From boutell@netcom.com Sun Feb 12 22:46:42 1995 Status: RO Path: uunet!bounce-back From: boutell@netcom.com (Thomas Boutell) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.infosystems.www.providers,comp.infosystems.www.misc,comp.infosystems.www.users Subject: RFD: comp.infosystems.www reorganization Followup-To: news.groups Date: 12 Feb 1995 22:22:14 -0500 Organization: Nerdsholm Lines: 141 Sender: tale@rodan.UU.NET Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <3hmj96$pb6@rodan.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: is1.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:6278 news.groups:134116 comp.infosystems.www.providers:18981 comp.infosystems.www.misc:20157 comp.infosystems.www.users:17974 This RFD is being issued in accordance with the guidelines set in the "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" FAQ regularly posted to news.announce.newgroups. Please refer to that article if you have any questions about the rules governing newsgroup creation. This post is a Request For Discussion (RFD) regarding the reorganization of the comp.infosystems.www hierarchy of newsgroups. Over the eight months since the last reorganization, it has become apparent that the volume of the newsgroups is again out of control. In order to make the newsgroups more useful, the following reorganization is proposed. THIS IS NOT A CALL FOR VOTES. Please post your COMMENTS, not votes, to news.groups, where (according to the USENET guidelines) newsgroup creation discussions are to take place. PROPOSAL The following newsgroups are to be created. The existing newsgroups comp.infosystems.www.providers and comp.infosystems.www.users will be removed, presumably by renaming them. The existing newsgroups comp.infosystems.www.announce and comp.infosystems.www.misc will not be affected. Detailed explanation follows the list; please read the entire post before responding. comp.infosystems.www.advocacy comp.infosystems.www.browsers.mac comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc comp.infosystems.www.browsers.ms-windows comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix comp.infosystems.www.servers.mac comp.infosystems.www.servers.misc comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi comp.infosystems.www.authoring.imagemaps comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images comp.infosystems.www.authoring.security [Again, not ethat comp.infosystems.www.announce and comp.infosystems.www.misc already exist and are not affected by the reorganization.] Rationale --------- Previous divisions appeared to split the groups into classes of people, although this was not intentional. This led to confusion, even to the point of posts to comp.infosystems.www.providers which said "I'm a provider, so I can post whatever I want to comp.infosystems.www.providers." In order to avoid confusion of this sort, the new organization splits by SUBJECT MATTER, not by intended readership. comp.infosystems.www.advocacy "The web is better than print", "Netscape is better than anything else", "Mosaic is so good it makes me cry", "your browser sucks", and related, equally useless threads. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html Discussion of HTML as it relates to web page authoring. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi Discussion of the development of CGI scripts to handle the results of forms, generate images on the fly, and so on. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images Discussion of the creation and editing of images as it relates to web page authoring. How best to leverage the image-display capabilities of the web, et cetera. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.imagemaps Discussion of the creation, editing and installation of image maps (clickable images leading to many destinations from the same source image) on the web. Although imagemaps are currently CGI-based, HTML-based and image format-based solutions are on the horizon, and it is logical to have a group for the topic as a whole. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.security Discussion of techniques for providing security for World Wide Web resources. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.misc Miscellaneous World Wide Web authoring issues not covered by the above. comp.infosystems.www.browsers.mac comp.infosystems.www.browsers.ms-windows comp.infosystems.www.browsers.unix comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc Discussion of World Wide Web browsers for each of the specified architectures. This division is necessary in order to contain the volume of discussion. Splitting by browser is impractical given that browsers come and go rapidly, much more rapidly than newsgroups can be created. Most posts about browser use concern problems and solutions that are fairly platform-specific. comp.infosystems.www.servers.mac comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix comp.infosystems.www.servers.misc Discussion of World Wide Web servers for each of the specified architectures. Servers are primarily platform-specific, or differ sufficiently from platform to platform that questions are unlikely to have the same answer from one to the next. comp.infosystems.www.misc Miscellaneous World Wide Web discussion which does not fit into the above categories. PROPONENT This RFD was prepared by Thomas Boutell, with assistance from M.L. Grant. Correspondence should be posted to news.groups, or emailed to boutell@netcom.com. If you wish your comments to be public, please post to news.groups. DISTRIBUTION This RFD was posted to comp.infosystems.www.providers, comp.infosystems.www.misc, comp.infosystems.www.users, news.groups, and news.announce.newgroups. Pointers to the discussion will be posted to comp.infosystems.www.announce and alt.hypertext. -T -- The ouzo of human kindness. From boutell@netcom.com Tue Mar 7 16:42:24 1995 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Thomas Boutell Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.infosystems.www.providers,comp.infosystems.www.misc,comp.infosystems.www.users Subject: 2nd RFD: comp.infosystems.www reorganization Followup-To: news.groups Date: 7 Mar 1995 15:37:15 -0500 Organization: Nerdsholm Lines: 148 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <3jig5r$o0p@rodan.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:6352 news.groups:137992 comp.infosystems.www.providers:22249 comp.infosystems.www.misc:22779 comp.infosystems.www.users:20467 SECOND REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION comp.infosystems.www reorganization Changes: (1) elimination of comp.infosystems.www.authoring.imagemaps (not enough regular discussion to warrant a separate group) (2) change of comp.infosystems.www.browsers.unix to c.i.w.b.x-window (3) addition of rationale for no new announce newsgroups (4) spelling and consistency errors fixed This RFD is being issued in accordance with the guidelines set in the "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" FAQ regularly posted to news.announce.newgroups. Please refer to that article if you have any questions about the rules governing newsgroup creation. This post is the second Request For Discussion (RFD) regarding the reorganization of the comp.infosystems.www hierarchy of newsgroups. THIS IS NOT A CALL FOR VOTES. Please post your COMMENTS, not votes, to news.groups, where (according to the USENET guidelines) newsgroup creation discussions are to take place. PROPOSAL The following newsgroups are to be created. The existing newsgroups comp.infosystems.www.providers and comp.infosystems.www.users will be removed, presumably by renaming them. The existing newsgroups comp.infosystems.www.announce and comp.infosystems.www.misc will not be affected. Detailed explanation follows the list; please read the entire post before responding. comp.infosystems.www.advocacy comp.infosystems.www.browsers.mac comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc comp.infosystems.www.browsers.ms-windows comp.infosystems.www.browsers.x-window comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix comp.infosystems.www.servers.mac comp.infosystems.www.servers.misc comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images comp.infosystems.www.authoring.security [Again, note that comp.infosystems.www.announce and comp.infosystems.www.misc already exist and are not affected by the reorganization.] Rationale --------- Previous divisions appeared to split the groups into classes of people, although this was not intentional. This led to confusion, even to the point of posts to comp.infosystems.www.providers which said "I'm a provider, so I can post whatever I want to comp.infosystems.www.providers." In order to avoid confusion of this sort, the new organization splits by SUBJECT MATTER, not by intended readership. Since the current announce group is moderated and posts fewer than 50 articles per day, readers of that group can use killfiles to select the articles they prefer to see. Therefore there is no provision in this RFD for new announce newsgroups. comp.infosystems.www.advocacy "The web is better than print"; "Netscape is better than anything else"; "Mosaic is so good it makes me cry"; "your browser sucks"; and related, equally useless threads. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html Discussion of HTML as it relates to web page authoring. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi Discussion of the development of CGI scripts to handle the results of forms, generate images on the fly, and so on. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images Discussion of the creation and editing of images as it relates to web page authoring. How best to leverage the image-display capabilities of the web, et cetera. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.security Discussion of techniques for providing security for World-Wide Web resources. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.misc Miscellaneous World-Wide Web authoring issues not covered by the above. comp.infosystems.www.browsers.mac comp.infosystems.www.browsers.ms-windows comp.infosystems.www.browsers.x-window comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc Discussion of World-Wide Web browsers for each of the specified architectures. This division is necessary in order to contain the volume of discussion. Splitting by browser is impractical given that browsers come and go rapidly, much more rapidly than newsgroups can be created. Most posts about browser use concern problems and solutions that are fairly platform-specific. comp.infosystems.www.servers.mac comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix comp.infosystems.www.servers.misc Discussion of World-Wide Web servers for each of the specified architectures. Servers are primarily platform-specific, or differ sufficiently from platform to platform that questions are unlikely to have the same answer from one to the next. comp.infosystems.www.misc comp.infosystems.www.announce Miscellaneous World-Wide Web discussion which does not fit into the above categories. Announcements of new and updated Web resources. These groups already exist and will not change. PROPONENT This RFD was prepared by Thomas Boutell, with assistance from M. L. Grant. Correspondence should be posted to news.groups, or emailed to boutell@netcom.com. If you wish your comments to be public, please post to news.groups. DISTRIBUTION This RFD was posted to comp.infosystems.www.providers, comp.infosystems.www.misc, comp.infosystems.www.users, news.groups, and news.announce.newgroups. Pointers to the discussion will be posted to comp.infosystems.www.announce and alt.hypertext. -T From boutell@netcom.com Mon Mar 13 17:00:06 1995 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Thomas Boutell Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.infosystems.www.providers,comp.infosystems.www.misc,comp.infosystems.www.users Subject: 3rd RFD: comp.infosystems.www reorganization Followup-To: news.groups Date: 13 Mar 1995 15:25:49 -0500 Organization: Nerdsholm Lines: 152 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <3k29od$lqs@rodan.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:6429 news.groups:139127 comp.infosystems.www.providers:23135 comp.infosystems.www.misc:23445 comp.infosystems.www.users:21222 Changes since the second RFD: (1) change of c.i.w.browsers.x-window to c.i.w.browsers.x because of the other *.x newsgroups and the tendency of *.x-window newsgroups to receive MS-DOS Windows traffic. (2) removal of c.i.w.authoring.security because of the pre-existence of the comp.security.* groups. Perhaps there should be a comp.security.www, instead, but that is beyond the scope of this RFD and is NOT part of it. (3) addition of clearer rationales for c.i.w.advocacy and the lack of c.i.w.authoring.{multimedia-name} groups. This RFD is being issued in accordance with the guidelines set in the "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" FAQ regularly posted to news.announce.newgroups. Please refer to that article if you have any questions about the rules governing newsgroup creation. This post is the third Request For Discussion (RFD) regarding the reorganization of the comp.infosystems.www hierarchy of newsgroups. THIS IS NOT A CALL FOR VOTES. Please post your COMMENTS, not votes, to news.groups, where (according to the USENET guidelines) newsgroup creation discussions are to take place. PROPOSAL The following newsgroups are to be created. The existing newsgroups comp.infosystems.www.providers and comp.infosystems.www.users will be removed, presumably by renaming them. The existing newsgroups comp.infosystems.www.announce and comp.infosystems.www.misc will not be affected. Detailed explanation follows the list; please read the entire post before responding. comp.infosystems.www.advocacy comp.infosystems.www.browsers.mac comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc comp.infosystems.www.browsers.ms-windows comp.infosystems.www.browsers.x comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix comp.infosystems.www.servers.mac comp.infosystems.www.servers.misc comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images comp.infosystems.www.authoring.misc [Note that comp.infosystems.www.announce and comp.infosystems.www.misc already exist and are not affected by the reorganization.] RATIONALE Previous divisions appeared to split the groups into classes of people, although this was not intentional. This led to confusion, even to the point of posts to comp.infosystems.www.providers which said "I'm a provider, so I can post whatever I want to comp.infosystems.www.providers." In order to avoid confusion of this sort, the new organization splits by SUBJECT MATTER, not by intended readership. Since the current announce group is moderated and posts fewer than 50 articles per day, readers of that group can use killfiles to select the articles they prefer to see. Therefore, there is no provision in this RFD for new announce newsgroups. comp.infosystems.www.advocacy "The web is better than print"; "Netscape is better than anything else"; "CERN httpd kicks butt"; etc. Advocacy groups enjoy good traffic levels and are a great place to siphon off off-topic posts and to direct follow-ups. Without a Web advocacy group, the other groups (especially the browser groups) are likely to be flooded with "Netscape rules" and "I love Lynx" posts, and prove useless to people who need help with browser configuration or other difficulties. People will, of course, post praises for their favorite Mac browser in c.i.w.b.mac; but with an advocacy group in the Web hierarchy, they can direct follow-ups (or be flamed) appropriately. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html Discussion of HTML as it relates to web page authoring. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi Discussion of the development of CGI scripts to handle the results of forms, generate images on the fly, and so on. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images Discussion of the creation and editing of images as it relates to web page authoring. How best to leverage the image-display capabilities of the web, et cetera. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.misc Miscellaneous World-Wide Web authoring issues not covered by the above. The use of audio and video on the Web is, as yet, minimal; those issues can be dealt with in a later proposal. comp.infosystems.www.browsers.mac comp.infosystems.www.browsers.ms-windows comp.infosystems.www.browsers.x comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc Discussion of World-Wide Web browsers for each of the specified architectures. This division is necessary in order to contain the volume of discussion. Splitting by browser is impractical given that browsers come and go rapidly, much more rapidly than newsgroups can be created. Most posts about browser use concern problems (such as external viewers and configuration) and solutions that are fairly platform-specific. comp.infosystems.www.servers.mac comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix comp.infosystems.www.servers.misc Discussion of World-Wide Web servers for each of the specified architectures. Servers are primarily platform-specific, or differ sufficiently from platform to platform that questions are unlikely to have the same answer from one to the next. comp.infosystems.www.misc comp.infosystems.www.announce Miscellaneous World-Wide Web discussion which does not fit into the above categories. Announcements of new and updated Web resources. These groups already exist and will not change. PROPONENT This RFD was prepared by Thomas Boutell, with assistance from M. L. Grant. Correspondence should be posted to news.groups, or emailed to boutell@netcom.com. If you wish your comments to be public, please post to news.groups. DISTRIBUTION This RFD was posted to comp.infosystems.www.providers, comp.infosystems.www.misc, comp.infosystems.www.users, news.groups, and news.announce.newgroups. Pointers to the discussion will be posted to comp.infosystems.www.announce and alt.hypertext. -T From ikluft@amdahl.com Wed Mar 29 19:02:53 1995 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: ikluft@amdahl.com (Ian Kluft) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.infosystems.www.misc,comp.infosystems.www.providers,comp.infosystems.www.users Subject: CFV: comp.infosystems.www reorganization Followup-To: poster Date: 29 Mar 1995 18:24:44 -0500 Organization: UVV - UseNet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 298 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Expires: 20 Apr 1995 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: References: <3hmj96$pb6@rodan.UU.NET> <3jig5r$o0p@rodan.UU.NET> <3k29od$lqs@rodan.UU.NET> Reply-To: www-reorg-vote@amdahl.com NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:6532 news.groups:142147 comp.infosystems.www.misc:25449 comp.infosystems.www.providers:25428 comp.infosystems.www.users:23156 FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) COMP.INFOSYSTEMS.WWW REORGANIZATION comp.infosystems.www.advocacy unmoderated comp.infosystems.www.browsers.mac unmoderated comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc unmoderated comp.infosystems.www.browsers.ms-windows unmoderated comp.infosystems.www.browsers.x unmoderated comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows unmoderated comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix unmoderated comp.infosystems.www.servers.mac unmoderated comp.infosystems.www.servers.misc unmoderated comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html unmoderated comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi unmoderated comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images unmoderated comp.infosystems.www.authoring.misc unmoderated Newsgroups lines: comp.infosystems.www.advocacy Comments and arguments over the best and worst. comp.infosystems.www.browsers.mac Web browsers for the Macintosh platform. comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc Web browsers for other platforms. comp.infosystems.www.browsers.ms-windows Web browsers for MS Windows. comp.infosystems.www.browsers.x Web browsers for the X-Window system. comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows Web servers for MS Windows and NT. comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix Web servers for UNIX platforms. comp.infosystems.www.servers.mac Web servers for the Macintosh platform. comp.infosystems.www.servers.misc Web servers for other platforms. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html Writing HTML for the Web. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi Writing CGI scripts for the Web. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images Using images, imagemaps on the Web. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.misc Miscellaneous Web authoring issues. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 19 April 1995. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting questions only contact Ian Kluft (the votetaker). For questions about the proposed groups contact Thomas Boutell and M. L. Grant (the proponents). Note: This is the second reorganization of comp.infosystems.www. The previous one occurred in March through May 1994. Details are available at ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/comp/comp.infosystems.www-reorg OFFICIAL SOURCES OF THE CFV The only official sources for copies of this CFV are the UseNet newsgroups to which it is posted including news.announce.newgroups and the e-mail server at www-cfv-request@amdahl.com The CFV server will return a copy of the CFV to the sender. Your message may be empty because any contents will be ignored. RATIONALE This is the rationale for the proposal as submitted by the proponent. Previous divisions appeared to split the groups into classes of people, although this was not intentional. This led to confusion, even to the point of posts to comp.infosystems.www.providers which said "I'm a provider, so I can post whatever I want to comp.infosystems.www.providers." In order to avoid confusion of this sort, the new organization splits by SUBJECT MATTER, not by intended readership. Separate newsgroups for each browser have been suggested, but browsers continually change names, appear and disappear. Most browser questions relate to a specific platform. CHARTERS These are the newsgroup charters as submitted by the proponent. The following newsgroups are to be created. The existing newsgroups comp.infosystems.www.providers and comp.infosystems.www.users will be removed, by renaming comp.infosystems.www.providers to comp.infosystems.www.authoring.misc and comp.infosystems.www.users to comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc. The existing newsgroups comp.infosystems.www.announce and comp.infosystems.www.misc will not be affected. Detailed explanation follows the list; please read the entire post before responding. comp.infosystems.www.advocacy comp.infosystems.www.browsers.mac comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc comp.infosystems.www.browsers.ms-windows comp.infosystems.www.browsers.x comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix comp.infosystems.www.servers.mac comp.infosystems.www.servers.misc comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images comp.infosystems.www.authoring.misc [Note that comp.infosystems.www.announce and comp.infosystems.www.misc already exist and are not affected by the reorganization.] comp.infosystems.www.advocacy This newsgroup is for comments, arguments, debates, and discussions about which Web browsers, servers, external viewer programs, and other software is better or worse than any other. Posts should not be crossposted to this group and to any other Web group. However, this group is a good place to direct follow-ups if a thread in another Web group begins to take on a "this program is better than that one" flavor. Possible subjects include: "The web is better than print"; "Netscape is better than anything else"; "CERN httpd kicks butt"; etc. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html This newsgroup covers discussion of HyperText Markup Language (HTML) as it relates to web page authoring. Possible subjects include HTML editors, formatting tricks, and current and proposed HTML standards. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi This newsgroup covers discussion of the development of Common Gateway Interface (CGI) scripts as they relate to Web page authoring. Possible subjects include discussion how to handle the results of forms, how to generate images on the fly, and how to put together other interactive Web offerings. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images This newsgroup covers discussion of the creation and editing of images as they relate to web page authoring. Possible subjects include how best to leverage the image-display capabilities of the web and common questions and solutions for putting up imagemaps. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.misc This newsgroup covers miscellaneous World-Wide Web authoring issues not covered by the other c.i.w.authoring.* groups. Possible subjects include the use of audio and video, etc. comp.infosystems.www.browsers.mac This newsgroup covers discussion of World-Wide Web browsers for the Macintosh platform. Possible subjects include configuration questions/solutions, external viewers (helper applications), and bug reports. comp.infosystems.www.browsers.ms-windows This newsgroup covers discussion of World-Wide Web browsers for the MS Windows and NT platforms. Possible subjects include configuration questions/solutions, external viewers (helper applications), and bug reports. comp.infosystems.www.browsers.x This newsgroup covers discussion of World-Wide Web browsers for the X-Window system. Possible subjects include configuration questions/solutions, external viewers (helper applications), and bug reports. comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc This newsgroup covers discussion of World-Wide Web browsers for all other platforms. Possible subjects include configuration questions/solutions, external viewers (helper applications), and bug reports. Platforms included are Amiga, DOS (*not* Windows), VMS, and Unix text-mode. comp.infosystems.www.servers.mac This newsgroup covers discussion of World-Wide Web servers for the Macintosh (MacOS) platform. Possible subjects include configuration questions/solutions, security issues, directory structure, and bug reports. comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows This newsgroup covers discussion of World-Wide Web servers for the MS Windows and NT platforms. Possible subjects include configuration questions/solutions, security issues, directory structure, and bug reports. comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix This newsgroup covers discussion of World-Wide Web servers for Unix platforms. Possible subjects include configuration questions/solutions, security issues, directory structure, and bug reports. comp.infosystems.www.servers.misc This newsgroup covers discussion of World-Wide Web servers for other platforms, such as Amiga, VMS, and others. Possible subjects include configuration questions/solutions, security issues, directory structure, and bug reports. comp.infosystems.www.misc Miscellaneous World-Wide Web discussion which does not fit into the above categories. This group already exits and will not change. comp.infosystems.www.announce Announcements of new and updated Web resources. This group already exists and will not change. HOW TO VOTE Erase everything above the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" line and erase everything below the "END OF BALLOT" line. Do not erase anything between these lines and do not change the group names. Basically, remove everything except the ballot - we have to save them all on disk. Give your name on the line that asks for it. For each group, place a YES or NO in the brackets next to it to vote for or against it. If you don't want to vote on a particular group, just leave the space blank. Don't worry about spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your reply inserts. 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If | 1ST CFV 2ND REORGANIZATION you see any votes filled in below, except for | COMP.INFOSYSTEMS.WWW the yes/no/abstain examples, get an official | Official UseNet Voting Ballot CFV & ballot from www-cfv-request@amdahl.com | ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Give your real name here: [Your Vote] Group ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ YES ] example.yes.vote [ NO ] example.no.vote [ ABSTAIN ] example.abstention [ ] comp.infosystems.www.advocacy [ ] comp.infosystems.www.browsers.mac [ ] comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc (replaces comp.infosystems.www.users) [ ] comp.infosystems.www.browsers.ms-windows [ ] comp.infosystems.www.browsers.x [ ] comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows [ ] comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix [ ] comp.infosystems.www.servers.mac [ ] comp.infosystems.www.servers.misc [ ] comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html [ ] comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi [ ] comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images [ ] comp.infosystems.www.authoring.misc (replaces comp.infosystems.www.providers) ============= END OF BALLOT: Delete everything after this line ============== IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES Anything other than the official ballot may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. 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From ikluft@amdahl.com Thu Mar 30 18:58:40 1995 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: ikluft@amdahl.com (Ian Kluft) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.infosystems.www.misc,comp.infosystems.www.providers,comp.infosystems.www.users Subject: CFV: comp.infosystems.www reorganization Followup-To: poster Date: 29 Mar 1995 18:24:44 -0500 Organization: UVV - UseNet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 298 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Expires: 20 Apr 1995 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: References: <3hmj96$pb6@rodan.UU.NET> <3jig5r$o0p@rodan.UU.NET> <3k29od$lqs@rodan.UU.NET> Reply-To: www-reorg-vote@amdahl.com NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:6532 news.groups:142147 comp.infosystems.www.misc:25449 comp.infosystems.www.providers:25428 comp.infosystems.www.users:23156 FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) COMP.INFOSYSTEMS.WWW REORGANIZATION comp.infosystems.www.advocacy unmoderated comp.infosystems.www.browsers.mac unmoderated comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc unmoderated comp.infosystems.www.browsers.ms-windows unmoderated comp.infosystems.www.browsers.x unmoderated comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows unmoderated comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix unmoderated comp.infosystems.www.servers.mac unmoderated comp.infosystems.www.servers.misc unmoderated comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html unmoderated comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi unmoderated comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images unmoderated comp.infosystems.www.authoring.misc unmoderated Newsgroups lines: comp.infosystems.www.advocacy Comments and arguments over the best and worst. comp.infosystems.www.browsers.mac Web browsers for the Macintosh platform. comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc Web browsers for other platforms. comp.infosystems.www.browsers.ms-windows Web browsers for MS Windows. comp.infosystems.www.browsers.x Web browsers for the X-Window system. comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows Web servers for MS Windows and NT. comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix Web servers for UNIX platforms. comp.infosystems.www.servers.mac Web servers for the Macintosh platform. comp.infosystems.www.servers.misc Web servers for other platforms. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html Writing HTML for the Web. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi Writing CGI scripts for the Web. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images Using images, imagemaps on the Web. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.misc Miscellaneous Web authoring issues. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 19 April 1995. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting questions only contact Ian Kluft (the votetaker). For questions about the proposed groups contact Thomas Boutell and M. L. Grant (the proponents). Note: This is the second reorganization of comp.infosystems.www. The previous one occurred in March through May 1994. Details are available at ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/comp/comp.infosystems.www-reorg OFFICIAL SOURCES OF THE CFV The only official sources for copies of this CFV are the UseNet newsgroups to which it is posted including news.announce.newgroups and the e-mail server at www-cfv-request@amdahl.com The CFV server will return a copy of the CFV to the sender. Your message may be empty because any contents will be ignored. RATIONALE This is the rationale for the proposal as submitted by the proponent. Previous divisions appeared to split the groups into classes of people, although this was not intentional. This led to confusion, even to the point of posts to comp.infosystems.www.providers which said "I'm a provider, so I can post whatever I want to comp.infosystems.www.providers." In order to avoid confusion of this sort, the new organization splits by SUBJECT MATTER, not by intended readership. Separate newsgroups for each browser have been suggested, but browsers continually change names, appear and disappear. Most browser questions relate to a specific platform. CHARTERS These are the newsgroup charters as submitted by the proponent. The following newsgroups are to be created. The existing newsgroups comp.infosystems.www.providers and comp.infosystems.www.users will be removed, by renaming comp.infosystems.www.providers to comp.infosystems.www.authoring.misc and comp.infosystems.www.users to comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc. The existing newsgroups comp.infosystems.www.announce and comp.infosystems.www.misc will not be affected. Detailed explanation follows the list; please read the entire post before responding. comp.infosystems.www.advocacy comp.infosystems.www.browsers.mac comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc comp.infosystems.www.browsers.ms-windows comp.infosystems.www.browsers.x comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix comp.infosystems.www.servers.mac comp.infosystems.www.servers.misc comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images comp.infosystems.www.authoring.misc [Note that comp.infosystems.www.announce and comp.infosystems.www.misc already exist and are not affected by the reorganization.] comp.infosystems.www.advocacy This newsgroup is for comments, arguments, debates, and discussions about which Web browsers, servers, external viewer programs, and other software is better or worse than any other. Posts should not be crossposted to this group and to any other Web group. However, this group is a good place to direct follow-ups if a thread in another Web group begins to take on a "this program is better than that one" flavor. Possible subjects include: "The web is better than print"; "Netscape is better than anything else"; "CERN httpd kicks butt"; etc. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html This newsgroup covers discussion of HyperText Markup Language (HTML) as it relates to web page authoring. Possible subjects include HTML editors, formatting tricks, and current and proposed HTML standards. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi This newsgroup covers discussion of the development of Common Gateway Interface (CGI) scripts as they relate to Web page authoring. Possible subjects include discussion how to handle the results of forms, how to generate images on the fly, and how to put together other interactive Web offerings. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images This newsgroup covers discussion of the creation and editing of images as they relate to web page authoring. Possible subjects include how best to leverage the image-display capabilities of the web and common questions and solutions for putting up imagemaps. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.misc This newsgroup covers miscellaneous World-Wide Web authoring issues not covered by the other c.i.w.authoring.* groups. Possible subjects include the use of audio and video, etc. comp.infosystems.www.browsers.mac This newsgroup covers discussion of World-Wide Web browsers for the Macintosh platform. Possible subjects include configuration questions/solutions, external viewers (helper applications), and bug reports. comp.infosystems.www.browsers.ms-windows This newsgroup covers discussion of World-Wide Web browsers for the MS Windows and NT platforms. Possible subjects include configuration questions/solutions, external viewers (helper applications), and bug reports. comp.infosystems.www.browsers.x This newsgroup covers discussion of World-Wide Web browsers for the X-Window system. Possible subjects include configuration questions/solutions, external viewers (helper applications), and bug reports. comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc This newsgroup covers discussion of World-Wide Web browsers for all other platforms. Possible subjects include configuration questions/solutions, external viewers (helper applications), and bug reports. Platforms included are Amiga, DOS (*not* Windows), VMS, and Unix text-mode. comp.infosystems.www.servers.mac This newsgroup covers discussion of World-Wide Web servers for the Macintosh (MacOS) platform. Possible subjects include configuration questions/solutions, security issues, directory structure, and bug reports. comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows This newsgroup covers discussion of World-Wide Web servers for the MS Windows and NT platforms. Possible subjects include configuration questions/solutions, security issues, directory structure, and bug reports. comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix This newsgroup covers discussion of World-Wide Web servers for Unix platforms. Possible subjects include configuration questions/solutions, security issues, directory structure, and bug reports. comp.infosystems.www.servers.misc This newsgroup covers discussion of World-Wide Web servers for other platforms, such as Amiga, VMS, and others. Possible subjects include configuration questions/solutions, security issues, directory structure, and bug reports. comp.infosystems.www.misc Miscellaneous World-Wide Web discussion which does not fit into the above categories. This group already exits and will not change. comp.infosystems.www.announce Announcements of new and updated Web resources. This group already exists and will not change. HOW TO VOTE Erase everything above the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" line and erase everything below the "END OF BALLOT" line. Do not erase anything between these lines and do not change the group names. Basically, remove everything except the ballot - we have to save them all on disk. Give your name on the line that asks for it. For each group, place a YES or NO in the brackets next to it to vote for or against it. If you don't want to vote on a particular group, just leave the space blank. Don't worry about spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your reply inserts. Then mail the ballot to: www-reorg-vote@amdahl.com Just Replying to this message should work, but check the "To:" line. Quick voting checklist: 1) Fill in the ballot form shown below. 2) Delete the rest of the CFV from your reply. 3) Make sure your reply goes to www-reorg-vote@amdahl.com ========== BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete everything before this line ========== Official ballots are distributed blank. If | 1ST CFV 2ND REORGANIZATION you see any votes filled in below, except for | COMP.INFOSYSTEMS.WWW the yes/no/abstain examples, get an official | Official UseNet Voting Ballot CFV & ballot from www-cfv-request@amdahl.com | ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Give your real name here: [Your Vote] Group ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ YES ] example.yes.vote [ NO ] example.no.vote [ ABSTAIN ] example.abstention [ ] comp.infosystems.www.advocacy [ ] comp.infosystems.www.browsers.mac [ ] comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc (replaces comp.infosystems.www.users) [ ] comp.infosystems.www.browsers.ms-windows [ ] comp.infosystems.www.browsers.x [ ] comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows [ ] comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix [ ] comp.infosystems.www.servers.mac [ ] comp.infosystems.www.servers.misc [ ] comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html [ ] comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi [ ] comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images [ ] comp.infosystems.www.authoring.misc (replaces comp.infosystems.www.providers) ============= END OF BALLOT: Delete everything after this line ============== IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES Anything other than the official ballot may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with an automated acknowledgement by e-mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly. Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list. Duplicate votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote. Anonymous votes will not be accepted. Votes mailed by WWW/HTML forms are considered anonymous votes. (The vote must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker.) In cases where voting fraud is determined to have occurred, it is standard operating procedure to delete ALL votes submitted by the violator. Anyone who distributes pre-filled ballots or modified copies of this CFV commits voting fraud. If you give anyone copies of the CFV, the copies must be whole and unmodified. When in doubt, ask the votetaker. From ikluft@amdahl.com Fri Apr 14 17:43:53 1995 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: ikluft@amdahl.com (Ian Kluft) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.infosystems.www.misc,comp.infosystems.www.providers,comp.infosystems.www.users Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.infosystems.www reorganization Supersedes: Followup-To: poster Date: 11 Apr 1995 18:10:51 -0400 Organization: UVV - UseNet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 317 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Expires: 20 Apr 1995 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: References: <3hmj96$pb6@rodan.UU.NET> <3jig5r$o0p@rodan.UU.NET> <3k29od$lqs@rodan.UU.NET> Reply-To: www-reorg-vote@amdahl.com NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:6595 news.groups:144340 comp.infosystems.www.misc:26969 comp.infosystems.www.providers:27224 comp.infosystems.www.users:24563 LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) COMP.INFOSYSTEMS.WWW REORGANIZATION comp.infosystems.www.advocacy unmoderated comp.infosystems.www.browsers.mac unmoderated comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc unmoderated - replaces comp.infosystems.www.users comp.infosystems.www.browsers.ms-windows unmoderated comp.infosystems.www.browsers.x unmoderated comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows unmoderated comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix unmoderated comp.infosystems.www.servers.mac unmoderated comp.infosystems.www.servers.misc unmoderated comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html unmoderated comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi unmoderated comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images unmoderated comp.infosystems.www.authoring.misc unmoderated - replaces comp.infosystems.www.providers Newsgroups lines: comp.infosystems.www.advocacy Comments and arguments over the best and worst. comp.infosystems.www.browsers.mac Web browsers for the Macintosh platform. comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc Web browsers for other platforms. comp.infosystems.www.browsers.ms-windows Web browsers for MS Windows. comp.infosystems.www.browsers.x Web browsers for the X-Window system. comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows Web servers for MS Windows and NT. comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix Web servers for UNIX platforms. comp.infosystems.www.servers.mac Web servers for the Macintosh platform. comp.infosystems.www.servers.misc Web servers for other platforms. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html Writing HTML for the Web. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi Writing CGI scripts for the Web. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images Using images, imagemaps on the Web. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.misc Miscellaneous Web authoring issues. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 19 April 1995. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. For voting questions only contact Ian Kluft (the votetaker). For questions about the proposed groups contact Thomas Boutell and M. L. Grant (the proponents). Note: This is the second reorganization of comp.infosystems.www. The previous one occurred in March through May 1994. Details are available at ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announce.newgroups/comp/comp.infosystems.www-reorg OFFICIAL SOURCES OF THE CFV The only official sources for copies of this CFV are the UseNet newsgroups to which it is posted including news.announce.newgroups and the e-mail server at www-cfv-request@amdahl.com The CFV server will return a copy of the CFV to the sender. Your message may be empty because any contents will be ignored. RATIONALE This is the rationale for the proposal as submitted by the proponent. Previous divisions appeared to split the groups into classes of people, although this was not intentional. This led to confusion, even to the point of posts to comp.infosystems.www.providers which said "I'm a provider, so I can post whatever I want to comp.infosystems.www.providers." In order to avoid confusion of this sort, the new organization splits by SUBJECT MATTER, not by intended readership. Separate newsgroups for each browser have been suggested, but browsers continually change names, appear and disappear. Most browser questions relate to a specific platform. CHARTERS These are the newsgroup charters as submitted by the proponent. [votetaker's note: a clarification has been added to these descriptions that comp.infosystems.www.authoring.misc replaces comp.infosystems.www.providers and comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc replaces comp.infosystems.www.users. These were previously only listed at the introductory paragraph of the charters and on the ballot form.] The following newsgroups are to be created. The existing newsgroups comp.infosystems.www.providers and comp.infosystems.www.users will be removed, by renaming comp.infosystems.www.providers to comp.infosystems.www.authoring.misc and comp.infosystems.www.users to comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc. The existing newsgroups comp.infosystems.www.announce and comp.infosystems.www.misc will not be affected. Detailed explanation follows the list; please read the entire post before responding. comp.infosystems.www.advocacy comp.infosystems.www.browsers.mac comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc comp.infosystems.www.browsers.ms-windows comp.infosystems.www.browsers.x comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix comp.infosystems.www.servers.mac comp.infosystems.www.servers.misc comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images comp.infosystems.www.authoring.misc [Note that comp.infosystems.www.announce and comp.infosystems.www.misc already exist and are not affected by the reorganization.] comp.infosystems.www.advocacy This newsgroup is for comments, arguments, debates, and discussions about which Web browsers, servers, external viewer programs, and other software is better or worse than any other. Posts should not be crossposted to this group and to any other Web group. However, this group is a good place to direct follow-ups if a thread in another Web group begins to take on a "this program is better than that one" flavor. Possible subjects include: "The web is better than print"; "Netscape is better than anything else"; "CERN httpd kicks butt"; etc. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html This newsgroup covers discussion of HyperText Markup Language (HTML) as it relates to web page authoring. Possible subjects include HTML editors, formatting tricks, and current and proposed HTML standards. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi This newsgroup covers discussion of the development of Common Gateway Interface (CGI) scripts as they relate to Web page authoring. Possible subjects include discussion how to handle the results of forms, how to generate images on the fly, and how to put together other interactive Web offerings. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images This newsgroup covers discussion of the creation and editing of images as they relate to web page authoring. Possible subjects include how best to leverage the image-display capabilities of the web and common questions and solutions for putting up imagemaps. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.misc (replaces comp.infosystems.www.providers) This newsgroup covers miscellaneous World-Wide Web authoring issues not covered by the other c.i.w.authoring.* groups. Possible subjects include the use of audio and video, etc. comp.infosystems.www.browsers.mac This newsgroup covers discussion of World-Wide Web browsers for the Macintosh platform. Possible subjects include configuration questions/solutions, external viewers (helper applications), and bug reports. comp.infosystems.www.browsers.ms-windows This newsgroup covers discussion of World-Wide Web browsers for the MS Windows and NT platforms. Possible subjects include configuration questions/solutions, external viewers (helper applications), and bug reports. comp.infosystems.www.browsers.x This newsgroup covers discussion of World-Wide Web browsers for the X-Window system. Possible subjects include configuration questions/solutions, external viewers (helper applications), and bug reports. comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc (replaces comp.infosystems.www.users) This newsgroup covers discussion of World-Wide Web browsers for all other platforms. Possible subjects include configuration questions/solutions, external viewers (helper applications), and bug reports. Platforms included are Amiga, DOS (*not* Windows), VMS, and Unix text-mode. comp.infosystems.www.servers.mac This newsgroup covers discussion of World-Wide Web servers for the Macintosh (MacOS) platform. Possible subjects include configuration questions/solutions, security issues, directory structure, and bug reports. comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows This newsgroup covers discussion of World-Wide Web servers for the MS Windows and NT platforms. Possible subjects include configuration questions/solutions, security issues, directory structure, and bug reports. comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix This newsgroup covers discussion of World-Wide Web servers for Unix platforms. Possible subjects include configuration questions/solutions, security issues, directory structure, and bug reports. comp.infosystems.www.servers.misc This newsgroup covers discussion of World-Wide Web servers for other platforms, such as Amiga, VMS, and others. Possible subjects include configuration questions/solutions, security issues, directory structure, and bug reports. comp.infosystems.www.misc Miscellaneous World-Wide Web discussion which does not fit into the above categories. This group already exits and will not change. comp.infosystems.www.announce Announcements of new and updated Web resources. This group already exists and will not change. HOW TO VOTE Erase everything above the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" line and erase everything below the "END OF BALLOT" line. Do not erase anything between these lines and do not change the group names. Basically, remove everything except the ballot - we have to save them all on disk. Give your name on the line that asks for it. For each group, place a YES or NO in the brackets next to it to vote for or against it. If you don't want to vote on a particular group, just leave the space blank. Don't worry about spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your reply inserts. Then mail the ballot to: www-reorg-vote@amdahl.com Just Replying to this message should work, but check the "To:" line. Quick voting checklist: 1) Fill in the ballot form shown below. 2) Delete the rest of the CFV from your reply. 3) Make sure your reply goes to www-reorg-vote@amdahl.com ========== BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete everything before this line ========== Official ballots are distributed blank. If | 1ST CFV 2ND REORGANIZATION you see any votes filled in below, except for | COMP.INFOSYSTEMS.WWW the yes/no/abstain examples, get an official | Official UseNet Voting Ballot CFV & ballot from www-cfv-request@amdahl.com | ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Give your real name here: [Your Vote] Group ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ YES ] example.yes.vote [ NO ] example.no.vote [ ABSTAIN ] example.abstention [ ] comp.infosystems.www.advocacy [ ] comp.infosystems.www.browsers.mac [ ] comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc (replaces comp.infosystems.www.users) [ ] comp.infosystems.www.browsers.ms-windows [ ] comp.infosystems.www.browsers.x [ ] comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows [ ] comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix [ ] comp.infosystems.www.servers.mac [ ] comp.infosystems.www.servers.misc [ ] comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html [ ] comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi [ ] comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images [ ] comp.infosystems.www.authoring.misc (replaces comp.infosystems.www.providers) ============= END OF BALLOT: Delete everything after this line ============== IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES Anything other than the official ballot may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program. The votetaker will respond to your received ballots with an automated acknowledgement by e-mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly. Only one vote per person, no more than one vote per account. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list. Duplicate votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote. Anonymous votes will not be accepted. Votes mailed by WWW/HTML forms are considered anonymous votes. (The vote must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker.) In cases where voting fraud is determined to have occurred, it is standard operating procedure to delete ALL votes submitted by the violator. Anyone who distributes pre-filled ballots or modified copies of this CFV commits voting fraud. If you give anyone copies of the CFV, the copies must be whole and unmodified. When in doubt, ask the votetaker. comp.infosystems.www reorg Bounce List - No need to revote ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ k71855@sherpa4.data.st.statoil.no Hans Lie lavoie@gemini Philippe Lavoie parker@dorite Scott Parker tbas@sybase.com Tony Basoglu From ikluft@amdahl.com Thu Apr 20 22:01:04 1995 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: ikluft@amdahl.com (Ian Kluft) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.infosystems.www.misc,comp.infosystems.www.providers,comp.infosystems.www.users Subject: RESULT: comp.infosystems.www reorganization passes Supersedes: Followup-To: news.groups Date: 20 Apr 1995 15:28:59 -0400 Organization: UVV - UseNet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 700 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: References: <3hmj96$pb6@rodan.UU.NET> <3jig5r$o0p@rodan.UU.NET> <3k29od$lqs@rodan.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Xref: gs2.UU.NET news.announce.newgroups:6675 news.groups:145575 comp.infosystems.www.misc:28094 comp.infosystems.www.providers:28339 comp.infosystems.www.users:25586 RESULT comp.infosystems.www reorganization Voting for the comp.infosystems.www reorganization vote ended 23:59:59 GMT, 19 April 1995. This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. For questions about voting procedures only contact Ian Kluft (the votetaker). For questions about the newsgroups contact Thomas Boutell and M. L. Grant (the proponents). There were 419 valid votes submitted during the voting period. Each proposed newsgroup, in order to pass, must have at least 2/3 YES votes and at least 100 more YES than NO votes. The results are as follows: comp.infosystems.www reorg results - 419 valid votes Yes No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group ---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : ------------------------------------------- 339 45 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.infosystems.www.advocacy 342 37 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.infosystems.www.browsers.mac 385 22 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc 352 39 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.infosystems.www.browsers.ms-windows 354 34 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.infosystems.www.browsers.x 335 45 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows 362 29 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix 330 44 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.infosystems.www.servers.mac 379 19 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.infosystems.www.servers.misc 390 18 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html 373 24 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi 349 48 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images 387 19 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.infosystems.www.authoring.misc 9 invalid votes All parts of the proposal passed. There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted. If no serious and significant allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the newsgroups shortly thereafter. The following newsgroups will be removed on 26 July 1995: comp.infosystems.www.users (replaced by comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc) comp.infosystems.www.providers (replaced by comp.infosystems.www.authoring.misc) The remainder of the results contains Newsgroups Lines Charters Final Voting Acknowledgements Voting Analysis NEWSGROUPS LINES comp.infosystems.www.advocacy Comments and arguments over the best and worst. comp.infosystems.www.browsers.mac Web browsers for the Macintosh platform. comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc Web browsers for other platforms. comp.infosystems.www.browsers.ms-windows Web browsers for MS Windows. comp.infosystems.www.browsers.x Web browsers for the X-Window system. comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows Web servers for MS Windows and NT. comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix Web servers for UNIX platforms. comp.infosystems.www.servers.mac Web servers for the Macintosh platform. comp.infosystems.www.servers.misc Web servers for other platforms. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html Writing HTML for the Web. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi Writing CGI scripts for the Web. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images Using images, imagemaps on the Web. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.misc Miscellaneous Web authoring issues. CHARTERS These are the newsgroup charters as submitted by the proponent. The following newsgroups are to be created. The existing newsgroups comp.infosystems.www.providers and comp.infosystems.www.users will be removed, by renaming comp.infosystems.www.providers to comp.infosystems.www.authoring.misc and comp.infosystems.www.users to comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc. The existing newsgroups comp.infosystems.www.announce and comp.infosystems.www.misc will not be affected. Detailed explanation follows the list; please read the entire post before responding. comp.infosystems.www.advocacy comp.infosystems.www.browsers.mac comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc comp.infosystems.www.browsers.ms-windows comp.infosystems.www.browsers.x comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix comp.infosystems.www.servers.mac comp.infosystems.www.servers.misc comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images comp.infosystems.www.authoring.misc [Note that comp.infosystems.www.announce and comp.infosystems.www.misc already exist and are not affected by the reorganization.] comp.infosystems.www.advocacy This newsgroup is for comments, arguments, debates, and discussions about which Web browsers, servers, external viewer programs, and other software is better or worse than any other. Posts should not be crossposted to this group and to any other Web group. However, this group is a good place to direct follow-ups if a thread in another Web group begins to take on a "this program is better than that one" flavor. Possible subjects include: "The web is better than print"; "Netscape is better than anything else"; "CERN httpd kicks butt"; etc. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html This newsgroup covers discussion of HyperText Markup Language (HTML) as it relates to web page authoring. Possible subjects include HTML editors, formatting tricks, and current and proposed HTML standards. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi This newsgroup covers discussion of the development of Common Gateway Interface (CGI) scripts as they relate to Web page authoring. Possible subjects include discussion how to handle the results of forms, how to generate images on the fly, and how to put together other interactive Web offerings. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images This newsgroup covers discussion of the creation and editing of images as they relate to web page authoring. Possible subjects include how best to leverage the image-display capabilities of the web and common questions and solutions for putting up imagemaps. comp.infosystems.www.authoring.misc This newsgroup covers miscellaneous World-Wide Web authoring issues not covered by the other c.i.w.authoring.* groups. Possible subjects include the use of audio and video, etc. comp.infosystems.www.browsers.mac This newsgroup covers discussion of World-Wide Web browsers for the Macintosh platform. Possible subjects include configuration questions/solutions, external viewers (helper applications), and bug reports. comp.infosystems.www.browsers.ms-windows This newsgroup covers discussion of World-Wide Web browsers for the MS Windows and NT platforms. Possible subjects include configuration questions/solutions, external viewers (helper applications), and bug reports. comp.infosystems.www.browsers.x This newsgroup covers discussion of World-Wide Web browsers for the X-Window system. Possible subjects include configuration questions/solutions, external viewers (helper applications), and bug reports. comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc This newsgroup covers discussion of World-Wide Web browsers for all other platforms. Possible subjects include configuration questions/solutions, external viewers (helper applications), and bug reports. Platforms included are Amiga, DOS (*not* Windows), VMS, and Unix text-mode. comp.infosystems.www.servers.mac This newsgroup covers discussion of World-Wide Web servers for the Macintosh (MacOS) platform. Possible subjects include configuration questions/solutions, security issues, directory structure, and bug reports. comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows This newsgroup covers discussion of World-Wide Web servers for the MS Windows and NT platforms. Possible subjects include configuration questions/solutions, security issues, directory structure, and bug reports. comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix This newsgroup covers discussion of World-Wide Web servers for Unix platforms. Possible subjects include configuration questions/solutions, security issues, directory structure, and bug reports. comp.infosystems.www.servers.misc This newsgroup covers discussion of World-Wide Web servers for other platforms, such as Amiga, VMS, and others. Possible subjects include configuration questions/solutions, security issues, directory structure, and bug reports. comp.infosystems.www.misc Miscellaneous World-Wide Web discussion which does not fit into the above categories. This group already exits and will not change. comp.infosystems.www.announce Announcements of new and updated Web resources. This group already exists and will not change. FINAL VOTING ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS comp.infosystems.www.authoring.misc ---------------+ comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images --------------+| comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi -------------+|| comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html ------------+||| comp.infosystems.www.servers.misc -----------+|||| comp.infosystems.www.servers.mac ----------+||||| comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix ---------+|||||| comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows --------+||||||| comp.infosystems.www.browsers.x -------+|||||||| comp.infosystems.www.browsers.ms-windows ------+||||||||| comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc -----+|||||||||| comp.infosystems.www.browsers.mac ----+||||||||||| comp.infosystems.www.advocacy ---+|||||||||||| ||||||||||||| A.H.Henry@bath.ac.uk --YYY-Y-YYYYY aadrrd1@peabody.sct.ucarb.com Alan Ronemus YYYYYYYYYYYYY aahz@netcom.com Aahz YYYYYYYYYYYYY aaronrp@best.com Aaron Priven YYYYYYYYYYYYY abm@digital.net Al Meador -NYNNNNNYNNNY ache@astral.msk.su Andrey A. 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Walter YYYY-YY-YYYYY skip@automatrix.com Skip Montanaro YYYYYYYYYYYYY smd@PrimeNet.Com Stephen Diamond YYYYYYYYYYYYY snabb@niksula.hut.fi Janne Snabb YYYYYYYYYYYYY snevel@crl.com Simeon ben Nevel YYYYYYYYYYYYY sparre@phyast.pitt.edu Jacob Sparre Andersen YYYYYYYYYYYYY SPB@tntv5.ntrs.com Steve Bonine YYYYYYYYYYYYY spcoltri@exmidway.ecn.uoknor.edu Steve Coltrin YYYYYYYYYYYYY spon@macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au Tom McDermott YYYYYYYYYYYYY sr1@irz.inf.tu-dresden.de Sven Rudolph YYYYYYYYYYYYY ssd@tad.eds.com Sean Dowd YYYYYNYNYYYNY st@stardiv.de Stefan Taxhet YYYYY-YYYYYYY stainles@bga.com Dwight Brown NNNNNNNNNNNNN starling@cpdee.ufmg.br Luiz Carlos Portugal Starling YYYYYYYYYYYYY steintr@intac.com Russell Steinthal YYYYYYYYYYYYY Stephane.Laveau@sophia.inria.fr Stephane Laveau YYYYYYYYYYYYY steve@omniplus.com Steve Mitchell YYYYYYYYYYYYY steve@vigra.com Steve Haehnichen NYYYYYYYYYYYY steveg@pa.dec.com YYYYYYYYYYYYY stevejg@wni.com Steve Green YYYYYYYYYYYYY stewa@etek.chalmers.se Stefan Waborg YYYYYYYYYYYYY stone001@nelle.mc.duke.edu Alan Stone YYYYYYYYYYYYY stricherz@masig.fsu.edu James Stricherz (stricherz@coaps.fsu. YYYYYYYYYYYYY stuart.antcliff@bt-sys.bt.co.uk Stuart Antcliff YYY----YYYY-- stullr@css583.GORDON.ARMY.MIL Robert S. Stull YYYYYYYYYYYYY styx@amanda.dorsai.org William Hao YYYYYYYYYYYYY sumrn@crd.GE.COM Robert Sum YYYYYYYYYYYYY SUPERVISOR@ipe.et.uni-magdeburg.de Martin Wollschlaeger YYYYYYYYYYYYY sverker.forsberg@radek.slu.se Sverker Forsberg YYYYYYYYYYYYY swhatle@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM Steven Whatley YYYYYYYYYYYYY sxs@psu.edu Steven A. Schrader YYYYYYYYYYYYY taavi@vs.ee Taavi Talvik YYYYYYYYYYYYY taft@cs.unc.edu Todd D. Taft YYYYYYYYYYYYY takata@umich.edu Azumi Ann Takata YYYYYYYYYYYYY taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw Brian Tao YYYYYYYYYYYYY tbas@sybase.com Tony Basoglu YYYYYYYYYYYYY techint@winternet.com Technical Intelligence-MN-USA YYYYYYYYYYYYY ted.smith@cdmg.uucp.netcom.com TED SMITH Y-YY-YY-Y--YY terra@PrimeNet.Com Terra NY-YYYYY-YYY- tes@zombie.ncsc.mil Terry Suitor YYYYYYYYYYYYY Tim.Bunce@ig.co.uk Tim Bunce YYYYYYYYYYYYY TIMMI@UMWELT.ecolink.org YYYYYYYYYYYYY tina@tezcat.com Discord (Tina Sikorski) --YY-YY-YYY-Y tobin.anthony@gsfc.nasa.gov Tobin C. Anthony YYYYYYYYYYYYY tonyd@dvcorp.com Anthony DeStefanis -NYNNYYYYYYYY treber@telenet.de Christian Treber YYYYYYYYYYYYY trondare@hsr.no Y-YYYYYNYYYYY tuusital@butler.cc.tut.fi Teuvo Uusitalo YYYYYYYYYYYYY twpierce@midway.uchicago.edu Tim Pierce YYYYYYYYYYYYY tyketto@cwis.unomaha.edu Brad Littlejohn YYYYYYYYYYYYY untulis@netcom.com Jason Untulis YYY-Y--YYYYNY UZ33105@vm1.ulg.ac.be Van de Paar YYYYYYYYYYYYY vampyr@acs.bu.edu Eamon Daly YYYYYYYYYYYNY vit0202@comune.bologna.it Aldo Brucale -YYYYYYYYYYNN vparada@inf.utfsm.cl Victor Parada YYYYYYYYYYYYY walterg@YorkU.CA Walter W. Giesbrecht YYYYYYYYYYYYY warkentyne@di.epfl.ch Ken Warkentyne --Y-Y-Y-YYYYY Warren.Jones@per.dmp.csiro.au Warren Jones YYYYYYYYYYYYY wbd@pmafire.inel.gov W. Brad DeBow YYYYYYYYYYYYY widmeyer@umich.edu George Widmeyer YYYYYYYYYYYYY WILLIAMSCA@HIRAM.EDU Curtis Williams NYYYYYYYYYYYY winter@vision.rs.ch Martin Winter YYYYYYYYYYYYY wstearns@cybermalls.com William Stearns YYYYYYYYYYYYY wtb10@juts.ccc.amdahl.com Wilton Byrum YYYYYYYYYYYYY yuval.kfir@Indigo.co.il Yuval Kfir NYYYYYYYYYYYY zamorski@execpc.com Richard J. Zamorski YYYYYYYYYYYYY zeus@jhu.edu Jeffrey M. Odom NYYYYYYYYYYYY Votes in error ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ bruce.white@dse.mpx.com.au Bruce White ! No ballot dmon@ipac.net Julie Meloni ! No ballot hyer@tigger.jvnc.net Warren "Clint" Hyer ! No ballot jsnell@macuser.ziff.com Jason Snell ! No ballot leobueno@netpoint.net Leo Bueno ! No ballot marie-christine.mahe@yale.edu Marie-Christine Mahe ! No ballot mgm@xmission.com michael moncur ! No ballot Post_Office@tyrellco.com Post Office ! No ballot sfarmer@sabre.goldsword.com Susan B. Farmer ! No vote statement in message VOTING ANALYSIS All dates and times in this section are in US Pacific Time, standard or daylight time as appropriate. (Pacific Daylight Time began April 2 at 2AM.) The first vote arrived at Wed Mar 29 15:35:59 1995. comp.infosystems.www.advocacy passed on Sat Apr 1 13:06:54 1995 comp.infosystems.www.browsers.mac passed on Fri Mar 31 10:33:55 1995 comp.infosystems.www.browsers.misc passed on Fri Mar 31 00:15:57 1995 comp.infosystems.www.browsers.ms-windows passed on Fri Mar 31 10:53:40 1995 comp.infosystems.www.browsers.x passed on Fri Mar 31 08:23:47 1995 comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows passed on Sat Apr 1 05:33:12 1995 comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix passed on Fri Mar 31 11:53:48 1995 comp.infosystems.www.servers.mac passed on Sat Apr 1 04:57:15 1995 comp.infosystems.www.servers.misc passed on Fri Mar 31 01:12:55 1995 comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html passed on Fri Mar 31 00:50:47 1995 comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi passed on Fri Mar 31 02:53:28 1995 comp.infosystems.www.authoring.images passed on Fri Mar 31 12:33:03 1995 comp.infosystems.www.authoring.misc passed on Thu Mar 30 23:54:40 1995 Supplemental graphs of vote totals, arrival rates, ratios, and differences have been made available by the votetaker at the following URL on the World-Wide Web: http://www.amdahl.com/~ikluft/c.i.www/