From streb@che.rochester.edu Tue Jun 17 17:15:04 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: streb@che.rochester.edu (Chuck Streb) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups Subject: RFD: comp.lang.labview Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <866592681.9970@isc.org> Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Archive-Name: comp.lang.labview Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 00:11:21 GMT Lines: 61 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:509 REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) unmoderated group comp.lang.labview This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a world-wide unmoderated Usenet newsgroup comp.lang.labview. This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details are below. Newsgroup line: comp.lang.labview Discussion of issues related to LabVIEW. RATIONALE: comp.lang.labview Labview is a computer language used in industry. It is a computer language. It is best placed under comp.lang.labview. END RATIONALE: CHARTER: comp.lang.labview comp.lang.labview main use will be for discussion about the LabVIEW language. It can include discussion about intrumentation, drivers and other information that is directly related to LabVIEW. The newsgroup is _not_ for the purpose of posting binaries, requesting binaries or advice on how to find binaries, personal ads or posts for the sole purpose of soliciting meetings, erotic fiction, or commercial advertisements, except as noted below. Off-topic messages, flames, and trolls are also not appropriate. Readers who use any information that appears in the newsgroup do so at their own risk. The copyright for all posts either remains with the poster, or in the public domain, as appropriate. END CHARTER. PROCEDURE: This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups should be raised and resolved. The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion warrants it. Please do not attempt to vote until this happens. All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups. This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal". Please refer to these documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any questions about the process. DISTRIBUTION: This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups: http://eatworms.swmed.edu/~labview/maillist/mailindex1.html because a group with this interest does not exist. Proponent: Chuck Streb From mcq@wco.com Tue Aug 5 08:15:08 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: mcq@wco.com (Rebecca McQuitty) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups Subject: CFV: comp.lang.labview Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <870792437.27405@isc.org> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Expires: 27 Aug 1997 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: comp.lang.labview Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 14:47:17 GMT Lines: 164 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:646 FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) unmoderated group comp.lang.labview Newsgroups line: comp.lang.labview Labview Software Discussion Group. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 26 Aug 1997. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Chuck Streb Votetaker: Rebecca McQuitty RATIONALE: comp.lang.labview The manufactuer of the product LabVIEW is National Instruments located at http://www.natinst.com. LabVIEW is a product used by many people all over the world. Here is a list of National Instuments Alliance Members which support LabVIEW and National Instruments. The Alliance Members are usually engineering consultants for the general LabVIEW population. This list is located here: http://digital.natinst.com/alliance.nsf Currently the only good way to communicate or discuss information about the LabVIEW product is via a mail-server which can be viewed at http://eatworms.swmed.edu/~labview/maillist/mailindex1.html As can be seen in this group, There is alot of traffic in regard to LabVIEW. Many people in this mail-list support a group for LabVIEW. If a group existed many LabVIEW programmers would have the ability to search through information in the group.Currently, there is a seven year archive of this mail-server at ftp://ftp.pica.army.mil/pub/labview/list-archives I would not like to see this kind of information be unavailable to the thousands of LabVIEW programmers. Labview (A National Instruments Product) has become a programming language that supports the Largest Data Acquisition Company in the World, National Instruments. And the information stockpile needs to available and searchable. One source of information is not prudent given the importants of the discussions people have about LabVIEW. Please do not post information about the group comp.lang.labview to the Info-Labview Mail Server. The Info-Labview List Maintainer has made it clear that he does not want the discussion of comp.lang.labview on his mail-server to occur. CHARTER: comp.lang.labview Comp.lang.labview main use will be for discussion about the LabVIEW language. It can include discussion about intrumentation, drivers and other information that is directly related to LabVIEW. The newsgroup is _not_ for the purpose of posting binaries, requesting binaries or advice on how to find binaries, personal ads or posts for the sole purpose of soliciting meetings, erotic fiction, or commercial advertisements, except as noted below. Off-topic messages, flames, and trolls are also not appropriate. Readers who use any information that appears in the newsgroup do so at their own risk. The copyright for all posts either remains with the poster, or in the public domain, as appropriate. END CHARTER. IMPORTANT VOTING INFORMATION: Standard Guidelines for voting apply. One vote per person, one vote per account. Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker. Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid. Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered anonymous votes. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results post. Duplicate votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote. The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup. Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose. Please do *not* distribute this CFV; instead, direct people to the official CFV posted to news.announce.newgroups. Distributing pre-marked, incomplete, or otherwise edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud. When in doubt, ask the votetaker. HOW TO VOTE: Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and after the "END OF BALLOT" lines. Please do *not* send the entire CFV back to me! Don't worry about the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your software inserts. Provide your real name on the line that asks for it, and indicate your vote in the brackets beside the group name. Valid votes are YES, NO, ABSTAIN, and CANCEL. Examples of how to properly indicate your vote (do not vote here): [ YES ] example.vote.yes [ NO ] example.vote.no [ ABSTAIN ] example.abstention [ CANCEL ] example.cancellation Do *not* modify, alter or delete any other information in this ballot. Vote counting is automated, and failure to follow these instructions means the software may reject your ballot. When you're finished, mail the ballot to . Just "replying" to this message should work, but check the "To:" line. If you ordinarily use a spam block, please delete it and use a valid address to vote. If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days, contact the votetaker about the problem. You are responsible for reading your ack and making sure your vote is registered correctly. -=-=-=-BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete Everything Before This Line=-=-=-=- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Usenet Ballot: comp.lang.labview This ballot is distributed blank in a Call for Votes | Leave this posted to news.announce.newgroups or mailed from the | marker here: votetaker. Other ballots may be rejected. | Give your real name on the next line (do not give your email address). Your name --> [Your Vote] Group (Place your vote in the empty brackets below.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [ ] comp.lang.labview ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -=-=-=-=-=-END OF BALLOT: Delete Everything After This Line-=-=-=-=-=- DISTRIBUTION This CFV has been posted to the following newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups news.groups and is available by e-mail from the votetaker. A pointer directing readers to this CFV will be placed at the following site: -- Rebecca Graham McQuitty From mcq@wco.com Tue Aug 5 08:15:25 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: mcq@wco.com (Rebecca McQuitty) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups Subject: CFV: comp.lang.labview Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <870792997.27450@isc.org> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Expires: 27 Aug 1997 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: comp.lang.labview Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 14:56:37 GMT Lines: 164 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:651 FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) unmoderated group comp.lang.labview Newsgroups line: comp.lang.labview Labview Software Discussion Group. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 26 Aug 1997. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Chuck Streb Votetaker: Rebecca McQuitty RATIONALE: comp.lang.labview The manufactuer of the product LabVIEW is National Instruments located at http://www.natinst.com. LabVIEW is a product used by many people all over the world. Here is a list of National Instuments Alliance Members which support LabVIEW and National Instruments. The Alliance Members are usually engineering consultants for the general LabVIEW population. This list is located here: http://digital.natinst.com/alliance.nsf Currently the only good way to communicate or discuss information about the LabVIEW product is via a mail-server which can be viewed at http://eatworms.swmed.edu/~labview/maillist/mailindex1.html As can be seen in this group, There is alot of traffic in regard to LabVIEW. Many people in this mail-list support a group for LabVIEW. If a group existed many LabVIEW programmers would have the ability to search through information in the group.Currently, there is a seven year archive of this mail-server at ftp://ftp.pica.army.mil/pub/labview/list-archives I would not like to see this kind of information be unavailable to the thousands of LabVIEW programmers. Labview (A National Instruments Product) has become a programming language that supports the Largest Data Acquisition Company in the World, National Instruments. And the information stockpile needs to available and searchable. One source of information is not prudent given the importants of the discussions people have about LabVIEW. Please do not post information about the group comp.lang.labview to the Info-Labview Mail Server. The Info-Labview List Maintainer has made it clear that he does not want the discussion of comp.lang.labview on his mail-server to occur. CHARTER: comp.lang.labview Comp.lang.labview main use will be for discussion about the LabVIEW language. It can include discussion about intrumentation, drivers and other information that is directly related to LabVIEW. The newsgroup is _not_ for the purpose of posting binaries, requesting binaries or advice on how to find binaries, personal ads or posts for the sole purpose of soliciting meetings, erotic fiction, or commercial advertisements, except as noted below. Off-topic messages, flames, and trolls are also not appropriate. Readers who use any information that appears in the newsgroup do so at their own risk. The copyright for all posts either remains with the poster, or in the public domain, as appropriate. END CHARTER. IMPORTANT VOTING INFORMATION: Standard Guidelines for voting apply. One vote per person, one vote per account. Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker. Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid. Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered anonymous votes. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results post. Duplicate votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote. The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup. Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose. Please do *not* distribute this CFV; instead, direct people to the official CFV posted to news.announce.newgroups. Distributing pre-marked, incomplete, or otherwise edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud. When in doubt, ask the votetaker. HOW TO VOTE: Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and after the "END OF BALLOT" lines. Please do *not* send the entire CFV back to me! Don't worry about the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your software inserts. Provide your real name on the line that asks for it, and indicate your vote in the brackets beside the group name. Valid votes are YES, NO, ABSTAIN, and CANCEL. Examples of how to properly indicate your vote (do not vote here): [ YES ] example.vote.yes [ NO ] example.vote.no [ ABSTAIN ] example.abstention [ CANCEL ] example.cancellation Do *not* modify, alter or delete any other information in this ballot. Vote counting is automated, and failure to follow these instructions means the software may reject your ballot. When you're finished, mail the ballot to . Just "replying" to this message should work, but check the "To:" line. If you ordinarily use a spam block, please delete it and use a valid address to vote. If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days, contact the votetaker about the problem. You are responsible for reading your ack and making sure your vote is registered correctly. -=-=-=-BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete Everything Before This Line=-=-=-=- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Usenet Ballot: comp.lang.labview This ballot is distributed blank in a Call for Votes | Leave this posted to news.announce.newgroups or mailed from the | marker here: votetaker. Other ballots may be rejected. | Give your real name on the next line (do not give your email address). Your name --> [Your Vote] Group (Place your vote in the empty brackets below.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [ ] comp.lang.labview ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -=-=-=-=-=-END OF BALLOT: Delete Everything After This Line-=-=-=-=-=- DISTRIBUTION This CFV has been posted to the following newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups news.groups and is available by e-mail from the votetaker. A pointer directing readers to this CFV will be placed at the following site: -- Rebecca Graham McQuitty From mcq@wco.com Tue Aug 5 08:30:14 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: mcq@wco.com (Rebecca McQuitty) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups Subject: CFV: comp.lang.labview Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <870794933.27746@isc.org> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Expires: 27 Aug 1997 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: comp.lang.labview Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 15:28:53 GMT Lines: 164 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:656 FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) unmoderated group comp.lang.labview Newsgroups line: comp.lang.labview Labview Software Discussion Group. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 26 Aug 1997. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Chuck Streb Votetaker: Rebecca McQuitty RATIONALE: comp.lang.labview The manufactuer of the product LabVIEW is National Instruments located at http://www.natinst.com. LabVIEW is a product used by many people all over the world. Here is a list of National Instuments Alliance Members which support LabVIEW and National Instruments. The Alliance Members are usually engineering consultants for the general LabVIEW population. This list is located here: http://digital.natinst.com/alliance.nsf Currently the only good way to communicate or discuss information about the LabVIEW product is via a mail-server which can be viewed at http://eatworms.swmed.edu/~labview/maillist/mailindex1.html As can be seen in this group, There is alot of traffic in regard to LabVIEW. Many people in this mail-list support a group for LabVIEW. If a group existed many LabVIEW programmers would have the ability to search through information in the group.Currently, there is a seven year archive of this mail-server at ftp://ftp.pica.army.mil/pub/labview/list-archives I would not like to see this kind of information be unavailable to the thousands of LabVIEW programmers. Labview (A National Instruments Product) has become a programming language that supports the Largest Data Acquisition Company in the World, National Instruments. And the information stockpile needs to available and searchable. One source of information is not prudent given the importants of the discussions people have about LabVIEW. Please do not post information about the group comp.lang.labview to the Info-Labview Mail Server. The Info-Labview List Maintainer has made it clear that he does not want the discussion of comp.lang.labview on his mail-server to occur. CHARTER: comp.lang.labview Comp.lang.labview main use will be for discussion about the LabVIEW language. It can include discussion about intrumentation, drivers and other information that is directly related to LabVIEW. The newsgroup is _not_ for the purpose of posting binaries, requesting binaries or advice on how to find binaries, personal ads or posts for the sole purpose of soliciting meetings, erotic fiction, or commercial advertisements, except as noted below. Off-topic messages, flames, and trolls are also not appropriate. Readers who use any information that appears in the newsgroup do so at their own risk. The copyright for all posts either remains with the poster, or in the public domain, as appropriate. END CHARTER. IMPORTANT VOTING INFORMATION: Standard Guidelines for voting apply. One vote per person, one vote per account. Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker. Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid. Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered anonymous votes. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results post. Duplicate votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote. The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup. Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose. Please do *not* distribute this CFV; instead, direct people to the official CFV posted to news.announce.newgroups. Distributing pre-marked, incomplete, or otherwise edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud. When in doubt, ask the votetaker. HOW TO VOTE: Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and after the "END OF BALLOT" lines. Please do *not* send the entire CFV back to me! Don't worry about the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your software inserts. Provide your real name on the line that asks for it, and indicate your vote in the brackets beside the group name. Valid votes are YES, NO, ABSTAIN, and CANCEL. Examples of how to properly indicate your vote (do not vote here): [ YES ] example.vote.yes [ NO ] example.vote.no [ ABSTAIN ] example.abstention [ CANCEL ] example.cancellation Do *not* modify, alter or delete any other information in this ballot. Vote counting is automated, and failure to follow these instructions means the software may reject your ballot. When you're finished, mail the ballot to . Just "replying" to this message should work, but check the "To:" line. If you ordinarily use a spam block, please delete it and use a valid address to vote. If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days, contact the votetaker about the problem. You are responsible for reading your ack and making sure your vote is registered correctly. -=-=-=-BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete Everything Before This Line=-=-=-=- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Usenet Ballot: comp.lang.labview This ballot is distributed blank in a Call for Votes | Leave this posted to news.announce.newgroups or mailed from the | marker here: votetaker. Other ballots may be rejected. | Give your real name on the next line (do not give your email address). Your name --> [Your Vote] Group (Place your vote in the empty brackets below.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [ ] comp.lang.labview ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -=-=-=-=-=-END OF BALLOT: Delete Everything After This Line-=-=-=-=-=- DISTRIBUTION This CFV has been posted to the following newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups news.groups and is available by e-mail from the votetaker. A pointer directing readers to this CFV will be placed at the following site: -- Rebecca Graham McQuitty From mcq@wco.com Tue Aug 5 10:09:09 1997 Control: cancel Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: mcq@wco.com (Rebecca McQuitty) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups Subject: cmsg cancel Followup-To: poster Message-ID: Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Expires: 27 Aug 1997 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: comp.lang.labview Date: 05 Aug 97 17:09:07 GMT Lines: 2 Xref: news.isc.org control.cancel:237 Unapproved article for news.announce.newgroups auto-cancelled by daemon on behalf of moderator. From mcq@wco.com Tue Aug 5 10:09:07 1997 Control: cancel <870792997.27450@isc.org> Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: mcq@wco.com (Rebecca McQuitty) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups Subject: cmsg cancel <870792997.27450@isc.org> Followup-To: poster Message-ID: Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: tale@pub1.bryant.vix.com Expires: 27 Aug 1997 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: comp.lang.labview Date: 05 Aug 97 17:09:03 GMT Lines: 1 Xref: news.isc.org control.cancel:230 Article cancelled by tale@pub1.bryant.vix.com. From mcq@wco.com Tue Aug 5 10:09:10 1997 Control: cancel Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: mcq@wco.com (Rebecca McQuitty) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups Subject: cmsg cancel Followup-To: poster Message-ID: Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Expires: 27 Aug 1997 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: comp.lang.labview Date: 05 Aug 97 17:09:07 GMT Lines: 2 Xref: news.isc.org control.cancel:240 Unapproved article for news.announce.newgroups auto-cancelled by daemon on behalf of moderator. From mcq@wco.com Tue Aug 5 10:09:06 1997 Control: cancel <870792437.27405@isc.org> Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: mcq@wco.com (Rebecca McQuitty) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups Subject: cmsg cancel <870792437.27405@isc.org> Followup-To: poster Message-ID: Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: tale@pub1.bryant.vix.com Expires: 27 Aug 1997 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: comp.lang.labview Date: 05 Aug 97 17:09:03 GMT Lines: 1 Xref: news.isc.org control.cancel:229 Article cancelled by tale@pub1.bryant.vix.com. From mcq@wco.com Thu Aug 14 02:15:05 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: mcq@wco.com (Rebecca McQuitty) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.lang.labview Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <871549749.18298@isc.org> Supersedes: <870792437.27405@isc.org> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Expires: 27 Aug 1997 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: comp.lang.labview Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 09:09:09 GMT Lines: 164 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:683 LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) unmoderated group comp.lang.labview Newsgroups line: comp.lang.labview Labview Software Discussion Group. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 26 Aug 1997. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Chuck Streb Votetaker: Rebecca McQuitty RATIONALE: comp.lang.labview The manufactuer of the product LabVIEW is National Instruments located at http://www.natinst.com. LabVIEW is a product used by many people all over the world. Here is a list of National Instuments Alliance Members which support LabVIEW and National Instruments. The Alliance Members are usually engineering consultants for the general LabVIEW population. This list is located here: http://digital.natinst.com/alliance.nsf Currently the only good way to communicate or discuss information about the LabVIEW product is via a mail-server which can be viewed at http://eatworms.swmed.edu/~labview/maillist/mailindex1.html As can be seen in this group, There is alot of traffic in regard to LabVIEW. Many people in this mail-list support a group for LabVIEW. If a group existed many LabVIEW programmers would have the ability to search through information in the group.Currently, there is a seven year archive of this mail-server at ftp://ftp.pica.army.mil/pub/labview/list-archives I would not like to see this kind of information be unavailable to the thousands of LabVIEW programmers. Labview (A National Instruments Product) has become a programming language that supports the Largest Data Acquisition Company in the World, National Instruments. And the information stockpile needs to available and searchable. One source of information is not prudent given the importants of the discussions people have about LabVIEW. Please do not post information about the group comp.lang.labview to the Info-Labview Mail Server. The Info-Labview List Maintainer has made it clear that he does not want the discussion of comp.lang.labview on his mail-server to occur. CHARTER: comp.lang.labview Comp.lang.labview main use will be for discussion about the LabVIEW language. It can include discussion about intrumentation, drivers and other information that is directly related to LabVIEW. The newsgroup is _not_ for the purpose of posting binaries, requesting binaries or advice on how to find binaries, personal ads or posts for the sole purpose of soliciting meetings, erotic fiction, or commercial advertisements, except as noted below. Off-topic messages, flames, and trolls are also not appropriate. Readers who use any information that appears in the newsgroup do so at their own risk. The copyright for all posts either remains with the poster, or in the public domain, as appropriate. END CHARTER. IMPORTANT VOTING INFORMATION: Standard Guidelines for voting apply. One vote per person, one vote per account. Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker. Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid. Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered anonymous votes. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results post. Duplicate votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote. The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup. Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose. Please do *not* distribute this CFV; instead, direct people to the official CFV posted to news.announce.newgroups. Distributing pre-marked, incomplete, or otherwise edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud. When in doubt, ask the votetaker. HOW TO VOTE: Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and after the "END OF BALLOT" lines. Please do *not* send the entire CFV back to me! Don't worry about the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your software inserts. Provide your real name on the line that asks for it, and indicate your vote in the brackets beside the group name. Valid votes are YES, NO, ABSTAIN, and CANCEL. Examples of how to properly indicate your vote (do not vote here): [ YES ] example.vote.yes [ NO ] example.vote.no [ ABSTAIN ] example.abstention [ CANCEL ] example.cancellation Do *not* modify, alter or delete any other information in this ballot. Vote counting is automated, and failure to follow these instructions means the software may reject your ballot. When you're finished, mail the ballot to . Just "replying" to this message should work, but check the "To:" line. If you ordinarily use a spam block, please delete it and use a valid address to vote. If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days, contact the votetaker about the problem. You are responsible for reading your ack and making sure your vote is registered correctly. -=-=-=-BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete Everything Before This Line=-=-=-=- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Usenet Ballot: comp.lang.labview This ballot is distributed blank in a Call for Votes | Leave this posted to news.announce.newgroups or mailed from the | marker here: votetaker. Other ballots may be rejected. | Give your real name on the next line (do not give your email address). Your name --> [Your Vote] Group (Place your vote in the empty brackets below.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [ ] comp.lang.labview ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -=-=-=-=-=-END OF BALLOT: Delete Everything After This Line-=-=-=-=-=- DISTRIBUTION This CFV has been posted to the following newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups news.groups and is available by e-mail from the votetaker. A pointer directing readers to this CFV will be placed at the following site: -- Rebecca Graham McQuitty From mcq@wco.com Tue Aug 26 21:45:09 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: mcq@wco.com (Rebecca McQuitty) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups Subject: RESULT: comp.lang.labview fails 74:23 Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <872657034.12616@isc.org> Supersedes: <871549749.18298@isc.org> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Archive-Name: comp.lang.labview Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 04:43:54 GMT Lines: 200 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:716 RESULT unmoderated group comp.lang.labview fails 74:23 There were 74 YES votes and 23 NO votes, for a total of 97 valid votes. There was 1 abstain. For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO) votes. There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted. Unless serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the group may not be voted on again for six months. Newsgroups line: comp.lang.labview Labview Software Discussion Group. The voting period closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 26 Aug 1997. This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Chuck Streb Votetaker: Rebecca McQuitty RATIONALE: comp.lang.labview The manufactuer of the product LabVIEW is National Instruments located at http://www.natinst.com. LabVIEW is a product used by many people all over the world. Here is a list of National Instuments Alliance Members which support LabVIEW and National Instruments. The Alliance Members are usually engineering consultants for the general LabVIEW population. This list is located here: http://digital.natinst.com/alliance.nsf Currently the only good way to communicate or discuss information about the LabVIEW product is via a mail-server which can be viewed at http://eatworms.swmed.edu/~labview/maillist/mailindex1.html As can be seen in this group, There is alot of traffic in regard to LabVIEW. Many people in this mail-list support a group for LabVIEW. If a group existed many LabVIEW programmers would have the ability to search through information in the group.Currently, there is a seven year archive of this mail-server at ftp://ftp.pica.army.mil/pub/labview/list-archives I would not like to see this kind of information be unavailable to the thousands of LabVIEW programmers. Labview (A National Instruments Product) has become a programming language that supports the Largest Data Acquisition Company in the World, National Instruments. And the information stockpile needs to available and searchable. One source of information is not prudent given the importants of the discussions people have about LabVIEW. Please do not post information about the group comp.lang.labview to the Info-Labview Mail Server. The Info-Labview List Maintainer has made it clear that he does not want the discussion of comp.lang.labview on his mail-server to occur. CHARTER: comp.lang.labview Comp.lang.labview main use will be for discussion about the LabVIEW language. It can include discussion about intrumentation, drivers and other information that is directly related to LabVIEW. The newsgroup is _not_ for the purpose of posting binaries, requesting binaries or advice on how to find binaries, personal ads or posts for the sole purpose of soliciting meetings, erotic fiction, or commercial advertisements, except as noted below. Off-topic messages, flames, and trolls are also not appropriate. Readers who use any information that appears in the newsgroup do so at their own risk. The copyright for all posts either remains with the poster, or in the public domain, as appropriate. END CHARTER. comp.lang.labview Final Vote Ack Voted Yes ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- a.pfaller@pop.gun.de Andreas Pfaller atala@squid.umd.edu Pita Atala aym@senet.com.au Ashley Martin balloon@eraserco.demon.co.uk Malcolm Loades banerian@scn.org Stefani Banerian basogard@worldnet.att.net Brian Sogard bladerunner@acsis.com Allen C. Smith blair@gps.caltech.edu Blair Zajac BLBPersEng@aol.com Brian Lloyd Bishop BOWLER@Eisner.DECUS.Org Bruce Bowler Bruce.McKibben@fi.uib.no Bruce McKibben Charles.Harnden-1@pp.ksc.nasa.gov Harnden, Charles W chris@vineries.demon.co.uk Chris Watts. chriseb@nortel.ca Chris Ebenezer coffelt@ssdd.nrl.navy.mil David Coffelt coleman@leland.Stanford.EDU Michele Coleman collins@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu Bernard Collins dannyp@sky.net Danny Porter djb@viewpointusa.com Dan Blasdell dms@viewpointusa.com David M Smith Doug@viewpointusa.com Douglas A. Femec dvisnovs@rdisoft.com David Visnovsky eas@viewpointusa.com Edward A. Snyder fcarey@schafercorp.com Frank C. Carey fenergy@aol.com Brian M. Desmond FGenett@Juno.com Fred Genett fon@iinet.net.au Adrian Smith, ICON Technologies, Australia George.Berry-1@pp.ksc.nasa.gov Paul Berry GLGESM@engr.psu.edu Gary L. Gray goekegs@cat.com G. Scott Goeken gyaconi@rdisoft.com George Yaconi i.o.clark@larc.nasa.gov Ivan Clark jac@viewpointusa.com Jim Campbell jacc@netcom.com Jonathan Colby jayhawk@n2.net Andrew Russell jcfooks@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca Jeanette Fooks jdg@but-i-dont-like-spam.boxmail.com John David Galt jenkner@biochem.mpg.de Martin Jenkner jhowat@kcbbs.gen.nz Jason Howat jim.fulmele@lmco.com Jim Fulmele JimC@ATE-Solutions.com Instrumentation Engineering, Inc. jpc@drum.msfc.nasa.gov J. Porter Clark julesd@fwb.gulf.net Jules Dubois jworthey@nist.gov James A. Worthey kroger@ucla.edu Jim Kroger kry@viewpointusa.com K R Young kurpatj@comsoft.de Klaus-Dieter Leyhr mallory@west.net Walter Mallory mbarreto@lpm2.fee.unicamp.br Gustavo Covizzi Menna Barreto Alonso msoysal@mistik.express.net Mustafa Soysal MS57 nmellen@ucla.edu Nicholas M. Mellen p.gurney@ee.mu.oz.au Phil Gurney paxil@inorth.on.ca Trevor Tymchuk per.sandhaland@hsh.no Per Ove Sandhaaland pheonix@MIT.EDU Bilal Bhutta racronkite@hrl.com Robert Cronkite rich@warwick.net Richard Swenson rufinus@e-math.ams.org J Rufinus sabu@best.com Robert W. Weiman sfennell@uiuc.edu Steve Fennell Socratis@VanEg1.ecs.UMass.edu Kalogrianitis Socratis srm@viewpointusa.com Stuart R. McFarlane stamper@stamper.com Chris Stamper stanglmj@iname.com Mark J. Stangl streb@che.rochester.edu Chuck Streb vanguard@mail.utexas.edu Jason Dick ver@viewpointusa.com Vincent Recca vpdura@hiwaay.net Vic Dura w2jc@BellAtlantic.net Jim Cooper wayne@eatworms.swmed.edu wayne davis Will.Maynard@gsfc.nasa.gov William L. Maynard williamw@Exabyte.COM William Widener wright@ar.lmco.com Michael Wright zed@cjnetworks.com Ned Fleming Voted No ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- booda@datasync.com Martin H. Booda chuckhoffmann@mindspring.com Chuck Hoffmann cipher@mindspring.com David A. Howard djed@juno.com Geronimo Mockingbird Eric=Seynaeve%VSM%FYS@vinip.cc.kuleuven.ac.be Eric Seynaeve euthke@siam.muc.de Ekkehard Uthke gpr96002@uconnvm.uconn.edu G.P. Ryan jesp@intercable.net Jesus Eugenio Sanchez markhl@prodigy.net Mark A. Hanning-Lee marquez@pacbell.net Aaron Marquez nick@cimio.co.uk Nick Waterman olav@viking.mv.com Olav Nieuwejaar patl@lcs.mit.edu Patrick J. LoPresti Paul.Bernhardt@m.cc.utah.edu Paul Bernhardt red@rahul.net Ivan Vasilovich rick@bcm.tmc.edu Richard Miller robertb@iea.com Bob Blanchard stainles@bga.com Dwight Brown steiners@primenet.com Jason Steiner tlawson@amug.org Todd C. Lawson Ulli.Raschke@t-online.de Ullrich Raschke wakelyn@pinn.net N.T. Wakelyn widenius@ling.helsinki.fi Risto Widenius Abstained ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- johnsold@muohio.edu Lynn D. Johnson -- Rebecca Graham McQuitty From CAS@viewpointusa.com Tue Mar 17 22:45:12 1998 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: "Chuck A. Streb" Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.software.measurement,sci.electronics.design Subject: RFD: comp.lang.labview Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <890202790.25737@isc.org> Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Archive-Name: comp.lang.labview Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 06:33:10 GMT Lines: 107 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:9865 news.groups:275131 comp.software.measurement:1469 sci.electronics.design:43418 REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) unmoderated group comp.lang.labview This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a world-wide unmoderated Usenet newsgroup comp.lang.labview. This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details are below. Newsgroup line: comp.lang.labview Discussion of issues related to LabVIEW. RATIONALE: comp.lang.labview Labview is a computer language used in industry. It is a computer language designed for instrumentation. It is best placed under comp.lang.labview. The manufactuer of the product LabVIEW is National Instruments located at http://www.natinst.com. LabVIEW is a product used by many people all over the world. Here is a list of National Instuments Alliance Members which support LabVIEW and National Instruments. The Alliance Members are usually engineering consultants for the general LabVIEW population. This list is located here: http://digital.natinst.com/alliance.nsf Currently the only good way to communicate or discuss information about the LabVIEW product is via a mail-server which can be viewed at http://eatworms.swmed.edu/~labview/maillist/mailindex1.html As can be seen in this group, There is alot of traffic in regard to LabVIEW as many as 50 responses a day. Many people in this mail-list support a group for LabVIEW. If a group existed many LabVIEW programmers would have the ability to search through information in the group.Currently, there is a seven year archive of this mail-server at ftp://ftp.pica.army.mil/pub/labview/list-archives I would not like to see this kind of information be unavailable to the thousands of LabVIEW programmers. Labview(A National Instruments Product) has become a programming language that supports the Largest Data Acquisition Company in the World, National Instruments. And the information stockpile needs to available and searchable. One source of information is not prudent given the importants of the discussions people have about LabVIEW. CHARTER: comp.lang.labview comp.lang.labview main use will be for discussion about the LabVIEW language. It can include discussion about intrumentation, drivers and other information that is directly related to LabVIEW. The newsgroup is _not_ for the purpose of posting binaries, requesting binaries or advice on how to find binaries, personal ads or posts for the sole purpose of soliciting meetings, erotic fiction, or commercial advertisements, except as noted below. Off-topic messages, flames, and trolls are also not appropriate. Readers who use any information that appears in the newsgroup do so at their own risk. The copyright for all posts either remains with the poster, or in the public domain, as appropriate. END CHARTER. PROCEDURE: This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups should be raised and resolved. The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion warrants it. Please do not attempt to vote until this happens. All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups. This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal". Please refer to these documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any questions about the process. DISTRIBUTION: This RFD has been posted to the following: webpage: http://eatworms.swmed.edu/~labview/maillist/mailindex1.html newsgroups: comp.software.measure sci.electronics.design mailserver: alliance@natinst.com labview-info@viewpointusa.com Proponent: Chuck Streb From dave@dogwood.com Sun Apr 26 21:45:22 1998 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Dave Cornejo Reply-To: vote@dogwood.com Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.software.measurement,sci.electronics.design Subject: CFV: comp.lang.labview Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <893652220.23955@isc.org> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Expires: 19 May 1998 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: comp.lang.labview Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 04:43:40 GMT Lines: 153 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:9986 news.groups:279906 comp.software.measurement:1608 sci.electronics.design:46930 FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) unmoderated group comp.lang.labview Newsgroups line: comp.lang.labview Labview Software Discussion Group. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 18 May 1998. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Chuck Streb Votetaker: Dave Cornejo RATIONALE: comp.lang.labview Labview is a computer language used in industry. It is a computer language designed for instrumentation. It is best placed under comp.lang.labview. The manufactuer of the product LabVIEW is National Instruments located at http://www.natinst.com. LabVIEW is a product used by many people all over the world. Here is a list of National Instuments Alliance Members which support LabVIEW and National Instruments. The Alliance Members are usually engineering consultants for the general LabVIEW population. This list is located here: http://digital.natinst.com/alliance.nsf Currently the only good way to communicate or discuss information about the LabVIEW product is via a mail-server which can be viewed at http://eatworms.swmed.edu/~labview/maillist/mailindex1.html As can be seen in this group, There is alot of traffic in regard to LabVIEW as many as 50 responses a day. Many people in this mail-list support a group for LabVIEW. If a group existed many LabVIEW programmers would have the ability to search through information in the group.Currently, there is a seven year archive of this mail-server at ftp://ftp.pica.army.mil/pub/labview/list-archives I would not like to see this kind of information be unavailable to the thousands of LabVIEW programmers. Labview (a National Instruments Product) has become a programming language that supports the Largest Data Acquisition Company in the World, National Instruments. And the information stockpile needs to available and searchable. One source of information is not prudent given the importants of the discussions people have about LabVIEW. CHARTER: comp.lang.labview Comp.lang.labview main use will be for discussion about the LabVIEW language. It can include discussion about intrumentation, drivers and other information that is directly related to LabVIEW. The newsgroup is _not_ for the purpose of posting binaries, requesting binaries or advice on how to find binaries, personal ads or posts for the sole purpose of soliciting meetings, erotic fiction, or commercial advertisements, except as noted below. Off-topic messages, flames, and trolls are also not appropriate. Readers who use any information that appears in the newsgroup do so at their own risk. The copyright for all posts either remains with the poster, or in the public domain, as appropriate. END CHARTER. HOW TO VOTE: Follow these instructions *exactly*! Votes are counted by computer. You should send E-MAIL (posts to a newsgroup are invalid) to: vote@dogwood.com Please do not assume that just replying to this message will work. Check the address before you mail your vote. Your mail message should contain one and only one of the following vote statements: I vote YES on comp.lang.labview I vote NO on comp.lang.labview Voter name: If your mail software does not indicate your real name (for example, AOL does not), include _exactly_ the statement above on a _separate_ line and add your name after the colon. Having your name in your signature line is NOT enough! Do NOT join the lines together or remove the words "Voter name"! You may also vote ABSTAIN (which records an empty vote) or CANCEL (which removes any earlier votes). ABSTAIN does not affect the final vote count in any way but is listed, whereas CANCEL is not. IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: Standard Guidelines for voting apply. One vote per person, one account per voter. Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker. Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid. Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered to be anonymous votes. Vote counting is automated. Failure to follow these directions may mean that your vote does not get counted. If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker about the problem. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly. Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results post. The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup. Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose. Please do not distribute this CFV. If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups. Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud. When in doubt, ask the votetaker. DISTRIBUTION: In addition to the groups named in the Newsgroups: header, the CFV and the eventual RESULT posts will be mailed to these mailing lists: Mailing list name: Labview Newsgroup Submission address: lvnewsgroup@viewpointusa.com List honors Reply-To: headers (yes/no)?: yes Mailing list name: National Alliance Program Submission address: alliance@natinst.com List honors Reply-To: headers (yes/no)?: yes Mailing list name: Info-Labview Submission address: info-labview@pica.army.mil List honors Reply-To: headers (yes/no)?: yes Pointers directing readers to this CFV will be posted in these groups: wayne@eatworms.swmed.edu will place a pointer on http://eatworms.swmed.edu/~labview/maillist/mailindex1.html to the following groups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups -- Voting question & problems: Dave Cornejo Voting address: vote@dogwood.com From dave@dogwood.com Wed Apr 29 18:11:39 1998 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Dave Cornejo Reply-To: vote@dogwood.com Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.software.measurement,sci.electronics.design Subject: CFV: comp.lang.labview Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <893652220.23955.2770@isc.org> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Expires: 19 May 1998 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: comp.lang.labview Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1998 00:30:00 GMT Lines: 153 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:10008 news.groups:280511 comp.software.measurement:1620 sci.electronics.design:47290 FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) unmoderated group comp.lang.labview Newsgroups line: comp.lang.labview Labview Software Discussion Group. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 18 May 1998. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Chuck Streb Votetaker: Dave Cornejo RATIONALE: comp.lang.labview Labview is a computer language used in industry. It is a computer language designed for instrumentation. It is best placed under comp.lang.labview. The manufactuer of the product LabVIEW is National Instruments located at http://www.natinst.com. LabVIEW is a product used by many people all over the world. Here is a list of National Instuments Alliance Members which support LabVIEW and National Instruments. The Alliance Members are usually engineering consultants for the general LabVIEW population. This list is located here: http://digital.natinst.com/alliance.nsf Currently the only good way to communicate or discuss information about the LabVIEW product is via a mail-server which can be viewed at http://eatworms.swmed.edu/~labview/maillist/mailindex1.html As can be seen in this group, There is alot of traffic in regard to LabVIEW as many as 50 responses a day. Many people in this mail-list support a group for LabVIEW. If a group existed many LabVIEW programmers would have the ability to search through information in the group.Currently, there is a seven year archive of this mail-server at ftp://ftp.pica.army.mil/pub/labview/list-archives I would not like to see this kind of information be unavailable to the thousands of LabVIEW programmers. Labview (a National Instruments Product) has become a programming language that supports the Largest Data Acquisition Company in the World, National Instruments. And the information stockpile needs to available and searchable. One source of information is not prudent given the importants of the discussions people have about LabVIEW. CHARTER: comp.lang.labview Comp.lang.labview main use will be for discussion about the LabVIEW language. It can include discussion about intrumentation, drivers and other information that is directly related to LabVIEW. The newsgroup is _not_ for the purpose of posting binaries, requesting binaries or advice on how to find binaries, personal ads or posts for the sole purpose of soliciting meetings, erotic fiction, or commercial advertisements, except as noted below. Off-topic messages, flames, and trolls are also not appropriate. Readers who use any information that appears in the newsgroup do so at their own risk. The copyright for all posts either remains with the poster, or in the public domain, as appropriate. END CHARTER. HOW TO VOTE: Follow these instructions *exactly*! Votes are counted by computer. You should send E-MAIL (posts to a newsgroup are invalid) to: vote@dogwood.com Please do not assume that just replying to this message will work. Check the address before you mail your vote. Your mail message should contain one and only one of the following vote statements: I vote YES on comp.lang.labview I vote NO on comp.lang.labview Voter name: If your mail software does not indicate your real name (for example, AOL does not), include _exactly_ the statement above on a _separate_ line and add your name after the colon. Having your name in your signature line is NOT enough! Do NOT join the lines together or remove the words "Voter name"! You may also vote ABSTAIN (which records an empty vote) or CANCEL (which removes any earlier votes). ABSTAIN does not affect the final vote count in any way but is listed, whereas CANCEL is not. IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: Standard Guidelines for voting apply. One vote per person, one account per voter. Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker. Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid. Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered to be anonymous votes. Vote counting is automated. Failure to follow these directions may mean that your vote does not get counted. If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker about the problem. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly. Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results post. The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup. Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose. Please do not distribute this CFV. If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups. Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud. When in doubt, ask the votetaker. DISTRIBUTION: In addition to the groups named in the Newsgroups: header, the CFV and the eventual RESULT posts will be mailed to these mailing lists: Mailing list name: Labview Newsgroup Submission address: lvnewsgroup@viewpointusa.com List honors Reply-To: headers (yes/no)?: yes Mailing list name: National Alliance Program Submission address: alliance@natinst.com List honors Reply-To: headers (yes/no)?: yes Mailing list name: Info-Labview Submission address: info-labview@pica.army.mil List honors Reply-To: headers (yes/no)?: yes Pointers directing readers to this CFV will be posted in these groups: wayne@eatworms.swmed.edu will place a pointer on http://eatworms.swmed.edu/~labview/maillist/mailindex1.html to the following groups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups -- Voting question & problems: Dave Cornejo Voting address: vote@dogwood.com From dave@dogwood.com Sat May 9 11:15:08 1998 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Dave Cornejo Reply-To: vote@dogwood.com Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.software.measurement,sci.electronics.design Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.lang.labview Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <894736913.6748@isc.org> References: <893652220.23955@isc.org> Supersedes: <893652220.23955@isc.org> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Expires: 19 May 1998 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: comp.lang.labview Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 18:01:53 GMT Lines: 153 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:10063 news.groups:282261 comp.software.measurement:1639 sci.electronics.design:48439 LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) unmoderated group comp.lang.labview Newsgroups line: comp.lang.labview Labview Software Discussion Group. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 18 May 1998. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Chuck Streb Votetaker: Dave Cornejo RATIONALE: comp.lang.labview Labview is a computer language used in industry. It is a computer language designed for instrumentation. It is best placed under comp.lang.labview. The manufactuer of the product LabVIEW is National Instruments located at http://www.natinst.com. LabVIEW is a product used by many people all over the world. Here is a list of National Instuments Alliance Members which support LabVIEW and National Instruments. The Alliance Members are usually engineering consultants for the general LabVIEW population. This list is located here: http://digital.natinst.com/alliance.nsf Currently the only good way to communicate or discuss information about the LabVIEW product is via a mail-server which can be viewed at http://eatworms.swmed.edu/~labview/maillist/mailindex1.html As can be seen in this group, There is alot of traffic in regard to LabVIEW as many as 50 responses a day. Many people in this mail-list support a group for LabVIEW. If a group existed many LabVIEW programmers would have the ability to search through information in the group.Currently, there is a seven year archive of this mail-server at ftp://ftp.pica.army.mil/pub/labview/list-archives I would not like to see this kind of information be unavailable to the thousands of LabVIEW programmers. Labview (a National Instruments Product) has become a programming language that supports the Largest Data Acquisition Company in the World, National Instruments. And the information stockpile needs to available and searchable. One source of information is not prudent given the importants of the discussions people have about LabVIEW. CHARTER: comp.lang.labview Comp.lang.labview main use will be for discussion about the LabVIEW language. It can include discussion about intrumentation, drivers and other information that is directly related to LabVIEW. The newsgroup is _not_ for the purpose of posting binaries, requesting binaries or advice on how to find binaries, personal ads or posts for the sole purpose of soliciting meetings, erotic fiction, or commercial advertisements, except as noted below. Off-topic messages, flames, and trolls are also not appropriate. Readers who use any information that appears in the newsgroup do so at their own risk. The copyright for all posts either remains with the poster, or in the public domain, as appropriate. END CHARTER. HOW TO VOTE: Follow these instructions *exactly*! Votes are counted by computer. You should send E-MAIL (posts to a newsgroup are invalid) to: vote@dogwood.com Please do not assume that just replying to this message will work. Check the address before you mail your vote. Your mail message should contain one and only one of the following vote statements: I vote YES on comp.lang.labview I vote NO on comp.lang.labview Voter name: If your mail software does not indicate your real name (for example, AOL does not), include _exactly_ the statement above on a _separate_ line and add your name after the colon. Having your name in your signature line is NOT enough! Do NOT join the lines together or remove the words "Voter name"! You may also vote ABSTAIN (which records an empty vote) or CANCEL (which removes any earlier votes). ABSTAIN does not affect the final vote count in any way but is listed, whereas CANCEL is not. IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: Standard Guidelines for voting apply. One vote per person, one account per voter. Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker. Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid. Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered to be anonymous votes. Vote counting is automated. Failure to follow these directions may mean that your vote does not get counted. If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker about the problem. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly. Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results post. The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup. Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose. Please do not distribute this CFV. If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups. Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud. When in doubt, ask the votetaker. DISTRIBUTION: In addition to the groups named in the Newsgroups: header, the CFV and the eventual RESULT posts will be mailed to these mailing lists: Mailing list name: Labview Newsgroup Submission address: lvnewsgroup@viewpointusa.com List honors Reply-To: headers (yes/no)?: yes Mailing list name: National Alliance Program Submission address: alliance@natinst.com List honors Reply-To: headers (yes/no)?: yes Mailing list name: Info-Labview Submission address: info-labview@pica.army.mil List honors Reply-To: headers (yes/no)?: yes Pointers directing readers to this CFV will be posted in these groups: wayne@eatworms.swmed.edu will place a pointer on http://eatworms.swmed.edu/~labview/maillist/mailindex1.html to the following groups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups -- Voting question & problems: Dave Cornejo Voting address: vote@dogwood.com From dave@dogwood.com Thu May 21 13:45:21 1998 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Dave Cornejo Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.software.measurement,sci.electronics.design Subject: RESULT: comp.lang.labview passes 218:47 Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <895782833.19100@isc.org> References: <893652220.23955@isc.org> <894736913.6748@isc.org> Supersedes: <894736913.6748@isc.org> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Archive-Name: comp.lang.labview Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 20:33:55 GMT Lines: 409 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:10100 news.groups:284033 comp.software.measurement:1674 sci.electronics.design:49374 RESULT unmoderated group comp.lang.labview passes 218:47 There were 218 YES votes and 47 NO votes, for a total of 265 valid votes. There were 3 abstentions and 7 invalid ballots. For a group to pass, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO) votes. There must also be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. A five day discussion period follows this announcement. If no serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter. Newsgroups line: comp.lang.labview Labview Software Discussion Group. Voting closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 18 May 1998. This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Chuck Streb Votetaker: Dave Cornejo RATIONALE: comp.lang.labview Labview is a computer language used in industry. It is a computer language designed for instrumentation. It is best placed under comp.lang.labview. The manufactuer of the product LabVIEW is National Instruments located at http://www.natinst.com. LabVIEW is a product used by many people all over the world. Here is a list of National Instuments Alliance Members which support LabVIEW and National Instruments. The Alliance Members are usually engineering consultants for the general LabVIEW population. This list is located here: http://digital.natinst.com/alliance.nsf Currently the only good way to communicate or discuss information about the LabVIEW product is via a mail-server which can be viewed at http://eatworms.swmed.edu/~labview/maillist/mailindex1.html As can be seen in this group, There is alot of traffic in regard to LabVIEW as many as 50 responses a day. Many people in this mail-list support a group for LabVIEW. If a group existed many LabVIEW programmers would have the ability to search through information in the group.Currently, there is a seven year archive of this mail-server at ftp://ftp.pica.army.mil/pub/labview/list-archives I would not like to see this kind of information be unavailable to the thousands of LabVIEW programmers. Labview (a National Instruments Product) has become a programming language that supports the Largest Data Acquisition Company in the World, National Instruments. And the information stockpile needs to available and searchable. One source of information is not prudent given the importants of the discussions people have about LabVIEW. CHARTER: comp.lang.labview Comp.lang.labview main use will be for discussion about the LabVIEW language. It can include discussion about intrumentation, drivers and other information that is directly related to LabVIEW. 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DISTRIBUTION: In addition to the groups named in the Newsgroups: header, the CFV and the eventual RESULT posts will be mailed to these mailing lists: Mailing list name: Labview Newsgroup Submission address: lvnewsgroup@viewpointusa.com List honors Reply-To: headers (yes/no)?: yes Mailing list name: National Alliance Program Submission address: alliance@natinst.com List honors Reply-To: headers (yes/no)?: yes Mailing list name: Info-Labview Submission address: info-labview@pica.army.mil List honors Reply-To: headers (yes/no)?: yes Pointers directing readers to this CFV will be posted in these groups: wayne@eatworms.swmed.edu will place a pointer on http://eatworms.swmed.edu/~labview/maillist/mailindex1.html to the following groups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups comp.lang.labview Final Voter list Voted YES ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- p.stefan@magnet.at Peter Stefan gavan@magna.com.au Gavan Schneider cmacs@ozemail.com.au Jason Thelander aym@senet.com.au Ashley Martin rpratt@senet.com.au Rodney Pratt graeme@babylon.wsc.monash.edu.au Graeme Cross Glenn.Horrocks@eng.uts.edu.au Glenn Horrocks Piet.Verhoeve@rug.ac.be Piet Verhoeve Pierre.Ripak@Laborelec.be pierre.ripak@laborelec.be mbarreto@lcaee.fee.unicamp.br Gustavo M. B. Alonso capone@fee.unicamp.br Gustavo Covizzi dprylows@compusmart.ab.ca Darin=20 WARD@bert.van.forintek.ca Ward F. Bush chriseb@nortel.ca Chris Ebenezer kozlow@sfu.ca Henryk Kozlow jmcgarry@uoguelph.ca James McGarry pi.electronics@chcrc.abb.ch mondada@di.epfl.ch Francesco Mondada Juerg.Keller@isoe.ch Dr. J. Keller, Ingenieurschule Oensingen meissner@qmt.ch Ivan Meissner danatec@swissonline.ch Norbert Schmid urs.lauterburg@phim.unibe.ch Urs Lauterburg pprobst@worldcom.ch Pierre-Alain PROBST bladerunner@acsis.com Allen C. Smith rob.t@advmeas.com Rob Taylor slrobins@aebishop.com Stuart Robinson ARuether@aol.com Andrew Ruether ZachNorth@aol.com Zach North DWilson@atinc.com Douglas H. Wilson sabu@best.com Robert W. Weiman jdg@but-i-dont-like-spam.boxmail.com John David Galt johnowen@btinternet.com John Owen Stow_Andrew_G@cat.com Andrew G. Stow 76453.3412@compuserve.com Michael George BeverlyPryor@compuserve.com Beverly E. Pryor piper@computer4u.com Thomas Piper NguyenSV@corning.com Nguyen, Sinh V PorterML@corning.com Michael Porter MartinHenz@csi.com Martin Henz t.stites@cummins.com Theresa Stites booda@datasync.com Martin H. Booda guymacon@deltanet.com guymacon@deltanet.com (Guy Macon) julesd@edifax.com Jules Dubois williamw@Exabyte.COM William Widener jluebke@ford.com Jeff Luebke Steve-1.Bower@frco.com Steve_Bower pirkola@smtp-gw.gdls.com Mark Pirkola curtis_whalen+usenet@geocities.com Curtis [Jewell] Whalen lee.globus@guidant.com Lee Globus c44gmd@CCGATE.HAC.COM rayb@shofixti.fc.hp.com Raymond Bingham gazdaj@icst.com Jan Gazda physics@inmind.com John R. Bower foster@cba.Kodak.COM Carl Foster michael.wright@l-3com.com Michael Wright DormerRW@litton-ps.com Bill Dormer davidkm@micro-sys.com David Philippe_Moquin@Mitel.COM Philippe Moquin jeff@nacimiento.com Jeffrey Travis bessie.stubbs@natinst.com beverley.hoerig@natinst.com Beverley Hoerig bradley.bench@natinst.com Bradley Bench brigitte.radauer@natinst.com bryan.webb@natinst.com Bryan Webb carl.nybro@natinst.com Carl Nybro charles.houlton@natinst.com christoph.wimmer@natinst.com Christoph Wimmer clint.biggs@natinst.com Clint Biggs david.hamill@natinst.com David Hamill david.murray@natinst.com david.payne@natinst.com David Payne donnie.haffelder@natinst.com doug.cooper@natinst.com duncan.hudson@natinst.com Duncan Hudson ed.galindo@natinst.com gam@natinst.com Greg McKaskle greg.crouch@natinst.com guenther.schmied@natinst.com Schmied Guenther guenther.stefan@natinst.com Günther Stefan guy.nunnellee@natinst.com jason.reid@natinst.com jim.cathey@natinst.com James B. Cathey kelly.haskell@natinst.com Kelly Haskell kurt.veggeberg@natinst.com Kurt Veggeberg lana.cox@natinst.com lutonya.ray@natinst.com mark.jasinski@natinst.com Mark Jasinski monico.reyna@natinst.com monico.reyna@natinst.com nathan.wright@natinst.com owen.golden@natinst.com Owen Golden patrick.geiger@natinst.com preston.johnson@natinst.com Preston Todd Johnson, Industrial Automation Business Development ramon.perez@natinst.com rieko.matsunaga@natinst.com Rieko Matsunaga rob@natinst.com Robert Dye robert.lixl@natinst.com Robert Lixl rudolf.gierlinger@natinst.com Gierlinger Rudolf sean.eason@natinst.com tamra.kerns@natinst.com Tamra Pringle troy.matus@natinst.com victor.mieres@natinst.com Victor Mieres hyder@buntypost.dundee.ncr.com Hyde, Richard jacc@netcom.com Jonathan Colby DUFFECH@mail.northgrum.com Chris Duffey larsonr@opisystems.com Ronald Larson Dragan_Petrovic@pittway.com Dragan Petrovic BHSINGH@QTIWORLD.COM Bhaskar Singh bdrain@revolve.com Barrie Drain rcyoung@crnotes.cca.rockwell.com Robert C. Young waynes@sakor.com Wayne Steinhour fcarey@schafercorp.com Frank Carey walter@scimisys.com Walter Rebsch tuddenha@platinum1.cambridge.scr.slb.com Iain Tuddenham rmt01@mhs.sperry-marine.com Thorpe, Richard M. stamper@stamper.com Chris Stamper dmcmahon@stanadyne.com Don McMahon arielle@taronga.com Stephanie da Silva robert.delsignore@bangate.tek.com Robert Del Signore cdobis@uta.com Craig Dobis jorge.rodriguez@vi-tech.com Jorge Rodriguez abs@viewpointusa.com Alan Sharrow daf@viewpointusa.com Doug Femec djb@viewpointusa.com Dan Blasdell dms@viewpointusa.com David M Smith eas@viewpointusa.com Edward A. Snyder erik@ViewpointUSA.com Erik Goethert Fred@viewpointusa.com Fred Genett jac@viewpointusa.com Jim Campbell jev@viewpointusa.com Justin Vlietstra rfg@viewpointusa.com Robert Grimm srm@viewpointusa.com Stuart R. McFarlane ver@viewpointusa.com Vincent Recca leyhr@comsoft.de Leyhr, Klaus-Dieter afi@d-tech.de Alfred Fiedler, Paderborn, Germany a.pfaller@pop.gun.de Andreas Pfaller nitsche@stella.j-m.de Harald Nitsche hardy@shumway.rhein-neckar.de Hartwig Kuehbauch uzs452@uni-bonn.de Johannes Niess cipam895@student.e-technik.uni-stuttgart.de Andreas Mohr spd@bang-olufsen.dk Søren Noer Pedersen mib@danmar.dk Michael Brinch troerby.ind@dse.dk =?iso-8859-1?Q?Teddy_R=F8rby?= mattw@uclink4.berkeley.edu Matt Wachowiak djmar@engc.bu.edu Douglas J. Mar rajwi@engc.bu.edu Rajwinder Singh tzeng@acsu.buffalo.edu Tao Zeng mpollard@polymail.cpunix.calpoly.edu Matthew Pollard clarkcd@ucsu.colorado.edu Chris Clark ColliBF1@APLMSG.JHUAPL.EDU Collins, Bernard F. (Skip) bbaker@ll.mit.edu Robert Baker gray@engr.psu.edu Gary L. Gray graber@ecn.purdue.edu George Graber streb@che.rochester.edu Chuck Streb kemi@caip.rutgers.edu Kemi Ladeji-Osias wayne@eatworms.swmed.edu Wayne Davis tcleland@emerald.tufts.edu Thomas Cleland atala@squid.umd.edu physgrad boysen@chtm.chtm.unm.edu Eric A. Boysen vanguard@mail.utexas.edu Jason Dick rufinus@mbe.ece.wisc.edu J Rufinus target@ritsec1.com.eg Samy Antoun =?iso-8859-1?Q?Seppo_Kylm=E4nen_=3Cseppo.kylmanen=40technopark.fi=3E?=@raaseu.fi Seppo Kylmänen puc@gsfc.nasa.gov Bernard Puc Will.Maynard@gsfc.nasa.gov Will Maynard George.Berry-1@pp.ksc.nasa.gov Paul Berry i.o.clark@larc.nasa.gov Ivan Clark jpc@drum.msfc.nasa.gov J. Porter Clark camell@boulder.nist.gov Dennis Camell jworthey@nist.gov James Worthey thomas.larason@nist.gov Thomas Larason castle@aoml.noaa.gov Bob Castle gravesvb@ornl.gov Van Graves pjo@ornl.gov Pedro J. Otaduy damico@sandia.gov Joe Damico ori@otidan.co.il Ori Idan guglielmo.braguglia@nos.it Guglielmo Braguglia ashakocius@alcft.brooks.af.mil Aaron Shakocius burtonb@mlnpop3.chinalake.navy.mil RC Burton whelanj@dt.navy.mil whelanj@dt.navy.mil coffelt@ssdd.nrl.navy.mil David Coffelt msoysal@mistik.express.net Mustafa Soysal MS57 drosent@idt.net David Rosenthal xylum1-2@idt.net gardiner@lava.net Dano Gardiner srlbetts@pacbell.net   Don Betts lime@poppyfields.net jp@spacelab.net Joseph Passero nizsx@public.szonline.net Shuxu Zheng u1001155@warwick.net Rich Swenson mallory@west.net Walter Mallory A.PAULI@ato.dlo.nl Andre' Pauli B.B.VANDENBRINK@ato.dlo.nl B.B.van den Brink F.B.T.F.GOLBACH@ato.dlo.nl GOLBACH J.C.NOORDAM@ato.dlo.nl J.C. Noordam J.W.P.M.VOGELS@ato.dlo.nl Jan Vogels M.UITERWIJK@ato.dlo.nl Michel Uiterwijk +31.317.475313 M.Portanger@phys.uu.nl Marcel Portanger. rune@cinet.no Rune Johansen Oystein.K.Hansen@stami.no Øystein Klingenberg Hansen Bruce.McKibben@fi.uib.no Bruce McKibben mihai.costache@fp.co.nz Mihai Costache simon@darkmere.gen.nz Simon Lyall david@home.net.nz David Farrar bbowler@bigelow.org Bruce Bowler vote@erle.org Tobias Erle carloscanhoto@mail.telepac.pt Carlos Canhoto mellberg@selcom.se Lars Mellberg anders.henoch@swipnet.se Anders Henoch ole.hattebol@swipnet.se Ole Hatteböl LauYM@sp.ac.sg Lau Yong Ming (Singapore) PeeSH@sp.ac.sg Pee Suat Hoon schew@sp.ac.sg Steven Chew Lai Keat WengLam@sp.ac.sg NG Weng Lam H.Owen@dl.ac.uk Hywel Owen M.G.Boshier@sussex.ac.uk Malcolm Boshier pyrosys@dera.gov.uk Richard Hill do_while@ridgecrest.ca.us Do-While Jones Voted NO ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- fon@iinet.net.au Adrian Smith heerema@andromeda.ab.ca Dr. John Heerema calabres@chass.utoronto.ca T.Calabrese pincus@tulip.aracor.com Cary Pincus stainles@bga.com Dwight Brown JWest@carrieraccess.com JWest@carrieraccess.com Steppat@compuserve.com Christoph Steppat Dan.Ponce@gat.com Dan Ponce Kyle.Schmidt@Toronto.Messier-Dowty.gmsmail.com R. Kyle Schmidt jacobchase@hotmail.com Jacob Chase dougob@javanet.com Doug O'Brien cipher@mindspring.com Cipher olav@viking.mv.com Olav Nieuwejaar gnomon@netcom.com Andrew B. Johnson drylungs@netlimit.com gaillard@panix.com Ed Gaillard billmack@seistl.com Bill Maciejewski Brian_Renken@SensArray.com Brian Renken Jdeere@sensarray.com Jim Deere Wayne_Renken@SensArray.com Wayne Renken Daniel.Schmitt@solvay.com Schmitt, Daniel gzou@sonsub.com George Zou David.Robinson@Eng.Sun.COM David Robinson mhanning-lee@syagen.com Mark A. Hanning-Lee norm@psd.symbol.com Norm Nelson daver@teleport.com David Reynolds naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de Christian Weisgerber philgc@physics.berkeley.edu Phil Collins sth@magnet.fsu.edu Scott Hannahs saarieri@pilot.msu.edu Eric Saari johnsold@muohio.edu Lynn D. Johnson kopetsbj@cs.purdue.edu Brett J. Kopetsky jenkins@engr.sc.edu Jenkins, Robert rick@bcm.tmc.edu Richard H. Miller gbacon@pluto.cs.uah.edu Greg Bacon dthomson@al.noaa.gov David Thomson novakon@enter.it NOVAKON srl miller@plh.af.mil Steven M. Miller jbrohan@citenet.net John Brohan pbern7@earthlink.net Paul Bernhardt sean.duffy@bbs.goldengate.net Sean Duffy willstn@mcs.net David Willcox marquez@pacbell.net Aaron Marquez DarrenH@GALLAGHER.co.nz Darren Harrison hfung@lerami.lerctr.org Hank Fung (SoCalTip) djb@scream.org Dan Birchall erigbadj@postmaster.co.uk Abstained ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- cdt@audiophile.com Chris Trumbore chris@kzim.com Christopher Robin Zimmerman andrew@erlenstar.demon.co.uk Andrew Gierth Invalid ballots ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve_McNally@vicr.com Stephen McNally ! Invalid email address basogard@nospamworldnet.att.net Brian Sogard ! Invalid email address rohrbach@qmt.ch =?iso-8859-1?Q?St=E9phane_Rohrbach?= ! No vote statement in message Ian.Burgoyne@smithmyers.com Ian Burgoyne ! No vote statement in message msesystems@ibm.net Mark Stangl ! No vote statement in message lsp@mailserv.waikato.ac.nz ! No vote statement in message Dan.Bolin@elema.siemens.se ! No vote statement in message