From birchall@pilot.njin.net Sat Jan 22 17:54:52 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.geos,comp.os.msdos.pcgeos,comp.sys.pen Subject: RFD: comp.os.geos reorganization Followup-To: news.groups Date: 22 Jan 1994 16:24:13 -0500 Organization: Screaming in Digital, the Queensryche Digest Lines: 112 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4483 news.groups:92705 comp.os.geos:1502 comp.os.msdos.pcgeos:5839 comp.sys.pen:5037 This is a RFD (Request For Discussion) of the creation of a new hierarchy and subgroups within that hierarchy, to better distribute the topics now being discussed in the newsgroups comp.os.geos and comp.os.msdos.pcgeos. PROPOSED HIERARCHY: comp.os.geos.* PROPOSED GROUPS: RENAME comp.os.geos to comp.os.geos.misc (unmoderated) comp.os.msdos.pcgeos to comp.os.geos.bugs (unmoderated) NEWGROUP comp.os.geos.development (unmoderated) comp.os.geos.announce (moderated) comp.os.geos.pen (unmoderated) BACKGROUND AND RATIONALE: Last year, the group comp.os.geos was created to replace the somewhat mis-named comp.os.msdos.pcgeos group. At that time, it was stated that a complete hierarchy was planned for eventual implementation. (Note: due to poor planning, the obsolete comp.os.msdos.pcgeos group was not renamed or removed at that time.) Since the creation of comp.os.geos, the GEOS operating system has become more widely used. Geoworks, maker of GEOS, has formed alliances with Tandy, Casio, Sharp, Canon, America OnLine, EMBARC, CompuServe, Intuit, Palm, and other vendors which are resulting in GEOS being available for both desktop PC's and pen-based PDA's. A low-priced SDK was released in October, and third-party applications are appearing regularly. (Note: a separate proposal has been filed for comp.binaries.geos, to facilitate uuencoded posting of these applications.) Increasingly, requests have been made for a complete hierarchy, by users who wish to avoid posting announcements or highly technical messages in the current general group. CURRENT USAGE STATISTICS I have compiled some approximate statistics on the topical breakdown of the current contents of comp.os.geos on my host, out of a total 237,300 bytes. _Topic_ _Proposed group_ _Bandwidth_ Miscellaneous comp.os.geos.misc 74,100 bytes Development comp.os.geos.development 57,600 bytes Problems comp.os.geos.bugs 49,300 bytes New products comp.os.geos.announce (moderated) 23,500 bytes Binaries comp.binaries.geos (moderated, separate RFD) 19,100 bytes Pen systems comp.os.geos.pen 13,800 bytes CHARTERS: comp.os.geos.misc (unmoderated) will provide a forum for general discussion of the GEOS operating system by Geoworks (Berkeley, CA) and products associated with it. Topics would likely include the OS itself, the Geoworks Ensemble application suites (v1.0, 1.2, Pro, 2.0, and future), any third-party software created for GEOS by independent software vendors, system configuration, and such. comp.os.geos.bugs (unmoderated) will provide a forum for the discussion of problems, conflicts, and "undocumented features" found in GEOS and GEOS-based products, compatibility difficulties between GEOS and non-GEOS products, and solutions to these problems. comp.os.geos.development (unmoderated) will provide a forum for discussion of the GEOS Software Development Kit, GEOS-based software development and testing, particularly by third-party independent software vendors, and the forthcoming GEOS Device Driver Development Kit. Developer's conferences and third-party development toolkits would also be discussed here. comp.os.geos.announce (moderated) will provide a forum for the announcement of GEOS-based products and related services, products and events. John D. Mitchell, one of the developers of GEOS itself and an expert on the system, has volunteered to serve as moderator for this group. His current address is johnm@cory.eecs.berkeley.edu, but he may have a new non-scholastic address by the time this goes to a vote. comp.os.geos.pen (unmoderated) will provide a forum for discussion of pen computers and PDAs (Personal Digital Assistants) using GEOS, including hardware, software, drivers, and communications. Topics in this group would include the systems on which GEOS is available pre-installed (Tandy Z-PDA, Casio Z-7000, Sharp PT-9000, MicroSlate Datellite 400, and AST Model 2390), and also the use of GEOS on other pen-based systems (Quaderno, NCR 3125, etc). SUMMARY: In summary, a new hierarchy with subgroups would better serve the GEOS rapidly growing communities of GEOS users, intergrators, and developers. CFV: If a relatively solid proposal exists after about a month of discussion (mid-to-late February 1994), the voting process will begin, with CFV posting and vote gathering handled by an independent party (as usual, probably Ron Dippold's group). DISCUSSION: Discussion of the proposed groups should be held on news.groups. Note that the Followup-To: line of this article will direct any followups to news.groups automatically. Feel free to re-post this article to other newsgroups whose readers might find it of interest, as long as the Followup-To: line remains directed to news.groups. -- .4991 rof erutangis. lanimilbus deksam-drawkcab wen s'gahS s'ti ,enoyreve kooL .posys [2755-877 (906)] stsaeB & skooB ,tsidaSOEG ,retirw QAF ,rennurteN :gahS .xinU SOnuS ,005 teJkseD PH ,medoMxaF ASXF00441MP IPP ,0.2 SOEG skroWoeG :sesU .ahsiaM deman recnad niatrec a htiw stserof hguorht sklaw gnol rof gnioG :sgiD From rdippold@qualcomm.com (RonDippold) Wed Mar 9 23:34:52 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.geos,comp.os.msdos.pcgeos,comp.sys.pen Subject: CFV: comp.os.geos reorganization Followup-To: poster Date: 9 Mar 1994 17:24:29 -0500 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 135 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Expires: 31 Mar 1994 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: References: Reply-To: voting@qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold Voting Alias) Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4723 news.groups:97623 comp.os.geos:2254 comp.os.msdos.pcgeos:5858 comp.sys.pen:5418 FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) rename unmoderated comp.os.geos to comp.os.geos.misc rename unmoderated comp.os.msdos.pcgeos to comp.os.geos.bugs unmoderated comp.os.geos.development moderated comp.os.geos.announce unmoderated comp.os.geos.pen Newsgroups line: comp.os.geos.misc The GEOS operating system in general. comp.os.geos.announce Announcements of new GEOS products. (Moderated) comp.os.geos.bugs Bugs in GEOS and its applications. comp.os.geos.development Software development for the GEOS system. comp.os.geos.pen The GEOS system on pen-based platforms. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 30 March 1994. After this CFV appears on news.announce.newgroups, the proponent will post it to the Zoomer List . comp.os.geos is automatically gated to . This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting questions only contact rdippold@qualcomm.com. For questions about the proposed group contact Dan Birchall . CHARTERS comp.os.geos.misc (unmoderated) will provide a forum for general discussion of the GEOS operating system from Geoworks (Berkeley, CA) and products associated with it. Topics would likely include the OS itself, the Geoworks Ensemble application suites (v1.0, 1.2, Pro, 2.0, and future), any third-party software created for GEOS by independent software vendors, system configuration, et cetera. If this group passes, the group comp.os.geos will be removed after three months, giving traffic time to move to the new group. comp.os.geos.bugs (unmoderated) will provide a forum for the discussion of problems, conflicts, and "undocumented features" found in GEOS and GEOS-based products, compatibility difficulties between GEOS and non-GEOS products, and solutions to these problems. If this group passes, the group comp.os.msdos.pcgeos will be removed after three months, giving traffic time to move to the new group. comp.os.geos.development (unmoderated) will provide a forum for discussion of the GEOS Software Development Kit, GEOS-based software development and testing, particularly by third-party independent software vendors, and the forthcoming GEOS Device Driver Development Kit. Developer's conferences and third-party development toolkits would also be discussed here. comp.os.geos.announce (moderated) will provide a forum for the announcement of GEOS-based products and related services, products and events. The moderator will be John D. Mitchell, johnm@cory.eecs.berkeley.edu, one of the developers of GEOS itself. As he does not expect overwhelming traffic at first, this address will also serve as the initial submission address. comp.os.geos.pen (unmoderated) will provide a forum for discussion of pen computers and PDAs (Personal Digital Assistants) using GEOS, including hardware, software, drivers, and communications. Topics in this group would include the systems on which GEOS is available pre-installed (Tandy Z-PDA, Casio Z-7000, Sharp PT-9000, MicroSlate Datellite 400, and AST Model 2390), and also the use of GEOS on other pen-based systems (Quaderno, NCR 3125, etc). BACKGROUND AND RATIONALE: Last year, the group comp.os.geos was created to replace the somewhat mis-named comp.os.msdos.pcgeos group. At that time, it was stated that a complete hierarchy was planned for eventual implementation. (Note: due to poor planning, the obsolete comp.os.msdos.pcgeos group was not renamed or removed at that time.) Since the creation of comp.os.geos, the GEOS operating system has become more widely used. Geoworks, maker of GEOS, has formed alliances with Tandy, Casio, Sharp, Canon, America OnLine, EMBARC, CompuServe, Intuit, Palm, and other vendors which are resulting in GEOS being available for both desktop PC's and pen-based PDA's. A low-priced SDK was released in October, and third-party applications have been appearing since then. Increasingly, requests have been made for a complete hierarchy, by users who wish to avoid posting product announcements or highly technical messages in the current general group. Statistics generated in early 1994 indicated that each of the topics for which a new group is proposed accounted for a significant percentage of posts in the existing comp.os.geos group. In summary, a new hierarchy with subgroups would better serve the GEOS rapidly growing communities of GEOS users, intergrators, and developers. All products mentioned above are most likely (R), TM, or (C) by their respective creators. Just in case anyone cares. Each group should get voted on separately - I believe that's the norm. Better to get some, than none at all, you know. A separate proposal was filed for comp.binaries.geos. HOW TO VOTE Erase everything above the top "-=-=-=-" line and erase everything below the bottom "-=-=-=-" line. Do not erase anything between these lines and do not change the group names. Give your name on the line that asks for it. For each group, place a YES or NO in the brackets next to it to vote for or against it. If you don't want to vote on a particular group, just leave the space blank. Don't worry about spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your reply inserts. Then Mail the ballot to: voting@qualcomm.com Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list. If you are, then double-check the address. -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- comp.os.geos reorg Ballot (GEOS-0001) (Don't remove this marker!) Give your real name here: [Your Vote] Group ----------------------------------------------------------------------- [ ] comp.os.geos.misc (replaces comp.os.geos) [ ] comp.os.geos.announce (moderated) [ ] comp.os.geos.bugs (replaces comp.os.msdos.pcgeos) [ ] comp.os.geos.development [ ] comp.os.geos.pen -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge- ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly. Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list. From rdippold@qualcomm.com (RonDippold) Tue Mar 22 20:11:58 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.geos,comp.os.msdos.pcgeos,comp.sys.pen Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.os.geos reorganization Supersedes: Followup-To: poster Date: 15 Mar 1994 19:53:17 -0500 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 141 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Expires: 31 Mar 1994 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: References: Reply-To: voting@qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold Voting Alias) Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4784 news.groups:98293 comp.os.geos:2400 comp.os.msdos.pcgeos:5863 comp.sys.pen:5463 LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) rename unmoderated comp.os.geos to comp.os.geos.misc rename unmoderated comp.os.msdos.pcgeos to comp.os.geos.bugs unmoderated comp.os.geos.development moderated comp.os.geos.announce unmoderated comp.os.geos.pen Newsgroups line: comp.os.geos.misc The GEOS operating system in general. comp.os.geos.announce Announcements of new GEOS products. (Moderated) comp.os.geos.bugs Bugs in GEOS and its applications. comp.os.geos.development Software development for the GEOS system. comp.os.geos.pen The GEOS system on pen-based platforms. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 30 March 1994. After this CFV appears on news.announce.newgroups, the proponent will post it to the Zoomer List . comp.os.geos is automatically gated to . This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting questions only contact rdippold@qualcomm.com. For questions about the proposed group contact Dan Birchall . CHARTERS comp.os.geos.misc (unmoderated) will provide a forum for general discussion of the GEOS operating system from Geoworks (Berkeley, CA) and products associated with it. Topics would likely include the OS itself, the Geoworks Ensemble application suites (v1.0, 1.2, Pro, 2.0, and future), any third-party software created for GEOS by independent software vendors, system configuration, et cetera. If this group passes, the group comp.os.geos will be removed after three months, giving traffic time to move to the new group. comp.os.geos.bugs (unmoderated) will provide a forum for the discussion of problems, conflicts, and "undocumented features" found in GEOS and GEOS-based products, compatibility difficulties between GEOS and non-GEOS products, and solutions to these problems. If this group passes, the group comp.os.msdos.pcgeos will be removed after three months, giving traffic time to move to the new group. comp.os.geos.development (unmoderated) will provide a forum for discussion of the GEOS Software Development Kit, GEOS-based software development and testing, particularly by third-party independent software vendors, and the forthcoming GEOS Device Driver Development Kit. Developer's conferences and third-party development toolkits would also be discussed here. comp.os.geos.announce (moderated) will provide a forum for the announcement of GEOS-based products and related services, products and events. The moderator will be John D. Mitchell, johnm@cory.eecs.berkeley.edu, one of the developers of GEOS itself. As he does not expect overwhelming traffic at first, this address will also serve as the initial submission address. comp.os.geos.pen (unmoderated) will provide a forum for discussion of pen computers and PDAs (Personal Digital Assistants) using GEOS, including hardware, software, drivers, and communications. Topics in this group would include the systems on which GEOS is available pre-installed (Tandy Z-PDA, Casio Z-7000, Sharp PT-9000, MicroSlate Datellite 400, and AST Model 2390), and also the use of GEOS on other pen-based systems (Quaderno, NCR 3125, etc). BACKGROUND AND RATIONALE: Last year, the group comp.os.geos was created to replace the somewhat mis-named comp.os.msdos.pcgeos group. At that time, it was stated that a complete hierarchy was planned for eventual implementation. (Note: due to poor planning, the obsolete comp.os.msdos.pcgeos group was not renamed or removed at that time.) Since the creation of comp.os.geos, the GEOS operating system has become more widely used. Geoworks, maker of GEOS, has formed alliances with Tandy, Casio, Sharp, Canon, America OnLine, EMBARC, CompuServe, Intuit, Palm, and other vendors which are resulting in GEOS being available for both desktop PC's and pen-based PDA's. A low-priced SDK was released in October, and third-party applications have been appearing since then. Increasingly, requests have been made for a complete hierarchy, by users who wish to avoid posting product announcements or highly technical messages in the current general group. Statistics generated in early 1994 indicated that each of the topics for which a new group is proposed accounted for a significant percentage of posts in the existing comp.os.geos group. In summary, a new hierarchy with subgroups would better serve the GEOS rapidly growing communities of GEOS users, intergrators, and developers. All products mentioned above are most likely (R), TM, or (C) by their respective creators. Just in case anyone cares. Each group should get voted on separately - I believe that's the norm. Better to get some, than none at all, you know. A separate proposal was filed for comp.binaries.geos. HOW TO VOTE Erase everything above the top "-=-=-=-" line and erase everything below the bottom "-=-=-=-" line. Do not erase anything between these lines and do not change the group names. Give your name on the line that asks for it. For each group, place a YES or NO in the brackets next to it to vote for or against it. If you don't want to vote on a particular group, just leave the space blank. Don't worry about spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your reply inserts. Then Mail the ballot to: voting@qualcomm.com Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list. If you are, then double-check the address. -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- comp.os.geos reorg Ballot (GEOS-0001) (Don't remove this marker!) Give your real name here: [Your Vote] Group ----------------------------------------------------------------------- [ ] comp.os.geos.misc (replaces comp.os.geos) [ ] comp.os.geos.announce (moderated) [ ] comp.os.geos.bugs (replaces comp.os.msdos.pcgeos) [ ] comp.os.geos.development [ ] comp.os.geos.pen -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge- ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly. Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list. comp.os.geos.misc Bounce List - No need to revote ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ggk2192@silver.sdsmt.edu GREGORY G. KONDRASUK From rdippold@qualcomm.com (RonDippold) Fri Apr 1 20:55:47 1994 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron "Asbestos" Dippold) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.geos,comp.os.msdos.pcgeos,comp.sys.pen Subject: RESULT: comp.os.geos reorganization fails Supersedes: Followup-To: news.groups Date: 31 Mar 1994 21:43:27 -0500 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 187 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:4869 news.groups:99636 comp.os.geos:2667 comp.os.msdos.pcgeos:5871 comp.sys.pen:5603 RESULT comp.os.geos.misc results - 114 valid votes Yes No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group ---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : ------------------------------------------- 91 20 : Yes No : No : comp.os.geos.misc (from comp.os.geos) 96 16 : Yes No : No : comp.os.geos.announce 91 21 : Yes No : No : comp.os.geos.bugs (from comp.os.msdos.pcgeos) 92 18 : Yes No : No : comp.os.geos.development 90 21 : Yes No : No : comp.os.geos.pen The groups fail the "100 more YES votes than NO votes" criteria by 30 votes due to low turnout. Newsgroups line: comp.os.geos.misc The GEOS operating system in general. comp.os.geos.announce Announcements of new GEOS products. (Moderated) comp.os.geos.bugs Bugs in GEOS and its applications. comp.os.geos.development Software development for the GEOS system. comp.os.geos.pen The GEOS system on pen-based platforms. This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. For voting questions only contact rdippold@qualcomm.com. For questions about the proposed group contact Dan Birchall . CHARTERS comp.os.geos.misc (unmoderated) will provide a forum for general discussion of the GEOS operating system from Geoworks (Berkeley, CA) and products associated with it. Topics would likely include the OS itself, the Geoworks Ensemble application suites (v1.0, 1.2, Pro, 2.0, and future), any third-party software created for GEOS by independent software vendors, system configuration, et cetera. If this group passes, the group comp.os.geos will be removed after three months, giving traffic time to move to the new group. comp.os.geos.bugs (unmoderated) will provide a forum for the discussion of problems, conflicts, and "undocumented features" found in GEOS and GEOS-based products, compatibility difficulties between GEOS and non-GEOS products, and solutions to these problems. If this group passes, the group comp.os.msdos.pcgeos will be removed after three months, giving traffic time to move to the new group. comp.os.geos.development (unmoderated) will provide a forum for discussion of the GEOS Software Development Kit, GEOS-based software development and testing, particularly by third-party independent software vendors, and the forthcoming GEOS Device Driver Development Kit. Developer's conferences and third-party development toolkits would also be discussed here. comp.os.geos.announce (moderated) will provide a forum for the announcement of GEOS-based products and related services, products and events. The moderator will be John D. Mitchell, johnm@cory.eecs.berkeley.edu, one of the developers of GEOS itself. As he does not expect overwhelming traffic at first, this address will also serve as the initial submission address. comp.os.geos.pen (unmoderated) will provide a forum for discussion of pen computers and PDAs (Personal Digital Assistants) using GEOS, including hardware, software, drivers, and communications. Topics in this group would include the systems on which GEOS is available pre-installed (Tandy Z-PDA, Casio Z-7000, Sharp PT-9000, MicroSlate Datellite 400, and AST Model 2390), and also the use of GEOS on other pen-based systems (Quaderno, NCR 3125, etc). comp.os.geos.misc Final Vote Ack comp.os.geos.pen -------+ comp.os.geos.development ------+| comp.os.geos.bugs -----+|| comp.os.geos.announce ----+||| comp.os.geos.misc ---+|||| ||||| 70762.3335@CompuServe.COM Christopher Jean-Richard YYYYY abe19@educ.ucalgary.ca Dave McLean YYYYY aicklen@utdallas.edu Gregory H. Aicklen YYYYY andras@cs.wits.ac.za Andr\'as Salamon YYYYY asimon@cs.washington.edu Simon Auyeung YYYYY BAILEY%SSDVAX.decnet@lbgwy.mdc.com Lee Bailey NYYYY ballou@martigny.ai.mit.edu Ken Ballou YYYYY bbs@bbs.dsnet.com Bulletin Board System YYYNN beaufils@ens.lifl.fr Bruno BEAUFILS NYYYY bierma@nprdc.navy.mil Larry Bierma YYYYY birchall@pilot.njin.net Dan "Shag Aristotelis" Birchall YYYYY blanch@capella.cup.hp.com David O. 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Gile YYYYY glenm@tusc.oz.au Glen McCallum YYYYY glreno@afterlife.ncsc.mil Gerald Reno YYYYY gs005b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu Greg Sullivan NYYYY gwrepdoug@aol.com Douglas Blair YYYYY halw@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com hal work ----Y HD0022%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU Chip Dunham NNNNN hirsch@mathcs.emory.edu Michael Hirsch YYYYY imjerry@aol.com Jerry Rowe YYYYY jdl@wam.umd.edu Jonathan D. Loo --N-- jhodge1970@aol.com YYYYY joeh@netcom.com Joe Hayashi YYYYY johnm@cory.EECS.Berkeley.EDU John D. Mitchell YYYYY jrm@globalvillag.com John R. MacWilliamson NNNNN jwa@tellabs.com Jack Albert YYY-- knapp@sun490.fdu.edu Ralph Knapp YYYYY L15D@ZFN.uni-bremen.de Martin Schr"oder YYYYY lester@po.EECS.Berkeley.EDU Thomas E Lester YYYYY lovdahm@aa.wl.com Michael Lovdahl YYYY- LUCA@legacy.Calvin.EDU Philip R. Lucasse YYYYY matwood@peruvian.cs.utah.edu Mark Atwood YYYYY mikebaz@griffy.nmt.edu Michael C. Bazarewsky YYYYY mishel@lyra.hac.com Mishel Matloubian x6015 YYYYY mmt@RedBrick.COM Maxime Taksar NNNNN mullin@selway.umt.edu Christopher G. Mullin YYYYY narula@sun490.fdu.edu Ankush Narula YYYYY nefud-the-delirious@tamu.edu Allan Bailey YYYYY p-hurley1@tamu.edu Philip Hurley YYYYY parke@uselss.enet.dec.com William G. Parke III YYYYY quinn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU Michael Quinn YYYYY raykop@aol.com Ray Kopczynski YYYYY rbottomley@aol.com Robert A. Bottomley, Jr. YYYYY rbruce@panther.weeg.uiowa.edu William Kearney NNNNN revu@midway.uchicago.edu Sendhil Revuluri NYNNN rf@fil.fido.de Rudi Ferrari YYYYY RICH@unh.edu Richard Tomasso YYYYY rick@bcm.tmc.edu Richard Miller NYNYN rickm@pdn.paradyne.com Richard A. Mundwiler YYYYY rking@auspex.com Richard King YYYYY rms1@Ra.MsState.Edu Robert M. Stevens YYYYY rob@msc.cornell.edu Rob Vaughn NNNNN rturner@ruacad.ac.runet.edu Robert Turner YYYYY schweiger@aol.com YYYYY shaneh@netcom.com Shane Hartman YYNYN simard@afterlife.ncsc.mil Donald Simard YYYYY skouson@rchland.VNET.IBM.COM Gary Skouson YYYYY smarry@turing.toronto.edu Marc Moorcroft NNNNN solovay@netcom.com Andrew Solovay YYYYY srogers@tad.eds.com Steve Rogers YNNNN stainles@bga.com Dwight Brown NNNNN stewart@kandsw.demon.co.uk Stewart W Willsher YYYYY stumpf@cs.washington.edu Todd Stumpf YYYYY sward+@CMU.EDU David Reeve Sward NNNNN tanksley@vista.csusm.edu Billy Tanksley YYYYY thanatos@hyperion.wright.edu Terry Chlebek NNNNN thomas_haberland@solaris.oche.de Thomas Haberland YYYYY tinman@metheus.com David E. Tin Nyo YYYYY tomwachs@cs.tu-berlin.de Thomas Wachsmann YYYYY ttaggart@u.washington.edu THOMAS TAGGART YYYYY ulutas@eesun1.ee.ttu.edu Mustafa Ulutas YYYYY vogt@SSD.intel.com Larry Vogt YYYYY waltoml@WKUVX1.WKU.EDU Mike L. Walton YYYYY WARD@bert.van.forintek.ca Ward F. Bush NNNNN wardb@scico1.chchp.ac.nz Bruce Ward YYYYY wayne@bgs.com Wayne Garmil YYYYY wcbst4+@pitt.edu William C. Beegle YYYYY wilson@hsi.com John H. Wilson YYYYY wkearney@access.digex.net Bill Kearney NNNNN Yadallee%Gallif@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca Dave Shariff Yadallee YYYYY From jpatokal@alpha.hut.fi Thu Mar 6 09:23:05 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Jani Patokallio Reply-To: voting@hut.fi Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.geos,comp.os.msdos.pcgeos Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.os.geos reorganization Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <857663850.22202@isc.org> Supersedes: <856810135.862@isc.org> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Expires: 18 Mar 1997 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: comp.os.geos-reorg Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 15:57:30 GMT Lines: 185 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:158 LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) unmoderated group comp.os.geos.misc (renames comp.os.geos) unmoderated group comp.os.geos.programmer REMOVE comp.os.msdos.pcgeos (renamed to comp.os.geos.misc) Newsgroups line: comp.os.geos.misc GEOS O/S by Geoworks in general. comp.os.geos.programmer GEOS O/S Programming in general. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 17 Mar 1997. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Direct questions about the proposed group to the proponent. Do not distribute this CFV or the information contained in it in any form without the votetaker's permission. Proponent: Lee Grant Votetaker: Jani Patokallio RATIONALE: all groups Discussion of the GEOS operating system has taken place on the group comp.os.geos (and to a lesser extent on the now-obsolete group comp.os.msdos.pcgeos) for more than three years. In that time, PC's running GEOS-based environments such as Geoworks Ensemble and IBM SchoolView have been joined by word processors from Brother and Canon, palmtop pen computers from AST, Casio, Hewlett-Packard, Sharp and Tandy, recently introduced smart phones from Nokia and the recent announcement of republisher New Deal, Inc. with the desktop product known as New Deal Office. Numerous small software development firms and hobbyists have acquired GEOS software development tools, which are used to create all manner of cross-platform third-party software. Many third-party shareware programs have been distributed via the comp.binaries.geos newsgroup. Increased interest of GEOS development is reflected in the traffic on comp.os.geos and comp.os.msdos.pcgeos: A recent snapshot of comp.os.geos shows that of 280 posts, 140 made reference to code, drivers, GOC, ESP, the SDK, programming, or development. Ongoing threads on programming have thrived for months, and numerous users have expressed a desire for a distinct newsgroup dedicated to GEOS programming. RATIONALE: comp.os.geos.misc To facilitate the proliferation of the GEOS O/S, and the need to be able to expand the scope of the newsgroups to embrace the diversification that will no doubt follow; also to help maintain the organizational protocols of Usenet to organize newsgroups into a proper and maintainable heirarchy, it is neccessary to reorganize and rename the newsgroup known as comp.os.geos into a root newsgroup from which other GEOS O/S newsgroups may be created from. For this purpose comp.os.geos.misc is being proposed as that root from which all other GEOS O/S newsgroups may branch from. RATIONALE: comp.os.geos.programmer To better serve the users and the increasing numbers of programmers, third-party developers, content developers, international and beginning programmers of the GEOS O/S, the creation of comp.os.geos.programmer is being proposed. The group creation will enable discussions in both groups to carry content neccessary for the good of each respectively; to reduce traffic in the other; create a common meeting place for developers to discuss issues that are more technical in nature than the general user community may wish to see; to foster an open and cooperative group that allows developers in many countries to come together for the discussion of GEOS O/S development not available by any other means. CHARTER: comp.os.geos.programmer The newsgroup comp.os.geos.programmer will be dedicated to the discussion of software development for the GEOS operating system from Geoworks. Topics may include, but are not limited to, the structure of the GEOS operating system itself; the use of development tools for GEOS, including the Geoworks SDK (Software Development Kit), Geoworks Bindery, IZL (Interpreted Zoomer Language) from Feras Technologies, and additional tools as may be created by Geoworks or third-party programmers in the future; and the marketing and distribution of third-party software for GEOS as appropriate among software developers. This group is intended for developers, programmers, content authors, and others who create, or intend to create, software to run with the GEOS operating system to assist each other and share their knowledge and expertise. Prospective developers and other interested individuals are welcome to participate here. End-user discussion about GEOS software, products, and devices should appropriately take place in other comp.os.geos.* groups. END CHARTER. CHARTER: comp.os.geos.misc Comp.os.geos.misc is an unmoderated forum for general discussion of the GEOS operating system and related products from Geoworks (Alameda CA), their associated third-party development partners, and independent software vendors. GEOS is a pre-emptive multitasking, multithreading, object-oriented graphical operating system which runs on PC-compatible processors. All topics related to GEOS are welcome on comp.os.geos.misc, except those which have a more specific group (such as programming issues, which would use comp.os.geos.programmer). These include - but are not by any means limited to - Geoworks Ensemble 1.0, 1.2, and 2.0, Geoworks Pro, the Geoworks Personal Office Series, Geoworks Escape, Certified Software's utilities and games, America Online, the Tandy/Casio Zoomer palmtop and the applications being developed for it by Palm, Intuit, and others, configuration and performance-tuning of GEOS systems, bugs and "undocumented features," and announcement and discussion of new hardware and software products. END CHARTER. HOW TO VOTE: * Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before and after the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and "END OF BALLOT" lines. Don't worry about the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your reply inserts. 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When in doubt, ask the votetaker. -- Jani Patokallio Voting address: From jpatokal@alpha.hut.fi Tue Mar 18 08:30:06 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Jani Patokallio Reply-To: jpatokal@alpha.hut.fi Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.os.geos,comp.os.msdos.pcgeos Subject: RESULT: comp.os.geos reorganization all groups pass Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <858702306.16456@isc.org> Supersedes: <857663850.22202@isc.org> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Archive-Name: comp.os.geos-reorg Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 16:25:06 GMT Lines: 354 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:201 RESULT unmoderated group comp.os.geos.misc (renames comp.os.geos) passes 185:21 unmoderated group comp.os.geos.programmer passes 185:14 REMOVE comp.os.msdos.pcgeos (renamed to comp.os.geos.misc) passes 186:14 comp.os.geos reorg results - 210 valid votes Yes No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group ---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : ------------------------------------------- 185 21 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.os.geos.misc 185 14 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.os.geos.programmer 186 14 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.os.msdos.pcgeos 3 invalid votes Newsgroups lines: comp.os.geos.misc GEOS O/S by Geoworks in general. comp.os.geos.programmer GEOS O/S Programming in general. The voting period closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 17 Mar 1997. This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Direct questions about the proposed group to the proponent. Do not distribute this CFV or the information contained in it in any form without the votetaker's permission. Proponent: Lee Grant Votetaker: Jani Patokallio RATIONALE: all groups Discussion of the GEOS operating system has taken place on the group comp.os.geos (and to a lesser extent on the now-obsolete group comp.os.msdos.pcgeos) for more than three years. In that time, PC's running GEOS-based environments such as Geoworks Ensemble and IBM SchoolView have been joined by word processors from Brother and Canon, palmtop pen computers from AST, Casio, Hewlett-Packard, Sharp and Tandy, recently introduced smart phones from Nokia and the recent announcement of republisher New Deal, Inc. with the desktop product known as New Deal Office. Numerous small software development firms and hobbyists have acquired GEOS software development tools, which are used to create all manner of cross-platform third-party software. Many third-party shareware programs have been distributed via the comp.binaries.geos newsgroup. Increased interest of GEOS development is reflected in the traffic on comp.os.geos and comp.os.msdos.pcgeos: A recent snapshot of comp.os.geos shows that of 280 posts, 140 made reference to code, drivers, GOC, ESP, the SDK, programming, or development. Ongoing threads on programming have thrived for months, and numerous users have expressed a desire for a distinct newsgroup dedicated to GEOS programming. RATIONALE: comp.os.geos.misc To facilitate the proliferation of the GEOS O/S, and the need to be able to expand the scope of the newsgroups to embrace the diversification that will no doubt follow; also to help maintain the organizational protocols of Usenet to organize newsgroups into a proper and maintainable heirarchy, it is neccessary to reorganize and rename the newsgroup known as comp.os.geos into a root newsgroup from which other GEOS O/S newsgroups may be created from. For this purpose comp.os.geos.misc is being proposed as that root from which all other GEOS O/S newsgroups may branch from. RATIONALE: comp.os.geos.programmer To better serve the users and the increasing numbers of programmers, third-party developers, content developers, international and beginning programmers of the GEOS O/S, the creation of comp.os.geos.programmer is being proposed. The group creation will enable discussions in both groups to carry content neccessary for the good of each respectively; to reduce traffic in the other; create a common meeting place for developers to discuss issues that are more technical in nature than the general user community may wish to see; to foster an open and cooperative group that allows developers in many countries to come together for the discussion of GEOS O/S development not available by any other means. CHARTER: comp.os.geos.programmer The newsgroup comp.os.geos.programmer will be dedicated to the discussion of software development for the GEOS operating system from Geoworks. Topics may include, but are not limited to, the structure of the GEOS operating system itself; the use of development tools for GEOS, including the Geoworks SDK (Software Development Kit), Geoworks Bindery, IZL (Interpreted Zoomer Language) from Feras Technologies, and additional tools as may be created by Geoworks or third-party programmers in the future; and the marketing and distribution of third-party software for GEOS as appropriate among software developers. This group is intended for developers, programmers, content authors, and others who create, or intend to create, software to run with the GEOS operating system to assist each other and share their knowledge and expertise. Prospective developers and other interested individuals are welcome to participate here. End-user discussion about GEOS software, products, and devices should appropriately take place in other comp.os.geos.* groups. END CHARTER. CHARTER: comp.os.geos.misc Comp.os.geos.misc is an unmoderated forum for general discussion of the GEOS operating system and related products from Geoworks (Alameda CA), their associated third-party development partners, and independent software vendors. GEOS is a pre-emptive multitasking, multithreading, object-oriented graphical operating system which runs on PC-compatible processors. All topics related to GEOS are welcome on comp.os.geos.misc, except those which have a more specific group (such as programming issues, which would use comp.os.geos.programmer). These include - but are not by any means limited to - Geoworks Ensemble 1.0, 1.2, and 2.0, Geoworks Pro, the Geoworks Personal Office Series, Geoworks Escape, Certified Software's utilities and games, America Online, the Tandy/Casio Zoomer palmtop and the applications being developed for it by Palm, Intuit, and others, configuration and performance-tuning of GEOS systems, bugs and "undocumented features," and announcement and discussion of new hardware and software products. END CHARTER. comp.os.geos reorg Final Vote Ack comp.os.msdos.pcgeos -----+ comp.os.geos.programmer ----+| comp.os.geos.misc ---+|| ||| 70003.7001@compuserve.com James Bearden YYY 942576@bud.cc.swin.edu.au Keith Jason Uber YYY Adam_Ambrose@geoworks.com Adam Ambrose YYY Adam_de_Boor@geoworks.com Adam de Boor YYY afabbro@brokenarrow.us.itd.umich.edu Andrew Fabbro NNN alan@m-systems.com Alan Mace -Y- aleks@spoda.gentoo.com Brian Witt YYY Allen_Yuen@geoworks.com Allen Yuen YYY andrewb@nidlink.com Andrew YYN Andrew_Wilson@geoworks.com Andrew Wilson YYY Andy_Chiu@geoworks.com Andy Chiu YYY arielle@taronga.com Stephanie da Silva Y-- auyeung@aa.net Simon Auyeung YYY avatar@arkane.demon.co.uk Alistair J. R. Young Y-Y bcmc@sk.sympatico.ca Bill Chamney YYY bearcake@u.washington.edu Amy Hamilton YYY bedmonds@cs.ubc.ca Brian Edmonds Y-Y bjv@herbison.com B.J. Herbison Y-- bnt@luna.hbg.psu.edu T. N. Bui YYY boerrigt@hermes.fho-emden.de Gerd Boerrigter YYY booda@datasync.com Martin H. Booda NNN brian@grot.com Brian Smithson YYY Bruno.Beaufils@lifl.fr Bruno Beaufils YYY ByronC0141@aol.com Byron Collins YYY CamiLee@aol.com Lee W. Grant YYY Carter_Hachman@geoworks.com Carter Hachman YYY Cheryl_Burnell@geoworks.com Cheryl Burnell YYY Chris_Hawley-Ruppel@geoworks.com Chris Hawley-Ruppel YYY Chris_Thomas@geoworks.com Christopher Thomas YYY ClemensKo@aol.com Clemens Kochinke YYY cschoppe@nal.usda.gov Charles Schoppet YYY da0002@inst.medtronic.com Dennis G. Anderson YYY David_Litwin@geoworks.com David Litwin YYY dbarmit@nauticom.net D. Bruce Armitage YYY dennis.anderson@medtronic.com Dennis Anderson YYY Derick_Miller@geoworks.com Derick Miller YYY DerrickRe@aol.com Derrick Renaud YYY desj@ccr-p.ida.org David desJardins NNY dfitzpat@axionet.com Doug Fitzpatrick YYY dg@dcs.st-and.ac.uk David Given YYY dgrab@pathcom.com David Grabill NYY Doreen_DeSalvo@geoworks.com Doreen DeSalvo YYY doug-taylor+@osu.edu Doug Taylor YYY dtwo@sympatico.ca Dean Dancey YYY duane@hcc.Hawaii.Edu Duane E. Char YYY dvocat@datanetworks.ch Dominique Vocat YYY Edward_Ballot@geoworks.com Edward Ballot YYY edwdig@bergen.org Edward Di Geronimo Jr. YYY ehn@world.std.com Hope Ehn YYY erikaj@worldonline.nl Erik Wellner YYY Ernie_Chan@geoworks.com Ernie Chan YYY EuropaStag@aol.com YYY euthke@siam.muc.de Ekkehard Uthke YYY felinoid@ccnet.com Jeffery C McLean Y-- fellows@deltanet.com Bruce L. Fellows YYY finc27@pop.uni-dortmund.de Thomas Adams YYY flacy@nortel.ca Mark A. Flacy YYY Gad_Benett@geoworks.com Gad Benett YYY gaillard@panix.com Ed Gaillard NN- garonson@inferno.com Gregg Aronson YYY gilem@wsg.net Michael R. Gile YYY gludwig@enterprise.Dts.Harris.COM Greg Ludwig YYY goldarg@azstarnet.com Goldarg YYY gpr96002@uconnvm.uconn.edu G.P. Ryan NNN grbentz@easynet.on.ca Greg Bentz YYY GRBRK4245@aol.com Mike Anderson YYY grossibr@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de Jens-Michael Gross YYY GWRepDoug@aol.com DOUGLAS E. BLAIR YYY GWRepJohn@aol.com JOHN O. EZIKE YYY GWRepLynn@aol.com Lynn Montelauro YYY GWRepMark@aol.com Mark Rose YYY GWRepRay@aol.com Ray Kopczynski YYY GWRepTerry@aol.com Terry Morgan YY- GWRepZen@aol.com Mark Tenney YYY GWSteve@aol.com Steve Main YYY GWTomM@aol.com YYY HALL@lfderby.demon.co.uk Phil Hall YYN helmar@argo-navis.com Helmar Rudolph YYY hermit@cats.ucsc.edu Bill Ward NYN hf@ahn.pp.fi Helene Franzen YYY hh299@cleveland.Freenet.Edu Jim Baranovich --Y hirsch@mathcs.emory.edu Michael D. Hirsch YYY HOLGER.LAUX@bristol.ac.uk Holger Laux YYY Horzel@xs4all.nl Eric J.J. van Horssen YYY Ian_Porteous@geoworks.com Ian Porteous YYY iclark@infi.net Ivan Clark NY- Illini1970@aol.com John F. Howard YYY janus@cwo.com Keith Adams YYY Jason_Ho@geoworks.com Jason Ho YYY jdavis@cs.arizona.edu Jim Davis YYY jeb27@cam.ac.uk James Broughton NNY Jeff_Peterson@geoworks.com Jeff Peterson YYY Jenny_Greenwood@geoworks.com Jennifer Greenwood YYY Jeremy_Dashe@geoworks.com Jeremy Dashe YYY jernigan@cs.utk.edu Jeanetta Jernigan YYY Jerry@eteklabs.com YYY jesp@intercable.net Jesus Eugenio Sanchez YYY jhodge70@cris.com Joseph Hodge YYY Jhuey2@aol.com Jason Huey NYY jimmyc@ccrtc.com Jimmy D. Collins YYY Jim_Kirkpatrick@geoworks.com Jim Kirkpatrick YYY jks2557@is4.nyu.edu Joseph Shraibman YYN john@jjustin.com John Justin YYY johnm@non.net John Mitchell YYY John_Gardiner@geoworks.com John J. Gardiner YYY John_Mevissen@geoworks.com John Mevissen YYY John_Schiltz@geoworks.com John Schiltz YYY jonathan@telis.org Jonathan Eckman YYY Jon_Witort@geoworks.com Jon Witort YYY jouni.miettunen@ccc.fi Jouni Miettunen YYY jsantala@netti.fi Juha Santala YYY Keith_Mills_at_ALAMEDA@geoworks.com Keith Mills Y-Y Kenya_Tanaka@geoworks.com Kenya Tanaka YYY kertes@netcom.com Steve Kertes YYY kimdv@netcom.com Kim DeVaughn YYN kulpp2@rpi.edu Paul Kulp YYY kuo@bit.csc.lsu.edu Isaac Kuo NNN Larry_Warner@geoworks.com Lar Warner YYY lavonius@cc.helsinki.fi Ville Lavonius YYY Lawrence_Hosken@geoworks.com Lawrence Hosken YYY lcs@is-1.net.au EWEN BISHOP YYY lester@hkn.eecs.berkeley.edu Thomas Lester YYY louis_lao@geoworks.com Louis Lao YYY lusth@csnet.cs.ua.edu John Lusth YYY Mark_Bain@geoworks.com Mark Bain YYY marquez@pacbell.net Aaron Marquez NNN Mary_Ann_Joy@geoworks.com MaryAnn Joy YY- Matt_Armstrong@geoworks.com Matt Armstrong YYY Meriby_Sweet@geoworks.com Meriby Sweet YYY MGroeber@compuserve.com Marcus Groeber YYY mhatz@raven.phs.com Mike Hatz YYY michael.kirchner@lmco.com Michael Kirchner YYY Michael_Zern@geoworks.com Michael Zern YYY micheg@davinci.bergen.org Michael Hegedus YYY mikemp@cix.compulink.co.uk Mike Phillips. YYY minix@inet.net Warren H. Minix YYY mjforres@MailBox.Syr.Edu Maurice Forrester YYY mshaw@nortel.ca Mike Shaw YYY mullin@selway.umt.edu Christopher G. Mullin YYY Myung-Ryul_Steve_Jang@geoworks.com Myung-Ryul Steve Jang YYY naddy@mips.pfalz.de Christian Weisgerber --Y Nathan_Fiedler@geoworks.com Nathan Fiedler YYY NDMain@aol.com Sheri Johnston YYY nealk@ix.netcom.com Neal Katz YYY nick@cimio.co.uk Nick Waterman YYN nick@inferno.fc.hp.com Nick Ingegneri NNN offsite@crl.com Lee Bailey YYY oml1@Ra.MsState.Edu Owen Mackey Lagarde YYY p-hurley1@tamu.edu Philip Hurley YYY Pamela_Maycroft@geoworks.com Pam Maycroft YYY patl@lcs.mit.edu Patrick J. LoPresti NNY Patrick_Kerwan@geoworks.com Patrick Kerwan YYY Paul_Bock@geoworks.com Paul Bock YYY Paul_Canavese@geoworks.com Paul J. Canavese YYY paxil@cancom.net Trevor Tymchuk YYY pdallema@ensem.u-nancy.fr Philippe Dallemagne YY- Peter_Dudley@geoworks.com Peter Dudley YYY Peter_Hollingsworth@geoworks.com Peter Hollingsworth YYY Peter_Trinh@geoworks.com Peter L. Trinh YYY pilz@cs.tu-berlin.de Joerg Polzfusz Y-Y pud@VNET.IBM.COM Scott Prud'homme YYY pw@cacs.usl.edu Pirawat Watanapongse YYY pylgroms@worldonline.nl Pygroms A. YYY raymarsh@minn.net Ray Marshall YYY RCantrell@aol.com YYY rdong@internetMCI.com Rui-Tao Dong YYY rdpike@ix.netcom.com Ronald D. Pike YYY reno@smart.net Jerry Reno reno@smart.net YYY Reza_Hussein@geoworks.com Reza Hussein YYY rh30171@glo.be Peter Vanspauwen YYY RichRMoore@aol.com Richard R. Moore YYY richsong@vcn.bc.ca Richard Songhurst NNY rick@bcm.tmc.edu Richard Miller YYY rjr@bioc.rice.edu Ross J. Reedstrom YYY rkthomps@mail.wiscnet.net Robert K. Thompson YYY Robert.A.Bottomley.Jr@cdc.com Robert Bottomley NNY Robert_Hayes@geoworks.com Robert Hayes YYY rturner@runet.edu Robert Turner YYY Russell_Schulz@locutus.ofB.ORG Russell Schulz YYY rwurth@att.com R. T. Wurth N-- serendip@ao.net Joseph J. Shaughnessy YYY shag@emanon.net Dan Birchall YYY shaw89@intrex.net Jammie Shaw YYY sievers@smart.net Kenneth A. Sievers YYY sopshn@davinci.bergen.org Sophy Shnaper YYY srj@3com.com Scott R. 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