From katew@cicero.spc.uchicago.edu Wed Jan 8 18:18:41 1997 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: katew@cicero.spc.uchicago.edu (Katharine Weizel) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.arts.comics.info,rec.arts.comics.misc,rec.arts.books.reviews,rec.arts.sf.reviews Subject: RFD: rec.arts.comics.reviews moderated Followup-To: news.groups Date: 8 Jan 1997 23:18:36 -0000 Organization: . Lines: 159 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Approved: newgroups-request@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <852765515.16655@uunet.uu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: rec.arts.comics.reviews Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:9489 news.groups:246062 rec.arts.comics.info:6238 rec.arts.comics.misc:229195 rec.arts.books.reviews:2532 rec.arts.sf.reviews:1339 REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) moderated group rec.arts.comics.reviews This is an official Request For Discussion (RFD) for the formation of a proposed new worldwide moderated newsgroup, rec.arts.comics.reviews. This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details are below. Newsgroup line: rec.arts.comics.reviews Reviews of comics. (Moderated) RATIONALE: rec.arts.comics.reviews As more and more readers within the rec.arts.comics.* newsgroups try their hand at reviewing, the volume of reviews traffic has increased to a point where three-fourths of the moderated rec.arts.comics.info newsgroup is comprised of reviews, and only one-fourth or less of the traffic contains FAQ postings, news bulletins, or announcements. While not prohibited by the current rec.arts.comics.info charter, the amount of review traffic makes it hard to find the informative posts. In a recent one-week sample of traffic, 76 of 97 posts were review posts, either original or crossposted to other groups. This is a much higher amount of traffic than was seen in the groups rec.music.reviews (7 articles), rec.arts.books.reviews (5 articles), or rec.arts.sf.reviews (9 articles). This is comparable to the group rec.arts.movies.reviews, which had 60 articles. The level of traffic is therefore reasonable for such a moderated group. Rec.arts.comics.reviews would therefore be a forum for the reviewing of comic books, strips, and related publications; allowing those who wish to review a place to do so, and lessening the volume on the rec.arts.comics.info newsgroup. Moderation of the group would ensure that only the reviews would be present, along with occasional announcements from the moderator. It would ensure that followup posts only go to discussion groups, and would keep sales posts, ads, spam, binaries, and the like from flooding the group. The use of a robomoderation script would assure that reviews are posted in a timely manner, without needing full hand-moderation by the moderator. The use of a REVIEW keyword in the Subject: header would allow those who are unable to edit Approved or Keyword headers to still post with a minimum of difficulty, as well as allowing readers in the followup newsgroups to easily kill the discussion. CHARTER: rec.arts.comics.reviews The purpose of this newsgroup is to review comic books, comic strips, political cartoon compilations, comic-review publications, and the like. It is not meant as a discussion forum, nor as a place to advertise comics and related publications. This newsgroup will be moderated by a moderation bot, with light hand-moderation in some cases. The script will check the Subject, Newsgroups, and Followup-to: lines. If a post is rejected, the script will return it with a copy of the moderation policy and the charter information; if a post is hand-moderated, the same policy will apply. The moderator has the right to cancel any posts with forged approval lines. The following rules will apply: - Advertisements, large binaries, SPAM, general announcements, and discussion and followup posts are not permitted in this group. They will be rejected. If a post begins with "Re: " then it is treated as a followup and will be returned. - Hierarchy-wide pre-approved FAQ posts, such as the rec.arts.comics general FAQ, will be posted if approved by the .info group. Other FAQ posts (such as the charter of the group, or a guide to review style) will be approved at moderator's discretion, with followups set to poster. - Posts to the group must begin with a Subject keyword such as [REVIEW] or REVIEW:, which will be chosen by the moderator. If a post arrives without a keyword, it will be hand-moderated. Those posts which are truly reviews may be sent back to the poster with a copy of the charter, asking that the keyword be added and the review resubmitted. - Posts to the group may be crossposted to other discussion groups in the rec.arts.comics.* hierarchy. Posts crossposted to groups outside the hierarchy, but containing the keyword, will be hand- moderated to ensure topicality. Posts crossposted to the other moderated rec.arts.comics.* newsgroups will be passed along to the moderators of the remaining groups. Posts crossposted to other moderated .reviews groups will be forwarded to the moderators of those groups for approval. Any not meeting charter requirements will be returned. - Followups should be set to three or less newsgroups within the rec.arts.comics.* hierarchy, not including the .reviews newsgroup or the other moderated rec.arts.comics.* newsgroups. Posts not meeting this requirement will be hand-moderated to ensure topicality. - It is preferred that the Subject line be of the form: <any other information the author includes> This will allow sorting by TITLE while keeping the keyword present in the subject for easy robomoderation. END CHARTER. MODERATOR INFO: rec.arts.comics.reviews Moderator: Jeremy Billones <billones@primenet.com> Jeremy Billones is the upcoming moderator of rec.arts.comics.info, a newsgroup which holds much, but not all, of the current review traffic within the rec.arts.comics.hierarchy. Having Mr. Billones as the moderator of the proposed rec.arts.comics.reviews newsgroup would ensure that the move of review posts from the .info group to the new .reviews group would be done with ease, and would make the approval of FAQs in the .reviews group equally easy. Mr. Billones has also served as a member of the Usenet Volunteer Votetakers on several votes. END MODERATOR INFO. PROCEDURE: This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups should be raised and resolved. The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups). This RFD will be posted again should there be any alterations done to it. If there is a desire to create rec.arts.comics.fandom after the discussion period, after which a Call For Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote taker. Please do not attempt to vote until this happens. All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups. This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal". Please refer to these documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any questions about the process. DISTRIBUTION: This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups: news.groups, news.announce.newgroups, rec.arts.comics.info, rec.arts.comics.misc Proponent: Kate Weizel <katew@cicero.spc.uchicago.edu> Mentors: RAC-RFD Committee <rac-rfd@idyllmtn.com> -- Kate the Short -<katew@cicero.spc.uchicago.edu>- at the U of Chicago RAC-FAQ http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/keweizel/ RAC-RFD Are you a NEW READER of the X-Men or rec.arts.comics.marvel.xbooks?? FAQs are at: http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/keweizel/faq.html From katew@cicero.spc.uchicago.edu Mon Feb 3 20:51:57 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: katew@cicero.spc.uchicago.edu (Katharine Weizel) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.arts.comics.info,rec.arts.comics.misc Subject: 2nd RFD: rec.arts.comics.reviews moderated Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <855009477.12225@isc.org> Organization: . Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Archive-Name: rec.arts.comics.reviews Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 22:37:59 GMT Lines: 178 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:12 REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) moderated group rec.arts.comics.reviews This is an official Request For Discussion (RFD) for the formation of a proposed new worldwide moderated newsgroup, rec.arts.comics.reviews. This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details are below. CHANGES from previous RFD: Added range of possible keywords to the moderation section, and made them suggested instead of mandatory. Added an allowance for new keywords at the moderator's discretion. Added examples of Subject-line formatting. Updated moderator information. Corrected typo regarding which newsgroups RFD was distributed to. Corrected typo in the procedure section. Newsgroup line: rec.arts.comics.reviews Reviews of comics. (Moderated) RATIONALE: rec.arts.comics.reviews As more and more readers within the rec.arts.comics.* newsgroups try their hand at reviewing, the volume of reviews traffic has increased to a point where three-fourths of the moderated rec.arts.comics.info newsgroup is comprised of reviews, and only one-fourth or less of the traffic contains FAQ postings, news bulletins, or announcements. While not prohibited by the current rec.arts.comics.info charter, the amount of review traffic makes it hard to find the informative posts. In a recent one-week sample of traffic, 76 of 97 posts were review posts, either original or crossposted to other groups. This is a much higher amount of traffic than was seen in the groups rec.music.reviews (7 articles), rec.arts.books.reviews (5 articles), or rec.arts.sf.reviews (9 articles). This is comparable to the group rec.arts.movies.reviews, which had 60 articles. The level of traffic is therefore reasonable for such a moderated group. Rec.arts.comics.reviews would therefore be a forum for the reviewing of comic books, strips, and related publications; allowing those who wish to review a place to do so, and lessening the volume on the rec.arts.comics.info newsgroup. Moderation of the group would ensure that only the reviews would be present, along with occasional announcements from the moderator. It would ensure that followup posts only go to discussion groups, and would keep sales posts, ads, spam, binaries, and the like from flooding the group. The use of a robomoderation script would assure that reviews are posted in a timely manner, without needing full hand-moderation by the moderator. The use of various keywords in the Subject: header would allow those who are unable to edit Approved or Keyword headers to still post with a minimum of difficulty, as well as allowing readers in the followup newsgroups to easily select or kill the discussion. CHARTER: rec.arts.comics.reviews The purpose of this newsgroup is to review comic books, comic strips, political cartoon compilations, comic-review publications, and the like. It is not meant as a discussion forum, nor as a place to advertise comics and related publications. This newsgroup will be moderated by a moderation bot, with light hand-moderation in some cases. The script will check the Subject, Newsgroups, and Followup-to: lines. If a post is rejected, the script will return it with a copy of the moderation policy and the charter information; if a post is hand-moderated, the same policy will apply. The moderator has the right to cancel any posts with forged approval lines. The following rules will apply: - Advertisements, large binaries, SPAM, general announcements, and discussion and followup posts are not permitted in this group. They will be rejected. If a post begins with "Re: " then it is treated as a followup and will be returned. - Hierarchy-wide pre-approved FAQ posts, such as the rec.arts.comics general FAQ, will be posted if approved by the .info group. Other FAQ posts (such as the charter of the group, or a guide to review style) will be approved at moderator's discretion, with followups set to poster. - Posts to the group should begin with a Subject keyword such as REVIEW:, PREVIEW:, or COLUMN:, which will be chosen by the moderator. Any posts which begin with an approved Subject keyword will be automatically posted. Any post arriving without a keyword will be hand-moderated. The moderator may then add an appropriate keyword to the review post to identify its type. Additional types of keywords may be added at the moderator's discretion. - Posts to the group may be crossposted to other discussion groups in the rec.arts.comics.* hierarchy. Posts crossposted to groups outside the hierarchy, but containing the keyword, will be hand- moderated to ensure topicality. Posts crossposted to the other moderated rec.arts.comics.* newsgroups will be passed along to the moderators of the remaining groups. Posts crossposted to other moderated .reviews groups will be forwarded to the moderators of those groups for approval. Any not meeting charter requirements will be returned. - Followups should be set to three or less newsgroups within the rec.arts.comics.* hierarchy, not including the .reviews newsgroup or the other moderated rec.arts.comics.* newsgroups. Posts not meeting this requirement will be hand-moderated to ensure topicality. - An example Subject line for single-title (p)reviews could consist of the form: <KEYWORD> <TITLE #nnn> <any other information the author includes> This will allow sorting by TITLE while keeping the keyword present in the subject for easy robomoderation. - An example Subject line for multiple-title reviews could consist of the form: <KEYWORD> <COLUMN NAME> <any other information the author includes> This will allow sorting by COLUMN for those reviews which have traditionally been multi-title comments and reviews, while keeping the keyword present in the subject for easy robomoderation. END CHARTER. MODERATOR INFO: rec.arts.comics.reviews Moderator: Jeremy Billones <billones@primenet.com> Jeremy Billones is the current moderator of rec.arts.comics.info, a newsgroup which holds much, but not all, of the current review traffic within the rec.arts.comics.hierarchy. Having Mr. Billones as the moderator of the proposed rec.arts.comics.reviews newsgroup would ensure that the move of review posts from the .info group to the new .reviews group would be done with ease, and would make the approval of FAQs in the .reviews group equally easy. Mr. Billones has also served as a member of the Usenet Volunteer Votetakers on several votes. END MODERATOR INFO. PROCEDURE: This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups should be raised and resolved. The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups). This RFD will be posted again should there be any alterations done to it. If there is desire to create rec.arts.comics.reviews after the discussion period, a Call For Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote taker. Please do not attempt to vote until this happens. All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups. This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal". Please refer to these documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any questions about the process. DISTRIBUTION: This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups: news.groups, news.announce.newgroups, rec.arts.comics.info, rec.arts.comics.misc, rec.arts.books.reviews, rec.arts.sf.reviews Proponent: Kate Weizel <katew@cicero.spc.uchicago.edu> Mentors: RAC-RFD Committee <rac-rfd@idyllmtn.com> -- Kate the Short -<katew@cicero.spc.uchicago.edu>- at the U of Chicago RAC-FAQ http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/keweizel/ RAC-RFD Are you a NEW READER of the X-Men or rec.arts.comics.marvel.xbooks?? FAQs are at: http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/keweizel/faq.html From katew@cicero.spc.uchicago.edu Wed Feb 19 08:13:44 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: katew@cicero.spc.uchicago.edu (Katharine Weizel) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.arts.comics.info,rec.arts.comics.misc,rec.arts.books.reviews,rec.arts.sf.reviews Subject: 3rd RFD: rec.arts.comics.reviews moderated Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <856368839.3359@isc.org> Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Archive-Name: rec.arts.comics.reviews Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 16:13:59 GMT Lines: 134 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:75 REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) moderated group rec.arts.comics.reviews This is an official Request For Discussion (RFD) for the formation of a proposed new worldwide moderated newsgroup, rec.arts.comics.reviews. This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details are below. CHANGES from previous RFD: Changed newsgroup line. Streamlined rationale. Clarified, expanded, added examples of reviewable items to charter. Minimized moderation details in charter. Newsgroup line: rec.arts.comics.reviews Reviews of comics and comics-related materials. (Moderated) RATIONALE: rec.arts.comics.reviews The volume of review traffic in rec.arts.comics.info has increased to a point where three-fourths of the newsgroup is comprised of reviews, and only one-fourth of the traffic contains FAQ postings, reports, news bulletins, or announcements. The amount of review traffic in the .info group makes it hard to find the informative posts. In a recent one-week sample of traffic, 76 of 97 posts were review posts, either original or crossposted to other groups. This is a much higher amount of traffic than was seen in the groups rec.music.reviews (7 posts), rec.arts.books.reviews (5 posts), or rec.arts.sf.reviews (9 posts). This is comparable to the group rec.arts.movies.reviews, which had 60 posts. The level of traffic is therefore reasonable for a moderated reviews newsgroup. Rec.arts.comics.reviews would therefore be a forum for any reviews which address material appropriate within the rec.arts.comics.* hierarchy. Moderation of the group would ensure that only the reviews would be present, along with occasional announcements from the moderator. It would ensure that followup posts only go to discussion groups, and would keep sales posts, ads, spam, binaries, and the like from flooding the group. The use of a robomoderation script would assure that reviews are posted in a timely manner, without needing full hand-moderation by the moderator. The use of various keywords in the Subject: header would allow those who are unable to edit Approved or Keyword headers to still post with a minimum of difficulty, as well as allowing readers in the followup newsgroups to easily select or kill the discussion. CHARTER: rec.arts.comics.reviews The purpose of this newsgroup is to review items, materials, and events normally addressed and discussed within the rec.arts.comics.* hierarchy. Examples include, but are not limited to: Comic books, strips, political cartoons, and their compilations Movie/TV/prose adaptations of comic-book characters and stories Biographies or histories of characters, pros, and the industry rec.arts.comics.creative "issues" or "titles" Industry-related publications and magazines Subscription companies and services Archival/collecting materials Cataloguing software Comics conventions The following policies will apply: - Advertisements, large binaries, SPAM, general announcements, and discussion/followup posts are not permitted in this group. They will be rejected. If a post begins with "Re: " then it is treated as a followup and will be returned. - Posts to the group should begin with a Subject keyword such as REVIEW:, PREVIEW:, or COLUMN:, which will be chosen by the moderator. The moderator may add additional keywords as they become necessary. The moderator may add an appropriate keyword to the subject line if none is provided. - Posts to the group may be crossposted to other discussion groups or to other appropriate *.reviews groups. Followups should be set to three or fewer appropriate discussion groups. - Hierarchy-wide pre-approved FAQ posts, such as the rec.arts.comics general FAQ, will be posted if approved by the .info group. Other FAQ posts (such as the charter of the group, or a guide to review style) will be approved at moderator's discretion. END CHARTER. MODERATOR INFO: rec.arts.comics.reviews Moderator: Jeremy Billones <billones@primenet.com> Jeremy Billones is the current moderator of rec.arts.comics.info. Having Mr. Billones as the moderator of rec.arts.comics.reviews would ensure that the move of review posts from the .info group to the new .reviews group would be done with ease, and would make the approval of FAQs in the .reviews group equally easy. Mr. Billones has also served as a member of the Usenet Volunteer Votetakers. END MODERATOR INFO. PROCEDURE: This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups should be raised and resolved. The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups). This RFD will be posted again should there be any alterations done to it. If there is desire to create rec.arts.comics.reviews after the discussion period, a Call For Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote taker. Please do not attempt to vote until this happens. All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups. This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal". Please refer to these documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any questions about the process. DISTRIBUTION: This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups: news.groups, news.announce.newgroups, rec.arts.comics.info, rec.arts.comics.misc, rec.arts.books.reviews, rec.arts.sf.reviews Proponent: Kate Weizel <katew@cicero.spc.uchicago.edu> Mentors: RAC-RFD Committee <rac-rfd@idyllmtn.com> From bostwick@cas.chemistry.gatech.edu Wed Mar 5 13:30:08 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: bostwick@cas.chemistry.gatech.edu (David Bostwick) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.arts.comics.misc,rec.arts.books.reviews,rec.arts.comics.info,rec.arts.sf.reviews Subject: CFV: rec.arts.comics.reviews moderated Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <857596917.17109@isc.org> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers (UVV) Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Expires: 27 Mar 1997 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: rec.arts.comics.reviews Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 21:21:57 GMT Lines: 179 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:136 FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) moderated group rec.arts.comics.reviews Newsgroups line: rec.arts.comics.reviews Reviews of comics and comics-related materials. (Moderated) Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 26 Mar 1997. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Katharine Weizel <katew@cicero.spc.uchicago.edu> Mentor: RAC-RFD Committee <rac-rfd@idyllmtn.com> Votetaker: David Bostwick <bostwick@cas.chemistry.gatech.edu> RATIONALE: rec.arts.comics.reviews The volume of review traffic in rec.arts.comics.info has increased to a point where three-fourths of the newsgroup is comprised of reviews, and only one-fourth of the traffic contains FAQ postings, reports, news bulletins, or announcements. The amount of review traffic in the .info group makes it hard to find the informative posts. In a recent one-week sample of traffic, 76 of 97 posts were review posts, either original or crossposted to other groups. This is a much higher amount of traffic than was seen in the groups rec.music.reviews (7 posts), rec.arts.books.reviews (5 posts), or rec.arts.sf.reviews (9 posts). This is comparable to the group rec.arts.movies.reviews, which had 60 posts. The level of traffic is therefore reasonable for a moderated reviews newsgroup. Rec.arts.comics.reviews would therefore be a forum for any reviews which address material appropriate within the rec.arts.comics.* hierarchy. Moderation of the group would ensure that only the reviews would be present, along with occasional announcements from the moderator. It would ensure that followup posts only go to discussion groups, and would keep sales posts, ads, spam, binaries, and the like from flooding the group. The use of a robomoderation script would assure that reviews are posted in a timely manner, without needing full hand-moderation by the moderator. The use of various keywords in the Subject: header would allow those who are unable to edit Approved or Keyword headers to still post with a minimum of difficulty, as well as allowing readers in the followup newsgroups to easily select or kill the discussion. CHARTER: rec.arts.comics.reviews The purpose of this newsgroup is to review items, materials, and events normally addressed and discussed within the rec.arts.comics.* hierarchy. Examples include, but are not limited to: Comic books, strips, political cartoons, and their compilations Movie/TV/prose adaptations of comic-book characters and stories Biographies or histories of characters, pros, and the industry rec.arts.comics.creative "issues" or "titles" Industry-related publications and magazines Subscription companies and services Archival/collecting materials Cataloguing software Comics conventions The following policies will apply: - Advertisements, large binaries, SPAM, general announcements, and discussion/followup posts are not permitted in this group. They will be rejected. If a post begins with "Re: " then it is treated as a followup and will be returned. - Posts to the group should begin with a Subject keyword such as REVIEW:, PREVIEW:, or COLUMN:, which will be chosen by the moderator. The moderator may add additional keywords as they become necessary. The moderator may add an appropriate keyword to the subject line if none is provided. - Posts to the group may be crossposted to other discussion groups or to other appropriate *.reviews groups. Followups should be set to three or fewer appropriate discussion groups. - Hierarchy-wide pre-approved FAQ posts, such as the rec.arts.comics general FAQ, will be posted if approved by the .info group. Other FAQ posts (such as the charter of the group, or a guide to review style) will be approved at moderator's discretion. END CHARTER. MODERATOR INFO: rec.arts.comics.reviews Moderator: Jeremy Billones <billones@primenet.com> Administrative contact address: comics-reviews-request@primenet.com Article submission address: comics-reviews@primenet.com END MODERATOR INFO. DISTRIBUTION: This CFV was posted to the following newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups news.groups rec.arts.books.reviews rec.arts.comics.info rec.arts.comics.misc rec.arts.sf.reviews Pointers to the CFV were posted in the following newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.alternative rec.arts.comics.dc.lsh rec.arts.comics.dc.universe rec.arts.comics.dc.vertigo rec.arts.comics.elfquest rec.arts.comics.european rec.arts.comics.marvel.universe rec.arts.comics.marvel.xbooks rec.arts.comics.other-media rec.arts.comics.strips HOW TO VOTE Delete everything above the top "-=-=-" line and delete everything below the bottom -=-=-" line. Do not change anything between these lines, except to add your name and vote. Give your name on the line that asks for it. For each group, put your vote in the brackets next to the group name. Valid entries are ABSTAIN, CANCEL, NO, and YES. Anything else may generate an invalid vote. Don't worry about changes in spacing or any quote characters (">") that your reply may insert. Mail the ballot to <bostwick@cas.chemistry.gatech.edu>. Just replying to this should work, but check the "To:" line. Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker. Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited ballots is considered vote fraud. Only one vote is allowed per person or per account. Votes will be acknowleged by e-mail. If you have not received an acknowledgement within a few days, contact the votetaker. It is your responsibility to be certain your vote has been recorded correctly. If you want to change your vote, you may vote again, but only the latest vote will be counted. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final vote ack. The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of people who would read a proposed newsgroup. Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose. Please do not distribute this CFV. If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted in news.groups. When in doubt, ask the votetaker. -=-=- BEGINNING OF BALLOT: DELETE EVERYTHING ABOVE THIS LINE =-=-=-=-=-=-= This ballot is available only from | FIRST CALL FOR VOTES | postings in news.groups or by e-mail | REC.ARTS.COMICS.REVIEWS | from the votetaker. It is distributed | <RACR-0001> | blank. Votes are counted by computer, ================================== and failure to use this ballot increases the possibility that the software will be unable to process your vote properly. Do not edit this ballot except to add your name and indicate your vote. These are examples of how to mark the ballot. Do not vote here. [ YES ] example.yes.vote [ NO ] example.no.vote [ ABSTAIN ] example.abstain.vote [ CANCEL ] example.cancel.vote The placement of the word within the brackets is not important, but use the complete word, not just one letter. 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Your Vote Group (Place your vote below in the brackets next to the group) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ ] rec.arts.comics.reviews -=-=-=-= END OF BALLOT: DELETE EVERYTHING BELOW THIS LINE =-=-=-=-=-=-= From bostwick@cas.chemistry.gatech.edu Fri Mar 14 07:45:09 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: bostwick@cas.chemistry.gatech.edu (David Bostwick) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.arts.comics.misc,rec.arts.books.reviews,rec.arts.comics.info,rec.arts.sf.reviews Subject: 2nd CFV: rec.arts.comics.reviews moderated Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <858354252.28139@isc.org> Supersedes: <857596917.17109@isc.org> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers (UVV) Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Expires: 27 Mar 1997 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: rec.arts.comics.reviews Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 15:44:12 GMT Lines: 184 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:172 LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) moderated group rec.arts.comics.reviews Newsgroups line: rec.arts.comics.reviews Reviews of comics and comics-related materials. (Moderated) Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 26 Mar 1997. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Katharine Weizel <katew@cicero.spc.uchicago.edu> Mentor: RAC-RFD Committee <rac-rfd@idyllmtn.com> Votetaker: David Bostwick <bostwick@cas.chemistry.gatech.edu> RATIONALE: rec.arts.comics.reviews The volume of review traffic in rec.arts.comics.info has increased to a point where three-fourths of the newsgroup is comprised of reviews, and only one-fourth of the traffic contains FAQ postings, reports, news bulletins, or announcements. The amount of review traffic in the .info group makes it hard to find the informative posts. In a recent one-week sample of traffic, 76 of 97 posts were review posts, either original or crossposted to other groups. This is a much higher amount of traffic than was seen in the groups rec.music.reviews (7 posts), rec.arts.books.reviews (5 posts), or rec.arts.sf.reviews (9 posts). This is comparable to the group rec.arts.movies.reviews, which had 60 posts. The level of traffic is therefore reasonable for a moderated reviews newsgroup. Rec.arts.comics.reviews would therefore be a forum for any reviews which address material appropriate within the rec.arts.comics.* hierarchy. Moderation of the group would ensure that only the reviews would be present, along with occasional announcements from the moderator. It would ensure that followup posts only go to discussion groups, and would keep sales posts, ads, spam, binaries, and the like from flooding the group. The use of a robomoderation script would assure that reviews are posted in a timely manner, without needing full hand-moderation by the moderator. The use of various keywords in the Subject: header would allow those who are unable to edit Approved or Keyword headers to still post with a minimum of difficulty, as well as allowing readers in the followup newsgroups to easily select or kill the discussion. CHARTER: rec.arts.comics.reviews The purpose of this newsgroup is to review items, materials, and events normally addressed and discussed within the rec.arts.comics.* hierarchy. Examples include, but are not limited to: Comic books, strips, political cartoons, and their compilations Movie/TV/prose adaptations of comic-book characters and stories Biographies or histories of characters, pros, and the industry rec.arts.comics.creative "issues" or "titles" Industry-related publications and magazines Subscription companies and services Archival/collecting materials Cataloguing software Comics conventions The following policies will apply: - Advertisements, large binaries, SPAM, general announcements, and discussion/followup posts are not permitted in this group. They will be rejected. If a post begins with "Re: " then it is treated as a followup and will be returned. - Posts to the group should begin with a Subject keyword such as REVIEW:, PREVIEW:, or COLUMN:, which will be chosen by the moderator. The moderator may add additional keywords as they become necessary. The moderator may add an appropriate keyword to the subject line if none is provided. - Posts to the group may be crossposted to other discussion groups or to other appropriate *.reviews groups. Followups should be set to three or fewer appropriate discussion groups. - Hierarchy-wide pre-approved FAQ posts, such as the rec.arts.comics general FAQ, will be posted if approved by the .info group. Other FAQ posts (such as the charter of the group, or a guide to review style) will be approved at moderator's discretion. END CHARTER. MODERATOR INFO: rec.arts.comics.reviews Moderator: Jeremy Billones <billones@primenet.com> Administrative contact address: comics-reviews-request@primenet.com Article submission address: comics-reviews@primenet.com END MODERATOR INFO. DISTRIBUTION: This CFV was posted to the following newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups news.groups rec.arts.books.reviews rec.arts.comics.info rec.arts.comics.misc rec.arts.sf.reviews Pointers to the CFV were posted in the following newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.alternative rec.arts.comics.dc.lsh rec.arts.comics.dc.universe rec.arts.comics.dc.vertigo rec.arts.comics.elfquest rec.arts.comics.european rec.arts.comics.marvel.universe rec.arts.comics.marvel.xbooks rec.arts.comics.other-media rec.arts.comics.strips HOW TO VOTE Delete everything above the top "-=-=-" line and delete everything below the bottom -=-=-" line. Do not change anything between these lines, except to add your name and vote. Give your name on the line that asks for it. For each group, put your vote in the brackets next to the group name. Valid entries are ABSTAIN, CANCEL, NO, and YES. Anything else may generate an invalid vote. 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If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted in news.groups. When in doubt, ask the votetaker. -=-=- BEGINNING OF BALLOT: DELETE EVERYTHING ABOVE THIS LINE =-=-=-=-=-=-= This ballot is available only from | laST CALL FOR VOTES | postings in news.groups or by e-mail | REC.ARTS.COMICS.REVIEWS | from the votetaker. It is distributed | <RACR-0002> | blank. Votes are counted by computer, ================================== and failure to use this ballot increases the possibility that the software will be unable to process your vote properly. Do not edit this ballot except to add your name and indicate your vote. These are examples of how to mark the ballot. Do not vote here. [ YES ] example.yes.vote [ NO ] example.no.vote [ ABSTAIN ] example.abstain.vote [ CANCEL ] example.cancel.vote The placement of the word within the brackets is not important, but use the complete word, not just one letter. 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Your Vote Group (Place your vote below in the brackets next to the group) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ ] rec.arts.comics.reviews -=-=-=-= END OF BALLOT: DELETE EVERYTHING BELOW THIS LINE =-=-=-=-=-=-= rec.arts.comics.reviews Bounce List - These votes have been counted ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ kalyn@sparkle.cambridgenet.sk.ca James Kalyn From bostwick@cas.chemistry.gatech.edu Thu Mar 27 12:15:29 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: bostwick@cas.chemistry.gatech.edu (David Bostwick) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.arts.comics.misc,rec.arts.books.reviews,rec.arts.comics.info,rec.arts.sf.reviews Subject: RESULT: rec.arts.comics.reviews passes 157:37 Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <859492995.7370@isc.org> Supersedes: <858354252.28139@isc.org> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers (UVV) Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Archive-Name: rec.arts.comics.reviews Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 20:03:16 GMT Lines: 343 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:234 RESULT moderated group rec.arts.comics.reviews passes 157:37 There were 157 YES votes and 37 NO votes, for a total of 194 valid votes. There was 1 abstain and 1 invalid ballot. For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO) votes. There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted. If no serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter. Newsgroups line: rec.arts.comics.reviews Reviews of comics and comics-related materials. (Moderated) The voting period for this group ended at 23:59:59 UTC, 26 Mar 1997. This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Katharine Weizel <katew@cicero.spc.uchicago.edu> Mentor: RAC-RFD Committee <rac-rfd@idyllmtn.com> Votetaker: David Bostwick <bostwick@cas.chemistry.gatech.edu> RATIONALE: rec.arts.comics.reviews The volume of review traffic in rec.arts.comics.info has increased to a point where three-fourths of the newsgroup is comprised of reviews, and only one-fourth of the traffic contains FAQ postings, reports, news bulletins, or announcements. The amount of review traffic in the .info group makes it hard to find the informative posts. In a recent one-week sample of traffic, 76 of 97 posts were review posts, either original or crossposted to other groups. This is a much higher amount of traffic than was seen in the groups rec.music.reviews (7 posts), rec.arts.books.reviews (5 posts), or rec.arts.sf.reviews (9 posts). This is comparable to the group rec.arts.movies.reviews, which had 60 posts. The level of traffic is therefore reasonable for a moderated reviews newsgroup. Rec.arts.comics.reviews would therefore be a forum for any reviews which address material appropriate within the rec.arts.comics.* hierarchy. Moderation of the group would ensure that only the reviews would be present, along with occasional announcements from the moderator. It would ensure that followup posts only go to discussion groups, and would keep sales posts, ads, spam, binaries, and the like from flooding the group. The use of a robomoderation script would assure that reviews are posted in a timely manner, without needing full hand-moderation by the moderator. The use of various keywords in the Subject: header would allow those who are unable to edit Approved or Keyword headers to still post with a minimum of difficulty, as well as allowing readers in the followup newsgroups to easily select or kill the discussion. CHARTER: rec.arts.comics.reviews The purpose of this newsgroup is to review items, materials, and events normally addressed and discussed within the rec.arts.comics.* hierarchy. Examples include, but are not limited to: Comic books, strips, political cartoons, and their compilations Movie/TV/prose adaptations of comic-book characters and stories Biographies or histories of characters, pros, and the industry rec.arts.comics.creative "issues" or "titles" Industry-related publications and magazines Subscription companies and services Archival/collecting materials Cataloguing software Comics conventions The following policies will apply: - Advertisements, large binaries, SPAM, general announcements, and discussion/followup posts are not permitted in this group. They will be rejected. If a post begins with "Re: " then it is treated as a followup and will be returned. - Posts to the group should begin with a Subject keyword such as REVIEW:, PREVIEW:, or COLUMN:, which will be chosen by the moderator. The moderator may add additional keywords as they become necessary. The moderator may add an appropriate keyword to the subject line if none is provided. - Posts to the group may be crossposted to other discussion groups or to other appropriate *.reviews groups. Followups should be set to three or fewer appropriate discussion groups. - Hierarchy-wide pre-approved FAQ posts, such as the rec.arts.comics general FAQ, will be posted if approved by the .info group. Other FAQ posts (such as the charter of the group, or a guide to review style) will be approved at moderator's discretion. END CHARTER. MODERATOR INFO: rec.arts.comics.reviews Moderator: Jeremy Billones <billones@primenet.com> Administrative contact address: comics-reviews-request@primenet.com Article submission address: comics-reviews@primenet.com END MODERATOR INFO. DISTRIBUTION: The CFV for this group was posted to the following newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups news.groups rec.arts.books.reviews rec.arts.comics.info rec.arts.comics.misc rec.arts.sf.reviews Pointers to the CFV were posted in the following newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.alternative rec.arts.comics.dc.lsh rec.arts.comics.dc.universe rec.arts.comics.dc.vertigo rec.arts.comics.elfquest rec.arts.comics.european rec.arts.comics.marvel.universe rec.arts.comics.marvel.xbooks rec.arts.comics.other-media rec.arts.comics.strips rec.arts.comics.reviews Final Vote Ack Voted Yes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 106433.3062@compuserve.com Steve Block 34EKDMC@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU Andrew D. Devenney 5smith@wworld.com Jim Smith 72674.2012@compuserve.com Steve Lieber aardy@anet-chi.com Joel Hahn aearhart@chemistry.ohio-state.edu Alan D. Earhart af@contract.co.uk Alan Fleming alan.ralph@ukonline.co.uk Alan Ralph alec@usticke.org Alexander E. Usticke alexa@nidlink.com Dawn L Bobby an104@ohm.york.ac.uk A. Nothofer Andreas.Neubacher@risc.uni-linz.ac.at Andreas Neubacher anoop@unagi.cis.upenn.edu Anoop Sarkar arielle@taronga.com Stephanie da Silva arthur@clark.net Arthur C. Adams asveenst@mtu.edu Aaron Veenstra az266@lafn.org B. Thober bbeaty@po-box.mcgill.ca bart beconrad@neumann.uwaterloo.ca Blair Conrad billian@crl.com MARK W> BILLIAN bmiller@nwu.edu Brad Miller bouvin@daimi.aau.dk Niels Olof Bouvin breynold@nmt.edu Betty Reynolds brl@mnfep.nn.inri.com Rob Lorenz Bryant.Durrell@Corp.Sun.COM Bryant Durrell bura@laforia.ibp.fr Stephane Bura cbrand@hacemx.hac.com Chris Brand cc706@freenet.carleton.ca Allan J. Benson clevelan@cae.wisc.edu Michael Cleveland cohenm@netcom.com Michael Cohen CopeKnight@worldnet.att.net Carl Lund daver@uiuc.edu David Ruby davidhh@ix.netcom.com David Hamburger davis.663@osu.edu Tony! (Anthony Edward Davis) dbrinker@earthlink.net Don Brinker decena@whqpos4b.daytonoh.ncr.com Al Decena dgmillow@hamlet.uncg.edu David Milloway djdaneh@PacBell.COM Dan'l Danehy-Oakes dtallan@interlog.com David Tallan dubach1@husc.harvard.edu Joev Dubach dvandom@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu Dave Van Domelen dzeigler@ix.netcom.com Drew Zeigler edge@indiana.edu Ronald D. Edge eivindgl@sn.no Eivind Gladheim Xstreng ejnoomen@xs4all.nl Eric-Jan Noomen espinoza@cgl.ucsf.EDU Hernan Espinoza euthke@siam.muc.de Ekkehard Uthke firehead@panix.com Elayne Wechsler-Chaput fossen@sirius.com Mark A. Fossen franoble@xmission.com Lon Franson fuy1@gl.umbc.edu Francis Uy ghost96@erols.com Glenn E. Host gloop@bigpond.com Rick Eyre henry2@uakron.edu James R. Henry, AKA Spooon henrym@sacto.mp.usbr.gov Henry W. Miller hyena@WPI.EDU Jason Sardell ichudov@algebra.com Igor Chudov IO20738@MAINE.maine.edu Brent M. Sutherland irina@rempt.xs4all.nl Irina Rempt islander@netbox.com Michael Bauser jac72723@Bayou.UH.EDU jacob clifton janus@cwo.com Keith Adams JayJ61952@aol.com Jay A. Johnson jbfliege@midway.uchicago.edu Jason Fliegel jbh@blackhole.dimensional.com Joe Helfrich jdfalk@cybernothing.org J.D. Falk jdg@rahul.net John David Galt jesp@intercable.net Jesus Eugenio Sanchez jimmyc@ccrtc.com Jimmy D. Collins jl8e@fragment.com Julian Lighton jlane@pathfinder.com Jason Lane jmichael@slip.net Jeff Michael johnca@cgl.org John Abbe jparrish@netten.net Jason Parrish jpc@drum.msfc.nasa.gov J. Porter Clark jsisson@uci.edu John Sisson jsk591@merle.acns.nwu.edu Joshua Kreitzer JWilsonSD@aol.com John H. Wilson K.P.Sheka@worldnet.att.net Karthik Sheka kalyn@sparkle.cambridgenet.sk.ca James Kalyn katew@cicero.spc.uchicago.edu Katharine Weizel katie@physics.Berkeley.EDU Katie Schwarz keb@u.washington.edu Kathleen Bennett kem@gnu.ai.mit.edu Katherine E. Martin kevin@3-cities.com Kevin Sargeant kimdv@netcom.com Kim DeVaughn KirkJM@cardiff.ac.uk Jason Kirk knott@vertigo3D.com Dave Knott kurtis@netcom.com Richard Atkins, Jr. list-votes@dream.hb.north.de Martin Schr"oder LoLehmann@aol.com Laurent Lehmann mac7@po.CWRU.Edu Michael Chary maittola@cc.hut.fi Mikko Aittola martinej@U.Arizona.EDU Joseph R.C. Martinez marvspawn@barefactsbbs.com Bradly E. Peterson mau@beatles.cselt.stet.it Maurizio Codogno mfarah@puc.cl Miguel Farah F. michael.lehmeier@stud.uni-regensburg.de Michael Lehmeier mindset@oakton.edu Brucha S. Meyers mmorrell@artsci.wustl.edu Melissa Morrell morrow@physics.rice.edu Greg Morrow mortiz@scf.usc.edu Mariela Ortiz mosquito@utxvms.cc.utexas.edu John N. Mosqueda n9446641@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu Brian D. Smith naddy@mips.pfalz.de Christian Weisgerber nick@pheasnt.demon.co.uk Nick Eden orbit@ix.netcom.com Michael Grabois pattist@ix.netcom.com Barbara Pattist paul@troll.no Paul Olav Tvete paxil@cancom.net Trevor Tymchuk Pilldust@aol.com Stephen Reese pimentel@ultranet.com J Pimentel ppetto@apk.net Peter Petto pzalac@callisto.uwinnipeg.ca Paul Tom Zalac ramani@khan.tam.cornell.edu Deepak Ramani rbartrop@freenet.calgary.ab.ca Richard J. Bartrop rg259095@oak.cats.ohiou.edu Chip Grimshaw richsong@vcn.bc.ca Richard Songhurst rick@bcm.tmc.edu Richard Miller rick@blkbox.COM Rick Jones rollie@next.com Matt Rollefson roper@Mcs.Net Bill Roper rsc@titan.advanced.org R. S. Camm rshelton@continental.net Rod Shelton s310362@student.uq.edu.au Gary Johnson sam@ti.lmco.com Sam Powell sarahc@wrightinst.edu Sarah C. scowling@islandnet.com Jim Cowling serier@staffars.se Staffan Dahlberg shap.wolf@asu.edu Shap Wolf ShutUpRob@aol.com Robert C. Jensen sigma7@ksu.edu Sigma Seven simpson@netcom.com Bob Simpson spacedog@telepost.no Arild Waerness sparre@fys.ku.dk Jacob Sparre Andersen sparrish@hpfcla.fc.hp.com Scott M Parrish SRoweCanoe@aol.com Steven Rowe stephen.weihman@tel.gte.com Stephen J. Weihman stuart@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz stuart yeates sward@primenet.com Sidne Gail Ward szwanger@gnu.ai.mit.edu Steven Zwanger tegan@eskimo.com Laura Gjovaag tiktok@eskimo.com Eric Gjovaag tlawson@amug.org Todd C. Lawson tlynch@alumni.caltech.edu Tim Lynch tom@basil.icce.rug.nl Tom Hageman tpancoast@pobox.com Thomas W Pancoast tycage@infi.net Ty Cage Warren ulfb@nada.kth.se Ulf Berggren ummacnai@cc.UManitoba.CA Iain MacNair verbeek@HOPE.CIT.HOPE.EDU Todd VerBeek westonsxe@prodigy.net David Williams Wharbaugh@aol.com Will Harbaugh whsudder@hamlet.uncg.edu William Sudderth wills@dstu.univ-montp2.fr Julian D. Wills woodsmok@gte.net MC Woodsmoke zot@ampersand.com Mark Atwood Voted No ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ abbott@dakota.net Dan Abbott adam.huby@ffei.co.uk Adam Huby afabbro@brokenarrow.us.itd.umich.edu Andrew Fabbro bcowles@haverford.edu Ben Cowles bg549@torfree.net Bob Heer billones@primenet.com Jeremy Billones booda@datasync.com Martin H. Booda brueggem@math.uiuc.edu Jeffrey A. Brueggeman cal711@u.washington.edu Jane Griffin cslepage@highway1.com Charles S. LePage d.g.froese@sk.sympatico.ca Denton Froese DCOJohanna@aol.com Johanna Draper finc27@pop.uni-dortmund.de Thomas Adams godai@neosoft.com Chris Hutts gsellers@best.com Greg Sellers gustavus@iglou.com Steve Gustafson john1@world.std.com Fred Cherry keithc@cco.caltech.edu Keith M. Counsell lah@magna.com.au Lyndall Hardy lwagers@copper.ucs.indiana.edu Lora Wagers olav@viking.mv.com Olav Nieuwejaar patl@lcs.mit.edu Patrick J. LoPresti prob@tattoo.ed.ac.uk Paul O'Brien RSHARER@delphi.com Rick Sharer saust@astro.Princeton.EDU Ann Saust stainles@bga.com Dwight Brown stamper@stamper.com Chris Stamper steiners@primenet.com Jason Steiner Theresa.Ward@Ebay.Sun.COM Teri Ward troyesq@indirect.com T. Troy McNemar, Esq. varange@crl.com Troy Varange wiedbus1@pilot.msu.edu D.C. Wiedbusch wmay@cisco.com Bill May wphahn@stat.ncsu.edu William Paul Hahn ylee@watsun.cc.columbia.edu Yeechang Lee zed@cjnetworks.com Ned Fleming zombie@netcom.com Erik Veit Abstained ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ jwmichae@student.umass.edu Jacob W. Michaels Votes in error ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ kibo@dhp.com kibo ! Invalid address $