996 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <830713677.8820@uunet.uu.net> Reply-To: voting@hut.fi NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: rec.aviation.aerobatics Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:8605 news.groups:204486 rec.aviation.homebuilt:31500 rec.aviation.misc:48277 rec.aviation.piloting:32087 rec.aviation.soaring:19525 rec.aviation.student:22342 rec.aviation.announce:253 LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) unmoderated group rec.aviation.aerobatics Newsgroups line: rec.aviation.aerobatics Aerobatics and unusual attitude flying. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 9 May 1996. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Guenther Eichhorn Votetaker: Jani Patokallio RATIONALE: rec.aviation.aerobatics Throughout the rec.aviation hierarchy there have been numerous threads concerning aerobatics maneuvers, often with cross-postings to several rec.aviation groups in an attempt to find the intended audience. Discussions about the pro's and con's of spin training for instance have shown that there is a considerable interest in this subject among participants in the rec.aviation groups. These discussions are important, both for regular flying (e.g. stall/spin training), as well as for sport aerobatics flying (e.g. how do I fly a hammerhead), but they often were not directly relevant to the group(s) in which they were posted. This new group will provide a forum to discuss flying unusual attitudes. It should be used both for discussions about issues that concern unusual attitudes during regular flying as well as for posts about intentional aerobatics. This would include for instance the quite frequent spin discussions. It should also be used to discuss issues concerning aerobatics competition or airshows. It will also provide a way of distributing information about aerobatics contests and airshows world-wide. This should include distribution of event schedules and contest results. Another topic that has been discussed in several newsgroups is the question of whether certain airplanes can safely perform different aerobatics maneuvers. This can be an important safety issue for renting and buying airplanes. Again these discussions have been distributed over several newsgroups. They are important enough to deserve a dedicated newsgroup. Hopefully one important aspect of this group in general will be the discussion of safety aspects of flying unusual attitudes. For instance there were several discussions about recovery techniques from unusual attitudes recently. Such discussions can be extremely important during emergencies. Hopefully this new newsgroup will provide a more focused forum for such safety related discussions. A FAQ for aerobatics is available at: and will be expanded if the new newsgroup is established. CHARTER: rec.aviation.aerobatics Rec.aviation.aerobatics is an unmoderated USENET newsgroup dedicated to discussions about flying in unusual attitudes. Posts to this newsgroup should be about any flying that is outside the range of the standards of the Private Pilots License. This includes competition aerobatics and air-show flying as well as handling unintentional unusual attitudes during emergencies. Particular emphasis should be placed on discussing the safety aspects of such maneuvers. Other topics are discussions about the capabilities of different airplanes for aerobatics maneuvers and their inherent limitations. It should include schedules of airshows and competitions, and their results. END CHARTER. HOW TO VOTE: You should send E-MAIL (posts to a newsgroup are invalid) to: voting@hut.fi Please do not assume that just replying to this message will work. Check the address before you mail your vote. Your mail message should contain one and only one of the following vote statements: I vote YES on rec.aviation.aerobatics I vote NO on rec.aviation.aerobatics If your mail software does not indicate your real name (for example, AOL does not), please also include the following statement and add your name immediately after the colon. Include it exactly as written here. Voter name: You may also vote ABSTAIN or CANCEL but these are not counted as valid votes for the total count. IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: Standard Guidelines for voting apply. One person, one vote. Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker. Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid. Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered to be anonymous votes. Vote counting is automated. Failure to follow these directions may mean that your vote does not get counted. If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker about the problem. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly. Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results post. The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup. Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose. Please do not distribute this CFV. If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups. Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud. When in doubt, ask the votetaker. DISTRIBUTION: This CFV will also sent to the following mailing list: International Aerobatics Club -- Jani Patokallio Voting address: From jpatokal@alpha.hut.fi Fri May 10 10:43:45 1996 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Jani Patokallio Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.misc,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.soaring,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.announce Subject: RESULT: rec.aviation.aerobatics passes 316:22 Supersedes: <830713677.8820@uunet.uu.net> Followup-To: news.groups Date: 10 May 1996 10:43:46 -0400 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 454 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Approved: newgroups-request@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <831739378.5806@uunet.uu.net> Reply-To: voting@hut.fi NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: rec.aviation.aerobatics Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:8648 news.groups:205974 rec.aviation.homebuilt:32352 rec.aviation.misc:48866 rec.aviation.piloting:32738 rec.aviation.soaring:19910 rec.aviation.student:22864 rec.aviation.announce:256 RESULT unmoderated group rec.aviation.aerobatics passes 316:22 There were 316 YES votes and 22 NO votes, for a total of 338 valid votes. There was 1 abstain and 4 invalid ballots. For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO) votes. There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted. If no serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter. Newsgroups line: rec.aviation.aerobatics Aerobatics and unusual attitude flying. The voting period closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 9 May 1996. This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Guenther Eichhorn Votetaker: Jani Patokallio RATIONALE: rec.aviation.aerobatics Throughout the rec.aviation hierarchy there have been numerous threads concerning aerobatics maneuvers, often with cross-postings to several rec.aviation groups in an attempt to find the intended audience. Discussions about the pro's and con's of spin training for instance have shown that there is a considerable interest in this subject among participants in the rec.aviation groups. These discussions are important, both for regular flying (e.g. stall/spin training), as well as for sport aerobatics flying (e.g. how do I fly a hammerhead), but they often were not directly relevant to the group(s) in which they were posted. This new group will provide a forum to discuss flying unusual attitudes. It should be used both for discussions about issues that concern unusual attitudes during regular flying as well as for posts about intentional aerobatics. This would include for instance the quite frequent spin discussions. It should also be used to discuss issues concerning aerobatics competition or airshows. It will also provide a way of distributing information about aerobatics contests and airshows world-wide. This should include distribution of event schedules and contest results. Another topic that has been discussed in several newsgroups is the question of whether certain airplanes can safely perform different aerobatics maneuvers. This can be an important safety issue for renting and buying airplanes. Again these discussions have been distributed over several newsgroups. They are important enough to deserve a dedicated newsgroup. Hopefully one important aspect of this group in general will be the discussion of safety aspects of flying unusual attitudes. For instance there were several discussions about recovery techniques from unusual attitudes recently. Such discussions can be extremely important during emergencies. Hopefully this new newsgroup will provide a more focused forum for such safety related discussions. A FAQ for aerobatics is available at: and will be expanded if the new newsgroup is established. CHARTER: rec.aviation.aerobatics Rec.aviation.aerobatics is an unmoderated USENET newsgroup dedicated to discussions about flying in unusual attitudes. Posts to this newsgroup should be about any flying that is outside the range of the standards of the Private Pilots License. This includes competition aerobatics and air-show flying as well as handling unintentional unusual attitudes during emergencies. Particular emphasis should be placed on discussing the safety aspects of such maneuvers. Other topics are discussions about the capabilities of different airplanes for aerobatics maneuvers and their inherent limitations. It should include schedules of airshows and competitions, and their results. END CHARTER. DISTRIBUTION: This RESULT will also sent to the following mailing list: International Aerobatics Club VOTETAKER'S NOTE: By accident, over a dozen 'vote received and counted' acknowledgements were sent to people whose votes arrived too late. Votes that arrived after the deadline were not counted in the final tally and are not listed here. rec.aviation.aerobatics Final Vote Ack Voted Yes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 00nzwilliams@bsuvc.bsu.edu Nyal Z. Williams 101361.1434@CompuServe.COM Stefan Kwiecien 103134.246@CompuServe.COM Fred Abramson 103137.1556@CompuServe.COM Stephen Billester 103360.2620@CompuServe.COM Max Verastegui 1perdue@mail.gld.com Scott Perdue 70634.372@CompuServe.COM Patrick Clyne 71052.3250@CompuServe.COM Frank P. Matrone 74730.170@CompuServe.COM Jerry Davey 75502.1757@CompuServe.COM Greg Ryan ab934@ccn.cs.dal.ca David L. Potter abnt@ionet.net dick smart acrohead@ix.netcom.com Rick Manzie acrohead@nwpros.com Leslie Eversole aerobat@friend.ly.net George Rousseau aeroland@micronet.fr Dominique Roland akosht@ix.netcom.com Aaron Kosht Akromatt@aol.com Matt Wilderman alan@mattress.atww.org Alan Reichert AlanLevin@aol.com Alan Levin alenz@communique.net Tommy Lenz allnight@everett.net Johnny amb@bronze.lcs.mit.edu andrew michael boardman AMSnaproll@aol.com Ashley Messenger ANDERDW@aol.com Dave Anderson aneale@csfpny.fbc.com Andrew Neale aragon@c2.org Cecilia Aragon artful@ix.netcom.com Michael C. Jones aschwassmann@art-line.de Alex Schwassmann BABCCK@corp.timeplex.com Babcock_Bruce bdolan@netzone.com Brian C. Dolan bdq@sprynet.com Bryan Quickmire bhoward@emtec.org Brian K. Howard bi@inside.net Balthasar T. Indermuehle billn@alphapower.com Bill Nihan birchall@email.njin.net Shag bk513@freenet.carleton.ca Robert J. Paxton bmorth@bmi.net Scott Hutson bobleve@ns.iconn.net bobleve bparham@ISI.EDU Bruce Parham Brandtetal@gnn.com Rae Brandt brants@nlr.nl J.J. Brants brian.boyle@neptune.Central.Sun.COM B. J. Boyle Sun Dallas SR brichard@accesscomm.net Beth Richard bshaw@hepar.unmc.edu Bud Shaw BSNorris@aol.com Brian Norris bwalker@midtenn.net Bill Walker caufield@sequent.com James Caufield CGBloom@aol.com Cheryl Bloom chadair@mcn.net Chad Moore charles_mueller@macgate.csuchico.edu Charles Mueller charlie_ryan@qm.liris.loral.COM Charlie Ryan CheckPilot@aol.com James M. Hann chip@acm.org Chip Davis christer.h.bergstrom@karlskoga.mail.telia.com Christer H Bergstrom clarkaw@syix.com Art Clark clesinski@tne.com clri@logica.se Claes Rich=E1rd = cls48@columbia.edu Christopher Lodge Stamper clyde@hitech.com.au Clyde Smith-Stubbs cmk@pacificnet.net Christopher M. Kelley collier@AUSTIN.IBM.COM John Collier cpinson@KAIntl.com Charles Pinson cpo6n95@bangor.ca.boeing.com Chris P. Osborne cporter@primenet.com Charlie Porter cranor@mosquitonet.com Clayton L. Cranor crn@netix.telecall.co.uk C.Newport cswol@abacus.bates.edu Charlotte Swol cwest@servtech.com Craig Westbrook dalelama@shadow.net Dale Evans dana@nav.cc.tx.us Dana Brewer DAOTERO@aol.com daveball@super.zippo.com David Ball davec@apple.com Dave Carlton davem@airstrip.demon.co.uk davidwu@progarts.com David Whitehorn-Umphres davism@aa.wl.com Duff Davis dbradfield@dhvx20.csudh.edu Dave Bradfield ddj00@eng.amdahl.com Deane D. Judd DeafDude@aol.com Paul Bergeron deene@ibmoto.com Deene Ogden deginton@pipeline.com W.A. Eginton dela@seas.rochester.edu Del Armstrong dereks@hpfcla.fc.hp.com Derek Sherlock derossi@genmagic.com Chris Derossi dfay@loreto.seaspace.com dierks@austin.ibm.com Herman Dierks dln@oak.zilker.net Dick Norton donkiely@barrow.com Don Kiely donsim@infoserve.net Don Simmons dougc@cerf.net Douglas Cronkhite DougR@netins.net Doug Rozendaal drbell@ais.net David R. Bell drf@ios.softwright.co.uk Dave Farley drl@sware.com David Lyjak DSowder@aol.com Douglas A. Sowder dsparks@pobox.com Dave Sparks dstacey@kwanza.com David C. Stacey Dukeav8r@aol.com Tom Dukerich dyugo@hooked.net Dennis N. Yugo Eaglell@aol.com Norm DeWitt EGrossheim@aol.com Ed Grossheim ejnoomen@xs4all.nl Eric-Jan Noomen elmore@ev.nssl.uoknor.edu Kim Elmore emmons@fibi01.fnal.gov Monty eric.t.olbricht@TEK.COM Eric Olbricht erikavg@ix.netcom.com Erik Shilling ermer@cldx.com Rick Ermer evrwrite@powergrid.electriciti.com Ed Redondo Fly2Win@aol.com Jeffrey D. Johnson francois_moens@hrcc.on.ca Francois Moens Frank.Hanish@flight.org Frank J. Hanish frankv@pec.co.nz Frank van der Hulst freddy.stenbom@hobby.se Freddy Stenbom FTRC@massey.ac.nz Lisa Millard FultonK@aol.com Kirk Fulton gbracey@bgu.edu Georgia Bracey gei@head-cfa.harvard.edu Guenther Eichhorn geoff@ppp-cat.engr.sgi.com Geoff Peck gero@gkminix.han.de Gero Kuhlmann ggriesel@primenet.com Gene Griesel glaum@qdeck.com glepore@direct.ca Guido Lepore gnelson@execpc.com Gary Nelson gpenn@pavilion.co.uk Geoff Penn GREG_DINNING@HP-Chelmsford-om1.om.hp.com Greg Dinning Gypsy444@aol.com Patty Wagstaff hanky@sprynet.com Hank Eyring hardin@utrc.utc.com Dr. Larry W. Hardin hartmann@sound.net Mike Hartmann hbok@ici.net Hans Bok hedley@3do.com Hedley Davis Helmut.Stoecklin@munich.netsurf.de Helmut Stoecklin henderso@cs.und.nodak.edu Brian H. Henderson hendrix@sparc.ncpa.olemiss.edu Jim Hendrix HGUW84A@prodigy.com Eugene Michael Finan hqb@netcom.com Henry Bibb huffaker@utw.com Brian Huffaker IanGPM@aol.com Ian Martin iloop@onramp.net Geryl Mortensen inet@intellisys.net brian whatcott Jayne_Schiek@ccmail.wiu.edu Jayne Schiek JBonaccijr@aol.com Joe Bonacci jbrowne@gv.net Juan Browne jcarson@corp.tivoli.com Jim Carson jd2avzeller@proaxis.com Jim Zeller Jeffrey_Oslick@brown.edu Jeff Oslick jefzick@interaccess.com Jeffrey F. Zych jf_avon@citenet.net Jean-Francois Avon jggoslin@Oakland.edu Monument jhwelsch@prolog.net Jack Welsch jimw@orbital.mv.com Jim Ward JJM0068@gwgate.mcdata.com John Miller jkerns1@ford.com James Kerns jmc@iol.it Jean-Marie Clement jnorris@tznet.com Joe Norris john.freas@svis.org John Freas John.Prickett@amd.com John.Prickett@amd.com john@siu.edu John R. Johnson JOHNNYBLUM@aol.com jonesdl@csoc.dnet.dupont.com DARWIN JONES jono@acba.demon.co.uk Jonathan Baldock jott@siue.edu Jonathan Ott jpotter@mednet.med.miami.edu Jim Potter JRSEA4@aol.com Johnny Cargill jsm11@cornell.edu Jared Malarsky JSMOLEN@bcm.tmc.edu Smolen, James E. jtuszka@fsmail.uwsp.edu Jim Tuszka jurlhurl@jaxnet.com Gerald Steverson Jr. kanig@swcp.com Steven P. Kanig karim@kasa.tng.oche.de Karim Samir Kathron@aol.com Kathy Straub kathy@cs.itc.hp.com Kathy Lankford kchart@premier1.premier.net Kenneth Hart kd0r@norfolk.infi.net David Heinsohn KEITH_E_DOYNE@nslc.fmso.navy.mil KEITH E DOYNE KEN_CALLANDER@HP5000.desk.hp.com Ken Callander kevin@checksix Kevin Baranski-Walker kim@shell.portal.com Kim DeVaughn KingD@direct.ca David W.S. King kirichen@eng.umd.edu Vladislav Kirichenko KKDiamond@aol.com kleing@qualcomm.com Klein Gilhousen klick@aps.anl.gov Jim Klick kmohan@cisco.com Krish Mohan koot@sara.nl J.J.A. Koot kwa123@mnsinc.com Kirk Wicker landair@shore.intercom.net Gary Bullard landrew@uscyber.com Louie Andrew lee.mckerracher@mail.orix.com.au Lee McKerracher Lew_E_Adams@ccm.ch.intel.com Lew E Adams LHAMER@aol.com Linda Hamer lmcgee@habeas.corp.sgi.com Lee McGee lsalvadori@batman.laben.it Luca Salvadori MAHarmon@aol.com Martha Harmon marchal@cnj.digex.net Yannick Marchal Marc_Majka@next.com Marc Majka marksant@onit.net Mark S. 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Myers travism@utdallas.edu Travis McWaters trog@pathcom.com piranha trucks@fsl.noaa.gov trent trucks ultimate@spindle.net Daryle L. Grounds, CPA vadla@aol.com Arun Vadlamani val@kodak.com Valentine Christian vbjelic@rave.opennet.org Vladislav Bjelic vivier@ensic.u-nancy.fr Herve VIVIER VJD4909@Jetson.UH.EDU Vickie Davis waltp@voyager.net Walt Plentis weaver@voyager.net Allison Weaver wfrench@freenet.npiec.on.ca William French wjh@winternet.com Wendy Havir wmercier@shelby.net Wayne R. Mercier WoodtickIV@aol.com Josh Pruzek wrollins@NMSU.Edu William H. Rollins Wwplummer@aol.com William W. Plummer Voted No ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ archer@hsc.fr Vincent Archer booda@datasync.com Martin H. Booda csaamw@urc.tue.nl Michiel Wijers hgoldste@bbs.mpcs.com Howard Goldstein jay@usa1.com Jay Hennessey kevin.hooker@argonet.co.uk K Hooker khan@cs.nyu.edu Hasnain Khan lancec@dream.wireless.ucsc.edu Lance K. Chun mb@agar.oche.de Marcus Breiing mckellar@zeta.org.au Peter McKellar ml3e+@andrew.cmu.edu Michael Loomis olav@viking.mv.com Olav Nieuwejaar patl@catfish.lcs.mit.edu Patrick J. LoPresti rick@bcm.tmc.edu Richard H. Miller ryang@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu Glen Patrick Ryan sledge@hammer.oche.de Thomas Bueschgens smarry@turing.toronto.edu Smarasderagd stainles@bga.com Dwight Brown tlawson@email.univpubs.american.edu Todd C. Lawson wakelyn@pinn.net Tom Wakelyn widenius@cc.helsinki.fi Risto Widenius wrg@infogo.com W.R. Giacona Abstained ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ mmt@RedBrick.COM Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS Votes in error ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ianj@tattoo.ed.ac.uk ! No vote statement in message justkk@aol.com JustKK ! No vote statement in message MLWilhelmi@aol.com ! No vote statement in message slivings@wb.xerox.com ! Conflicting votes