From david@davidthornton.com Mon Jul 21 00:00:07 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: David Thornton Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.graphics.apps.freehand,comp.graphics.misc,comp.graphics.apps.photoshop,comp.graphics.apps.corel,alt.fractal-design.painter,comp.sys.mac.graphics Subject: RFD: comp.graphics.apps.painter Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <869468264.12242@isc.org> Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Archive-Name: comp.graphics.apps.painter Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 06:57:44 GMT Lines: 120 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:589 REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) unmoderated group comp.graphics.apps.painter Newsgroup line: comp.graphics.apps.painter MetaCreations Painter. This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a world-wide unmoderated Usenet newsgroup comp.graphics.apps.painter. This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details are below. RATIONALE: comp.graphics.apps.painter MetaCreations Painter (formally known as Fractal Design Painter before the company merged with MetaTools) is probably the best natural painting software application in the world. A large number of graphic artists make use of the application and it is probably the same to natural painting as Adobe Photoshop is to bitmap editing and image processing. Painter is a world-leading software package. The large Painter user-base suggests that there is a need for a forum where people can start discussions on all aspects of graphic design involving Painter. Usenet newsgroups already exist for other major graphics applications such as Adobe Photoshop, Macromedia Freehand and Corel graphics software. Discussion of Painter currently occurs in the alt.fractal- design.painter newsgroup. Unfortunately there are several problems with this newsgroup: 1. Newsgroups in the alt.* hierarchy are not available on all news servers. Newsgroups in the comp.* hierarchy are more likely to be available on the majority of news servers. 2. The existing alt.* newsgroups is heavily spammed with inappropriate messages. This is typical of alt.* level newsgroups and was the reason for the creation of a number of existing comp.graphics.apps.* newsgroups. 3. Fractal Design recently merged with MetaTools to form MetaCreations. The name of the existing newsgroup is now inappropriate because of this. 4. The existing alt.* level newsgroups is isolated away from all the other graphics newsgroups. This makes it difficult to find. MetaCreations recently launched Painter 5.0 for both Windows and Macintosh computers. A recent pole suggested that a new newsgroup for the discussion of Painter is required, to provide users with a place to learn how to fully utilise the capbilities of this powerful software application. CHARTER: comp.graphics.apps.painter The proposed newsgroup would provide a place for the discussion of the MetaCreations Painter software application, available on all computer platforms. Tips, tricks and informational postings would be welcomed as would mutual assistance and support. The newsgroup would not be moderated and would have no official ties or connections with any commercial vendor or developer. Binary postings are not permitted in comp.graphics.apps.painter under any circumstances. A separate newsgroup will be created in the alt.* hierarchy where binary files relating to messages in the comp.graphics.apps.painter newsgroup can be posted. The binary newsgroup will be called alt.binaries.comp.graphics.apps.painter and it will be created shortly after comp.graphics.apps.painter. Users of comp.graphics.apps.painter should indicate in their messages that binaries have been posted to the separate newsgroup, including the name of the binary, should this be the case. It is possible that some people will post messages asking for illegal copies of software to the newsgroup. Users are encouraged not to follow up or reply to these messages in the newsgroup and to simply ignore them. The newsgroup is for information and support. It is not a marketplace, and advertising of any kind is not permitted. Moneymaking schemes, chain letters, excessive crossposting and reposting is also inappropriate. With all violations of the charter, users are encouraged not to follow them up or reply to them in the newsgroup. If you must follow them up, please do so by email. This prevents the newsgroup from deteriorating any further. END CHARTER. PROCEDURE: This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroup should be raised and resolved. The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion warrants it. Please do not attempt to vote until this happens. All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups. This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal". Please refer to these documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any questions about the process. DISTRIBUTION: This RFD will be cross-posted to the following relevant newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, comp.graphics.apps.freehand, comp.graphics.misc, comp.graphics.apps.photoshop, comp.graphics.apps.corel, alt.fractal-design.painter, comp.sys.mac.graphics It will also be made available to relevant private mailing lists, related forums and web sites once it has been posted to Usenet. -- Proponent: David Thornton Visit http://davidthornton.com for more information about the proposed comp.graphics.apps.{illustrator,micrografx,misc,painter,xpress} Usenet newsgroups. From mcq@wco.com Mon Sep 8 13:16:14 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: mcq@wco.com (Rebecca McQuitty) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.fractal-design.painter,comp.graphics.apps.corel,comp.graphics.apps.freehand,comp.graphics.apps.photoshop,comp.graphics.misc,comp.sys.mac.graphics Subject: CFV: comp.graphics.apps.painter Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <873366954.13289@isc.org> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Expires: 26 Sep 1997 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: comp.graphics.apps.painter Date: Thu, 04 Sep 1997 09:55:54 GMT Lines: 172 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:739 FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) unmoderated group comp.graphics.apps.painter Newsgroups line: comp.graphics.apps.painter MetaCreations Painter. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 25 Sep 1997. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: David Thornton Votetaker: Rebecca McQuitty RATIONALE: comp.graphics.apps.painter MetaCreations Painter (formally known as Fractal Design Painter before the company merged with MetaTools) is probably the best natural painting software application in the world. A large number of graphic artists make use of the application and it is probably the same to natural painting as Adobe Photoshop is to bitmap editing and image processing. Painter is a world-leading software package. The large Painter user-base suggests that there is a need for a forum where people can start discussions on all aspects of graphic design involving Painter. Usenet newsgroups already exist for other major graphics applications such as Adobe Photoshop, Macromedia Freehand and Corel graphics software. Discussion of Painter currently occurs in the alt.fractal- design.painter newsgroup. Unfortunately there are several problems with this newsgroup: 1. Newsgroups in the alt.* hierarchy are not available on all news servers. Newsgroups in the comp.* hierarchy are more likely to be available on the majority of news servers. 2. The existing alt.* newsgroups is heavily spammed with inappropriate messages. This is typical of alt.* level newsgroups and was the reason for the creation of a number of existing comp.graphics.apps.* newsgroups. 3. Fractal Design recently merged with MetaTools to form MetaCreations. The name of the existing newsgroup is now inappropriate because of this. 4. The existing alt.* level newsgroups is isolated away from all the other graphics newsgroups. This makes it difficult to find. MetaCreations recently launched Painter 5.0 for both Windows and Macintosh computers. A recent pole suggested that a new newsgroup for the discussion of Painter is required, to provide users with a place to learn how to fully utilise the capbilities of this powerful software application. CHARTER: comp.graphics.apps.painter The proposed newsgroup would provide a place for the discussion of the MetaCreations Painter software application, available on all computer platforms. Tips, tricks and informational postings would be welcomed as would mutual assistance and support. The newsgroup would not be moderated and would have no official ties or connections with any commercial vendor or developer. Binary postings are not permitted in comp.graphics.apps.painter under any circumstances. A separate newsgroup will be created in the alt.* hierarchy where binary files relating to messages in the comp.graphics.apps.painter newsgroup can be posted. The binary newsgroup will be called alt.binaries.comp.graphics.apps.painter and it will be created shortly after comp.graphics.apps.painter. Users of comp.graphics.apps.painter should indicate in their messages that binaries have been posted to the separate newsgroup, including the name of the binary, should this be the case. It is possible that some people will post messages asking for illegal copies of software to the newsgroup. Users are encouraged not to follow up or reply to these messages in the newsgroup and to simply ignore them. The newsgroup is for information and support. It is not a marketplace, and advertising of any kind is not permitted. Moneymaking schemes, chain letters, excessive crossposting and reposting is also inappropriate. With all violations of the charter, users are encouraged not to follow them up or reply to them in the newsgroup. If you must follow them up, please do so by email. This prevents the newsgroup from deteriorating any further. END CHARTER. IMPORTANT VOTING INFORMATION: Standard Guidelines for voting apply. One vote per person, one vote per account. Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker. Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid. Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered anonymous votes. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results post. Duplicate votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote. The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup. Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose. Please do *not* distribute this CFV; instead, direct people to the official CFV posted to news.announce.newgroups. Distributing pre-marked, incomplete, or otherwise edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud. When in doubt, ask the votetaker. HOW TO VOTE: Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and after the "END OF BALLOT" lines. Please do *not* send the entire CFV back to me! Don't worry about the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your software inserts. Provide your real name on the line that asks for it, and indicate your vote in the brackets beside the group name. Valid votes are YES, NO, ABSTAIN, and CANCEL. Examples of how to properly indicate your vote (do not vote here): [ YES ] example.vote.yes [ NO ] example.vote.no [ ABSTAIN ] example.abstention [ CANCEL ] example.cancellation Do *not* modify, alter or delete any other information in this ballot. Vote counting is automated, and failure to follow these instructions means the software may reject your ballot. When you're finished, mail the ballot to . Just "replying" to this message should work, but check the "To:" line. If you ordinarily use a spam block, please delete it and use a valid address to vote. If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days, contact the votetaker about the problem. You are responsible for reading your ack and making sure your vote is registered correctly. -=-=-=-BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete Everything Before This Line=-=-=-=- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Usenet Ballot: comp.graphics.apps.painter This ballot is distributed blank in a Call for Votes | Leave this posted to news.announce.newgroups or mailed from the | marker here: votetaker. Other ballots may be rejected. | Give your real name on the next line (do not give your email address). Your name --> [Your Vote] Group (Place your vote in the empty brackets below.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [ ] comp.graphics.apps.painter ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -=-=-=-=-=-END OF BALLOT: Delete Everything After This Line-=-=-=-=-=- DISTRIBUTION This CFV has been posted to the following newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups news.groups alt.fractal-design.painter comp.graphics.apps.corel comp.graphics.apps.freehand comp.graphics.apps.photoshop comp.graphics.misc comp.sys.mac.graphics and is available by e-mail from the votetaker. -- Rebecca Graham McQuitty From mcq@wco.com Wed Sep 17 23:30:09 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: mcq@wco.com (Rebecca McQuitty) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.fractal-design.painter,comp.graphics.apps.corel,comp.graphics.apps.freehand,comp.graphics.apps.photoshop,comp.graphics.misc,comp.sys.mac.graphics Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.graphics.apps.painter Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <874564086.2642@isc.org> Supersedes: <873366954.13289@isc.org> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Expires: 26 Sep 1997 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: comp.graphics.apps.painter Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 06:28:07 GMT Lines: 172 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:779 LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) unmoderated group comp.graphics.apps.painter Newsgroups line: comp.graphics.apps.painter MetaCreations Painter. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 25 Sep 1997. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: David Thornton Votetaker: Rebecca McQuitty RATIONALE: comp.graphics.apps.painter MetaCreations Painter (formally known as Fractal Design Painter before the company merged with MetaTools) is probably the best natural painting software application in the world. A large number of graphic artists make use of the application and it is probably the same to natural painting as Adobe Photoshop is to bitmap editing and image processing. Painter is a world-leading software package. The large Painter user-base suggests that there is a need for a forum where people can start discussions on all aspects of graphic design involving Painter. Usenet newsgroups already exist for other major graphics applications such as Adobe Photoshop, Macromedia Freehand and Corel graphics software. Discussion of Painter currently occurs in the alt.fractal- design.painter newsgroup. Unfortunately there are several problems with this newsgroup: 1. Newsgroups in the alt.* hierarchy are not available on all news servers. Newsgroups in the comp.* hierarchy are more likely to be available on the majority of news servers. 2. The existing alt.* newsgroups is heavily spammed with inappropriate messages. This is typical of alt.* level newsgroups and was the reason for the creation of a number of existing comp.graphics.apps.* newsgroups. 3. Fractal Design recently merged with MetaTools to form MetaCreations. The name of the existing newsgroup is now inappropriate because of this. 4. The existing alt.* level newsgroups is isolated away from all the other graphics newsgroups. This makes it difficult to find. MetaCreations recently launched Painter 5.0 for both Windows and Macintosh computers. A recent pole suggested that a new newsgroup for the discussion of Painter is required, to provide users with a place to learn how to fully utilise the capbilities of this powerful software application. CHARTER: comp.graphics.apps.painter The proposed newsgroup would provide a place for the discussion of the MetaCreations Painter software application, available on all computer platforms. Tips, tricks and informational postings would be welcomed as would mutual assistance and support. The newsgroup would not be moderated and would have no official ties or connections with any commercial vendor or developer. Binary postings are not permitted in comp.graphics.apps.painter under any circumstances. A separate newsgroup will be created in the alt.* hierarchy where binary files relating to messages in the comp.graphics.apps.painter newsgroup can be posted. The binary newsgroup will be called alt.binaries.comp.graphics.apps.painter and it will be created shortly after comp.graphics.apps.painter. Users of comp.graphics.apps.painter should indicate in their messages that binaries have been posted to the separate newsgroup, including the name of the binary, should this be the case. It is possible that some people will post messages asking for illegal copies of software to the newsgroup. Users are encouraged not to follow up or reply to these messages in the newsgroup and to simply ignore them. The newsgroup is for information and support. It is not a marketplace, and advertising of any kind is not permitted. Moneymaking schemes, chain letters, excessive crossposting and reposting is also inappropriate. With all violations of the charter, users are encouraged not to follow them up or reply to them in the newsgroup. If you must follow them up, please do so by email. This prevents the newsgroup from deteriorating any further. END CHARTER. IMPORTANT VOTING INFORMATION: Standard Guidelines for voting apply. One vote per person, one vote per account. Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker. Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid. Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered anonymous votes. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results post. Duplicate votes will be resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote. The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup. Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose. Please do *not* distribute this CFV; instead, direct people to the official CFV posted to news.announce.newgroups. Distributing pre-marked, incomplete, or otherwise edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud. When in doubt, ask the votetaker. HOW TO VOTE: Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and after the "END OF BALLOT" lines. Please do *not* send the entire CFV back to me! Don't worry about the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your software inserts. Provide your real name on the line that asks for it, and indicate your vote in the brackets beside the group name. Valid votes are YES, NO, ABSTAIN, and CANCEL. Examples of how to properly indicate your vote (do not vote here): [ YES ] example.vote.yes [ NO ] example.vote.no [ ABSTAIN ] example.abstention [ CANCEL ] example.cancellation Do *not* modify, alter or delete any other information in this ballot. Vote counting is automated, and failure to follow these instructions means the software may reject your ballot. When you're finished, mail the ballot to . Just "replying" to this message should work, but check the "To:" line. If you ordinarily use a spam block, please delete it and use a valid address to vote. If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days, contact the votetaker about the problem. You are responsible for reading your ack and making sure your vote is registered correctly. -=-=-=-BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete Everything Before This Line=-=-=-=- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Usenet Ballot: comp.graphics.apps.painter This ballot is distributed blank in a Call for Votes | Leave this posted to news.announce.newgroups or mailed from the | marker here: votetaker. Other ballots may be rejected. | Give your real name on the next line (do not give your email address). Your name --> [Your Vote] Group (Place your vote in the empty brackets below.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [ ] comp.graphics.apps.painter ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -=-=-=-=-=-END OF BALLOT: Delete Everything After This Line-=-=-=-=-=- DISTRIBUTION This CFV has been posted to the following newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups news.groups alt.fractal-design.painter comp.graphics.apps.corel comp.graphics.apps.freehand comp.graphics.apps.photoshop comp.graphics.misc comp.sys.mac.graphics and is available by e-mail from the votetaker. -- Rebecca Graham McQuitty From mcq@wco.com Mon Sep 29 23:15:09 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: mcq@wco.com (Rebecca McQuitty) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.fractal-design.painter,comp.graphics.apps.corel,comp.graphics.apps.freehand,comp.graphics.apps.photoshop,comp.graphics.misc,comp.sys.mac.graphics Subject: RESULT: comp.graphics.apps.painter fails 86:20 Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <875599663.10472@isc.org> Supersedes: <874564086.2642@isc.org> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Archive-Name: comp.graphics.apps.painter Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 06:07:44 GMT Lines: 219 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:811 RESULT unmoderated group comp.graphics.apps.painter fails 86:20 There were 86 YES votes and 20 NO votes, for a total of 106 valid votes. There was 1 abstain. For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO) votes. There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted. Unless serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the group may not be voted on again for six months. Newsgroups line: comp.graphics.apps.painter MetaCreations Painter. The voting period closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 25 Sep 1997. This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: David Thornton Votetaker: Rebecca McQuitty RATIONALE: comp.graphics.apps.painter MetaCreations Painter (formally known as Fractal Design Painter before the company merged with MetaTools) is probably the best natural painting software application in the world. A large number of graphic artists make use of the application and it is probably the same to natural painting as Adobe Photoshop is to bitmap editing and image processing. Painter is a world-leading software package. The large Painter user-base suggests that there is a need for a forum where people can start discussions on all aspects of graphic design involving Painter. Usenet newsgroups already exist for other major graphics applications such as Adobe Photoshop, Macromedia Freehand and Corel graphics software. Discussion of Painter currently occurs in the alt.fractal- design.painter newsgroup. Unfortunately there are several problems with this newsgroup: 1. Newsgroups in the alt.* hierarchy are not available on all news servers. Newsgroups in the comp.* hierarchy are more likely to be available on the majority of news servers. 2. The existing alt.* newsgroups is heavily spammed with inappropriate messages. This is typical of alt.* level newsgroups and was the reason for the creation of a number of existing comp.graphics.apps.* newsgroups. 3. Fractal Design recently merged with MetaTools to form MetaCreations. The name of the existing newsgroup is now inappropriate because of this. 4. The existing alt.* level newsgroups is isolated away from all the other graphics newsgroups. This makes it difficult to find. MetaCreations recently launched Painter 5.0 for both Windows and Macintosh computers. A recent pole suggested that a new newsgroup for the discussion of Painter is required, to provide users with a place to learn how to fully utilise the capbilities of this powerful software application. CHARTER: comp.graphics.apps.painter The proposed newsgroup would provide a place for the discussion of the MetaCreations Painter software application, available on all computer platforms. Tips, tricks and informational postings would be welcomed as would mutual assistance and support. The newsgroup would not be moderated and would have no official ties or connections with any commercial vendor or developer. Binary postings are not permitted in comp.graphics.apps.painter under any circumstances. A separate newsgroup will be created in the alt.* hierarchy where binary files relating to messages in the comp.graphics.apps.painter newsgroup can be posted. The binary newsgroup will be called alt.binaries.comp.graphics.apps.painter and it will be created shortly after comp.graphics.apps.painter. Users of comp.graphics.apps.painter should indicate in their messages that binaries have been posted to the separate newsgroup, including the name of the binary, should this be the case. It is possible that some people will post messages asking for illegal copies of software to the newsgroup. Users are encouraged not to follow up or reply to these messages in the newsgroup and to simply ignore them. The newsgroup is for information and support. It is not a marketplace, and advertising of any kind is not permitted. Moneymaking schemes, chain letters, excessive crossposting and reposting is also inappropriate. With all violations of the charter, users are encouraged not to follow them up or reply to them in the newsgroup. If you must follow them up, please do so by email. This prevents the newsgroup from deteriorating any further. END CHARTER. comp.graphics.apps.painter Final Vote Ack Voted Yes ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ag@cameronknight.demon.co.uk AG alan.ralph@ukonline.co.uk Alan Ralph april@syclo.com David April auto-reject@eraserco.demon.co.uk Malcolm Loades bobt@nr.net Robert Thompson bocegueda@tmisnet.com Robert Ocegueda boud@rempt.xs4all.nl Boudewijn Rempt BRI_Zone@msn.com Brian Witter bunte@xilinx.com Dave Bunte ceriess@earthlink.net Chris Riess charles@edobarn.demon.co.uk Charles Burns chuckhoffmann@mindspring.com Chuck Hoffmann claymore@spl.co.za Graeme Adamson david@davidthornton.com David Thornton davin@panix.com DiPweb@compuserve.com Thomas Lindstrom - DiP divsoft@pagan.net Ian Firth djs@ionet.net Don Singleton dpwstory@tiac.net David P. White dvdrmb@mbox.vol.it Davide GeorgesRosset@iprolink.ch Georges Rosset Gerald.Huber@geographie.uni-regensburg.de Gerald Huber hall-family@worldnet.att.net Bill Hall hsauer@marnie.teuto.de Henning Sauer janman@usa.net Jan Morell jconway@macprosinc.com James Conway jeffsj@execpc.com Jeffery S. Jones jesp@intercable.net eugenio sanchez jgefter@ix.netcom.com Judith Gefter jkanuch@sirius.com Joseph Kanuch jklimm@capecod.net J.C. Klimm jlouis@xtra.co.nz Jeff Louis jloven@edgenet.net Jason Loven jrice@unimax.com J. C. Rice julesd@fwb.gulf.net Jules Dubois kimdv@best.com Kim DeVaughn KJMQ25A@prodigy.com Ian Belvin klg+@andrew.cmu.edu Kristin Grasso Laurent.Garnier@irisa.fr Laurent Garnier lee_johnson@sympatico.ca Lee Johnson lill@netnitco.net Michelle Lill lisa@gordian.com Lisa Leone ljaques@diversify.com Larry Jaques logue@random.prestel.co.uk Mark Logue marina@netcom.ca Marina Waltz mforan@mindspring.com Michael Foran mikesea2@gte.net Mike Christy miket@mail.snip.net Mike Teixeira mlube@accessone.com Michael D. Lubrecht msoysal@mistik.express.net Mustafa Soysal MS57 mwalker@CYBERNEX.NET Michael Walker nomadic@mindspring.com Brandon Blatcher norbull@bulletin.ctol.net News Room pasquale@xs4all.nl pasQuale Krul Paul.N.Lee@Worldnet.att.net Paul N. Lee paulcho@w3com.com Paul Ho pawliger@Adobe.COM Marc Pawliger pd@world.std.com Peter Davis pkirch@execpc.com Phil Kirchmeier pmills@netresults-search.com Phillip Mills randy@fantasty.com Randy Hoppe reji@isn.net Reji Martin rickcasa@globalserve.net Ricky Casanova rlc@syncon.com Radonna Crandlemire rlyons@bigfoot.com Robert G. Lyons robert.lipman@nist.gov Robert Lipman roses@capecod.net Dolores Scaldini Klimm rssk@goulburn.net.au Roger Smith rufinus@e-math.ams.org J Rufinus savage@teleport.com Bob Savage sittonp@peak.org Pat Sitton susanod@dreamscape.com S. J. O'Donnell System_Support@Technologist.com Mick Nahee techind@ilcnet.com Matt Perry thwilson@nortel.ca Diane Wilson tkinc@iquest.net Mark Leslie treasur@slip.net Treasure Graphics triley@its.bldrdoc.gov Tim Riley tuscanypbl@earthlink.net Mary Long U.Vandermeer@unsw.edu.au Udo van der Meer WebSpawn@concentric.net Marc Russo wmertens@csrlink.net Bill Mertens wolfend@goodnet.com David Wolfenbarger xanthian@well.com Kent Paul Dolan zed@cjnetworks.com Ned Fleming zot@ampersand.com Mark Atwood Voted No ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- booda@datasync.com Martin H. Booda calabres@chass.utoronto.ca T.Calabrese chriseb@nortel.ca Chris Ebenezer cipher@mindspring.com David A. Howard deadlock@one.net DeadLock the Feral euthke@siam.muc.de Ekkehard Uthke hfung@lerami.lerctr.org Hank Fung hkantola@ling.helsinki.fi Heikki Kantola jeffery.hunt@bigfoot.com Jeffery D. Hunt marquez@pacbell.net Aaron marquez nick@cimio.co.uk Nick Waterman olav@viking.mv.com Olav Nieuwejaar patl@lcs.mit.edu Patrick J. LoPresti Paul.Bernhardt@m.cc.utah.edu Paul Bernhardt rick@bcm.tmc.edu Richard Miller robertb@iea.com Bob Blanchard stainles@bga.com Dwight Brown steiners@primenet.com Jason Steiner tlawson@amug.org Todd C. Lawson tonyb@null.net Tony Basoglu Abstained ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- guymacon@deltanet.com Guy Macon -- Rebecca Graham McQuitty